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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: asbrus on August 24, 2011, 06:03:24 PM
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Y0U MENTI0NED THAT PHIL HEATH IS 0N THEM AND D0RIAN WAS 0N THEM. S0 D0ES THAT MEAN ALL T0P PR0S D0 THEM T0 C0MBAT LETHARGY FR0M THE HIGH D0SES?
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Y0U MENTI0NED THAT PHIL HEATH IS 0N THEM AND D0RIAN WAS 0N THEM. S0 D0ES THAT MEAN ALL T0P PR0S D0 THEM T0 C0MBAT LETHARGY FR0M THE HIGH D0SES?
Probably painkillers .....they are the most abused substance on earth
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you try injecting 16grams of drugs and not wanting to take a little sunshine.i mean really.but they the pros should be carefull as they do drug test you know.
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Ass Bruise shut up please.
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I know a lot of guys that use gear, none are pro level but all use rec drugs. They seem to go hand in hand these days
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Probably painkillers .....they are the most abused substance on earth
WHAT W0ULD BE THE REAS0N F0R THEM? THEY D0N'T EVEN LIFT HEAVY.
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WHAT W0ULD BE THE REAS0N F0R THEM? THEY D0N'T EVEN LIFT HEAVY.
I would assume it has something to do with the numerous injections they do per day ? Just my thoughts.
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Gh15 said they use it cause they get lazy with so many hormones in the system. Makes sense, even only some test makes some guys real tired.
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I would assume it has something to do with the numerous injections they do per day ? Just my thoughts.
kaboooom we have a winner.
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WHAT W0ULD BE THE REAS0N F0R THEM? THEY D0N'T EVEN LIFT HEAVY.
years of moving heavy weight before they got lazy. you cant paint them all with one brush. a lot of guys out there pushing weight their joints and tendons arent meant to handle. years of that will take an accumulative effect.
tears and nagging injuries abound. think of how many pros suffer mild to serious tears all the time. let alone the joint injuries. fuck even i'e had two minor tears.
plus when your running compounds like tren at really high doses insomnia is a bitch. take a perc to sleep. then maybe one before you train cause your elbows a little sore. then a perc doesnt cut the pain like it used to. maybe half an oxy will help...next thing you know your sitting at home snorting 80's cause you cant stop cause your body is in MORE pain now than ever cause coming off is a bitch .its a fucking slippery slope dude.
edit: it isnt the steroids that is fucking these guys organs up. its the painkillers. the tylenol, percocet, oxycotin etc. and the diuretics. years of abuse. sad.
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Btw, Cocaine is a pretty popular drug as well. Fights the lethargy. Gh15 has mentioned it before, however, he has also said ,NUMEROUS times, that narcotics are NOT an area that he likes to go into. It's just something he doesn't like to talk about it. I can respect that.
Fact of the matter is this ... you can't imagine ( nor can I, presently ) how much shit these guys are on day to day, week to week, etc. To have so much shit running through your body ... well, it almost requires the need for some " outside help ". I don't even know how a guy like Jay Cutler can even function day to day. Have met him quite a few times and I got to say ... I've NEVER looked into another person's eyes and seen NOTHING there. Just ... blank. It was like looking into the eyes of a doll or something. I kid you not. Look at some of pics. You'll see what I mean. I kinda feel sorry for these guys. Just a little, anyways. :/
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Gh15 said they use it cause they get lazy with so many hormones in the system. Makes sense, even only some test makes some guys real tired.
! very good
i dont liek talking about this subject,, but it is more comon than yuo think,, i always bring marcus hailey as example ,, he is nothing right? not even top pro ,, no one even believed he would turn pro in the end of the 90s ,, he had no upper pec flat as puncakes,, stil he turned profesional and actualy got some decent placing and posing prices lol ,,
in any case,, the partys marcus hailey did of cocaine ....for the legands my friends,, for the legands,,
let me tell you something with out conection to lifting persay just in regard to life,, try to follow wht im saying
when you have someone willing to get his hands into cocaine,, crystal meth ,, pain killers,, etc...thsoe fellas dont even see hormones as drugs,, hormones are not drugs,, they use so much hormones that your face will get pale if you knew how much they swim in hormones,, for many many years,,
and vise versa!
when you have someone willing to get to the next level no matter what...and swim in hormones,, the distance from pain killers and narcotics is quite short,, when you get high doses of hormones and specific hormones in particular...and when you do it for so long none stop ...you become one lazy son of a bitch ,, you are very letargic ,, you are very slow,, you are a walking needle ...now you see philsulina walking to all of those guest posing,, to all around americnaa and places around the world,, keepign all muscle on ,, keeping energized and happy dandy ,, all i can say is this
LOOK INTO THE EYES ,, everything is in the eyes,, and its not philsulina in particular it is many many from all modern day bodybuild
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I know a lot of guys that use gear, none are pro level but all use rec drugs. They seem to go hand in hand these days
i know alot of bodybuilders also. some on the national level and i don't know of one that uses rec drugs.
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i know alot of bodybuilders also. some on the national level and i don't know of one that uses rec drugs.
Dream on..
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i dont liek talking about this subject,, but it is more comon than yuo think,, i always bring marcus hailey as example ,, he is nothing right? not even top pro ,, no one even believed he would turn pro in the end of the 90s ,, he had no upper pec flat as puncakes,, stil he turned profesional and actualy got some decent placing and posing prices lol ,,
in any case,, the partys marcus hailey did of cocaine ....for the legands my friends,, for the legands,,
let me tell you something with out conection to lifting persay just in regard to life,, try to follow wht im saying
when you have someone willing to get his hands into cocaine,, crystal meth ,, pain killers,, etc...thsoe fellas dont even see hormones as drugs,, hormones are not drugs,, they use so much hormones that your face will get pale if you knew how much they swim in hormones,, for many many years,,
and vise versa!
when you have someone willing to get to the next level no matter what...and swim in hormones,, the distance from pain killers and narcotics is quite short,, when you get high doses of hormones and specific hormones in particular...and when you do it for so long none stop ...you become one lazy son of a bitch ,, you are very letargic ,, you are very slow,, you are a walking needle ...now you see philsulina walking to all of those guest posing,, to all around americnaa and places around the world,, keepign all muscle on ,, keeping energized and happy dandy ,, all i can say is this
LOOK INTO THE EYES ,, everything is in the eyes,, and its not philsulina in particular it is many many from all modern day bodybuild
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I'VE SEEN VIDS 0F HIM WHERE HE TALKS AND M0VES HIS HEAD T0 THE SIDE AND STARTS SNIFFING BRIEFLY. IS THIS FR0M C0CAIN USE?
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This is not something new, seems like narcotics and bbing in general go hand in hand these days, damn i remember old school bbers telling me platz use to rack lines of cocaine before training. Makes sense he was an animal.
Good thing gh15 doesnt go into to much detail on the whole narc ordeal, and tends to discourage "pupils" from going that route, however it is an evident problem when you have bbers, gym rats etc who are open and honest about their narcotics use however see it as taboo to mention their hormone usage.
GH15 mentions abuse of insulin destroyed bodybuilding, was also narcotics that did aswell. Most of the steroid dealers mixed drugs with steroids and brought the heat down hard on bbing in general. The days of quality dosed quality product gear is long and far of what it use to be. People just underdosing shit, selling test as deca etc. Very very few dealers are legit, usually if you dont find one that mixes gear with drugs you are good to go.
Its the narc dealers who sell fake xtc pills, cut cocaine, speed etc...then think they can do the same with gear that has fucked it for potential wannabe bbers.
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i know alot of bodybuilders also. some on the national level and i don't know of one that uses rec drugs.
lol ,, americanos you mean? lol they neevr even admit to usage of homrones ,, it is alwys i got to 222.5lb 10% 5'6 by the poower of food and the once in a blue moon pro hormone pill ,, AMERICANOS??? FUCKIN AMERICANOS? you ask them to tell you this balonie? they dotn say shit about shit,, they are twisters
i tell you when you know it...i will
YOU KNOW YOUR BUD BUDS WERE ON NARCOTICS...WHEN YOUR BUD BUD AND NOTICE I SAY BUD BUD NOT FRIEND...WHEN HE COME TO GYM AND SUDDENLY IS 225...INSTED OF 255...SUDDENLY HE LOOK SMOOTHER....STILL ABUSING HIS MAMA AND PAPA BUT LOOK SMALLER BY LOTS ...THE ONLY THING WHO REMAIN IS THE GUT....AND THE GUT IS GROWING....THEN YOU START CONNECTING THE DOTS,, THEN YOU SEE ON HIS FACE BOOK THAT HE IS IN THE ER....AND NO ONE KNOW WHATS WRONG WITH HIM,, AND IF NOT IN FACE BOOK WORLD THEN THE RUMOR GO IN GYMNASIUM THAT THE FELLA HAS KIDNY FAILURE AND ON DIALASYS ,, THEN COME THE LIVER CANCER STORY FROM SOMEONE ....AND IS ON FROM THERE,,
THEN! YOU KNOW WHY ,,THEN YOU CONNECT THE DOTS BETWEEN HIS SUPERMAN TATTOOS,, AND HIS CRAZY SPORT MOTORCYCLE,, AND HIS 55 YEAR OLD MILK HE WAS TRAINNING (FUCKIG) AND THE CLUB YOU SEE HIM BOUCNY IN SELLING X.....AND THE BREAK OF THE DOOR STORY YOU HEARD EARLIER FEW YEARS BACK ,, AND THE STORIES ABOUT THE JAILS AND ABOUT THE FELLONIES,, THEN ALL THE DOTS ARE CONNECTED.....AND FINALY YOU KNOW THAT YOUR BUD BUD WAS ALL THIS TIME ON COMBO OF NARCOTICS AND HORMONES,,
BUT! THEN YOU ARE A 35 YEAR OLD GEEZER THAT WASTED ALL HIS 20S...WONDERING HOW COME HE DO NATIONALS AND YOU STUCK!
you want true,, you want hands on,,i give you hands on !
this is how it is with many many bodybuilder who get quite far in the amatuers and also profesional ,,
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I'VE SEEN VIDS 0F HIM WHERE HE TALKS AND M0VES HIS HEAD T0 THE SIDE AND STARTS SNIFFING BRIEFLY. IS THIS FR0M C0CAIN USE?
have no idea what video you talk about ,, but! marcus haily used narcotics,,and many other too,, any bodybuilder that you know and dont know...that had kidny and liver problems,, USED NARCOTICS! USED BOOZ!,, and uysualy use combo of all 3...booz ,, narcotics,, and hormones
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and that combo eventually leads to kidney failure, liver cancer and in worst cases.. death :-\
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yep,, this is usualy the final stage,, you dont expect it ,, it comes on a blue shiney day like sept 11,, everyone know that fella is not exacly what he was ,, but no one knows to what severity ,, and in americana .....they drop dead since many of them have no health insurance and cant get shit ,, so many times you see fellas in the gym on hormones stil! with body that is falling apart from within ,, and really its not like they are on a harsh cycle and feel shitty ,, it is that their kidny is not functioning they are on dialasis ,, and they go in and out from er...its not the regular gym rat feleling shit from high dose,, it is really sick fella who just later on drop dead,, and then everyone say ,,ohhhhh he was so young,, he was so healthy ,, bla blee bloo
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Ask Chris Cormier and many of the west coast Venice bbers.....
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years of moving heavy weight before they got lazy. you cant paint them all with one brush. a lot of guys out there pushing weight their joints and tendons arent meant to handle. years of that will take an accumulative effect.
tears and nagging injuries abound. think of how many pros suffer mild to serious tears all the time. let alone the joint injuries. fuck even i'e had two minor tears.
plus when your running compounds like tren at really high doses insomnia is a bitch. take a perc to sleep. then maybe one before you train cause your elbows a little sore. then a perc doesnt cut the pain like it used to. maybe half an oxy will help...next thing you know your sitting at home snorting 80's cause you cant stop cause your body is in MORE pain now than ever cause coming off is a bitch .its a fucking slippery slope dude.
edit: it isnt the steroids that is fucking these guys organs up. its the painkillers. the tylenol, percocet, oxycotin etc. and the diuretics. years of abuse. sad.
"edit: it isnt the steroids that is fucking these guys organs up. its the painkillers. the tylenol, percocet, oxycotin etc. and the diuretics. years of abuse. sad."...1000% Correct !!
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years of moving heavy weight before they got lazy. you cant paint them all with one brush. a lot of guys out there pushing weight their joints and tendons arent meant to handle. years of that will take an accumulative effect.
tears and nagging injuries abound. think of how many pros suffer mild to serious tears all the time. let alone the joint injuries. fuck even i'e had two minor tears.
plus when your running compounds like tren at really high doses insomnia is a bitch. take a perc to sleep. then maybe one before you train cause your elbows a little sore. then a perc doesnt cut the pain like it used to. maybe half an oxy will help...next thing you know your sitting at home snorting 80's cause you cant stop cause your body is in MORE pain now than ever cause coming off is a bitch .its a fucking slippery slope dude.
edit: it isnt the steroids that is fucking these guys organs up. its the painkillers. the tylenol, percocet, oxycotin etc. and the diuretics. years of abuse. sad.
I GET THE LAZY PART BUT I D0N'T SEE H0W BENCHING Y0UR 0WN B0DY WEIGHT F0R REPS CAN LEAD T0 INJURIES. M0ST PR0S I SEE HARDLY D0 HEAVY WEIGHT IN PR0P0RTI0N T0 THEIR WEIGHT.
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lol ,, americanos you mean? lol they neevr even admit to usage of homrones ,, it is alwys i got to 222.5lb 10% 5'6 by the poower of food and the once in a blue moon pro hormone pill ,, AMERICANOS??? FUCKIN AMERICANOS? you ask them to tell you this balonie? they dotn say shit about shit,, they are twisters
i tell you when you know it...i will
YOU KNOW YOUR BUD BUDS WERE ON NARCOTICS...WHEN YOUR BUD BUD AND NOTICE I SAY BUD BUD NOT FRIEND...WHEN HE COME TO GYM AND SUDDENLY IS 225...INSTED OF 255...SUDDENLY HE LOOK SMOOTHER....STILL ABUSING HIS MAMA AND PAPA BUT LOOK SMALLER BY LOTS ...THE ONLY THING WHO REMAIN IS THE GUT....AND THE GUT IS GROWING....THEN YOU START CONNECTING THE DOTS,, THEN YOU SEE ON HIS FACE BOOK THAT HE IS IN THE ER....AND NO ONE KNOW WHATS WRONG WITH HIM,, AND IF NOT IN FACE BOOK WORLD THEN THE RUMOR GO IN GYMNASIUM THAT THE FELLA HAS KIDNY FAILURE AND ON DIALASYS ,, THEN COME THE LIVER CANCER STORY FROM SOMEONE ....AND IS ON FROM THERE,,
THEN! YOU KNOW WHY ,,THEN YOU CONNECT THE DOTS BETWEEN HIS SUPERMAN TATTOOS,, AND HIS CRAZY SPORT MOTORCYCLE,, AND HIS 55 YEAR OLD MILK HE WAS TRAINNING (FUCKIG) AND THE CLUB YOU SEE HIM BOUCNY IN SELLING X.....AND THE BREAK OF THE DOOR STORY YOU HEARD EARLIER FEW YEARS BACK ,, AND THE STORIES ABOUT THE JAILS AND ABOUT THE FELLONIES,, THEN ALL THE DOTS ARE CONNECTED.....AND FINALY YOU KNOW THAT YOUR BUD BUD WAS ALL THIS TIME ON COMBO OF NARCOTICS AND HORMONES,,
BUT! THEN YOU ARE A 35 YEAR OLD GEEZER THAT WASTED ALL HIS 20S...WONDERING HOW COME HE DO NATIONALS AND YOU STUCK!
you want true,, you want hands on,,i give you hands on !
this is how it is with many many bodybuilder who get quite far in the amatuers and also profesional ,,
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I CAN'T UNDERSTAND MOST OF YOUR STUPID RANT BUT I AM NOT LYING. ALOT OF MY FRIENDS ARE VERY OPEN ABOUT THERE DRUG USE. NONE OF THEM USED NARCOTICS. I SERIOUSLY TRIED TO THINK..I DID THINK OF ONE THAT SMOKED WEED THOUGH. I ALSO KNEW A WRESTLER THAT DID USE COKE. ABOUT THE 35YR OLD GEZZER COMMENT.. I AM 34 AND I BET THAT YOU ARE ALOT OLDER THAN ME..
ALSO I DID NOT GO TO THE NATIONALS BECAUSE I AM RAISING A FAMILY AND I HAVE A REAL J0B. I THOUGHT ABOUT COMPETING AGAIN BUT I WANTED TO ESTABLISH A CAREER..PAY ON MY HOUSE. INVEST..START A SMALL BUSINESS..LIKE MOST NORMAL PEOPLE DO
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ffs assbruise, sort ur keyboard out already. better yet, just stop posting your nonsense...
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Coke + Gear = A psychopath
Weed/Hash + Gear = An emotional wreck
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Coke + Gear = A psychopath
Weed/Hash + Gear = An emotional wreck
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One odd looking individual
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One odd looking individual
Shut the fuck up cunt.
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Shut the fuck up cunt.
You posted pics here of you dressed up as a woman, a few times. You are also very thin
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You posted pics here of you dressed up as a woman, a few times. You are also very thin
Irish curse - needle dick ;)
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Irish curse - needle dick ;)
Haha yep, you keep thinking that ;)
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I GET THE LAZY PART BUT I D0N'T SEE H0W BENCHING Y0UR 0WN B0DY WEIGHT F0R REPS CAN LEAD T0 INJURIES. M0ST PR0S I SEE HARDLY D0 HEAVY WEIGHT IN PR0P0RTI0N T0 THEIR WEIGHT.
strength does not = muscle size after a while... you will notice that in future friend,,
you can put 70 plates each side of hammer ....strength does not = muscle size!
trenbolona ace + equipona + testosterona ...in high doses with hgh in and out = MUSCLE SIZE! lean muscle size!
when you grow your muscle...you will most likley get stronger! if done right ,, but when you get stronger first it is not alwys = growth of muscle! ,, strength has to do a lot with tendoin and bone!,, again if you grow muscle by hormones you will also get stronger then you will know it becaue you will do easy lifts that before were super hard when you gain the extra 2 reps from your strong bones and tendoinds...now when you truly grow lean muscle you wil do extra 6 reps with out even thinking about it ...it will come easy,,big diff between strength as result of bones and tendoins to strength as result of lean muscle gain
example...you wil be stuck with 4 plates each side of hammer for long time you wil do 2-3 rep ,,,when bones really feel good you will do 4-5 reps,,your muscle wont grow,, you will get on new product and use it long enough and high enough dose! as a result of this you will get back to that machine thaty you stuck at 2-3 reps of 4 plates ...and you will suddenly do 10-11 reps ...and then move on to 5 plates each side and do 9-10 reps and it will feel easy to you..why? because your lean muscle truly grew as a result of the specific hormones you used the duration you been on them and the doses you took of them,,
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I CAN'T UNDERSTAND MOST OF YOUR STUPID RANT BUT I AM NOT LYING. ALOT OF MY FRIENDS ARE VERY OPEN ABOUT THERE DRUG USE. NONE OF THEM USED NARCOTICS. I SERIOUSLY TRIED TO THINK..I DID THINK OF ONE THAT SMOKED WEED THOUGH. I ALSO KNEW A WRESTLER THAT DID USE COKE. ABOUT THE 35YR OLD GEZZER COMMENT.. I AM 34 AND I BET THAT YOU ARE ALOT OLDER THAN ME..
ALSO I DID NOT GO TO THE NATIONALS BECAUSE I AM RAISING A FAMILY AND I HAVE A REAL J0B. I THOUGHT ABOUT COMPETING AGAIN BUT I WANTED TO ESTABLISH A CAREER..PAY ON MY HOUSE. INVEST..START A SMALL BUSINESS..LIKE MOST NORMAL PEOPLE DO
balonie,, i expect you to tell this to some morons on muscular develp ,,not to my pupils or me,, this is straight out balonie,, and you didnt do nationals because you WERE NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO MAKE A BREAK!,, YOU DECIDED TO PUT YOUR EFFORTS SOMEWHERE WHERE MAYBE YOULL GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT,, thats why you didnt do it!
everyone can do nationals if on the right hormones ,, legit hormones,, i will elaborate on it again in diff postings when i have more time
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strength does not = muscle size after a while... you will notice that in future friend,,
you can put 70 plates each side of hammer ....strength does not = muscle size!
trenbolona ace + equipona + testosterona ...in high doses with hgh in and out = MUSCLE SIZE! lean muscle size!
when you grow your muscle...you will most likley get stronger! if done right ,, but when you get stronger first it is not alwys = growth of muscle! ,, strength has to do a lot with tendoin and bone!,, again if you grow muscle by hormones you will also get stronger then you will know it becaue you will do easy lifts that before were super hard when you gain the extra 2 reps from your strong bones and tendoinds...now when you truly grow lean muscle you wil do extra 6 reps with out even thinking about it ...it will come easy,,big diff between strength as result of bones and tendoins to strength as result of lean muscle gain
example...you wil be stuck with 4 plates each side of hammer for long time you wil do 2-3 rep ,,,when bones really feel good you will do 4-5 reps,,your muscle wont grow,, you will get on new product and use it long enough and high enough dose! as a result of this you will get back to that machine thaty you stuck at 2-3 reps of 4 plates ...and you will suddenly do 10-11 reps ...and then move on to 5 plates each side and do 9-10 reps and it will feel easy to you..why? because your lean muscle truly grew as a result of the specific hormones you used the duration you been on them and the doses you took of them,,
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0KAY I GET THAT BUT THAT'S N0T WHAT I WAS TRYING T0 SAY. MY P0INT WAS I D0N'T SEE WHY PR0S W0ULD BE GETTING INJURED FR0M USING THE AM0UNT 0F WEIGHT THAT THEY'RE USING ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE DRUGS T0 PR0TECT THE J0INTS.
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they dont,, why would you lift heavier weights when you already maxed your lean muscle and all of us are maxed out...why using super heavy weights?? what keep us the same or little better is playing with insulina and gh ....trenbolona equipona etc etc the chimcal is what keep us going not the lifting heavier in gym ,,you think we can do the super heavy balonie ? lol we do it for video ,, but all the time? we work heavy yes but nothing that is super heavy when you say what the fuck ,, we wotk the muscle not the ego,,the hormones do the talk not the super heavy weight,, we lift heavy! not super heavy!...thesuper heavy fellas end up like branch ...with no competition to attentd,, he was doing and is doing ego lifting,, he doesnt develop a damn thing,,
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who cares if you don't understand lol, what's there to understand, and no your friends are not open about the drugs they do just like you aren't open about the steroids u do even on here
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Lots of P.I.P. potential in this thread.
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yep,, this is usualy the final stage,, you dont expect it ,, it comes on a blue shiney day like sept 11,, everyone know that fella is not exacly what he was ,, but no one knows to what severity ,, and in americana .....they drop dead since many of them have no health insurance and cant get shit ,, so many times you see fellas in the gym on hormones stil! with body that is falling apart from within ,, and really its not like they are on a harsh cycle and feel shitty ,, it is that their kidny is not functioning they are on dialasis ,, and they go in and out from er...its not the regular gym rat feleling shit from high dose,, it is really sick fella who just later on drop dead,, and then everyone say ,,ohhhhh he was so young,, he was so healthy ,, bla blee bloo
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This happened to a guy I knew. He turned blue and was DEAD before he hit the floor. Oh and he was training with a PARAMEDIC at the time.Could NOT be saved-DEAD.
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There are definitely some pro's showing all the signs of being on coke. Two names have been mentioned here already. Another clear cut example is the ifbb pro who pretended to be a cop :D
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Bodybuilders are drug addicts... Drug addicts do drug and it's not just limited to hormones, plain and simple.
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Bodybuilders are drug addicts... Drug addicts do drug and it's not just limited to hormones, plain and simple.
Agreed 20inch cankles has been destroyed lying about his druggie friends
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0KAY I GET THAT BUT THAT'S N0T WHAT I WAS TRYING T0 SAY. MY P0INT WAS I D0N'T SEE WHY PR0S W0ULD BE GETTING INJURED FR0M USING THE AM0UNT 0F WEIGHT THAT THEY'RE USING ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE DRUGS T0 PR0TECT THE J0INTS.
I recognise that fact that you are under the 1k mark, & only just got here, but when are you going to get it??
GH15 is a fucking prick, people on here expect him to be able to answer every-thing to do with pro BB'ing, jeeezy Creeeeeezy ???
& if I hear him say "trenbolona equipona" one more time, I am going to to puke fucking blood, out of my nose.
"Ya see, when ya talk these things though, they become a little clearer don't they??"
PT
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i have always suspected branch warren trains on meth
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Juice does NOT strengthen tendons and ligaments in proportion to muscle size. Do your homework.
This is why so many of the big guys get all the rips and tears. It is actually very common.
Think about it: Do tendons and ligaments hypertrophy overnight like muscle does on a strong cycle? Tendons and ligaments take YEARS to strengthen. So, if you are doing a strong cycle of "Testosterona + Equipona + GH" and you gain 20lbs. of muscle in a few months (or less) .... it's not too tough to figure out why people keep experiencing joint and tendon pain in the midst of a cycle, is it?
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who cares if you don't understand lol, what's there to understand, and no your friends are not open about the drugs they do just like you aren't open about the steroids u do even on here
LIKE I SAID BEF0RE, MY STATS ARE ATTAINABLE NATURALLY YET RARE SINCE I STARTED AT 155 LBS WHILE Y0U STARTED AT 110 LBS WHICH IS THE SIZE 0F A PETITE ASIAN FEMALE. N0T EVERY0NE THAT'S 5 11 180 IS 0N DRUGS. HARD T0 BELIEVE.
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LIKE I SAID BEF0RE, MY STATS ARE ATTAINABLE NATURALLY YET RARE SINCE I STARTED AT 155 LBS WHILE Y0U STARTED AT 110 LBS WHICH IS THE SIZE 0F A PETITE ASIAN FEMALE. N0T EVERY0NE THAT'S 5 11 180 IS 0N DRUGS. HARD T0 BELIEVE.
It's not rare! You are nothing special, when are you going to comprehend that?
Go to any gym and you'll find a handful of blacks that have better genetics and build than you.
You are nothing special, drugs or no drugs, and no legs, and what seems like, from your pics taken from your bf, losing hair and going bald.
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It's not rare! You are nothing special, when are you going to comprehend that?
Go to any gym and you'll find a handful of blacks that have better genetics and build than you.
You are nothing special, drugs or no drugs, and no legs, and what seems like, from your pics taken from your bf, losing hair and going bald.
LMA0. Y0U ARE SUCH A FUCKIN TR0LL Y0U CAN'T EVEN SEE IT 0R REMEMBER Y0UR P0STS. THE SAME GUY WH0'S TELLING ME I'M N0THING SPECIAL AND YET IN Y0UR P0ST A C0UPLE WEEKS AG0 Y0U CLAIMED IF I WAS NATURAL THEN I HAVE BETTER GENETICS THAN R0NNIE C0LEMAN AND YET I'M N0THING SPECIAL HUH. KEEP THE HATE G0ING.
AND MY THIGH MEASUREMENTS ARE 24.5-25 INCHES. HARDLY WEAK F0R A NATURAL AT MY WEIGHT. YAH I SUCK S0 MUCH AND YET GET ACCUSED 0F DRUG USE BY 99 PERCENT 0F THIS B0ARD.
THAT'S MY HAIRLINE Y0U DUMBFUCK. I HAVE A FULL SET 0F HAIR. N0 MALE IN MY FAMILY G0ES BALD EVEN IN THEIR 70'S.
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IT ACTUALLY IS. I'VE BEEN T0 MANY GYMS IN S0UTHERN CALIF0RNIA AND I D0N'T SEE A HANDFUL 0F NATURALS WALKING AR0UND 5 11 180 DRUG FREE INCLUDING BLACKS. YUP Y0U PULLED THAT 0NE RIGHT 0F Y0UR ASS. AND MY THIGH MEASUREMENTS ARE 24.5-25 INCHES. HARDLY WEAK F0R A NATURAL AT MY WEIGHT. YAH I SUCK S0 MUCH AND YET GET ACCUSED 0F DRUG USE BY 99 PERCENT 0F THIS B0ARD. I HAVE N0 WIDTH T00. MY PHYSIQUE IS H0RREND0USE IN ALL ASPECTS.
THAT'S MY HAIRLINE Y0U DUMBFUCK. I HAVE A FULL SET 0F HAIR. N0 MALE IN MY FAMILY G0ES BALD EVEN IN THEIR 70'S.
One thing you did get right your physique is "horrendous!"
Face it, you suck, nothing special, blacks are superior to your build! Lol. You have NO legs, the pics prove it.
What is so hard to understand? Your dick buddies probably praise you and suck you off day and night telling how great you look, but get it through your thick balding head.
YOU are NOTHING SPECIAL!! Move along and please die! You won't be missed!
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You're are funny!! I NEVER said you had good genetics or said you are better than Ronnie Coleman! You have reading comprehension problems, probably due to all the cum you've taken from your BF.
Please find my posts that I said that!!
I'm waiting.... You are such a stupid fuck! It's too easy!
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You're are funny!! I NEVER said you had good genetics or said you are better than Ronnie Coleman! You have reading comprehension problems, probably due to all the cum you've taken from your BF.
Please find my posts that I said that!!
I'm waiting.... You are such a stupid fuck! It's too easy!
ACCUSATI0NS BY Y0U 0F ME TAKING H0RM0NES. http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=389697.msg5477955#msg5477955
THE P0ST IS PRETTY SELF EXPLANAT0RY. Y0U'RE CLAIMING THAT MY STATS AND BUILD ARE N0T ATTAINABLE NATURALLY AND YET HERE RIGHT N0W Y0U BASH MY PHYSIQUE AS H0RREND0US DRUG 0R DRUG FREE. YET I'M DRUG FREE, S0 I CAN'T SUCK THAT BAD IF 99 PERCENT 0F THE B0ARD IS ACCUSING ME 0F JUICING. THIS IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE 0F A TR0LL. HE SAYS 0NE THING IN AN0THER P0ST AND THEN C0NTRADICTS HIMSELF IN AN0THER. IMPLYING IF I AM NATURAL THEN I MUST HAVE BETTER GENETICS THAN C0LEMAN AND N0 FR0M THE PREVI0US P0STS IN THE THREAD Y0U'RE N0T BEING SARCASTIC AS Y0UR ACCUSATI0NS T0WARDS ME USING H0RM0NES ARE AS REAL AS CAN BE. C0NSIDER Y0URSELF 0WNED TR0LL. ;)
Quote from: KevinP85 on July 25, 2011, 11:02:19 PM
He can't, he spent all his money on hormones...
Quote from: KevinP85 on July 26, 2011, 12:13:50 AM
Really?? I started at 6 foot, 170/175 without ever touching a weight either....
The only thing you can't get through your skull besides GH15's cock out of your mouth is how delusional you are.
You must have better genetics than Ronnie Coleman
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One thing you did get right your physique is "horrendous!"
Face it, you suck, nothing special, blacks are superior to your build! Lol. You have NO legs, the pics prove it.
What is so hard to understand? Your dick buddies probably praise you and suck you off day and night telling how great you look, but get it through your thick balding head.
YOU are NOTHING SPECIAL!! Move along and please die! You won't be missed!
0NE W0RD. PMS
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AssBrush - stop melting down like a bitch - you are nothing special and talk a load of shit now fuck off out of here and get a paper delivery run so you can afford a new key board - you silly cock smoker
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Hahahaha!!! Funny thing is, this douche owned himself.
Again, clearly you cannot read!!
You are nothing special, and what I'm inputting there is "sarcasm," since you imply that you are so great, you must be better than Ronnie.
Btw, I've always stated you were in drugs, what's your point, communist?
Damn, your dumb! Self ownage. ::)
Probably so many needles and cum you even forgot your age and what you're copying and pasting lol.
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The second asbrus chose that username it was all over
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Hahahaha!!! Funny thing is, this douche owned himself.
Again, clearly you cannot read!!
You are nothing special, and what I'm inputting there is "sarcasm," since you imply that you are so great, you must be better than Ronnie.
Btw, I've always stated you were in drugs, what's your point, communist?
Damn, your dumb! Self ownage. ::)
Probably so many needles and cum you even forgot your age and what you're copying and pasting lol.
Y0U'VE MADE S0 MANY C0NTRADICTI0NS ALREADY IN Y0UR P0STS T0WARDS ME, ACCUSATI0NS 0F ME BEING 0N DRUGS AND THEN ME BEING 0FF DRUGS AND N0THING SPECIAL PAST AND PRESENT THAT I LAUGH EVERY TIME I SEE THEM. I L0VE IT. KEEP IT UP. SEXUAL C0NN0TATI0NS. IT'S GREAT T0 SEE Y0U FINALLY BREAK D0WN.
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Insomnia is a big problem. GHB is probably the most abused drug. nubain and ghb and any type of benzodiazapam is used very frequently.
the list goes like this
1.GHB-for sleep
2.nubain for pain and sleep not as addicitve as most pain killers
3. benzos- these include valium, ativan, klonopin and xanax
4. marijauna- to eat and sleep
5. cocaine mainly used just to party.
cocaine makes one loose muscle so gh15 is wrong not very many pros use cocaine.
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5. cocaine mainly used just to party.
cocaine makes one loose muscle so gh15 is wrong not very many pross use cocaine.
Even with the amount of hormones floating around in there bodies ? I've known Pro's and "former' pro's that use meth, speed , coke and anything they can get there hands on to get off there faces - go partying for days on end on meth yet still turn up to train then back out partying again - they dont visualy lose any size and there skin is like tissue paper so ultra lean - on the amount of hormones they are on they can get away with alot more.
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WHAT'S THE P0INT IN USING ALL THESE DRUGS. 0NE CAN PARTY HARD WITH0UT C0CAINE.
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WHATS THE THE P0INT OF DOING STEROIDS ONE CAN LOOK GOOD WITH0UT HUGE MUSCLES lol
dude you are 13 aren't you, you are huge for 13 bro i gotta give it to u
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WHATS THE THE P0INT OF DOING STEROIDS ONE CAN LOOK GOOD WITH0UT HUGE MUSCLES lol
dude you are 13 aren't you, you are huge for 13 bro i gotta give it to u
EXACTLY THERE IS N0 P0INT IN D0ING R0IDS UNLESS Y0U'RE G0ING T0 C0MPETE. 0R C0CAINE. Y0U CAN MAX 0UT NATURALLY LIKE I DID AND L00K HUGE C0MPARED T0 THE GENERAL P0PULATI0N AND C0CAINE IS AN ADDICTIVE DRUG THAT KILLS. HAVE A BRAIN.
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Insomnia is a big problem. GHB is probably the most abused drug. nubain and ghb and any type of benzodiazapam is used very frequently.
the list goes like this
1.GHB-for sleep
2.nubain for pain and sleep not as addicitve as most pain killers
3. benzos- these include valium, ativan, klonopin and xanax
4. marijauna- to eat and sleep
5. cocaine mainly used just to party.
cocaine makes one loose muscle so gh15 is wrong not very many pross use cocaine.
long ago i saw lee priest quoted in a book on performance enhancing drugs talking about GHB and how its one of the hardest drugs to come off. i know a fair few competitors that use it
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balonie,, i expect you to tell this to some morons on muscular develp ,,not to my pupils or me,, this is straight out balonie,, and you didnt do nationals because you WERE NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO MAKE A BREAK!,, YOU DECIDED TO PUT YOUR EFFORTS SOMEWHERE WHERE MAYBE YOULL GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT,, thats why you didnt do it!
everyone can do nationals if on the right hormones ,, legit hormones,, i will elaborate on it again in diff postings when i have more time
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you just contradicted yourself. anyone can do the nationals but yet i wasn't go enough? i don't think so. i believe that with the right combo of things i could have placed in the top 10. but i decided not to put all my eggs in one basket like most bbers do chasing a dream..whatever i am not debating that i am simply saying that i have friends that have competed done well and DO NOT USE REC DRUGS...i am sure ALOT of bbers do but I don't personally know any
i do agree about the marcus haley thing though. def on rec drugs. that is well known. he also told my buddy he runs 5g of test a week..i have said that before and i thought it was a stupid amount considering his size
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EXACTLY THERE IS N0 P0INT IN D0ING R0IDS UNLESS Y0U'RE G0ING T0 C0MPETE. 0R C0CAINE. Y0U CAN MAX 0UT NATURALLY LIKE I DID AND L00K HUGE C0MPARED T0 THE GENERAL P0PULATI0N AND C0CAINE IS AN ADDICTIVE DRUG THAT KILLS. HAVE A BRAIN.
I'M SO GLAD Y0O INF0RMED ME THAT I CAN PARTY WITH0UT C0CAINE CAN I SUBSCRIBE TO Y0UR NEWSLETTER
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WHAT'S THE P0INT IN USING ALL THESE DRUGS. 0NE CAN PARTY HARD WITH0UT C0CAINE.
the point is that you fellas listen to morons here who talk balonie,, whitewidow add bite of peaces from his OWN expericne with narcotics,, im telling you how its done as simple as that!
again for the trillion times not only for you but for everyone in the thunderdome,,
COCAINE IS USED TO GET RIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPED ,, IT IS USED TO GET THE SUCK ON PHENOMENON WHILE ON ALL YOU CAN EAT HORMONE BUFFET,, AS I SAID BEFORE....YOU CAN BE VERY LEAN ON HORMONES AND FOOD....BUT! YOU WILL ALWAYS HOLD THIS STUPID WATER THAT WILL BLURR LINES TO SOME DEGREE....WHILE THE NATURAL THAT IS 160LB WONT HAVE THIS WATER...
CACAINE CHIZEL YOU AND SO IS CRYSTAL METH .....AND WHILE ON HORMONES IN MEGA DOSE WITH ALL YOU CAN EAT BUFFET OF FOOD AND HORMONES....YOU WILL LOOK EXACTLY LIKE MR TRUE NATURAL MIDSECTION ONLY 60 LB BIGGER....
you get the idea? the fellas that only work with aas....are playing with numbes that are bigger than the true naturals by 7 to 12 kilogams ...around there
the fellas who use everything.....and by everything i mean narcotics too,, hgh inuslina aas ...they get to numbers of 230lb 250 lb 260 lb and very lean and show condition of the true natural who is sitting still 160....condition of abdominals...lower back mid back etc....
the reason frank zane was 190lb was because! he did it with only aas... the reason marcus haily go 250...is because he is drug addict period,,he just woudnt cut it to the pro level with out it ,,not even top amatuer
you fellas need to get it in your head,, bodybuild include narcotics sadly ,, it lets you eat and eat and eat and take insulina and still look chizeled,, now gh is much better....but guess what.....gh and insulina and all the peptide and all the aas,, they all make you retain water especialy with the calories and type of calories we put in but with any calories it would be this way even with clean diet ,, what make some bodybuild chizeled all year round is the narcotics they use inaddition to the hormones! it is not! the way i recomend to do bodybuild,,
inaddition all narcotics used to fight lethargy and lethargy is the second name of a bodybuilder
jason letargy cutler
kai letargy green
philsulina letargy heath
frank letargy mgrath i dont even knwo why i put him here just came to my mind the name is memorable
etc etc etc
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Insomnia is a big problem. GHB is probably the most abused drug. nubain and ghb and any type of benzodiazapam is used very frequently.
the list goes like this
1.GHB-for sleep
2.nubain for pain and sleep not as addicitve as most pain killers
3. benzos- these include valium, ativan, klonopin and xanax
4. marijauna- to eat and sleep
5. cocaine mainly used just to party.
cocaine makes one loose muscle so gh15 is wrong not very many pross use cocaine.
bad thign to use any of them ,, but even worse to use them and get no where in bodybuild...i feel very bad to the ones who used it and placed 16th in nationals,, or fellas who never done competitions and used it or fellas who went on stage and used it because they were boucing in clubs,,
this cult is build from bunch of fellons! this is the sad thing
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Even with the amount of hormones floating around in there bodies ? I've known Pro's and "former' pro's that use meth, speed , coke and anything they can get there hands on to get off there faces - go partying for days on end on meth yet still turn up to train then back out partying again - they dont visualy lose any size and there skin is like tissue paper so ultra lean - on the amount of hormones they are on they can get away with alot more.
VERY GOOD POSTING
look at the typical 2 year college boy from middle tenesse americana who use crystal meth and drink and lift some weights with some anadrol or oxandrolone ,, look what he look like...ask them to walk with no shirt....they are sucked in ,, they ae all 165-190lb but they are sucked in ,,paper thin skin with out doign a damn thing on fries coke and fied balonie,, no hgh by the way ....just open your eyes to circa 2002-2003 ,,all of the know it all on this boading back then did it ,, trust me when you see crystal meth fella on hormones you know it!
it also lead to early death ,, and lots of health problems ,, they always break ,, their bodys never hold ,, few months maybe a year or 2 and boom the end comes
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you just contradicted yourself. anyone can do the nationals but yet i wasn't go enough? i don't think so. i believe that with the right combo of things i could have placed in the top 10. but i decided not to put all my eggs in one basket like most bbers do chasing a dream..whatever i am not debating that i am simply saying that i have friends that have competed done well and DO NOT USE REC DRUGS...i am sure ALOT of bbers do but I don't personally know any
i do agree about the marcus haley thing though. def on rec drugs. that is well known. he also told my buddy he runs 5g of test a week..i have said that before and i thought it was a stupid amount considering his size
there is no contradition ,, the facti purpsly write in bad way ,, the fact i purposly write in bad grammer is not preventing you from read it few times,,
what i meant is! you wee not good enough to WIN nationals or place top 3 where damage can be done and can turn pro...so you said fuck it i move on in a way ,, move on in a way because bodybuild never move on ,,,NEVER...no bodybuild move on ,, sometimes due to health they have to but many just prefer to die on hormones than to quit
i didnt say all bodybuild do narcotics,, but many do ,, i have withnessed fellas who to your eyes didnt even admit they used homones! walking around 200lb of chizeled veiny cock looking physiqe with seperation and clear lines and great frame that used both narcotics and hormones yet didnt admit to none,, on their face books there most likley be saying such as...
im a broken soul ....you can get my body but not my heart...ya know the americana balonie of twisters and liars,, they never admit to shit but LIE ALL THE DAMN TIME
my greatness is my ability to open the eyes of the cult and make it look into the mirror,, this is how i got to the top of the mountain among so many on so many boarrdings and aroudn the world,,, simply stating the truth ,,
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long ago i saw lee priest quoted in a book on performance enhancing drugs talking about GHB and how its one of the hardest drugs to come off. i know a fair few competitors that use it
liar priest used them all ,, ALL
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liar priest used them all ,, ALL
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S0 STER0IDS AL0NE CAN 0NLY ADD 20 LBS 0F MUSCLE MAX?
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S0 STER0IDS AL0NE CAN 0NLY ADD 20 LBS 0F MUSCLE MAX?
lets say you are ummmmmmmmmmm 170lb naturaly on stage 5'10...this is VERY VERY GOOD NATURAL!,,
you add aas...and you are sick in the head really like bodybuilding and do it all the time....
you will end up about 20-30lb bigger from aas only
that means you will compete 195lb 5'10 if only used anabolic steroids,, maybe 200lb if really in your early 200s...
those are the best case scenarios by the way ,, most average fellas only gain 15-20lb on a true natural ,, im talking LEAN LEAN MUSCLE TISSUE
now! when you add hgh to aas....then something happen....you sundenly can break the 200lb mark on stage
and when you add hgh and insulina....you finaly can be the mess you see today at 240 250 260 270etc...
a 220lb 5'10 fella on stage is always on hgh insulina and aas,, ALWAYS
that means! any bodybuild who you ever seen on stage at 5'10 220 lb was on all 3 ! and that means any bodybuild you saw 5'8 205-210lb on stage .....was on all 3 ! ,, and that means every 5'6 bodybuild who ever was 190-195lb on stage was on all 3! and the list go on and on and on
7lb per inch up or down
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Y0U'VE MADE S0 MANY C0NTRADICTI0NS ALREADY IN Y0UR P0STS T0WARDS ME, ACCUSATI0NS 0F ME BEING 0N DRUGS AND THEN ME BEING 0FF DRUGS AND N0THING SPECIAL PAST AND PRESENT THAT I LAUGH EVERY TIME I SEE THEM. I L0VE IT. KEEP IT UP. SEXUAL C0NN0TATI0NS. IT'S GREAT T0 SEE Y0U FINALLY BREAK D0WN.
I'm still waiting to see what contradictions?? Let me put it in simple english:
1st I NEVER said you were ever natural, always stated you are on DRUGS
2nd I NEVER said you had good genetics, I did, however, say you aren't anything special, something we agree on.
3rd where is the owning, you fucking imbecile that CANNOT comprehend simple english.
4th YOU keep running around dodging questions being asked and reply with the same response each and every time
Come to think about it, as you can tell NO ONE here likes you. YOU are DELUSSIONAL, not FUNNY, STUPID, and the sad thing is, you think you know everything. Im done with you, dumbass.
BTW, Im never the one to brag, but for the members that have seen me, or my pics, I wipe the floor with you on EVERYTHING. No hate here! ;)
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BTW, Im never the one to brag, but for the members that have seen me, or my pics, I wipe the floor with you on EVERYTHING No hate here! ;)
YAH I'M TERRIBLE. 99 PERCENT 0F THIS B0ARD ACCUSES ME 0F TAKING DRUGS WHEN I'M N0T EVEN 0N CREATINE. IT MUST BE BECAUSE I SUCK S0 MUCH. HAHA 0KAY SURE Y0U D0. ::) WHAT EVER MAKES Y0U SLEEP BETTER AT NIGHT INSECURE LITTLE BITCH. ;D
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liar priest used them all ,, ALL
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Gh15,,, if someone could only use one drug for cutting what would it be? Primo, Anavar, Clen, T3, ???
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Y0U SAY I SUCK AND YET Y0U CLAIM I'M 0N DRUGS WHEN I'M N0T. HAHA 0KAY. WHAT EVER MAKES Y0U SLEEP BETTER AT NIGHT INSECURE LITTLE BITCH. ;D
You do SUCK and you're on DRUGS. Why is that hard to understand, and my physique natural or not natural still wipe the floor with yours, so I am sleeping okay, thanks for your concern. ;)
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lets say you are ummmmmmmmmmm 170lb naturaly on stage 5'10...this is VERY VERY GOOD NATURAL!,,
you add aas...and you are sick in the head really like bodybuilding and do it all the time....
you will end up about 20-30lb bigger from aas only
that means you will compete 195lb 5'10 if only used anabolic steroids,, maybe 200lb if really in your early 200s...
those are the best case scenarios by the way ,, most average fellas only gain 15-20lb on a true natural ,, im talking LEAN LEAN MUSCLE TISSUE
now! when you add hgh to aas....then something happen....you sundenly can break the 200lb mark on stage
and when you add hgh and insulina....you finaly can be the mess you see today at 240 250 260 270etc...
a 220lb 5'10 fella on stage is always on hgh insulina and aas,, ALWAYS
that means! any bodybuild who you ever seen on stage at 5'10 220 lb was on all 3 ! and that means any bodybuild you saw 5'8 205-210lb on stage .....was on all 3 ! ,, and that means every 5'6 bodybuild who ever was 190-195lb on stage was on all 3! and the list go on and on and on
7lb per inch up or down
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this is the undisputable truth and there is absolutely no denying it. for proof all one has to do is look at the weights of the top olympia competitors from the different eras. the steroid era, the steroid and gh era, and the modern day steroid gh and insulin era. the bodyweights of the competitors fall perfectly in line with those quoted by gh15 and if anyone thinks different they are just plain ignorant.
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lets say you are ummmmmmmmmmm 170lb naturaly on stage 5'10...this is VERY VERY GOOD NATURAL!,,
you add aas...and you are sick in the head really like bodybuilding and do it all the time....
you will end up about 20-30lb bigger from aas only
that means you will compete 195lb 5'10 if only used anabolic steroids,, maybe 200lb if really in your early 200s...
those are the best case scenarios by the way ,, most average fellas only gain 15-20lb on a true natural ,, im talking LEAN LEAN MUSCLE TISSUE
now! when you add hgh to aas....then something happen....you sundenly can break the 200lb mark on stage
and when you add hgh and insulina....you finaly can be the mess you see today at 240 250 260 270etc...
a 220lb 5'10 fella on stage is always on hgh insulina and aas,, ALWAYS
that means! any bodybuild who you ever seen on stage at 5'10 220 lb was on all 3 ! and that means any bodybuild you saw 5'8 205-210lb on stage .....was on all 3 ! ,, and that means every 5'6 bodybuild who ever was 190-195lb on stage was on all 3! and the list go on and on and on
7lb per inch up or down
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S0 IF I'M 5 11 180 AT 6 PERCENT. H0W MUCH WILL I BE 0N STAGE IF I WANTED T0 C0MPETE WITH0UT DRUGS? CAN I BE AR0UND 177?
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S0 IF I'M 5 11 180 AT 6 PERCENT. H0W MUCH WILL I BE 0N STAGE IF I WANTED T0 C0MPETE WITH0UT DRUGS? CAN I BE AR0UND 177?
try 160-165 dude.
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try 160-165 dude.
EACH PERCENT 0F B0DY FAT IS 2 LBS. EXPLAIN T0 ME WHERE THE 20 LB DR0P W0ULD C0ME FR0M AFTER GETTING D0WN 1 PERCENT FR0M 6- 5?
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and you're on DRUGS.
CAN'T HAVE IT B0TH WAYS. EITHER I SUCK AND AM 0N THE DRUGS 0R I'M NATURAL AND GET ACCUSED 0F TAKING DRUGS MAKING ME THE ENVY 0F THIS B0ARD FR0M ATTENTI0N WH0RES LIKE Y0U. I CAN JUST SEE Y0U RAGING RIGHT N0W. EVERYTIME I P0ST KEVIN C0MES IN AND STARTS PANTING LIKE THE GIRL WH0'S N0T GETTING ANY ATTENTI0N AT THE CLUB. THE B0ARD WILL STILL ACCUSE ME 0F DRUGS. 100 % NATURAL MINUS THE CREATINE. DEAL WITH IT. :)
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EACH PERCENT 0F B0DY FAT IS 2 LBS. EXPLAIN T0 ME WHERE THE 20 LB DR0P W0ULD C0ME FR0M AFTER GETTING D0WN 1 PERCENT FR0M 6- 5?
your not 180 at 6% naturally, but even if you were, youd have to drop 1-1.5% bodyfat to get on stage, and being a natural losing those last few lbs of fat will require losing muscle as well, so your looking at about 6-7 lbs of fat and muscle loss easily, if your truly 6%, add to that at least about 10lbs of water loss in order to get dry.. that puts you at about 165 on stage. thats extremely impressve for a natural and you would look phenomenal on stage.
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your not 180 at 6% naturally, but even if you were, youd have to drop 1-1.5% bodyfat to get on stage, and being a natural losing those last few lbs of fat will require losing muscle as well, so your looking at about 6-7 lbs of fat and muscle loss easily, if your truly 6%, add to that at least about 10lbs of water loss in order to get dry.. that puts you at about 165 on stage. thats extremely impressve for a natural and you would look phenomenal on stage.
N0 I AM. I HAVEN'T TAKEN ANYTHING. I MEASURED MYSELF 0N THE MACHINE AND CAME 0UT 4 PERCENT AND AT 5 PERCENT 0N CALIPERS. BUT EACH PERCENT 0F FAT IS 2 LBS AND N0T 6. S0 2 LBS 0F FAT PLUS 2-3 LBS 0F MUSCLE L0SS. I H0NESTLY CAN'T L0SE 10 LBS 0F WATER.
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N0 I AM. I HAVEN'T TAKEN ANYTHING. I MEASURED MYSELF 0N THE MACHINE AND CAME 0UT 4 PERCENT AND AT 5 PERCENT 0N CALIPERS. BUT EACH PERCENT 0F FAT IS 2 LBS AND N0T 6. S0 2 LBS 0F FAT PLUS 2-3 LBS 0F MUSCLE L0SS. I H0NESTLY CAN'T L0SE 10 LBS 0F WATER.
hae you posted a picture of yourself? i find it hard to believe you are that lean at that body weight being a natural. if you are, you could possibly be as heavy as 170 on stage. youd be suprised how much water you can lose though.
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Gh15,,, if someone could only use one drug for cutting what would it be? Primo, Anavar, Clen, T3, ???
i already said it ,, TRENBOLONA ACE all day long ,, it is gold ,, it is bette than actualy holding gold in your hand
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S0 IF I'M 5 11 180 AT 6 PERCENT. H0W MUCH WILL I BE 0N STAGE IF I WANTED T0 C0MPETE WITH0UT DRUGS? CAN I BE AR0UND 177?
depends how much water you hold on you ,, i dont know its not possible to say from pictures to the t ...but! from what i have seen ....about 170-175lb 6% ,,thats if you are 6% and hold low water
water can go from 2lb to 20lb ,, the true naturals hold very low water,,the hormiznized fellas even when condition is good and 7% still at times hold 15lb of water on them ....
so while you go from 180 to 170...truely naturaly and eady to step on stage...the hormonized fella 5'11 210 lb 6-7% wil have to go down first 15lb of water to 195lb...to even look comparable to you as in as dry and as conditioned....and then he will step on stage 190-195lb hormonized and you will stap on stage 170lb truly natual...
so 20lb of lean muscle diff which is ABSOLITLY HUGE HUGE HUGE diff,,diff classes and just too big of a diff of lean muscle tissue,, even 5 lb of muscle is big diff ,, lean muscle
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EACH PERCENT 0F B0DY FAT IS 2 LBS. EXPLAIN T0 ME WHERE THE 20 LB DR0P W0ULD C0ME FR0M AFTER GETTING D0WN 1 PERCENT FR0M 6- 5?
2.5 to 3.5lb for 1% bodyfat ...around there
i will have to see clear pictures of back and front but clear in day light outside to tell yo how much you will be ,, with out pump so there is no inflamation ,, i estimate you will be 170lb at 5'11 dry 6%
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your not 180 at 6% naturally, but even if you were, youd have to drop 1-1.5% bodyfat to get on stage, and being a natural losing those last few lbs of fat will require losing muscle as well, so your looking at about 6-7 lbs of fat and muscle loss easily, if your truly 6%, add to that at least about 10lbs of water loss in order to get dry.. that puts you at about 165 on stage. thats extremely impressve for a natural and you would look phenomenal on stage.
nah naturals go on stage 5-6 % usualy very close to 6% i rarely see naturals go on stage under 5.5 % uless asians but even they go 5.5% not 5%,, id say if he is 6% and only hold water and little fat its about 10lb of loss,, the question is if he is 6% and for that ill have to se few pictures not in special light can be a combo of special light and not whiel flexing,, i need to see side flexing i look for obliqes and piano keys and seratus they need to show through the skin even when hold water...
its really hard to say with him ,, i need more pictures,, if he is 6%! then 170 will be his stage weight as natural at 5'11 and it is natural number
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i already said it ,, TRENBOLONA ACE all day long ,, it is gold ,, it is bette than actualy holding gold in your hand
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Thank you mr. gh, I must have missed that.
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hae you posted a picture of yourself? i find it hard to believe you are that lean at that body weight being a natural. if you are, you could possibly be as heavy as 170 on stage. youd be suprised how much water you can lose though.
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/photos/view-user-photos/s/asbrus
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nah naturals go on stage 5-6 % usualy very close to 6% i rarely see naturals go on stage under 5.5 % uless asians but even they go 5.5% not 5%,, id say if he is 6% and only hold water and little fat its about 10lb of loss,, the question is if he is 6% and for that ill have to se few pictures not in special light can be a combo of special light and not whiel flexing,, i need to see side flexing i look for obliqes and piano keys and seratus they need to show through the skin even when hold water...
its really hard to say with him ,, i need more pictures,, if he is 6%! then 170 will be his stage weight as natural at 5'11 and it is natural number
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170lb on stage,, 6% mainly due to back and legs where you hold most fat ,, from front you will pill 5% over all 5.5 to 6% 170lb on stage if those pictures are 180
this is very similar to hormonized fellas condition and size wise... with somewhat less thickness,,but the numbers you say are natural,,so according to the numbers.... yes 170lb on stage around 5-6% ,,165-167lb before carb up flat
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damn assbruise, looking good!
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Even with the amount of hormones floating around in there bodies ? I've known Pro's and "former' pro's that use meth, speed , coke and anything they can get there hands on to get off there faces - go partying for days on end on meth yet still turn up to train then back out partying again - they dont visualy lose any size and there skin is like tissue paper so ultra lean - on the amount of hormones they are on they can get away with alot more.
I think the list I have is pretty accurate. I still doubt there are that many using cocaine or meth just the gay 4 pay bodybuilders they are more into the party scene you would have to be on drugs to do what they do.
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bad thign to use any of them ,, but even worse to use them and get no where in bodybuild...i feel very bad to the ones who used it and placed 16th in nationals,, or fellas who never done competitions and used it or fellas who went on stage and used it because they were boucing in clubs,,
this cult is build from bunch of fellons! this is the sad thing
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You cannot deny that list is accurate though! GHB and nubain are at the top. cocaine is used by very few on a day to day basis. the drugs I posted are. especially in your suppose era. you know how bad of a problem GHB and nubain were. I highly doubt jay messes with any cocaine either does heath. maybe kai greene does but not on a day to day basis. you cannot sleep on daily cocaine usage. Bodybuilders have trouble with insomnia usually from high doses of trenbolone and other AAS also fat burners will keep them up look at ronnie coleman the man would be up all night got m inimal sleep. but sleep is very important that is why they use these compounds. lethargy can be killed without using cocaine. hell everybody BB or not gets lethargic.
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lets say you are ummmmmmmmmmm 170lb naturaly on stage 5'10...this is VERY VERY GOOD NATURAL!,,
you add aas...and you are sick in the head really like bodybuilding and do it all the time....
you will end up about 20-30lb bigger from aas only
that means you will compete 195lb 5'10 if only used anabolic steroids,, maybe 200lb if really in your early 200s...
those are the best case scenarios by the way ,, most average fellas only gain 15-20lb on a true natural ,, im talking LEAN LEAN MUSCLE TISSUE
now! when you add hgh to aas....then something happen....you sundenly can break the 200lb mark on stage
and when you add hgh and insulina....you finaly can be the mess you see today at 240 250 260 270etc...
a 220lb 5'10 fella on stage is always on hgh insulina and aas,, ALWAYS
that means! any bodybuild who you ever seen on stage at 5'10 220 lb was on all 3 ! and that means any bodybuild you saw 5'8 205-210lb on stage .....was on all 3 ! ,, and that means every 5'6 bodybuild who ever was 190-195lb on stage was on all 3! and the list go on and on and on
7lb per inch up or down
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I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYONE WEIGHING 220 ON STAGE IS ON HGH? NOT EVEYONE CAN AFFORD IT FOR ONE. I HAD A BUDDY THAT DIETED DOWN WHO IS WAS 222 ON STAGE AT 6FT WHO USED NOTHING BUT FINA FOR THE LAST 6 WKS BEFORE THE SHOW..THATS IT. HE RAN OUT OF TEST. HE WAS IN GOOD SHAPE TO. HE USED CYNOMEL, EFEDERINE AND CAFFIENE
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I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYONE WEIGHING 220 ON STAGE IS ON HGH? NOT EVEYONE CAN AFFORD IT FOR ONE. I HAD A BUDDY THAT DIETED DOWN WHO IS WAS 222 ON STAGE AT 6FT WHO USED NOTHING BUT FINA FOR THE LAST 6 WKS BEFORE THE SHOW..THATS IT. HE RAN OUT OF TEST. HE WAS IN GOOD SHAPE TO. HE USED CYNOMEL, EFEDERINE AND CAFFIENE
I THINK HE MEANT AT 5 10. IF Y0U'RE BUDDY IS 6 FEET THAT'S AN EXTRA TW0 INCHES ADDING 14 LBS 0F MUSCLE.
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Gh15 is wrong about the cocaine usage especially if he is saying they use it day to day. maybe when they party once or twice a month. cocaine is horrible stuff. GHB and nubain and benzos such as valium have always been at the top of a daiily drug usi ng bodybuilder! Not cocaine or meth! thats just balonie meth makes you skinny and you lose muscle I dont crae if your juiced to the gills stay off the white dope! GHB and nubain, valium are the notorious drugs bodybuilders have trouble with. Now painkillers are becomming popular but still not like GHB or nubain or valium!
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I THINK HE MEANT AT 5 10. IF Y0U'RE BUDDY IS 6 FEET THAT'S AN EXTRA TW0 INCHES ADDING 14 LBS 0F MUSCLE.
EVEN AT THAT ALL HE WAS USING WAS FINA..COW PELLETS AT THAT. I REALLY BELIEVE THAT HE COULD BE IN THE LOW TO MIE 230S WITHOUT GH IF HE DIETED ON A GOOD CYCLE BECAUSE HIS DIET IS SPOT ON
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Gh15 is wrong about the cocaine usage especially if he is saying they use it day to day. maybe when they party once or twice a month. cocaine is horrible stuff. GHB and nubain and benzos such as valium have always been at the top of a daiily drug usi ng bodybuilder! Not cocaine or meth! thats just balonie meth makes you skinny and you lose muscle I dont crae if your juiced to the gills stay off the whie dope! GHB and nubain, valium are the notorious drugs bodybuilders have trouble with. Now painkillers are becomming popular but still not like GHB or nubain or valium!
I AGREE. IF YOU USE METH, COKE ECT. YOU WILL GET SMALL QUICK
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You cannot deny that list is accurate though! GHB and nubain are at the top. cocaine is used by very few on a day to day basis. the drugs I posted are. especially in your suppose era. you know how bad of a problem GHB and nubain were. I highly doubt jay messes with any cocaine either does heath. maybe kai greene does but not on a day to day basis. you cannot sleep on daily cocaine usage. Bodybuilders have trouble with insomnia usually from high doses of trenbolone and other AAS also fat burners will keep them up look at ronnie coleman the man would be up all night got m inimal sleep. but sleep is very important that is why they use these compounds. lethargy can be killed without using cocaine. hell everybody BB or not gets lethargic.
you dont knwo what you are tlaking about ,,when i say somethign its nto if or buts it is how it is ,, i said look into philsulina eyes...and you will find your answers
the murderer open the door for me one day and he ws so high that i turned around and left ,, he ws wait wait where you going ,, i left ,, and he was not the only one! many more
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I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYONE WEIGHING 220 ON STAGE IS ON HGH? NOT EVEYONE CAN AFFORD IT FOR ONE. I HAD A BUDDY THAT DIETED DOWN WHO IS WAS 222 ON STAGE AT 6FT WHO USED NOTHING BUT FINA FOR THE LAST 6 WKS BEFORE THE SHOW..THATS IT. HE RAN OUT OF TEST. HE WAS IN GOOD SHAPE TO. HE USED CYNOMEL, EFEDERINE AND CAFFIENE
i start thinking i talk to bunch of retards i am not kidding,,
5'10 is nto 6 feet ,, 7 lb per inch ! the fella you describe would be 205-207 if 5'10....was he 4%? or was he 6%? i would bet 6% ,,in addition to that..you dont say wether he used before hgh and other thigns,, WHICH HE DID ,,
i do not understand the balonie with americano fellas,, you are from florida americana right? why do you fellas lie all the time? can you explain this to me?
again ,, i will say this once again!
your BUDDY who competeed used lots of testosterona lots of trewnbolona ,, lots of other stuff was on hgh before most likley but doesnt have to becaus 6% 205 5'10 can make it with out gh if young enough and on the right aas ,,most of the fellas who are 5'10 205lb 6% DO USE GH AT 4-6 IU AND IT IS NOT ON A CONSISTANT ENOUHG BASIS THUS THEY CLAIM THEY DONT USE IT
im tired of explaining this ,, my pupils should know it by now,,
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I THINK HE MEANT AT 5 10. IF Y0U'RE BUDDY IS 6 FEET THAT'S AN EXTRA TW0 INCHES ADDING 14 LBS 0F MUSCLE.
good job ,, i didnt even read your posting before writing my reply ,, good job ,, yes this is exactly what i mean among the rest of what i wrote
205lb 5'10 SUB 6% is always on hgh among many other things,,doesnt hav eto be on it at the time of prep ,, but primed himself before or been on hgh before..and you fellass know exactly what i mean
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EVEN AT THAT ALL HE WAS USING WAS FINA..COW PELLETS AT THAT. I REALLY BELIEVE THAT HE COULD BE IN THE LOW TO MIE 230S WITHOUT GH IF HE DIETED ON A GOOD CYCLE BECAUSE HIS DIET IS SPOT ON
never,, you wil not find 6 feet bodybuilder on only aas that is 230lb with out gh stage ready ,, never was one and never will be one,,biggest one was arnold he was 6'1 230-235 on stage that = 6 feet 225-230 and he wasexperiementing with cadavar gh at that time,, he went from 220 to 235 at 6'1!,,and your friend is most likley no arnold,, i still havent seen an arnold aside from ron colman
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Gh15 is wrong about the cocaine usage especially if he is saying they use it day to day. maybe when they party once or twice a month. cocaine is horrible stuff. GHB and nubain and benzos such as valium have always been at the top of a daiily drug usi ng bodybuilder! Not cocaine or meth! thats just balonie meth makes you skinny and you lose muscle I dont crae if your juiced to the gills stay off the white dope! GHB and nubain, valium are the notorious drugs bodybuilders have trouble with. Now painkillers are becomming popular but still not like GHB or nubain or valium!
thats not balonie hgl,, thats the truth! the fact you sit home all day long going to sleep in the am waking up at night and dont even compete and never competed....says it all ,, trust me on that we use much much more than you know or wish to knwo,, i never was for it ,, i never used it ,, but it cost me placings,,
bodybuilders especialy modern bodybuild use a lot of narcotics from valiums to xanaxes to ghbs to nubeins to coacines to crystal meth ,, and you dont lose muscle on it if hormonized to the max on all you can eat diet,, and on cocaine you eat and lose fat like there is no tomorow,, and on weeeeeed you eat your mama and papa ,, gh weed together ...are you fuckin nuts? there is no need to even diet ,,
now true the best bodybuild know how to avoid the abuse of narcotics,, but many up and comers fall and fall deep and i can give tons of examples but i will let you have some thinking material...
when matarazza left bodybuild he didnt want to talk about it no more ,, he wasnted complete isolation ,, same for many others who left it,,
have you recently looked into the eyes of a fella by the name mishko sarcevb ,, big addict! look into his eyes ,, maybe musclechinaman can put you some video of recent mishko...so you understand the fella is very ill!,, very! on the outside he is ok ...but inside he is wrotten and ofcourse he will get back to 250...and on the outside all good but he will fall before his time,, mark my words,,
look into the high eyes of philsulina...check it otu somtimes,, his eyes are high!
look into the move branch waren did befor o....he just fell and broke his balonie right? the answer is no! ,, he was ovrsaturated with angels of death ...notice now he will let go on hormones to some degree and detoxicate himself,, he would not be ready for o ,, due to many things among them wifey prego ,, and oversaturation with drugs,,
dont teach me bodybuiold,, i been to the top of the moutain ,, im the teacher youre the pupil
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Assbruise
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cocaine suppresses appetite, this is a huge deal to ballet dancers and probably bodybuilders when theyre cutting
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balonie,, i expect you to tell this to some morons on muscular develp ,,not to my pupils or me,, this is straight out balonie,, and you didnt do nationals because you WERE NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO MAKE A BREAK!,, YOU DECIDED TO PUT YOUR EFFORTS SOMEWHERE WHERE MAYBE YOULL GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT,, thats why you didnt do it!
everyone can do nationals if on the right hormones ,, legit hormones,, i will elaborate on it again in diff postings when i have more time
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Hate to admit it... But this piece of shit drug addicted drug pusher is correct.. If you were good enough,there is no way,you would have put it all aside to be unhappy.. There are many ,many people out there that are in tougher situations,and still accomplish their goals.. People train,raise their families ,go to school ,and sett out to do their passion. But you quit..! It's really a shame..
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Bodybuilders are drug addicts... Drug addicts do drug and it's not just limited to hormones, plain and simple.
B I N G O !!!!!