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Title: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: quadzilla456 on August 27, 2011, 11:54:54 AM
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/attachment-116.jpg?t=1273867935)

Ben Pakulski, Jeff long & Erik

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/deetrakt/LEG/leg-BPakulski-JeffLong-calves.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 27, 2011, 11:56:44 AM
A friend of mine said Pakulski's calves were the freakiest thing he ever saw

Calves are probably the most eye catching bodypart there is. Unfortunately I can never get calves.  :'(
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: quadzilla456 on August 27, 2011, 11:58:44 AM
More pics of Ben's calves. The rest of his physique is not too shabby either!!

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4710409912_3e57e6f846.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: quadzilla456 on August 27, 2011, 12:00:25 PM
Nevermind Erik's teeth - his calves attach at the soles! Not sure which one is morphed though.

(http://i55.tinypic.com/17tjwj.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: quadzilla456 on August 27, 2011, 12:01:16 PM
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e154/benwatterson/IMG_2190.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: quadzilla456 on August 27, 2011, 12:10:06 PM
Kuclo vs Ben.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wilk7_-vzHQ/TTb5HZMki3I/AAAAAAAAABg/J8hmubjiS9w/s1600/kuclo.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: jude2 on August 27, 2011, 12:13:57 PM
The answer is yes.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: quadzilla456 on August 27, 2011, 12:17:45 PM
Kuclo's calves are also good.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-LNDJVN_CbPA/TjOQcnSig7I/AAAAAAAAG9w/kYL1JXxpsEI/jvs1.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: affeman on August 27, 2011, 12:19:52 PM
Insane calves on all of em and 100 % genetics. I bet most of em barely even train em.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: The Ugly on August 27, 2011, 12:30:58 PM
More pics of Ben's calves. The rest of his physique is not too shabby either!!

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4710409912_3e57e6f846.jpg)

Are those shoulders real?
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: affeman on August 27, 2011, 12:35:52 PM
More pics of Ben's calves. The rest of his physique is not too shabby either!!

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4710409912_3e57e6f846.jpg)

Too bad he got the back of an average middle-weight.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Khofo on August 27, 2011, 12:49:59 PM
Are those shoulders real?

a little synthol
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: The Ugly on August 27, 2011, 12:51:24 PM
Fuckin circus.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: quadzilla456 on August 27, 2011, 12:52:43 PM
a little synthol
GH15 claims almost all pros use synthol. They inject it deep into the tissue under the muscle layers. They still have striations but the muscles look fuller because the synthol is bulging them outward from underneath.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: The Ugly on August 27, 2011, 12:55:03 PM
GH15 claims almost all pros use synthol. They inject it deep into the tissue under the muscle layers. They still have striations but the muscles look fuller because the synthol is bulging them outward from underneath.

Why do we still follow this repulsive shit?
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: apply85 on August 27, 2011, 01:17:14 PM
In the context of the rest of the body imo very big calves are not good to look it, they take away from the thighs. Take a look at ronnie coleman's profile, just his sill oh wet, when he's relaxed, that's perfection and his legs look like they belong on a horse partially because his calves aren't huge and his legs taper as they say, I dunno if that's the right word, I mean to say huge calves don't look good on stage but look good wearing shorts at the grocer store
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Khofo on August 27, 2011, 01:20:35 PM
GH15 claims almost all pros use synthol. They inject it deep into the tissue under the muscle layers. They still have striations but the muscles look fuller because the synthol is bulging them outward from underneath.

 yea but still in moderation. Looks okay. Not as shitty as Greg Valentino
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: The Ugly on August 27, 2011, 01:22:13 PM
yea but still in moderation. Looks okay. Not as shitty as Greg Valentino

Any is too much.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: French on August 27, 2011, 01:30:19 PM
best calves in the biz goes to Al.

Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: erics on August 27, 2011, 01:34:34 PM
In the context of the rest of the body imo very big calves are not good to look it, they take away from the thighs. Take a look at ronnie coleman's profile, just his sill oh wet, when he's relaxed, that's perfection and his legs look like they belong on a horse partially because his calves aren't huge and his legs taper as they say, I dunno if that's the right word, I mean to say huge calves don't look good on stage but look good wearing shorts at the grocer store

You've just overturned decades of traditional physique wisdom with this post...
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: JasonH on August 27, 2011, 01:40:27 PM
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/attachment-116.jpg?t=1273867935)

Pakulsi's got quite possibly the best calves in bodybuilding history there - can't think of many who are better.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: apply85 on August 27, 2011, 01:45:29 PM
You've just overturned decades of traditional physique wisdom with this post...

r u making fun of melol
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: erics on August 27, 2011, 01:47:38 PM
r u making fun of melol

I don't know.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: apply85 on August 27, 2011, 01:49:04 PM
Those three guys in the pic for instance, they all look gross to me, big muscles but not beautiful muscles
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: erics on August 27, 2011, 01:56:40 PM
Those three guys in the pic for instance, they all look gross to me, big muscles but not beautiful muscles

That's because they probably don't work on their lines and they don't know how to present their physiques.

Most of them would look much better if they knew how to pose.

But the IFBB doesn't consider the ability to pose an important part of how a physique looks.

In anycase, in terms of aesthetics, if you have calves but no thighs, your legs lwill still ook good. If you have thighs but no calves, your legs will look stupid.

It's basic aesthetic knowledge but these days, the judges don't consider aesthetics much anymore.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: apply85 on August 27, 2011, 02:02:17 PM
That's because they probably don't work on their lines and they don't know how to present their physiques.

Most of them would look much better if they knew how to pose.

But the IFBB doesn't consider the ability to pose an important part of how a physique looks.

In anycase, in terms of aesthetics, if you have calves but no thighs, your legs lwill still ook good. If you have thighs but no calves, your legs will look stupid.

It's basic aesthetic knowledge but these days, the judges don't consider aesthetics much anymore.

No, beauty of something you have or don't have, those guys should ease back on calf raises, but they're going for mass and freakiness not beauty, so they won't. If you wan an exacmple of beauty, take a look at frank zane in that bb group pic 15 talks about, he's not the biggest but what little you can see of him if much more beautiful than anything else. He just has it
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: quadzilla456 on August 27, 2011, 02:22:58 PM
Those three guys in the pic for instance, they all look gross to me, big muscles but not beautiful muscles
Aren't you black? No wonder you're hating big calves. Though Vince Taylor had awesome calves...

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/156/images/Vince_Taylor_photo136.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: erics on August 27, 2011, 02:29:35 PM
No, beauty of something you have or don't have, those guys should ease back on calf raises, but they're going for mass and freakiness not beauty, so they won't. If you wan an exacmple of beauty, take a look at frank zane in that bb group pic 15 talks about, he's not the biggest but what little you can see of him if much more beautiful than anything else. He just has it

I think we are agreeing here though it sounds like we are at odds.

I think Zane is probably the greatest bodybuilder of them all.

Why? Because he worked towards aesthetics. Consistently. He never fell for the size trap.

A bodybuilder is not a bodybuilder but just a thug if he is unaware of the limtis of size for his own particular frame. Once you go beyond that limit - for your frame - you are no longer a bodybuilder.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: delta9mda on August 27, 2011, 02:31:15 PM
VINCE TAYLOR, AARON BAKER and PAUL DILLETTE. all had serious calves (atypical black man genetics) no homo

Pakulski's calves are probably best out there now.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on August 27, 2011, 02:37:54 PM
VINCE TAYLOR, AARON BAKER and PAUL DILLETTE. all had serious calves (atypical black man genetics) no homo

Pakulski's calves are probably best out there now.

yes dillett had the best black calves ever..
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 27, 2011, 02:46:57 PM


I think Zane is probably the greatest bodybuilder of them all.

Why? Because he worked towards aesthetics. Consistently. He never fell for the size trap.



I think Zane "worked for size" just as much as the next guy back then. Just genetically a "light" guy.

You can't train for aesthetics. You can avoid ruining whatever aesthetics you have by not overeating and overusing insulin. But that's today... Zane did what all the rest were doing back then.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: erics on August 27, 2011, 02:54:02 PM
I think Zane "worked for size" just as much as the next guy back then. Just genetically a "light" guy.

You can't train for aesthetics. You can avoid ruining whatever aesthetics you have by not overeating and overusing insulin. But that's today... Zane did what all the rest were doing back then.

Not according to what Zane says.

Aesthetics is definitely something you can work towards.

You shouldn't buy into the notion that aesthetics is for 'lighter' guys. That's a misnomer spread by guys who are too proud to control how they look.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: apply85 on August 27, 2011, 03:03:33 PM
Aren't you black? No wonder you're hating big calves. Though Vince Taylor had awesome calves...

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/156/images/Vince_Taylor_photo136.jpg)

No I'm not black, and these are seo calves, you cal tell because they taper to such a sharp and small ankle, guys with huge calves have not only the two big main muscles but also oversized supporting muscles, making the whole region very thick and making the whole leg kind of bottom heavy, but these calves I like, remind me of ronnie's
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 27, 2011, 03:07:20 PM
Not according to what Zane says.

Aesthetics is definitely something you can work towards.

You shouldn't buy into the notion that aesthetics is for 'lighter' guys. That's a misnomer spread by guys who are too proud to control how they look.

Whatever was a guy's selling point is what they always supposedly worked for. It's just ridiculous of course. The big brutal guys worked for that. The lighter so-called aesthetic guys worked for this instead. Also notice how bodybuilders always site guys who look like themselves as their inspirations and how they worked to look like their idols? Fact of the matter is that genetics is what dictates if you're going to look aesthetic or blocky. It's not a training trick. Mike Katz could never look like Zane, he could do Zane's routine exactly and it wouldn't work. And Zane couldn't look like Katz. Could Platz have been proportionate and symmetrical? No, he tried and failed. Could Arnold have Platz's quads? No.
All a bb can do is add muscle to his frame. Proportions and skeletal structure is what determines aesthetic appeal and it's all genetic. Take ANY bodybuilder at the start of their competitive career and compare to the end, when they no doubt tried balancing out their bodyparts and you'll just see a bigger version of the starting point. Training has little to nothing to do with it.

No, aesthetics isn't just for lighter guys, that's absolutely right. But lighter guys are always called aesthetic by bodybuilding fans, magazines, etc. Being light isn't necessarily aesthetic.

Like I said, the only thing you can do is avoid ruining your aesthetics with drugs and food and Synthol etc.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 27, 2011, 03:08:58 PM
No I'm not black, and these are seo calves, you cal tell because they taper to such a sharp and small ankle, guys with huge calves have not only the two big main muscles but also oversized supporting muscles, making the whole region very thick and making the whole leg kind of bottom heavy, but these calves I like, remind me of ronnie's

Come on, Vince's calves are fantastic whereas Ronnie's are a mess of scar tissue. Doesn't even compare.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: dr.chimps on August 27, 2011, 03:10:42 PM
No I'm not black, and these are seo calves, you cal tell because they taper to such a sharp and small ankle, guys with huge calves have not only the two big main muscles but also oversized supporting muscles, making the whole region very thick and making the whole leg kind of bottom heavy, but these calves I like, remind me of ronnie's
Pretty sure Vince, and his calves, was on the scene before oil got prevalent. 
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: apply85 on August 27, 2011, 03:15:08 PM
Come on, Vince's calves are fantastic whereas Ronnie's are a mess of scar tissue. Doesn't even compare.

k nevermind then lol
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: apply85 on August 27, 2011, 03:16:26 PM
k then maybe they arent synthol lol, I liek the way theyre nice and not fat like those on white guys with big calves, but vince's arent really all that big, they have a nice shape though, I would say shape > size when it comes to calves
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Nirvana on August 27, 2011, 03:19:28 PM
they must ride bicycles a lot
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 27, 2011, 03:20:56 PM
k nevermind then lol
:D

Vince's calves look like diamonds. Ronnie's are uneven from left to right, there is no belly, the gastroc is flat.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/TCuqjZDkxBI/AAAAAAAAMEw/o3MsQ6dhfqQ/s1600/Ronnie+Coleman+-+02+-+www.Musclebase.Blogspot.com.JPG)

k then maybe they arent synthol lol, I liek the way theyre nice and not fat like those on white guys with big calves, but vince's arent really all that big, they have a nice shape though, I would say shape > size when it comes to calves

There have been some accusations of implants in Vince's case and if this were true that's a fantastic job I have to say.  :D
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 27, 2011, 03:22:36 PM
Damn, was googling pics and saw this abomination. Flex Wheeler.

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2733883&stc=1&d=1285430886)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: apply85 on August 27, 2011, 03:23:22 PM
:D

Vince's calves look like diamonds. Ronnie's are uneven from left to right, there is no belly, the gastroc is flat.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/TCuqjZDkxBI/AAAAAAAAMEw/o3MsQ6dhfqQ/s1600/Ronnie+Coleman+-+02+-+www.Musclebase.Blogspot.com.JPG)


Yuck, you're right why did he do that to himself
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: erics on August 27, 2011, 03:23:40 PM
Whatever was a guy's selling point is what they always supposedly worked for. It's just ridiculous of course. The big brutal guys worked for that. The lighter so-called aesthetic guys worked for this instead. Also notice how bodybuilders always site guys who look like themselves as their inspirations and how they worked to look like their idols? Fact of the matter is that genetics is what dictates if you're going to look aesthetic or blocky. It's not a training trick. Mike Katz could never look like Zane, he could do Zane's routine exactly and it wouldn't work. And Zane couldn't look like Katz. Could Platz have been proportionate and symmetrical? No, he tried and failed. Could Arnold have Platz's quads? No.
All a bb can do is add muscle to his frame. Proportions and skeletal structure is what determines aesthetic appeal and it's all genetic. Take ANY bodybuilder at the start of their competitive career and compare to the end, when they no doubt tried balancing out their bodyparts and you'll just see a bigger version of the starting point. Training has little to nothing to do with it.

No, aesthetics isn't just for lighter guys, that's absolutely right. But lighter guys are always called aesthetic by bodybuilding fans, magazines, etc. Being light isn't necessarily aesthetic.

Like I said, the only thing you can do is avoid ruining your aesthetics with drugs and food and Synthol etc.

Sure, to an extent but if take Arnold as an example, his physique looked totally different later in his career than earlier. He was much more balanced and aesthetic. Ronnie was the opposite. Lee Labrada, at the end of his career hard started to add size which slightly altered the quality of his aesthetics. Bannout changed comnpletely from being aesthetically perfect towards being just bigger. Zane wasn't always aesthetically pleasing. In his earlier days, he was way out of balance.

But you are right in suggesting it is easier to ruin what you have. These days, the judges seem to value that approach.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: RagingBull on August 27, 2011, 03:29:41 PM
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/attachment-116.jpg?t=1273867935)

Pakulsi's got quite possibly the best calves in bodybuilding history there - can't think of many who are better.

Matarazzo comes to mind.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 27, 2011, 03:30:22 PM
Yuck, you're right why did he do that to himself

Ronnie's calves looked real bad just standing there. Adding some oil improved the front silhouette. Ronnie looked a bit strange with real small calves, especially with the slight cow legged shape to his legs (lower leg sort of bending outward).
It's rare that oil and site injections improve a bb in my opinion but calves are somewhat a special case. If the calves are real bad it can add some balance even if it's obvious what they did.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: apply85 on August 27, 2011, 03:32:02 PM
Ronnie's calves looked real bad just standing there. Adding some oil improved the front silhouette. Ronnie looked a bit strange with real small calves, especially with the slight cow legged shape to his legs (lower leg sort of bending outward).
It's rare that oil and site injections improve a bb in my opinion but calves are somewhat a special case. If the calves are real bad it can add some balance even if it's obvious what they did.

pic of his calves w/o synthol or nolotil?
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Kulutues on August 27, 2011, 03:38:38 PM
the best calves ever, half black guy

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=35302&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on August 27, 2011, 03:55:09 PM
 :o ;D
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: jude2 on August 27, 2011, 04:11:37 PM
Come on, Vince's calves are fantastic whereas Ronnie's are a mess of scar tissue. Doesn't even compare.
Correct Vince's calves were real. Kai is another black guy with good calves.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: MAXX on August 27, 2011, 04:13:00 PM
Damn, was googling pics and saw this abomination. Flex Wheeler.

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2733883&stc=1&d=1285430886)
haha

what's going on with those calves.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: njflex on August 27, 2011, 04:22:37 PM
Sure, to an extent but if take Arnold as an example, his physique looked totally different later in his career than earlier. He was much more balanced and aesthetic. Ronnie was the opposite. Lee Labrada, at the end of his career hard started to add size which slightly altered the quality of his aesthetics. Bannout changed comnpletely from being aesthetically perfect towards being just bigger. Zane wasn't always aesthetically pleasing. In his earlier days, he was way out of balance.

But you are right in suggesting it is easier to ruin what you have. These days, the judges seem to value that approach.
labrada as an example yes was 175 in earlier olympia's at then of his career he was in the 190's and had a more vascular,thicker look all around esp arms which were a strongpoint,he did not get that way using connelly's metrx.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Parker on August 27, 2011, 04:24:49 PM
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/attachment-116.jpg?t=1273867935)

Pakulsi's got quite possibly the best calves in bodybuilding history there - can't think of many who are better.
Mike Mattazzo had 21' calves at a lesser body weight than Ben, who has 19s.

They are freaky, but I think Erik's are better.
BTW, there is a pic of Nasser measuring his calves at 21 inches.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Parker on August 27, 2011, 04:30:29 PM
Damn, was googling pics and saw this abomination. Flex Wheeler.

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2733883&stc=1&d=1285430886)
Instead of googling, maybe you might want to check getbig for the rare pic I posted of Flex at the 93 Arnold---Its a full backshot showing detailed, flexed diamond shaped calves---not big, but thet matched his physique.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Nirvana on August 27, 2011, 06:11:28 PM
im gonna be the gregg valentino of calves.  Im gonna make elephantiasis look healthy
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Rudee on August 27, 2011, 06:24:33 PM
the best calves ever, half black guy

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=35302&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)

I saw Dillet in person in the late 90's at a gym in Toronto, and when he walked past me, as big as his upper body was, it was his lower body that blew me away.  Massive quads, massive hamstrings, and calves big as footballs, and they were ripped. 
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Parker on August 27, 2011, 06:32:32 PM
And no mention of Phil Hill, who had beastly calves regardless of race.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on August 27, 2011, 06:33:06 PM
ben has the same 5 finger shoes as me
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: quadzilla456 on August 27, 2011, 06:56:15 PM
Mike Mattazzo had 21' calves at a lesser body weight than Ben, who has 19s.

They are freaky, but I think Erik's are better.
BTW, there is a pic of Nasser measuring his calves at 21 inches.
Ben's calves have to be over 20s. There is no way in hell those are 19s.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: quadzilla456 on August 27, 2011, 06:57:54 PM
Then there is Dorian's calves. Some of the best ever!

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ1ooxhlgi-wny9_6NBQgCMCvU5TnFWC2xN5qBUDJNaREp2Ud_XIw)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: quadzilla456 on August 27, 2011, 06:59:42 PM
Mihaly Kormany

(http://www.bodyresource.nl/forum/attachments/fotos-en-filmpjes/10827d1244420606-beentjes-kopie-van-p5260260.jpg)

(http://www.bodyresource.nl/forum/attachments/fotos-en-filmpjes/10829d1244420606-beentjes-kopie-van-p5260261.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on August 27, 2011, 06:59:58 PM
Then there is Dorian's calves. Some of the best ever!

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ1ooxhlgi-wny9_6NBQgCMCvU5TnFWC2xN5qBUDJNaREp2Ud_XIw)
def NOT
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: quadzilla456 on August 27, 2011, 07:04:18 PM
def NOT
yes!
(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2008/08-001-training/image009.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Khofo on August 27, 2011, 07:10:11 PM
Mike has some great calves

(http://staging.flexonline.com/media/originals/mmcalveslarge.jpg)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=37008&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(http://i30.tinypic.com/2yzh24y.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_g93bcGvgWBo/SGVkrJKrvxI/AAAAAAAAD-U/hVMaG5ChNTg/s1600/MikeMatarazzo-11.jpg)
(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/123855-1/23+Mike+Matarazzo+pic.jpg)
(http://fanculto.free.fr/images/matt012.jpg)
(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/123839-1/14+Mike+Matarazzo+photo.jpg)
(http://muscleshots.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/mystery19.jpg)
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2571303&d=1278630520)
(http://fanculto.free.fr/images/mtrz7.jpg)
(http://fanculto.free.fr/images/mat05.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NUFARro_gN4/Srgd0IbYvSI/AAAAAAAAAMU/wwnWbu-deKc/s400/1993-night-of-champions-142-mike-matarazzo.jpg)
(http://www.kandeleria.ru/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/kak-nakachat-ikryi-mike-matarazzo.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: che on August 27, 2011, 07:26:43 PM
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/deetrakt/LEG/leg-ZoltanTth.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Parker on August 27, 2011, 07:42:42 PM
Ben's calves have to be over 20s. There is no way in hell those are 19s.
Matt C spoke on this about a month ago, apparently he asked Ben, and Ben said they measured 19s, I don't think Ben is as tall as Mattarazzo, so Ben's look huge...
And I started a thread either last yr or in 2009 about whose was better Ben's or Erik'
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: che on August 27, 2011, 07:45:58 PM
Best calves  ever

Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Nasty Nate on August 27, 2011, 07:55:47 PM
Matt C spoke on this about a month ago, apparently he asked Ben, and Ben said they measured 19s, I don't think Ben is as tall as Mattarazzo, so Ben's look huge...
And I started a thread either last yr or in 2009 about whose was better Ben's or Erik'


That's pretty shocking, i thought Ben's calves were around 21", short shins i guess. Freaky calves are cool and everything as a show off muscle in the day to day, but I think Paul D and Dorian had the best looking huge calves. Erik's just look stupid to me. His calves probably measure 4 inches more than his arms, and they overpower his quads and hams, not a good look imo.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: OlDirTy on August 27, 2011, 07:59:54 PM
Matt C spoke on this about a month ago, apparently he asked Ben, and Ben said they measured 19s

2min30...

Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Nasty Nate on August 27, 2011, 08:05:59 PM
2min30...



poliquin overcomplicating shit... fuckin dork
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Parker on August 27, 2011, 08:25:30 PM
At the end of the day, large calves don't make you run faster or jump higher. We've all seen fat women (and men) who have HUGE calves to the point that they look like mutant Bulls.

The most extreme example to me was a construction worker who had a beret belly and big round ass calves that started at the base of the knee and ended well down his shin...looked like he was bitten by spider, had balloons or was relates to Popeye.

And he just walked along.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: 99 Bananas on August 27, 2011, 09:20:37 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=74534.0;attach=81701;image)

Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: delta9mda on August 27, 2011, 10:18:06 PM
No I'm not black, and these are seo calves, you cal tell because they taper to such a sharp and small ankle, guys with huge calves have not only the two big main muscles but also oversized supporting muscles, making the whole region very thick and making the whole leg kind of bottom heavy, but these calves I like, remind me of ronnie's
false and fail. vince always had the calves and ive seen him at many npc show here in Florida. same calves all the time. they are not injected. man has genetics for calves. you have them or you dont.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: gh15 on August 27, 2011, 10:18:45 PM
best calves in bodybuild history belong to mike matarazza,, when taking everything to consideration ,, both sheer size and shape,, and over all the balance and symetry ,,the diamond shape ,, and the products used,,

ben plupsosky is all insulina and gh ,, same for kuklo the kid,,  matarazza was more aas and gh ....big diff,, his calves are stil number one in the history of bodybuild,, again calves are genetic and nothing you can do about it other than  seo which is dumb to do now day because....mr o 2008 had no special calves.... you can get to top with no calves see denise wolfe,, really today it dont count ,,back in the 80s and 90s yes ...today you dont need no calves

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Arnold jr on August 27, 2011, 10:28:54 PM
Whatever was a guy's selling point is what they always supposedly worked for. It's just ridiculous of course. The big brutal guys worked for that. The lighter so-called aesthetic guys worked for this instead. Also notice how bodybuilders always site guys who look like themselves as their inspirations and how they worked to look like their idols? Fact of the matter is that genetics is what dictates if you're going to look aesthetic or blocky. It's not a training trick. Mike Katz could never look like Zane, he could do Zane's routine exactly and it wouldn't work. And Zane couldn't look like Katz. Could Platz have been proportionate and symmetrical? No, he tried and failed. Could Arnold have Platz's quads? No.
All a bb can do is add muscle to his frame. Proportions and skeletal structure is what determines aesthetic appeal and it's all genetic. Take ANY bodybuilder at the start of their competitive career and compare to the end, when they no doubt tried balancing out their bodyparts and you'll just see a bigger version of the starting point. Training has little to nothing to do with it.

No, aesthetics isn't just for lighter guys, that's absolutely right. But lighter guys are always called aesthetic by bodybuilding fans, magazines, etc. Being light isn't necessarily aesthetic.

Like I said, the only thing you can do is avoid ruining your aesthetics with drugs and food and Synthol etc.

Fantastic post!

As for this thread, Flex Lewis calves seem to be missing from this page.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Meso_z on August 28, 2011, 12:07:33 AM
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/deetrakt/LEG/leg-ZoltanTth.jpg)
Matarazzo?

Nasser comes to mind too.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Immortal_Technique on August 28, 2011, 12:56:29 AM
Pukulsky's look more than 19 inches, and I don't think he weighs more than Matarrazzo, who was huge. More mass than Mazz for sure, but mad Mazz had that crazy shape. Tough call!
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 28, 2011, 01:13:26 AM
Louie's calves at the 92 O.... ::)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Figo on August 30, 2011, 07:39:59 AM
best calves in bodybuild history belong to mike matarazza,, when taking everything to consideration ,, both sheer size and shape,, and over all the balance and symetry ,,the diamond shape ,, and the products used,,

ben plupsosky is all insulina and gh ,, same for kuklo the kid,,  matarazza was more aas and gh ....big diff,, his calves are stil number one in the history of bodybuild,, again calves are genetic and nothing you can do about it other than  seo which is dumb to do now day because....mr o 2008 had no special calves.... you can get to top with no calves see denise wolfe,, really today it dont count ,,back in the 80s and 90s yes ...today you dont need no calves

gh15 approved
was mm one of the first big users of seo's?
(http://www.musclesprod.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/MikeMatarazzo-MMI-Unk-508-300x294.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Sam on August 30, 2011, 07:49:49 AM
 :D
(http://pic30.picturetrail.com/VOL1563/9225083/17023908/263508415.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Sam on August 30, 2011, 07:51:38 AM
Erik, these babies stick out further than his teeth

(http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL746/11600015/20614232/336519339.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Sam on August 30, 2011, 07:53:11 AM
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/libraphil/robertburneika11.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Sam on August 30, 2011, 07:54:31 AM
 :D

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/deetrakt/ETC/etc-AnonDiver-calves.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Sam on August 30, 2011, 07:55:46 AM
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/deetrakt/LEG/leg-BPakulski-JeffLong-calves.jpg)

I cant decide who has the best calves. Pukulski has the edge in shock value but the sabre tooth tiger has it on insertions.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: OTHstrong on August 30, 2011, 08:07:45 AM
I was at Pukulski's very first local show, he won but not by much and his calves where the same as they are today, the whole audiance was in awe of his calves, a month later he came second at a regional event, his improvements since then have been enormous, except for his calves witch have always been like that, so no way in hell has he put oil in them,
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: French on August 30, 2011, 10:51:31 AM

Chris had the best diamond-shapes calves.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 30, 2011, 10:53:17 AM
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/deetrakt/LEG/leg-BPakulski-JeffLong-calves.jpg)

I cant decide who has the best calves. Pukulski has the edge in shock value but the sabre tooth tiger has it on insertions.
Looks like they're taking a piss here....
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 30, 2011, 10:56:15 AM
Remember this guy ?

Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Parker on August 30, 2011, 11:14:50 AM
was mm one of the first big users of seo's?
(http://www.musclesprod.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/MikeMatarazzo-MMI-Unk-508-300x294.jpg)
MM's father had bigger calves than he did, he said so...and then there was a pic of him and his father gutting fish (Flex,The Big Picture), and his father's calves were HUGE...

Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 30, 2011, 11:16:40 AM
MM's father had bigger calves than he did, he said so...and then there was a pic of him and his father gutting fish (Flex,The Big Picture), and his father's calves were HUGE...


And Mike didn't train his calves at all, only some stretching. Only for photoshoots, the lucky bastard..
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: BiGHer on August 30, 2011, 11:18:07 AM
Yes, I saw Fankhouser and Pakulski's in person and they are not Calves, they are COWS.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Parker on August 30, 2011, 11:20:43 AM
:D
(http://pic30.picturetrail.com/VOL1563/9225083/17023908/263508415.jpg)
Is that "Twizzler Boy"?
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 30, 2011, 11:21:56 AM
:D
(http://pic30.picturetrail.com/VOL1563/9225083/17023908/263508415.jpg)
Looks filthy...
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Sam on August 30, 2011, 11:34:01 AM
Is that "Twizzler Boy"?

Its Micheal Lockett  :D
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Parker on August 30, 2011, 11:38:29 AM
Its Micheal Lockett  :D
Yep, Twizzler Boy
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: apply85 on August 30, 2011, 11:39:54 AM
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=270683&d=1137837693)

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c52/FlangMasterJ/moooooo.jpg)


(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/131/images/priest80.jpg)

Hope these worked, couldnt find a really good pic of lee's calves from the back, but basically these are perfect calves, not too big and nice and nice shape, well proportioned and bring out the legs as a whole
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: MAXX on August 30, 2011, 11:46:13 AM
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/deetrakt/LEG/leg-BPakulski-JeffLong-calves.jpg)

I cant decide who has the best calves. Pukulski has the edge in shock value but the sabre tooth tiger has it on insertions.
Yes pretty much. Pakulski has more developed calves there but the other guy has better potential since his insertions are lower thus making it possible for bigger fuller calves. But I dont think he trains them that much since it would look unproportionate.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 30, 2011, 02:14:39 PM
def NOT

I would say he's up there
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 30, 2011, 02:17:16 PM
Retired
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Parker on August 30, 2011, 02:21:25 PM
Yes pretty much. Pakulski has more developed calves there but the other guy has better potential since his insertions are lower thus making it possible for bigger fuller calves. But I dont think he trains them that much since it would look unproportionate.
Ben is also closer to the camera, you can see Erik is more in the background...I give edge to Erik "House"

I hope Erik comes into his own this coming yr.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: apply85 on August 30, 2011, 03:03:36 PM
Is that oil in dorian's bis?
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 30, 2011, 03:09:30 PM
Is that oil in dorian's bis?

Nope , this is what oil in the biceps looks like
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on August 30, 2011, 03:29:03 PM
Nope , this is what oil in the biceps looks like

ND do you know from which contest the pic. on the right is??.. why did he inject oil in them they didn't look very bad before!!.. i read in flex that he injected synthole in his triceps and was going to die because he injected it by mistake in his blood or something like this!!.. and yes his tris were weak but his biceps were ok so i am wondering why!!..
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 30, 2011, 03:44:57 PM
ND do you know from which contest the pic. on the right is??.. why did he inject oil in them they didn't look very bad before!!.. i read in flex that he injected synthole in his triceps and was going to die because he injected it by mistake in his blood or something like this!!.. and yes his tris were weak but his biceps were ok so i am wondering why!!..

I believe it's from 1998 or 1999 Olympia , they didn't look bad but his arms seemed to lag behind his lower body and he wanted to even his physique out.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: ARNIE1947 on August 30, 2011, 07:21:51 PM
 8)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: jude2 on August 30, 2011, 07:58:17 PM
Arnold looked so badass when he was on full blast.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Iceman1981 on August 30, 2011, 08:08:04 PM
Louie's calves at the 92 O.... ::)

That's 93'
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: quadzilla456 on August 30, 2011, 08:30:30 PM
MM's father had bigger calves than he did, he said so...and then there was a pic of him and his father gutting fish (Flex,The Big Picture), and his father's calves were HUGE...


Anyone have pictures of Matarazzo's dad's calves?
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: quadzilla456 on August 30, 2011, 08:32:32 PM
best calves in bodybuild history belong to mike matarazza,, when taking everything to consideration ,, both sheer size and shape,, and over all the balance and symetry ,,the diamond shape ,, and the products used,,

ben plupsosky is all insulina and gh ,, same for kuklo the kid,,  matarazza was more aas and gh ....big diff,, his calves are stil number one in the history of bodybuild,, again calves are genetic and nothing you can do about it other than  seo which is dumb to do now day because....mr o 2008 had no special calves.... you can get to top with no calves see denise wolfe,, really today it dont count ,,back in the 80s and 90s yes ...today you dont need no calves

gh15 approved

I spoke with a Pro who saw Matarazzo and Yates side by side in person. This was around 1993-1994. He said Dorian's calves dominated.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Nirvana on August 30, 2011, 08:38:44 PM
I check under my bed each night for mike matarazzos calves.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 30, 2011, 10:46:08 PM
I check under my bed each night for mike matarazzos calves.

Mike Matarazzo's calves ate a jar of peanut butter every night while Mike himself was sound to sleep.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Parker on August 30, 2011, 10:48:34 PM
Anyone have pictures of Matarazzo's dad's calves?
Ask ND if he can post the shot from Flex Magazine's Big Picture...his father is not flexing, he's standing gutting a fish, and he's wearing glasses...
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: the_swami on August 30, 2011, 10:58:57 PM
the 90's were indeed the GOlden era of BB

some of the best calves ever- DOrian, Nasser
THese black BB's also had great calves- DIllet, V taylor, SHawn and Aaron Baker

Platz also had great calves to go with the freaky upper legs

roger stewart also had a great set of calves
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Super Natural on August 31, 2011, 01:25:58 AM
All genetics!
   
This is my mates calves - not bad for an amateur. Like all these guys with good calf genetics, he hardly trains them (it's freaky how low the calves attach on these guys legs)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: kimo on April 11, 2012, 08:31:34 AM
yes good . calves for all the fanfare about his symmetry oliva calves were not that great . waller calves were complete calves .
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: wes on April 11, 2012, 08:50:30 AM
(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/1/b/1b7b6_ORIG-asCalf2_1_.jpg)

(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/350x0/3/a//3a45e_ORIG-arnold_calves.jpg)

(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/350x0/2/d//2da8a_ORIG-ar59.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Nasty Nate on April 11, 2012, 10:19:20 AM
big calves are just a cool show piece. theyre the least important muscle when it comes to how well you place imo
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: GraniteCityDon on April 11, 2012, 10:25:41 AM
I recall Milos nearly killing himself after injecting synthol into his vein, & during the 99 NOC his arms looked so bad i think he was relegated to 5th but was good enough for top 3 otherwise.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: funk51 on April 11, 2012, 10:29:13 AM
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/attachment-116.jpg?t=1273867935)

Ben Pakulski, Jeff long & Erik

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/deetrakt/LEG/leg-BPakulski-JeffLong-calves.jpg)
the old master.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: Jaime on April 11, 2012, 11:03:19 AM
I think we are agreeing here though it sounds like we are at odds.

I think Zane is probably the greatest bodybuilder of them all.

Why? Because he worked towards aesthetics. Consistently. He never fell for the size trap.

A bodybuilder is not a bodybuilder but just a thug if he is unaware of the limtis of size for his own particular frame. Once you go beyond that limit - for your frame - you are no longer a bodybuilder.


Good post broski.
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: NeoSeminole on April 11, 2012, 11:12:12 AM
best calves right now? I would say Ben
Title: Re: Are these the best calves in BB right now?
Post by: NeoSeminole on April 11, 2012, 11:13:39 AM
on the far left. Erik is in the middle