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Title: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2011, 05:00:55 PM
Standing order....

newt... bachmann... MITT  PERRY PAUL ... everyone else.


ron paul has been running that "perry worked to elect al gore" commercial at 755 pm.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2011, 05:05:52 PM
Rick Perry asked about his jobs record... he claims the facts are wrong.  he stuttered twice.  he's working to be dignified.  very stiff, not so down-south.  acting like a national candidate, which is good for him.   He immediately diverted convo to slashing taxes.  

Mitt was asked about his 47th in job creation, and showed his private sector experience as a 'buyout specialist'... Mitt said perry's team isn't accurate with their claims.  Defends his actions, said he turned around job losses in mass.  He started attacking obama.  Then, reverted to "i will slash taxes" just like perry lol... Romeny asked about bain capital - his company - which buys, fires, and resells firms.  Romney claimed he didn't do this.  "They didn't all work!"  he admitted.  

Perry said ROmney is great in business - but a failure in govt.  TX created more jobs in 3 months than Romney did in 4 years.   Romney defended it by pointing out TX HAS OIL AND GAS IN THE GROUND!   But but getbiggers say that's not relevant?  lol

No softball Questions tonight!!
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2011, 05:10:23 PM
Perry: "Michael Dukakis created jobs 3x faster than you did, Mitt."

Mitt: "Bush created jobs at a faster rate than you did, Gov Perry!"

Oh boy, here we go... It's 2008 all over again.  Frontrunners Mitta nd Rudy ripping each other up, getting snippity.  Which of the other calm and collected POSITIVE candidates will slip in as the grownup in the room?  perry and romney both looking miffed at each other already!
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2011, 05:14:36 PM
Huntsmann attacking romney on China...
You can't solve this problem with trade wars - I will go to china and speak to the people of chinese in their native language about solving this so that we don't go down this damaging path.

"As governor of utah, no offense to mitt and perry - we were the #1 PRODUCER OF JOBS IN THE COUNTRY!  We had twice as much as you perry, and mitt, 47th in the nation is nothing to be proud about!"
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2011, 05:17:21 PM
bachmann looking highly professiona - immediatel pointing out "i'm a mom with 5 biological kids and 23 foster kids"....

then she attacked obamacare.

Ron Paul... standing right next to perry...
asked about national regulation on safety items.
"Free market - you don't need govt to regulate everyting".

he attacked the bailouts.  crowd liked it.
brian willings (NBC) got pissed.

He's immediately attacking the drug companies - saying the Lobbyists from the drug industry are running all the regulations.


Audience applauded rpaul - first time of the night.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2011, 05:50:22 PM
Perry attacking karl rove... "He's been over the top for quite a while now".

Dodged Q about his book where he shits on social security.  Wouldn't do it tonight.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: garebear on September 07, 2011, 05:58:31 PM
Perry says cancer is a ponzi scheme!
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Fury on September 07, 2011, 06:01:20 PM
Got to give Cain props for his response on personal retirement accounts like Chile.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: garebear on September 07, 2011, 06:02:38 PM
I saw Cain eating pizza when he thought he was off camera.

He won't give the crusts to the poor because that's socialism.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Fury on September 07, 2011, 06:04:00 PM
Do you realize that you're not at all funny? You try way too hard. Understandable given that it's probably a struggle for you just to coherently string some words together.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2011, 06:04:36 PM
Got to give Cain props for his response on personal retirement accounts like Chile.

Cain looks good.   Huntsman moving up tonight. 
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2011, 06:05:56 PM
Bachmann getting screwed out of time. 
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2011, 06:06:25 PM
Bachmann getting screwed out of time. 

yep
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: garebear on September 07, 2011, 06:06:59 PM
Bachmann getting screwed out of time. 
All that she ever has to say is that Obamacare sucks.

OK. We get that she doesn't like it, but that's all she has to say.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: headhuntersix on September 07, 2011, 06:07:12 PM
Do nit question his instincts. Perry has been forced to be on the defensive the whole time. The questions have all been about his record. Who thought having a white house mouth piece (politico) was a good idea.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2011, 06:11:31 PM
Romney looks good tonight too.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2011, 06:13:18 PM
Santorum is a fellow Wop Goombah.  I have to look at him more closely.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: headhuntersix on September 07, 2011, 06:14:15 PM
They all answered the immigration question pretty well. Each answer built off the next. Any sane person would realize that steps have to be taken. I like Rick but I don't think he can be elected. I think he's polished and does well.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: garebear on September 07, 2011, 06:15:18 PM
Romney looks good tonight too.
He's toast. He's already shown compassion for the poor, and Republicans just can't go for that shit.

Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: headhuntersix on September 07, 2011, 06:16:27 PM
Your such a shill.....
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: garebear on September 07, 2011, 06:17:05 PM
Is Huntsman even aware that he's in a Republican primary?
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: garebear on September 07, 2011, 06:17:48 PM
Your such a shill.....

You know you hate Romney for getting the poor insurance.

You can go ahead and say it, everybody already knows.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2011, 06:18:03 PM
All that she ever has to say is that Obamacare sucks.

OK. We get that she doesn't like it, but that's all she has to say.

They are now starting bachmann's questions with "let's assume we have $2 gasoline and obamacare is removed..."

That's all her ass keeps talking about.  Sheesh.  Answer the Qs.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: headhuntersix on September 07, 2011, 06:23:17 PM
You know you hate Romney for getting the poor insurance.

You can go ahead and say it, everybody already knows.

It has damaged Mass...and hurt the state. But oh yeah I'm from Mass and have heard it first hand from all my relatives. Please pack faster.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2011, 06:23:59 PM
Mitt Claims to be a member of the tea party


tee hee.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: garebear on September 07, 2011, 06:24:51 PM
It has damaged Mass...and hurt the state. But oh yeah I'm from Mass and have heard it first hand from all my relatives. Please pack faster.
;D Makes no difference how fast I pack.

I can vote from anywhere in the world. I've done it before. Not even hard.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: headhuntersix on September 07, 2011, 06:25:46 PM
Yeah..u can vote guilt free, while the rest of us suffer under the douchbag n chief.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: headhuntersix on September 07, 2011, 06:37:31 PM
Huntsman had a shot to take down some of his competitors and side stepped it.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2011, 06:41:36 PM
Huntsman had a shot to take down some of his competitors and side stepped it.

it wouldn't have been classy to point out the 4 or 5 idiots on the stage who think the planet is 6,000 years old.

And he's a classy dude.



newt is pwning everyone onstage the moment he speaks, and they're barely letting him speak.  bachmann treading water tonight.  Mitt is reserved but doing well.  perry is a lot different now than 90 minutes ago... pausing to think, etc.  Huntsman looking official and presidential.  the others aren't gettint much talk time.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: headhuntersix on September 07, 2011, 06:50:39 PM
Pausing to think isnt bad...especially with all the prep they have crammed at them. Newt is the smartest guy there, he's just not electable. He was very polished.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2011, 06:53:12 PM
Newt would have obama in tears begging for his binky.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Skip8282 on September 07, 2011, 07:03:53 PM
Newt and Huntsman sounded decent, RP seems to have really tripped up on the FDA question, Perry - blah, Cain sounded good, Bachman - blah. 

Hate Santorum so my ears block out any sound coming from his mouth.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2011, 07:05:53 PM
Pausing to think isnt bad...especially with all the prep they have crammed at them.

eh, it wasn't so much pausing to think, as pausing to create policy in his head at the moment.  he claimed scientists have proven global warming isn't manmade.  then he couldn't name any scientists or info he's learned.  THEN in the next sentence, he was discounting the importance of scientists.   After HE brought them up!
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2011, 07:06:32 PM
Newt and Huntsman sounded decent, RP seems to have really tripped up on the FDA question, Perry - blah, Cain sounded good, Bachman - blah. 

Hate Santorum so my ears block out any sound coming from his mouth.


agreed on all counts tonight homie.

Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Skip8282 on September 07, 2011, 07:11:39 PM

agreed on all counts tonight homie.





brb, checking if Hell hath frozen over...
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2011, 07:17:04 PM


brb, checking if Hell hath frozen over...


we're like peas in a pod, man
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Skip8282 on September 07, 2011, 07:17:12 PM
The real question is did the public learn anything about the candidates?

Admittedly, I only watched portions in between other shit, but I can't say I learned anything we didn't see in the news or probably even talk about here on GB.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2011, 07:18:03 PM
Rick Perry asked about his jobs record... he claims the facts are wrong.  he stuttered twice.  he's working to be dignified.  very stiff, not so down-south.  acting like a national candidate, which is good for him.   He immediately diverted convo to slashing taxes.  

Mitt was asked about his 47th in job creation, and showed his private sector experience as a 'buyout specialist'... Mitt said perry's team isn't accurate with their claims.  Defends his actions, said he turned around job losses in mass.  He started attacking obama.  Then, reverted to "i will slash taxes" just like perry lol... Romeny asked about bain capital - his company - which buys, fires, and resells firms.  Romney claimed he didn't do this.  "They didn't all work!"  he admitted.  

Perry said ROmney is great in business - but a failure in govt.  TX created more jobs in 3 months than Romney did in 4 years.   Romney defended it by pointing out TX HAS OIL AND GAS IN THE GROUND!   But but getbiggers say that's not relevant?  lol

No softball Questions tonight!!
MSNBC does A LOT better asking tougher questions than the other networks.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2011, 07:24:15 PM
MSNBC does A LOT better asking tougher questions than the other networks.

Well, yes and no.

The CNN debates ripped apart the dems in 2008, while msnbc was more gentle on them.

NBC is going to actually ask the repubs candidates about their insane statements and contradictions, taht they dodge everywhere else.  At least the nation will have to see them dodge.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Skip8282 on September 07, 2011, 07:28:13 PM
MSNBC does A LOT better asking tougher questions than the other networks.


Seemed to me that they were just trying to play one against the other, like "Hey, Newt said blah, blah in 1985...what do you think about that Mr. Cain?".


Tough questions would have been why are block grants better than Obamacare?  What does "state creativity" mean?  What are specific examples of successfully applied block grant creativity? etc.,
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2011, 07:29:57 PM
Well, yes and no.

The CNN debates ripped apart the dems in 2008, while msnbc was more gentle on them.

NBC is going to actually ask the repubs candidates about their insane statements and contradictions, taht they dodge everywhere else.  At least the nation will have to see them dodge.
I agree.  I still think the whole format of these debates is shit.  Let them have a real public Debate where they all go at it back and forth like Lincoln-Douglas.  This is all horseshit.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2011, 07:33:20 PM
I really like Cain.  Common sense through and through.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 07, 2011, 07:39:56 PM
what did you guys think of Perry promoting the use of predator drones over America along the border?
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: GigantorX on September 07, 2011, 07:44:45 PM
I agree.  I still think the whole format of these debates is shit.  Let them have a real public Debate where they all go at it back and forth like Lincoln-Douglas.  This is all horseshit.

Yep. Enough of this sound-bite bullshit and the media circus/spin after every debate that's filled with networks taking things out of context, spinning, protecting and attacking.

It's lame and it doesn't let any candidate really debate anything or really answer any questions or really stake out any territory.

The "moderators" have far, far to much power and they def. have a fucking agenda.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2011, 07:46:26 PM
what did you guys think of Perry promoting the use of predator drones over America along the border?

He is my least fav but drones are ok by me if we are not going to put a fence wall or troops on the ground.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 07, 2011, 07:52:36 PM
He is my least fav but drones are ok by me if we are not going to put a fence wall or troops on the ground.
I'm not really sure I like the idea of using predator drones.  The border needs to be secured but if you use pradator drones to enforce laws in on area there's really nothing to stop using them in other areas.  Kind of creepy to think that one day predator drones could be crusing all around America for different reasons..  Seems there are enough traditional ways to secure the border that they could focus on and make work if they wanted to.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2011, 07:56:49 PM
I'm not really sure I like the idea of using predator drones.  The border needs to be secured but if you use pradator drones to enforce laws in on area there's really nothing to stop using them in other areas.  Kind of creepy to think that one day predator drones could be crusing all around America for different reasons..  Seems there are enough traditional ways to secure the border that they could focus on and make work if they wanted to.

Thats why I prefer a fence and boots on the ground, along w turrets, mines, strategically placed dens of poisonous snakes and spiders, snipers, and IEDs
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 07, 2011, 07:57:01 PM
What are the odds Bachman was in a business, talking to the owner about having to let people go because of Obama care when a 17 yr old walked in and asked for a job.....?

I guess she does think we are that stupid..
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2011, 07:59:08 PM
What are the odds Bachman was in a business, talking to the owner about having to let people go because of Obama care when a 17 yr old walked in and asked for a job.....?

I guess she does think we are that stupid..

WTF?  You are a public sector worker and CLUELESS on economics.  Obamace is a fcking disaster.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 07, 2011, 08:00:19 PM
WTF?  You are a public sector worker and CLUELESS on economics.  Obamace is a fcking disaster.

I agree it is not a good thing. But her story was made up to pander to the audience.. never happened.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Skip8282 on September 07, 2011, 08:00:53 PM
I'm not really sure I like the idea of using predator drones.  The border needs to be secured but if you use pradator drones to enforce laws in on area there's really nothing to stop using them in other areas.  Kind of creepy to think that one day predator drones could be crusing all around America for different reasons..  Seems there are enough traditional ways to secure the border that they could focus on and make work if they wanted to.



Yeah, I heard RP say that but I'm not buying it.  Let's say for the sake of argument that somebody wants to start using them on us.  They could just as easily claim it's for "safety and security" as easily as they could claim, "well, we're watching the border so it's ok".

In fact, if I had to venture a guess, I'd say that we'll probably hear the "safety and security" argument first - just as soon as the price gets down to a point where some police department can afford one (may have already happened for all I know).
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 07, 2011, 08:01:21 PM
WTF?  You are a public sector worker and CLUELESS on economics.  Obamace is a fcking disaster.

Temper your hatred of me long enough to actually read my posts.. might even change your opinion..
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2011, 08:07:25 PM
I like you but gmafb - obamacare is a death sentence to the private sector.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: GigantorX on September 07, 2011, 08:07:45 PM
Temper your hatred of me long enough to actually read my posts.. might even change your opinion..

STFU YOU POFS COMMIE ASSHOLE.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2011, 08:10:21 PM
I really like Cain.  Common sense through and through.

best man onstage.  will get nowhere, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2011, 08:11:40 PM
He is my least fav but drones are ok by me if we are not going to put a fence wall or troops on the ground.

33,

Would you be okay with OBAMA using drones to "monitor" american cities?

methinks if Obama had predators "monitoring" the NY skylines to keep us safe, you'd be shitting your pants in anger.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2011, 08:13:07 PM
mitt wanted a wall.  then, when reminded it would be 2600 miles, he backtracked.  then he explained that any wall can be beat with a ladder.

still, just like in 2008, he's eager to please everyone and juuuust a little too quick to answer on impulse.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 07, 2011, 10:15:25 PM
STFU YOU POFS COMMIE ASSHOLE.

nice....... typical right winger response..
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: GigantorX on September 08, 2011, 06:25:38 AM
nice....... typical right winger response..

That one went right over your head.
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2011, 06:26:35 AM
That one went right over your head.

Most liberals are very touchy and sensitive over the "C" word. 
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: dario73 on September 08, 2011, 06:27:17 AM
nice....... typical right winger response..

Just a few days ago a left wing nutjob called the GOP "sons of bitches".
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 08, 2011, 07:42:30 AM
Just a few days ago a left wing nutjob called the GOP "sons of bitches".

and?...
Title: Re: Republican Debate - MSNBC - 8 pm EST - Starting now...
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 08, 2011, 07:44:14 AM
That one went right over your head.

Sorry  ;)