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Title: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Stormcloud on September 18, 2011, 11:07:10 PM


At the Olympia seminar, Jay avoided the question if he was going to come back next year to compete in the Mr. O.   He won't.  He is just waiting until after the show in India to announce he is going out close to the top. 

   
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Tony Doherty on September 18, 2011, 11:32:14 PM
I got the same feeling. I posted it last week and post dissapeared.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Dorian01 on September 19, 2011, 12:10:38 AM
They often feel non-committal after just having gone through the ordeal.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Boost on September 19, 2011, 12:14:39 AM
I'm surprised people even want to see him on stage again....

His waist isn't getting smaller, he can't bring up his weak quad or repair his horribly asymmetrical back.

Jay retiring would be excellent for he future of bodybuilding. Him and Kai are the last of the true "Mass monsters"

Let us usher in a new era, small waists, incredible detail and flawless conditioning.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: 20inch calves on September 19, 2011, 12:21:14 AM
I'm surprised people even want to see him on stage again....

His waist isn't getting smaller, he can't bring up his weak quad or repair his horribly asymmetrical back.

Jay retiring would be excellent for he future of bodybuilding. Him and Kai are the last of the true "Mass monsters"

Let us usher in a new era, small waists, incredible detail and flawless conditioning.

 ::)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: kiwiol on September 19, 2011, 12:22:35 AM
When asked in the press conference, he said he was worrying about this year's Mr Olympia and not thinking about 2012, which makes sense given the injury and all.

Like someone said before, Jay does better when he's the underdog, so he could come back and win the Olympia IF he fixes the atrophy in his upper and lower body (left and right side) and looks like he did in 2009. If he can't fix it, which seems more probable, he's only going to slide down the ranks further. Shame how he looked better than ever in the precontest pics & clips but looked the exact opposite on stage.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: 20inch calves on September 19, 2011, 12:27:30 AM
When asked in the press conference, he said he was worrying about this year's Mr Olympia and not thinking about 2012, which makes sense given the injury and all.

Like someone said before, Jay does better when he's the underdog, so he could come back and win the Olympia IF he fixes the atrophy in his upper and lower body (left and right side) and looks like he did in 2009. If he can't fix it, which seems more probable, he's only going to slide down the ranks further. Shame how he looked better than ever in the precontest pics & clips but looked the exact opposite on stage.

everyone wrote him off after he lost to dexter and look at what he did..so i am not going to. IF he comes back i am sure he will be 100% better. i don;t think he would take the risk of losing again if he didn;t think he could win it.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: kiwiol on September 19, 2011, 12:32:35 AM
everyone wrote him off after he lost to dexter and look at what he did..so i am not going to. IF he comes back i am sure he will be 100% better. i don;t think he would take the risk of losing again if he didn;t think he could win it.

2008 was different, he just wasn't conditioned enough to win. He didn't have the atrophy in his upper body on the left side back then like he does now. Which is why I think it's going to be near impossible for him to correct it. His leg imbalance does take away from his looks, but nowhere near what the upper body now does.

Looks the same as Ronnie did in 2006. Then he came back in 2007 looking worse, which is what I think will happen to Jay if he tries.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: 20inch calves on September 19, 2011, 12:39:38 AM
2008 was different, he just wasn't conditioned enough to win. He didn't have the atrophy in his upper body on the left side back then like he does now. Which is why I think it's going to be near impossible for him to correct it. His leg imbalance does take away from his looks, but nowhere near what the upper body now does.

Looks the same as Ronnie did in 2006. Then he came back in 2007 looking worse, which is what I think will happen to Jay if he tries.

i am sorry but you are wrong. i remember that he was going to thearapy ect to fix his atrophy back then.  he came back and won it the next year.so he has had this issue in the past. i think it was more of a water issue. if you are flat.. your legs are going to be and if you have a smaller leg or side it is going to look ALOT worse when you are flat
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: kiwiol on September 19, 2011, 12:50:21 AM
i am sorry but you are wrong. i remember that he was going to thearapy ect to fix his atrophy back then.  he came back and won it the next year.so he has had this issue in the past. i think it was more of a water issue. if you are flat.. your legs are going to be and if you have a smaller leg or side it is going to look ALOT worse when you are flat

I have no problem with him winning if he deserves it. But if you look at pics or videos of say 2009 and this year, you'll notice the atrophy on his upper body is quite severe. He's never had that before. His left delt sits lower than his right in his "relaxed" stance and is closer to his midline, making his left chest look only about 70-80% of his right. It's also affected his arm and his back.

If he can fix that and get back to his 2009 shape or close, it's a done deal, but I don't see it happening.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/S0eHR8zsoyI/AAAAAAAAFIc/IOVLDrvWLIM/s400/Jay+Cutler+Mr+Olympia+2009+-+www.musclebase.blogspot.com+03.JPG)(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FWugZWfthEQ/TnW6d6REB7I/AAAAAAAAW9A/SoGpYD6N8kw/s1600/img_94651316239210.jpg)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: KevinP85 on September 19, 2011, 01:07:45 AM
Also 2008 and 2009 is two years/three years ago. Coming in 2012 jay is older and Phil is not Dex, Phil is young, improving in every show and has beaten Jay. IMO, jay will NEVER beat Phil again and most likely retire. The teacher to the apprentice in full effect.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: gh15 on September 19, 2011, 01:43:04 AM
you dont seem to understand he fucked up his diuretic ,, and seo

what jason tried to do was to COME IN SUPERIOR SHAPE THAT NO ONE EVER SEEN HIM AT...AND HE SURE HAVE SOME VEINS SHOWING ....EVEN BETTER THAN IT WAS IN 2009 ...BUT! HE FUCKED UP DIUREITC AND SITE INJECT  WITH BOTH SMOOTHEN HIM UP AND GAVE HIM A BRUISE BIG AS SBRUISE ON ARM...YOU CANT WIN LIKE THIS,,,HE IS STILL MUCH BETTER THAN ANYONE ON THAT STAGE,,

I SAID IT MILLION TIMES BEFORE FRIENDS,, IF YOU ARE AN IFBB PROFESIONAL AND YOU READ GH15 AND ALL OF THEM READ ME,,IF YOU ADOPT MY RECOMENDATIONS AND TRY TO BRING CONDITION BACK INTO PICTURE...YOU HAVE TO NAIL THE DRUGS RIGHT,, YES THAT INCLUDE DIURETIC

jason cutler still! can win o ....
bodybuilding is a very diff cult now days,,it is bunch of guru that have realy ,, never really did anything on competetive stage and learned everything from working with npc fellas and expriemtngin on them ....there is a big drug connection hooks and philsulina has the same chef jason has : ) so now one screw his vials....he got the exact same personal chef

it is jason who stood and stood and stood and stood and give pictures to kids and more and more and talk to every geezer that come next to him ,, he just too nice to be true,,fella just had too much going  to nail this one,,

im telling you how jason is ,, i know the fella... he is extremly nice person ,,very take it east,,HIGHLY SENSETIVE,,you can only take so much ...he been in the top for very long time as runner up and as mr o for 4-5 years,, he always say stupid yes to everyone who wants something from him,,hes a good fella...but sometime you got to be on 100% with everything concerning the competition especialy when you are 38 and white average genetic fella

one of the nicest bodybuiulders ever,,would stand there like a moron for HOURS until everyone asked anythign they wanted to ask ,, ill be damn if he didnt do it also back in the 90s,, he did same damn thing,, was standing there until the last of the last whomever had their question asked,,always smiling ,, always take picture always give comliments even if the fellas have half ass phsyiqes,,hes a good fella

gh15 approved

Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: kiwiol on September 19, 2011, 02:03:17 AM
gh15, what's happening with his left shoulder?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Dr Dutch on September 19, 2011, 02:05:07 AM
I'm surprised people even want to see him on stage again....

Jay retiring would be excellent for he future of bodybuilding. Him and Kai are the last of the true "Mass monsters"

Don't forget T rex...
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: vic86 on September 19, 2011, 02:11:04 AM
We warmly welcome Jay Cutler,but there are lot of fakes who will be hovering around him ,sure that will be an experience for him as well how some of the folkes are here like. :)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Dr Dutch on September 19, 2011, 02:15:26 AM
Maybe he should stay in India, become a Hare Krishna and meditate until his comeback at the 2018 Olympia.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Secret Stack on September 19, 2011, 06:29:20 AM
I got the same feeling. I posted it last week and post dissapeared.

that would be musclecenter. dont take it personally. he deletes alot of posts that are not harmful because of his english. he probably read it "jay cutler is going to be retarded after india"  ???
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: 240 is Back on September 19, 2011, 06:31:00 AM
Dubai
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: MikMaq on September 19, 2011, 06:35:45 AM
everyone wrote him off after he lost to dexter and look at what he did..so i am not going to. IF he comes back i am sure he will be 100% better. i don;t think he would take the risk of losing again if he didn;t think he could win it.
The difference is he's an established aging champ now, it  makes no sense to risk a solid legacy, by trying to make a come back, especially when the powers at be are showing a preference for a guy who's your polar opposite physique wise.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Ron on September 19, 2011, 06:41:58 AM

You never know ....

Jay Cutler Enterprises is one of the highest revenues in bodybuilding.  Prize money, Muscletech and other contracts, apperance fees, clothing and other item revenue, and many others.   Over a million a year, maybe a lot more. 

You need to think about that in 2012....

But yes, can Jay Cutler come back against a powerful Phil Heath who is younger and just beginning to mature in his muscles.


Did he make his decision yet? Who knows? 

Let's wait until after India to see...
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: G_Thang on September 19, 2011, 06:42:28 AM
you dont seem to understand he fucked up his diuretic ,, and seo
gh15 approved



cut the BS, asswipe.  jay will get no better than ronnie did after 2006. on top of that, he isn't blessed with ronnie's genetics. in fact it is down hill for him.  he broke down just like yates.  phil and kai (maybe slightly if he gets his condition right) will improve again in 2012.  it looks like vic is getting it together again.  wolfe just fucking needs to lift the appropriate weight for a man of his stature.  jay didn't place 2nd, he was 5th or 6th.  that's a mega fall.  fucking diuretics?  get the fuck out of here.  his shoulder is damaged along with his right quad. and the bicep won't get better.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: d0nny2600 on September 19, 2011, 06:43:24 AM

what jason tried to do was to COME IN SUPERIOR SHAPE THAT NO ONE EVER SEEN HIM AT...AND HE SURE HAVE SOME VEINS SHOWING ....EVEN BETTER THAN IT WAS IN 2009 ...BUT! HE FUCKED UP DIUREITC AND SITE INJECT  WITH BOTH SMOOTHEN HIM UP AND GAVE HIM A BRUISE BIG AS SBRUISE ON ARM...YOU CANT WIN LIKE THIS,,,HE IS STILL MUCH BETTER THAN ANYONE ON THAT STAGE,,

This. It was a last minute fuck up. An in shape Cutler without the bicep issue still beats the blow up doll. He will most likely return in close to 2009 shape and win. That arm is going to be fucked for a few weeks. It will heal, he will get better and start working on next year. He is a far better ambassador for the sport than that clown Heath.

Everyone saying "OMG he uses synthol" blah blah. All of them use seo. His body rejected it. Could happen to anyone. Look at Iris Kyle - same thing happened to her. He was full with water which fucked up his waist.

In fairness though - if he had turned up in condition without the arm and won then nobody would even be talking about the Olympia now. At least it brought some interest to the drug cult.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: G_Thang on September 19, 2011, 06:47:00 AM
This. It was a last minute fuck up. An in shape Cutler without the bicep issue still beats the blow up doll. He will most likely return in close to 2009 shape and win.
That arm is going to be fucked for a few weeks. It will heal, he will get better and start working on next year. He is a far better ambassador for the sport than that clown Heath.

Everyone saying "OMG he uses synthol" blah blah. All of them use seo. His body rejected it. Could happen to anyone. Look at Iris Kyle - same thing happened to her. He was full with water which fucked up his waist.

In fairness though - if he had turned up in condition without the arm and won then nobody would even be talking about the Olympia now. At least it brought some interest to the drug cult.

i guess his right quad and shoulder will repair while he is in REM sleep recuperating from the day's activities.   

Yates and Ronnie broke down.  Now, your hero has. 

If he was a clear 2nd, I'd say otherwise, but he was more like 5 or 6th in a weak lineup.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: d0nny2600 on September 19, 2011, 06:47:50 AM
i guess his right quad and shoulder will repair while he is in REM sleep recuperating from the day's activities.   

Yates and Ronnie broke down.  Now, your hero has. 

If he was a clear 2nd, I'd say otherwise, but he was more like 5 or 6th in a weak lineup.
lol hero? I don't like Cutler.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: G_Thang on September 19, 2011, 06:51:55 AM
lol hero? I don't like Cutler.

GH15 stuff is full of BS because he doesn't like Phil, or phil is doing something he couldn't with less size and structure.

I'm not a phil fan, but his reign has begun.  I always thought it would be 2012 or 13.

Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: bigmikecox on September 19, 2011, 06:53:31 AM
I think it also depends on his contracts. I think he will be competing until they all expire. Why would he turn his back on that income.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: d0nny2600 on September 19, 2011, 07:03:58 AM
GH15 stuff is full of BS because he doesn't like Phil, or phil is doing something he couldn't with less size and structure.

I'm not a phil fan, but his reign has begun.  I always thought it would be 2012 or 13.


I agree. I don't like Phil at all. I don't like Cutler. I would like if Wolf had calves and a lower back but that isn't going to happen either. The reality is most of the guys on stage now are not very good. The abuse of hormones,oil and diuretics is clear. None of them would even come close to a prime Coleman.

I know all of them abuse but for someone like Coleman it worked - these guys are still chasing that.

Have a look at some of the European shows and look at the quality of them.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Nails on September 19, 2011, 04:48:13 PM
I will go for @ least 3 more yrs, I will be 35 then, its about being the best for me and will do what I need to do to get there, but stay healthy doing so... I am not tapped out yet guys, trust me. I have a lot to give to the bodybuilding world still. Thanks for the support.
 
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: jude2 on September 19, 2011, 05:37:57 PM
He could win the Arnold, because I don't see Phil doing it.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: titusisback on September 19, 2011, 07:08:38 PM
Let's wait until after India to see...

Dubai, India is a very integral part of pro bodybuilding and it only makes sense that Jay announces his decision from there.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: delta9mda on September 19, 2011, 07:13:33 PM
Jay's upper body has not atrophied, he was down in size from previous years. this year he was 258 or there about. that is a small Jay. of course things are going to look smaller. fools.

a prime Jay can come back and take out Phil.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Agent69 on September 19, 2011, 08:11:59 PM
jay aint retiring anytime soon certainly not in india-not until all his muscle tech contracts are redone...his current one is up very soon..he will resign with MT--and then he will c what he is doing-this my friends is right from the horses mouth..
the end
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: gh15 on September 19, 2011, 08:45:53 PM
2008 was different, he just wasn't conditioned enough to win. He didn't have the atrophy in his upper body on the left side back then like he does now. Which is why I think it's going to be near impossible for him to correct it. His leg imbalance does take away from his looks, but nowhere near what the upper body now does.

Looks the same as Ronnie did in 2006. Then he came back in 2007 looking worse, which is what I think will happen to Jay if he tries.

you better start being my pupil... because you are wrong,, quite few of your observation are wrong lately,,jason problem was diuretic and his seo site inject,, he tried to chase condition into the 80s....he cant do it ,, he is by far bigger than philsulina or anyother fella on that stage,, + he got the foundation ,, could win another o quite easily if does it all 100% like it should be done

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: gh15 on September 19, 2011, 08:52:03 PM
jay aint retiring anytime soon certainly not in india-not until all his muscle tech contracts are redone...his current one is up very soon..he will resign with MT--and then he will c what he is doing-this my friends is right from the horses mouth..
the end

he got to be crazy in the head to retire,, he is better than this mr o by quite a lot,, HE FUCKED UP  he knows it and you shoudl tell him that i said it too,,so much muscle and thats what he could bring? this was not on the money prep ,, shoudl regain title next time if done it 100%!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: calfzilla on September 19, 2011, 08:55:40 PM
gh15 do you have Jason Cutlers phone number?  If so did you call him to congratulate/console him?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: gh15 on September 19, 2011, 09:00:57 PM
cut the BS, asswipe.  jay will get no better than ronnie did after 2006. on top of that, he isn't blessed with ronnie's genetics. in fact it is down hill for him.  he broke down just like yates.  phil and kai (maybe slightly if he gets his condition right) will improve again in 2012.  it looks like vic is getting it together again.  wolfe just fucking needs to lift the appropriate weight for a man of his stature.  jay didn't place 2nd, he was 5th or 6th.  that's a mega fall.  fucking diuretics?  get the fuck out of here.  his shoulder is damaged along with his right quad. and the bicep won't get better.

there is nothing to cut,, jason was the same jason he fucked up diuretic and the seo was bad application ,, he is MUCH much bigger than philsulina when it come to lean muscle,, jason conditioned and 100 % on woudnt lose this,, its jason who lost this not philsulina who won it,, philsulina to be honest with you looked EXACTLY the same as always ...slight slight diff of bodyfat that was little lower while maintainign same condition ...which in result cause sthe 1-2 lb of lean muscle he put on ,, but! he is maxed,, he will never grow more than this ....UNLESS the gut grow tremendesly and it wont be a pretty site on philsulina since what comes to mind is ....marcus haily ...philsulina can not get any body part bigger than what he has now ...not even by 1/10 of an inch ,, he is maxed to the 10th degree ,,only way he will get bigger is by getting wider waist and with his calvicles it will look catastrophic so philsulina is doomed to remain this size for ever when mr o,,

jason can regain title quite easily,, what it takes it not bad application of seo ...it is to tighten up and not fuck diuretics...and come in haard tight and FULL,, for that you will have to do everything right....he can he done it before

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Disgusted on September 19, 2011, 09:01:02 PM
I will make a prediction, Jay will look his all time best this weekend. Not sure if they will let him beat Phil if he is better on that day.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: gh15 on September 19, 2011, 09:06:33 PM
I will make a prediction, Jay will look his all time best this weekend. Not sure if they will let him beat Phil if he is better on that day.

they wont let anyone beat the one who won mr o ,, no matter what,, it will be insult to the ifbb ,, also jason wont look his best ever because his best ever was 2001 and 2009 was ok good enough to win ,, what jason need to do is come next year...and compete,, come just like a regular fella ...he has much more than philsulina has...his muscles ...majority of it is solid foundation,,his muscle are not fake balonie,, the arms have some seo ...but over all everyone does it ...he just carry much more lean muscle than philsulina inaddition to him being OCEAN wide broader and wider than philsulina ,, its just not comparable...

he need to come tight hard dry and full,, he should be capable of doing it still,, it is not ron colman case with missing half body ....not the case here,, jason is still top bodybuilder,,you dont lose it because you come in off ....

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Viking11 on September 19, 2011, 09:07:22 PM
It almost was like he had a type of allergic reaction to the shot, and it bruised up and cause him to retain water all over....
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: gh15 on September 19, 2011, 09:20:21 PM
This. It was a last minute fuck up. An in shape Cutler without the bicep issue still beats the blow up doll. He will most likely return in close to 2009 shape and win. That arm is going to be fucked for a few weeks. It will heal, he will get better and start working on next year. He is a far better ambassador for the sport than that clown Heath.

Everyone saying "OMG he uses synthol" blah blah. All of them use seo. His body rejected it. Could happen to anyone. Look at Iris Kyle - same thing happened to her. He was full with water which fucked up his waist.

In fairness though - if he had turned up in condition without the arm and won then nobody would even be talking about the Olympia now. At least it brought some interest to the drug cult.


nonono,, philsulina is a smart fella,, he is good fella,, he is articulate ,, he is nice ,, he is respectful ,, he is not dumb he is smart fella,, dont mistake him for some moron ,, he is a good fella,, he will reprsent bodybuilding very well,,it has nothnig to do with winning shows...it has to do with being articulate and be able to go aroudn the world and talk to felas and just promote bodybuilding,, he can do it well,,

yes to the jason fuck up,, jason is a lot better than philsulina ,, its not comparable due to the lean muscle diff...what jason problem is is the game playing at the end with the seo....with the diuretic ...with the fact he wasnt 100% on ,, he tried to lose bodyfat to places you seen in 90s...he tried to really come 90s style but....he lost too much muscle on the way ...and when you lose too much muscle you look even worse...even if your bodyfat is real low.. you need to know how to get the right ratio of condition and size...it takes lots of knowing of your body,,

A WHITE FELLA CAN NOT EAT ONLY FISH AND RICE AND EXPECT TO TOP OF THE TOP CONDITION WHEN HE ALREADY BEEN TO HORMONES IN THE MAGALOMANIC DOSES,, AND WHEN HIS WAIST IS ALREADY BIG.... A WHITE FELLA NEED TO EAT WHAT HE ALWAYS EAT...AND JUST MAKE SURE THE DRUG INTAKE GO SAME OR HIGHER,,, ITS THE DRUGS! WHO DO THE JOB FOR A WHITE FELLA ...NO NOT THE INSULINA BUT THE ANABOLICS ...THEY DO THE JOB FOR A WHITE FELLA,, THE DIET SHOULD NOT BE FISH AND RICE ONLY ,, IT JUST WONT BE ENOUGH MUSCLE WHEN BODYFAT IS CUT INTO THE LOWERST LEVEL,,

food intake should be exactly what he did in past,,, the drug intake should increase! specific products like trenbolona should increase,, i mean INCREASE,, thats whats get white fella into squary mother fuckin sperated condition ,,then fill it up right and look full ,, dont rely on diuretic be ready when you get to the diuretic stage,,

jason could win next o with no problem if does it right

with jason TRENBOLONA ACE IS THE NAME OF THE GAME!  trenbolona ace is what give jason the mother fucking in your face lean and mean shredded peel look,, ofcourse other products too ,, but trenbolona high doses aHIGH FUCKIN DOSES ,, i dont give a fuck how much he cough in the bathroom on the toilet he spit saliva all day long i dont care,, make sure you dont hit vein then you wont have this caugh and if you do then deal with it its only 5 minutes,, high doses trenbolona! this on jason = another 1-2 mr o ,, i dont know what rambod think or does ,, it doesnt matter,, jason is better than rambod in bodybuild prep he done it alone all the time,, he need HIGHER DOSES TRENBOLONA ACE ,,philsulina can take trenbolonaace from morning to night wont matter jason carry much more lean muscle ,, if he bring it in sqaure and full ...the back wont look like it looked the wrinkles wil be there but the detail will be there too! every little bit of it...and if he doesnt hav egood middle back it will be dry and hard as a mother fucker ,,tight to the t ,, and he would win because no matter how well muscle bellie philsulina will look ...jason will surpass him on lean muscle tissue and hardness/dryness which = condition ...this would bring jason mr o ...not a higher fuckin peack from seo...or a overdose diuretic lasix application... or some stupid detailed line on the back,,, lines have place in bodybuild ....but! lean size! hardness! dryness! come first! thennnnn the lines wil be there wether you want it or not...and if you are bigger your lines can be worse and you will still win ....as long as you can bring same hardness driness and tightness as the other fella and you are bigggggggger ...you will win mr o ,,

bible index


gh15 approved
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Agent69 on September 19, 2011, 09:20:58 PM
he got to be crazy in the head to retire,, he is better than this mr o by quite a lot,, HE FUCKED UP  he knows it and you shoudl tell him that i said it too,,so much muscle and thats what he could bring? this was not on the money prep ,, shoudl regain title next time if done it 100%!

gh15 approved
I agree 100%
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: gh15 on September 19, 2011, 09:27:29 PM
It almost was like he had a type of allergic reaction to the shot, and it bruised up and cause him to retain water all over....

he did... this all weekend was one allergic thing for him ,, didnt you see he knew he wasnt on? all throgh wekend even that day in the press convference ...he wasnt all there,, he was out of it ,, he didnt have it going ,, was standing ther esmiling,, i told you in the past the fella is sensetive,, he is human ,, his dog died on him ,, i knew the moment i saw dog is passed that he woudnt come top to this mr o ,, he went on that dumb face book and posted that thing,, it mgith havebeen his wife or whomever but still ....for him to do this...i mean why woudl he write on face book that his dog died...only felas resally really sensetive woudl do it on a bodybuilding fuckin web page that he most likely dont even read cause who has the time to read face books he is nto from face book generation and even if he does it ..its not in his blood trust me on that ,, just does it due to the times we live in ,,

the fella just wasnt there,, you could tell it in his eyes ,, he was not there,, still nice as always but wasnt there

in bodybuilding...you better have EVERYTHING going right before comeptition otherwize...even if you are mr o you may screw up,, and he scrw up with the drugs ...his condition was pretty good before the screw up eventhough everything that was going on ...but! you cant screw on drugs at the final end ,,cant ,, you got to be dumb to not see that he knew HE KNEW he lost it before he even went on stage,,

philsulina did not win it...its jason who lost it,, i would trell you if i thought philsulina won it ,, he did not

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: bike nut on September 19, 2011, 09:27:38 PM
I agree too...take a month off to recharge his batteries and come back next year with a vengeance.

And move the Olympia to a better location/venue.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: jude2 on September 19, 2011, 09:29:43 PM
His arm looked much better on Sunday.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: deceiver on September 20, 2011, 04:37:59 AM
he did... this all weekend was one allergic thing for him ,, didnt you see he knew he wasnt on? all throgh wekend even that day in the press convference ...he wasnt all there,, he was out of it ,, he didnt have it going ,, was standing ther esmiling,, i told you in the past the fella is sensetive,, he is human ,, his dog died on him ,, i knew the moment i saw dog is passed that he woudnt come top to this mr o ,, he went on that dumb face book and posted that thing,, it mgith havebeen his wife or whomever but still ....for him to do this...i mean why woudl he write on face book that his dog died...only felas resally really sensetive woudl do it on a bodybuilding fuckin web page that he most likely dont even read cause who has the time to read face books he is nto from face book generation and even if he does it ..its not in his blood trust me on that ,, just does it due to the times we live in ,,

the fella just wasnt there,, you could tell it in his eyes ,, he was not there,, still nice as always but wasnt there

in bodybuilding...you better have EVERYTHING going right before comeptition otherwize...even if you are mr o you may screw up,, and he scrw up with the drugs ...his condition was pretty good before the screw up eventhough everything that was going on ...but! you cant screw on drugs at the final end ,,cant ,, you got to be dumb to not see that he knew HE KNEW he lost it before he even went on stage,,

philsulina did not win it...its jason who lost it,, i would trell you if i thought philsulina won it ,, he did not

gh15 approved

Before O you said exactly opposite - that he's going to win it becouse of his dog. Now you're trying to say you knew he would loose becouse of it... WTF?
Title: How many more years does Cutler have left of competing?
Post by: Deicide on September 20, 2011, 04:47:07 AM
He is about 37 now? so maybe 5 more years? ???
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: gh15 on September 20, 2011, 04:59:24 AM
Before O you said exactly opposite - that he's going to win it becouse of his dog. Now you're trying to say you knew he would loose becouse of it... WTF?

i said it because i believe dogs are angels,, but no angel will help someone who fuck up his own injects,, he fucked up his injects,, whats so hard to get? he simply scrwed up his final 2 days...as simple as that,, some bodybuilders fuck it up so bad they look like they dont lift...in jason cutler case since ther eis tons of foundation there because he was part of the 90s and not of this fucked up generation ...due to his foundation he ended up second ....most bodybuild would end up 15th in this situation ..look what happend when luke fucked up diuretic ....or when any other bodybuild fo this generation does it ...in jason case he managed to stay top 6...big thing,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Ron on September 20, 2011, 10:01:11 AM

Why should he retire?

Does anyone not think he can come back and give Phil Heath a run for the title in 2012....   many do....


India on Saturday.... lets see if he improves and the arm bruise is back to normal...

Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: bigmikecox on September 20, 2011, 10:07:12 AM
the pics of Cutler at 4 and 3 weeks out were insane!  If he would have shown up like that he would win easily. He was actually harder and fuller 3 weeks out!
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: apply85 on September 20, 2011, 10:28:55 AM
Atrophy? Wtf you talking about atrophy, looks like maybe he has a rotator cuff problem on his left side, few people's shoulders are totaly even, who cares... atrophy lol, then you post a pic of him when the left shoulder is higher as if he couldn't do that with his muscles lol, why do people say crazy things
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Nails on September 20, 2011, 10:34:52 AM
Atrophy? Wtf you talking about atrophy, looks like maybe he has a rotator cuff problem on his left side, few people's shoulders are totaly even, who cares... atrophy lol, then you post a pic of him when the left shoulder is higher as if he couldn't do that with his muscles lol, why do people say crazy things

So now your a rotator cuff doctor  ??? Jay has never said anything about a rotator cuff problem, he was getting massaged by his chiropractor a few days out the olympia and didnt show any signs of pain when he was rotating his arms around the massage bed


There is a Significant difference in shoulder size between the left and right, this was from last years Olympia

(http://karendecoster.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/jay-cutler-prejudging2.jpg)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Meso_z on September 20, 2011, 11:07:57 AM
So now your a rotator cuff doctor  ??? Jay has never said anything about a rotator cuff problem, he was getting massaged by his chiropractor a few days out the olympia and didnt show any signs of pain when he was rotating his arms around the massage bed


There is a Significant difference in shoulder size between the left and right, this was from last years Olympia

(http://karendecoster.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/jay-cutler-prejudging2.jpg)
Are we still in 2007?  ;D
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: d0nny2600 on September 20, 2011, 11:11:09 AM
Are we still in 2007?  ;D
Obviously
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Nails on September 20, 2011, 11:13:08 AM
Are we still in 2007?  ;D


Damn i should have known it by the slick back hair style
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Papper on September 20, 2011, 03:13:54 PM
Come on guys, even I can instantly see that is 2006.

Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Papper on September 20, 2011, 03:20:58 PM
In 07 he had drier more wavy hair, was totally off and much lighter tan color
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Mr.1derful on September 20, 2011, 07:58:26 PM
So now your a rotator cuff doctor  ??? Jay has never said anything about a rotator cuff problem, he was getting massaged by his chiropractor a few days out the olympia and didnt show any signs of pain when he was rotating his arms around the massage bed


There is a Significant difference in shoulder size between the left and right, this was from last years Olympia (http://karendecoster.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/jay-cutler-prejudging2.jpg)

2006
Title: Phil Heath thinks Cutler Might be Done!
Post by: David M on September 21, 2011, 11:41:56 AM
When the new champ was on PBW they asked him if he thought Cutler was finished.  Heath said:
 
"During the posedown Jay got down on one knee and started touching the carpet on the olympia stage.  And that in my opinion was potentially him saying I've done it, I've loved it, I had fun, and I'm moving on."
Title: Re: Phil Heath thinks Cutler Might be Done!
Post by: Tito24 on September 21, 2011, 11:45:27 AM
thats amazing haha.
Title: Re: Phil Heath thinks Cutler Might be Done!
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 21, 2011, 11:51:04 AM
that makes no sense...
Title: Re: Phil Heath thinks Cutler Might be Done!
Post by: Secret Stack on September 21, 2011, 11:52:47 AM
will retire.

will come out of "retirement" (they call it a "comeback")

.....in 2013.
Title: Re: Phil Heath thinks Cutler Might be Done!
Post by: The RedMeatKid on September 21, 2011, 12:05:58 PM
He was looking for a contact lens. Jay will smash Phil in 2012. But at the same time, Branch just might smash Jay.
Title: Re: Phil Heath thinks Cutler Might be Done!
Post by: Tom on September 21, 2011, 12:31:08 PM
didn't watch the posedown and missed it... did jay really get down on one knee and do this as heath says?
Title: Re: Phil Heath thinks Cutler Might be Done!
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 21, 2011, 12:37:10 PM
He was looking for a contact lens. Jay will smash Phil in 2012. But at the same time, Branch just might smash Jay.

If Jay shows up in 2012 which I hope he doesn't he just may find himself in 5th or 6 with Evan Centopani fighting Heath for first.
Title: Re: Phil Heath thinks Cutler Might be Done!
Post by: Parker on September 21, 2011, 12:41:40 PM
If Jay shows up in 2012 which I hope he doesn't he just may find himself in 5th or 6 with Evan Centopani fighting Heath for first.
Where do you come up with this shit? Evan is too scared to compete with the top guys, is structurally flawed with a wide waist, and messed up abs, and needs a chest badly. Evan only picks contests where most of the top guys are out...now he may do the Arnold, but so will Kai...

Evan doesn't have what it takes, now to contest Phil...Phil is far more impressive, has a better stage presence and wow factor...
Title: Re: Phil Heath thinks Cutler Might be Done!
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 21, 2011, 12:43:22 PM
Where do you come up with this shit? Evan is too scared to compete with the top guys, is structurally flawed with a wide waist, and messed up abs, and needs a chest badly. Evan only picks contests where most of the top guys are out...now he may do the Arnold, but so will Kai...

Evan doesn't have what it takes, now to contest Phil...Phil is far more impressive, has a better stage presence and wow factor...
Evan would have been easily top 3 if he competed against those other oiled up shitbags in the Olympia.

Plus.....


wait for it....







wait for it......







wait for it.....






wait for it.....


















He's an Americano WHITE man.
Title: Re: Phil Heath thinks Cutler Might be Done!
Post by: Parker on September 21, 2011, 01:22:25 PM
Evan would have been easily top 3 if he competed against those other oiled up shitbags in the Olympia.

Plus.....


wait for it....



wait for it......


wait for it.....



wait for it...




He's a poor excuse for a  Americano WHITE male who is too scared.
Fixed for the reality.
Title: Re: Phil Heath thinks Cutler Might be Done!
Post by: True on September 21, 2011, 01:58:20 PM
that makes no sense...

Yes it does, and he might be right.
Title: Re: Phil Heath thinks Cutler Might be Done!
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 21, 2011, 03:55:25 PM
Palumboism has started to set in for Jay. If he doesn't call it quits now, it could get real bad for him. The "oil" is starting to betray him now. It was a good ride while it lasted though.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: OTHstrong on September 21, 2011, 04:56:35 PM
Atrophy? Wtf you talking about atrophy, looks like maybe he has a rotator cuff problem on his left side, few people's shoulders are totaly even, who cares... atrophy lol, then you post a pic of him when the left shoulder is higher as if he couldn't do that with his muscles lol, why do people say crazy things
You dare to correct 6 time Mr. Olympia Dorian Yates, he was the first to notice his shoulder atrophied and every lots of pros have commented aswell about this. Anyway I still think Jay can come back and win either way, he loses drive when he is on top for some reason, he is better at chasing the title
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: apply85 on September 21, 2011, 05:52:33 PM
You dare to correct 6 time Mr. Olympia Dorian Yates, he was the first to notice his shoulder atrophied and every lots of pros have commented aswell about this. Anyway I still think Jay can come back and win either way, he loses drive when he is on top for some reason, he is better at chasing the title

How can a shoulder that you exercise atrophy?!?!? I am not getting something obv
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: Stavios on September 21, 2011, 07:11:44 PM
I will make a prediction, Jay will look his all time best this weekend. Not sure if they will let him beat Phil if he is better on that day.

maybe not "all time best" since his body looks a bit aged but he can look like he did in 2009  8)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: goomba420 on September 21, 2011, 07:12:51 PM
i remember reading someone say jay should train only his right quad and arm for a whole year. seems like a good idea  :D
Title: Re: Jay Cutler is going to retire after the India Sheru Classic next week
Post by: ARNIE1947 on September 21, 2011, 07:30:49 PM
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