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Do they hit the inner head of the biceps?
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Do they hit the inner head of the biceps?
Ruhl was a big advocate of them...especially the partial movement (like the first movement in doing 21s). Depending on your hand placement they can burn the inner or outer head.
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One wonders why a natural monster like you always posts beginner questions about training.
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"Training board..." (?)
Go watch a few Larry Scott vids on YT. He'll tell you all about the inner head, outer head, upper head, giving head....
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"Training board..." (?)
Go watch a few Larry Scott vids on YT. He'll tell you all about the inner head, outer head, upper head, giving head, wong's head....
fixed
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Ruhl was a big advocate of them...especially the partial movement (like the first movement in doing 21s). Depending on your hand placement they can burn the inner or outer head.
Rhul arms sucked IMO
Just asked because I can't see how doing the top segment of the movement would hit the inner head anymore than the full curl ???
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It's really just more of a concentration movement. Wroking the inner head just depends on grib. Not a bad arm exercise to mix in time and again. There are 1000 ways you can curl so might as well mix it up...
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literally every mesmorph thread could be answered, "it doesn't matter."
that said, why would you do seated barbell curls? what purpose could they possible serve?
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Do they hit the inner head of the biceps?
It's a great exercise, I used to do them a lot. But here's a question for everyone, and think about this and I'm not trying to be a dick.
Do you REALLY think there is such thing as an exercise..for the biceps as an example that ONLY hit's one muscle be it the inner or outer? There might be a particular exercise that may isolate the entire bicep but you CANNOT isolate an inner or outer part of that bicep. Same with preachers...there is NO "lower" bicep.
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It's a great exercise, I used to do them a lot. But here's a question for everyone, and think about this and I'm not trying to be a dick.
Do you REALLY think there is such thing as an exercise..for the biceps as an example that ONLY hit's one muscle be it the inner or outer? There might be a particular exercise that may isolate the entire bicep but you CANNOT isolate an inner or outer part of that bicep. Same with preachers...there is NO "lower" bicep.
Coach is very much correct here. Also remember, 95% of exercises that directly stimulate the Bi's are simply a variation to the theme of curling.
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It's a great exercise, I used to do them a lot. But here's a question for everyone, and think about this and I'm not trying to be a dick.
Do you REALLY think there is such thing as an exercise..for the biceps as an example that ONLY hit's one muscle be it the inner or outer? There might be a particular exercise that may isolate the entire bicep but you CANNOT isolate an inner or outer part of that bicep. Same with preachers...there is NO "lower" bicep.
But flex magazine says preacher curls work lower biceps ??? ??? :-\ :-\ :-X :-X
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LOL....I understood that.
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no matter what u do your going to work the whole bicep. Grabing the bar with a wide grip will target the inner part more. Using a close grip will target the outer more. Its not rocket science
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I've found that consistency is the key to progress in weightlifting. Consistency. As long as you perform exercises with adequate weight to stimulate the muscle, with good form, eat enough calories for your goals, and recover properly you will make gains. At least this is my experience. Fancy exercises, seated this standing that, intricate programs, it's all garbage. Consistency will pay off in the end. Unfortunately, most people are too impatient and fail. They give up when they perceive their gains have halted. Big mistake. After twenty years lifting it's obvious to me that the human body is reluctant to adapt to change beyond a point. The changes do come albeit slower. The slower part is where most get frustrated and give up. A lot of people ask me for advice in my gym, and the thing I emphasize the most to them is to stay consistent.
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you tell us. you probably have "Getbig's Best Inner Biceps"
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Rhul arms sucked IMO
Just asked because I can't see how doing the top segment of the movement would hit the inner head anymore than the full curl ???
Are you high or retarded? Ruhl had some of the biggest biceps ever.
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Do they hit the inner head of the biceps?
Yes, if done with a wide grip.
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Do they hit the inner head of the biceps?
never liked them!!..
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I've found that consistency is the key to progress in weightlifting. Consistency. As long as you perform exercises with adequate weight to stimulate the muscle, with good form, eat enough calories for your goals, and recover properly you will make gains. At least this is my experience. Fancy exercises, seated this standing that, intricate programs, it's all garbage. Consistency will pay off in the end. Unfortunately, most people are too impatient and fail. They give up when they perceive their gains have halted. Big mistake. After twenty years lifting it's obvious to me that the human body is reluctant to adapt to change beyond a point. The changes do come albeit slower. The slower part is where most get frustrated and give up. A lot of people ask me for advice in my gym, and the thing I emphasize the most to them is to stay consistent.
exactly!
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It's a great exercise, I used to do them a lot. But here's a question for everyone, and think about this and I'm not trying to be a dick.
Do you REALLY think there is such thing as an exercise..for the biceps as an example that ONLY hit's one muscle be it the inner or outer? There might be a particular exercise that may isolate the entire bicep but you CANNOT isolate an inner or outer part of that bicep. Same with preachers...there is NO "lower" bicep.
you are right but if you twist the db during the curl bringing it in you can feel the inner bicep more. of course you can't really isolate it BUT if you feel a certain part of muscle from a twist or contraction during the lift wouldn't it grow. i feel like the mind muscle connection theory is very real. it takes years of training but it does happen. for example when i started lifting i couldn't feel my rear delts at all. i cut the weight down, raised it, low reps, high reps didn;t matter but after years of training i can do bent lat with no weight and get a pump from the contraction
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Love doing these.
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What the hell are seated barbell curls...I can't imagine they can be done except when you got dwarf arms....
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I've found that drugs is the key to progress in weightlifting. Drugs. As long as you perform exercises with adequate drugs to stimulate the muscle, with good drugs, eat enough calories for your goals, and dose properly you will make gains. At least this is my experience. Fancy exercises, seated this standing that, intricate programs, it's all garbage. Drugs will pay off in the end. Unfortunately, most people are too impatient and fail. They give up when they perceive their gains have halted. Big mistake. After twenty years lifting it's obvious to me that the human body is reluctant to adapt to change beyond a point. The changes do come albeit slower. The slower part is where most get frustrated and give up. A lot of people ask me for advice in my gym, and the thing I emphasize the most to them is to stay on drugs.
Fixed for mesmorph, the lying bastard.
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It's a great exercise, I used to do them a lot. But here's a question for everyone, and think about this and I'm not trying to be a dick.
Do you REALLY think there is such thing as an exercise..for the biceps as an example that ONLY hit's one muscle be it the inner or outer? There might be a particular exercise that may isolate the entire bicep but you CANNOT isolate an inner or outer part of that bicep. Same with preachers...there is NO "lower" bicep.
"Do you REALLY think there is such thing as an exercise..for the biceps as an example that ONLY hit's one muscle be it the inner or outer? There might be a particular exercise that may isolate the entire bicep but you CANNOT isolate an inner or outer part of that bicep. Same with preachers...there is NO "lower" bicep."...100% Correct
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What the hell are seated barbell curls...I can't imagine they can be done except when you got dwarf arms....
I remember Loui did them, but I can't find that pic.
IMO not a smart exercise, since you can't perform a full ROM.
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It's a great exercise, I used to do them a lot. But here's a question for everyone, and think about this and I'm not trying to be a dick.
Do you REALLY think there is such thing as an exercise..for the biceps as an example that ONLY hit's one muscle be it the inner or outer? There might be a particular exercise that may isolate the entire bicep but you CANNOT isolate an inner or outer part of that bicep. Same with preachers...there is NO "lower" bicep.
I've recently thrown them in the mix that's why I asked... I don't thing any curl exclusively hits one head
I'm wondering if it hits the inner head more than the other heads as I can't see how the mechanics of the excesses would... Just seeing if others have had success with it really?
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you tell us. you probably have "Getbig's Best Inner Biceps"
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Dunno about that but regardless I always try to improve on what I have
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Yes, if done with a wide grip.
Thanks brother I'll try them with a wider grip on arms day
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I remember Loui did them, but I can't find that pic.
IMO not a smart exercise, since you can't perform a full ROM.
I still do normal curls seated curls I'd consider more of a finishing movement
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wide grip bb curls hits the short head of the bicep
vice versa close grip hits the long head
edit: someone already said it
With dumbbells you hit the short head better when supinating.
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wide grip bb curls hits the short head of the bicep
vice versa close grip hits the long head
edit: someone already said it
With dumbbells you hit the short head better when supinating.
how wide?
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"Isolation" isn't a word that should be associated with muscles. They all work in synergy (together) ~ Yeah, you can put more emphasis on one muscle than another, but there is never a time when ONLY one muscle is working.... EVER!
Muscles that are formed in groups (triceps, biceps, chest, quads, calves, forearms, delts, abs, back) are prime examples of muscles that cannot possibly be *isolated*.
This is a very loose term when it comes to bodybuilding and anatomy.
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What the hell are seated barbell curls...I can't imagine they can be done except when you got dwarf arms....
(http://weighttrainingexercises4you.com/images/Seated-Barbell-Curl.jpg)
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"Isolation" isn't a word that should be associated with muscles. They all work in synergy (together) ~ Yeah, you can put more emphasis on one muscle than another, but there is never a time when ONLY one muscle is working.... EVER!
Muscles that are formed in groups (triceps, biceps, chest, quads, calves, forearms, delts, abs, back) are prime examples of muscles that cannot possibly be *isolated*.
This is a very loose term when it comes to bodybuilding and anatomy.
THIS ^^
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(http://weighttrainingexercises4you.com/images/Seated-Barbell-Curl.jpg)
Looks like a waste of time imo.
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Looks like a waste of time imo.
I agree. Im just trying to understand how this can put any more stress on your muscle than going full ROM!
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Hits the inner head if you supinate.
Hits the outer head if you do more of a hammer grip.
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Hits the inner head if you supinate.
Hits the outer head if you do more of a hammer grip.
supinate with dumbells that i know
have you ever tried seated barbell curls??
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fucking retards, it's exactly the same movement / stimulation whatever the exercise.
bunch of geniuses on here obviously...
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Uhhhhhhhhh....
"Seated BARBELL curls are going to limit your range of motion... we do understand this, no?
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seated barbell curl = standing bench press
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Uhhhhhhhhh....
"Seated BARBELL curls are going to limit your range of motion... we do understand this, no?
Yep, and that is why they are "good"---especially at the end of a biceps workout---due to you sitting on the bench, you have no real way of cheating that bar up---unless you do a funky shrug-curl movement.
Also due to sitting on the bench, you can only do the 1st half of the rep---like doing 21s.
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Yep, and that is why they are "good"---especially at the end of a biceps workout---due to you sitting on the bench, you have no real way of cheating that bar up---unless you do a funky shrug-curl movement.
Also due to sitting on the bench, you can only do the 1st half of the rep---like doing 21s.
Exactly no excersise is completely useless
So far messing with these I've seen a slight different
Will try them wide grip on Friday
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One of the best exercises you can do for biceps,stops you from cheating by swinging the weight up with the hips on the first part of the movement.It was one of Sergios favourites.
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supinate with dumbells that i know
have you ever tried seated barbell curls??
No, never seated. Not that I don't like them.. just never really tried them. I do like 21's at the end of a workout.. and that includes the top half of the movement.
I find the best exercise overall for biceps is a seated one-arm db curl on a preacher bench.. However, don't straddle the bench seat. Sit with both of your legs facing the same way so that the side of your body is against the preacher. Hard to describe.
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i used to do them standing but overtime it hurts my forearm so much that i stopped doing them now,switched to ezbar instead
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i used to do them standing but overtime it hurts my forearm so much that i stopped doing them now,switched to ezbar instead
Standing seated barbell curls are the shit, build much more biceps than not-standing EZ-Bar-supinated-Preacher-TUT-negatively-positive-Godzilla-curls. ::) ::) ::)
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i used to do them standing but overtime it hurts my forearm so much that i stopped doing them now,switched to ezbar instead
I used to do standing barbell curls as well and stopped for the same reason. Major pain on the outside of my forearms.