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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: suckmymuscle on October 02, 2011, 11:46:57 AM
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GSP undergoes hydrostatic body composition measurement, the "gold standard" of assesing bodyfat, and it comes back at 7.7% bodyfat. This is why I laugh my ass off at guys here claiming 3% bodyfat. Here is a professional athlete who has an extremely rigorous diet and performs physical exercise for up to 10 hours a day, every day, six days a week, and yet he has close to 8% bodyfat, and yet some Getbiggers claim 3% bodyfat in their photos. 12% is lean, 7% is elite professional athlete or professional bodybuilder in contest shape, 5% is elite professional marathoner, 4% is Auschwitz, and 3% is dead(Munzer).
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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nice post-so basically a BBer cuts water to get to that 5% look or even some guys who weigh in for a MMA fight ?
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you can't even see what he looks like...
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GSP undergoes hydrostatic body composition measurement, the "gold standard" of assesing bodyfat, and it comes back at 7.7% bodyfat. This is why I laugh my ass off at guys here claiming 3% bodyfat. Here is a professional athlete who has an extremely rigorous diet and performs physical exercise for up to 10 hours a day, every day, six days a week, and yet he has close to 8% bodyfat, and yet some Getbiggers claim 3% bodyfat in their photos. 12% is lean, 7% is elite professional athlete or professional bodybuilder in contest shape, 5% is elite professional marathoner, 4% is Auschwitz, and 3% is dead(Munzer).
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Flex was tested at 0.0% ;D
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nice post-so basically a BBer cuts water to get to that 5% look or even some guys who weigh in for a MMA fight ?
There is no evidence that pro bodybuilders are anywhere beneath 7% bodyfat in contest shape. Most of those ridiculous measurements of 3% bodyfat or even 2% bodyfat(impossible) were obtained with calipers, which give a margin of error of about 5%. The only way to get a precise measurement of bodyfat is with hydrostatic weighting, or if you want extreme precision, magnetic ressoning imaging of your entire body. A measurement of 3% bodyfat obtained with calipers can mean actually 8%. Now, some bodybuilders in the absolute best shape ever probably did reach 5% bodyfat. I think Dorian Yates at the 1995 Olympia and 1996 German Grand Prix was at 5% bodyfat. Gustavo Baddel was at 5% bodyfat for sure at the 2004 Olympia. As for 3% bodyfat, the only bodybuilder to have ever truly measured at 3% bodyfat by hydrostatic weighting was Andreas Munzer, and he died a couple days after the contest for which he obtained this measure.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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How precise is the bio-impedance method? I was measured with Bodystat equipment during a 10 week cutting period and came out on 4%
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How precise is the bio-impedance method? I was measured with Bodystat equipment during a 10 week cutting period and came out on 4%
Extremely imprecise. You are talking about the one where an electric current goes through your biceps? That is garbage. It starts from the mistaken assumption that the amount of subcutaneous fat under the skin of yor biceps represents the amount of subcutaneous fat of your entire body. It doesen't. The biceps is usually a lot leaner than the rest of the body.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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GSP undergoes hydrostatic body composition measurement, the "gold standard" of assesing bodyfat, and it comes back at 7.7% bodyfat. This is why I laugh my ass off at guys here claiming 3% bodyfat. Here is a professional athlete who has an extremely rigorous diet and performs physical exercise for up to 10 hours a day, every day, six days a week, and yet he has close to 8% bodyfat, and yet some Getbiggers claim 3% bodyfat in their photos. 12% is lean, 7% is elite professional athlete or professional bodybuilder in contest shape, 5% is elite professional marathoner, 4% is Auschwitz, and 3% is dead(Munzer).
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Who here has claimed 3% in their photos?
I don't know of anyone.
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What about all the clowns on here GH15 is saying are 6 - 10%
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Who here has claimed 3% in their photos?
I don't know of anyone.
Over the years, many have claimed 2% bodyfat. Yes, 2%. It is incredible. Your whole body enzymatic systems would collapse if you were at 2% bodyfat, and yet these guys survive and are stong enough to stand and post their pictures. It is incredible.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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What about all the clowns on here GH15 is saying are 6 - 10%
Yes, visual assesment is the most precise way to tell a guy's bodyfat percentage. I rest my case...many of the guys with six-packs posting pictures here are at 10% bodyfat, and some as low as 8%, but 6%? No.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Extremely imprecise. You are talking about the one where an electric current goes through your biceps? That is garbage. It starts from the mistaken assumption that the amount of subcutaneous fat under the skin of yor biceps represents the amount of subcutaneous fat of your entire body. It doesen't. The biceps is usually a lot leaner than the rest of the body.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
No, this one had electrodes attached to my toes and fingers. I think it was one of their first lines since these measurement were taken in the early 90's. This technology has prob improved a lot the last two decades.
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Lyle Mc Donald said that it's not possible for a man to get under 3% bodyfat and 9% for a women cause of the "essential" bodyfat wich is essential to live and can't be removed. This is the fat you can find in the brain for example.
I read it a long time ago so I'm not sure at 100% about the numbers.
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Lyle Mc Donald said that it's not possible for a man to get under 3% bodyfat and 9% for a women cause of the "essential" bodyfat wich is essential to live and can't be removed. This is the fat you can find in the brain for example.
I read it a long time ago so I'm not sure at 100% about the numbers.
Well, the fat in your brain and organs is obviously not included in bodyfat measurements: only subcutaneous fat counts. If you go by total fat content, Andreas Munzer when he measured at 3% bodyfat still had about 10% of his total bodyweight being fat.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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The "bod pod" device is not the golden standard. Dexa-scan testing is. The bod pod is slightly less precise and on par with underwater hydrostatic testing.
Bio-impedence are the least precise method by a long shot.
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The "bod pod" device is not the golden standard. Dexa-scan testing is. The bod pod is slightly less precise and on par with underwater hydrostatic testing.
Bio-impedence are the least precise method by a long shot.
You have really bad reading comprehension. Read my post...I said that for an extremely precise measurement you need to do an MRI of your entire body. The hydrostatic weighting is slightly less precise, but still precise enough to still be regarded as the gold standard. The new gold standard will either use X-rays or MRI that can discriminate adipose tissue. The margin of error will be only about 0.2% bodyfat.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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What about all the clowns on here GH15 is saying are 6 - 10%
He knows his drugs really well, but bodyfat measurements not so well. I wish his were right I would be one lean dude all the time.
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GSP doesn't have near the muscle mass of a bodybuilder in the first place, nor does he have nearly the same condition of a competing bodybuilder
useless thread, no offense
nobody here has claimed 3% bodyfat, some have claimed 5% (wich was bullshit for most)
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10 hrs a day 6 days a week... lol ::)
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GSP doesn't have near the muscle mass of a bodybuilder in the first place,
Completely irrelevant. We are talking about the amount of bodyfat relative to lean body mass. The total amount of muscle mass here is irrelvant.
nor does he have nearly the same condition of a competing bodybuilder
He looks more ripped than a lot of bodybuilders who mess up their conditioning. The ones who look more ripped do not look more ripped because they have less bodyfat, but because they are more dehydrated, have special oil applied to their skin which enhances muscle definition by increasing light reflection, and are under special stage lighting to enhance definition. Yo put GSP all oiled up and dehydrated like them under stage lights, and he will look more ripped than most bodybuilders.
useless thread, no offense
Useless brain you have. No offense. At least you have big muscles to make up for it, although your bodyfat has never been lower than 7%.
nobody here has claimed 3% bodyfat, some have claimed 5% (wich was bullshit for most)
You are a board noob, so you have no idea what people have claimed or not. I have been here for a total of almost 10 years, so I can tell you that many people have claimed 3% bodyfat over the years.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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GSP is way leaner than the guys on here who claim 3-6%.
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Completely irrelevant. We are talking about the amount of bodyfat relative to lean body mass. The total amount of muscle mass here is irrelvant.
Then would you mind explaining where the percentage comes from? If the numbers are relative to the lean body mass there should be in my mind a ratio, not a percentage. I was under the assumption that bf% is measured by the % of fat in your entire body mass.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_fat_measurement#Measurement_techniques (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_fat_measurement#Measurement_techniques)
"A person's body fat percentage is the total weight of the person's fat divided by the person's weight...//"
This makes the total muscle mass very relevant.
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BI is total bullshit
Depending on what time of day, a person can naturally hold very little or alot of water which will throw off the accuracy of Bioelectrical (sp) impednece
fact of the matter is that you get the most accurate reading from a six site body caliper reading
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btw, i left the spelling errors on the above post so you can see i didn't copy and paste my answer
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Over the years, many have claimed 2% bodyfat. Yes, 2%. It is incredible. Your whole body enzymatic systems would collapse if you were at 2% bodyfat, and yet these guys survive and are stong enough to stand and post their pictures. It is incredible.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You still haven't come up with any names of guys on Getbig who have claimed 3% bodyfat. Now you're saying 2%.
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You have really bad reading comprehension. Read my post...I said that for an extremely precise measurement you need to do an MRI of your entire body. The hydrostatic weighting is slightly less precise, but still precise enough to still be regarded as the gold standard. The new gold standard will either use X-rays or MRI that can discriminate adipose tissue. The margin of error will be only about 0.2% bodyfat.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You were incorrect in your original post. You said "GSP undergoes hydrostatic body composition measurement, the "gold standard" of assessing body fat"
that is wrong on two counts:
a) The Bod Pod is air displacement NOT hydrostatic.
b) The Bod Pod is not the "gold standard". Neither is hydrostatic underwater testing.
Even your second post is not entirely correct. MRI is NOT the gold standard. Dexa scan is. Magnetic resonance imaging is not the same thing as Dual X-ray Absorptiometry.
Honestly, who cares. He's leaner than both of us.
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GSP doesn't have near the muscle mass of a bodybuilder in the first place, nor does he have nearly the same condition of a competing bodybuilder
useless thread, no offense
nobody here has claimed 3% bodyfat, some have claimed 5% (wich was bullshit for most)
GOD DAMM THANK YOU
GSP trains for MMA purposes, not to have the highest level of muscle with lowest level of bodyfat. Some fucks will come up with anything to put a bodybuilder down.
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Useless brain you have. No offense. At least you have big muscles to make up for it, although your bodyfat has never been lower than 7%.
yeah I have never been as ripped as George St-Pierre 8)
Suckmymuscle's logic: GSP is a professional athlete so if he is almost 8%, nobody has been lower than that.
makes sense ;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=367574.0;attach=412502;image)
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yeah I have never been as ripped as George St-Pierre 8)
Suckmymuscle's logic: GSP is a professional athlete so if he is almost 8%, nobody has been lower than that.
makes sense ;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=367574.0;attach=412502;image)
You are over 10% bodyfat in these pictures. Hope this helps.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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You are over 10% bodyfat in these pictures. Hope this helps.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
lmao you are fucking ridiculous
I am more ripped in that picture than GSP has ever been
and I have seen GSP around a lot of time
I am twice his size and much leaner
no offence
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but GSP is a professional athlete so we can't be leaner than him
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GOD DAMM THANK YOU
GSP trains for MMA purposes, not to have the highest level of muscle with lowest level of bodyfat. Some fucks will come up with anything to put a bodybuilder down.
THAT'S IRRELEVANT. SM NEVER CLAIMED PIERRE HAS M0RE MUSCLE MASS. HE JUST SAID DUE T0 PIERRE'S ACTIVE LIFESTYLE AND HIM BEING AT 7 PERCENT IT'S UNLIKELY THAT M0ST GETBIGGERS ARE 7 PERCENT ALS0 BECAUSE THEY ARE N0 WHERE AS ACTIVE AS PIERRE. WHETHER PIERRE IS SMALLER IN MASS HAS N0THING T0 D0 WITH THE DISCUSSI0N AT HAND.
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You are over 10% bodyfat in these pictures. Hope this helps.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
LMAO. Over 10 percent with striations hahahahahhahahah GTFO
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THAT'S IRRELEVANT. SM NEVER CLAIMED PIERRE HAS M0RE MUSCLE MASS. HE JUST SAID DUE T0 PIERRE'S ACTIVE LIFESTYLE AND HIM BEING AT 7 PERCENT IT'S UNLIKELY THAT M0ST GETBIGGERS ARE 7 PERCENT ALS0 BECAUSE THEY ARE N0 WHERE AS ACTIVE AS PIERRE. WHETHER PIERRE IS SMALLER IN MASS HAS N0THING T0 D0 WITH THE DISCUSSI0N AT HAND.
ok so a bodybuilder, who's goal is to be THE LEANEST he can be, cannot be more ripped than someone who trains for MMA that doesn't even give a shit about his physical apperance
yes, it makes sense
you guys are genius ;D
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we can't be leaner than Tiger Wood, because he is a professional athlete.
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LMAO. Over 10 percent with striations hahahahahhahahah GTFO
Three things:
1. He doesen't have that many striations.
2. Striations are genetic and not completely dependent on bodyfat. Ronnie had visible striations on his shoulders when he was 10-15% bodyfat in the offseason.
3. He is about 10-12% bodyfat in the picture he posted.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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a faceless troll is to "own" Stavios, lol
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ok so a bodybuilder, who's goal is to be THE LEANEST he can be, cannot be more ripped than someone who trains for MMA that doesn't even give a shit about his physical apperance
yes, it makes sense
you guys are genius ;D
WELL WE D0N'T HAVE ANY PR0S HERE AND VERY AMATEURS HERE THAT ARE C0MPETING.
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Three things:
1. He doesen't have that many striations.
2. Striations are genetic and not completely dependent on bodyfat. Ronnie had visible striations on his shoulders when he was 10-15% bodyfat in the offseason.
3. He is about 10-12% bodyfat in the picture he posted.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
so GSP is leaner than I was on a contest diet
makes sense
he is 7% here, and I am 10-12%
(http://mmavalor.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/gsp-300x242.jpg)
makes sense
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=367574.0;attach=412502;image)
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ok so a bodybuilder, who's goal is to be THE LEANEST he can be, cannot be more ripped than someone who trains for MMA that doesn't even give a shit about his physical apperance
Do you really think that random Getbiggers who go to the gym three times a week and do an hour of cardio a day or so are going to have less bodyfat than a professional athlete who follows a strict diet and trains for 6 to 10 hours a day, every day? Get real. We are not talking about professional bodybuilders here who diet for months on skinless chicken breasts, brown rice and steamed broccoli and take a ton of drugs. I have already said that pro bodybuilders on their best contest shape are probably around 5% bodyfat, or the same as a professional marathoner who runs up to 100 miles a week. But random Getbiggers at 5% bodyfat? No, just no. You would know if you had 5% bodyfat because you would feel very sick and get colds all the time as the immune system becomes weakend when you drop to this level of bodyfat. In the picture you posted you are around 10% bodyfat. You people have no idea what 5% bodyfat is. That is slightly more than an Auschwitz survivor.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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so GSP is leaner than I was on a contest diet
makes sense
he is 7% here, and I am 10-12%
(http://mmavalor.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/gsp-300x242.jpg)
makes sense
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=367574.0;attach=412502;image)
Yep, he is leaner than you. Higher vascularity and striations mean nothing as striations are genetic and vascularity is enhanced by steroids at any bodyfat level.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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seriously, you know how many women have confused me for GSP since i started shaving my head?
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Do you really think that random Getbiggers who go to the gym three times a week and do an hour of cardio a day or so are going to have less bodyfat than a professional athlete who follows a strict diet and trains for 6 to 10 hours a day, every day? what makes you think a getbigger can't follow a strick diet and train too Get real. We are not talking about professional bodybuilders here who diet for months on skinless chicken breasts, brown rice and steamed broccoli they don't, professional bbers don't eat any cleaner than amateur bbers and take a ton of drugs. I have already said that pro bodybuilders on their best contest shape are probably around 5% bodyfat, or the same as a professional marathoner who runs up to 100 miles a week. But random Getbiggers at 5% bodyfat? No, just no. You would know if you had 5% bodyfat because you would feel very sick and get colds all the time as the immune system becomes weakend when you drop to this level of bodyfat. In the picture you posted you are around 10% bodyfat. You people have no idea what 5% bodyfat is. That is slightly more than an Auschwitz surviver. we are talking about 7% bf here, because you said we can't be leaner than GSP. I agree that almost no getbigger has been 5%bf exept maybe Leafy Bug
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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If you look up gsp's old fights in korea, he was way more hormonized, I think he was a bodybuilder first and fell into mma and kept with it because of talent, and fuck what this guy has to say with his fucking fat % machine
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Yep, he is leaner than you. Higher vascularity and striations mean nothing as striations are genetic and vascularity is enhanced by steroids at any bodyfat level.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
no he is not, he is skinnier that's all
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You were incorrect in your original post. You said "GSP undergoes hydrostatic body composition measurement, the "gold standard" of assessing body fat"
that is wrong on two counts:
a) The Bod Pod is air displacement NOT hydrostatic.
b) The Bod Pod is not the "gold standard". Neither is hydrostatic underwater testing.
Even your second post is not entirely correct. MRI is NOT the gold standard. Dexa scan is. Magnetic resonance imaging is not the same thing as Dual X-ray Absorptiometry.
Honestly, who cares. He's leaner than both of us.
This post is 100% spot on. The Dexa Scan is the golden standard for accurate bodyfat measurement.
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no he is not, he is skinnier that's all
Ok, whatever you say, dude. If you think you are beneath 7.7% bodyfat(GSP's bodyfat) in the pictures you posted, then I can't help you.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Also, it is impossible to tell who has more bodyfat by way of pictures alone. In order to end this debate, you would need to measure bodyfat levels for both guys in person. Pictures tell a different story.
I've seen guys with very little vascularity, yet tremendous muscle density, who carry less bodyfat than someone with more apparent vascularity and less muscle mass.
Stavios, maybe you should call GSP,
"1"
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Epic Lean for MMA fighter
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Also, it is impossible to tell who has more bodyfat by way of pictures alone. In order to end this debate, you would need to measure bodyfat levels for both guys in person. Pictures tell a different story.
I've seen guys with very little vascularity, yet tremendous muscle density, who carry less bodyfat than someone with more apparent vascularity and less muscle mass.
Stavios, maybe you should call GSP,
"1"
I'll call him and I'll punch him in the teeth when I see him
I'll handle the smaller man Chris Cormier style like he did to Mike Tyson ;D
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Epic Lean for MMA fighter
now THAT is shredded
that's bodybuilder shredded
GSP ain't even close to this condition
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GSP doesn't have near the muscle mass of a bodybuilder in the first place, nor does he have nearly the same condition of a competing bodybuilder
useless thread, no offense
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hey Che, how much time does it take to be good at punching ?
I don't want to boxe as I have the shittiest jaw ever (already fucked from 1 punch from a negro at the club haha) but I'd like to be able to punch real hard ;D
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hey Che, how much time does it take to be good at punching ?
I don't want to boxe as I have the shittiest jaw ever (already fucked from 1 punch from a negro at the club haha) but I'd like to be able to punch real hard ;D
It doesn't take very long , go to a boxing gym and you can learn how to punch (technique) in 5 or 6 months, but that doesn't mean shit when it comes to fighting.
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It doesn't take very long , go to a boxing gym and you can learn how to punch (technique) in 5 or 6 months, but that doesn't mean shit when it comes to fighting.
yeah but I am the shittiest fighter ever anyway.
I just act like I am a good fighter so people don't want to fight me ;D
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HAHA GSP is looking at the guy talking like he's speaking another language or is from another planet. These MMA guys are not the brightest athletes around that's for sure. I'm surprise he can even put to sentences together. Oops he can't..........."I'll die dab duh, die when I'm.......uh...........die when I sleep yeah that's it.........." LMAO! If it wasn't for this guy's dedication and fighting ability in MMA he'd probably be flipping burgers at McD's.
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Epic Lean for MMA fighter
That's as low as you can get right there.
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This is Suckingmanmuscle
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/311911_276331575727625_100000523531274_1059285_37697826_n.jpg)
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Ok, whatever you say, dude. If you think you are beneath 7.7% bodyfat(GSP's bodyfat) in the pictures you posted, then I can't help you.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
He doesn't need your help.
You still haven't posted one person who has claimed 2 or 3 %
Sucky has been getting pummeled lately, he's been posting dumber shit than his usual
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"Your reading comprehension is terrible" ::) SM favorite insult.
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Oh look, a bunch of sissies agreeing with each other means they are right. You f.aggots are getting more pathetic by the day.
Here is the bottom line, retards: I am always right and you are always wrong. Even you who have shit for brains know this is true. :)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Oh look, a bunch of sissies agreeing with each other means they are right. You f.aggots are getting more pathetic by the day.
Here is the bottom line, retards: I am always right and you are always wrong. Even you who have shit for brains know this is true. :)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
dude. you suck at getbig. hope this helps.
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You were incorrect in your original post. You said "GSP undergoes hydrostatic body composition measurement, the "gold standard" of assessing body fat"
that is wrong on two counts:
a) The Bod Pod is air displacement NOT hydrostatic.
b) The Bod Pod is not the "gold standard". Neither is hydrostatic underwater testing.
Even your second post is not entirely correct. MRI is NOT the gold standard. Dexa scan is. Magnetic resonance imaging is not the same thing as Dual X-ray Absorptiometry.
Honestly, who cares. He's leaner than both of us.
ha ha suckmanmuscle the resident genius made once again to look the fool.
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ha ha suckmanmuscle the resident genius made once again to look the fool.
;D
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Completely irrelevant. We are talking about the amount of bodyfat relative to lean body mass. The total amount of muscle mass here is irrelvant.
Muscle mass is completely relevant. Having relatively more muscle will mean the ratio of muscle to other tissues (such as bone, connective, etc) will be higher. That's why two people 250 lb at 25% bodyfat will look completely different if one is 5'8" and very muscular and the other is 6' and just a fat slob.
edit: you're fucking stupid as hell, the only thing that is impressive about you is that you have learned to use a computer despite your IQ of 60.
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dude. you suck at getbig. hope this helps.
I think your username, "no one" suits you perfectly. :)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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;D
Oh, the irony. Do you sissies also give blow jobs to each other?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Muscle mass is completely relevant. Having relatively more muscle will mean the ratio of muscle to other tissues (such as bone, connective, etc) will be higher. That's why two people 250 lb at 25% bodyfat will look completely different if one is 5'8" and very muscular and the other is 6' and just a fat slob.
0KAY BUT THAT'S N0T WHAT THE THREAD WAS AB0UT.
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Muscle mass is completely relevant. Having relatively more muscle will mean the ratio of muscle to other tissues (such as bone, connective, etc) will be higher. That's why two people 250 lb at 25% bodyfat will look completely different if one is 5'8" and very muscular and the other is 6' and just a fat slob.
No, muscle mass is completely irrelevant, and I am going to explain to you why. A percentage of bodyfat is a ratio between the amount of lean body tissue you have and subcutaneous fat. So if you weight 250 lbs at 7% bodyfat, you will have more total fat than a guy who weights 170 lbs at 7% bodyfat, but the proportion(ratio) of fat-to-muscle between the two guys will be the same, and this is what matters. They will look equally lean and show more or less the same degree of muscle definition - the difference being caused by subcutaneous water and genetics. So once again, I am right and you guys are wrong. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Oh, the irony. Do you sissies also give blow jobs to each other?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
GSP must give better blowjobs then us because he is a professional athlete so he is better than everybody in every field possible 8)
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wtf are you explaining for when you were wrong in your original post 5 times
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GSP must give better blowjobs then us because he is a professional athlete so he is better than everybody in every field possible 8)
After reading this post, I have come to the conclusion that they are right about only intelligent people being capable of witticism.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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After reading this post, I have come to the conclusion that they are right about only intelligent people being capable of witticism.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
GSP must be wittier, because he is a professional athlete so he is better than everybody in every field possible
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wtf are you explaining for when you were wrong in your original post 5 times
I wasn't wrong about anything besides mistaking the dexa-scan for the MRI. Which is completely redundant and digressing from the topic of the thread. I wasn't wrong about anything else, and if you f.aggots weren't so obviously dense, you would have understood my explanation already.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I wasn't wrong about anything besides mistaking the dexa-scan for the MRI. Which is completely redundant and digressing from the topic of the thread. I wasn't wrong about anything else, and if you f.aggots weren't so obviously dense, you would have understood my explanation already.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
of course we understand
Babe Ruth was a professional athlete so he has lower bodyfat % than every getbigger
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GSP must be wittier, because he is a professional athlete so he is better than everybody in every field possible
Stavios, stick to muscle building. Doing anything above what a child of primary school age is capable of is clearly beyond your capacity.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Stavios, stick to muscle building. Doing anything above what a child of primary school age is capable of is clearly beyond your capacity.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Depends if the child of primary school in question is a professional athlete or if he is just a regular getbigger in the first place
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stav is like the only person who hasn;t been made to look like a fool on here, you can't help but act a fool all the time
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stav is like the only person who hasn;t been made to look like a fool on here, you can't help but act a fool all the time
haha the only reason I don't get in arguments much on getbig is because my english isn't good enough to do so !
or else I would get owned quite a lot like a few other getbiggers ;D
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I guarantee we have some guys on getbig with lower bodyfat levels than gsp. There's hardcore guys who use drugs like dnp, tren, and gh and they diet hard as hell. Gsp doesn't make it his goal to be as ripped as he possibly can.
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No, muscle mass is completely irrelevant, and I am going to explain to you why. A percentage of bodyfat is a ratio between the amount of lean body tissue you have and subcutaneous fat. So if you weight 250 lbs at 7% bodyfat, you will have more total fat than a guy who weights 170 lbs at 7% bodyfat, but the proportion(ratio) of fat-to-muscle between the two guys will be the same, and this is what matters. They will look equally lean and show more or less the same degree of muscle definition - the difference being caused by subcutaneous water and genetics. So once again, I am right and you guys are wrong. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
But we are not talking abotu 7% vs 7%, we are talking 7.7% GSP vs. 3-5% bodybuilder. Lean mass is completely relevant in assessing bf%.
They will NOT look equally lean if they have the same bf% but different amounts of relative bodymass. Take a marathon runner at 5% and a bodybuilder at 5%, they look completely different, one looks emaciated the other looks huge and ripped.
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Here is a professional athlete who has an extremely rigorous diet and performs physical exercise for up to 10 hours a day, every day, six days a week,
Here some more
RUA 7% BF
(http://mattfaler.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/mauricio-shogun-rua.jpg)
Nogueira 7% BF
(http://mmasaint.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/rodrigo-nogueira.jpg)
Tim Sylvia 9% BF
(http://mmafrenzy.com/files/2009/06/310-pound-tim-sylvia.jpeg)
Fedor 9% BF
(http://assets.sbnation.com/imported_assets/14104/thumbnail_crop_php.jpg)
GSP 7%
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hen4qWJMVVY/TQWAlNc97wI/AAAAAAAAANU/j5QgMATVDtk/s1600/_tgeorges+st-pierre10-3.jpg)
Brian Withacre 12% BF
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/newsok-photos/537309/medium.jpg)
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But we are not talking abotu 7% vs 7%, we are talking 7.7% GSP vs. 3-5% bodybuilder. Lean mass is completely relevant in assessing bf%.
They will NOT look equally lean if they have the same bf% but different amounts of relative bodymass. Take a marathon runner at 5% and a bodybuilder at 5%, they look completely different, one looks emaciated the other looks huge and ripped.
N0 Y0U'RE TALKING AB0UT IT. THE PURP0SE 0F THE THREAD WAS T0 SH0W THAT PIERRE IS 7 PERCENT AND GETIBBGERS ARE M0RE THAN THAT WITH EXAGERATED B/F PERCENTAGES.
N0 LEAN MASS IS N0T RELEVANT IN ASSESSING B/F. A GUY WITH 200 LBS 0F LEAN MUSCLE MASS AND A GUY WITH 150 LBS 0F LEAN MUSCLE WILL STILL HAVE THEIR B0DY FAT TESTING IN PR0P0RTI0N T0 THEIR T0TAL WEIGHT. S0 HAVING M0RE LEAN MUSCLE MASS 0R LESS WILL N0T CHANGE Y0UR B0DY FAT PERCENTAGE. B0DY FAT PERCENTAGE IS THE PR0P0RTI0N 0F T0TAL FAT DIVIDED BY T0TAL WEIGHT. H0W LEAN Y0U L00K D0ES N0T CHANGE Y0UR ACTUAL B0DY FAT PERCENTAGE.
IT D0SEN'T MATTER H0W LEAN THEY L00K. THAT'S IRRELEVANT. WHY ARE WE EVEN DISCUSSING L0NG DISTANCE RUNNERS. ST PIERRE IS FAR FR0M 0NE.
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Here some more
RUA 7% BF
(http://mattfaler.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/mauricio-shogun-rua.jpg)
Nogueira 7% BF
(http://mmasaint.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/rodrigo-nogueira.jpg)
Tim Sylvia 9% BF
(http://mmafrenzy.com/files/2009/06/310-pound-tim-sylvia.jpeg)
Fedor 9% BF
(http://assets.sbnation.com/imported_assets/14104/thumbnail_crop_php.jpg)
GSP 7%
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hen4qWJMVVY/TQWAlNc97wI/AAAAAAAAANU/j5QgMATVDtk/s1600/_tgeorges+st-pierre10-3.jpg)
Brian Withacre 12% BF
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/newsok-photos/537309/medium.jpg)
:D Haha touche great ownage of suckmycockmuscle.
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Y0U GUYS ARE FUCKING RETARDS. ST PIERRE WAS TESTED AT 7 PERCENT. THERE WAS A VIDE0 SH0WN 0F IT. WHY MAKE STUFF UP WITH PICTURES 0F MMA FIGHTERS AND THEIR "SUPP0SED" B0DY FAT.
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lololololooooooooooooooo o che strikes again
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N0 Y0U'RE TALKING AB0UT IT. THE PURP0SE 0F THE THREAD WAS T0 SH0W THAT PIERRE IS 7 PERCENT AND GETIBBGERS ARE M0RE THAN THAT WITH EXAGERATED B/F PERCENTAGES.
N0 LEAN MASS IS N0T RELEVANT IN ASSESSING B/F. A GUY WITH 200 LBS 0F LEAN MUSCLE MASS AND A GUY WITH 150 LBS 0F LEAN MUSCLE WILL STILL HAVE THEIR B0DY FAT TESTING IN PR0P0RTI0N T0 THEIR T0TAL WEIGHT. S0 HAVING M0RE LEAN MUSCLE MASS 0R LESS WILL N0T CHANGE Y0UR B0DY FAT PERCENTAGE. B0DY FAT PERCENTAGE IS THE PR0P0RTI0N 0F T0TAL FAT DIVIDED BY T0TAL WEIGHT. H0W LEAN Y0U L00K D0ES N0T CHANGE Y0UR ACTUAL B0DY FAT PERCENTAGE.
IT D0SEN'T MATTER H0W LEAN THEY L00K. THAT'S IRRELEVANT. WHY ARE WE EVEN DISCUSSING L0NG DISTANCE RUNNERS. ST PIERRE IS FAR FR0M 0NE.
You can't do this
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zero zerO zero zerO
fucking lOser
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N0 Y0U'RE TALKING AB0UT IT. THE PURP0SE 0F THE THREAD WAS T0 SH0W THAT PIERRE IS 7 PERCENT AND GETIBBGERS ARE M0RE THAN THAT WITH EXAGERATED B/F PERCENTAGES.
N0 LEAN MASS IS N0T RELEVANT IN ASSESSING B/F. A GUY WITH 200 LBS 0F LEAN MUSCLE MASS AND A GUY WITH 150 LBS 0F LEAN MUSCLE WILL STILL HAVE THEIR B0DY FAT TESTING IN PR0P0RTI0N T0 THEIR T0TAL WEIGHT. S0 HAVING M0RE LEAN MUSCLE MASS 0R LESS WILL N0T CHANGE Y0UR B0DY FAT PERCENTAGE. B0DY FAT PERCENTAGE IS THE PR0P0RTI0N 0F T0TAL FAT DIVIDED BY T0TAL WEIGHT. H0W LEAN Y0U L00K D0ES N0T CHANGE Y0UR ACTUAL B0DY FAT PERCENTAGE.
IT D0SEN'T MATTER H0W LEAN THEY L00K. THAT'S IRRELEVANT. WHY ARE WE EVEN DISCUSSING L0NG DISTANCE RUNNERS. ST PIERRE IS FAR FR0M 0NE.
Exactly. You got it. The problem with these f.aggots is that they have shit for brains.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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The problem is that I'm too stupid to realize when everyone is laughing at me because I am stupid.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
very insightful of you, stupid.
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very insightful of you, stupid.
Shhhhhhhhhh...shut up. You are no one.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Oh no!
SMM, please have mercy on fat, hormonized Stavios. He's good people and cannot withstand your savage wrath, oh smart, rich, intelligent and omnipotent one! If you show compassion, we will tell stories of how merciful you are!
PS. You still haven't finished owning me, oh great one. I posted pics hoping you'd spare, but it seems as though you've ignored them all together. Still waiting to see your studly 300lb physique with shredded abs and bountiful striated glutes.
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Exactly. You got it. The problem with these f.aggots is that they have shit for brains.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Hahahahahahaha.......Mr. Bullshitter up to it again. You sure get owned a lot for a guy with a four-digit IQ. ::)
Lemme guess, in your mom's basement, you're 6'-5", 290 lbs and under 7%, because you're a "cage fighter".
Every time you post, you sound more and more like that "slacker" piece of shit that used to sling BS here.
Cum belcher!
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Hahahahahahaha.......Mr. Bullshitter up to it again. You sure get owned a lot for a guy with a four-digit IQ.
Lemme guess, in your mom's basement, you're 6'-5", 290 lbs and under 7%, because you're a "cage fighter".
Every time you post, you sound more and more like that "slacker" piece of shit that used to sling BS here.
Cum belcher!
No, everything I say is true. Again, f.aggot, what is so incredible about a man over 6'4 having an 8" dick? Idiot.
And nice username, f.aggot. Did you think of it when you were riding your bike and you "accidentally" let the bike seat enter your asshole as you thought about my 8" dick?
And you should have appreciation for cum belchers, you turd c.unt. How do you think your moma got the money to buy that bike for you to stick it's seat up your pussy hole?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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You girls are really funny. You agree with each other and think that you're "winning" the argument. A bunch of turds agreeing with each other is nothing more than a turd fest. Do you f.aggots take turns dumping each other's loads inside your shit holes as well? Circle jerking perhaps? We know that "bike nut" likes to ride his bike whilst he sticks the seat up his shit hole thinking about how much he would like to deep throat my 8" dick and learn how to belch cum just like the bitch he has for a mother so he can afford more bike seats to stick up his shit hole.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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You girls are really funny. You agree with each other and think that you're "winning" the argument. A bunch of turds agreeing with each other is nothing more than a turd fest. Do you f.aggots take turns dumping each other's loads inside your shit holes as well? Circle jerking perhaps? We know that "bike nut" likes to ride his bike whilst he sticks the seat up his shit hole thinking about how much he would like to deep throat my 8" dick and learn how to belch cum just like the bitch he has for a mother so he can afford more bike seats to stick up his shit hole.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
hahaha...oh man this guys anger is incredible..I don't wnat him as an enemy.so vicious and so crazy..,,, :-\ :-\
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You girls are really funny. You agree with each other and think that you're "winning" the argument. A bunch of turds agreeing with each other is nothing more than a turd fest. Do you f.aggots take turns dumping each other's loads inside your shit holes as well? Circle jerking perhaps? We know that "bike nut" likes to ride his bike whilst he sticks the seat up his shit hole thinking about how much he would like to deep throat my 8" dick and learn how to belch cum just like the bitch he has for a mother so he can afford more bike seats to stick up his shit hole.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Come on man, relax...
Why even take these guys so seriously?
"1"
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No, everything I say is true. Again, f.aggot, what is so incredible about a man over 6'4 having an 8" dick? Idiot.
And nice username, f.aggot. Did you think of it when you were riding your bike and you "accidentally" let the bike seat enter your asshole as you thought about my 8" dick?
And you should have appreciation for cum belchers, you turd c.unt. How do you think your moma got the money to buy that bike for you to stick it's seat up your pussy hole?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Same post response as yesterday. Wasn't funny or original then, isn't the least bit witty now. Just proves my point....you're a 15 year old twink posting from his mother's basement. Man the fuck up Princess.
What's next Mr. Bullshitter? Carrying a 5,000 lb rock? MMA fighting? 1425 point IQ?
You are so full of shit - not one fucking thing you post isn't pure 100% google with a side order of suckmanmeat bullshit.
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You girls are really funny. You agree with each other and think that you're "winning" the argument. A bunch of turds agreeing with each other is nothing more than a turd fest. Do you f.aggots take turns dumping each other's loads inside your shit holes as well? Circle jerking perhaps? We know that "bike nut" likes to ride his bike whilst he sticks the seat up his shit hole thinking about how much he would like to deep throat my 8" dick and learn how to belch cum just like the bitch he has for a mother so he can afford more bike seats to stick up his shit hole.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I've seen 14 year old Down's Syndrome kids put together a better insult. 1980 called and wants the term "f aggot" back. Do you really think any hetero male is insulted at all by that term?
I'd stick around and call you on your total BULLSHIT, but I have 234,567 family-owned casinos to run. ::)
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You are over 10% bodyfat in these pictures. Hope this helps.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
chest striations at bf > 10% ;D :D
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You girls are really funny. You agree with each other and think that you're "winning" the argument. A bunch of turds agreeing with each other is nothing more than a turd fest. Do you f.aggots take turns dumping each other's loads inside your shit holes as well? Circle jerking perhaps? We know that "bike nut" likes to ride his bike whilst he sticks the seat up his shit hole thinking about how much he would like to deep throat my 8" dick and learn how to belch cum just like the bitch he has for a mother so he can afford more bike seats to stick up his shit hole.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Why don't you quote me directly? And why don't you post any pictures? Even if you're not so photogenic, your glorious physique should still own mine because of how many trillions of light years it exceeds mine by.
Also, have you not stopped to think maybe you're the one who's incorrect for once? After all, look at the massive failure all your threads are. Maybe we're not the imbeciles. And if we are, why don't you go fuck off to some top secret billionaires club while us cretins scratch our dirty assholes and discuss the current happenings involving oiled men in thongs?
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yes gsp is an amazing athlete. he is lean but he not lean enough to get onto a bbing stage..you just can't compare the two. he has to keep alittle fat to stay healthy and to protect his organs ect. when you extremely lean LIKE A BBER gets your immune system is weak. so while yes he is lean bbers get extremely ripped and there are several bbers especially in the NABBA that get to 3-4%. Lester(i believe) in the early 2000's got RIPPED
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i don't think suckmymuscle actual even believes that gsp is leaner the stavios in those pics. i just think he wants to argue. yes gsp is lean but he is not bbing lean. end of thread
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How did this pofs get away with this crap so long without ever being forced to post his own pics?
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Flex was tested at 0.0% ;D
I believe it was Billy Smith who wielded the calipers on that fateful day in Venice Golds.
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I believe it was Billy Smith who wielded the calipers on that fateful day in Venice Golds.
uh oh here we go ;D
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I believe it was Billy Smith who wielded the calipers on that fateful day in Venice Golds.
interesting please ellaborate :D
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There is subcutaneous fat, visceral fat and intra muscular fat. For the most part I think a lot of bodybuilders claiming a certain bf % are almost as trustworthy as their bicep measurement claim; bench press weight claim; or their drug free claim.
As has been stated in some earlier posts so many methods for testing can be seriously way off.
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I believe it was Billy Smith who wielded the calipers on that fateful day in Venice Golds.
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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Lol! What was it exactly that made you change your mind..........
You're just dumb. Dorian was 265lbs at the 97 O, during pre-judging, at 2% bodyfat, and ballooned to 274 lbs at the night show, while still being a 2% bodyfat. I have said it over and over again, but the retarded fucks, from this board, don't seem to get it:Dorian's conditioning REMAINS the gold-standard, which all bodybuilders aspire to. When you take into account height and bone girth, the ONLY bodybuilder who comes CLOSE to Dorian is the 2003 Coleman.
Jay Cutler...Dorian defeated Ronnie innumerable times during his career, something which Jay Cutler has failed to do even a single time. Doesen't this tell you something about who's the man? I was at the 1996, 1997, 1999 and 2003 Olympias, and also other 300 bodybuilding shows, both amateur and professional, besides being a competitor myself, and I have NEVER seen anything that looks like Yates, in contest condition. He was a human physiology chart, etched in granite. This debate is very stupid because taking into account mass-per-square-inch, density, dryness and structural balance, Dorian is undoubtedly the greatest bodybuilder ever. Tom Platz, Lee Haney, Samir Bannout and Lee Labrada also agree.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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interesting please ellaborate :D
Don't mind if I do. It was way back in 1993, during the telecast of that year's Mr. Olympia. Jim Quinn reported that in the days leading up to the contest Billy Smith tested Flex Wheeler's body fat percentage by way of a skin fold measurement. He performed the test at Golds Gym in Venice Beach, California and the result was 0.0% BF, the lowest reading ever recorded both at that time, and to this very day. Some say that those calipers are still on display today at the Mecca.
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Don't mind if I do. It was way back in 1993, during the telecast of that year's Mr. Olympia. Jim Quinn reported that in the days leading up to the contest Billy Smith tested Flex Wheeler's body fat percentage by way of a skin fold measurement. He performed the test at Golds Gym in Venice Beach, California and the result was 0.0% BF, the lowest reading ever recorded both at that time, and to this very day. Some say that those calipers are still on display today at the Mecca.
;D ;D ;D Shut the fuck up!