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Useless exercise for a BB (unless u wanna build a fat ass and child bearing hips)
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Useless exercise for a BB (unless u wanna build a fat ass and child bearing hips)
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He's such an idiot. You're gonna ruin your knees with pathetic machines much faster. Listen to olympic coaches, not bloated morons like this.
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Useless exercise for a BB (unless u wanna build a fat ass and child bearing hips)
(http://pixhost.me/avaxhome/a9/0f/00100fa9_medium.jpeg)
(http://media.ebaumsworld.com/2011/05/81554535/squat.jpg)
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He's such an idiot. You're gonna ruin your knees with pathetic machines much faster. Listen to olympic coaches, not bloated morons like this.
at least 50% of bb.com and /fit/ believe this guy lololol
they also think he's natural lololol
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the fisherman hat is so fucking funny everytime...
another guy who shoots test and all of a sudden feels like a guru ::)
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Id Dorian didn`t do them, I too will not do them. I guess some can do them and some can`t. I dunno.
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the fisherman hat is so fucking funny everytime...
another guy who shoots test and all of a sudden feels like a guru ::)
i prefer this guy
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(http://pixhost.me/avaxhome/a9/0f/00100fa9_medium.jpeg)
(http://media.ebaumsworld.com/2011/05/81554535/squat.jpg)
Ever heard of Dorian Yates? To suggest either of their legs can be contributed to squats is just stupid. And by the way, Ronnie's ass WAS huge and so was his gut
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i prefer this guy
the man in my video was 19 years old and twice lighter ::)
you sure?
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Ever heard of Dorian Yates? To suggest either of their legs can be contributed to squats is just stupid. And by the way, Ronnie's ass WAS huge and so was his gut
lol so the huge growth hormone and insulina guts are suddenly caused by squats
dorian didnt squat because he had a hip problem
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I only feel squads nicely in the quads after some pe exhaustion by leg extensions...
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the man in my video was 19 years old and twice lighter ::)
you sure?
very sure i hate that stupid americano
he's soooo steroided that he can't do shit in a tested competition
sure rezazadeh was also juiced but at least he broke olympic and world records AND passed the drug testing
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I only feel squads nicely in the quads after some pe exhaustion by leg extensions...
lol
do you use a wide stance and a low bar position perhaps? if you just squat deep with a high bar position it's basically all quads
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Useless exercise for a BB (unless u wanna build a fat ass and child bearing hips)
idiot
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I know but I suck with squats because my legs are rather long. If I keep the bar high the weight is pathetic.
I do much better at deadlifting..
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idiot x2
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lol so the huge growth hormone and insulina guts are suddenly caused by squats
dorian didnt squat because he had a hip problem
Dorian didnt squat because it was a useless excercise FOR him. He said legpress was MUCH more effective. He squated early in his career because he thought you had. Then he decided to think for himself and saw he wasnt built for squats. Everyone is differant moron, make up your mind for yourself. Dont squat because your hero Ronnie did. Do squats hit your quads, do they overload your hip-flexors, are they overworking your glutes? Fucking christ your threads suck. Yes meltdown LOL!!
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Dorian didnt squat because it was a useless excercise FOR him. He said legpress was MUCH more effective. He squated early in his career because he thought you had. Then he decided to think for himself and saw he wasnt built for squats. Everyone is differant moron, make up your mind for yourself. Dont squat because your hero Ronnie did. Do squats hit your quads, do they overload your hip-flexors, are they overworking your glutes? Fucking christ your threads suck. Yes meltdown LOL!!
Hey don't offend my friend PNS !
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Dorian didnt squat because it was a useless excercise FOR him. He said legpress was MUCH more effective. He squated early in his career because he thought you had. Then he decided to think for himself and saw he wasnt built for squats. Everyone is differant moron, make up your mind for yourself. Dont squat because your hero Ronnie did. Do squats hit your quads, do they overload your hip-flexors, are they overworking your glutes? Fucking christ your threads suck. Yes meltdown LOL!!
only leg exercise i ever did are squats and my quads are by far the most bestly developed muscle in my body
how can squats not build quads are you guys physically deformed
dorian says the weirdest shit he says "bench press is officially a shitty pec exercise"
i mean come on
then he says decline bench is amazing
yet everyone knows decline is SHIT you're better off doing dips than decline
more bro science tonight at 11
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Being 6'2" I'm just not built for squats. How tall are you bitch?
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Being 6'2" I'm just not built for squats. How tall are you bitch?
I'm 5'1'' and I hate squats too....
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Being 6'2" I'm just not built for squats. How tall are you bitch?
this guy is 6'4" and he can do anything and everything
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Hey don't offend my friend PNS !
He's a fucking moron. Ok squats work for you so they must work for EVERYONE
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full squats - King of exercises!
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He's a fucking moron. Ok squats work for you so they must work for EVERYONE
no you are a unique snow flake and your body is completely different from everybody else ::)
how do you people think medical science exists if everybody is different
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squats can work for everyone sometimes it just takes more time to get the form right,hacks are better for isolating the quads though.
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Being 6'2" I'm just not built for squats. How tall are you bitch?
Nice excuse, shit head. ::)
My training partner in college was 6'4" and we both rocked 4-5 plates for reps with squats whenever we trained legs.
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Nice excuse, shit head. ::)
My training partner in college was 6'4" and we both rocked 4-5 plates for reps with squats whenever we trained legs.
these morans dont want to accept that a lot of top lifters in the olympics are around 6'4"
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dorian says the weirdest shit he says "bench press is officially a shitty pec exercise"
So it is.
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Anyway his knowledge about mechanics is absolutely laughable.
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Nice excuse, shit head. ::)
My training partner in college was 6'4" and we both rocked 4-5 plates for reps with squats whenever we trained legs.
Benny I will just say they arent for me, no need to argue. I am done with this thread PNS is the biggest troll fucking moron on this board
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Benny I will just say they arent for me, no need to argue. I am done with this thread PNS is the biggest troll fucking moron on this board
you just don't want to squat that's fine no need to try to claim bs like "i'm 6'2" herp derp cant squat"
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Anyway his knowledge about mechanics is absolutely laughable.
he thinks leg presses have zero risk for the spine
loloololol
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very sure i hate that stupid americano
he's soooo steroided that he can't do shit in a tested competition
sure rezazadeh was also juiced but at least he broke olympic and world records AND passed the drug testing
tsssh! hater 8)
there's not one guy in that training camp that doesn't have a ridiculous squat
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tsssh! hater 8)
there's not one guy in that training camp that doesn't have a ridiculous squat
yeah i'm a hater alright i just hate americanos who post tons of videos on youtube but never do shit on the international platform
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yeah i'm a hater alright i just hate americanos who post tons of videos on youtube but never do shit on the international platform
yes yes but they still did it.
secondly, don't be so literal, brah!
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I'm not juiced, I'm 41 years old and unless I do decided to take that option, the likelihood of my legs continuing to grow is pretty small. I like to squat, but I find one legged leg presses seem to be working well enough for me also, without worrying about knees, lower back or neck issues. I always thought squats were a great exercise, but fuck, if I can maintain what I have with some energy left over, by doing leg presses, why not?
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yes yes but they still did it.
secondly, don't be so literal, brah!
yes still amazing amazing strength
just more rezazadeh fan, he's the hero of weightlifting
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yes still amazing amazing strength
just more rezazadeh fan, he's the hero of weightlifting
the mans a beast!
To be honest I'm more fan of the middle weight/light weight weightlifters. Their body/lift ratio is ammazing, the're like ants. Very athletic.
Not to say the super heavys aren't, it's just that they look like somethng bad is about to happend ;D
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Useless exercise for a BB (unless u wanna build a fat ass and child bearing hips)
Yes...they should be pulled from 99.5% of the Pro and college football, baseball and almost every strength program in the country because the Strength and Conditioning coaches are wrong ::)
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the mans a beast!
To be honest I'm more fan of the middle weight/light weight weightlifters. Their body/lift ratio is ammazing, the're like ants. Very athletic.
Not to say the super heavys aren't, it's just that they look like somethng bad is about to happend ;D
85 and 94kg class is the highest level of competition supposedly, i'm not sure
what weight class do you think is the most competitive?
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full squats - King of exercises!
Glad you're back at it, Coach Huang. I remember the busted leg. You're a machine!
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85 and 94kg class is the highest level of competition supposedly, i'm not sure
what weight class do you think is the most competitive?
I think mens 75kg. The lifters look very athletic and the way they press 200kg above their head is just something else imo. All of them are brutal strong, I'm just a fan.
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Anyway his knowledge about mechanics is absolutely laughable.
He is an engineer
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Enough Said!
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those of you that have never squatted...please post pics of your legs to make your point
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I like front squats. Most leg machines hurt my knees apart from certain leg press ones.
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Squats are the absolute best builder of Bone Density for the entire Spinal region. This in itself should make the exercise a required mainstay as this region is especially important as one ages.
Measured here is the current World Record Squat Holder and his Spinal Region. What was found is that he was able to have over TWICE the amount of critical compression with absolutely zero damage with absolutely ZERO damage or degradation to any region in his spine/back.
https://www.thieme-connect.com/ejournals/abstract/sportsmed/doi/10.1055/s-2000-7417
DEXA scan revealed the highest bone mineral density reported to date. MRI revealed normal alignment, no evidence of disc herniation or compressive disc disease. There was no frank or neural foraminal canal stenosis. The estimated compressive force generated on his lumbar spine during the squat lift of > 469 kg doubles the previously reported critical compression force. This case study supports the previously described relationship between strength and bone density and redefines the upper limits of bone density in strength athletes.
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Here is a study that shows the SQUAT vs. the Leg Press as far as muscle development goes.
http://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Abstract/2001/09000/Effects_of_technique_variations_on_knee.20.aspx
Conclusions: The greater muscle activity and knee forces in the squat compared with the LPL and LPH implies the squat may be more effective in muscle development
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He is an engineer
once again rofl @ american education.
i showed this to my friend who is an engineer from legitimate POLISH school and he laughed his ass off.
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Here is another of the Squat PWNING the shit out of the Leg Press.
http://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Abstract/1998/04000/Biomechanics_of_the_knee_during_closed_kinetic.14.aspx
Overall, the squat generated approximately twice as much hamstring activity as the leg press and knee extensions. Quadriceps muscle activity was greatest in CKCE when the knee was near full flexion and in OKCE when the knee was near full extension. OKCE produced more rectus femoris activity while CKCE produced more vasti muscle activity. Tibiofemoral compressive force was greatest in CKCE near full flexion and in OKCE near full extension. Peak tension in the posterior cruciate ligament was approximately twice as great in CKCE, and increased with knee flexion. Tension in the anterior cruciate ligament was present only in OKCE, and occurred near full extension. Patellofemoral compressive force was greatest in CKCE near full flexion and in the mid-range of the knee extending phase in OKCE.
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Here is another of the Squat PWNING the shit out of the Leg Press.
http://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Abstract/1998/04000/Biomechanics_of_the_knee_during_closed_kinetic.14.aspx
Overall, the squat generated approximately twice as much hamstring activity as the leg press and knee extensions. Quadriceps muscle activity was greatest in CKCE when the knee was near full flexion and in OKCE when the knee was near full extension. OKCE produced more rectus femoris activity while CKCE produced more vasti muscle activity. Tibiofemoral compressive force was greatest in CKCE near full flexion and in OKCE near full extension. Peak tension in the posterior cruciate ligament was approximately twice as great in CKCE, and increased with knee flexion. Tension in the anterior cruciate ligament was present only in OKCE, and occurred near full extension. Patellofemoral compressive force was greatest in CKCE near full flexion and in the mid-range of the knee extending phase in OKCE.
And in conclusion like I've said for YEARS..........stay off the machines.
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Well I'm convinsed, I'm just going to do basic excercises from now on. No more machinery. I've actually started doing weighted pull ups as my main excercises after deadlifts and I've actually got my ectomorph ribs from the back hidden when I do a latspread :P
Now I'll just do squats, longues and stiff legg deadlifts.... are extensions useless for quad developments?
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Generally speaking, the harder the exercise, the better the exercise.
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I`ve been squatting around 4 times a week using Smolov Routine and I have increased my squat about 50 lbs in a month. I still have another month to go. I think Layne Norton also got similar results.
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I`ve been squatting around 4 times a week using Smolov Routine and I have increased my squat about 50 lbs in a month. I still have another month to go. I think Layne Norton also got similar results.
adding 50lbs to the squat in a month is all drugs, it cannot be done unless you're very weak at the start of the month
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so extensions are useless for leg development? Really I'm starting to think that all the extension moves do is give you an extremely good pump... but you develop your power from squats in actuality.
Someone say yey or nay on this!
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adding 50lbs to the squat in a month is all drugs, it cannot be done unless you're very weak at the start of the month
Try Smolov and really push yourself. Watch what happens you fucking debbie downer.
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Try Smolov and really push yourself. Watch what happens you fucking debbie downer.
come on you can't be serious
rules of weightlifting:
there are no magical routines or programs
my coach said so and he deadlifted 200kg with one hand, tore phone books and bent metal
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adding 50lbs to the squat in a month is all drugs, it cannot be done unless you're very weak at the start of the month
No it's not all drugs. It's knowing how to train and knowing how to progress in training.
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Smolov Routine
Got a link brother?
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once again rofl @ american education.
i showed this to my friend who is an engineer from legitimate POLISH school and he laughed his ass off.
::) ::)
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Got a link brother?
1 second of google
http://stronglifts.com/how-to-add-100-pounds-to-your-squat-smolov/
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1 second of google
http://stronglifts.com/how-to-add-100-pounds-to-your-squat-smolov/
Thanks for that second of hard work man.
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Thanks man,I didn`t have a second to waste on it really.
lol...
i'm reading this for the first time myself but i don't really buy the 50lbs or more gain in a month
lol ludicrous
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I squat year round. But, I'm a bike racer though... not a bodybuilder.
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Got a link brother?
Yeep!
http://stronglifts.com/how-to-add-100-pounds-to-your-squat-smolov/
There is even an Excel Spreadsheet included and it will give you your entire schedule. I have been doing it for a little over a month and have increased my squat and even have gone up in bodyweight and have gotten a lot leaner. At this point I`m pulling a Frank Zane and gaining weight and losing body fat versus the typical cut and lose weight.
I think if anyone follows this and does not deviate at all, they will get a similar result. One thing, DO NOT Overestimate your current 1RM squat or you will be sorry. I was dead on with mine before I started so I had no issues, but most people tend to overestimate and this can have a funny consequence as the lifts won`t be able to be performed.
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Yeep!
http://stronglifts.com/how-to-add-100-pounds-to-your-squat-smolov/
There is even an Excel Spreadsheet included and it will give you your entire schedule. I have been doing it for a little over a month and have increased my squat and even have gone up in bodyweight and have gotten a lot leaner. At this point I`m pulling a Frank Zane and gaining weight and losing body fat versus the typical cut and lose weight.
I think if anyone follows this and does not deviate at all, they will get a similar result. One thing, DO NOT Overestimate your current 1RM squat or you will be sorry. I was dead on with mine before I started so I had no issues, but most people tend to overestimate and this can have a funny consequence as the lifts won`t be able to be performed.
Thanks Adam,I`ll give it a looksee.
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THE SQUAT
Down this road, in a gym far away,
a young man was heard to say,
"no matter what i do, my legs won't grow"
he tried leg extensions, leg curls, and leg presses , too
trying to cheat, these sissy workouts he'd do.
from the corner of the gym where the big men train,
through a cloud of chalk and the midst of pain
where the noise is made with big forty fives,
a deep voice bellowed as he wrapped his knees.
a very big man with legs like trees.
laughing as he snatched another plate from the stack
chalking his hands and monstrous back,
said, "boy, stop lying and don't say you've forgotten,
the trouble with you is you ain't been SQUATTIN'. "
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"I wouldn't tell somebody that they weren't a powerlifter because they only bench pressed, or they only bench pressed and deadlifted, but, what the hell is wrong with squatting? What are you, afraid? I thought powerlifters were supposed to be big, tough guys. Strap your cock on, leave your pussy at home, put a bar on your back and bend your knees!" - 'Captain' Kirk Karwoski
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come on you can't be serious
rules of weightlifting:
there are no magical routines or programs
my coach said so and he deadlifted 200kg with one hand, tore phone books and bent metal
You might want to re-evaluate your rules.
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Attention whore that guy....
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Attention whore that guy....
All natural as well...lol
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All natural as well...lol
Definition of roid rage
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Definition of roid rage
fella is on halotestin there,, also injects tne and nppiona with masterona propioneta and estrogen control in the form of aromasin he use aromasin not letro not arimidex,,impressive lifts but horrid HORRID physiqe,, for what he takes should look atleast like he lift weight,,
lean,, tall ,, hold to muscle due to the combo i mentioned,,and strong again mainly due to tne and halotestin what will make anyoen strong,, probably has strong bones too to begin with bones and tendoins...those fellas when add halo and tne...they become very very impressive when it comes to strength ,,
he does look very stringy and very much like a lost soul inbetween powerlifting and bodybuild,, like fella that is stuck and dont know what to do with himself,,this is also a reason for him going crazy ,,he is not fully right in the head
gh15 approved
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fella is on halotestin there,, also injects tne and nppiona with masterona propioneta and estrogen control in the form of aromasin he use aromasin not letro not arimidex,,impressive lifts but horrid HORRID physiqe,, for what he takes should look atleast like he lift weight,,
lean,, tall ,, hold to muscle due to the combo i mentioned,,and strong again mainly due to tne and halotestin what will make anyoen strong,, probably has strong bones too to begin with bones and tendoins...those fellas when add halo and tne...they become very very impressive when it comes to strength ,,
he does look very stringy and very much like a lost soul inbetween powerlifting and bodybuild,, like fella that is stuck and dont know what to do with himself,,this is also a reason for him going crazy ,,he is not fully right in the head
gh15 approved
Hell of a gh15 impersonation....I mean cut and paste. :D
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Halotestin Fell is on it, and also tne nppiona propioneta masterona injected and control form of estrogen Aromasin bill he did not use Arimidex Aromasin up physiqe impressive but terribly awful, should at least be considered as nangtrong,
thin, high, keep your muscles through a combination mentioned, and strong again, mainly due to tne halotestin and what anyoen strong, healthy bones may begin with the bones and tendoins ... halo guys and when tne more ... they become very, very impressive when it comes to power
looks like a lost soul and Fell fibers inbetween bodybuilder and Nikolov, both left and do not know what to do with yourself, this is another reason it's crazy, is not very good head
gh15 approved
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So what u think, not bad eh?
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So what u think, not bad eh?
Indeed... :o
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600 pound natural good mornings. :D
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I see bioLame posted it himself.... ::)
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600 pound natural good mornings. :D
Lot of forward lean,but good depth and right up out of the hole.
I`d say it was a pretty damn good lift.
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Lot of forward lean,but good depth and right up out of the hole.
I`d say it was a pretty damn good lift.
I can't do this, that's for sure.... :D
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Lot of forward lean,but good depth and right up out of the hole.
I`d say it was a pretty damn good lift.
It was good lift alright. Sadly i lift like that also, pretty tall and low bar position with depth mean a lot of forward lean with me. (no where near 600 pound :))
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WILL YOU SACRIFICE TO WIN??? oh brother.
I did a 20-rep squat program a couple years ago, you squat M-W-F doing one set of 20, add five lbs every workout. I gained a lot but blew a blood vessel or something in my head and had to stop, it gave me really bad headaches.
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Squats are one of the best exercises going. If you can't do them other exercises like the leg press, lunges and hacks are there. I only have a problem with guys that are to lazy to squat. They would rather bench and curl.
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Squats are one of the best exercises going. If you can't do them other exercises like the leg press, lunges and hacks are there. I only have a problem with guys that are to lazy to squat. They would rather bench and curl.
Yes, working your chest and arms is easy. Working your back and legs is hard. That is my theory anyway.
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Scooby is talking out of his ass. Nice guy but his ideas of training are look good oriented and he's making a science out of something that ain't one.
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lay nortom says he's too tall to squat properly yet this guy is 6'4" which i'm sure is not shorter than lay
no wonder lay's quad development is very poor the way he squats
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WILL YOU SACRIFICE TO WIN??? oh brother.
I did a 20-rep squat program a couple years ago, you squat M-W-F doing one set of 20, add five lbs every workout. I gained a lot but blew a blood vessel or something in my head and had to stop, it gave me really bad headaches.
i youtube searched "20 rep squat" and found this. hardcore motherfuker if you ask me
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315X42
Layne competed against this guy at the Raw Unity.
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Absolutely sickening.
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315X42
Layne competed against this guy at the Raw Unity.
same guy?
so who won...
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315X42
Layne competed against this guy at the Raw Unity.
Insane... He looks like nobody but destroyed that weight. That was all heart.
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Insane... He looks like nobody but destroyed that weight. That was all heart.
The interesting thing about this guy is that he did not even compete for 7 years in powerlifting, 2010 being his first meet in 7 years. He just trained like this all throughout. Insane leg strength.
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Overrated by a minority, underrated by majority.
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Here you go PureNaturalDebbieDowner,
He also used Smolov and gained 30 lbs to his squat. I hope this helps (I doubt that it will because you are nothing but a bitch)
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Insane... He looks like nobody but destroyed that weight. That was all heart.
his legs look big tho and his stats say 116kg bodyweight or something which is also heavy i wonder what his height is i'm thinking 6' or 6'1" ?
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Gives me "dat ass". Enough of a reason to keep squatting, DEEP.. ;]
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Here you go PureNaturalDebbieDowner,
He also used Smolov and gained 30 lbs to his squat. I hope this helps (I doubt that it will because you are nothing but a bitch)
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that guy is amazing because he squats like i think you should squat with the bar "high" and to complete range of motion
this tool rapes lay nortom in every way shape and form
but i'm sure he also uses hormones but probably a lot less than lay nortom
great lifter if u ask me
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Watched the video. This guy is a hysterical like a woman.
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315X42
Layne competed against this guy at the Raw Unity.
T-shirt and shorts, and for 42 reps!? This guy is all-right.
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I`ve been squatting around 4 times a week using Smolov Routine and I have increased my squat about 50 lbs in a month. I still have another month to go. I think Layne Norton also got similar results.
Yea ok 5'11 155lbs. Post some vids of your supernatural squat increase bro
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Insane... He looks like nobody but destroyed that weight. That was all heart.
What a fucking beast!!
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315X42
Layne competed against this guy at the Raw Unity.
That's INSANE :o :o
imagine what his quads felt like for the next 7 days
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Squatted today. Best leg mass building exercise period! Most people are just too weak to deal with the mental pain of squatting.
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Squatted today. Best leg mass building exercise period! Most people are just too weak to deal with the mental pain of squatting.
i hated lay nortom all the time then i found out he "is too tall to squat high bar full depth" and now i just pray for him to meet with a terrible accident
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Squatted today. Best leg mass building exercise period! Most people are just too weak to deal with the mental pain of squatting.
I agree , the single best exercise there is , is the barbell squat it works more muscles than any other single exercise there is , you bring up a great point people just can't deal with squatting and avoid it all costs
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We used to have a guy on Getbig who squatted 405x20.
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i hated lay nortom all the time then i found out he "is too tall to squat high bar full depth" and now i just pray for him to meet with a terrible accident
Layne Norton is a Dr. in natural protein synthesis - his douchy glasses help to protect his academic eyes during bukkake seminars.
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Layne Norton is a Dr. in natural protein synthesis - his douchy glasses help to protect his academic eyes during bukkake seminars.
lay nortom seems to have some form of asperger or other autism lolol
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Yes, working your chest and arms is easy. Working your back and legs is hard. That is my theory anyway.
You are right on target. Most look for an easy way.
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I prefer front squats, this guy's form is incredible.
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I agree , the single best exercise there is , is the barbell squat it works more muscles than any other single exercise there is , you bring up a great point people just can't deal with squatting and avoid it all costs
This is the reason why squats are sometimes overrated.
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I prefer front squats, this guy's form is incredible.
front squat form is easier because your torso can stay more vertical that way it's easier to maintain lower back tighness/arch
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I prefer front squats, this guy's form is incredible.
Insane.
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Useless exercise for a BB (unless u wanna build a fat ass and child bearing hips)
Awesome exercise if you are not geneticly predisposed to fat ass and child bearing hips - its all genetics.