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Title: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 08, 2011, 09:05:24 AM
No agenda here ::)


http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/11/08/110811-news-cain-accuser-1-3/
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: 225for70 on November 08, 2011, 09:07:08 AM
maybe cain let the tits word slip
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: funk51 on November 08, 2011, 09:11:10 AM
and sandusky worked for paterno.....
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Stark on November 08, 2011, 09:11:38 AM
You would have to take one of those rape showers after you are done "harassing" her
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: tu_holmes on November 08, 2011, 09:13:20 AM
What is her agenda?

I read the article and didn't see what that agenda was.

The fact she used to be a spokesperson for a couple of government agencies?

I'm confused.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: dr.chimps on November 08, 2011, 09:15:55 AM
Gotta feel for Coach, these days. Trying to run damage control for a 3rd-stringer's gotta be a tough gig.   :-\
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: reppingfor20 on November 08, 2011, 09:25:36 AM
LOL, coach you are just reaching so far, there are now 4 woman, Cain is a dirtbag, just admit it and find a real candidate or else Obama the President you hate so much will be in for another 4 years.

Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: 240 is Back on November 08, 2011, 09:27:46 AM
she worked for the govt during the clinton, bush and obama eras.

she might be full of shit.   she should take a polygraph, and so should cain.

he's losing support quickly all of a sudden - he needs to give america something other than "oh, that's a lie, NO NEEEED to look into it more!"

He should take 5 polygraphs and stand on the tallest tower shouting about it.  That's it.  Clear name like that, and he's the next president.

I suspect the candidate who bragged about being the only 'straight talker' will keep on using "i did not technically attempt a harassment technique" bullshit.

You fucked around, or you didn't - take a poly and shut them all up!  or pose with your bible and say how sorry you are.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: 240 is Back on November 08, 2011, 09:28:29 AM
LOL, coach you are just reaching so far, there are now 4 woman, Cain is a dirtbag, just admit it and find a real candidate or else Obama the President you hate so much will be in for another 4 years.



Ron paul 2012.

if you don't support him, then you probably deserve another 4 years of 0Bama.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: StuartR on November 08, 2011, 09:34:05 AM
No agenda here ::)


http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/11/08/110811-news-cain-accuser-1-3/

yeah, I`m sure when she falsely accused her boss at the restaurant association of sexual harassment--so convincingly that they paid her a settlement--it was all part of her 15 year plan to curry favor with obama once she secured her dream job in the inspector general`s office of the treasury department.

youre a fucking moron
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 08, 2011, 09:34:25 AM
Ron Paul is "out there" and a little wacked out. Cain maybe out so Perry it is.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: nder98 on November 08, 2011, 10:01:45 AM
yeah, I`m sure when she falsely accused her boss at the restaurant association of sexual harassment--so convincingly that they paid her a settlement--it was all part of her 15 year plan to curry favor with obama once she secured her dream job in the inspector general`s office of the treasury department.

youre a fucking moron

Ahhhh you know how many false sexual harassment suites are filed against large companies for sexual harresment???? Plenty, I have a friend that is on a retainer and she said its alot cheaper to pay a quick settlement to these people even if they the other party is guilty or not...  Its pretty strange how a politcal candidate thats is gaining momentum and is the one that can beat Obama starts having this accusers come out of the wood work.. BTW , dont call people "fucking morons" when they simply stating their opinion you fucking moron...
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: StuartR on November 08, 2011, 10:09:55 AM
Ahhhh you know how many false sexual harassment suites are filed against large companies for sexual harresment???? Plenty, I have a friend that is on a retainer and she said its alot cheaper to pay a quick settlement to these people even if they the other party is guilty or not...  Its pretty strange how a politcal candidate thats is gaining momentum and is the one that can beat Obama starts having this accusers come out of the wood work.. BTW , dont call people "fucking morons" when they simply stating their opinion you fucking moron...

first, whether or not its a false accusation is tangential to this discussion at best. His position is that the accusation is politically motivated because thje accuser ``works for the obama administration.`` This is ridiculous because 1) the accusations were made and settled long before she worked for the obama administration and 2) because she`s also worked for the bush administration during the course of her tenure.

second, how is it strange that someone would become concerned enough to speak out when they realize that someone who has perpetrated unethical acts against them in the past is running for the highest public office in the world?

third, a pattern of fucking moronic opinions makes you a fucking moron, you fucking moron  :D

Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: ChopperRider on November 08, 2011, 10:12:53 AM
Interesting how the media is spending all this attention on Cain, instead of on the fact that Obama's Chief of Staff just quit.

Smoke and mirrors......
 ::)
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Wiggs on November 08, 2011, 10:15:06 AM
Alright, I'm ready to concede....CAIN IS DONE.  BTW the last accuser number 4....WOULD HIT LIKE HERMAN WOULD HIT. :D
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: 240 is Back on November 08, 2011, 10:16:12 AM
"I'm gonna bring the pain like herman cain, girl.............."
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: nder98 on November 08, 2011, 10:20:29 AM
first, whether or not its a false accusation is tangential to this discussion at best. His position is that the accusation is politically motivated because thje accuser ``works for the obama administration.`` This is ridiculous because 1) the accusations were made and settled long before she worked for the obama administration and 2) because she`s also worked for the bush administration during the course of her tenure.

second, how is it strange that someone would become concerned enough to speak out when they realize that someone who has perpetrated unethical acts against them in the past is running for the highest public office in the world?

third, a pattern of fucking moronic opinions makes you a fucking moron, you fucking moron  :D


What makes you so sure that its not politically motivated?  How do you know she was not making false accusations?   Why would she wait until now, not a six months ago, not a year ago but now at the height of the presidental race to make a public statement saying she was harrased? Again, stating my option and im not going to resort to name calling. Thank you for you input you fucking Jagaloon.

Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: StuartR on November 08, 2011, 10:30:21 AM
What makes you so sure that its not politically motivated?  How do you know she was not making false accusations?   Why would she wait until now, not a six months ago, not a year ago but now at the height of the presidental race to make a public statement saying she was harrased? Again, stating my option and im not going to resort to name calling. Thank you for you input you fucking Jagaloon.



I`m not sure that coming forward wasn`t politically motivated, but the accusation itself wasn`t because it occurred years before cain was a political candidate. This is an important distinction because, in terms of judging cain`s character, it doesn`t matter whether or not an accuser comes forward, it matters whether he did it. Let`s say she`s a die hard democrat, does that then make it wrong for her to come forward, or right for him to have sexually harassed her? absolutely not.

its possible, of course, that she was lying when she accused him and she`s lying now. it sure isn`t probable, though, given that 1) there are multiple other accusers and 2) the only person involved in this situation who`s demonstrably lied about it is Cain, and repeatedly at that.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: nder98 on November 08, 2011, 10:51:43 AM
I`m not sure that coming forward wasn`t politically motivated, but the accusation itself wasn`t because it occurred years before cain was a political candidate. This is an important distinction because, in terms of judging cain`s character, it doesn`t matter whether or not an accuser comes forward, it matters whether he did it. Let`s say she`s a die hard democrat, does that then make it wrong for her to come forward, or right for him to have sexually harassed her? absolutely not.

its possible, of course, that she was lying when she accused him and she`s lying now. it sure isn`t probable, though, given that 1) there are multiple other accusers and 2) the only person involved in this situation who`s demonstrably lied about it is Cain, and repeatedly at that.

I know its alot to read but it was exactly what my answer to this question is^ Found it on this site and this guy hit the nail right on the head.



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This discussion was very good.

Why does such an an obvious double standard exist in the MSM when it comes to Republicans ans Democrats?

"When one contrasts the sexual harassment scandals of Democrat Bill Clinton, which included on the record accusers, with the hazy allegations against Republican Herman Cain, it becomes clear that the networks have enthusiasm for one and ignored the other."


Quote:
After four days of media frenzy over Cain’s sexual harassment allegations, we still don’t know the facts or the accusers. We still don’t have the evidence. But that is not important for the mainstream media. For them, Cain is guilty until proven innocent. Why? Because Cain is not a liberal. If he were liberal, they’d protect him as they protected and defended Bill Clinton.

Cain’s accusers are still anonymous. Three women publicly accused Bill Clinton of far more serious instances of sexual harassment in the 1990s, but the networks all but ignored them. The coverage that did exist was often skeptical, insulting and hostile, an astonishing double standard.

PAULA JONES

- Paula Jones, who accused Bill Clinton of exposing himself to her in a hotel room when she was a state employee in Arkansas, held a public press conference in February 1994, CBS and NBC ignored those charges, while ABC devoted just 16 seconds to Jones’ press conference.

As a January 29, 1998 Media Reality Check pointed out, “The rest of the media waited three months, until Jones filed suit, and the networks then did just 21 stories in that month.”

…Tom Brokaw dismissed, ”It didn’t seem to most people, entirely relevant to what was going on at the time. These are the kind of charges raised about the President before.”

…in June 1994, anchor Charles Gibson wanted to know: “Why does anyone care what this woman has to say?“ [...] Newsweek editor Evan Thomas…derided Jones as “some sleazy woman with big hair.” (This was on the May 7, 1994 Inside Washington.)

KATHLEEN WILLEY

- In the case of Kathleen Willey, who said Bill Clinton groped her in the Oval Office while President, the networks gave minimal coverage to that story when it was broke by Newsweek magazine in late July 1997.

On July 30, 1997, the CBS Evening News aired a story, but managed not to mention Willey by name…ABC delicately approached the subject…

CBS gave it one minute on the July 30 Evening News, with brief items on the July 31 CBS Evening News and NBC Nightly News. Willey eventually became a big news story when CBS’s 60 Minutes interviewed her in March 1998, during the Lewinsky scandal.

“Wow! That was something,” Today co-host Matt Lauer exclaimed on March 16, 1998, reacting to the 60 Minutes story. There was no introspection as to why it took Today and other outlets so long to cover the charges.

JUANITA BROADDRICK

- In the case of Juanita Broaddrick, who publicly came forward to say Bill Clinton raped her while he was the Arkansas Attorney General and a candidate for Governor, the networks offered weekend coverage in March 1998, when the charge surfaced in a court filing by Paula Jones’ attorneys. NBC interviewed Broaddrick for a Dateline special in January 1999, but the airing was delayed until February 24, 1999, after the end of Clinton’s impeachment trial. [...]

During the period of February 19-28, as NBC prepared to finally air its Dateline special, ABC virtually ignored the controversy. World News and Nightline skipped it. Good Morning America allowed two brief mentions. This Week briefly discussed it.

CBS allowed just one story on the February 20th Evening News.

Considering that NBC had the scoop, it’s not surprising that the network offered more coverage. While Nightly News ignored it…

When one contrasts the sexual harassment scandals of Democrat Bill Clinton, which included on the record accusers, with the hazy allegations against Republican Herman Cain, it becomes clear that the networks have enthusiasm for one and ignored the other.

http://factreal.wordpress.com/2011/1...ment-and-rape/
 
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: 240 is Back on November 08, 2011, 11:09:46 AM
those scandals are from the 1990s.

it's 2011.

Sex is WAY bigger on tv these days.

Weiner sending a pic of his underwear to some chick in seattle was 24/7 breaking news for 2 weeks.

You have to compare cain to a more RECENT sex scandal.  back in 1994, they didn't have 24/7 news coverage.  You had 30 minutes of ABC news every night at 6:30 pm, with Peter jennings, after your 6 pm local news.   Then it was time for wheel of fortune and jeopardy :)

You have to fill 24 hours a day news.

Plus, you get more "pissed off", more "damn, hell, slut, whore, bitch" on TV these days.  Cleavage and jokes about bending a girl over and seen on 8 pm sitcoms - not seen 20 years ago in primetime.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 08, 2011, 11:28:52 AM
those scandals are from the 1990s.

it's 2011.

Sex is WAY bigger on tv these days.

Weiner sending a pic of his underwear to some chick in seattle was 24/7 breaking news for 2 weeks.

You have to compare cain to a more RECENT sex scandal.  back in 1994, they didn't have 24/7 news coverage.  You had 30 minutes of ABC news every night at 6:30 pm, with Peter jennings, after your 6 pm local news.   Then it was time for wheel of fortune and jeopardy :)

You have to fill 24 hours a day news.

Plus, you get more "pissed off", more "damn, hell, slut, whore, bitch" on TV these days.  Cleavage and jokes about bending a girl over and seen on 8 pm sitcoms - not seen 20 years ago in primetime.

Who gives a fuck when they were from? The point is that it happen and he got a pass. Ted Kennedy accused of rape and killed a women while drunk driving, he got a pass. Obama and the NUMEROUS things he did, got a pass. Liberals and Liberal press are pieces of shit plain and simple. The routinely get their asses KICKED on EVERY issue and this is the only way they know how to fight back. Lying cheats.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Reeves on November 08, 2011, 11:34:38 AM
Who gives a fuck when they were from? The point is that it happen and he got a pass. Ted Kennedy accused of rape and killed a women while drunk driving, he got a pass. Obama and the NUMEROUS things he did, got a pass. Liberals and Liberal press are pieces of shit plain and simple. The routinely get their asses KICKED on EVERY issue and this is the only way they know how to fight back. Lying cheats.

Coach is right.  Shit, they gave Arnold a pass but then, he's nothing more than a RINO.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Parker on November 08, 2011, 11:35:14 AM
Who gives a fuck when they were from? The point is that it happen and he got a pass. Ted Kennedy accused of rape and killed a women while drunk driving, he got a pass. Obama and the NUMEROUS things he did, got a pass. Liberals and Liberal press are pieces of shit plain and simple. The routinely get their asses KICKED on EVERY issue and this is the only way they know how to fight back. Lying cheats.
And the repubs are always claiming to be the "moral" party. When both should know, it's human---character failings. Politics seems to draw the needy, the greedy and the slap happy stupid. And all claim to be "better" than their competitor---hijacking morality...
It was only a woman---Messalina that was true to her ways and really used to it to her advantage.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: ChopperRider on November 08, 2011, 11:37:46 AM
Coach is right.  Shit, they gave Arnold a pass but then, he's nothing more than a RINO.

Succinct and right to the point as always.....kudos.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: dr.chimps on November 08, 2011, 11:40:23 AM
Is Coach really arguing Clinton got a pass!? He must not of been living through the same '90's I was, then. Clinton got hounded before he took office until he left. The press was all over it for years. I think he settled with Jones the year before he left office ('99?) and still it didn't end there.  
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: dr.chimps on November 08, 2011, 11:42:25 AM
And the repubs are always claiming to be the "moral" party. When both should know, it's human---character failings. Politics seems to draw the needy, the greedy and the slap happy stupid. And all claim to be "better" than their competitor---hijacking morality...
It was only a woman---Messalina that was true to her ways and really used to it to her advantage.
Right up until one of their 'family values' reps is caught in a Minneapolis airport toilet with a wide-stance, or in a hotel room with a rent-boy.   ;D
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 08, 2011, 11:44:05 AM
No agenda here ::)


http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/11/08/110811-news-cain-accuser-1-3/


If it was only one person making the accusation but now its 5 of them total.  Herman Cain is pretty much done
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: mwbbuilder on November 08, 2011, 12:49:49 PM
When I run for president, I'm going to use Arnold line and they won't even pursue all the groping I 've done in my past

Yes. I have been a naughty boy who acted inappropriate at time.

Next subject.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: nder98 on November 09, 2011, 09:58:40 AM
Just another whore hired by the leftist media to smear the top contender for the presidential candidacy..

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/cain_accuser_filed_complaint_in_BCnUvrPmCvl65O27I72TKJ


Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: reppingfor20 on November 09, 2011, 09:10:36 PM
Ron Paul is "out there" and a little wacked out. Cain maybe out so Perry it is.

here's your man !

Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Dos Equis on November 09, 2011, 10:33:30 PM
Ron paul 2012.

if you don't support him, then you probably deserve another 4 years of 0Bama.

LOL! 

Thune 2012.

Bachmann 2012.

Huntsman 2012!

Perry 2012... it's gonna be the ticket.  Without a doubt.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Emmortal on November 09, 2011, 10:38:02 PM
Ron Paul is "out there" and a little wacked out. Cain maybe out so Perry it is.

You would vote for this guy over Ron Paul?  Holy shit....

Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: 240 is Back on November 10, 2011, 05:02:10 AM
LOL! 


LOL @ a grown ass man spending that much time scanning my old posts.  sheesh! 
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 10, 2011, 05:14:27 AM
Coach went from supporting a liar to supporting an empty suit wacko.  Shows how smart dumb he really is by thinking Perry even a prayer of a chance.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 10, 2011, 05:50:17 AM
Coach went from supporting a liar to supporting an empty suit wacko.  Shows how smart dumb he really is by thinking Perry even a prayer of a chance.

Lmao from an obama voter casting stones.   
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Butterbean on November 10, 2011, 06:50:37 AM
Ron Paul is "out there" and a little wacked out. Cain maybe out so Perry it is.

Please consider Newt (and Bachmann) before Perry.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: dario73 on November 10, 2011, 07:18:49 AM
Lmao from an obama voter casting stones.   
LOL!!

The biggest idiots are the nitwits who voted for Obama in 2008 and will vote for his reelection in 2012. No. Really. You are that stupid.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Butterbean on November 10, 2011, 07:24:03 AM
LOL!!

The biggest idiots are the nitwits who voted for Obama in 2008 and will vote for his reelection in 2012. No. Really. You are that stupid.

Saw a couple Obama 2012 bumperstickers recently.  Can't understand it.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: 225for70 on November 10, 2011, 07:25:13 AM
I'm convinced Rick Perry uses drugs..
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 10, 2011, 07:25:58 AM
Saw a couple Obama 2012 bumperstickers recently.  Can't understand it.



Most obamabots live in an alternate universe.  

Again - what does he plan on doing in a second term?   Seriously - why does he need or want a second term?  I want one obamabot to give me one reason obama needs a second term.  
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 10, 2011, 07:26:34 AM
LOL!!

The biggest idiots are the nitwits who voted for Obama in 2008 and will vote for his reelection in 2012. No. Really. You are that stupid.

Not quite as big as the idiots that live in the universe that Jesus is said to have created.

Yes, really.  You ARE that stupid.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 10, 2011, 07:27:47 AM
Lmao from an obama voter casting stones.   

Coming from a Palin and Trump supporter, not to mention the biggest pathological liar on the board, it looks like some of those cast stones have hit you in the face.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Butterbean on November 10, 2011, 07:28:02 AM
Not quite as big as the idiots that live in the universe that Jesus is said to have created.

Yes, really.  You ARE that stupid.

ummm what lol

Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MCWAY on November 10, 2011, 07:30:48 AM
Ahhhh you know how many false sexual harassment suites are filed against large companies for sexual harresment???? Plenty, I have a friend that is on a retainer and she said its alot cheaper to pay a quick settlement to these people even if they the other party is guilty or not...  Its pretty strange how a politcal candidate thats is gaining momentum and is the one that can beat Obama starts having this accusers come out of the wood work.. BTW , dont call people "fucking morons" when they simply stating their opinion you fucking moron...

It really gets strange when one is in hock to David Axelrod for thousands of dollars, has filed for bankruptcy twice, is supported by a fiance' who (according to his ex-wife) is about to file for bankruptcy, who's had 9 jobs in 17 years, and who has a son (conceived via an adulterous affair with her boss, the CEO of the company).


Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 10, 2011, 07:31:01 AM
ummm what lol



You have to get the story from retardario on that one.  He claims Jesus created the Earth and the universe.  
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Butterbean on November 10, 2011, 07:32:49 AM
You have to get the story from retardario on that one.  He claims Jesus created the Earth and the universe.  

I believe that too :)

But we all live in that universe.  Or maybe you were just referring to those that you believe are "idiots" (which I'm sure would include me now)  ;D
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 10, 2011, 07:38:31 AM
Last I checked, the christian bible says God created the Earth and the universe.  Long before he became Mary's baby daddy. 

According to Dario, Jesus is the one that created the Earth and universe.  So apparently Baby Jesus traveled back in time, created this place and then jumped back forward so he could be born into it.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 10, 2011, 07:39:58 AM
Last I checked, the christian bible says God created the Earth and the universe.  Long before he became Mary's baby daddy. 

According to Dario, Jesus is the one that created the Earth and universe.  So apparently Baby Jesus traveled back in time, created this place and then jumped back forward so he could be born into it.


Did you get your 2012 sticker yet on your Prius? 
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 10, 2011, 07:45:47 AM
No, I bought a Pray Away The Gay one to support of Bachmanns cure for you.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: nder98 on November 10, 2011, 11:13:21 AM

Did you get your 2012 sticker yet on your Prius? 

LOL so funny cus I see the same lady on the thruway
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Butterbean on November 10, 2011, 11:15:46 AM
Last I checked, the christian bible says God created the Earth and the universe.  Long before he became Mary's baby daddy. 

According to Dario, Jesus is the one that created the Earth and universe.  So apparently Baby Jesus traveled back in time, created this place and then jumped back forward so he could be born into it.

He's probably just naming Jesus as he talks about the Triune God.  In Christianity, God is seen as one God in three "persons,"  The Father, The Son (Jesus) and The Holy Spirit.

It's a difficult concept (and hard to explain!) but they are one and the same, yet separate.

Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 10, 2011, 11:19:30 AM
He's probably just naming Jesus as he talks about the Triune God.  In Christianity, God is seen as one God in three "persons,"  The Father, The Son (Jesus) and The Holy Spirit.

It's a difficult concept (and hard to explain!) but they are one and the same, yet separate.



No.  He was talking about Jesus.  The man.  The son of God.  You know... "the dude". 

When asked why Jesus isn't running on the GOP ticket he replied with some wack shit about how Jesus doesn't need to run on the GOP ticket and rule the US because he rules the Earth and the universe that he himself created.

Best  not to try to make sense of it.  It isn't the only brain fart he believes in either.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MindSpin on November 10, 2011, 11:22:24 AM


Most obamabots live in an alternate universe.  

Again - what does he plan on doing in a second term?   Seriously - why does he need or want a second term?  I want one obamabot to give me one reason obama needs a second term.  

Because the alternative is a republican and most republicans are racist & want to limit my personal freedoms.  I'll take Obama over that all day long.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 10, 2011, 11:24:24 AM
Because the alternative is a republican and most republicans are racist & want to limit my personal freedoms.  I'll take Obama over that all day long.


LMFAO!!!!    The left want to control your paycheck, your economic rights, your free speech rights, your food rights, etc.   

   
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Butterbean on November 10, 2011, 11:30:04 AM
No.  He was talking about Jesus.  The man.  The son of God.  You know... "the dude". 

When asked why Jesus isn't running on the GOP ticket he replied with some wack shit about how Jesus doesn't need to run on the GOP ticket and rule the US because he rules the Earth and the universe that he himself created.

Best  not to try to make sense of it.  It isn't the only brain fart he believes in either.

He is likely just asserting that Jesus possesses all of the power of what God the Father possesses (both part of the one Triune God) and that He is in ultimate control of all things.

Did the person who asked why Jesus isn't running on the GOP ticket think He is still here in an earthly body?  Sound like an interesting thread if you happen to have a link.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Butterbean on November 10, 2011, 11:31:57 AM
Because the alternative is a republican and most republicans are racist & want to limit my personal freedoms.  I'll take Obama over that all day long.

Mindspring!! ;D  Hope all is well.


Can you please share what personal freedoms are you concerned about?
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 10, 2011, 11:35:08 AM
Mindspring!! ;D  Hope all is well.


Can you please share what personal freedoms are you concerned about?


Killing ones' baby and marrying another fag are the only things most demos give a shit about.   
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MCWAY on November 10, 2011, 11:35:43 AM
Yep!!

CNN just put this out! Kraushaar's backing out of the press conference, if the other accusers don't show. So far, Bialek has not committed.

First on CNN: Kraushaar won't do news conference without other accusers
 
CNN Chief Political Analyst Gloria Borger
Washington (CNN) - Herman Cain accuser Karen Kraushaar is "not considering a press conference" if only she and the other named accuser, Sharon Bialek, are willing to participate, according to a source close to Kraushaar.

"She still would like to have a press conference with all four women" who have accused Cain of sexual harassment, the source said, but it has not yet come together.

Thursday morning, Kraushaar's attorney, Joel Bennett, told reporters that she has called the two anonymous accusers, but they have not returned her calls.

The source told CNN that Kraushaar has not yet decided what she will do, if anything, on her own if the two remaining accusers want to stay private.

In a statement Wednesday, Kraushaar said: "We are still hopeful that they will have the courage to come forward, but we completely understand if they choose not to."

Earlier this week, Kraushaar told CNN that she has copies of records detailing allegations against Cain and that it is possible she could release them. She also said it would send a powerful message if all the accusers stood together to refute Cain.

At this point, however, the source said no decision has been made about Kraushaar's next step if a news conference with all four women does not come together.

Bennett said Wednesday that it was likely that Kraushaar would do a newser if only Bialek committed, but that is now not the case, according to the source.

Cain has repeatedly said that he has never sexually harassed anyone.

 


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/10/first-on-cnn-kraushaar-wont-do-news-conference-without-other-accusers/
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Butterbean on November 10, 2011, 11:36:26 AM

Killing ones' baby and marrying another fag are the only things most demos give a shit about.   

He said his personal freedoms though.  I don't think either of those would apply to him.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 10, 2011, 11:39:01 AM
He said his personal freedoms though.  I don't think either of those would apply to him.

Abortion and Gay Marriage are like sacraments to the far left. 
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 10, 2011, 11:46:30 AM
He is likely just asserting that Jesus possesses all of the power of what God the Father possesses (both part of the one Triune God) and that He is in ultimate control of all things.

Did the person who asked why Jesus isn't running on the GOP ticket think He is still here in an earthly body?  Sound like an interesting thread if you happen to have a link.

Again, you have to ask retardario that one.  No one else could figure why he thought Jesus did it too.  Not God, not the Holy Ghost.  Jesus as in the prophet.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MindSpin on November 10, 2011, 12:00:20 PM

Killing ones' baby and marrying another fag are the only things most demos give a shit about.   

lol
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MindSpin on November 10, 2011, 12:08:30 PM
Mindspring!! ;D  Hope all is well.


Can you please share what personal freedoms are you concerned about?

I want the freedom to smoke pot while watching anal cream pie porn.  The bible thumping right wants to take that away. 

I want the freedom to send my kids to school without them being forced to pray to Jesus.  The bible thumping right wants to force us all to thump that bible.

And yes, if gay people want to marry each other let them. 

As long as the republicans are the party of the Christian right I will always vote against them, even if I have to deal with unions, higher taxes and the rest of the baggage that democrats come with.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 10, 2011, 12:19:35 PM
I want the freedom to smoke pot while watching anal cream pie porn.  The bible thumping right wants to take that away. 

I want the freedom to send my kids to school without them being forced to pray to Jesus.  The bible thumping right wants to force us all to thump that bible.

And yes, if gay people want to marry each other let them. 

As long as the republicans are the party of the Christian right I will always vote against them, even if I have to deal with unions, higher taxes and the rest of the baggage that democrats come with.


LMFAO!!!!!   Are you a fucking idiot or what?   Obama is the one cracking down on pot in California you stupid idiot!   
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MindSpin on November 10, 2011, 02:45:31 PM

LMFAO!!!!!   Are you a fucking idiot or what?   Obama is the one cracking down on pot in California you stupid idiot!  

wrong wrong wrong.  Oh, and I love how you have to call me a "stupid idiot" instead of sticking to the issue...classic.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 10, 2011, 02:50:36 PM
wrong wrong wrong.  Oh, and I love how you have to call me a "stupid idiot" instead of sticking to the issue...classic.

See - this is where you obamabots expose yourselves for being the ignorant fools you are. 

Obama recently broke his promise on the pot issue and the far left is going crazy over it. 

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/10/obama_administration_memo_spel.php

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/25/medical-marijuana-protest-obama-san-francisco_n_1031668.html

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/health/medical-treatments/pot-smokers-sue-obama-over-california-medical-marijuana-crackdown






Geez - cant you obamabots at least educate yourselves!!!!
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MindSpin on November 10, 2011, 03:04:21 PM
See - this is where you obamabots expose yourselves for being the ignorant fools you are. 

Obama recently broke his promise on the pot issue and the far left is going crazy over it. 

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/10/obama_administration_memo_spel.php

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/25/medical-marijuana-protest-obama-san-francisco_n_1031668.html

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/health/medical-treatments/pot-smokers-sue-obama-over-california-medical-marijuana-crackdown






Geez - cant you obamabots at least educate yourselves!!!!

Nice try, but as I said, wrong wrong wrong: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/obama-administration-medical-marijuana-crackdown-california_n_1033482.html

As most people do, including you, I go ultimately with my gut.  Not the avalanche of cut & paste propaganda.  And, my gut tells me that the Christian right is anti-gay, anti porn, anti immigration, anti marijuana and all for imposing their religious views on everyone.  Basically, it's the party of hatred.  Any candidate aligned with those values or who is financed by special interests aligned with those values will not get my vote.   

Hope that helps :)

Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 10, 2011, 03:07:55 PM
LMFAO!!!!   Did you even read your own damn link?   Even the local politicians are not buying into obamas' pathetic excuses as usual.   

Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2011, 04:13:37 PM
Yep!!

CNN just put this out! Kraushaar's backing out of the press conference, if the other accusers don't show. So far, Bialek has not committed.

First on CNN: Kraushaar won't do news conference without other accusers
 
CNN Chief Political Analyst Gloria Borger
Washington (CNN) - Herman Cain accuser Karen Kraushaar is "not considering a press conference" if only she and the other named accuser, Sharon Bialek, are willing to participate, according to a source close to Kraushaar.

"She still would like to have a press conference with all four women" who have accused Cain of sexual harassment, the source said, but it has not yet come together.

Thursday morning, Kraushaar's attorney, Joel Bennett, told reporters that she has called the two anonymous accusers, but they have not returned her calls.

The source told CNN that Kraushaar has not yet decided what she will do, if anything, on her own if the two remaining accusers want to stay private.

In a statement Wednesday, Kraushaar said: "We are still hopeful that they will have the courage to come forward, but we completely understand if they choose not to."

Earlier this week, Kraushaar told CNN that she has copies of records detailing allegations against Cain and that it is possible she could release them. She also said it would send a powerful message if all the accusers stood together to refute Cain.

At this point, however, the source said no decision has been made about Kraushaar's next step if a news conference with all four women does not come together.

Bennett said Wednesday that it was likely that Kraushaar would do a newser if only Bialek committed, but that is now not the case, according to the source.

Cain has repeatedly said that he has never sexually harassed anyone.

 


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/10/first-on-cnn-kraushaar-wont-do-news-conference-without-other-accusers/

What difference does it make if the others participate?   ::)  If she wants the attention, just go ahead and air her stuff already.  I'm actually interested to hear what the allegations are in light of her being offended by the computer joke. 
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MCWAY on November 10, 2011, 05:03:15 PM
What difference does it make if the others participate?   ::)  If she wants the attention, just go ahead and air her stuff already.  I'm actually interested to hear what the allegations are in light of her being offended by the computer joke.  

Now, she won't do it by herself or with just Bialek.

My guess is that, when she finally give the specifics, she'll be laughed to scorn as she was with that silliness at her subsequent job after the NRA.

Throw in TJ Ward's findings with the voice analysis, deeming Bialek a liar vs. Cain telling the truth and there you have it.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 10, 2011, 05:06:11 PM
Cain defamation lawyer hired to monitor accusations (It's Go Time!)
reuters ^ | 11/10/2011 | Tabassum Zakaria
Posted on November 10, 2011 7:01:32 PM EST by tobyhill

Herman Cain, who is seeking the Republican presidential nomination, has hired a high-profile defamation lawyer to keep an eye on the sexual harassment accusations made public by two women this week.

Atlanta attorney Lin Wood told Reuters Thursday he was not hired to scare, intimidate or threaten anyone from making statements, but to monitor the accusations against Cain and respond accordingly.

Wood, a top libel and defamation lawyer, was hired on Monday morning when it became clear that Sharon Bialek was about to become the first of four women alleging inappropriate behavior by Cain to go public with her accusations.

"I would certainly at some point and time give him my legal evaluation of whether any of these particular statements are potentially actionable," Wood said. "But I was not hired to run out and file a lawsuit against anybody."

The two public accusers -- Bialek and Karen Kraushaar -- are planning to hold a joint news conference, but it has not been scheduled. They have accused Cain of inappropriate behavior in the late 1990s when he was head of the National Restaurant Association.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...

Hope he sues the crap out these gold diggers. 
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MCWAY on November 10, 2011, 05:09:13 PM
Cain defamation lawyer hired to monitor accusations (It's Go Time!)
reuters ^ | 11/10/2011 | Tabassum Zakaria
Posted on November 10, 2011 7:01:32 PM EST by tobyhill

Herman Cain, who is seeking the Republican presidential nomination, has hired a high-profile defamation lawyer to keep an eye on the sexual harassment accusations made public by two women this week.

Atlanta attorney Lin Wood told Reuters Thursday he was not hired to scare, intimidate or threaten anyone from making statements, but to monitor the accusations against Cain and respond accordingly.

Wood, a top libel and defamation lawyer, was hired on Monday morning when it became clear that Sharon Bialek was about to become the first of four women alleging inappropriate behavior by Cain to go public with her accusations.

"I would certainly at some point and time give him my legal evaluation of whether any of these particular statements are potentially actionable," Wood said. "But I was not hired to run out and file a lawsuit against anybody."

The two public accusers -- Bialek and Karen Kraushaar -- are planning to hold a joint news conference, but it has not been scheduled. They have accused Cain of inappropriate behavior in the late 1990s when he was head of the National Restaurant Association.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...

Hope he sues the crap out these gold diggers. 

CNN is reporting that she won't do it with just Bialek. She wants the other anonymous accusers to come forward. Plus, Bialek hasn't said if she'd participate one way or the other.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2011, 05:09:38 PM
Now, she won't do it by herself or with just Bialek.

My guess is that, when she finally give the specifics, she'll be laughed to scorn as she was with that silliness at her subsequent job after the NRA.

Throw in TJ Ward's findings with the voice analysis, deeming Bialek a liar vs. Cain telling the truth and there you have it.

She's probably smart enough to know Bialek is full of crap.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2011, 05:10:48 PM
Cain defamation lawyer hired to monitor accusations (It's Go Time!)
reuters ^ | 11/10/2011 | Tabassum Zakaria
Posted on November 10, 2011 7:01:32 PM EST by tobyhill

Herman Cain, who is seeking the Republican presidential nomination, has hired a high-profile defamation lawyer to keep an eye on the sexual harassment accusations made public by two women this week.

Atlanta attorney Lin Wood told Reuters Thursday he was not hired to scare, intimidate or threaten anyone from making statements, but to monitor the accusations against Cain and respond accordingly.

Wood, a top libel and defamation lawyer, was hired on Monday morning when it became clear that Sharon Bialek was about to become the first of four women alleging inappropriate behavior by Cain to go public with her accusations.

"I would certainly at some point and time give him my legal evaluation of whether any of these particular statements are potentially actionable," Wood said. "But I was not hired to run out and file a lawsuit against anybody."

The two public accusers -- Bialek and Karen Kraushaar -- are planning to hold a joint news conference, but it has not been scheduled. They have accused Cain of inappropriate behavior in the late 1990s when he was head of the National Restaurant Association.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...

Hope he sues the crap out these gold diggers. 

Isn't he the guy who represented the falsely accused Olympic Park bomber? 
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MCWAY on November 10, 2011, 05:26:00 PM
Isn't he the guy who represented the falsely accused Olympic Park bomber? 

Indeed he is!

And conveniently, once he shows up, Kraushaar chickens out!!!
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 10, 2011, 05:30:53 PM
Indeed he is!

And conveniently, once he shows up, Kraushaar chickens out!!!


Cain is not my top choice , but what is being done to him is disgusting.    It's awful and typical of the communist left.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2011, 05:32:11 PM
Indeed he is!

And conveniently, once he shows up, Kraushaar chickens out!!!

Smart move by Cain.  Would not surprise me if these women slink bank into obscurity. 
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: reppingfor20 on November 10, 2011, 05:56:51 PM

Cain is not my top choice , but what is being done to him is disgusting.    It's awful and typical of the communist left.

yeah it is a terrible day when your past comes out, he shouldn't have run for office, he has too many skeletons in his closet, a lot of skeletons lol.

Also what is this communist left you are talking about, I never heard of such a party in this country.  Please answer.


Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 10, 2011, 05:58:18 PM
yeah it is a terrible day when your past comes out, he shouldn't have run for office, he has too many skeletons in his closet, a lot of skeletons lol.

Also what is this communist left you are talking about, I never heard of such a party in this country.  Please answer.





Ayeres, wright, rezko, dohrn,     Go away twat. 
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Lord of the Roidz on November 10, 2011, 06:22:53 PM
yeah it is a terrible day when your past comes out, he shouldn't have run for office, he has too many skeletons in his closet, a lot of skeletons lol.

Also what is this communist left you are talking about, I never heard of such a party in this country.  Please answer.



This sounds like an Adonis gimmick . Referring to your alleged 20 rep deadlift perhaps ?
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Fury on November 10, 2011, 06:42:45 PM
This sounds like an Adonis gimmick . Referring to your alleged 20 rep deadlift perhaps ?

It's Jtsunami and he's not an Adonis gimmick. He is, however, the gimmick of another prominent gimmick user.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: reppingfor20 on November 10, 2011, 06:51:06 PM

Ayeres, wright, rezko, dohrn,     Go away twat. 

lol you hate it when reasonable people come in your threads, you are an extremist with crazy views and close minded.



Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: tu_holmes on November 10, 2011, 08:45:24 PM
I really hate how the media and the democrats jump all over a guy with zero proof.

I have no doubt that I would have 1 or 2 women jump up and scream harassment with zero proof and it would be all bullshit.

People crucify people in this country with ZERO proof of any wrong doing and I can't fucking stand it.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 10, 2011, 10:19:46 PM
Dear Mindspin...its already been proven that liberals are 10x's more racist than repubs. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: outby43 on November 10, 2011, 10:23:39 PM
Dear Mindspin...its already been proven that liberals are 10x's more racist than repubs. Hope this helps.

where is this study at?  I would like to read it.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 10, 2011, 10:48:42 PM

Cain is not my top choice , but what is being done to him is disgusting.    It's awful and typical of the communist left.


Let's see...you have 5 women...one being a Tea Party Republican and 2 separate settlements for over 70k apiece.


Its not a conspiracy
Its not Rick Perry's campaign
Its not Obama
Its not the democrats
Its not the communists

Herman Cain has blamed all of these people over the past few days and it only makes him even more guilty.  At this point, he's pretty much finished

Its simply Herman Cain
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: 240 is Back on November 10, 2011, 11:01:43 PM
Republicans aren't going to pick herman cain to be the nominee.

he's been in the vetting process for a month or two.  If you had to predict "which of the repub candidates probably have the most skeletons in the closet", it'd be cain.

Just vote for one of the other Republicans, please!
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MCWAY on November 11, 2011, 06:20:11 AM

Let's see...you have 5 women...one being a Tea Party Republican and 2 separate settlements for over 70k apiece.


Its not a conspiracy
Its not Rick Perry's campaign
Its not Obama
Its not the democrats
Its not the communists

Herman Cain has blamed all of these people over the past few days and it only makes him even more guilty.  At this point, he's pretty much finished

Its simply Herman Cain

Is that right?

He's raised over 9 million dollars since this mess happen.
He's still at or near the top in the polls.
He got a rousing ovation, responding to a CNBC panelist, who tried to lampoon him with this issue Wednesday night.

As for his accusers, first there aren't five. The alleged 5th one simply complained about being asked to dinner during a conference and claimed Cain stiffed her and her friends with a $400 wine tab.

The other two anonymous one have said ZILCH.

Bialek is a broke gold-digger, who just happens to live in the same building with David Axelrod and owes him thousands of dollars. She has a history of screwing her bosses (with a now-13-year-old son to prove it). And, to top it all off, she was seen taking pics and hugging Cain a month ago, with her behavior described as "flirtatious".

We now learn that Axelrod's buddy, Sheila O'Grady (from the Illinois Restaurant Association) dug up Cain's NRA files. And, as has been observed, it's just too cozy that all of Cain's known accusers and their associates just happen to come from Chicago, where Cain has never lived (as far as we know).

Kraushaar, the previously anonymous one, who got $46,000 in a severance deal, made bogus sexual harassment charges as her subsequent job at the NRA. To this day, she has yet to give the specifics of what Cain supposedly did, despite being cleared to do so for a week. Furthermore, she has conveniently CANCELED her big press conference, because she doesn't want to do it alone or just with Bialek.

Cain's continued support seems to be showing that most people see this mess for the hit job that it is.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MCWAY on November 11, 2011, 06:22:30 AM
Republicans aren't going to pick herman cain to be the nominee.

he's been in the vetting process for a month or two.  If you had to predict "which of the repub candidates probably have the most skeletons in the closet", it'd be cain.

Just vote for one of the other Republicans, please!

Who ultimately gets the vote remains to be seen. Officially, Cain has no skeletons in his closets, because so far NONE OF THESE ALLEGATIONS have been proven to be true.


Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 11, 2011, 06:24:25 AM
This was all a distraction by the far left to hide Obama's incompetence and treason in office. 
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MCWAY on November 11, 2011, 06:27:36 AM
And, per the link you gave about TJ Ward voice software analyzer, it's apparently official.

Karen Kraushaar has canceled her press conference:

HERMAN CAIN ACCUSERS' PRESS CONFERENCE HITS A SNAG

 


The lawyer for one of Herman Cain's sexual harassment accusers said today that there won't be a press conference featuring each of the female accusers.

Karen Kraushaar’s attorney, Joel Bennet told The New York Times that they were unable to set up the joint news conference, and will not speak further.

Bennett told The Times: 'She will have no further comment until that time and she and I will not be granting any interviews to the media before any such press conference.'

Kraushaar, the second Cain accuser to be named in the scandal, told the paper earlier this week that she was interested in joining the other women in speaking publicly.

 


Rough translation: "I know this was all about standing up for the victims of harassment and justice in the workplace. But, now I can't do it, because I've been exposed as a serial harassment screamer and my blonde buddy, as a broke gold-digger with ties to Obama administration cronies."

And, wasn't it Bennett who been proclaiming for a week and a half that Kraushaar's been eager to talk about the specifics of her charges? Last time, the excuse was the confidentiality clause (which NRA waived last week); this time, she won't do it by herself or with just her and Bialek. What's the excuse now?
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 11, 2011, 06:35:29 AM
Video: The obligatory “voice-stress analyst says Herman Cain’s telling the truth” clip
Hotair ^ | 11/11/2011 | Allahpundit

Posted on Friday, November 11, 2011 9:39:49 AM by SeekAndFind

Half a dozen people e-mailed us this clip because they think it tells us something significant. I don’t, but in the interest of completeness, here you go. In fact, I think this vindicates Cain’s wisdom in declining to take a polygraph about the harassment charges (so far). However generally accurate a lie detector might be, no one believes they’re 100 percent accurate. If you sit down and stake your reputation on a good result, your candidacy’s at the mercy of the machine. Any Cain fans out there seriously want him to roll the dice on a polygraph in hopes of killing this story dead?

His best chance of killing this story, actually, are the small holes being punched in Bialek’s and Kraushaar’s credibility. The latest from CNN:

Herman Cain accuser Karen Kraushaar is “not considering a press conference” if only she and the other named accuser, Sharon Bialek, are willing to participate, according to a source close to Kraushaar.

“She still would like to have a press conference with all four women” who have accused Cain of sexual harassment, the source said, but it has not yet come together…

Bennett said Wednesday that it was likely that Kraushaar would do a newser if only Bialek committed, but that is now not the case, according to the source.

If it’s just her and Bialek up there, the Q&A will be all about Kraushaar’s other job complaint and Bialek’s financial history. If it’s four of them up there, the group’s total credibility is bolstered and the Q&A will focus on fleshing out the other women’s accusations against Cain. Like Kraushaar said the other day: Safety in numbers.

Cain’s raised more than $9 million since October 1, according to his campaign; if he keeps up that pace, he’ll have plenty of ammo to make a real run at Iowa. Or will he? Exit quotation from the AP:

Private polling shared with The Associated Press shows Cain’s support in Iowa has declined since last month. Internal polls of likely Republican caucus-goers showed Cain’s support consistent with The Des Moines Register’s poll in late October, which showed him narrowly leading in the state with 23 percent. The private polls showed Cain still in double digits in Iowa, but markedly lower.


CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/11/10/video-the-obligatory-voice-stress-analyst-says-cains-telling-the-truth-clip

Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MCWAY on November 11, 2011, 06:43:47 AM
Video: The obligatory “voice-stress analyst says Herman Cain’s telling the truth” clip
Hotair ^ | 11/11/2011 | Allahpundit

Posted on Friday, November 11, 2011 9:39:49 AM by SeekAndFind

Half a dozen people e-mailed us this clip because they think it tells us something significant. I don’t, but in the interest of completeness, here you go. In fact, I think this vindicates Cain’s wisdom in declining to take a polygraph about the harassment charges (so far). However generally accurate a lie detector might be, no one believes they’re 100 percent accurate. If you sit down and stake your reputation on a good result, your candidacy’s at the mercy of the machine. Any Cain fans out there seriously want him to roll the dice on a polygraph in hopes of killing this story dead?

His best chance of killing this story, actually, are the small holes being punched in Bialek’s and Kraushaar’s credibility. The latest from CNN:

Herman Cain accuser Karen Kraushaar is “not considering a press conference” if only she and the other named accuser, Sharon Bialek, are willing to participate, according to a source close to Kraushaar.

“She still would like to have a press conference with all four women” who have accused Cain of sexual harassment, the source said, but it has not yet come together…

Bennett said Wednesday that it was likely that Kraushaar would do a newser if only Bialek committed, but that is now not the case, according to the source.

If it’s just her and Bialek up there, the Q&A will be all about Kraushaar’s other job complaint and Bialek’s financial history. If it’s four of them up there, the group’s total credibility is bolstered and the Q&A will focus on fleshing out the other women’s accusations against Cain. Like Kraushaar said the other day: Safety in numbers.

Cain’s raised more than $9 million since October 1, according to his campaign; if he keeps up that pace, he’ll have plenty of ammo to make a real run at Iowa. Or will he? Exit quotation from the AP:

Private polling shared with The Associated Press shows Cain’s support in Iowa has declined since last month. Internal polls of likely Republican caucus-goers showed Cain’s support consistent with The Des Moines Register’s poll in late October, which showed him narrowly leading in the state with 23 percent. The private polls showed Cain still in double digits in Iowa, but markedly lower.


CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/11/10/video-the-obligatory-voice-stress-analyst-says-cains-telling-the-truth-clip



The male TV anchor let Ward analyze his speeches, as well. When he started blatantly lying, the machine caught him. Notice how our resident Cain critics have been awfully silent regarding these latest developments.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: 240 is Back on November 11, 2011, 07:30:44 AM
Who ultimately gets the vote remains to be seen. Officially, Cain has no skeletons in his closets, because so far NONE OF THESE ALLEGATIONS have been proven to be true.

Of course.  where they're smoke....

Well, lets just say, if you had to bet the bank on whether mitt or cain will lose the women vote or have another bombshell... who would it be?
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MCWAY on November 11, 2011, 07:45:02 AM
Of course.  where they're smoke....

Well, lets just say, if you had to bet the bank on whether mitt or cain will lose the women vote or have another bombshell... who would it be?

Dry ice creates smoke, too.

You don't get it, do you? Whoever the front runner is, some "scandal" is going to pop up.

When Bachmann was up, it was her "anti-gay" clinic.
When Perry was ahead, it was some rock with the word, "N*$&##" on it, that his dad deleted once he found it.
Now, with Cain up and running, these questionable (to say the least) claims of sexual harassment.
When Mitt was up early on, it was Mormon-bashing time.

All this crap is designed to do one thing: Destroy any GOP challenger to ensure that farce of a president, Barack Obama, remains in office.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: 240 is Back on November 11, 2011, 08:35:17 AM
Cain himself pointed at the Perry camp for leaking this.
As did many getbiggers.

Are you now saying you and Cain were WRONG about this?
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MindSpin on November 11, 2011, 08:41:47 AM

Cain is not my top choice , but what is being done to him is disgusting.    It's awful and typical of the communist left.

He did it to himself.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MindSpin on November 11, 2011, 08:47:34 AM
Dear Mindspin...its already been proven that liberals are 10x's more racist than repubs. Hope this helps.

Really?  I missed that memo ::)  Your party has aligned itself with the Christian right, which is trying to "get the Mexicans out", telling the "fags" that they can't marry each other and trying to tell women what to do with their bodies.  Heck, a big part of the "Bible belt" is still flying confederate flags and longing to bring back slavery.  Like I said, the party of hatred. 
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 11, 2011, 08:50:26 AM

Cain is not my top choice , but what is being done to him is disgusting.    It's awful and typical of the communist left.
Holy shit... I feel like such an asshole for not recognizing such a distinguished person...  It's an honor to have you posting on the board Rush.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 11, 2011, 08:52:11 AM
Holy shit... I feel like such an asshole for not recognizing such a distinguished person...  It's an honor to have you posting on the board Rush.



you dont find it strange that the MSM has covered Cain more in the last week or so than Fast n Furuious, solyndra, light squared, etc? 
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MindSpin on November 11, 2011, 11:55:45 AM
Oh, and I forgot to mention, the right wing wacko party wants to trash the earth for a few drops of oil :)
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: 240 is Back on November 11, 2011, 11:58:39 AM


you dont find it strange that the MSM has covered Cain more in the last week or so than Fast n Furuious, solyndra, light squared, etc? 

the MSM covered weiner that much as well.  and he just controlled a small piece of real estate in a single state.  Cain is the frontrunner on a party about to topple obama.

MSM loves sex.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 11, 2011, 12:36:52 PM
Dear Mindspin...its already been proven that liberals are 10x's more racist than repubs. Hope this helps.

Link to this proof?  And the delusions in your empty cranium are not proof.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 11, 2011, 12:52:17 PM
After silence from fellow Cain accusers, Kraushaar backs off
Herald-Mail ^ | November 10, 2011 | Melanie Mason




Joel Bennett said Thursday his client, Karen Kraushaar, spent several days reaching out to two women whose complaints about Cain’s past inappropriate behavior have been detailed—anonymously—in media accounts.

“Despite diligent efforts, she has not heard from these two women,” Bennett said in a statement.


(Excerpt) Read more at herald-mail.com ...

Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MindSpin on November 11, 2011, 03:01:42 PM
Link to this proof?  And the delusions in your empty cranium are not proof.
lol
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: reppingfor20 on November 11, 2011, 06:28:32 PM

Ayeres, wright, rezko, dohrn,     Go away twat. 

what are you typing, is your brain slowly evaporating? 
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 11, 2011, 06:32:34 PM
what are you typing, is your brain slowly evaporating? 


Don't you have a prayer rug to squat on?
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: reppingfor20 on November 11, 2011, 06:32:48 PM
I really hate how the media and the democrats jump all over a guy with zero proof.

I have no doubt that I would have 1 or 2 women jump up and scream harassment with zero proof and it would be all bullshit.

People crucify people in this country with ZERO proof of any wrong doing and I can't fucking stand it.


LOL you are out of touch with reality, he has 3 I believe settlements with woman from the Restaurant Association for sexual harassment claims.  You don't settle and give people money if you aren't guilty, you defend yourself.  Not sure what planet you are living on LOL.

Only reason the woman don't come out is because they signed a confidentiality agreement that would make them payback what they got from the settlement plus even more on top of that and a lawsuit.

Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Grape Ape on November 11, 2011, 06:36:07 PM
 You don't settle and give people money if you aren't guilty, you defend yourself.  Not sure what planet you are living on LOL.


Right on cue you again show how little practical knowledge you have about anything, you ignorant fuck.

Companies settle all the time, guilt being irrelevant.  It's all about cost mitigation.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MCWAY on November 11, 2011, 06:40:48 PM
LOL you are out of touch with reality, he has 3 I believe settlements with woman from the Restaurant Association for sexual harassment claims.  You don't settle and give people money if you aren't guilty, you defend yourself.  Not sure what planet you are living on LOL.

Only reason the woman don't come out is because they signed a confidentiality agreement that would make them payback what they got from the settlement plus even more on top of that and a lawsuit.



First, there are only two "settlements" or severance payments, depending on who you ask.

Second, Cain didn't give them anything. He wasn't even there when these women were released from NRA.

Third, even if these were harassment settlements, the average cost of defending a harassment suit (in the late 90s) was $250,000.

Fourth, with 67% of all cases in the late 90s going to the plaintiff (employee) and an average judgment payment of $300,000, why did these women collectively settle for a mere $80,000 (again, assuming these actually were sexual harassment settlements, and not severance packages)?

http://www.thaxtonbarclay.com/employment-liability-insurance.htm

My guess is that they knew that, if they went to court, they would LOSE and be up to their eyeballs in legal fees. Ask Sharon Bialek (Cain's latest accuser) what that's all about.

So, even though you've done an investigation and found your CEO not guilty of what he stands accused, you're actually going to blow a quarter of a million dollars to verify that (knowing the odds are in your favor to win in court, anyway), instead of giving this woman (Kraushaar) $46K to just walk?

Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MCWAY on November 11, 2011, 07:08:51 PM
After silence from fellow Cain accusers, Kraushaar backs off
Herald-Mail ^ | November 10, 2011 | Melanie Mason




Joel Bennett said Thursday his client, Karen Kraushaar, spent several days reaching out to two women whose complaints about Cain’s past inappropriate behavior have been detailed—anonymously—in media accounts.

“Despite diligent efforts, she has not heard from these two women,” Bennett said in a statement.


(Excerpt) Read more at herald-mail.com ...



If Cain is the "monster" that Kraushaar claims he is, why does she need the anonymous women's help to talk to the press about him? Why not go it alone or with Bialek?

Her lawyer's been saying that she wants to talk for nearly two weeks. First, the NRA was in the way (they waived the confidentiality thing); now, the excuse is the other anonymous accusers won't come forth.

We all know what she thinks is "sexual harassment" (that joke about computers being like men or women). And Bialek's being picked apart, as her checkered past (coupled with her being seen schmoozing with Cain last month) is coming to light.
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 11, 2011, 07:11:56 PM
If Cain is the "monster" that Kraushaar claims he is, why does she need the anonymous women's help to talk to the press about him? Why not go it alone or with Bialek?

Her lawyer's been saying that she wants to talk for nearly two weeks. First, the NRA was in the way (they waived the confidentiality thing); now, the excuse is the other anonymous accusers won't come forth.

We all know what she thinks is "sexual harassment" (that joke about computers being like men or women). And Bialek's being picked apart, as her checkered past (coupled with her being seen schmoozing with Cain last month) is coming to light.


Amazing how there are ZERO people from his tenure at Godfather pizza or Coke or the NAVY making complaints. 
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: MCWAY on November 11, 2011, 07:16:12 PM

Amazing how there are ZERO people from his tenure at Godfather pizza or Coke or the NAVY making complaints.  

I joked about this earlier, before I posted this link a few days ago.

But, given Bialek's reputation for screwing her bosses (her 13-year-old son is the result of her affair with the CEO of a company where she worked; after his wife divorced him, he sued Bialek for joint custody of their kid and won), maybe it wasn't Cain making the moves on her but the other way around.

After all, she was reportedly with Cain, trying to get her job back.

Local CBS radio voice, Bill Kurtis, suggested the same thing:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/veteran-anchor-bill-kurtis-says-bialek-was-former-cbs-employee-with-a-track-record-hers-and-cains-roles-may-even-have-been-reversed-in-car/
Title: Re: Cain Accuser Works in Obama Administration
Post by: tu_holmes on November 12, 2011, 11:31:24 AM
LOL you are out of touch with reality, he has 3 I believe settlements with woman from the Restaurant Association for sexual harassment claims.  You don't settle and give people money if you aren't guilty, you defend yourself.  Not sure what planet you are living on LOL.

Only reason the woman don't come out is because they signed a confidentiality agreement that would make them payback what they got from the settlement plus even more on top of that and a lawsuit.



So money is more important than self respect and dignity?

In my mind, you know something bad DIDN'T happen when you will take money for it.

You can't buy off someone who cares about themselves.