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The following is the contest prep cycle of a current IFBB pro. This was from a year ago.
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(diuretics not included)
12 weeks out
- 3,000mg testosterone cypionate per week
- 1,000mg deca durabolin per week
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 200mg TNE pre workout (5 days per week)
- 24iu serostim monday through friday
- 15iu humalog before every meal
- 25iu humalog pre workout
8 weeks out
- 3,000mg testosterone propionate per week
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 1,400mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,000mg primobolan enanthate per week
- 200mg TNE pre workout (5 days per week)
- 24iu serostim monday through friday
- 15iu humalog before breakfast
- 25iu humalog pre workout
- taper up to 120mcg hubei clenbuterol and 100mcg t3 alternated every 2 weeks with 50mg ephedrine/200mg caffeine every 4 hours
- 1mg ketotifen before bed while using EC
- 2.5mg femara every day
- 1mg arimadex every day
4 weeks out
- 2,800mg TNE per week (workout days: 100mg upon waking/200mg preworkout/100mg before bed, off days: 100mg every 4-6 hours)
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 1,400mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,500mg primobolan depot per week
- 200mg winstrol suspension per day
- 24iu serostim every day
- 3,000mg metformin every day (divide dose between carb meals)
- 120mcg hubei clenbuterol and 100mcg t3
- 2.5mg femara every day
- 1mg arimadex every day
2 weeks out
- 1,750mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,500mg primobolan depot per week
- 300mg winstrol suspension per week
- 150mg injectable anadrol per day
- 50mg injectable dianabol per day
- 3,000mg metformin every week (divided between carb meals)
- 120mcg hubei clenbuterol
- 100mcg t3
- 1mg ketotifen every day before bed
- 2.5mg femara
- 1mg arimadex
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wow....... youd need a skip for a needle bin!
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Thank you BFG for all these info you're putting in lately. :)
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it did not specify frequency, but i know that the ancillary usage is 2.5mg femara and 1mg arimadex dosed every day.
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So much money :'(
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So much money :'(
its been said before. most of the drugs are received for free or at a huge discount because almost all pros and amateur bodybuilders are either
1) "sponsored" by a UGL
2) a "rep" for a UGL various steroid boards
3) selling the AAS at an absurd markup in the local gym
4) remailing raw powders if they live on the east coast
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Interesting as always, BFG. Now give us a list of the " other drugs " this bb'er was takin' to function daily.
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well if you are using an underground gear it is probably realistic as most of its crap and isnt the same chemical as its supposed to be.
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the only thing id doubt on those lists is the GH, thats like a damn kit every 5 days and no one gets "sponsored" that much, and if its legit Serostim you aint getting it cheap, if its real i dont know how these guys afford all that shit.
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some of you guys crack me up with this "sponsored by a drug company" bullshit, one guy got busted a few years ago and claimed it in court and some internet geeks took it and ran with it, NO ONE gives away that much gear no matter who you are.
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well if you are using an underground gear it is probably realistic as most of its crap and isnt the same chemical as its supposed to be.
Not all UGL's are the underdosed garbage that you find from the overweight gym AAS dealer. Many pros and top national competitors use private, high quality UGL's. There is no such thing as human grade trenbolone and equipoise anyway so one of the most important contest prep drugs has to be from a UGL, anyhow.
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Why would anybody add arimidex to femara? Doesn't make sense at all. And femara for 8 weeks? That's hell on earth.
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You guys are all missing a much more obvious question...
How on earth can a person on so much gear even get out of bed and go to the gym, let alone actually train with some modicum of intensity?
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The following is the contest prep cycle of a current IFBB pro. This was from a year ago.
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(diuretics not included)
12 weeks out
- 3,000mg testosterone cypionate per week
- 1,000mg deca durabolin per week
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 200mg TNE pre workout (5 days per week)
- 24iu serostim monday through friday
- 15iu humalog before every meal
- 25iu humalog pre workout
8 weeks out
- 3,000mg testosterone propionate per week
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 1,400mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,000mg primobolan enanthate per week
- 200mg TNE pre workout (5 days per week)
- 24iu serostim monday through friday
- 15iu humalog before breakfast
- 25iu humalog pre workout
- taper up to 120mcg hubei clenbuterol and 100mcg t3 alternated every 2 weeks with 50mg ephedrine/200mg caffeine every 4 hours
- 1mg ketotifen before bed while using EC
- 2.5mg femara every day
- 1mg arimadex every day
4 weeks out
- 2,800mg TNE per week (workout days: 100mg upon waking/200mg preworkout/100mg before bed, off days: 100mg every 4-6 hours)
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 1,400mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,500mg primobolan depot per week
- 200mg winstrol suspension per day
- 24iu serostim every day
- 3,000mg metformin every day (divide dose between carb meals)
- 120mcg hubei clenbuterol and 100mcg t3
- 2.5mg femara every day
- 1mg arimadex every day
2 weeks out
- 1,750mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,500mg primobolan depot per week
- 300mg winstrol suspension per week
- 150mg injectable anadrol per day
- 50mg injectable dianabol per day
- 3,000mg metformin every week (divided between carb meals)
- 120mcg hubei clenbuterol
- 100mcg t3
- 1mg ketotifen every day before bed
- 2.5mg femara
- 1mg arimadex
Nothing wrong with this at the top level of any sports you have to go to the extreme if you want to be the best. the only difference is I do not see people in other sports posting the cycles on the internet so you must be looking for attention with this thread, by replying I just gave you some.
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some of you guys crack me up with this "sponsored by a drug company" bullshit, one guy got busted a few years ago and claimed it in court and some internet geeks took it and ran with it, NO ONE gives away that much gear no matter who you are.
It is actually a very good deal for a UGL to have a guy that looks good posting positive reviews about their products on big steroid forums and telling everyone in the gym that so and so's lab is the best. The average profit on 50 bottles of tren at $60/bottle is $1,750.
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You guys are all missing a much more obvious question...
How on earth can a person on so much gear even get out of bed and go to the gym, let alone actually train with some modicum of intensity?
its possible, if you really read that list its not really THAT MUCH, its a big amount yes but far less than some amounts i've heard of, like i said before the only part that freaks me out is the 24 iu of growth a day just because of the sheer price.
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It is actually a very good deal for a UGL to have a guy that looks good posting positive reviews about their products on big steroid forums and telling everyone in the gym that so and so's lab is the best. The average profit on 50 bottles of tren at $60/bottle is $1,750.
whats more realistic is that the UGL sets up a deal with the bb'er that he sells for them and he keeps a little profit for himself but no company in there right minds is giving away a kit of growth a week, a bottle of test 300 a week and all that other shit for absolutley nothing but some kind words on a message board, if you truly believe that you're dreaming.
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what a miserable existance one must live if they have to take all that shit.
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i'm sorry but it is hilarious seeing that my dad posts here
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i'm sorry but it is hilarious seeing that my dad posts here
lol, how are you son?
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whats more realistic is that the UGL sets up a deal with the bb'er that he sells for them and he keeps a little profit for himself but no company in there right minds is giving away a kit of growth a week, a bottle of test 300 a week and all that other shit for absolutley nothing but some kind words on a message board, if you truly believe that you're dreaming.
There is no "belief," I know how this stuff works as a fact. I am sorry that you find it unimaginable that a UGL would give a pro bodybuilder a lot of free gear, but thats how the world works. A lot of the time, if they live on the east coast, they end up remailing raw powders for more money and gear.
Very few people get gh for free. I stated earlier, they get gh at a discounted price as part of the deal. Chinese generic gh is nowhere near as expensive as the suppliers want you to think so it can be marked down a lot and still have room for profit. Most of these guys will receive a bulk shipment of pallets of chinese generics, sell them locally and then buy serostim with the profit.
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my dad doesn't talk to me in real life so I doubt he would ever talk to me on the internet
hi dad
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"Keg" Tropin is just albumin
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what a miserable existance one must live if they have to take all that shit.
the miserable part would be living with the thought over your head every day that if something happened to your supplier or yourself and you couldnt pay for it or the supplier got busted how fucking small and depressed youd be coming off, when youre on that much shit youre living on "borrowed" muscle so its hard to take compliments and feel good because you know how easily it could all be taken away.
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the miserable part would be living with the thought over your head every day that if something happened to your supplier or yourself and you couldnt pay for it or the supplier got busted how fucking small and depressed youd be coming off, when youre on that much shit youre living on "borrowed" muscle so its hard to take compliments and feel good because you know how easily it could all be taken away.
perfect summary!!
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There is no "belief," I know how this stuff works as a fact. I am sorry that you find it unimaginable that a UGL would give a pro bodybuilder a lot of free gear, but thats how the world works. A lot of the time, if they live on the east coast, they end up remailing raw powders for more money and gear.
Very few people get gh for free. I stated earlier, they get gh at a discounted price as part of the deal. Chinese generic gh is nowhere near as expensive as the suppliers want you to think so it can be marked down a lot and still have room for profit. Most of these guys will receive a bulk shipment of pallets of chinese generics, sell them locally and then buy serostim with the profit.
yes but that list said "Serostim" and as we all know there is a HUGE difference between that and these bullshit blue and yellow tops floating around.
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yes but that list said "Serostim" and as we all know there is a HUGE difference between that and these bullshit blue and yellow tops floating around.
I apologize for the confusion. I explained in the above post how serostim is usually afforded. Furthermore, I would not say all the chinese generics are "bullshit" - in fact there are some very potent brands circulating, the problem is that the supplier usually does not know if they are purchasing (as an example) the true 98 percent purity elitropin green tops or an imitation. There is very little quality control in that region and usually the supplier is just as confused as the end user.
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I apologize for the confusion. I explained in the above post how serostim is usually afforded. Furthermore, I would not say all the chinese generics are "bullshit" - in fact there are some very potent brands circulating, the problem is that the supplier usually does not know if they are purchasing (as an example) the true 98 percent purity elitropin green tops or an imitation. There is very little quality control in that region and usually the supplier is just as confused as the end user.
no problem man, oh i know that there are some very high quality generics out there but i'm a believer of GH15's theory that nothing touches the real thing, the Serostims, Humalogs, etc. and i've seen that stuff sell for as much as 500 bucks a kit believe it or not.
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BFG, sorry to hijack the thread - will you do a post on a typical gym rat cycle that can be used year long and the most cost effective ?
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Thank you Mr. BFG. So much better an more coherant than dipshit15.
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And that's must be the healthy part of the prep, wait till you see the narcotics list ;D
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Thank you Mr. BFG. So much better an more coherant than dipshit15.
Shut the fuck up already, you gorbellied clapper-clawed clotpole.
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letro at 2.5 mgs and arimadex at 1 mg every day. say goodbye to an erection, i dont care how much viagra you can take.
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I apologize for the confusion. I explained in the above post how serostim is usually afforded. Furthermore, I would not say all the chinese generics are "bullshit" - in fact there are some very potent brands circulating, the problem is that the supplier usually does not know if they are purchasing (as an example) the true 98 percent purity elitropin green tops or an imitation. There is very little quality control in that region and usually the supplier is just as confused as the end user.
Less then a 100 post and evryone here sees that you know your shit, thanks and stick around 8)
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There is no "belief," I know how this stuff works as a fact. I am sorry that you find it unimaginable that a UGL would give a pro bodybuilder a lot of free gear, but thats how the world works. A lot of the time, if they live on the east coast, they end up remailing raw powders for more money and gear.
Very few people get gh for free. I stated earlier, they get gh at a discounted price as part of the deal. Chinese generic gh is nowhere near as expensive as the suppliers want you to think so it can be marked down a lot and still have room for profit. Most of these guys will receive a bulk shipment of pallets of chinese generics, sell them locally and then buy serostim with the profit.
I remember when UG Cialis from China first came out. I got a bunch of it thinking that all the party boys would love it. At first everybody was like "I don't need that shit man". It was so cheap that I told my buddy that dealt with 99% of the people to just give it all away. He did. Then boom, I couldn't keep enough of it on hand. Hella profit and we weren't the ones making it, just middle men. It's a little different than what you are talking about, but having some guy that the gym rats idolize selling stuff you make is a gold mine. So, yeah, I can see it with as cheap as raws can be had if you know the right people.
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The following is the contest prep cycle of a current IFBB pro. This was from a year ago.
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(diuretics not included)
12 weeks out
- 3,000mg testosterone cypionate per week
- 1,000mg deca durabolin per week
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 200mg TNE pre workout (5 days per week)
- 24iu serostim monday through friday
- 15iu humalog before every meal
- 25iu humalog pre workout
8 weeks out
- 3,000mg testosterone propionate per week
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 1,400mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,000mg primobolan enanthate per week
- 200mg TNE pre workout (5 days per week)
- 24iu serostim monday through friday
- 15iu humalog before breakfast
- 25iu humalog pre workout
- taper up to 120mcg hubei clenbuterol and 100mcg t3 alternated every 2 weeks with 50mg ephedrine/200mg caffeine every 4 hours
- 1mg ketotifen before bed while using EC
- 2.5mg femara every day
- 1mg arimadex every day
4 weeks out
- 2,800mg TNE per week (workout days: 100mg upon waking/200mg preworkout/100mg before bed, off days: 100mg every 4-6 hours)
- 1,200mg equipoise per week
- 1,400mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,500mg primobolan depot per week
- 200mg winstrol suspension per day
- 24iu serostim every day
- 3,000mg metformin every day (divide dose between carb meals)
- 120mcg hubei clenbuterol and 100mcg t3
- 2.5mg femara every day
- 1mg arimadex every day
2 weeks out
- 1,750mg trenbolone acetate per week
- 1,050mg masteron dipropionate per week
- 1,500mg primobolan depot per week
- 300mg winstrol suspension per week
- 150mg injectable anadrol per day
- 50mg injectable dianabol per day
- 3,000mg metformin every week (divided between carb meals)
- 120mcg hubei clenbuterol
- 100mcg t3
- 1mg ketotifen every day before bed
- 2.5mg femara
- 1mg arimadex
there is a lot of truth in this postings,, doses are NOT accurate,, i repaet doses are NOT! accurate,, now this! is something that is NOT taken from pro level!,, make sure pupils that you read what im saying here,, this is over all products we use but this is NOT! pro level cycle ,,those doses are off especialy the testosterona doses which are all over the place ,,
again this fella does have a clue he is most likley amatuer competitor but this is NOT I REPEAT NOT! pro cycle,,we do not! do cycles we hav eone long usage of hormones through our career and past it
gh15 approved
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Please don't tell me the dosages are too low...
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Please don't tell me the dosages are too low...
no i will elaborate when i can have time to writre ,, his doses are off,, this is not pro cycle ,, it is amaturish national type of cycles of generation nothingess ,, the ones who place 8-16 th nationals
doses are not too low they are just not accurate,,products are right ther eis some truth to what he write but its just a mish mash ,, as in fit what you can into a cycle type of mishmash,,
i will explain later
gh15 approved
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there is a lot of truth in this postings,, doses are NOT accurate,, i repaet doses are NOT! accurate,, now this! is something that is NOT taken from pro level!,, make sure pupils that you read what im saying here,, this is over all products we use but this is NOT! pro level cycle ,,those doses are off especialy the testosterona doses which are all over the place ,,
again this fella does have a clue he is most likley amatuer competitor but this is NOT I REPEAT NOT! pro cycle,,we do not! do cycles we hav eone long usage of hormones through our career and past it
gh15 approved
Jealous, 7 grams and 24 Iu gh and still not pro level? man you are full of contradictions.
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no i will elaborate when i can have time to writre ,, his doses are off,, this is not pro cycle ,, it is amaturish national type of cycles of generation nothingess ,, the ones who place 8-16 th nationals
doses are not too low they are just not accurate,,products are right ther eis some truth to what he write but its just a mish mash ,, as in fit what you can into a cycle type of mishmash,,
i will explain later
gh15 approved
this is going to be interesting lol
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BFG, do you have contacts in washington?
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From what I've seen from Canadian competitors, that looks like something an amateur or Canadian pro would do. Even before gh15 posted, I too thought the doses were a little all over the place. But then again, all these mid-tier "gurus" throw seemingly random compounds all over the board and back their logic behind them to the death. I guess this makes them feel distinguished or something. Just seems unnecessary to me, but these guys don't usually have it all in the head anyway.
If I were sponsored by a lab and getting myself ready to prance in a glittery thong, I'd simplify the compounds and change some of the doses around. A lot of the reason why these guys are competing at the levels they are, is because their body's can tolerate that sort of abuse. For me, rigor mortis would set in and I'd be too lethargic and fucked up to train. Some guys can keep injecting and injecting forever and it doesn't phase them. It scares the shit out of me because I have a few friends like this. They take literally everything they can get their hands on and pin vials worth of juice every day.
I can't imagine draining a single vial of anything in a day. :-\
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The more I read the more I'm starting to realize that at the end of the day your genes to build muscle are not as important as having the genetics to withstand the drug intake required to be a pro. Bodybuilding really is the survival of the fittest and how long you can abuse yourself before getting sick. Jay Cutler is umbelievable in that regard, been "on" for the past 20 years still looks pretty healthy. Then you have guys like Trey Brewer who look like death at 22 years old lol
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no problem man, oh i know that there are some very high quality generics out there but i'm a believer of GH15's theory that nothing touches the real thing, the Serostims, Humalogs, etc. and i've seen that stuff sell for as much as 500 bucks a kit believe it or not.
What are u talking about. GH15 says there are some gh products than Sersostim and Humalogs. Don't u read his approved gh list and the new Kigs his elfs tested.
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The more I read the more I'm starting to realize that at the end of the day your genes to build muscle are not as important as having the genetics to withstand the drug intake required to be a pro. Bodybuilding really is the survival of the fittest and how long you can abuse yourself before getting sick. Jay Cutler is umbelievable in that regard, been "on" for the past 20 years still looks pretty healthy. Then you have guys like Trey Brewer who look like death at 22 years old lol
Bro, you're catching on unbelievably quick. You're lucky to know this so young because training with the PROPER KNOWLEDGE makes a world of difference. I'm happy for you (and jealous, you dick sucker). 8)
It's all about drug tolerance and intuition. You need to be able to take the shit, tolerate it, and acquire it all with extreme ease. If any of this is too difficult, it'll greatly hinder your ability to compete in the higher ranks. When you can respond well, tolerate grams of gear and be able to cover the cost easily then you're set. It also helps to be intuitive in the sense that you know your body and you know the scene. It doesn't take a rocket scientist, but some common sense along with the abovementioned will take someone far.
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Bro, you're catching on unbelievably quick. You're lucky to know this so young because training with the PROPER KNOWLEDGE makes a world of difference. I'm happy for you (and jealous, you dick sucker). 8)
It's all about drug tolerance and intuition. You need to be able to take the shit, tolerate it, and acquire it all with extreme ease. If any of this is too difficult, it'll greatly hinder your ability to compete in the higher ranks. When you can respond well, tolerate grams of gear and be able to cover the cost easily then you're set. It also helps to be intuitive in the sense that you know your body and you know the scene. It doesn't take a rocket scientist, but some common sense along with the abovementioned will take someone far.
good post,,,
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no i will elaborate when i can have time to writre ,, his doses are off,, this is not pro cycle ,, it is amaturish national type of cycles of generation nothingess ,, the ones who place 8-16 th nationals
doses are not too low they are just not accurate,,products are right ther eis some truth to what he write but its just a mish mash ,, as in fit what you can into a cycle type of mishmash,,
i will explain later
gh15 approved
yup numbers are way off...........
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Bro, you're catching on unbelievably quick. You're lucky to know this so young because training with the PROPER KNOWLEDGE makes a world of difference. I'm happy for you (and jealous, you dick sucker). 8)
It's all about drug tolerance and intuition. You need to be able to take the shit, tolerate it, and acquire it all with extreme ease. If any of this is too difficult, it'll greatly hinder your ability to compete in the higher ranks. When you can respond well, tolerate grams of gear and be able to cover the cost easily then you're set. It also helps to be intuitive in the sense that you know your body and you know the scene. It doesn't take a rocket scientist, but some common sense along with the abovementioned will take someone far.
do you think if your one of those guys who doesn't have the ability to survive the abuse of androgens year round and high doses of tren insulin, orals and equipoise, that you can make up for it with shitloads of gh year round? Could Jay Cutler really of been on 3-5 grams of testosterone, equipoise and tons of tren for the past two decades and be alive and competig right now? Dante says no way and that these guys are doing boatloads of gh and baby doses of testosterone (only) in the offseason to make up for it, but I know Disgusted disagrees and said the moment you lower the anabolics you will loose alot no matter how much gh your on. Haven't heard gh15's opinion on this yet. So What's the truth here?
Thing is I have never seen any pics of Jay (or most of the current pros) small and soft at any part of the year they are always jacked, hard,etc.
thanks for the words btw
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fellas ,, you have to let me be able to log on and take my time in answeiring,, i cant have milion pms everytime i log on to here,, this is bordering insanity,, i will answer eveyrthing but i also have to do something with my dog today we going to dog gathering of same type of dogs wth competition and relays and all that,, you have to give me some kind of space to answer questions in my own time,, i will whenever im in the thunderdome like i always does,, you know i never avoid anything
will answer everything just give me breathing time i cant have new 10 pms eveyrtime i log into thunderdome it is impsoible to respond to even if i want
gh15 approved
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why the fuck would you need almost 2 grams of masteron a week
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From what I've seen from Canadian competitors, that looks like something an amateur or Canadian pro would do. Even before gh15 posted, I too thought the doses were a little all over the place. But then again, all these mid-tier "gurus" throw seemingly random compounds all over the board and back their logic behind them to the death. I guess this makes them feel distinguished or something. Just seems unnecessary to me, but these guys don't usually have it all in the head anyway.
If I were sponsored by a lab and getting myself ready to prance in a glittery thong, I'd simplify the compounds and change some of the doses around. A lot of the reason why these guys are competing at the levels they are, is because their body's can tolerate that sort of abuse. For me, rigor mortis would set in and I'd be too lethargic and fucked up to train. Some guys can keep injecting and injecting forever and it doesn't phase them. It scares the shit out of me because I have a few friends like this. They take literally everything they can get their hands on and pin vials worth of juice every day.
I can't imagine draining a single vial of anything in a day. :-\
corect,,
with bodybuild it is very simple,,the more you use the bigger and leaner you will be,, but! but!! there are specific products that are all over the place when it come to amatuers that the more advance you become you realize that they need to be cycled! and reduced or increaswe depending on the mirror!
its not enough to just throw in bunch of product in high crazy doses,, it has to be a reason behind things,,
what you see in bfg posting has lots of truth to it this is why i dont bucher him and you know how buchery i can be ,, but no! he has knowledge he may very well be top amatuer ,, but! the game of doses and products change a little when you become profesional,,specifc things get increase and spefcific things get cycled
bfg knows bodybuilding,, he knows that you wont get someone coming over to you asking to personal train him to become a bodybuild,, what i mean is ...you wont have eric the 20 year old coming to you in gymnasium to train him for bodybuild and to get bigger and he wont pull 1000 dolaros out of pocket... unless you are on hgh and aas and look like a bodybuiler...because fellas just dont come to someone who doenst look impressive ask to be trained by them...so bfg approach over all is the more the better...which is true IN SOME cases with specific timings of your bodybuild endevour
so...bfg has knowledge it is just fitting the over all forth place in state competition or 12th place in national approach,,
i will talk more about why it is wrong later when i have time
gh15 approved
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The more I read the more I'm starting to realize that at the end of the day your genes to build muscle are not as important as having the genetics to withstand the drug intake required to be a pro. Bodybuilding really is the survival of the fittest and how long you can abuse yourself before getting sick. Jay Cutler is umbelievable in that regard, been "on" for the past 20 years still looks pretty healthy. Then you have guys like Trey Brewer who look like death at 22 years old lol
bodybuilding is one and only one thing,,
this thing is
HOW MUCH HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE CAN YOU GET AND HOW MUCH OF IT IS LEGIT HUMAN GROWTH HORMONES,, this is what bodybuilding is....the rest is not as important
again we talk bodybuild 2000,, it is diff than bodybuild 1950 1960,, it is very diff,, today you can build a bodybuild out of nothing,, you can really make chiwawa into very impressive pitball ,, back in the day it was not possibloe unless you were very young and had naturaly high hgh in blood ,,
the reson fellas lik wes can do bodybuild now day is ONLY HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE,, a fella like wes would be a walking twink pure twink! now day with no muscle basically faling apart with no syntetic hgh ,,
and this! is the truth
gh15 approved
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What are u talking about. GH15 says there are some gh products than Sersostim and Humalogs. Don't u read his approved gh list and the new Kigs his elfs tested.
garentee you here ,, GARENTEE ! that any one of you that does kigtropin ....will imedialty within weeks get fellas in gymnasium coming to him asking to be trained by the fella on kigtropin and any legit gh ,,
bodybuilders are filt i told you they lie! especialy the old generation the ones who didnt have gh15...they LIE! their all life is based upon where to get money for more and more gh
NO GH = NO BODYBUILDER,, get it in you rhead,, a bodybuild with no hgh = nothing to look at NOTHING TO LOOK AT
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do you think if your one of those guys who doesn't have the ability to survive the abuse of androgens year round and high doses of tren insulin, orals and equipoise, that you can make up for it with shitloads of gh year round? Could Jay Cutler really of been on 3-5 grams of testosterone, equipoise and tons of tren for the past two decades and be alive and competig right now? Dante says no way and that these guys are doing boatloads of gh and baby doses of testosterone (only) in the offseason to make up for it, but I know Disgusted disagrees and said the moment you lower the anabolics you will loose alot no matter how much gh your on. Haven't heard gh15's opinion on this yet. So What's the truth here?
Thing is I have never seen any pics of Jay (or most of the current pros) small and soft at any part of the year they are always jacked, hard,etc.
thanks for the words btw
Well first off, Danta is one of the biggest liars ever. He has specific goals such as convincing fellas that tons of protein is a key requirement, as well as paying him for advices. He is a knowledgeable fella, but he's a liar flat out. He can't be trusted.
He talks about weird PCT and intra-cycle hormone replacement protocols to try shifting peoples' focus and convincing them otherwise, but don't be fooled. He is a fucking LIAR. He tries saying he's special and honest because he doesn't push heavy doses of gear, but then you have trainees that pay him for advices and the first thing he does is gets them on huge cycles. What a guy!
lol, now that I've touched base on that, I think GH would help immensely. But if someone has a poor response to gear then they'll just look like a leaner, more three dimensional piece of shit. They'll just be polishing their turd physique. Some guys should just be happy being big and lean, then try to bring their shitty physique together as best they can.
For someone who responds poorly to AAS, I'd advise them to get on something logical and tolerable like a low dosed test, tren and mast cycle with maybe EQ and a pre workout oral (if it doesn't cause GI distress). I'd cycle test esters and suggest low dosed insulin, a solid diet and as much GH as they can afford. Whatever they can tolerate. Constant GH use will put them ahead of the curve as well, so not all is lost.
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do you think if your one of those guys who doesn't have the ability to survive the abuse of androgens year round and high doses of tren insulin, orals and equipoise, that you can make up for it with shitloads of gh year round? Could Jay Cutler really of been on 3-5 grams of testosterone, equipoise and tons of tren for the past two decades and be alive and competig right now? Dante says no way and that these guys are doing boatloads of gh and baby doses of testosterone (only) in the offseason to make up for it, but I know Disgusted disagrees and said the moment you lower the anabolics you will loose alot no matter how much gh your on. Haven't heard gh15's opinion on this yet. So What's the truth here?
Thing is I have never seen any pics of Jay (or most of the current pros) small and soft at any part of the year they are always jacked, hard,etc.
thanks for the words btw
thats because from young age he knew the key to stay big lean and 3 dimentional = human growth hormone,,,he even tell you that,, hgh insulina hgh insulina hgh insulina testosterona trenbolona msterona equipona ,, and all go on and on for ever and ever NEVER OFF NEVER FUCKIN OFF you take product out? you put in somethign else
moment you go off gh you become shadow! of your former self....trenbolona is also a curse because with out it you just cant keep the lean tissue to look so good as in surface will be there if on hgh but it wont be just quite as developed and as seperated! ! !
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i never in my life seen bodybuilder who has done pct ,, EVER! that should tell you soething,, never in my life! did i see bodybuild who competed with me who done pct,, there is no need for no pct its balonie its made up balonie ,, we never fuckin get off WE ARE ADDICTS!
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garentee you here ,, GARENTEE ! that any one of you that does kigtropin ....will imedialty within weeks get fellas in gymnasium coming to him asking to be trained by the fella on kigtropin and any legit gh ,,
bodybuilders are filt i told you they lie! especialy the old generation the ones who didnt have gh15...they LIE! their all life is based upon where to get money for more and more gh
NO GH = NO BODYBUILDER,, get it in you rhead,, a bodybuild with no hgh = nothing to look at NOTHING TO LOOK AT
gh15 approved
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Well first off, Danta is one of the biggest liars ever. He has specific goals such as convincing fellas that tons of protein is a key requirement, as well as paying him for advices. He is a knowledgeable fella, but he's a liar flat out. He can't be trusted.
He talks about weird PCT and intra-cycle hormone replacement protocols to try shifting peoples' focus and convincing them otherwise, but don't be fooled. He is a fucking LIAR. He tries saying he's special and honest because he doesn't push heavy doses of gear, but then you have trainees that pay him for advices and the first thing he does is gets them on huge cycles. What a guy!
lol, now that I've touched base on that, I think GH would help immensely. But if someone has a poor response to gear then they'll just look like a leaner, more three dimensional piece of shit. They'll just be polishing their turd physique. Some guys should just be happy being big and lean, then try to bring their shitty physique together as best they can.
For someone who responds poorly to AAS, I'd advise them to get on something logical and tolerable like a low dosed test, tren and mast cycle with maybe EQ and a pre workout oral (if it doesn't cause GI distress). I'd cycle test esters and suggest low dosed insulin, a solid diet and as much GH as they can afford. Whatever they can tolerate. Constant GH use will put them ahead of the curve as well, so not all is lost.
Everyone has an agenda. Dante is a bullshitter. But so is your hero.
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notice how no profesional and no industry felal come to tell gh15 it is wrong,, the reason is BECAUSE I AM ONE OF THEM ,, THEY KNOW WHAT I SAY IS 100% ACCURATE,, this is why so much frastration among alex33 gimicks and the few canadians who want drama ,, reality of the matter you will nevr find any serious bodybuild who argue me because they know...
legit hgh = bodybuilding,,
you can never look 3 dimentional with out hgh ...you may look ripped but never 3 dimentional and never volumized NEVER EVER WITH OUT GH
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Everyone has an agenda. Dante is a bullshitter. But so is your hero.
im your hero too,, im god fo everyone ,, im god of hormones,, as i said before rebeling is good and dandy but in the end of the day im your god too and im your teacher too,, wether you like it not liking it ,, the fact is the fact... im god of hormones for many years ,, you are a newbe in the thunderodme or gimcik still you are my pupil lik everyone else who reads me relegiously
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and!! the changes with hgh are DAILY AND WEEKLY ! not monthly !,, thats how important it is for bodybuild
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One must really feel like absolute shit being on all that stuff at once. 1400mg of tren per week is bad enough, but adding all that other shit in addition. I could imagine severe aching, soreness, pain, barely being able to walk or breathe, etc. I guess the truly gifted genetically don't have to worry about all those things. My wrists are in immense pain on just 5iu of hgh every day
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im your hero too,, im god fo everyone ,, im god of hormones,, as i said before rebeling is good and dandy but in the end of the day im your god too and im your teacher too,, wether you like it not liking it ,, the fact is the fact... im god of hormones for many years ,, you are a newbe in the thunderodme or gimcik still you are my pupil lik everyone else who reads me relegiously
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Like I said, I don't use drugs. You sound like a damn salesman in the post I quoted. GH is not a must to look like a bodybuilder. Are you saying that Arnold wasn't a bodybuilder? And the other 70s guys? (Yes they had very limited access to cadaver gh but I doubt even those who experimented got much out of it).
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And how is the Victor case going ?
Why don't you send your 'brother' the Mossad agent to break him out from jail? ;D
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Everyone has an agenda. Dante is a bullshitter. But so is your hero.
Danta is a scammer. gh15 is a messiah.
There is a big difference.
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Danta is a scammer. gh15 is a messiah.
There is a big difference.
Yeah...I'm not as sure of that. Both have an agenda. But they have different strategies. Besides gh15 is clearly delusional.
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Yeah...I'm not as sure of that. Both have an agenda. But they have different strategies. Besides gh15 is clearly delusional.
gh15's agenda is to help others achieve their goals you moron.
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gh15's agenda is to help others achieve their goals you moron.
His agenda is to feed his own ego and to propagate the use of illegal drugs you moron.
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Yeah...I'm not as sure of that. Both have an agenda. But they have different strategies. Besides gh15 is clearly delusional.
Over the years gh15 has managed to convince a LOT of fellas because of his primo advices. I'm one who's followed those advices with nothing but success. Before, I was listening to liars like Danta and Nortrom, wasting thousands on supplements that did nothing.
Following gh15's advices, I've never looked better and haven't had to spend nearly as much money on any sorts of "supplements". I buy basic gear, train hard, eat decent enough to get where I want to be and couldn't be happier. I know big time players in the game and even they take gh15 extremely seriously. And when the biggest sources in the world are struck with fear over "gh15", you've got to respect that.
I'm open to anything though. If gh15's next thread was an exposé about him being a 15 year old basement dweller, I would give him even more respect for playing everyone all these years. No matter who is behind the gh15 account, there's no denying that he's a big time bodybuilder who's been immersed in the scene for at least a couple solid decades. Anyone who's in any half-decent circle of gym rats will be able to pick this up. gh15 is having fun doing what he's doing and you can't hate him. If you do, you must have some serious anger issues. He's the sole reason why half the visitors frequent Getbig!
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Over the years gh15 has managed to convince a LOT of fellas because of his primo advices. I'm one who's followed those advices with nothing but success. Before, I was listening to liars like Danta and Nortrom, wasting thousands on supplements that did nothing.
Following gh15's advices, I've never looked better and haven't had to spend nearly as much money on any sorts of "supplements". I buy basic gear, train hard, eat decent enough to get where I want to be and couldn't be happier. I know big time players in the game and even they take gh15 extremely seriously. And when the biggest sources in the world are struck with fear over "gh15", you've got to respect that.
I'm open to anything though. If gh15's next thread was an exposé about him being a 15 year old basement dweller, I would give him even more respect for playing everyone all these years. No matter who is behind the gh15 account, there's no denying that he's a big time bodybuilder who's been immersed in the scene for at least a couple solid decades. Anyone who's in any half-decent circle of gym rats will be able to pick this up. gh15 is having fun doing what he's doing and you can't hate him. If you do, you must have some serious anger issues. He's the sole reason why half the visitors frequent Getbig!
Yeah drugs work. Amazing!!! And they work even better if you up the dosage!! Revolutionary stuff!!
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His agenda is to feed his own ego and to propagate the use of illegal drugs you moron.
you;re a moron, NO youre a moron, your a moron first. no you. wait
STFU BITCH why are u on getbig homo, everyone that follows his advice LOOKS INCREDIBLE....Plus the guy fuckin names TOP PRIVATE CHEFS AND SOURCES AND APPROVES THOSE WITH LEGIT PRODUCTS AND GOOD REPS. get the rope
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you;re a moron, NO youre a moron, your a moron first. no you. wait
STFU BITCH why are u on getbig homo, everyone that follows his advice LOOKS INCREDIBLE....Plus the guy fuckin names TOP PRIVATE CHEFS AND SOURCES AND APPROVES THOSE WITH LEGIT PRODUCTS AND GOOD REPS. get the rope
meltdown. run along and inject.
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Yeah drugs work. Amazing!!! And they work even better if you up the dosage!! Revolutionary stuff!!
I explained this earlier. As ironic as your rhetoric sounds, you're actually bang on! It's ironically revolutionary in the realm of bodybuilding.
So many dudes are going around gyms aimlessly, not sure what to pin or what weights to lift. They're absolutely clueless. Then you have "gurus" like Danta filling their heads with lies. Liars like Nortrom have PhD's in protein synthesis and write essays to shill their supplements. The poor saps don't stand a chance with demons like this lurking around the message boards and filling magazines with ghost written articles.
And that's why I say gh15 is a messiah. He delivers us from these frustrations and abominations. He gives us the precise advices that we need. Many people need him. And many people owe him a lot of thanks for being there to offer guidance.
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meltdown. run along and inject.
meltdown? oh god another natural pussy...inject what? my jizz in your mother's hole?
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meltdown? oh god another natural pussy...inject what? my jizz in your mother's hole?
Don't you read the bible? :D
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Please ignore Galv. I have, anyways. He / She simply DOES NOT get it. Plain and simple. And it's quite clear what Galv.'s agenda is. So, again, please ignore, fellas. You're just wastin' your time. :/
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I explained this earlier. As ironic as your rhetoric sounds, you're actually bang on! It's ironically revolutionary in the realm of bodybuilding.
So many dudes are going around gyms aimlessly, not sure what to pin or what weights to lift. They're absolutely clueless. Then you have "gurus" like Danta filling their heads with lies. Liars like Nortrom have PhD's in protein synthesis and write essays to shill their supplements. The poor saps don't stand a chance with demons like this lurking around the message boards and filling magazines with ghost written articles.
And that's why I say gh15 is a messiah. He delivers us from these frustrations and abominations. He gives us the precise advices that we need. Many people need him. And many people owe him a lot of thanks for being there to offer guidance.
Please, you don't have to tell me about all the dudes who piss away a lot of money on useless and/or overpriced supplements and read Flex magazine , all the fake gurus, liars, scammers etc. I know.
As for gh15, I see no reason to repeat what I wrote here and in the vic martinez threads. Even you can't take this overlord persona seriously, I can understand if mindless morons such as g101 believe every word from their 'god' but come on...
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Please ignore Galv. I have, anyways. He / She simply DOES NOT get it. Plain and simple. And it's quite clear what Galv.'s agenda is. So, again, please ignore, fellas. You're just wastin' your time. :/
I do get it, better than most on here. Like I said, you are like a bunch of crack whores looking for a fix (excuse the language). Everything else becomes irrelevant.
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lol@ you clowns who try to argue with GH15, the man comes on here and tells the TRUTH about bodybuilding at the highest levels, you'd honestly have to pay for the info he comes here and gives for free.
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lol@ you clowns who try to argue with GH15, the man comes on here and tells the TRUTH about bodybuilding at the highest levels, you'd honestly have to pay for the info he comes here and gives for free.
Inject as much drugs as you can afford and get your hands on, that is the info.
And you pay with your health and put money in his pocket. Sounds free to me!
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stfu bfg
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stfu bfg
Small boys aren't allowed on here. So you should be quiet unless you want to fornicate.
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Inject as much drugs as you can afford and get your hands on, that is the info.
And you pay with your health and put money in his pocket. Sounds free to me!
and the reward for the drug use is a huge ripped body that very few can claim and everything that goes along with it, this is a bodybuilding board after all and muscle is what everyone here is after no matter what bullshit they say to the contrary.
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Thank you Mr. BFG. So much better an more coherant than dipshit15.
even as ridiculous as gh15's posts are, his posts contain more truth and knowledge than whatever garbage bfg spews, which speaks more about bfg's stupid gimmick than gh15's
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Small boys aren't allowed on here. So you should be quiet unless you want to fornicate.
be quiet. you are a joke on this forum and no one respects you
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be quiet. you are a joke on this forum and no one respects you
I have self respect that is enough for me. And I told you to be quiet you little fag. :D
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ignorance is bliss i suppose
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I have self respect that is enough for me. And I told you to be quiet you little fag. :D
Self respect is for people who've just stepped out of the closet.
Load a barrel to the 3ml mark, pin and repeat. That's the Getbig way. 8)
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Self respect is for people who've just stepped out of the closet.
Load a barrel to the 3ml mark, pin and repeat. That's the Getbig way. 8)
No thanks. I have never been a religious person. I believe in myself, the Constitution and my guns. :D
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Inject as much drugs as you can afford and get your hands on, that is the info.
And you pay with your health and put money in his pocket. Sounds free to me!
sounds like a good plan to me, my life sucks anyways might as well die invinsible.
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No thanks. I have never been a religious person. I believe in myself, the Constitution and my guns. :D
you left out your Confederate Flag and Hank Williams, jr. CD's, lol.
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you left out your Confederate Flag and Hank Williams, jr. CD's, lol.
I'm not american(a), that is my excuse. But I hope to be fat one day tho.
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No thanks. I have never been a religious person. I believe in myself, the Constitution and my guns. :D
Bahhh. Saying no to drugs is like saying no to life. We only live once, brotha!
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sounds like a good plan to me, my life sucks anyways might as well die invinsible.
and it's all free!! (the truth/bible will set you free too)
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Like I said, I don't use drugs. You sound like a damn salesman in the post I quoted. GH is not a must to look like a bodybuilder. Are you saying that Arnold wasn't a bodybuilder? And the other 70s guys? (Yes they had very limited access to cadaver gh but I doubt even those who experimented got much out of it).
you use drugs,, you are a true liar,, you truly sit on internet all day long,, and the worst of them all! you actualy do not belive whe you are told the truth,, but....as i said you are gimick,,cant respect a fella that come on gimick,, bring your real account and the i wil take you serious,, i dotn care for real name since you are othing in the cult but! bring real account and stya on one account ,, until then what you say fly from one ear and go out from the other,, even when you come on old account or on your more useed account...even then! you lack trhe ability to distingwish between lies and truth,, joking and not joking,, whenever i joke i say so ,, if there is no mention of joking from me it means WHAT I SAY IS COMPLETRE 100% TRUTH
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and the most important thing ,, and it to corect this infantil gablator balonie,, HGH IS EVERYTHING EVRY THING! in bodybuilding,, i said before and i will say it again with out hgh you better be early 20s to do anything in bodybuild,, this is wht early 70s fella got anywhere if they were not on cadavrs already experiementing with it ,,
hgh is everything,, and this is where galbertor show his true colors in bodybuilding which = color blind
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you use drugs,, you are a true liar,, you truly sit on internet all day long,, and the worst of them all! you actualy do not belive whe you are told the truth,, but....as i said you are gimick,,cant respect a fella that come on gimick,, bring your real account and the i wil take you serious,, i dotn care for real name since you are othing in the cult but! bring real account and stya on one account ,, until then what you say fly from one ear and go out from the other,, even when you come on old account or on your more useed account...even then! you lack trhe ability to distingwish between lies and truth,, joking and not joking,, whenever i joke i say so ,, if there is no mention of joking from me it means WHAT I SAY IS COMPLETRE 100% TRUTH
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I never used drugs, bodybuilding drugs or recreational drugs (if you want to seperate the two). That hasn't changed since the last time i told you. You are a paranoid drug addict.
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His agenda is to feed his own ego and to propagate the use of illegal drugs you moron.
gablartor is losing his mind,, lol he doesnt know what gh15 is and how strong it is ,,this rebeling will be an example of gh15 to show how powerful i am ,, carry on lol
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and the most important thing ,, and it to corect this infantil gablator balonie,, HGH IS EVERYTHING EVRY THING! in bodybuilding,, i said before and i will say it again with out hgh you better be early 20s to do anything in bodybuild,, this is wht early 70s fella got anywhere if they were not on cadavrs already experiementing with it ,,
hgh is everything,, and this is where galbertor show his true colors in bodybuilding which = color blind
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No, GH may be everything in todays competitive bodybuilding with all the umpa lumpas but there is much more to bodybuilding than high level competitive bodybuilding (which isn't a sport, it's an state of illness).
You are a hormone salesman. You do not define what bodybuilding is. It's a personal journey!
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No, GH may be everything in todays competitive bodybuilding with all the umpa lumpas but there is much more to bodybuilding than high level competitive bodybuilding (which isn't a sport, it's an state of illness).
You are a hormone salesman. You do not define what bodybuilding is. It's a personal journey!
You can define bodybuilding in 2 ways, bodybuilding as a personal journey and bodybuilding as competative sport
for the personal journey its a personal choice to use steroids and GH or be natural, for competative bodybuilding GH is 100% needed if you want to have any type of success and look like a bodybuilder and turn heads and wet the vaginas
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there are 3 kinds of guys who criticize hormone use the most in my experience, #1)the guy who is too afraid to make the jump, #2)the guy who is too poor to afford it and 3)the guy who LIES about his use to make himself look better when everyone knows they're full of shit.
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You can define bodybuilding in 2 ways, bodybuilding as a personal journey and bodybuilding as competative sport
for the personal journey its a personal choice to use steroids and GH or be natural, for competative bodybuilding GH is 100% needed if you want to have any type of success and look like a bodybuilder and turn heads and wet the vaginas
I'm well aware that GH is needed for high level competition. As I stated in my previous post.
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there are 3 kinds of guys who criticize hormone use the most in my experience, #1)the guy who is too afraid to make the jump, #2)the guy who is too poor to afford it and 3)the guy who LIES about his use to make himself look better when everyone knows they're full of shit.
I belong to the first category. :D
But neither do I need it, I enjoy lifting for lifting.
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I belong to the first category.
But neither do I need it, I enjoy lifting for lifting.
what are you afraid of? honest question.
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what are you afraid of? honest question.
Like I said it's not just that. But to answer your question; side effects, legal aspects. For me the potential positives are not bigger than the potential negatives.
I'm happy being a 'natural sized' guy (obviously defined after the natural limits written in the bible).
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Like I said it's not just that. But to answer your question; side effects, legal aspects. For me the potential positives are not bigger than the potential negatives.
I'm happy being a 'natural sized' guy (obviously defined after the natural limits written in the bible).
the 2 things you listed are the two biggest falacies about hormone use IMO, most guys arent going to be able to afford enough to where they see negative sides and no one is busting down doors on guys with 3 bottles of test and a ziploc bac of 100 d bols, like GH always says its when the guys get into the rec drug use and sales is when the trouble comes, seen it MANY times myself.
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Yeah drugs work. Amazing!!! And they work even better if you up the dosage!! Revolutionary stuff!!
do you knwo how many rebeling trys i survived pupil? i survived so many rebel trys along the years,, from benz,, to fellas who said they woludl come after my family,, to alex33 million gimick ,, fellas just wquit they left the thunderdome because they couldnt get to me,, i had so many rebeling attemps during the years,, you dotn get how strong i am pupil,, i dont even know wht i answer you its one of those thigns where i was nto getting enough stimulation and you got me what i needed
you have much to learn friend,,listen to what they say about me,, LISTEN ,, they are all bodybuiulders some of them are very serious bodybuilders some of them are fitness models some of them are PROFESIONALS not under their names,, im the real deal be sure of that
oyu have much to learn as i said pupil ,,dont get angry either,, i dont try to get you angry it is just the way i write ,, im very cold harsh and pretty much write as it come,, but! if i dont say i joke somewhere alogn the way then be sure IT IS 100% THE TRUTH,,i make sure i say when i joke even if sometime after
again,, enjoy getbig enjoy the thunderdome but dont take it so personal,, dont get crazy ,, and dotn come off as stalker because as of now they all think of you as stalker,, remember! im the most followed individual in history of bodybuild my postings are read the moment they go out by 100s first few minutes,,, i can write a posting right now in 2 min about me taking a dump and having green color to it with little worms and it will become a 1000 readers within coupel hours
remember they read also what the fella who stalk gh15 write...in this case you! and you come off as stalker,, relax,, know your place ,, you are a pupil ,, rebel yes but still pupil
enjoy thunderdome but take it easy on yourself you will simply quit if you dont relax because i am known to drive fellas into insanity
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the 2 things you listed are the two biggest falacies about hormone use IMO, most guys arent going to be able to afford enough to where they see negative sides and no one is busting down doors on guys with 3 bottles of test and a ziploc bac of 100 d bols, like GH always says its when the guys get into the rec drug use and sales is when the trouble comes, seen it MANY times myself.
Maybe but it also depends on where you live and like I said I don't need the drugs. My ego can handle being natural.
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Like I said it's not just that. But to answer your question; side effects, legal aspects. For me the potential positives are not bigger than the potential negatives.
I'm happy being a 'natural sized' guy (obviously defined after the natural limits written in the bible).
Don't sweat the health implications. They are extremely low and when they sound bad, the source is normally taking things out of context because of the stigma surrounding steroids. Unless you have a genetic pre-disposition, you'll be fine. I got blood test all the time because I was paranoid and it was always fine. Orals raise my cholesterol, liver values and kidneys take a small beating but no problems at all with injectables.
People have juiced for decades and encountered hypogonadism, only to take nolvadex, clomid and HCG under the supervision of endocrinologists and managed to wake leydig cells and get LH and FSH going naturally. All your body needs is a bit of momentum and it'll get going even if it's been brought to a COMPLETE STOP for DECADES. There's medical literature out there to support this, so if that doesn't quell your concerns then you might as well stay inside and hide from the world lol :)
I don't mean to shill either way when it comes to being serious. Getting dead serious here, the health implications are extremely low to nil. As far as legality is concerned, it's usually a schedule III or schedule IV drug in most countries (or their country's equivalent) meaning it's okay to possess but not to sell or purchase illicitly. Basically, it's no biggy if you're not selling it or have a huge stash.
I know cops, nurses, doctors and even a couple lawyers that juice. And I just live in Canada. I'm sure there are more Americano abusers in the United States too. If you want to take the plunge, just get blood work and use human grade products from a trusted source. You're honestly missing out. Bodybuilding naturally is like sex with condoms - Once you bang bareback, you can't fathom a world where you have to wrap your junk again! It's just completely out of the question.
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do you knwo how many rebeling trys i survived pupil? i survived so many rebel trys along the years,, from benz,, to fellas who said they woludl come after my family,, to alex33 million gimick ,, fellas just wquit they left the thunderdome because they couldnt get to me,, i had so many rebeling attemps during the years,, you dotn get how strong i am pupil,, i dont even know wht i answer you its one of those thigns where i was nto getting enough stimulation and you got me what i needed
you have much to learn friend,,listen to what they say about me,, LISTEN ,, they are all bodybuiulders some of them are very serious bodybuilders some of them are fitness models some of them are PROFESIONALS not under their names,, im the real deal be sure of that
oyu have much to learn as i said pupil ,,dont get angry either,, i dont try to get you angry it is just the way i write ,, im very cold harsh and pretty much write as it come,, but! if i dont say i joke somewhere alogn the way then be sure IT IS 100% THE TRUTH,,i make sure i say when i joke even if sometime after
again,, enjoy getbig enjoy the thunderdome but dont take it so personal,, dont get crazy ,, and dotn come off as stalker because as of now they all think of you as stalker,, remember! im the most followed individual in history of bodybuild my postings are read the moment they go out by 100s first few minutes,,, i can write a posting right now in 2 min about me taking a dump and having green color to it with little worms and it will become a 1000 readers within coupel hours
remember they read also what the fella who stalk gh15 write...in this case you! and you come off as stalker,, relax,, know your place ,, you are a pupil ,, rebel yes but still pupil
enjoy thunderdome but take it easy on yourself you will simply quit if you dont relax because i am known to drive fellas into insanity
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You're not driving me insane and I enjoy getbig or I wouldn't be here. You need to stop with the reverse psychology stuff, it doesn't work on me. Neither does the papa style posting.
And I don't care if i can get to you or not. I wasn't trying to drive you off getbig, it was never my intention nor could I ever do it. You are mentally ill and you have created this character. You aren't going anywhere.
This is my last post in this thread. Enjoy the sushi.
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You're not driving me insane and I enjoy getbig or I wouldn't be here. You need to stop with the reverse psychology stuff, it doesn't work on me. Neither does the papa style posting.
And I don't care if i can get to you or not. I wasn't trying to drive you off getbig, it was never my intention nor could I ever do it. You are mentally ill and you have created this character. You aren't going anywhere.
This is my last post in this thread. Enjoy the sushi.
a mentaly ill fella would never have my career or sucess in real life,, you are a kid,, even 20-30 year old fellas can be kids they are kids...you hear a very knowledgabel group of fellas from dustin to van b and inbetween from disgusted to bboy ,, from palumbo that we hate eahcothe rHATE EACHOTHER and he is supporting evry word i say he know im the real deal and say so ..... so ross who never put gh15 down eventhough doesnt accpet everything gh15 says,, to many many others,, all tell you that what i say is the truth,, it has nothnig to do with my conection in dc and i have connection in dc ,, its not mentaly ill conection it is real connection lol,, the sad thign is that you think everybodybuild is a loser...no not every bodybuild is a loser many examples of sucesful ones,, i have friends in higher places,, they know me well ,, soem of them owe me a lot ,, a lot! the end
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Why do so many people have an issue with gh15??? Seriously, if you don't want to believe him or like what he says than just skip his posts and move on. Look at the best physiques on this board... many of them have claimed to read and follow gh15. That should say enough to everyone and again, if you still don't like it, just ignore. I hate how so many threads turn into an argument about gh15's info or identity. These arguments just delay the release of more solid info about how to become a high level pro. People pay thousands of dollars to "guru's" for info like this and he's giving it for free... why would people want to change that? Just ignore it if you don't like it.
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there are 3 kinds of guys who criticize hormone use the most in my experience, #1)the guy who is too afraid to make the jump, #2)the guy who is too poor to afford it and 3)the guy who LIES about his use to make himself look better when everyone knows they're full of shit.
4) They guy who just loves to train and push himself.
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Inject as much drugs as you can afford and get your hands on, that is the info.
And you pay with your health and put money in his pocket. Sounds free to me!
This ^^ piece of shit shoul be banned. srsly. A pure IGNORANCE.
It's like saying - This fella doesn't say anything new, just "Eat clean and healthy foods and you won't be obese" (while there are WAYS to arrange all that "clean food", ways to count calories, to calculate a personal BMR, etc, etc..) That's what gh15 does you fukkin moron (injecting everything you can get your hands on, oh rly? Why is that MOST of the guys who does that shit, these that I see at the gym every day - all look like a pile of shit. Yes, exactly - because they doesn't have any idea how to cycle stuff, how to set a goal and achieve it with specific comounds, just to be able to set a next goal, that leads to the ultimate "mutation" and so on..), get the fuck out of here.
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Like I said it's not just that. But to answer your question; side effects, legal aspects. For me the potential positives are not bigger than the potential negatives.
I'm happy being a 'natural sized' guy (obviously defined after the natural limits written in the bible).
I think that the biggest concern should be what it's going to look like when you stop...
im thinking in terms of living the moment and do it for purpose, but some doesn't and if you are one of them, than that really should be the question to ask yourself.