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I hate eating carbs. I look fat, watery, and bloofy as shit on them. Anytime I try 2g per lb of bodyweight, it's just a mess. Right now, I'm experimenting with 1.25-1.5g per lb.
How many carbs do you guys eat on a bulk and what do you think the bare minimum is for gaining size? I'm on prop, tren, and HGH right now and it isn't helping me look better on carbs
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maybe the type of carbs you are eating don't agree with your body? I can eat white rice and sweet potatoes (also some simple sugar here and there), but oatmeal and brown rice make me more bloated.
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everything you mentioned makes me look bloated unfortunately. At least when eaten in high quantities
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everything you mentioned makes me look bloated unfortunately. At least when eaten in high quantities
Maybe you're allergic to these.
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everything you mentioned makes me look bloated unfortunately. At least when eaten in high quantities
how many grams of carbs are you trying to eat?
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how many grams of carbs are you trying to eat?
I'm not allergic for the guy above
well I weight 225lbs at 5'10. I know I have low bodyfat but I hold water very easily. It's always been the case. I look my best at 1g per lb honestly. But I'm doing my very last lean bulk ever (no desire to get bigger after this. It's getting ridiculous) and I just hate it when my abs look watery as shit. If I attempt 450g of carbs, It's an ugly sight. Face looks fat and everything
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Cycle them , base them around your heavy lifting days.
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So how many carbs do you guys eat on a bulk? That was my main question
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maybe the type of carbs you are eating don't agree with your body? I can eat white rice and sweet potatoes (also some simple sugar here and there), but oatmeal and brown rice make me more bloated.
Same with me.
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Cycle them , base them around your heavy lifting days.
this^^^^
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I'm a low carb guy, the only time carbs worked so well and I looked my best when I dieted on low carbs for few months went low bf about 8%-9%, holding some water.
then blasted with high carbs diet I gained lean mass with amazing fullness and actually got more ripped and vascular.
my mistake I stayed long and did few fanatic cheat days I got so bloated and I'm sure I added some fat and looked very bad.
the moment I cut my carbs it just took me few days to lose the bloat and start improving once again.
so now I'm im doing the carb cycling for few then i hope carb blasting will do as it did the first time.
so trying cycling the carbs, and when you on high carbs avoid any sugary foods.
good luck.
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I'm a low carb guy, the only time carbs worked so well and I looked my best when I dieted on low carbs for few months went low bf about 8%-9%, holding some water.
then blasted with high carbs diet I gained lean mass with amazing fullness and actually got more ripped and vascular.
my mistake I stayed long and did few fanatic cheat days I got so bloated and I'm sure I added some fat and looked very bad.
the moment I cut my carbs it just took me few days to lose the bloat and start improving once again.
so now I'm im doing the carb cycling for few then i hope carb blasting will do as it did the first time.
so trying cycling the carbs, and when you on high carbs avoid any sugary foods.
good luck.
have you been able to gain mass on lowish carbs like 1g per lb of bodyweight?
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we eat a lot of carbs,, 200lb bodybuild in the singles 200-400 grams a day ,, 250+lb bodybuild in the singles....600-800 grams a day
we eat TONS of carbs,,ofcourse hgh in blood alwyas
if you think we grow from 5 chiken breast a day and some brokly lol you are servely wrong,,we put in glycogen like there is no tomorrow also down the good sweets like pine apple juice....like bananas,, we down it like there is no tomorow
gh15 approved
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we eat a lot of carbs,, 200lb bodybuild in the singles 200-400 grams a day ,, 250+lb bodybuild in the singles....600-800 grams a day
we eat TONS of carbs,,ofcourse hgh in blood alwyas
if you think we grow from 5 chiken breast a day and some brokly lol you are servely wrong,,we put in glycogen like there is no tomorrow also down the good sweets like pine apple juice....like bananas,, we down it like there is no tomorow
gh15 approved
I'm a 225lb bodybuild at 5'10. I don't always eat clean anymore. I pretty much eat whatever for the most part. I eat a truck load of oats though (blended and drank with water uncooked).
Here is a pic right after a workout from a few days ago. I am flexing my abs tight otherwise they wouldn't be that visible. I want them to be visible without having to flex them tight.
(http://i39.tinypic.com/1fzqcp.jpg)
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I'm a 225lb bodybuild at 5'10. I don't always eat clean anymore. I pretty much eat whatever for the most part. I eat a truck load of oats though (blended and drank with water uncooked).
Here is a pic right after a workout from a few days ago. I am flexing my abs tight otherwise they wouldn't be that visible. I want them to be visible without having to flex them tight.
(http://i39.tinypic.com/1fzqcp.jpg)
very big fella,,inorder for them to show with out flexing you wil have to lose water weight and get the skin more shrink wrapped,,how is it done? taking gh out....staying on trenbolona ....reducing testosterona ....and finishing with diuretic if must but really its not a must you can se all abs perfectly clear and cut even with no diuretic just form being low bodyfat with out the water.. even the sliightest amount of water fuck up lines,, doesnt mean its not there just mean it is blurred by water
gh15 approved
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All of you guys with this low carb shit makes no sense to me. Carbs are by far the most effective and metabolically clean of the three macronutrients as a source of energy. Getting your energy from protein involves gluconeogenesis which exhausts your liver and creates several metabolic poisons like ammonia and uric acid. Getting it from fat creates increased blood levels of triglycerides and ketones which increase plasma cholesterol level and increase the oxidation of LDL cholesterol in the liver leading to artherosclerosis. Glucose is the only energy-bearing molecule that can be utilized by all cells of your body directly - except brain cells which use lactate. Why the hell would anyone live on a low-carb diet is beyond me.
SUKCMYMUSCLE
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very big fella,,inorder for them to show with out flexing you wil have to lose water weight and get the skin more shrink wrapped,,how is it done? taking gh out....staying on trenbolona ....reducing testosterona ....and finishing with diuretic if must but really its not a must you can se all abs perfectly clear and cut even with no diuretic just form being low bodyfat with out the water.. even the sliightest amount of water fuck up lines,, doesnt mean its not there just mean it is blurred by water
gh15 approved
thanks for the advice god de hormonias. That's exactly what I was looking for. I'll give it a shot next time i go on vacation for a week and remove the hgh and lower the test (it's only 490mg per week right now anyways, not high) and keep the tren as is. Hopefully won't need the diuretic.
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All of you guys with this low carb shit makes no sense to me. Carbs are by far the most effective and metabolically clean of the three macronutrients as a source of energy. Getting your energy from protein involves gluconeogenesis which exhausts your liver and creates several metabolic poisons like ammonia and uric acid. Getting it from fat creates increased blood levels of triglycerides and ketones which increase plasma cholesterol level and increase the oxidation of LDL cholesterol in the liver leading to artherosclerosis. Glucose is the only energy-bearing molecule that can be utilized by all cells of your body directly - except brain cells which use lactate. Why the hell would anyone live on a low-carb diet is beyond me.
SUKCMYMUSCLE
I made it perfectly clear why. Maybe start reading my original post?
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we eat a lot of carbs,, 200lb bodybuild in the singles 200-400 grams a day ,, 250+lb bodybuild in the singles....600-800 grams a day
we eat TONS of carbs,,ofcourse hgh in blood alwyas
if you think we grow from 5 chiken breast a day and some brokly lol you are servely wrong,,we put in glycogen like there is no tomorrow also down the good sweets like pine apple juice....like bananas,, we down it like there is no tomorow
gh15 approved
and the reeces ice cream of course... gh15 how much do you eat of the breyers in one sitting how do you resist eating the all damn tub its that good...or do you just eat it all .. lol im on legit hk rips, tren too of course but still try to control urge of eating it all should i even bother? aim trying to grow as much as possible now after my first show thanks god
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very big fella,,inorder for them to show with out flexing you wil have to lose water weight and get the skin more shrink wrapped,,how is it done? taking gh out....staying on trenbolona ....reducing testosterona ....and finishing with diuretic if must but really its not a must you can se all abs perfectly clear and cut even with no diuretic just form being low bodyfat with out the water.. even the sliightest amount of water fuck up lines,, doesnt mean its not there just mean it is blurred by water
gh15 approved
And it's possible to grow like that?
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the minimum amount of carbs necessary is however many carbs you need in a day to keep your strength up when lifting. that's it. there are no essential carbs, so eat however many you want
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I'm a 225lb bodybuild at 5'10. I don't always eat clean anymore. I pretty much eat whatever for the most part. I eat a truck load of oats though (blended and drank with water uncooked).
Here is a pic right after a workout from a few days ago. I am flexing my abs tight otherwise they wouldn't be that visible. I want them to be visible without having to flex them tight.
(http://i39.tinypic.com/1fzqcp.jpg)
Do you train abs directly at all?
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Alpha you do any type of cardio?
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I'm not allergic for the guy above
well I weight 225lbs at 5'10. I know I have low bodyfat but I hold water very easily. It's always been the case. I look my best at 1g per lb honestly. But I'm doing my very last lean bulk ever (no desire to get bigger after this. It's getting ridiculous) and I just hate it when my abs look watery as shit. If I attempt 450g of carbs, It's an ugly sight. Face looks fat and everything
What ancillaries do you take? Sounds like you could use an AI, mast, and possibly some lasix.
Ideally, you want to eat as many carbs as possible during a bulk. Carbs are more anabolic than fats IMO.
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Do you train abs directly at all?
yes like 2-3x per week like 3-6 sets each time
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Alpha you do any type of cardio?
only when I am cutting I do it post workout every time. Hardly ever when bulking
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Alpha, for some reason I always thought you were black (from your avatar over on ProM).
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And it's possible to grow like that?
I don't think he is saying that. He is just explaining how to get shredded abs without flexing them (aka losing water)
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Alpha, for some reason I always thought you were black (from your avatar over on ProM).
yea also because I have the word "dawg" in my user name, I could see why you would think that. It is honestly a dumb user name that I probably should have spent more than 2 seconds thinking about before creating it.
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have you been able to gain mass on lowish carbs like 1g per lb of bodyweight?
to be honest I didn't try yet, but my first cutting cycle I kept and improved on high quality carbs and got ripped. that's as said after my very low carbs diet.
and I recently got serious about my diet and cutting/bulking. since I used to workout and eat clean keeping an expectable bf % and weight, but never looked ripped and I hated it.
I will try and see if I gain some mass now since I'm on a very low carbs this days and will let you know, even so I believe it's hard.
btw you look amazing bro.
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Cycle carbs,and drink boatloads of water and you`ll hold less fluid.
I mean tons of water and clean carbs only............not bread,bagels and cookies and shit.
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even if carbs aren't essenstial it's stupid to go too low on carbs if you are trying to add mass because you need energy to lift and glycogen status will effect hormonal status in the body. So i wouldn't go under 125-150g per day or so if you are looking to add mass (and that is a minimum).
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Experimenting with different amounts and going by the mirror and taking notes is a good thing to try also.
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Experimenting with different amounts and going by the mirror and taking notes is a good thing to try also.
yup you always need to experiment some when it comes to training and nutrition. you can use generic advice as a starting point then you need to do some experimenting on your own.
some people do better with a bit lower carbs and a bit higher fat and others vice versa. but super low carbs when trying to add mass is not a good idea (when dieting that is a different situation).
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Cycle carbs,and drink boatloads of water and you`ll hold less fluid.
I mean tons of water and clean carbs only............not bread,bagels and cookies and shit.
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Best and simplest advice on this thread!
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even if carbs aren't essenstial it's stupid to go too low on carbs if you are trying to add mass because you need energy to lift and glycogen status will effect hormonal status in the body. So i wouldn't go under 125-150g per day or so if you are looking to add mass (and that is a minimum).
yes but inversely, on the other end of the spectrum, when you eat too many carbs your insulin resistance goes up and you end up with fatty liver and the "hgh gut" that all the pros have. i think like everything, moderation is the best route. i don't agree with the dante philosophy that you need 7,000 calories a day to grow, that's ridiculous, especially for someone only running 2 grams a week.
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yes but inversely, on the other end of the spectrum, when you eat too many carbs your insulin resistance goes up and you end up with fatty liver and the "hgh gut" that all the pros have. i think like everything, moderation is the best route. i don't agree with the dante philosophy that you need 7,000 calories a day to grow, that's ridiculous, especially for someone only running 2 grams a week.
it depends on the situation. i mean if you are 300lbs pro bodybuilder (and using insulin, gh etc) and you need 6000 calories per day in the offseason then the calories have to come from somewhere.....
a 180lbs natural will just get fat as a pig eating 6000 calories (unless you have an extremely physically demanding job....)
so 'too many carbs' depends on the specific situation
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to be honest I didn't try yet, but my first cutting cycle I kept and improved on high quality carbs and got ripped. that's as said after my very low carbs diet.
and I recently got serious about my diet and cutting/bulking. since I used to workout and eat clean keeping an expectable bf % and weight, but never looked ripped and I hated it.
I will try and see if I gain some mass now since I'm on a very low carbs this days and will let you know, even so I believe it's hard.
btw you look amazing bro.
Yea I mean if I can still grow on like 300g of carbs, that would be awesome. I would hate to eat more or even less than that to be honest. I couldn't do the under 1g per lb shit, even to lose weight
and thanks
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even if carbs aren't essenstial it's stupid to go too low on carbs if you are trying to add mass because you need energy to lift and glycogen status will effect hormonal status in the body. So i wouldn't go under 125-150g per day or so if you are looking to add mass (and that is a minimum).
oh yea I wasn't talking about that low. I love eating carbs but once it gets to under 200g a day, I go insane. I just hate having to eat like 450g of carbs daily just to hit the arbitrary 2g per lb amount
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yes but inversely, on the other end of the spectrum, when you eat too many carbs your insulin resistance goes up and you end up with fatty liver and the "hgh gut" that all the pros have. i think like everything, moderation is the best route. i don't agree with the dante philosophy that you need 7,000 calories a day to grow, that's ridiculous, especially for someone only running 2 grams a week.
yea and I'm only one gram total with 5iu hgh. 7k cals a day is a bad idea for nearly anyone.
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oh yea I wasn't talking about that low. I love eating carbs but once it gets to under 200g a day, I go insane. I just hate having to eat like 450g of carbs daily just to hit the arbitrary 2g per lb amount
well it also obviously depends on your overall caloric needs.
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i cycle carb over years this works best for me for mass
i do 4 train chest/shoulder day is high carb-back/traps is high carb-legs is high carb -arms is moderate carb and 3 off days is 0 carb
but again after experiment i found this for me..that what i tell all my friend all time ,with diet everyone need experiment
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I GO HIGH PROTEIN HIGH FAT MODERATE CARB..CARBS ARE LIKE A GRAM PER BODY WEIGHT GIVE OR TAKE A FEW. I JUST UP THE FAT INTAKE.
SAME CALORIE AMOUNT YET MY WEIGHT WENT DOWN 1-2LBS BUT ALL ON MY FACE...THIS IS WHEN JUST ON TEST AND MAST.
WHEN ON HGH I HAD TO UP THE CALS AND FROM CARBS MAINLY BECAUSE I WAS CRAVING THEM.
I DONT SUBSCRIBE TO THIS 20 X BW CALORIE OR 2G PROTEIN PER LB OR 2G CARB PER LB. I JUST EAT WHEN IM HUNGRY BUT GET MY PROTEIN IN AND TRY TO KEEP WATER RETENTIN DAY ROUND MINIMAL BY GETTING EXTRA CALS FROM FAT LIKE PEANUT BUTTER, NUTS, AND THINGS LIKE SALMON. WHEN I DO CRAVE CARBS...USUALLY AFTER ANY TYPE OF EXERCISE I EAT SOME RICE AND FRUIT WITH LIKE CHICKEN OR EVEN SUSHI. :D
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for all the guys saying to cycle carbs, I know this is a good idea but it would just inconvenience my life and I don't really want to. Just being honest. I know it is good advice though. I believe there are other ways to accomplish it.
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I GO HIGH PROTEIN HIGH FAT MODERATE CARB..CARBS ARE LIKE A GRAM PER BODY WEIGHT GIVE OR TAKE A FEW. I JUST UP THE FAT INTAKE.
SAME CALORIE AMOUNT YET MY WEIGHT WENT DOWN 1-2LBS BUT ALL ON MY FACE...THIS IS WHEN JUST ON TEST AND MAST.
WHEN ON HGH I HAD TO UP THE CALS AND FROM CARBS MAINLY BECAUSE I WAS CRAVING THEM.
I DONT SUBSCRIBE TO THIS 20 X BW CALORIE OR 2G PROTEIN PER LB OR 2G CARB PER LB. I JUST EAT WHEN IM HUNGRY BUT GET MY PROTEIN IN AND TRY TO KEEP WATER RETENTIN DAY ROUND MINIMAL BY GETTING EXTRA CALS FROM FAT LIKE PEANUT BUTTER, NUTS, AND THINGS LIKE SALMON. WHEN I DO CRAVE CARBS...USUALLY AFTER ANY TYPE OF EXERCISE I EAT SOME RICE AND FRUIT WITH LIKE CHICKEN OR EVEN SUSHI. :D
And you grow on 1g of carbs per lb of bodyweight? This is what I am trying to figure out because I'd rather do that and still be able to grow. It would take away the bloated look I keep getting
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And you grow on 1g of carbs per lb of bodyweight? This is what I am trying to figure out because I'd rather do that and still be able to grow. It would take away the bloated look I keep getting
I DIDNT GROW CAUSE OF 1G OF CARBS. I GREW BECAUSE I USED STEROIDS. SERIOUS FUCKING TRUTH THERE.
ONLY THING CHANGED WHEN I ADDED THE GEAR WAS I WAS HUNGRIER FOR 1-3 MORE MEALS A DAY, THATS AN EXTRA 40-120G PROTEIN AND AN EXTRA 15-45G FAT AND MAYBE AN EXTRA 20G CARBS IF EVEN THAT.
HIGH PROTEIN AND SUFFICIENT CALORIES ARE ALL THAT REALLY MATTERS. IF UR SCARED OF WATER RETENTION DURING THE DAY LIKE ME, BE A LITTLE MORE ANAL ABOUT IT AND FOCUS ON THE FATS. MY CALS WERE HIGH CAUSE MY FAT AND PROTEIN WERE HIGH.
HIGH CARBS MADE ME A BIT MORE VASCULAR, BUT NOT WORTH IT AT THE COST OF A LITTLE PUFFIER FACE. I LOVE EPIC LEAN FACE, BUT I LOVE GAINS SO I JUST ADDED MORE CALS...BUT FROM FAT.
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it depends on the situation. i mean if you are 300lbs pro bodybuilder (and using insulin, gh etc) and you need 6000 calories per day in the offseason then the calories have to come from somewhere.....
a 180lbs natural will just get fat as a pig eating 6000 calories (unless you have an extremely physically demanding job....)
so 'too many carbs' depends on the specific situation
well, no one is talking about being natural here lol. it is different when you are running pro-bodybuilder dosages though, running 6 grams of steroids a week is going to burn a lot of calories in and of it self. but the reason pro-bodybuilders have such disgusting bodies is because they eat those 7,000-10,000 calories a day, it's not the slin or the hgh itself but at the same time i don't think there's really any other way to hit 300 pounds at 8% bodyfat without going to such extremes with the food.
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oh yea I wasn't talking about that low. I love eating carbs but once it gets to under 200g a day, I go insane. I just hate having to eat like 450g of carbs daily just to hit the arbitrary 2g per lb amount
100g carbs from an actual real food source pre-w/o and then another 100 p-wo. hgh and a gram of test will both give you some bloat, it's just part of the game, and there's not much you can do about it (assuming your ai isn't bunk). maybe some mast will help but that stuff will make your hair shed like crazy
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I DIDNT GROW CAUSE OF 1G OF CARBS. I GREW BECAUSE I USED STEROIDS. SERIOUS FUCKING TRUTH THERE.
ONLY THING CHANGED WHEN I ADDED THE GEAR WAS I WAS HUNGRIER FOR 1-3 MORE MEALS A DAY, THATS AN EXTRA 40-120G PROTEIN AND AN EXTRA 15-45G FAT AND MAYBE AN EXTRA 20G CARBS IF EVEN THAT.
HIGH PROTEIN AND SUFFICIENT CALORIES ARE ALL THAT REALLY MATTERS. IF UR SCARED OF WATER RETENTION DURING THE DAY LIKE ME, BE A LITTLE MORE ANAL ABOUT IT AND FOCUS ON THE FATS. MY CALS WERE HIGH CAUSE MY FAT AND PROTEIN WERE HIGH.
HIGH CARBS MADE ME A BIT MORE VASCULAR, BUT NOT WORTH IT AT THE COST OF A LITTLE PUFFIER FACE. I LOVE EPIC LEAN FACE, BUT I LOVE GAINS SO I JUST ADDED MORE CALS...BUT FROM FAT.
This is exactly the type of shit I wanted to read. We are pretty much the same. I HATE the puffy face. It ruins my general every-day confidence. Now I don't feel so bad not doing the 2g of carbs per lb stuff
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100g carbs from an actual real food source pre-w/o and then another 100 p-wo. hgh and a gram of test will both give you some bloat, it's just part of the game, and there's not much you can do about it (assuming your ai isn't bunk). maybe some mast will help but that stuff will make your hair shed like crazy
no I am on 1 gram of total gear, not test. I am only on 490mg of prop and 525mg of tren ace. The reason my test isn't high is exactly due to water retention. And to clarify with the hgh, I am using 10iu 4x per week post workout. I shoot it all at once after my workout. I am also on 25mg of proviron every day. Not using an AI
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Cycle carbs,and drink boatloads of water and you`ll hold less fluid.
I mean tons of water and clean carbs only............not bread,bagels and cookies and shit.
This
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Experimenting with different amounts and going by the mirror and taking notes is a good thing to try also.
And this
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no I am on 1 gram of total gear, not test. I am only on 490mg of prop and 525mg of tren ace. The reason my test isn't high is exactly due to water retention. And to clarify with the hgh, I am using 10iu 4x per week post workout. I shoot it all at once after my workout. I am also on 25mg of proviron every day. Not using an AI
i actually get a bloated face from tren itself. contrary to popular belief it can actually make you hold a little water, it could be that. have you run it alone before or the test alone before?
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i actually get a bloated face from tren itself. contrary to popular belief it can actually make you hold a little water, it could be that. have you run it alone before or the test alone before?
the only other time I used it was 350mg per week with 700mg of prop. This time I lowered the test and upped the train. Gains are just as good and the bloat is similar
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This is exactly the type of shit I wanted to read. We are pretty much the same. I HATE the puffy face. It ruins my general every-day confidence. Now I don't feel so bad not doing the 2g of carbs per lb stuff
THEN QUIT SUBSCRIBING TO THE BALONIE YOU READ FROM STUDIES.
WORRY ABOUT THIS....QUALITY ANABOLICS RUNNING THROUGH BODY, LOTS OF PROTEIN, SUFFICIENT CALORIC INTAKE(BASED ON APPETITE) AND IF U CAN AFFORD IT...THEN GH.
IM HURT NOW BUT BEFORE I WAS ON 500MG SCHERING TEST, 4IU NOVOTROPIN I WAS PUTTING DOWN ABOUT 280G PROTEIN, 105-115G FAT, 180-200G CARBS DAILY AT ABOUT 190LBS AND LEAN. SOME DAYS I WENT UP TO ABOUT 250G CARBS BECAUSE I WAS STILL STARVING...ON GH U NEED CARBS A BIT MORE IVE REALIZED....I DIDNT GET PUFFY WITH THE GH ON THE FACE.
EPIC LEAN FACE FTW.
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the only other time I used it was 350mg per week with 700mg of prop. This time I lowered the test and upped the train. Gains are just as good and the bloat is similar
IF UR RUNNING 40IU GH WEEKLY AND THAT 1 GRAM DOSAGE DO THIS FOR EPIC LEAN GAINS:
500MG TREN
300MG MASTERON
200MG PROP
10IU GH BEFORE WORKOUT...YES BEFORE....GO WITH QUALITY PRODUCTS....WHAT BRAND U USING. DO BEFORE WORKOUT EMPTY STOMACH...DONT BE OCD BUT EAT, GET AN EMPTY STOMACH INJECT GH, DRINK UR PRE-WO, GO TO GYM, LIFT, EAT.
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Cycle carbs,and drink boatloads of water and you`ll hold less fluid.
I mean tons of water and clean carbs only............not bread,bagels and cookies and shit.
What's wrong with bread?
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What's wrong with bread?
Doesn`t build any muscle whatsoever.............. I could care less what kind you buy.
Bread is for children,when you get older you eat oatmeal!! ;D
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What other sources of carbs should not be eaten?
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Doesn`t build any muscle whatsoever.............. I could care less what kind you buy.
Bread is for children,when you get older you eat oatmeal!! ;D
oh i can assure you, you will gain mass very well on bread alone as it breaks down to glucose in the body. also, a carb is a carb and when it comes down to building muscle it's mostly about meeting metabolic requirements, necessary blood nitrogen levels as well as enough calories (which any type of carbs will fulfill), to create an anabolic rather than catabolic environment
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oh i can assure you, you will gain mass very well on bread alone as it breaks down to glucose in the body. also, a carb is a carb and when it comes down to building muscle it's mostly about meeting metabolic requirements, necessary blood nitrogen levels as well as enough calories (which any type of carbs will fulfill), to create an anabolic rather than catabolic environment
A calorie is not a calorie and a macroinutrient is not just a macronutrient as far as building a good physique goes.
Bread is a simple carb loaded with preservatives and nowhere near as good as slower digesting carbs such as brown rice,yams,oats,etc.
For a quick digesting carb,try dextrose or honey post-workout.
Bread tastes great,but it sux as far as nutrition goes and as a carb source for bodybuilding it flat out blows!!
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What other sources of carbs should not be eaten?
Do a Google search for good clean carb sources.
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I thought, from studies from people like Alan Aragon etc that a carb was a carb - the only difference between various carbs was the fibre and other nutrition content in terms of vitamins etc
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I thought, from studies from people like Alan Aragon etc that a carb was a carb - the only difference between various carbs was the fibre and other nutrition content in terms of vitamins etc
Fuck Alan Aragon.......he`s trying to make a buck!
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My mind is full of fuck. So in terms of what I can eat then - oats, potatoes, brown rice?
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My mind is full of fuck. So in terms of what I can eat then - oats, potatoes, brown rice?
Oatmeal
Cream of Wheat
Yams
Potatoes (preferably baked)
Sweet Potatoes
Brown Rice
White Rice
Fibrous vegetables
These are clean carb sources............you can eat other stuff like bread,twinkies,marshmallows,etc., but these are the best carb sources for bodybuilding purposes.
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Unrefined carbohydrates - work from there.
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Oatmeal
Cream of Wheat
Yams
Potatoes (preferably baked)
Sweet Potatoes
Brown Rice
White Rice
Fibrous vegetables
These are clean carb sources............you can eat other stuff like bread,twinkies,marshmallows,etc., but these are the best carb sources for bodybuilding purposes.
Thanks, to be honest that's pretty much all I get in terms of carbs anyway. My carb intake for the day is usually all in the form of oats and rice but I was under the impression that IIFYM was true. I guess I'll have to re-evaluate but I was convinced by studies that this was the case.
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Thanks, to be honest that's pretty much all I get in terms of carbs anyway. My carb intake for the day is usually all in the form of oats and rice but I was under the impression that IIFYM was true. I guess I'll have to re-evaluate but I was convinced by studies that this was the case.
IIFYM is just an excuse to eat shitty.
Tons of guys eat like crap in the off-season,and I have my cheat meals also,but you have to take into account the amounts of drugs some guys are on as well as genetics and cardio.
Otherwise,you can just gain a lot of fat that you`ll have to lose later on.
Eat clean,just eat more when trying to gain muscle size.
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I'll try to clean up my diet a little more then. What are your opinions on keto?
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I'll try to clean up my diet a little more then. What are your opinions on keto?
Personally,I like eating carbs.
Look up my carb cycling article online.
Just Google Tim Wescott Carb Cycling
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Oatmeal
Cream of Wheat
Yams
Potatoes (preferably baked)
Sweet Potatoes
Brown Rice
White Rice
Fibrous vegetables
These are clean carb sources............you can eat other stuff like bread,twinkies,marshmallows,etc., but these are the best carb sources for bodybuilding purposes.
HALF OF THAT SHIT BLUNTS MY APPETITE...SEE WHICH CARBS ALLOW YOU TO EAT AGAIN, SOONER. FOR ME RICE, QUIONA, AND USUALLY FRUITS. POTATOES, OATMEAL FOR SURE, ETC. BLOAT THE FUCK OUT OF ME AND KILL MY APPETITE FOR LIKE 3-4 HOURS.
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HALF OF THAT SHIT BLUNTS MY APPETITE...SEE WHICH CARBS ALLOW YOU TO EAT AGAIN, SOONER. FOR ME RICE, QUIONA, AND USUALLY FRUITS. POTATOES, OATMEAL FOR SURE, ETC. BLOAT THE FUCK OUT OF ME AND KILL MY APPETITE FOR LIKE 3-4 HOURS.
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Simple solution.......eat every 3-4 hours.
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Simple solution.......eat every 3-4 hours.
DUMB SHIT BRO.
IF I CAN EAT 40G OF CARBS FROM RICE, WITH MY PROTEIN & FAT AND BE HUNGRY AGAIN FOR ANOTHER MEAL IN 1.5 HRS, WHY WOULD I EAT 40G CARBS FROM OATMEAL AND WAIT EVEN LONGER TO EAT.
MAKE URSELF HUNGRIER, AND THEN EAT. WILL EATING OATMEAL OR RICE ALLOW ME TO CONSUME MORE FOODS AT THE END OF THE DAY?
RICE.
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A calorie is not a calorie and a macroinutrient is not just a macronutrient as far as building a good physique goes.
Bread is a simple carb loaded with preservatives and nowhere near as good as slower digesting carbs such as brown rice,yams,oats,etc.
For a quick digesting carb,try dextrose or honey post-workout.
Bread tastes great,but it sux as far as nutrition goes and as a carb source for bodybuilding it flat out blows!!
if you are physically active the GI of carbs is largely irrelevant because your insulin sensitivity is high and the carbs get shuttled into muscle tissue, rather than stored in adipose tissue like if you are sedentary with high insulin resistance. for a bodybuilder, what matters is the total calories and getting enough of the necessary micro and macro-nutrients to allow growth to happen in an environment where there is sufficient stimuli exerted on muscles to induce the growth
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if you are physically active the GI of carbs is largely irrelevant because your insulin sensitivity is high and the carbs get shuttled into muscle tissue, rather than stored in adipose tissue like if you are sedentary with high insulin resistance. for a bodybuilder, what matters is the total calories and getting enough of the necessary micro and macro-nutrients to allow growth to happen in an environment where there is sufficient stimuli exerted on muscles to induce the growth
Have a loaf or two of bread on me then.............just don`t bitch at me if you put on too much fat.
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DUMB SHIT BRO.
IF I CAN EAT 40G OF CARBS FROM RICE, WITH MY PROTEIN & FAT AND BE HUNGRY AGAIN FOR ANOTHER MEAL IN 1.5 HRS, WHY WOULD I EAT 40G CARBS FROM OATMEAL AND WAIT EVEN LONGER TO EAT.
MAKE URSELF HUNGRIER, AND THEN EAT. WILL EATING OATMEAL OR RICE ALLOW ME TO CONSUME MORE FOODS AT THE END OF THE DAY?
RICE.
I don`t quite understand your post,but my advice would be to do whatever works best for your particular body and for your particular goals.
Good luck.
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It's all macros. I've tried it both ways. In the end, the only thing that matters is total daily macros. I have never eaten less than 5-6 times per day though
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Have a loaf or two of bread on me then.............just don`t bitch at me if you put on too much fat.
bro, i've bulked solely on bread before, eating 500 grams of bread a day and i didn't get "fat" as i still had abs and striations but i did get the hgh gut, from excessive blood glucose levels, that you see on every single pro-bodybuilder who also eats excessive carbs.
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bro, i've bulked solely on bread before, eating 500 grams of bread a day and i didn't get "fat" as i still had abs and striations but i did get the hgh gut, from excessive blood glucose levels, that you see on every single pro-bodybuilder who also eats excessive carbs.
Key word being "excessive".....why eat "excessive " carbs?
Plus,who wants a big gut.
Are you a pro bodybuilder?
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well, bread is delicious, no need to clean dishes, wash pots and pans, or cook anything. gut goes away in a week or 2 any ways once you cut down. who the hell wants to bulk on just tuna and oats anyways? fuck that.
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Oatmeal
Cream of Wheat
Yams
Potatoes (preferably baked)
Sweet Potatoes
Brown Rice
White Rice
Fibrous vegetables
These are clean carb sources............you can eat other stuff like bread,twinkies,marshmallows,etc., but these are the best carb sources for bodybuilding purposes.
What kind of bread are talking about?
and putting it at the same line with marshmallows ???
Alpha before counting carbs why wouldn't you take more care about sodium intake?
also your test dose isn't low (i mean if that's low for you i don't even wanna know what's high for you)
and why don't you just spread the gh dosage equally for the whole week?
i see no reason doing all the 5on/ 2off or 4on/3off it doesn't make sense, gh is working just stick and needle and inject it...
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well, bread is delicious, no need to clean dishes, wash pots and pans, or cook anything. gut goes away in a week or 2 any ways once you cut down. who the hell wants to bulk on just tuna and oats anyways? fuck that.
Try steak,eggs,chicken,pasta,cottage cheese,lean ground beef,rice and potatoes bro!! :)
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What kind of bread are talking about?
and putting it at the same line with marshmallows ???
Alpha before counting carbs why wouldn't you take more care about sodium intake?
also your test dose isn't low (i mean if that's low for you i don't even wanna know what's high for you)
and why don't you just spread the gh dosage equally for the whole week?
i see no reason doing all the 5on/ 2off or 4on/3off it doesn't make sense, gh is working just stick and needle and inject it...
The marshmallow thing was sarcasm.
I eat bread at times,but I wouldn`t over indulge, and just personally feel that the other carbs I listed are far better.
To each his own.
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I don`t quite understand your post,but my advice would be to do whatever works best for your particular body and for your particular goals.
Good luck.
MY POINT IS THIS.
IF I HAVE AN APPETITE FOR 8 MEALS A DAY OR 6 MEALS A DAY, WHICH WILL MAKE ME GROW FASTER?
8 MEALS A DAY. THE APPETITE WOULD COME FROM PICKING FOODS THAT MADE ME MORE HUNGRY THAN THE 6 MEALS A DAY ONE, BUT ALSO AND MAINLY DUE TO DRUGS.
IF I HATE OATMEAL INSTEAD OF RICE POST-WORKOUT, I GUARANTEE YOU I WOULD LOSE AT LEAST 1 OR 2 MEALS A DAY DUE TO NO APPETITE. THATS AN EXTRA 400-800 KCAL DROP. BUT AGAIN NO ONE GET ME CONFUSED ITS PURELY THE DRUGS THAT ALLOW YOU TO EAT THIS WAY.
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It's all macros. I've tried it both ways. In the end, the only thing that matters is total daily macros. I have never eaten less than 5-6 times per day though
YOUR MISSING THE POINT THEN.
HOW THE HELL ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO KNOW YOUR DAILY MACROS. JUST SUPPOSED TO DO THIS 1.5G BW PER CARB, PROTEIN AND .5G PER FAT AND CALL IT A DAY, DIVIDE THAT INTO 5 OR 6 MEALS?
IF WORKOUT DAYS CONSIST OF THAT, BUT.....ON ONE WORKOUT DAY ALL YOU DO IS LIFT AND GO HOME AND SIT ON GET BIG, BUT THE OTHER YOU LIFT, GO OUT CLUBBING, RUN ERRANDS.....THOSE CALORIC DEMANDS THE SAME? NO YOULL BE HUNGRIER ON THAT 2ND DAY.
LET YOUR APPETITE DICTATE YOUR MACROS. ITS REALLY PRESCHOOL STUFF, ITS JUST THESE FANCY GURUS AND ANTI-STEROID BITCHES THAT KILLED IT.
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MY POINT IS THIS.
IF I HAVE AN APPETITE FOR 8 MEALS A DAY OR 6 MEALS A DAY, WHICH WILL MAKE ME GROW FASTER?
8 MEALS A DAY. THE APPETITE WOULD COME FROM PICKING FOODS THAT MADE ME MORE HUNGRY THAN THE 6 MEALS A DAY ONE, BUT ALSO AND MAINLY DUE TO DRUGS.
IF I HATE OATMEAL INSTEAD OF RICE POST-WORKOUT, I GUARANTEE YOU I WOULD LOSE AT LEAST 1 OR 2 MEALS A DAY DUE TO NO APPETITE. THATS AN EXTRA 400-800 KCAL DROP. BUT AGAIN NO ONE GET ME CONFUSED ITS PURELY THE DRUGS THAT ALLOW YOU TO EAT THIS WAY.
OK,I see what you mean now.
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marshmallows,
(http://4gifs.org/gallery/d/220788-1/Marshmallow.jpg)
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(http://4gifs.org/gallery/d/220788-1/Marshmallow.jpg)
Almost lost my second cup of coffee on this one!! LOL ;D
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(http://4gifs.org/gallery/d/220788-1/Marshmallow.jpg)
Maybe it's just the glow of the candle but she is one ugly bitch.
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909/950/999
Corn will do it can you produce some corn pics BDB?
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Doesn`t build any muscle whatsoever.............. I could care less what kind you buy.
Bread is for children,when you get older you eat oatmeal!! ;D
Getting older is really messing up your mind wes huh?
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A calorie is not a calorie and a macroinutrient is not just a macronutrient as far as building a good physique goes.
Bread is a simple carb loaded with preservatives and nowhere near as good as slower digesting carbs such as brown rice,yams,oats,etc.
For a quick digesting carb,try dextrose or honey post-workout.
Bread tastes great,but it sux as far as nutrition goes and as a carb source for bodybuilding it flat out blows!!
LOL. I'm wondering if you're just joking or being serious? ???
Bread is not a simple carb. What preservatives are you talking about? Many types of bread out there have none in them.
Bread is a great carb source, just as good as any of the others you posted. It is made from wheat, which is a cereal grain. Rice & oats are cereal grains too you know.
The only difference would be fiber content depending on what type of bread you eat.
The sad part is you were unnecessarily confusing some guys in here with the typical broscience "only eat these foods".
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LOL. I'm wondering if you're just joking or being serious? ???
Bread is not a simple carb. What preservatives are you talking about? Many types of bread out there have none in them.
Bread is a great carb source, just as good as any of the others you posted. It is made from wheat, which is a cereal grain. Rice & oats are cereal grains too you know.
The only difference would be fiber content depending on what type of bread you eat.
The sad part is you were unnecessarily confusing some guys in here with the typical broscience "only eat these foods".
Eat whatever you want then,and straighten out all the guys I confused in this thread.
Oh yeah,fuck bread!! ;D
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You guys on low carb to zero carb diets are crazy. Eating carbs is one of the best things life offers. Ice cream is mostly carbs, so is pizza and candy. It is the most metabolically clean of the three macro nutrients and the most efficient energy source. Getting your energy from either fat or protein creates several problems for your body, such as acidosis, ammonia and uric acid poisoning and liver and kidney exhaustion. It is also debatable if the brain can go indefinitely on ketones without being damaged, or if the liver can turn protein into glucose at a rate that is sufficient to provide the brain with the lactate it needs.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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You guys on low carb to zero carb diets are crazy. Eating carbs is one of the best things life offers. Ice cream is mostly carbs, so is pizza and candy. It is the most metabolically clean of the three macro nutrients and the most efficient energy source. Getting your energy from either fat or protein creates several problems for your body, such as acidosis, ammonia and uric acid poisoning and liver and kidney exhaustion. It is also debatable if the brain can go indefinitely on ketones without being damaged, or if the liver can turn protein into glucose at a rate that is sufficient to provide the brain with the lactate it needs.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Correct,pasta,ice cream,bread,bagels,pie,etc., ......................al l carb sources............my meaning was "clean" carbs.
Didn`t mean to start a shitstorm,but I like clean carbs better with occasional cheat days/meals thrown for sanitys sake.
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YOUR MISSING THE POINT THEN.
HOW THE HELL ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO KNOW YOUR DAILY MACROS. JUST SUPPOSED TO DO THIS 1.5G BW PER CARB, PROTEIN AND .5G PER FAT AND CALL IT A DAY, DIVIDE THAT INTO 5 OR 6 MEALS?
IF WORKOUT DAYS CONSIST OF THAT, BUT.....ON ONE WORKOUT DAY ALL YOU DO IS LIFT AND GO HOME AND SIT ON GET BIG, BUT THE OTHER YOU LIFT, GO OUT CLUBBING, RUN ERRANDS.....THOSE CALORIC DEMANDS THE SAME? NO YOULL BE HUNGRIER ON THAT 2ND DAY.
LET YOUR APPETITE DICTATE YOUR MACROS. ITS REALLY PRESCHOOL STUFF, ITS JUST THESE FANCY GURUS AND ANTI-STEROID BITCHES THAT KILLED IT.
I've never bought into the "eat when hungry." On orals, many aren't hungry. Does that mean they shouldn't eat and still expect to grow? I've had a minor cold the last few days and lost my appetite. Know what I did? I ate what I usually do anyway. On fat burners, we lose our appetites as well. We still have to eat.
Having said that, I see your point about needing more calories on more active days. I will adjust my macros based on my daily activity so I do that already. I don't disagree with that at all because I do it too
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You guys on low carb to zero carb diets are crazy. Eating carbs is one of the best things life offers. Ice cream is mostly carbs, so is pizza and candy. It is the most metabolically clean of the three macro nutrients and the most efficient energy source. Getting your energy from either fat or protein creates several problems for your body, such as acidosis, ammonia and uric acid poisoning and liver and kidney exhaustion. It is also debatable if the brain can go indefinitely on ketones without being damaged, or if the liver can turn protein into glucose at a rate that is sufficient to provide the brain with the lactate it needs.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
your such a fucking idiot. I lost the tiny bit of respect I had to you after this post. From a health perspective, you can not get too much protein. ! It is used to rebuild every cell/tissue in the human body. The more calories that come from protein and fat and the less from carbs, the healthier you will be. The only reason I'm eating carbs is cause gh15 told me to to grow but if I was not bodybuilding and wanted to be as healthy as possible, I would eat fish,fruits, vegetables,chicken ,etcetc and keep carbs as low as I could. Just finished a chocolate bar ;)
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your such a fucking idiot. I lost the tiny bit of respect I had to you after this post. From a health perspective, you can not get too much protein. ! It is used to rebuild every cell/tissue in the human body. The more calories that come from protein and fat and the less from carbs, the healthier you will be. The only reason I'm eating carbs is cause gh15 told me to to grow but if I was not bodybuilding and wanted to be as healthy as possible, I would eat fish,fruits, vegetables,chicken ,etcetc and keep carbs as low as I could. Just finished a chocolate bar ;)
Says the 19 year old teen that thinks eating carbs causes diabetes, believes in "caveman diets", thinks he has better genetics than Dennis Newman and loves to jack off with his buddy.
You're joke buddy.
"I only eat carbs because gh15 said so".....lol........."You cannot eat too much protein".
LOL
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your such a fucking idiot. I lost the tiny bit of respect I had to you after this post. From a health perspective, you can not get too much protein. ! It is used to rebuild every cell/tissue in the human body. The more calories that come from protein and fat and the less from carbs, the healthier you will be. The only reason I'm eating carbs is cause gh15 told me to to grow but if I was not bodybuilding and wanted to be as healthy as possible, I would eat fish,fruits, vegetables,chicken ,etcetc and keep carbs as low as I could. Just finished a chocolate bar ;)
If you had any idea how stupid and uneducated on Human physiology and biochemistry you come across with this stupid post you just made, you would go away in shame. Too bad your self-confidence is as high as your intelligence is low.
Getbig is the only place where you get called "stupid" by people with IQs over 50 points lower than yours.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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your such a fucking idiot. I lost the tiny bit of respect I had to you after this post. From a health perspective, you can not get too much protein. ! It is used to rebuild every cell/tissue in the human body. The more calories that come from protein and fat and the less from carbs, the healthier you will be. The only reason I'm eating carbs is cause gh15 told me to to grow but if I was not bodybuilding and wanted to be as healthy as possible, I would eat fish,fruits, vegetables,chicken ,etcetc and keep carbs as low as I could. Just finished a chocolate bar ;)
actually, yes you can get too much protein. it puts a tremendous strain on the kidneys to filter the protein which essentially is just going to get converted into glucose and fat in the body any ways, so why bother? you really think you need 400 grams of protein a day? think about how big of a steak that would be and if you really put on that much muscle in a day. silly.
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"Flinststone" is truly a dumbass. The guy goes on to preach how he would never eat carbs for health, then in the same sentence mentions fruits as one of the foods he would eat, which are 95% carbs and water with the rest being fiber. He then goes on to say how you can never get enough protein. Following this line of reasoning a pound of protein is better than 100 grams and a ton is better than a pound. Never mind that a high protein intake is directly correlated with acidosis which correlates with both arthritis and gout, and also with increased levels of both ammonia and creatinine which are inversely related to lifespan.
How can anyone have any serious debates with these geniuses we have here on Getbig, like this fucking dumbass "Flintstone"? The guy is 100% wrong on everything, has no idea what he's talking about but is so self-assured that he's right that he calls you stupid(what he is) and doesen't even care to understand why he is wrong.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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"Flinststone" is truly a dumbass. The guy goes on to preach how he would never eat carbs for health, then in the same sentence mentions fruits as one of the foods he would eat, which are 95% carbs and water with the rest being fiber. He then goes on to say how you can never get enough protein. Following this line of reasoning a pound of protein is better than 100 grams and a ton is better than a pound. Never mind that a high protein intake is directly correlated with acidosis which correlates with both arthritis and gout, and also with increased levels of both ammonia and creatinine which are inversely related to lifespan.
How can anyone have any serious debates with these geniuses we have here on Getbig, like this fucking dumbass "Flintstone"? The guy is 100% wrong on everything, has no idea what he's talking about but is so self-assured that he's right that he calls you stupid(what he is) and doesen't even care to understand why he is wrong.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Don't even bother with him. A quick look at this thread will show you who you're dealing with:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=392961.0
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If you get all your carbs from low i.e gycemic carbs you will look bloated and feel like shit. Get some from sugar i.e juice,ice cream, pop even it will make it so much easier. 500grams of carbs shouldnt be hard if you drink a little juice. Or get a lot of carbs around workout dont try to eat 500+ carbs of fucking oatmeal come on gh15 has been preaching juice and icecream comman sense. Hell before i even knew who gh15 was I I realised not to eat 15 bowels of oatmeal and brown rice. Add juice or even a can a pop if you feel like it cinnamon rolls what ever. You will feel and look much better I dont care who says its not true.
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one more carb trick I have never heard anyone talk about if you want to look good during the day and not bloated. Eat 200-300 carbs during the day an easy amount then before you go to sleep eat 200 or so when you wake up you will be full and lean looking. Basically eat a clean diet during the day then before bed eat one big dirty meal I actually have found this my favorite plan. I know Im not the biggest on here by no stretch but you also have to realise I was built on nothing but 1gram of test a week.
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If you get all your carbs from low i.e gycemic carbs you will look bloated and feel like shit. Get some from sugar i.e juice,ice cream, pop even it will make is much easier. 500grams of carbs shouldnt be hard if you drink a little juice. Or get a lot of carbs around workout dont try to eat 500+ carbs of fucking oatmeal come on gh15 has been preaching juice and icecream comman sense. Hell before i even knew who gh15 was I I realised not to eat 15 bowels of oatmeal and brown rice. Add juice or even a can a pop if you feel like it cinnamon rolls what ever. You will feel and look much better I dont care who says its not true.
lol ,, back when i was 18 lol i decided to eat as much oatmeal as i could ,, just oats lol i wanted to have lots of good quality crbs ,, i did it for a week lol ,, you should have seen me screaming in the bathroom like a pregnant chikitita whiel trying to take a dump ,, it all blew up in my stomack and got to be a big turd of shit that didnt go out,, god have mercy on that restroom ,, i dumped such a big turd i swear it was size of basketball al blow up oats,,
hands on friends... hands on lol
gh15 approved
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A few fucking cinnamon rolls that are lower in fat works wonders. I like ice cream to but it gets to you after a while. Cinnamon rolls = everything waxy maize should be lol Nothing better then icecream and cinnamon rolls before bed with a little milk and you wake up pumped and sleep like a baby.
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If you get all your carbs from low i.e gycemic carbs you will look bloated and feel like shit. Get some from sugar i.e juice,ice cream, pop even it will make is much easier. 500grams of carbs shouldnt be hard if you drink a little juice. Or get a lot of carbs around workout dont try to eat 500+ carbs of fucking oatmeal come on gh15 has been preaching juice and icecream comman sense. Hell before i even knew who gh15 was I I realised not to eat 15 bowels of oatmeal and brown rice. Add juice or even a can a pop if you feel like it cinnamon rolls what ever. You will feel and look much better I dont care who says its not true.
QFMFT!
When I was younger I tried eating a lot of carbs like oatmeal and brown rice. I felt like shiiiiiit and I think I fucked up my stomach a little bit. :-\ Oatmeal and brown rice are great if you want to diet obviously because they make you feel full. If trying to grow you shouldn't be eating those carbs or at least you should keep them to a minimun. The thing is, the mags and internet gurus are so full of shit or they're just talking out of their asses, so the newbies keep repeating the same thing we did. :-\
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SO... a carb ISN'T a carb and a calorie ISN'T a calorie?
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SO... a carb ISN'T a carb and a calorie ISN'T a calorie?
No a carbs not a carb cinnamon rolls and icecream taste better :) just dont eat chips I hate the fucking food
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SO... a carb ISN'T a carb and a calorie ISN'T a calorie?
A calorie is only a calorie if I say so, and a carb is always a carb until the body either burns it rleasing carbon dioxide and water or turns it into fat.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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A calorie is only a calorie if I say so, and a carb is always a carb until the body either burns it rleasing carbon dioxide and water or turns it into fat.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
But what I mean is, If I eat 50g of carbs from oats, will it have the same effect on body composition than if i ate 50g of carbs from haribo?
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But what I mean is, If I eat 50g of carbs from oats, will it have the same effect on body composition than if i ate 50g of carbs from haribo?
what the hell is haribo? juice,icecream icecream is funny it digest slow because it has to melt,cinnamon rolls because cinnamon rolls are the best of anything go on facebook and put who wants to comeover and eat icecream and cinnamon rolls with me you might get layed
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what the hell is haribo?
Not sure if srs...
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ice cream is a better carb source than oats apparently
only on getbig folks
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lol ,, back when i was 18 lol i decided to eat as much oatmeal as i could ,, just oats lol i wanted to have lots of good quality crbs ,, i did it for a week lol ,, you should have seen me screaming in the bathroom like a pregnant chikitita whiel trying to take a dump ,, it all blew up in my stomack and got to be a big turd of shit that didnt go out,, god have mercy on that restroom ,, i dumped such a big turd i swear it was size of basketball al blow up oats,,
hands on friends... hands on lol
gh15 approved
I know this feeling all too well, lol. ;D Carbs bloat the shit out of me and make me take dumps as big as Khofo.
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Carbs during the day only = greens and protein at night = not rocket science. Carbs daytime so as to have energy to burn them night you dont need them unless you are pounding a hoe.
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ice cream is a better carb source than oats apparently
only on getbig folks
^THIS^
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Carbs during the day only = greens and protein at night = not rocket science. Carbs daytime so as to have energy to burn them night you dont need them unless you are pounding a hoe.
^AND THIS^
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BREAKING NEWS:
You can eat almost any fucking thing you want and still look decent if you are on a boatload of drugs and a bucket of Growth Hormone 5 X a day.
Details when you get fat at 11:00
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Carbs during the day only = greens and protein at night = not rocket science. Carbs daytime so as to have energy to burn them night you dont need them unless you are pounding a hoe.
where talking about not being bloated during the day.
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ice cream is a better carb source than oats apparently
only on getbig folks
no but all clean carbs is a will bloat you to much volume. It dont have to be icecream,juice,pop,pop tarts obviously there are more sensible choices then others but where trying to make this easy. And getbig is the smartest bodybuilding board on the net.
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ice cream is a better carb source than oats apparently
only on getbig folks
mammals drink milk.
they rarely ever eat oats, and if they do they arent processed into the form you find in stores.
the myth of grains being healthy is one of the biggest misconceptions concerning nutrition
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only when you go on legit gh of thr highest purity you finaly underdstasnd what bodybuild is all about...the reason in the past there were not many pro and top amatuer was simply because no one had approach to high quality gh ...the ones who had bought serostim and humatrope and over ngiht became advanced bodybuild no matter what they ate as long as macros kept,,
fellas today are bodybuild in the mases becuase they have approach to legit gh ...they have found out that there is such a thing as pharm grade gh coming from china like kigtropin ,, and they arreall becoming top national cxompetitiors on it
the problem is that until they discover it they spit blood tears and so mjuch hard work....but when they finaly discover it they walk around thinking to themselves how STUPID they were about thinking abotu carb this carb that...
the truth of the matter is LEGIT GH is the key for bodybuild
gh15 approved
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hey gh I want to get picture of dennis newman,,,. I want to see difference between delts on anabolic steroids and delts on anbolic steroids and gh for me. Was gh in system in both of these pics? Or we're 21 year old pics I posted in red shirt from just AAS? give me sec
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dennis at 24...
(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/51620-1/58+Dennis+Newman+photo.jpg)
dennis at 21
(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/51618-1/57+Dennis+Newman+picture.jpg)
(http://muscleshots.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/mystery53.jpg)
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BREAKING NEWS:
You can eat almost any fucking thing you want and still look decent if you are on a boatload of drugs and a bucket of Growth Hormone 5 X a day.
Details when you get fat at 11:00
Tren test and 40iu of gh a week is what OP is on.
i agree with your posts about clean food, but on the said drugs you are not gonna get too far on clean food.
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Tren test and 40iu of gh a week is what OP is on.
i agree with your posts about clean food, but on the said drugs you are not gonna get too far on clean food.
Well,I eat my share of junk carbs but I`m not on GH,so I can`t allow myself to get too pussified in the gym or at the table.
I like to train balls to the wall and eat clean for the most part..............for the most part!!
Ate like shit for the last 3 years and had to lose 8 inches on my waist this year since April.............. (long story) but never again.
Whatever you do,train with a passion,and like a demon,don`t just eat like shit and up the dosage.....that`s what`s fucking up the sport. :'(
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I would train like a pussy too if I was injecting a lot of shit. why work hard if you don't need it! :D
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dennis at 24...
(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/51620-1/58+Dennis+Newman+photo.jpg)
dennis at 21
(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/51618-1/57+Dennis+Newman+picture.jpg)
(http://muscleshots.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/mystery53.jpg)
this is all hgh pictures,, denis was build on hgh ,,the way you look into hgh physiqe is from the wasit to delts and not from delts to waist,,you gto from the buttom to the tom ,, if fella has tight yet large physiqe as in lots of surface on the torso ...as in his 30 inch waist look lik 33 inch waist...as in 3 dimentional look to the torse that is created due to SEPERATION of muscle and not only due to bodyfat...then this fella is on hgh and consistant usage of hgh ,, denis was always hgh,,the 90s physiqe is based on hgh ,,hgh volumize you from within ,, you can be same weight as someone who is not on hgh and same bodyfat! yet look almost double the volume and surface of muscule on the frame ,, as in the 120 lb whore will have harder time to wrap her legs around you or arms around you when you fuck her as in ....she will always look at you with few blinkings and with the nauty smile that within minutes will turn into he puling you to bed room saying she is horny ....you wont know the reason but the reson is hgh running through the veins my friend ,, it make the male hold volume that female find very attractive since it is LEAN volume and chizeled volume ,,, you hold some water yes but the quality of the physiqe is out of this world,, as in lean ,, seperated and thick if use right aas with it
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