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If there is such footage, I'd like to see or hear it.
This man is the American Ideal and pure genius.
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Ron is a highly intelligent man with a message, I doubt he'd ever be owned in a debate by the morons running against him.
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Here he is owning another mainstream media scumbag yesterday not a debate but the interviewers always give him trap questions and insinuate and demogogue to cause fear...It doesn't work with Dr. Paul because he speaks 100% truth and it's spreading.
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I forgot about that asshole Bruno pulling that shit...he's funny as hell though.
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Every other politician that I've heard running for president in the last 30 years has been owned in some way whether it be their inconsistancies lying, ideas not in the best interest of the United States, or ideas in direct contrast to our Consistution.
This includes OBAMA.
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Wiggs, are you planning on working for Ron Paul's campaign?
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Wiggs, are you planning on working for Ron Paul's campaign?
I already started on Saturday. Phone calls. A great bunch of Americans to be around. Tomorrow at HQ we are having a debate watching party. Can't wait.
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I already started on Saturday. Phone calls. A great bunch of Americans to be around. Tomorrow at HQ we are having a debate watching party. Can't wait.
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Poop Paul the loser. Weakest would be Commander In Chief who kowtows to the Muslim world, bootlicking and all. The Piece of Trash known as Poop Paul even said he would not have gone after Bin Laden even if he knew his location.
Poop Paul also does not believe in Separation of Church and State and has no problem with Creation making its way back into the Classroom. Poopster also does not believe in Evolution.
Poop Paul getting PWNED here:
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Ron Poop has one of the WORST CONGRESSIONAL VOTING RECORDS when it comes to success rate of getting any of his Legislation passed. This is telling because if President, Congress will just literally tell him to go fuck himself as either side really does not support him and we will have permanent Gridlock as the United States Burns with Ron Paul fiddling on the Truman Balcony.
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I already started on Saturday. Phone calls. A great bunch of Americans to be around. Tomorrow at HQ we are having a debate watching party. Can't wait.
Make sure you bring your lube and towel. You`ll need both of those after you blow your load in the circle jerk of bearded losers.
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Ron Paul on Seperation of Church and State:
"The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers. On the contrary, our Founders' political views were strongly informed by their religious beliefs. Certainly the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government's hostility to religion."
SOURCE: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul148.html
Thomas Jefferson disagrees:
"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law. In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own"
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http://ronpaulsurvivalreport.blogspot.com/2007/12/ron-paul-clarifies-his-positions-on.html
Ron Paul clarifies his positions on Church and State
Ron Paul, has recently solidified his position on the role of religion in government. In case you aren't sure, he's in favor of it. This comes from Kade, a senior member from the Ron Paul Forums, who writes the following:
Official Campaign Message to Facebook Users:
Question: What role should the personal faith of a President play in his/her decision-making?
Ron Paul
Position: It should play a strong role
"Like the Founding Fathers, the core of my political philosophy is grounded in the knowledge that rights come from the Creator, not the government. Since rights do not come from the gov't, the gov't cannot violate those rights. Religion has a very important role to play in a limited gov't philosophy."
Ron Paul's basic point seems to be that the will of God should trump the will of government. The difference is this: We have people who can speak on behalf of government, and who can hold government accountable. Who gets to speak on behalf of God? Who holds God accountable? Jesus? The Pope? Ron Paul himself? I, for one, see absolutely no room for abuse from this guiding ideology.
Kade goes on to say that he has written several candidates about their views on atheists in the government. Barack Obama, John McCain, Dennis Kucinich, and Rudy Giuliani have all sent letters, and Barack Obama even went so far as to send him a personal reply. But no letter from Ron Paul. This should come as no surprise to anyone who read up on Ron Shank's attempt to get an honest response on Ron Paul's views on evolution.
Needless to say, the Ron Paul Internet Gestapo hasn't responded very well to this posting, where you now need to enter a password just to access it. Fortunately, you can still find it on Google Cache, although I have no idea for how long. A screen shot of the posting can be found below.
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http://www.ontheissues.org/ron_paul.htm
Present scientific facts that support creationism. (Sep 2007)
Tax-credited programs for Christian schooling. (Sep 2007)
Supports a Constitutional Amendment for school prayer. (May 1997)
Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Jan 2007)
Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
Abortion is murder. (Apr 2008)
Roe v. Wade decision was harmful to the Constitution. (Apr 2008)
Define life at conception in law, as scientific statement. (Feb 2008)
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Dumbass Poop Paul also thinks that the Church should be a provider of Healthcare and if you can`t afford medical care, you are supposed to beg your neighbors or ask your Church.
He is a disgusting fuckstick.
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Ron Poop has one of the WORST CONGRESSIONAL VOTING RECORDS when it comes to success rate of getting any of his Legislation passed. This is telling because if President, Congress will just literally tell him to go fuck himself as either side really does not support him and we will have permanent Gridlock as the United States Burns with Ron Paul fiddling on the Truman Balcony.
this is good. everytime a congressman passes legislation this country falls more apart
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Poop Paul the loser. Weakest would be Commander In Chief who kowtows to the Muslim world, bootlicking and all. The Piece of Trash known as Poop Paul even said he would not have gone after Bin Laden even if he knew his location.
Poop Paul also does not believe in Separation of Church and State and has no problem with Creation making its way back into the Classroom. Poopster also does not believe in Evolution.
Poop Paul getting PWNED here:
That was not an owning Adam.
Ron Paul a 12 time Congress, Physician, and Presidential Candidate a loser?.....Please tell me exactly what makes him a loser?
Like it's been stated before many times, our POLICIES made by the POLICYMAKERS got us into the shit we are in. Our aggressive "spread democracy" across the world (when we don't even have democracy here) got us into this. Our enemies specifically stated, they wanted to tear America apart because WE OCCUPIED THEIR LAND! Not because of the bullshit talking points you choose to believe which are BASELESS. Based on nothing except for what they believe. Our policies have been very aggresive and if any other country tried to do what we do to other countries, we'd fight back in our own way also...100% truth.
Please give examples of his so called "one of his worst congressional record"...Because Ron Paul is known throughout Congress as having the most consistant voting record EVER....EVER..Being in Congress is not just about pushing SHIT though Adam....It's about pushing the right things through based ONLY ON THE CONSTITUTION and both sides have failed to do so.
Since you're spewing so called facts...Please give explicit example of Ron Paul's non belief in separation of church and state. What a politican religious views are should have no baring on whether or not they are voted for. If the constitution is followed there would be no room for people to push their agendas and the only agenda he's ever pushed is limited taxes, limited fed spending, small government, a less aggressive foreign policy and liberty and freedom of U.S. citizens. His voting records says all this. The others voting record speaks in direct contrast in one way or another.
There are plenty of ways to get around the typical gridlock. and if Ron would be elected, other members of Congress that follow Ron's line of thinking would be elected thus eliminating gridlock.
Not even a nice try Adam, you fail on all fronts..stick your dieting principles and leave the politics to someone else...
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Dumbass Poop Paul also thinks that the Church should be a provider of Healthcare and if you can`t afford medical care, you are supposed to beg your neighbors or ask your Church.
He is a disgusting fuckstick.
Show me where in the Constitution does it say it is the Governments job to give you or anyone else health care. See you operate under the assumption that if it doesn't happen no one will do anything....WRONG
If you're not basing your ideas on the Constitution and the rule of law we have nothing to discuss.
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wtf? how did ronpaul shrink so much
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wtf? how did ronpaul shrink so much
He's 75.
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Our Constitution, Bill of Rights and Amendments should be all that law is based on. Not WE KNOW WHATS BEST FOR YOU ideas...Adam ::)
Try reading them to comprehend sometime.
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I personally was not aware of Ron Paul's stand on religion and state. Thanks for sharing Adam.
Jesus freaks all over the place, geez.
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Dirty Pool Doc...Dont try and make Ron Paul Pat Robertson. You will fail and look really dumb doing it. I suggest you put your breaks on and turn around and leave cause while you and Adam want to argue things that don't matter such as what Ron's ideals are based I'm arguing things that matter. THE ACTUAL ISSUES...You and adam are demagogingand you know damn well you are...
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Dirty Pool Doc...Dont try and make Ron Paul Pat Robertson. You will fail and look really dumb doing it. I suggest you put your breaks on and turn around and leave cause while you and Adam want to argue things that don't matter such as what Ron's ideals are based I'm arguing things that matter. THE ACTUAL ISSUES...You and adam are demagogingand you know damn well you are...
I'll make sure to include you in my prayers, tonight, Wiggs. ;D
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I'll make sure to include you in my prayers, tonight, Wiggs. ;D
Go fuck yourself... :-* :)
I see you're not interested in debating issues just stirring up shit.
And Adam let's here some words directly from Dr. Paul vs. you cutting and pasting slanted articles...
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Go fuck yourself... :-* :)
I see you're not interested in debating issues just stirring up shit.
And Adam let's here some words directly from Dr. Paul vs. you cutting and pasting slanted articles...
So the separation of church and state is not a big deal to you?
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Show me where in the Constitution does it say it is the Governments job to give you or anyone else health care. See you operate under the assumption that if it doesn't happen no one will do anything....WRONG
If you're not basing your ideas on the Constitution and the rule of law we have nothing to discuss.
Show me in the Constitution where it says black people should not be sent back to Africa.
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Show me in the Constitution where it says black people should not be sent back to Africa.
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Where does it say it? I don`t see it. ???
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Show me in the Constitution where it says black people should not be sent back to Africa.
Try reading the Emanicpation Proclamation dipshit...I'm sure you know what it is and hate it. And if you cant get anything from that, you're more of an moron than initially belived.
In addition, Adam, because the founding fathers even acknowledged a creator and the founding fathers believed in a higher power, I assume you have issues with that and thus have a problem with the Consistution based on your line of thinking. ::)
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I don't think I've ever seen ANYone with their head further up their ass than Faux Adonis.
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So the separation of church and state is not a big deal to you?
Try listening to Ron Paul himself vs. listening to what Adam is telling you about him and posting leaning articles...Adam is an athiest and has an agenda. He's shown this in the past....Listen to the man (Ron Paul) himself.
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Adam wants to play politics with me and he'll lose everytime. Why? Because my beliefs are based on the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence and the Amendments to the Consitution.
Adams are based on what he believes is right in his mind and that is what every other politician is doing and why our country is in the situation it's in.
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Try reading the Emanicpation Proclamation dipshit...I'm sure you know what it is and hate it. And if you want get anything from that, you're more of an moron than initially belived.
In addition, Adam, because the founding fathers even acknowledged a creator and the founding fathers believed in a higher power, I assume you have issues with that and thus have a problem with the Consistution based on your line of thinking. ::)
The Emancipation Proclamation has nothing to do with the Constitution.
The Emancipation Proclamation did not even free all of the slaves. It declared free only those slaves living in states not under Union control. William Seward, Lincoln's secretary of state, commented, "We show our symapthy with slavery by emancipating slaves where we cannot reach them and holding them in bondage where we can set them free." Lincoln was fully aware of the irony, but he did not want to antagonize the slave states loyal to the Union by setting their slaves free.
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Try listening to Ron Paul himself vs. listening to what Adam is telling you about him and posting leaning articles...Adam is an athiest and has an agenda. He's shown this in the past....Listen to the man (Ron Paul) himself.
I've watched a lot of videos where he discusses economic and foreign policy and he does make a lot of sense on those talking points, but I was not aware of his stance on church and state. That sort of thinking is dangerous and should not be supported no matter if you're an atheist or a believer.
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Adam wants to play politics with me and he'll lose everytime. Why? Because my beliefs are based on the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence and the Amendments to the Consitution.
Adams are based on what he believes is right in his mind and that is what every other politician is doing and why our country is in the situation it's in.
You know absolutely VERY LITTLE of American History, let alone the Constitution. You don`t even read any books on the matter.
The Proclamation applied only in ten states that were still in rebellion in 1863, thus it did not cover the nearly 500,000 slaves in the slave-holding border states (Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland or Delaware) which were Union states — those slaves were freed by separate state and federal actions. The state of Tennessee had already mostly returned to Union control, so it was not named and was exempted. Virginia was named, but exemptions were specified for the 48 counties then in the process of forming the new state of West Virginia, seven additional Tidewater[clarification needed] counties individually named, and two cities. Also specifically exempted were New Orleans and 13 named parishes of Louisiana, all of which were also already mostly under Federal control at the time of the Proclamation. These exemptions left unemancipated an additional 300,000 slaves.
While the Proclamation had freed most slaves as a war measure, it had not made slavery illegal. Of the states that were exempted from the Proclamation, Maryland,[9] Missouri,[10] and Tennessee[11] prohibited slavery before the war ended; however, in Kentucky, Delaware,[12] and West Virginia slavery continued to be legal[citation needed] until December 18, 1865, when the Thirteenth Amendment went into effect.
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Furthermore, the Emancipation Proclamation did not make slavery illegal at all.
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The Emancipation Proclamation has nothing to do with the Constitution.
The Emancipation Proclamation did not even free all of the slaves. It declared free only those slaves living in states not under Union control. William Seward, Lincoln's secretary of state, commented, "We show our symapthy with slavery by emancipating slaves where we cannot reach them and holding them in bondage where we can set them free." Lincoln was fully aware of the irony, but he did not want to antagonize the slave states loyal to the Union by setting their slaves free.
You're losing the arguement, and veered off to something irrelevant and I'm not going to let you do that. You want to question that? Start another thread I'm sure it'd be a doozy.
No one said anything about the EP being the Consitution. It's another important document in the history of our country. Kind of like Amendments... ::) FAIL again...stay on my point of the thread...I can see right through your bullshit....as usual. I know what you're trying to do. The other documents that are not the Constitution are not in any contrast to the Constitution...Any laws made should be with the Constitution as their base.
I believe I've made my point. ANYTIME you want to argue actual policy issues that have to do with this country...let go...Otherwise don't come at me bro...You're not dealing with Jerome here. You're dealing with MILTON G. WIGGINS III...Come at me bro. :-*
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Maybe Obama can help Wiggs Understand the Emancipation Proclamation.
Start at 1:40
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You're losing the arguement, and veered off to something irrelevant and I'm not going to let you do that. You want to question that? Start another thread I'm sure it'd be a doozy.
No one said anything about the EP being the Consitution. It's another important document in the history of our country. Kind of like Amendments... ::) FAIL again...stay on my point of the thread...I can see right through your bullshit....as usual. I know what you're trying to do. The other documents that are not the Constitution are not in any contrast to the Constitution...Any laws made should be with the Constitution as their base.
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You make absolutely zero sense. All laws made are already governed by the Constitution and checked by the Supreme Court.
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Maybe Obama can help Wiggs Understand the Emancipation Proclamation.
Start at 1:40
LOL!!!!
You do yourself no favors playing clips of who is perhaps the most inept and incompetent jerkoff to ever hold office.
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You make absolutely zero sense. All laws made are already governed by the Constitution and checked by the Supreme Court.
Laws and actions genius...Kinda like the Iraq War, going into Libya, have over 900 bases in 130 countries. Where in the Constitution did it give us authority to have all these bases in these countries? Or go War with Iraq or Attack Libya?
What Law authorizes there to be a central bank or Federal Reserve? The founding fathers argued directly against it. Why is it there? it is the number one reason the country is bankrupt...
Finally where does it say in the Constitution the government has the authority to give our tax dollars to other countries..I.E. ISRAEL for the many years we've been doing it? IT DOES NOT.
I make plenty of sense...pull your head from your ass. ::)
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LOL!!!!
You do yourself no favors playing clips of who is perhaps the most inept and incompetent jerkoff to ever hold office.
Sorry, but thats just not the case. Obama has been absolutely stellar when it comes to foreign policy. This is Poop Paul`s weakest point by far and you have admitted that in the past.
Obama has done a very good job of holding everything together despite the weak Republican Congress that has done nothing but sit on their hands in the hopes of trying to shift the blame of their ineptitude elsewhere.
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Sorry, but thats just not the case. Obama has been absolutely stellar when it comes to foreign policy. This is Poop Paul`s weakest point by far and you have admitted that in the past.
Obama has done a very good job of holding everything together despite the weak Republican Congress that has done nothing but sit on their hands in the hopes of trying to shift the blame of their ineptitude elsewhere.
Wrong! Both sides fail. We have no authority within the Constitution to play world police...By law Every war after WWII shouldn't have happened...Holding everything together? Yeah, that's what people voted for him for was to hold everything together...Dude go back to bed and start this day over cause it's a fail.
Repub and Dem FAIL and FAIL Hard.
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Sorry, but thats just not the case. Obama has been absolutely stellar when it comes to foreign policy. This is Poop Paul`s weakest point by far and you have admitted that in the past.
Obama has done a very good job of holding everything together despite the weak Republican Congress that has done nothing but sit on their hands in the hopes of trying to shift the blame of their ineptitude elsewhere.
A "stellar" foreign policy? The only real "stellar" thing that has happened in the past few years foreign policy-wise was the killing of UBL and a few other terrorists. But to say that that was Obama's accomplishment is just plain stupid. Aside from that, Obama has been too busy delaying trade deals and starting unconstitutional wars.
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Laws and actions genius...Kinda like the Iraq War, going into Libya, have over 900 bases in 130 countries. Where in the Constitution did it give us authority to have all these bases in these countries? Or go War with Iraq or Attack Libya?
What Law authorizes there to be a central bank or Federal Reserve? The founding fathers argued directly against it. Why is it there? it is the number one reason the country is bankrupt...
Finally where does it say in the Constitution the government has the authority to give our tax dollars to other countries..I.E. ISRAEL for the many years we've been doing it? IT DOES NOT.
I make plenty of sense...pull your head from your ass. ::)
Article Two, Section Two
Section 2: Presidential powers
[edit]Clause 1: Command of military; Opinions of cabinet secretaries; Pardons
“ The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment. ”
The President is the military's commander-in-chief; however Article One gives Congress and not the President the authority to declare war. Presidents have often deployed troops with Congressional authorization, but without an explicit declaration of war. According to historian Thomas Woods, "Ever since the Korean War, Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution — which refers to the president as the 'Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States' — has been interpreted to mean that the president may act with an essentially free hand in foreign affairs, or at the very least that he may send men into battle without consulting Congress."[5] Since World War II, every major military action has been technically a U.S. military operation or a U.N. "police action", which are deemed legally legitimate by Congress, and various United Nations Resolutions because of decisions such as the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, Authorization for Use of Force.[citation needed] This clause is included because it gives the President power over the troops, and under one commander, the military is bound to be more organized and efficient.
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Sorry, but thats just not the case. Obama has been absolutely stellar when it comes to foreign policy. This is Poop Paul`s weakest point by far and you have admitted that in the past.
Obama has done a very good job of holding everything together despite the weak Republican Congress that has done nothing but sit on their hands in the hopes of trying to shift the blame of their ineptitude elsewhere.
If obama wants a war with Iran -are you willing to go die for him?
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Adam
THE U.S. CONSTITUTION
READ AND COMPREHEND IT.
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Laws and actions genius...Kinda like the Iraq War, going into Libya, have over 900 bases in 130 countries. Where in the Constitution did it give us authority to have all these bases in these countries? Or go War with Iraq or Attack Libya?
What Law authorizes there to be a central bank or Federal Reserve? The founding fathers argued directly against it. Why is it there? it is the number one reason the country is bankrupt...
Finally where does it say in the Constitution the government has the authority to give our tax dollars to other countries..I.E. ISRAEL for the many years we've been doing it? IT DOES NOT.
I make plenty of sense...pull your head from your ass. ::)
Founding Fathers did many Unconstitutional things. One of the biggest being Thomas Jefferson`s Louisiana Purchase. He knew it was totally Unconstitutional yet went ahead with it. It was one of the things he had a hard time with and was embarrassed by it and he purposely left it off the epitaph of his grave because he was ashamed at subverting the Constitution in such a blatant way.
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I'll address your point but first the U.N. We shouldn't be in it because it conflicts with our sovernity. And back to your point, deploying troops to other countries and starting wars is two different things. Presidents have taken that power and perverted it for their agendas...This is both sides. Dem and Repub.
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Adam
THE U.S. CONSTITUTION
READ AND COMPREHEND IT.
Look, I can tell by your posts that all of this is new to you and you have just a limited amount of American Historical knowledge. My advice is to keep reading or start reading if you haven`t.
Poop Paul is not going to save you and he is an absolutely horrid choice for anything other than what he does now, which is virtually nothing.
He has zero support in Congress so his agenda would be nothing but an Epic Fail. If he decided to veto everything Congress passes, they will just undermine him and override his veto.
He would be worthless. A complete joke of ineptitude, which he has been his whole career as a career politician.
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Founding Fathers did many Unconstitutional things. One of the biggest being Thomas Jefferson`s Louisiana Purchase. He knew it was totally Unconstitutional yet went ahead with it. It was one of the things he had a hard time with and was embarrassed by it and he purposely left it off the epitaph of his grave because he was ashamed at subverting the Constitution in such a blatant way.
Is that your reasoning. If they did it everyone else can?
You said alot without addressing any of my points. Congratulations.
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Look, I can tell by your posts that all of this is new to you and you have just a limited amount of American Historical knowledge. My advice is to keep reading or start reading if you haven`t.
Poop Paul is not going to save you and he is an absolutely horrid choice for anything other than what he does now, which is virtually nothing.
He has zero support in Congress so his agenda would be nothing but an Epic Fail. If he decided to veto everything Congress passes, they will just undermine him and override his veto.
He would be worthless. A complete joke of ineptitude, which he has been his whole career as a career politician.
So you want someone who will cheer Congress as it expands spending, raises taxes, increases the debt, and leads this country to its inevitable destruction?
At the very least a President Paul would be able to significantly cut spending, deficits, and taxes.
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Say what you will about Adam, but the man definitely has a passion for seeking out knowledge.
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He's 75.
i know how old he is but it looks like he's 5'9 now and he used to be what 6'1?
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Look, I can tell by your posts that all of this is new to you and you have just a limited amount of American Historical knowledge. My advice is to keep reading or start reading if you haven`t.
Poop Paul is not going to save you and he is an absolutely horrid choice for anything other than what he does now, which is virtually nothing.
He has zero support in Congress so his agenda would be nothing but an Epic Fail. If he decided to veto everything Congress passes, they will just undermine him and override his veto.
He would be worthless. A complete joke of ineptitude, which he has been his whole career as a career politician.
Limited amount of historical knowledge huh? Do you even have a single college degree?
I do....3. History books, economic history books, political science. This is where I get my knowledge.
Where do you get yours?
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Say what you will about Adam, but the man definitely has a passion for seeking out knowledge.
You can say the same about Hitler. ::)
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So you want someone who will cheer Congress as it expands spending, raises taxes, increases the debt, and leads this country to its inevitable destruction?
At the very least a President Paul would be able to significantly cut spending, deficits, and taxes.
Paul would not be able to do anything. Congress would easily override him. AGAIN, HE HAS ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUPPORT FROM ANYONE IN CONGRESS, THEREFORE HE IS COMPLETELY POWERLESS.
He would not be able to accomplish a single one of his bat-shit ideas. Not a one.
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If obama wants a war with Iran -are you willing to go die for him?
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Paul would not be able to do anything. Congress would easily override him. AGAIN, HE HAS ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUPPORT FROM ANYONE IN CONGRESS, THEREFORE HE IS COMPLETELY POWERLESS.
He would not be able to accomplish a single one of his bat-shit ideas. Not a one.
Refer to my earlier post on another page about him being gridlocked...Once it is known that these politicans are trying to keep the old way going...they'll be voted out quicker than they came in...Big change happens in steps adam. You're failing to see that.
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Obama does not want a war. If there is a war, we have a more than capable military that people volunteer for. I am not in the military, but I have no problem whatsoever it being used for its intended purpose.
Do you want a military that is just paid to party, free healthcare, free room and board, free facilities to use and in turn they do absolutely NOTHING for it?
They do have a purpose you know.
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obama isn't going to invade iran, no one is going to invade iran lol. syria is next after libya, but these are cia wars not the traditional kind and that's why everyone was pissed off with GW bush because he wasn't supposed to use the army but rather rely on cia subversion
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You can say the same about Hitler. ::)
No, you can not. Hitler was very ignorant on a lot of issues.
Very smooth of you to imply that Adam in the defense of your constitution deserves to be compared to Hitler. Epic fucking dumbass.
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He wouldn't lift a finger. What has he done for this country? Nothing.
He would never join a military...He might support it but he'd never join. he'd rather the others do the fighting and he benefit from it.
It's his right to do so but he's a bump on a log nothing more.
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Refer to my earlier post on another page about him being gridlocked...Once it is known that these politicans are trying to keep the old way going...they'll be voted out quicker than they came in...Big change happens in steps adam. You're failing to see that.
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Total Nonsense. The American public Writ-Large for one does not pay any attention to the intricacies of political infighting let alone legislation being brought to the floor. Furthermore, the American Public is NOT supportive of Ron Poop as a majority at all. Poop is a minority candidate for minority fringe stupid people who think there is a giant conspiracy to everything.
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Obama does not want a war. If there is a war, we have a more than capable military that people volunteer for. I am not in the military, but I have no problem whatsoever it being used for its intended purpose.
Do you want a military that is just paid to party, free healthcare, free room and board, free facilities to use and in turn they do absolutely NOTHING for it?
They do have a purpose you know.
our military is actually extremely incompetent as well as corrupt. the equipment that is created by the military industrial complex is mostly all faulty and worthless, no one in the DoD even wants it but it's all political and the wars have stopped being about anything meaningful and just serving as an excuse to steal from the usa treasury.
we just win wars because it's a single tiny 3rd world country getting 50,000 billion dollars worth of bombs dropped on their infrastructure.
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obama isn't going to invade iran, no one is going to invade iran lol. syria is next after libya, but these are cia wars not the traditional kind and that's why everyone was pissed off with GW bush because he wasn't supposed to use the army but rather rely on cia subversion
(http://nation.com.pk/uploads/news_image/large/RussianwarshipsenterSyrianwaterstopreventNATOattackreport_35917.jpg)
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Obama does not want a war. If there is a war, we have a more than capable military that people volunteer for. I am not in the military, but I have no problem whatsoever it being used for its intended purpose.
Do you want a military that is just paid to party, free healthcare, free room and board, free facilities to use and in turn they do absolutely NOTHING for it?
They do have a purpose you know.
Yes it's do defend the country. Not fight in preemptive wars...If need be the military can be down sized it happens all the time with excess...It's not Obama's business (or any other President) to decide who can and cannot have the bomb...If we werent in the bed with Isreal this wouldn't be a problem but we are and it is.
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Paul would not be able to do anything. Congress would easily override him. AGAIN, HE HAS ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUPPORT FROM ANYONE IN CONGRESS, THEREFORE HE IS COMPLETELY POWERLESS.
He would not be able to accomplish a single one of his bat-shit ideas. Not a one.
Uhmmm, hello? Do you simply not understand the power that the President holds? Sure, he wouldn't be able to FULLY implement any of the policies he wants. But he most certainly would be able to greatly INFLUENCE the course of government. That veto power counts for SOMETHING. Just by using the bully pulpit he could greatly influence the direction of the Republican Party.
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He wouldn't lift a finger. What has he done for this country? Nothing.
He would never join a military...He might support it but he'd never join. he'd rather the others do the fighting and he benefit from it.
It's his right to do so but he's a bump on a log nothing more.
The majority of the people in the United States are not in the Military nor will they ever join it. Are you calling for a military state of some sort, where only those in the military have a say and do on the lives of the majority? There are plenty of countries in Africa that have various forms of a military-warlord rule that you can go to you know if this is what you support.
What have you done for your country, other than being nothing but a leech, first with the military (abusing all of the benefits that husbands and wives get), then with the unemployment program.
Now you are on this Ron Poop nonsense. Whats next, a trip to StormFront.org and gallons of skin bleach?
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(http://nation.com.pk/uploads/news_image/large/RussianwarshipsenterSyrianwaterstopreventNATOattackreport_35917.jpg)
yes, the navy is a prime example. 90% of the ships are rusted out and barely able to stay afloat. on top of that they are all old as hell. the us military is just a giant subsidy for the military contractors, and nothing more. war is merely the largest profit producing resource on this planet and always has been.
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Yes it's do defend the country. Not fight in preemptive wars...If need be the military can be down sized it happens all the time with excess...It's not Obama's business (or any other President) to decide who can and cannot have the bomb...If we werent in the bed with Isreal this wouldn't be a problem but we are and it is.
Yes, lets just actively sit by and let the Muslim lunatics acquire Nuclear material, and watch them build up a Nuclear arsenal. ::)
Do you not understand what the Caliphate is and why Muslims seek Nuclear Weapons and the like to restore it?
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yes, the navy is a prime example. 90% of the ships are rusted out and barely able to stay afloat. on top of that they are all old as hell. the us military is just a giant subsidy for the military contractors, and nothing more. war is merely the largest profit producing resource on this planet and always has been.
Thats a Russian war ship in Syrian waters
http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/International/19-Nov-2011/Russian-warships-enter-Syrian-waters-to-prevent-NATO-attack-report (http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/International/19-Nov-2011/Russian-warships-enter-Syrian-waters-to-prevent-NATO-attack-report)
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Yes, lets just actively sit by and let the Muslim lunatics acquire Nuclear material, and watch them build up a Nuclear arsenal. ::)
Do you not understand what the Caliphate is and why Muslims seek Nuclear Weapons and the like to restore it?
hhhmmm - last I know obama was warning israel not to do anything about that.
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Uhmmm, hello? Do you simply not understand the power that the President holds? Sure, he wouldn't be able to FULLY implement any of the policies he wants. But he most certainly would be able to greatly INFLUENCE the course of government. That veto power counts for SOMETHING. Just by using the bully pulpit he could greatly influence the direction of the Republican Party.
Wrong and Wrong.
An non supportive Congress can easily override a President`s veto, especially when the President is as foolish as Poop Paul. There is not a single Policy that Poop Paul could implement. The Executive Branch is not really strong in the first place.
He has had the "bully pulpit" for decades and guess what, he has FAILED to do anything with it and has FAILED to influence anyone in Congress or any President for that matter.
He has been an Epic Fail for decades.
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The majority of the people in the United States are not in the Military nor will they ever join it. Are you calling for a military state of some sort, where only those in the military have a say and do on the lives of the majority? There are plenty of countries in Africa that have various forms of a military-warlord rule that you can go to you know if this is what you support.
What have you done for your country, other than being nothing but a leech, first with the military (abusing all of the benefits that husbands and wives get), then with the unemployment program.
Now you are on this Ron Poop nonsense. Whats next, a trip to StormFront.org and gallons of skin bleach?
No, I'm talking to you. Adam Ables...Nice try...No one said anything about military rule. After all I've said today and my thinking on law based on the Constiution, how'd you get out of that, that I'd favor military rule? You're reaching for things that aren't there.
So with your line of thinking, anyone who joins the military is a leach and abuses it for benefits...Or is it just me?
::)
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Thats a Russian war ship in Syrian waters
http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/International/19-Nov-2011/Russian-warships-enter-Syrian-waters-to-prevent-NATO-attack-report (http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/International/19-Nov-2011/Russian-warships-enter-Syrian-waters-to-prevent-NATO-attack-report)
HAHHAH you just PWNED the shit out of him with that. I like this thread. PWNINGS left and right!
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Thats a Russian war ship in Syrian waters
http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/International/19-Nov-2011/Russian-warships-enter-Syrian-waters-to-prevent-NATO-attack-report (http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/International/19-Nov-2011/Russian-warships-enter-Syrian-waters-to-prevent-NATO-attack-report)
oh word. well, any country in the middleeast that isn't falling in line is going to get hit eventually. iran is last on the list even though the west wants them real bad, it's strategically impossible for an invasion to work. instead they are just doing the cia type of black-ops shit, with that stupid green revolution awhile back and what not. wouldn't be surprised if they started dropping bombs all over syria though
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Yes, lets just actively sit by and let the Muslim lunatics acquire Nuclear material, and watch them build up a Nuclear arsenal. ::)
Do you not understand what the Caliphate is and why Muslims seek Nuclear Weapons and the like to restore it?
Iran hasnt attacked anyone is 200 years dummy.
If Israel needs to defend itself it has 200 nukes to Irans ZERO.'
How's that for common sense moron.
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HAHHAH you just PWNED the shit out of him with that. I like this thread. PWNINGS left and right!
are you being serious or are you that illiterate lol
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No, I'm talking to you. Adam Ables...Nice try...No one said anything about military rule. After all I've said today and my thinking on law based on the Constiution, how'd you get out of that, that I'd favor military rule? You're reaching for things that aren't there.
So with your line of thinking, anyone who joins the military is a leach and abuses it for benefits...Or is it just me?
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Just you. :-*
Although, I do have many friends who are military leeches and they have no problem admitting it either.
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Just you. :-*
Although, I do have many friends who are military leeches and they have no problem admitting it either.
Just me huh ;D ::)
I'm going to do volunteer work now...ta ta. :-*
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Iran hasnt attacked anyone is 200 years dummy.
If Israel needs to defend itself it has 200 nukes to Irans ZERO.'
How's that for common sense moron.
iran getting nuclear power is more dangerous for the west than iran getting nukes, because no one in the west thinks iran will ever use nukes. nukes are merely an invasion deterrent, no one will actually use them offensively because that means total and utter nuclear retaliation, bad news for whoever is on the receiving end of usa + europe's total nuclear arsenal. right now, iran is importing more energy than it exports, if it gets an operational nuclear powerplant then it will be less reliant on the west, which right now has a certain level of control over iran via iran being dependent on imports.
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I already started on Saturday. Phone calls. A great bunch of Americans to be around. Tomorrow at HQ we are having a debate watching party. Can't wait.
Shouldn't you spend that time looking for a job?
Good job on the Ron Paul support, though.
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Wrong and Wrong.
An non supportive Congress can easily override a President`s veto, especially when the President is as foolish as Poop Paul. There is not a single Policy that Poop Paul could implement. The Executive Branch is not really strong in the first place.
He has had the "bully pulpit" for decades and guess what, he has FAILED to do anything with it and has FAILED to influence anyone in Congress or any President for that matter.
He has been an Epic Fail for decades.
You're clearly an idiot.
First of all, Ron Paul has not had the bully pulpit. That is a term reserved for the POTUS.
Secondly, Ron Paul's plan isn't to implement policies as much as to scale other policies back. The President can do this on his own in certain cases (e.g. checking the expansion of the regulatory state), and in others, his veto power can have dramatic effects. Requiring 2/3s of Congress to agree on anything is extraordinary, ESPECIALLY when it comes to budgets. In order to override his veto, Congress would have to enact budgets that still significantly cut spending across the board. Either that, or they'd have to raise taxes, thereby committing political suicide (for the GOP). This would pave the way for much more consistent deficit hawks and pro growthers in the Congress, which would in return help Paul's cause.
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I'm so fucking sick of this partisan bullshit.
Ron paul is a solid dude because he's simply not corrupted atleast not yet.
Seriously whether or not your right wing or left wing, we need corruption right now like we need more public debt.
Doctors, lawyers, and regular joe's can't bold face lie on the job why the fuck is it acceptable for politicians ???
Regardless of party it's pretty consistent what needs to be done, we need to cut spending and raise taxes, there's not much of a way around that awful truth. We need less military, and we need lobby groups to stay the fuck outside of our government. We need a plug on student debt, And we need to quickly get on board with green energy production.
If we wanna compete with asia we need a business environment that is low on corruption the best place to start is on capital hill.
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public debt is a misnomer because it's actually debt owned by the government that is largely owed back to investors inside of america and its debt denominated in usa currency which means it's meaningless.
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If there is such footage, I'd like to see or hear it.
This man is the American Ideal and pure genius.
Ron paul doesent get owned in debates.he thinks and speaks outside the neo-con craptrap.
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http://ronpaulexposed.wordpress.com/
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If there is such footage, I'd like to see or hear it.
This man is the American Ideal and pure genius.
for once we agree, seems like a man of ideals and great ideas, i wish he could raise the 500-700 million it takes these days to get into the White House.
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Dumbass Poop Paul also thinks that the Church should be a provider of Healthcare and if you can`t afford medical care, you are supposed to beg your neighbors or ask your Church.
He is a disgusting fuckstick.
You're a very intelligent man, but every bad point you make about Ron Paul is actually a good point in my book.
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Gingrish on the other hand...
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Ron Paul will never move forward as long as corporate media and their friends have anything to do with it..
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The way Ron Paul has talked trash about the CIA for many years now shows me that he is some kind of COINTELPRO for the CIA. Ron Paul is helping the CIA bring from the shadows thousands of people who may be against their agenda. This guy would have had poison put in his geritol years ago if he wasn't some kind of asset to someone.
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did he really write all of those news letters?
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things will never change as long as people continue to vote in Democrats and Republicans who are merely CFR puppets. Ron Paul doesnt have a shot in hell with the brainwashed American people
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Some things I agree with him on but he sounds like a wack job on a lot of things that he says....in that sense he just owns himself.
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iran getting nuclear power is more dangerous for the west than iran getting nukes, because no one in the west thinks iran will ever use nukes. nukes are merely an invasion deterrent, no one will actually use them offensively because that means total and utter nuclear retaliation, bad news for whoever is on the receiving end of usa + europe's total nuclear arsenal. right now, iran is importing more energy than it exports, if it gets an operational nuclear powerplant then it will be less reliant on the west, which right now has a certain level of control over iran via iran being dependent on imports.
Iran = Cold War Russia
Yeah, let's waste time and money trying to prevent another unnecessary nuclear arms race.