I don't believe I've ever seen or heard of Ron Paul getting owned in a debate.

[Wiggs]

Adam

THE U.S. CONSTITUTION


READ AND COMPREHEND IT.

[The True Adonis]

Laws and actions genius...Kinda like the Iraq War, going into Libya, have over 900 bases in 130 countries. Where in the Constitution did it give us authority to  have all these bases in these countries? Or go War with Iraq or Attack Libya?

What Law authorizes there to be a central bank or Federal Reserve?  The founding fathers argued directly against it.  Why is it there?  it is the number one reason the country is bankrupt...

Finally where does it say in the Constitution the government has the authority to give our tax dollars to other countries..I.E. ISRAEL for the many years we've been doing it?  IT DOES NOT.

I make plenty of sense...pull your head from your ass.

Founding Fathers did many Unconstitutional things.  One of the biggest being Thomas Jefferson`s Louisiana Purchase.  He knew it was totally Unconstitutional yet went ahead with it.  It was one of the things he had a hard time with and was embarrassed by it and he purposely left it off the epitaph of his grave because he was ashamed at subverting the Constitution in such a blatant way.

[Wiggs]

I'll address your point but first the U.N. We shouldn't be in it because it conflicts with our sovernity. And back to your point, deploying troops to other countries and starting wars is two different things.  Presidents have taken that power and perverted it for their agendas...This is both sides. Dem and Repub. 

[The True Adonis]

Adam

THE U.S. CONSTITUTION


READ AND COMPREHEND IT.

Look, I can tell by your posts that all of this is new to you and you have just a limited amount of American Historical knowledge.  My advice is to keep reading or start reading if you haven`t.

Poop Paul is not going to save you and he is an absolutely horrid choice for anything other than what he does now, which is virtually nothing.

He has zero support in Congress so his agenda would be nothing but an Epic Fail.  If he decided to veto everything Congress passes, they will just undermine him and override his veto.

He would be worthless.  A complete joke of ineptitude, which he has been his whole career as a career politician.

[Wiggs]

Founding Fathers did many Unconstitutional things.  One of the biggest being Thomas Jefferson`s Louisiana Purchase.  He knew it was totally Unconstitutional yet went ahead with it.  It was one of the things he had a hard time with and was embarrassed by it and he purposely left it off the epitaph of his grave because he was ashamed at subverting the Constitution in such a blatant way.

Is that your reasoning. If they did it everyone else can? 
You said alot without addressing any of my points. Congratulations.

[howardroark]

Look, I can tell by your posts that all of this is new to you and you have just a limited amount of American Historical knowledge.  My advice is to keep reading or start reading if you haven`t.

Poop Paul is not going to save you and he is an absolutely horrid choice for anything other than what he does now, which is virtually nothing.

He has zero support in Congress so his agenda would be nothing but an Epic Fail.  If he decided to veto everything Congress passes, they will just undermine him and override his veto.

He would be worthless.  A complete joke of ineptitude, which he has been his whole career as a career politician.

So you want someone who will cheer Congress as it expands spending, raises taxes, increases the debt, and leads this country to its inevitable destruction?

At the very least a President Paul would be able to significantly cut spending, deficits, and taxes.

[lovemonkey]

Say what you will about Adam, but the man definitely has a passion for seeking out knowledge.

[aesthetics]

He's 75.

i know how old he is but it looks like he's 5'9 now and he used to be what 6'1?

[Wiggs]

Look, I can tell by your posts that all of this is new to you and you have just a limited amount of American Historical knowledge.  My advice is to keep reading or start reading if you haven`t.

Poop Paul is not going to save you and he is an absolutely horrid choice for anything other than what he does now, which is virtually nothing.

He has zero support in Congress so his agenda would be nothing but an Epic Fail.  If he decided to veto everything Congress passes, they will just undermine him and override his veto.

He would be worthless.  A complete joke of ineptitude, which he has been his whole career as a career politician.

Limited amount of historical knowledge huh?  Do you even have a single college degree?
I do....3. History books, economic history books, political science. This is where I get my knowledge. 
Where do you get yours?

[Wiggs]

Say what you will about Adam, but the man definitely has a passion for seeking out knowledge.

You can say the same about Hitler.

[The True Adonis]

So you want someone who will cheer Congress as it expands spending, raises taxes, increases the debt, and leads this country to its inevitable destruction?

At the very least a President Paul would be able to significantly cut spending, deficits, and taxes.

Paul would not be able to do anything.  Congress would easily override him.  AGAIN, HE HAS ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUPPORT FROM ANYONE IN CONGRESS, THEREFORE HE IS COMPLETELY POWERLESS.

He would not be able to accomplish a single one of his bat-shit ideas.  Not a one.

[Soul Crusher]

If obama wants a war with Iran -are you willing to go die for him? 

BUMP 

[Wiggs]

Paul would not be able to do anything.  Congress would easily override him.  AGAIN, HE HAS ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUPPORT FROM ANYONE IN CONGRESS, THEREFORE HE IS COMPLETELY POWERLESS.

He would not be able to accomplish a single one of his bat-shit ideas.  Not a one.

Refer to my earlier post on another page about him being gridlocked...Once it is known that these politicans are trying to keep the old way going...they'll be voted out quicker than they came in...Big change happens in steps adam. You're failing to see that.

[The True Adonis]

BUMP 

Obama does not want a war.  If there is a war, we have a more than capable military that people volunteer for.  I am not in the military, but I have no problem whatsoever it being used for its intended purpose.

Do you want a military that is just paid to party, free healthcare, free room and board, free facilities to use and in turn they do absolutely NOTHING for it?

They do have a purpose you know.

[aesthetics]

obama isn't going to invade iran, no one is going to invade iran lol. syria is next after libya, but these are cia wars not the traditional kind and that's why everyone was pissed off with GW bush because he wasn't supposed to use the army but rather rely on cia subversion

[lovemonkey]

You can say the same about Hitler.

No, you can not. Hitler was very ignorant on a lot of issues.

Very smooth of you to imply that Adam in the defense of your constitution deserves to be compared to Hitler. Epic fucking dumbass.

[Wiggs]

BUMP 

He wouldn't lift a finger. What has he done for this country?  Nothing.
He would never join a military...He might support it but he'd never join. he'd rather the others do the fighting and he benefit from it.
It's his right to do so but he's a bump on a log nothing more.

[The True Adonis]

Refer to my earlier post on another page about him being gridlocked...Once it is known that these politicans are trying to keep the old way going...they'll be voted out quicker than they came in...Big change happens in steps adam. You're failing to see that.

Total Nonsense.  The American public Writ-Large for one does not pay any attention to the intricacies of political infighting let alone legislation being brought to the floor.  Furthermore, the American Public is NOT supportive of Ron Poop as a majority at all.  Poop is a minority candidate for minority fringe stupid people who think there is a giant conspiracy to everything.  

[aesthetics]

Obama does not want a war.  If there is a war, we have a more than capable military that people volunteer for.  I am not in the military, but I have no problem whatsoever it being used for its intended purpose.

Do you want a military that is just paid to party, free healthcare, free room and board, free facilities to use and in turn they do absolutely NOTHING for it?

They do have a purpose you know.

our military is actually extremely incompetent as well as corrupt. the equipment that is created by the military industrial complex is mostly all faulty and worthless, no one in the DoD even wants it but it's all political and the wars have stopped being about anything meaningful and just serving as an excuse to steal from the usa treasury.

we just win wars because it's a single tiny 3rd world country getting 50,000 billion dollars worth of bombs dropped on their infrastructure.

[Xerxes]

obama isn't going to invade iran, no one is going to invade iran lol. syria is next after libya, but these are cia wars not the traditional kind and that's why everyone was pissed off with GW bush because he wasn't supposed to use the army but rather rely on cia subversion

[Wiggs]

Obama does not want a war.  If there is a war, we have a more than capable military that people volunteer for.  I am not in the military, but I have no problem whatsoever it being used for its intended purpose.

Do you want a military that is just paid to party, free healthcare, free room and board, free facilities to use and in turn they do absolutely NOTHING for it?

They do have a purpose you know.

Yes it's do defend the country. Not fight in preemptive wars...If need be the military can be down sized it happens all the time with excess...It's not Obama's business (or any other President) to decide who can and cannot have the bomb...If we werent in the bed with Isreal this wouldn't be a problem but we are and it is.

[howardroark]

Paul would not be able to do anything.  Congress would easily override him.  AGAIN, HE HAS ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUPPORT FROM ANYONE IN CONGRESS, THEREFORE HE IS COMPLETELY POWERLESS.

He would not be able to accomplish a single one of his bat-shit ideas.  Not a one.

Uhmmm, hello? Do you simply not understand the power that the President holds? Sure, he wouldn't be able to FULLY implement any of the policies he wants. But he most certainly would be able to greatly INFLUENCE the course of government. That veto power counts for SOMETHING. Just by using the bully pulpit he could greatly influence the direction of the Republican Party.

[The True Adonis]

He wouldn't lift a finger. What has he done for this country?  Nothing.
He would never join a military...He might support it but he'd never join. he'd rather the others do the fighting and he benefit from it.
It's his right to do so but he's a bump on a log nothing more.

The majority of the people in the United States are not in the Military nor will they ever join it.  Are you calling for a military state of some sort, where only those in the military have a say and do on the lives of the majority?  There are plenty of countries in Africa that have various forms of a military-warlord rule that you can go to you know if this is what you support.


What have you done for your country, other than being nothing but a leech, first with the military (abusing all of the benefits that husbands and wives get), then with the unemployment program.

Now you are on this Ron Poop nonsense.  Whats next, a trip to StormFront.org and gallons of skin bleach?

[aesthetics]

yes, the navy is a prime example. 90% of the ships are rusted out and barely able to stay afloat. on top of that they are all old as hell. the us military is just a giant subsidy for the military contractors, and nothing more. war is merely the largest profit producing resource on this planet and always has been.

[The True Adonis]

Yes it's do defend the country. Not fight in preemptive wars...If need be the military can be down sized it happens all the time with excess...It's not Obama's business (or any other President) to decide who can and cannot have the bomb...If we werent in the bed with Isreal this wouldn't be a problem but we are and it is.

Yes, lets just actively sit by and let the Muslim lunatics acquire Nuclear material, and watch them build up a Nuclear arsenal.  

Do you not understand what the Caliphate is and why Muslims seek Nuclear Weapons and the like to restore it?