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K so does anyone here have any real experience with getting a sperm test done while on a gram of test or so for several months my wife thinks im the reason she hasnt gotten pregnant yet and wants me to get a sperm test done im hoping it comes out fine but not sure what to expect will get it done probably in a few days. when i google it i get a bunch of articles from non-bodybuilding sites saying how yeah steroids will reduce your sperm count significantly but wondering or hoping that some guys here have had some experience and can suggest otherwise thanks in advance
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K so does anyone here have any real experience with getting a sperm test done while on a gram of test or so for several months my wife thinks im the reason she hasnt gotten pregnant yet and wants me to get a sperm test done im hoping it comes out fine but not sure what to expect will get it done probably in a few days. when i google it i get a bunch of articles from non-bodybuilding sites saying how yeah steroids will reduce your sperm count significantly but wondering or hoping that some guys here have had some experience and can suggest otherwise thanks in advance
said his sperm count was zero
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K so does anyone here have any real experience with getting a sperm test done while on a gram of test or so for several months my wife thinks im the reason she hasnt gotten pregnant yet and wants me to get a sperm test done im hoping it comes out fine but not sure what to expect will get it done probably in a few days. when i google it i get a bunch of articles from non-bodybuilding sites saying how yeah steroids will reduce your sperm count significantly but wondering or hoping that some guys here have had some experience and can suggest otherwise thanks in advance
what mean she want to get pregnent? lol SHE wantr to get pregnent,,americano female lol tell her you dont want to do sperm nothing and if she talk too much you will fuck her best friend,, she wil shut up right after,, actualy talk about her weight she wont talk much after
2 way to bring female to not talk much
way 1,, talk abotu fat and she is little heavy
way 2 ,, talk abotu whores ,, lot of the word whore should be there,,
it only work with americano girls ,, so make sure its americana lol
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what mean she want to get pregnent? lol SHE wantr to get pregnent,,americano female lol tell her you dont want to do sperm nothing and if she talk too much you will fuck her best friend,, she wil shut up right after,, actualy talk about her weight she wont talk much after
2 way to bring female to not talk much
way 1,, talk abotu fat and she is little heavy
way 2 ,, talk abotu whores ,, lot of the word whore should be there,,
it only work with americano girls ,, so make sure its americana lol
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A little on the mean side gh15. It's his wife....she wants to have a baby with him. I would suggest that he tells her he doesn't want to get a sperm test done until he has been off the gear for a while. No point in getting it done when he knows it will be on the low side. That's just a waste of time.
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K so does anyone here have any real experience with getting a sperm test done while on a gram of test or so for several months my wife thinks im the reason she hasnt gotten pregnant yet and wants me to get a sperm test done im hoping it comes out fine but not sure what to expect will get it done probably in a few days. when i google it i get a bunch of articles from non-bodybuilding sites saying how yeah steroids will reduce your sperm count significantly but wondering or hoping that some guys here have had some experience and can suggest otherwise thanks in advance
and if sperm count is low she'll leave you bro', because "of al the drug you took"
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A dude I know had sp.c. results low from the cold water diving he used to do, so on a gram of test your count will be close to zero lol.. Nice birth control (but don't rely on it too much. My friend got his wife pregnant while on a heavy cycle..).
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what mean she want to get pregnent? lol SHE wantr to get pregnent,,americano female lol tell her you dont want to do sperm nothing and if she talk too much you will fuck her best friend,, she wil shut up right after,, actualy talk about her weight she wont talk much after
2 way to bring female to not talk much
way 1,, talk abotu fat and she is little heavy
way 2 ,, talk abotu whores ,, lot of the word whore should be there,,
it only work with americano girls ,, so make sure its americana lol
gh15 approved
u could b a really jerk some time.i was expecting a better answer.guy is looking for some help.
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u could b a really jerk some time.i was expecting a better answer.guy is looking for some help.
Shut up, gh15 is right, guy shouldn't be such a pussy, too many pussy whipped homo's around these days
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it not jerk,, its reality,, who hs she to comend him ,, she know he is bodybuild ,, she know he is on hormones,, hwen someone want kid they want kid together....this is not disctatorship,,she should solve problem with him together,, and if he has low sperm doctor will put him on hcg and sprm go up,, usualy it is female problem when cant get prego,, can alwys adopt,,
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A real mans dinner right there, damn im hungry :P
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low count is ok as long as it's not ZERO....you only need 1 sperm to fertilize the egg,not millions...
hope this helps ;D ;D
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diaper rash spotted ???
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Shut up, gh15 is right, guy shouldn't be such a pussy, too many pussy whipped homo's around these days
x2. Just tell your wife to STFU and mind her own business.
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x2. Just tell your wife to STFU and mind her own business.
Yes, a cock in the mouth usually helps
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Yes, a cock in the mouth usually helps
Yep, or put it in her ass, she will hardly be able to argue with you when she is screaming.
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Yep, or put it in her ass, she will hardly be able to argue with you when she is screaming.
Once done with the ass put it back I'm the mouth, that will learn them
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^^ very good suggestions above, give her a good hard fuck without saying anything bend her over and fuck hard right after she comes back from work. Looks like you lost your path and sense of a what a true man should be. After done with the fuck go for a long walk and think about what do you want from this life. Find your "mission" and pursue it, then your woman will be happy.
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A dude I know had sp.c. results low from the cold water diving he used to do, so on a gram of test your count will be close to zero lol.. Nice birth control (but don't rely on it too much. My friend got his wife pregnant while on a heavy cycle..).
Did you tell him you're the real father yet?
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Did you tell him you're the real father yet?
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Your wife is well aware of my sperm count already.
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yes you should be worried. I had one done and the chance of pregnacy was extremely low if at all. You wont know for sure until you get tested though!
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Nothing to worry about. You won't even need HCG. Unless you try for a year, don't bother the doctor.
I just went to get a sperm count and I brought my sample to the wrong lab in town because of a dumb nurse. I was so pissed off, standing with a jar of my fucking jizz and being told I've got to do that again and go somewhere else. Fuck!
Found out my wife has a sealed fallopian tube but not sure how fertile our infertile I am. Going for another count maybe but started on done HCG. Remind your wife that unless it's been a year of unprotected sex then she's being a douche.
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some can have baby on , and some cant , i cant , even 3 months off max out pct , i cant
i had sex with my girlfriend a 1000 times , still nothing ,
planning tren for 6 months so wont happen either
good luck
i say go off n stack proviron clomid hcg hmg
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trap 2 looks inviting..
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If you were on 1 gram of test for months the sperm count must be very bad.
If you want to get your wife pregnant start using pregnyl1500 every 3-4 days for 2-3 weeks. Your testicles will get bigger. Throw some nolvadex at 10mg every day.
Once you start the pregnyl stop all kind of steroid use.
At the last shot of pregnyl start with clomid therapy, 50mg a day for another 2-3 weeks. Stop the nolva.
An then pray allot.
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That is a delicious looking vagina....
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If you were on 1 gram of test for months the sperm count must be very bad.
If you want to get your wife pregnant start using pregnyl1500 every 3-4 days for 2-3 weeks. Your testicles will get bigger. Throw some nolvadex at 10mg every day.
Once you start the pregnyl stop all kind of steroid use.
At the last shot of pregnyl start with clomid therapy, 50mg a day for another 2-3 weeks. Stop the nolva.
An then pray allot.
Don't be such a fear monger. Who's to say there's even a fucking problem? Why not let nature take it's course and allow him body to recover before jabbing more shit? It's not a problem at this point. It is what it is.
If she's bitching about wanting to get pregnant ASAP then let her know she can wait. Having a baby isn't something to rush into. I flipped at my wife for being so damn impatient as well. Let nature run it's course and if nothing happens, then start taking some HCG. Plenty of guys have had babies on year long cycles. Some people have it easier than others and some people have it tougher.
If you were taking a gram of test then of course your sperm count will be low. What's the point of even getting it checked out? If you feel mutual and want to have a baby ASAP then I would suggest perusing it further. But if it's all her then tell her to calm down and stop being so impatient. It will happen down the road. Even guys who've been suppressed for decades have escaped hypogonadism and have become fertile. To stress about it is irrational.
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it not jerk,, its reality,, who hs she to comend him ,, she know he is bodybuild ,, she know he is on hormones,, hwen someone want kid they want kid together....this is not disctatorship,,she should solve problem with him together,, and if he has low sperm doctor will put him on hcg and sprm go up,, usualy it is female problem when cant get prego,, can alwys adopt,,
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its not like he is going to b place top 10 in pro line up because if he was he would not b here asking for help.he is just recreational user.he can take some time off.i think he is being selfish.women asking for baby does not sounds dictatorship by any means.
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I will tell you exactly how it is...
She talking about getting tests because her body clock has started ticking and its becoming baby time for her! What you will notice in the forecoming weeks/months:
1) Everything small will becime cute, such as small dogs, clothes, shoes etc however she will start to find small babies cute also. This will become very obvious to you as it will become more frequent.
2) She will start hanging about friends/family who have children more than usual
3) She will start wanting sex all the time..oh and the daily pill she is supposed to take she will "forget" from time to time and if its the injection/impant she will delay going for it if not at all.
4) You being drunk etc will not be a problem as she knows when your drunk you will fuck her brains out, infact expect bottles of wine waiting for you at home.
5) Expect her to be nicer to you than normal until she gets what she wants (sex)
Either way she will get what she wants or she will go mental after a while if you don't get her up the duff and take her frustrations out on you and eventually she will leave you if you fail to give her children and its "your fault" as your sperm are on a perm holiday.
My advice if you are not ready yet, double your gear doseage, take lots of Deca etc and make sure you shut down your spuds, go the doc without her, when you get your results and they won't be good, the doc will give you a load of HCG etc, stick it in the fridge and tell her "it's a little low, but working" and get the get shit loads of sex until she figures out your a lieing girl. Then you have 2
options when your relationship hits the brink:
A) Come off the gear, shoot HCG until you piss it and give her a good stuffing and give in
B) Trade her in for a younger version who don't want kids
On another note, somme of my friends been on gear and had kids no problem, some come off it for a while and then had kids, some had to have allsorts of treatment. Depends friend, all you need to know is she will turn into a bitch when shes up the duff, so enjoy!
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Don't be such a fear monger. Who's to say there's even a fucking problem? Why not let nature take it's course and allow him body to recover before jabbing more shit? It's not a problem at this point. It is what it is.
If she's bitching about wanting to get pregnant ASAP then let her know she can wait. Having a baby isn't something to rush into. I flipped at my wife for being so damn impatient as well. Let nature run it's course and if nothing happens, then start taking some HCG. Plenty of guys have had babies on year long cycles. Some people have it easier than others and some people have it tougher.
If you were taking a gram of test then of course your sperm count will be low. What's the point of even getting it checked out? If you feel mutual and want to have a baby ASAP then I would suggest perusing it further. But if it's all her then tell her to calm down and stop being so impatient. It will happen down the road. Even guys who've been suppressed for decades have escaped hypogonadism and have become fertile. To stress about it is irrational.
Do this^ I know plenty of people that have taken TONS of shit and have 2 and three kids.. One guy was getting blamed by his wife and it turned out to be HER having fertility issues...
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Do this^ I know plenty of people that have taken TONS of shit and have 2 and three kids.. One guy was getting blamed by his wife and it turned out to be HER having fertility issues...
Thanks for the backup, man. I'm just being realistic too. All the articles about steroids are fear mongering. Yes, you will get shut down but no, it's not impossible to conceive!! Look at these dudes on over 5g of steroids per week for a decade and their honeys start popping out babies. Someone should compile a list of steroid abusers that are happy fathers with healthy shorties!!
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Wife wants a sperm count ? Can't she count to 8 by herself ?
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thanks for all the replies, some are helpful and others are funny but all are appreciated haha
yeah shes a bit older so says she doesnt have time to wait and she gets pretty sensitive if i suggest waiting or not having one i dont really wanna take time off gear right now so im hoping by some miracle my sperm count is not too low. she asked her doc for fertility drugs because she has been off birth control now for 9 months with no pregnancy and he told her to do 3 different tests and me to do this sperm test and after looking at the results of all the tests he will decide if hes going to prescribe her fertility drugs so who knows she could have a fertility problem too maybe its both of us
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thanks for all the replies, some are helpful and others are funny but all are appreciated haha
yeah shes a bit older so says she doesnt have time to wait and she gets pretty sensitive if i suggest waiting or not having one i dont really wanna take time off gear right now so im hoping by some miracle my sperm count is not too low. she asked her doc for fertility drugs because she has been off birth control now for 9 months with no pregnancy and he told her to do 3 different tests and me to do this sperm test and after looking at the results of all the tests he will decide if hes going to prescribe her fertility drugs so who knows she could have a fertility problem too maybe its both of us
Usually once you both do all the tests the doctors will prescribe fertility drugs.
I just had to do the spunk test but I brought it to the wrong place. The fucking nurse sent me to the wrong laboratory where they only test for post vasectomies. I stood there with a jar of my own fucking jizz just right choked. They tell you not to bust a nut for two days prior and I really have trouble going that long not banging or spanking it. :(
Don't sweat it though. Your woman is clearly worrying herself sick, as they usually tend to do. Just show her the list of steroid abusers that have flocks of children. A couple of cycles won't do jack shit.
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thanks for all the replies, some are helpful and others are funny but all are appreciated haha
yeah shes a bit older so says she doesnt have time to wait and she gets pretty sensitive if i suggest waiting or not having one i dont really wanna take time off gear right now so im hoping by some miracle my sperm count is not too low. she asked her doc for fertility drugs because she has been off birth control now for 9 months with no pregnancy and he told her to do 3 different tests and me to do this sperm test and after looking at the results of all the tests he will decide if hes going to prescribe her fertility drugs so who knows she could have a fertility problem too maybe its both of us
She's been taking geat and not telling you
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should i worry? how much of a change of not being able to get children when i take testo?
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Nothing to worry about. You won't even need HCG. Unless you try for a year, don't bother the doctor.
I just went to get a sperm count and I brought my sample to the wrong lab in town because of a dumb nurse. I was so pissed off, standing with a jar of my fucking jizz and being told I've got to do that again and go somewhere else. Fuck!
Found out my wife has a sealed fallopian tube but not sure how fertile our infertile I am. Going for another count maybe but started on done HCG. Remind your wife that unless it's been a year of unprotected sex then she's being a douche.
Getting a swimmer count soon. Is there a concern with contaminating the sample with pull cream?
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thanks for all the replies, some are helpful and others are funny but all are appreciated haha
yeah shes a bit older so says she doesnt have time to wait and she gets pretty sensitive if i suggest waiting or not having one i dont really wanna take time off gear right now so im hoping by some miracle my sperm count is not too low. she asked her doc for fertility drugs because she has been off birth control now for 9 months with no pregnancy and he told her to do 3 different tests and me to do this sperm test and after looking at the results of all the tests he will decide if hes going to prescribe her fertility drugs so who knows she could have a fertility problem too maybe its both of us
you do cum inside her i hope,,, ned to drop the load inside pussy for it to hapen not on her IN her lol ;)
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should i worry? how much of a change of not being able to get children when i take testo?
No worries, there is already enough of your kind in Germany.
Quite the opposite, tell all your friends to take steroids too, and a lot of them. ;D ;D ;D
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No worries, there is already enough of your kind in Germany.
Quite the opposite, tell all your friends to take steroids too, and a lot of them. ;D ;D ;D
very racist for a ricecake eating german >:(
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K so does anyone here have any real experience with getting a sperm test done while on a gram of test or so for several months my wife thinks im the reason she hasnt gotten pregnant yet and wants me to get a sperm test done im hoping it comes out fine but not sure what to expect will get it done probably in a few days. when i google it i get a bunch of articles from non-bodybuilding sites saying how yeah steroids will reduce your sperm count significantly but wondering or hoping that some guys here have had some experience and can suggest otherwise thanks in advance
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One day a study will prove steroid use harms the quality of sperm just as much as alchohol, tobaco and other drugs.
You re tainting your genes, and if you ever have kids, you re going to taint their genes as a result.
Just for vanity, just because you re a fucking insecure loser.
It's all fun until one day something goes wrong with your offspring's health, something "that cant be explained right now" by docs who will be ignorant of your steroid use. But you -and your woman- somehow, deep inside, will have that fear; is this because of this moron past steroid use?
We all reap what we sow.
Your woman is actually wondering if she s not with a vain loser. Let's hope she s ignorant about the possible results of her man steroid use on the genes of her potential offspring with him.
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why don't you just say it allready :D
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why don't you just say it allready :D
Done.
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Thousands of my potential children died on your wifes face last night.
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Yup..they will also prove that wanking causes mutations in the Dna
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Thousands of my potential children died on your wifes face last night.
They did not die in vain...ha
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maybe you should tell your cnut wife to get her tubes checked first. what an insulting thing to tell you to do. she doesnt KNOW your on the juice right? so shes just assuming your a sterile old bastard and demanding scientific evidence to prove it, at which point she will ditch you and find a black man, which honestly she probably already has located and made contact with. wish i was you.
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Done.
What do you say if I live alone my entire life yet not feeling lonely, only shareing my goods with my friends at times but still getting a deceant living?
Also the fact that I believe in love but won't search it because I believe that no matter how extinct the white race may be, I'm not going to make babys just because god intended humans to do so because I want time for myself.
That I believe true love between a man and a woman comes as a sourprise and then there you are life upside down happy like a child in christmas? But even if it never happends I would be the most satisfied guy when it comes to lifestyle and personal time spent.
Would you consider me a waste of space and vain for those reasons? And if so, why?
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What do you say if I live alone my entire life yet not feeling lonely, only shareing my goods with my friends at times but still getting a deceant living?
Also the fact that I believe in love but won't search it because I believe that no matter how extinct the white race may be, I'm not going to make babys just because god intended humans to do so. That I believe true love between a man anda woman comes as a sorprise and then there you are life upside down happy like a child in christmas? But even if it never happends I would be the most satisfied guy when it comes to lifestyle and personal needs.
Would you consider me a waste of space and vain for those reasons? And if so, why?
Did your father abandon you and your mother?
Also you re still young judging by the pics you posted. But at some point, you ll feel alone, this is mathematical, you re just like everyone else, nothing more, nothing less. It's very common in kids abandonned by their fathers to think they re "special", "different", "better", "unique". But as they age, they understand they re just like everyone else. I guess you think you re a rebel not "being like everyone" not "following the same path as the aberage joe".
I'm not an animal like you all, I'm more than this! right?
Then deal ultimately with the results of your "pride". Dont build a family; and as result spend the rest of your life once you ve reached your 40s and nobody is interested in you anymore, completely alone, and immature.
Look at the lonely men in their 40s, their 50s, 60s. Talk to them. You ll understand. Look at guys or women like wes, runningmom, who need to go on an internetmessageboard to still have some kind of relationships with others humans because they dont have enough in their daily life at such an advantage age. That's because they have nobody to talk to, because they didnt care enough of others, so others finally decided to ignore them. That's for those who actually built and destroyed a family. Those who didnt even build a family have absolutely nobody to talk to anymore when they reach the 40s. Their parents, grand parents, are dead, and if they have no brothers, sisters, they re completely, totally alone. "Friends" and "coworkers" arent family.
Now on a side note if you "choose" not to reproduce, why should I care? I dont, it's your life, not mine.
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Lmfao!!!! ;D
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Did your father abandon you and your mother?
Let me see are you really wise or jus a mechanical fraud preacher. Lets see here.
No, my mom and dad were together all their life for 30 years untill my dad died in canser. They had their storms ofcourse but they survived by the power of love. And they were god fearing people, true christians. My mom can't phantom to have another guy even my dad has passed away because she said that she allready shared her life with the right one and that there can be noone else and now she enjoyes life in her own peacefull way, decorating her house, helping her mother sometimes who's 80 and who is going to go in the hands of god soon I think..
My dad was also a very strong person, a true business man who allways put family first and allways had time for us. He was very ambitious, very. He is the greatest man I have ever known to be honest, my dad that is. Wisest and truest. My mom is also like his mirror image, but as a woman and is wise beyond your comprehension.
SO uberman, with that said, I still want to live alone, without my own family, smoke weed, spend my money on fancy clothes and technology, train in the gym and fuck whores. What do you have to say to that?
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The only way you're going to increase sperm count while on AAS is taking HCG and HMG for at least 90 days. A typical protocol is HCG 2,000-5,000 IU 3 times/week and HMG 75 IU EOD or ED. It will probably cost you $200-$300/week, as most insurance companies don't cover fertility treatment. The other option is to get off AAS completely and go on clomid/nolva, but both treatments will take a minimum of 90 days before you reach normal sperm levels.
normal sperm levels are 20 - 200 million/ml. Yours are probably less than 5 million/ml.
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Let me see are you really wise or jus a mechanical fraud preacher. Lets see here.
No, my mom and dad were together all their life for 30 years untill my dad died in canser. They had their storms ofcourse but they survived by the power of love. And they were god fearing people, true christians. My mom can't phantom to have another guy even my dad has passed away because she said that she allready shared her life with the right one and that there can be noone else and now she enjoyes life in her own peacefull way, decorating her house, helping her mother sometimes who's 80 and who is going to go in the hands of god soon I think..
My dad was also a very strong person, a true business man who allways put family first and allways had time for us. He was very ambitious, very. He is the greatest man I have ever known to be honest, my dad that is. Wisest and truest. My mom is also like his mirror image, but as a woman and is wise beyond your comprehension.
SO uberman, with that said, I still want to live alone, without my own family, smoke weed, spend my money on fancy clothes and technology, train in the gym and fuck whores. What do you have to say to that?
You re the one asking me stuff in the first place, let's make it clear.
So, how old were you when your dad died?
No need to continue this on here btw, this could be done in private.
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You re the one asking me stuff in the first place, let's make it clear.
How old were you when your dad died?
No need to continue this on here btw, this could be done in private.
I asked because you have very wise posts, but this time the "single mom..." stuff doesn't apply.
He died 6 years ago. Yeah, you could say that "OOOh he could've helped you in so many ways now that you're in your twenties". Don't try to go around it because I've allways had mom&dad, allways.
So what's your excuse now. I hardly feel lonely, I have fun with friends. I have friends who I can rely on 100%.
So what would you think is the problem causing me to be this vain now?
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and if sperm count is low she'll leave you bro', because "of al the drug you took"
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she will put it in your face every fucking time you will have a discussion about whatever subject that pisses her off 8)
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I asked because you have very wise posts, but this time the "single mom..." stuff doesn't apply.
He died 6 years ago. Yeah, you could say that "OOOh he could've helped you in so many ways now that you're in your twenties". Don't try to go around it because I've allways had mom&dad, allways.
So what's your excuse now. I hardly feel lonely, I have fun with friends. I have friends who I can rely on 100%.
So what would you think is the problem causing me to be this vain now?
I never said you had a problem, you re the one asking me questions, again just a reminder, and I never said I saw this as a "problem" if you dont want reproduce right now - and i wouldnt even care if you wouldnt want to reproduce later in your life either; it would be your choice, and you would be the only one to reap what you sow, even if as a white man myself Im programmed to worry about people of my own race not wanting to reproduce anymore-.
The only thing that I can tell you is that you re still immature. It's not a criticism or anything, it just means you re young and have the Thought's developement of someone your age, as simple as that.
Still the path is the same for everyone, the steps are the same, the order they follow each others is the same, and everyone is at different step in this unique path of the human development. The steps you reach depend of your education, your upbringings, your genes, the love your received or didnt recieve, and of your Faith. Someone who has no faith -an atheist- see no problem evolving in society fucking other people in the ass and even feel good about evolving that way, while someone who has Faith takes care to evolve following rules, principles, that will make him help others if he/she can instead of walking on their faces with a smile while aiming at the top of the pyramid. Atheists dont care about the way they live, what matters are the direct results, benefits they can get for themselves. They dont feel like theyr re part of something bigger -often coming from something that exploded originally, ie their own family's structure- they are humans who cannot feel emotions anymore. These people cannot build families and create life as a result. As more and more people abandon religion and become atheists, as more and more of these atheists give birth to even deeper, bigger atheists, human relationships become colder, mechanical, animalistic. This is also a very deep concern because, nowadays kids get access to many knowledges, infos at the same time. Which means they are very smart, but coming from atheist families, increasingly emotionless and more and more egocentrical.
About humans psychological development;
There are virgin guys in their 40 s who never learned to seduce women -often raised by single mothers-, who are or arent homosexuals, who have or dont have a job, who have one or several "hobbies", and who understand things other people understood way younger just because they were told about it by their caregivers, parents, family, while they, didnt. Adults who just aged living in a bubble, stuck in time. I.m not talking about physically, biologically damaged individuals, severe cases of autism or trisomic people here, I'm talking about people who have all the biological equipment to fulfil their natural needs but dont. That's because their psychological development has been harmed by their caregivers.
Anyway, i your case, as you ll age the biological need to reproduce will slowly develop, but it might happen in 5, 10 or 15 years from now if you re only 20. It is pre embeded, programmed in us all. Your genes determine when you re going to feel the need to reproduce, when it will kick in. It might also be conditionned by your direct environment. For example in times of great despair, men and women reproduce sooner, younger. In times of peace, the biological need kicks in later.
We re totally dependant of the conditionnings that surround us as mich as we re dependant of the inner, embeded conditionnings we inherited from our genitors. All these pre programmations cross each others constantly and shape what we call human life.
The three main conditionnings that determine our "choices" (or more precisely, the limited options we re going to have to choose from) are our genes, our upbringing/education/faith/spirituality, and our direct physical environment.
I d also like to mention the fact that we human get bored of everything that is extreme at some point. And that focusing only on yourself, living in complete constant hedonism, also gets old. It's just a step. But some people stay stuck at that step forever, until it's too late to evolve to the next step.
It's not "my" opinion , it's just the way it works and has been explained by studies in the 60s and 70s. At some point all humans get sick of doing the same shit over and over again; like being unemployed, taking drugs, fleeing reality in virtual worlds etc. It will get old even to you as sure as 1+1 = 2.
Considering you come from a stable family, chances are high that once the biological need to reproduce kicks in, if you evolve to the next steps of human development in the next decade, you will reproduce with ease the way your father built his couple and family.
Let's just hope you know everything he did, good, or bad, in order to be sure what to reproduce to create life, and in order not to reproduce what he might have done that destroyed life. You need to know your past, your genitors respective pasts, in order to not reproduce their failures, to overcome them reported in your own existence if they didnt overcome them in theirs, and to continue, develop their positive strenghts you also inherited.
We are the sum of what precedes us, physically, and psychically. And when we reach full consciousness around the age of 20/25 , we then have the possibility to modify to some extent our past acquired or inherited conditionnings. For this we need an education though. And to make good use of our education and of our inherited, learned, acquired strenghts, to fight our weaknesses, we need Faith. How many people have strenghts they use badly simply because they didnt have Faith.
Without control, power is worthless.
Without Faith and love, hope that build a healthy confidence in humans, intelligence is worthless, even worse, it might end serving destruction.
Men who dont reproduce and build a healthy family end alone with noone to talk to for the last decades of their existence. Their brain biologically stops developing, as it has been proved constant -healthy- relationships maintain the constant development of the brain. Unhealthy relationships also deteriorates biologically the development of the brain and lead to what are called by science "mental illnesses". What keeps -less and less- people from seeing their brain biologically melt and at the same time/as a result their psychism collapse under its own weight are Faith and healthy significant relationships with loyal loved ones.
Faith is linked of the biological development of our limbic system and prefrontal lobes. When you dont have any faith anymore, the hypocampe and various others parts of the brain start shutting themselves down as the most recent studies reveal, just like it happens when you have nobody to talk to anymore.
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One day a study will prove steroid use harms the quality of sperm just as much as alchohol, tobaco and other drugs.
You re tainting your genes, and if you ever have kids, you re going to taint their genes as a result.
Just for vanity, just because you re a fucking insecure loser.
It's all fun until one day something goes wrong with your offspring's health, something "that cant be explained right now" by docs who will ignorant of your steroid use. But you -and your woman- somehow, deep inside, will have that fear; is this because of this moron past steroid use?
We all reap what we sow.
You re woman is actually wondering if she s not with a vain loser. Let's hope she s ignorant about the possible results of her man steroid use on the genes of her potential offspring with him.
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I never said you had a problem, you re the one asking me questions, again just a reminder, and I never said I saw this as a "problem" if you dont want reproduce right now - and i wouldnt even care if you wouldnt want to reproduce later in your life either; it would be your choice, and you would be the only one to reap what you sow, even if as a white man myself Im programmed to worry about people of my own race not wanting to reproduce anymore-.
The only thing that I can tell you is that you re still immature. It's not a criticism or anything, it just means you re young and have the Thought's developement of someone your age, as simple as that.
Still the path is the same for everyone, the steps are the same, the order they follow each others is the same, and everyone is at different step in this unique path of the human development. The steps you reach depend of your education, your upbringings, your genes, the love your received or didnt recieve, and of your Faith. Someone who has no faith -an atheist- see no problem evolving in society fucking other people in the ass and even feel good about evolving that way, while someone who has Faith takes care to evolve following rules, principles, that will make him help others if he/she can instead of walking on their faces with a smile while aiming at the top of the pyramid.
About humans psychological development;
There are virgin guys in their 40 s who never learned to seduce women -often raised by single mothers-, who are or arent homosexuals, who have or dont have a job, who have one or several "hobbies", and who understand things other people understood way younger just because they were told about it by their caregivers, parents, family, while they, didnt. Adults who just aged living in a bubble, stuck in time. I.m not talking about physically, biologically damaged individuals, severe cases of autism or trisomic people here, I'm talking about people who have all the biological equipment to fulfil their natural needs but dont. That's because their psychological development has been harmed by their caregivers.
Anyway, i your case, as you ll age the biological need to reproduce will slowly develop, but it might happen in 5, 10 or 15 years from now if you re only 20. It is pre embeded, programmed in us all. Your genes determine when you re going to feel the need to reproduce, when it will kick in. It might also be conditionned by your direct environment. For example in times of great despair, men and women reproduce sooner, younger. In times of peace, the biological need kicks in later.
We re totally dependant of the conditionnings that surround us as mich as we re dependant of the inner, embeded conditionnings we inherited from our genitors. All these pre programmations cross each others constantly and shape what we call human life.
The three main conditionnings that determine our "choices" (or more precisely, the limited options we re going to have to choose from) are our genes, our upbringing/education/faith/spirituality, and our direct physical environment.
I d also like to mention the fact that we human get bored of everything that is extreme at some point. And that focusing only on yourself, living in complete constant hedonism, also gets old. It's just a step. But some people stay stuck at that step forever, until it's too late to evolve to the next step.
It's not "my" opinion , it's just the way it works and has been explained by studies in the 60s and 70s. At some point all humans get sick of doing the same shit over and over again; like being unemployed, taking drugs, fleeing reality in virtual worlds etc. It will get old even to you as sure as 1+1 = 2.
Considering you come from a stable family, chances are high that once the biological need to reproduce kicks in, if you evolve to the next steps of human development in the next decade, you will reproduce with ease the way your father built his couple and family.
Let's just hope you know everything he did, good, or bad, in order to be sure what to reproduce to create life, and in order not to reproduce what he might have done that destroyed life. You need to know your past, your genitors respective pasts, in order to not reproduce their failures, to overcome them reported in your own existence if they didnt overcome them in theirs, and to continue, develop their positive strenghts you also inherited.
We are the sum of what precedes us, physically, and psychically. And when we reach full consciousness around the age of 20/25 years of age, we then have the possibility to modify to some extent our past acquired or inherited conditionnings. For this we need an education though. And to make good use of our education and of our inherited, learned, acquired strenght, we need Faith. How many people have strenghts they use badly simply because they didnt have Faith.
Without control, power is worthless.
Without Faith and love, hope that build a healthy confidence in humans, intelligence is worthless, even worse, it might end serving destruction.
Men who dont reproduce and build a healthy family end alone with noone to talk to for the last decades of their existence. Their brain biologically stops developing, as it has been proved constant -healthy- relationships maintain the constant development of the brain. Unhealthy relationships also deteriorates biologically the development of the brain and lead to what are called by science "mental illnesses". What keeps -less and less- people from seeing their brain biologically melt and at the same time/as a result their psychism collapse under its own weight are Faith and healthy significant relationships with loyal loved ones.
Faith is linked of the biological development of our limbic system and prefrontal lobes. When you dont have any faith anymore, the hypocampe and various others parts of the brain start shutting themselves down as the most recent studies reveal, just like it happens when you have nobody to talk to anymore.
Great post uberman, really. But as much as I'm awere about the world surrounding me and as much as I am awere of my past and my parents past I do enjoy my own company.
I don't denie the fact that someday I may feel like I need to make babys just like now I have the feeling to be succesfull and complete as a person which is more important to me than anything at this moment.
However I'm not an animal and I will not search for my partner like an animal. God works in mysterious ways and I may only "reproduce" with a woman that I truly love. I was raised better than that. I believe that the one will appear in my life as a sign, but at that moment I don't know for sure is it a sign but it will be something I've never fealt before.
With a person like that I'm willing to grow roots together, build together, crash together, create together.
I don't think about these things so mechanicly as you do, allthough it helps to shape reality but people are much more than mechanical thought procecess and genes. Love and god are the greatest in the end, even I have a vain lifestyle from time to time I do have love in my heart and only through that I would ever make a child.
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Great post uberman, really. But as much as I'm awere about the world surrounding me and as much as I am awere of my past and my parents past I do enjoy my own company.
I don't denie the fact that someday I may feel like I need to make babys just like now I have the feeling to be succesfull and complete as a person which is more important to me than anything at this moment.
However I'm not an animal and I will not search for my partner like an animal. God works in mysterious ways and I may only "reproduce" with a woman that I truly love. I was raised better than that. I believe that the one will appear in my life as a sign, but at that moment I don't know for sure is it a sign but it will be something I've never fealt before.
With a person like that I'm willing to grow roots together, build together, crash together, create together.
I don't think about these things so mechanicly as you do, allthough it helps to shape reality but people are much more than mechanical thought procecess and genes. Love and god are the greatest in the end, even I have a vain lifestyle from time to time I do have love in my heart and only through that I would ever make a child.
The difference between a human and an animal, is that humans have the capacity to have Faith. Humans without Faith are animals and only care about themselves even if it means at the expense of the interest of mankind as a whole.
Faith is also innate. We all have it when we re kids, what we cal the child's "innocence".
It either gets cultivated by our caregivers - if they re believers themselves- and develops , gets stronger as we age, or get destroyed by them as they harm themselves and us the more they abandon God's words believing they are God themselves. When it gets destroyed slowly by those who gave us life and others, it leads to depressive states later in life, something those who have a strong Faith are immune to. They are often the same who enjoy building families.
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The difference between a human and an animal, is human s capacity to have Faith. Humans without Faith are animals. Faith is innate. We all have it when we re kids. It either gets cultivated by our caregivers - if they re believers themselves- and develops , gets stronger as we age, or get destroyed by them as they harm themselves and us the more they abandon God's words believing they are God themselves.
shouldn't you be making a pie or something, tubby
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The difference between a human and an animal, is human s capacity to have Faith. Humans without Faith are animals. Faith is innate. We all have it when we re kids. It either gets cultivated by our caregivers - if they re believers themselves- and develops , gets stronger as we age, or get destroyed by them as they harm themselves and us the more they abandon God's words believing they are God themselves.
Yes well obviously you didn't read what I said, or if you did, you forgot what I said 2 seconds after that. I have faith. And people without faith are not animals but lost. Don't pass judgement so easily there, friend.
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Yes well obviously you didn't read what I said, or if you did, you forgot what I said 2 seconds after that. I have faith. And people without faith are not animals but lost. Don't pass judgement so easily there, friend.
Has nothing to do with passing judgement easily.
When there are too many lost individuals in any given real life threatening situation for you, you d better consider them as animals for your own survival or the survival of your loved ones, "my (younger) friend". There are a lot of people who are lost, and we have a lot of capacities in ourselves to potentially help them, especially when we re still young, but our energy to do so is limited and gradually decreases as we age. And we often have a lot of this limited energy to use to better ourselves first and foremost.
You ll figure that one later.
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Has nothing to do with passing judgement easily.
When there are too many lost individuals in any given real life threatening situation for you, you d better consider them as animals for your own survival or the survival of your loved ones, "my (younger) friend". There a lot of people who are lost, and we have a lot of capacities in ourselves to help them, but our energy to do so is LIMITED.
You ll figure that one later.
Now you're talking about life threatning sittuation and that is a completely other topic.
Everyone, if you're following our little conversation here, this is not christianity that you should consider other people as lesser creatures than you just because they don't have faith and are animalistic in nature because they have no clue and haven't had the luxury to have great environment to grow in. They are lost. Jesus was able to forgive judas. So even though I will difend my love ones with my own life and I will difend my own life to the death if necessary, it does not mean I consider those people I need to difend against as lesser people, I would never abandon my faith like that it's allways with me.
STRONG NOTE; I say this because uberman claims to be a man of god but for a man of god he has very sinister way of looking people down and ridiculing them.
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Didn't Branch Warren just get his old lady pregnant? Explain that one...
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Now you're talking about life threatning sittuation and that is a completely other topic.
Everyone, if you're following our little conversation here, this is not christianity that you should consider other people as lesser creatures than you just because they don't have faith and are animalistic in nature because they have no clue and haven't had the luxury to have great environment to grow in. They are lost. Jesus was able to forgive judas. So even though I will difend my love ones with my own life and I will difend my own life to the death if necessary, it does not mean I consider those people I need to difend against as lesser people, I would never abandon my faith like that it's allways with me.
STRONG NOTE; I say this because uberman claims to be a man of god but for a man of god he has very sinister way of looking people down and ridiculing them.
That's just because being older than you I know that being nice (and i also hope you know the difference between genuinely nice people and fake nice people) doesnt always help others, sometimes it requires kicks in the ass too, especially when you elevate in the social ladder (and when you become a father) and get more and more responsabilities as a result.
In fact dealing with people less mature, educated and/or faitfhul than you constantly requires you to use a mix of both strategies, being nice and kicking them in the ass. And in a society full of fatherless kids and "adults", kicks in the ass are even more often required. But this is only the beginning.
But again you ll figure that later.
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shouldn't you be making a pie or something, tubby
Are you saying that because he's really fat johnny ?
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Are you saying that because he's really fat johnny ?
fat?
what are you talking about Groink
he posted a pic of a inshape guy and then posted a pic of him pointing at a piece of paper with his name it
what are you implying?
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btw, check out my results from my heavy training
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That's just because being older than you I know that being nice (and i also hope you know the difference between genuinely nice people and fake nice people) doesnt always help others, sometimes it requires kicks in the ass too. A constant mix of both. But again you ll figure that later.
Wrong again, I have figured it out a loooooong ass time ago and what you now said is correct, but I'm not losing my faith in order to allow my self to be evil and get away with whatever sin I may do just to prove a point that they are wrong and need to be kicked in the head, you never get away with it. I am selfish, but not in the name of god, not in the name of my faith, I will do it knowing what I may get from it. My faith and my ego do not go hand in hand.
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fat?
what are you talking about Groink
he posted a pic of a inshape guy and then posted a pic of him pointing at a piece of paper with his name it
what are you implying?
Yeah...I hear that's how O.J. beat that murder rap a while back
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groink, jnn... glad you could join us 8) :D
sup, brahs!
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Did your father abandon you and your mother?
Also you re still young judging by the pics you posted. But at some point, you ll feel alone, this is mathematical, you re just like everyone else, nothing more, nothing less. It's very common in kids abandonned by their fathers to think they re "special", "different", "better", "unique". But as they age, they understand they re just like everyone else. I guess you think you re a rebel not "being like everyone" not "following the same path as the aberage joe".
I'm not an animal like you all, I'm more than this! right?
Then deal ultimately with the results of your "pride". Dont build a family; and as result spend the rest of your life once you ve reached your 40s and nobody is interested in you anymore, completely alone, and immature.
Look at the lonely men in their 40s, their 50s, 60s. Talk to them. You ll understand. Look at guys or women like wes, runningmom, who need to go on an internetmessageboard to still have some kind of relationships with others humans because they dont have enough in their daily life at such an advantage age. That's because they have nobody to talk to, because they didnt care enough of others, so others finally decided to ignore them. That's for those who actually built and destroyed a family. Those who didnt even build a family have absolutely nobody to talk to anymore when they reach the 40s. Their parents, grand parents, are dead, and if they have no brothers, sisters, they re completely, totally alone. "Friends" and "coworkers" arent family.
Now on a side note if you "choose" not to reproduce, why should I care? I dont, it's your life, not mine.
wtf lol
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Did your father abandon you and your mother?
Also you re still young judging by the pics you posted. But at some point, you ll feel alone, this is mathematical, you re just like everyone else, nothing more, nothing less. It's very common in kids abandonned by their fathers to think they re "special", "different", "better", "unique". But as they age, they understand they re just like everyone else. I guess you think you re a rebel not "being like everyone" not "following the same path as the aberage joe".
I'm not an animal like you all, I'm more than this! right?
Then deal ultimately with the results of your "pride". Dont build a family; and as result spend the rest of your life once you ve reached your 40s and nobody is interested in you anymore, completely alone, and immature.
Look at the lonely men in their 40s, their 50s, 60s. Talk to them. You ll understand. Look at guys or women like wes, runningmom, who need to go on an internetmessageboard to still have some kind of relationships with others humans because they dont have enough in their daily life at such an advantage age. That's because they have nobody to talk to, because they didnt care enough of others, so others finally decided to ignore them. That's for those who actually built and destroyed a family. Those who didnt even build a family have absolutely nobody to talk to anymore when they reach the 40s. Their parents, grand parents, are dead, and if they have no brothers, sisters, they re completely, totally alone. "Friends" and "coworkers" arent family.
Now on a side note if you "choose" not to reproduce, why should I care? I dont, it's your life, not mine.
HEY FUCKFACE,I HAVE A TON OF FRIENDS, AND A WIFE THAT I LOVE AND HAVE BEEN MARRIED TO FOR 9 YEARS NOW.
STOP MAKING UP SHIT ABOUT THINGS AND PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW JACKSHIT ABOUT!!
YOU HAVE TO BE THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE I`VE EVER SEEN ON ANY FORUM I`VE EVER POSTED ON.
WHY ARE YOU HERE ALL THE TIME,COULD IT BE YOU`RE A SHUT IN LOSER WITH NO ONE TO TALK TO WHO BEATS OFF ALL DAY AND HAS FOR HIS ENTIRE LIFE ?
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low sperm count , does not mean you can't make your woman pregnant...
i concieved my little girl when i was on.... she is a very healthy, very happy, princess!
if it is real low, get on some hcg... maybe some nolvadex... oh and hgh!
drop the steroids for a while.... if by then the wife is still not preggo, the problem is her!
smoking is just as bad, all the junkfood, chemicals in food etc etc .....
and some guys are just infertile, happens you know? most bodybuild i know have kids.... never heard of problems.... even on cycle they concieve kids, but we are europeans... lol.... we eat better, actually cook in our own kitchen lol!, going out to eat is a treat, and so is junk food....
on average americans are just very unhealthy people....
and if you have been on steroids for a long time the body adapts.... and though your balls maybe small, they do produce sperm.... read that somewhere in an article.... to lazy to search for it, maybe someone will?
that is why test injections as a male contraceptive was not approved....
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HEY FUCKFACE,I HAVE A TON OF FRIENDS, AND A WIFE THAT I LOVE AND HAVE BEEN MARRIED TO FOR 9 YEARS NOW.
STOP MAKING UP SHIT ABOUT THINGS AND PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW JACKSHIT ABOUT!!
YOU HAVE TO BE THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE I`VE EVER SEEN ON ANY FORUM I`VE EVER POSTED ON.
WHY ARE YOU HERE ALL THE TIME,COULD IT BE YOU`RE A SHUT IN LOSER WITH NO ONE TO TALK TO WHO BEATS OFF ALL DAY AND HAS FOR HIS ENTIRE LIFE ?
Youve seen his picture..right?
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HEY FUCKFACE,I HAVE A TON OF FRIENDS, AND A WIFE THAT I LOVE AND HAVE BEEN MARRIED TO FOR 9 YEARS NOW.
STOP MAKING UP SHIT ABOUT THINGS AND PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW JACKSHIT ABOUT!!
YOU HAVE TO BE THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE I`VE EVER SEEN ON ANY FORUM I`VE EVER POSTED ON.
WHY ARE YOU HERE ALL THE TIME,COULD IT BE YOU`RE A SHUT IN LOSER WITH NO ONE TO TALK TO WHO BEATS OFF ALL DAY AND HAS FOR HIS ENTIRE LIFE ?
Take it easy me old mucker, trolls will be trolls :)
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Youve seen his picture..right?
Yeah,hence the beating off all of his life referance! :)
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Take it easy me old mucker, trolls will be trolls :)
I know,I`m OK now. ;D
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Watch this and you will be ok..
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Kentucky_cowboy, I'll do ya a favor and knock her up for ya 8)
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sky if you wanna do me a favour how about you jizz in the cup and i use your semen and claim it to be mine to pass the test so she doesnt give me a hard time about saying on gear haha
anyway its positive to hear some of you impregnated while on gear that must mean it doesnt eliminate sperm count in everybody i mean u need sperm to impregnate after all right i havent ejaculated in about 48 hours now so tomorrow daytime ill do this test and hope for the best
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gh15 just answered the question the dumbest way possible lol
I mean, not anyone want to give up life because of muscles.. if you want to have a child, than you stop using gear for several weeks, maybe go on some hcg and see what happens.. than when she's pregnant you go back on, simple as fuck
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trap 2 looks inviting..
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