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Title: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 23, 2011, 04:57:22 PM
I need some opinions here on health. I know gh15 says running steroids forever won't kill you, but come on...

Right now I have fallen into a trap where I just feel like everything is perfect for me right now. I look incredible, I get more pussy now than I ever could have dreamt of, I go out and drink alcohol 4x per week and eat like crap and look better every day, my whole mood is great, my perspective on life is great, I am always positive and upbeat about everything, etc.

However, the main reason for all of this is the following
70mg test prop every day (490mg per week)
80mg tren ace every day (560mg per week)
5iu hgh every day

I have been doing this 11 weeks now and I just dont want to ever stop. It is just too good to be true right now.

I have NEVER done any type of drug or narcotic by the way...

Realistically, how long can I keep this up while keeping my health in check? Would it be wise to stop for maybe 4 weeks at a time (while staying on a low dose test) just to keep safe and then. It is just so hard to stop what I am doing and jeopardize how great everything is going for me right now

honest advice please. What would you guys do in this situation?
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Max B on December 23, 2011, 05:05:39 PM
Bro just cause gh15 is against drugs doesnt mean it equals instant death or some shit. The reason he doesnt talk about drugs slin and diuretics is cuz everyone does whatever he says like a goddamn jimjones compound  All bodybuilders i kno take painkillers and xanax to some extent. It really depends on what compounds your running  i personally stay clean when im on  especially if your messing with tren or diuretics for example. None drink though. Alcohol is the worst drug for your body IMO. Just learn your own body, yes gh15 is god of hormones but you dont have to base your whole life on what he says. Hes not your doctor or responsible for anything you do to yourself, he's a pro bodybuilder that enlightened us all
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: el numero uno on December 23, 2011, 05:07:18 PM
Yes, test is the best antideppresant ever.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Nirvana on December 23, 2011, 05:11:01 PM
as long as you don't get injured, bad gear, mass organ failure, arrested, you'll be fine. 
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: el numero uno on December 23, 2011, 05:11:54 PM
BTW, eating whatever you want, drinking a lot, could not take a toll on your look because the hormones you're using. But add all this shit togheter (hormones included ofc) and IMO it will take a toll in your body after some years. I mean, most people never stop so I talk about doing this for >15 years.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: nosleep on December 23, 2011, 05:16:27 PM
IT COULD.

ASK BIG A..... :D
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 23, 2011, 05:16:55 PM
BTW, eating whatever you want, drinking a lot, could not take a toll on your look because the hormones you're using. But add all this shit togheter (hormones included ofc) and IMO it will take a toll in your body after some years. I mean, most people never stop so I talk about doing this for >15 years.


I still eat 50% clean. It's not a complete mess like mcdonalds 5 times per day or anything. I eat stuff like eggs on a whole wheat bagel with cheese, chipotle, buffalo wings, macaroni and cheese, etc. I always make sure to have grilled chicken and oats post workout though. The drinking is more like 3x per week but like 5 drinks on average. Maybe one binge night every week or every other week maybe. I certainly havent been doing this routine for 15 years
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: newmom on December 23, 2011, 05:18:47 PM
I'm sure it will at some point, but you're young. Do with what makes you happy and feel good, who gives a fuck what anyone else says
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: chaos on December 23, 2011, 05:18:56 PM
Pretty sure its called "the calm before the storm" and you're already fucked.

PIP :(
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: bradistani on December 23, 2011, 05:19:12 PM
I need some opinions here on health. I know gh15 says running steroids forever won't kill you, but come on...

Right now I have fallen into a trap where I just feel like everything is perfect for me right now. I look incredible, I get more pussy now than I ever could have dreamt of, I go out and drink alcohol 4x per week and eat like crap and look better every day, my whole mood is great, my perspective on life is great, I am always positive and upbeat about everything, etc.

However, the main reason for all of this is the following
70mg test prop every day (490mg per week)
80mg tren ace every day (560mg per week)
5iu hgh every day

I have been doing this 11 weeks now and I just dont want to ever stop. It is just too good to be true right now.

I have NEVER done any type of drug or narcotic by the way...

Realistically, how long can I keep this up while keeping my health in check? Would it be wise to stop for maybe 4 weeks at a time (while staying on a low dose test) just to keep safe and then. It is just so hard to stop what I am doing and jeopardize how great everything is going for me right now

honest advice please. What would you guys do in this situation?

sounds pretty sweet to me  8)  you're fretting, why  ???
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 23, 2011, 05:20:28 PM
I'm sure it will at some point, but you're young. Do with what makes you happy and feel good, who gives a fuck what anyone else says

Not sure what makes you think I care. I am just trying to see if I can keep doing this without severe health consequences in the next couple of years

sounds pretty sweet to me  8)  you're fretting, why  ???

It is homie. Just don't wanna kill myself for all this glory
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: el numero uno on December 23, 2011, 05:24:08 PM
Not sure what makes you think I care. I am just trying to see if I can keep doing this without severe health consequences in the next couple of years


You just contradicted yourself
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 23, 2011, 05:27:28 PM
You just contradicted yourself

how?
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Swlabr on December 23, 2011, 05:30:34 PM
You just contradicted yourself

He said he doesn't care about what others think.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Natural Man on December 23, 2011, 05:45:08 PM
I need some opinions here on health. I know gh15 says running steroids forever won't kill you, but come on...

Right now I have fallen into a trap where I just feel like everything is perfect for me right now. I look incredible, I get more pussy now than I ever could have dreamt of, I go out and drink alcohol 4x per week and eat like crap and look better every day, my whole mood is great, my perspective on life is great, I am always positive and upbeat about everything, etc.


The drugs modify the chemistry in your brain, production of dopamine, serotonin, which make your mood. It is all artificial. Once you get off the drugs, all the artificial effects disapear and you get back to your normal mood. The psychological problems you might have even if hidden, arent solved. Why can t you live without drugs that artificially modify your perception of reality? Why cant you feel good without drugs?
You re going to get addicted to the feeling of artificial well beingness produced by the drugs and wont be able to go off them.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: dustin on December 23, 2011, 05:46:46 PM
You never know if you have a genetic pre-disposition for some fucked up disease or illness, so it's still good to err on the side of safety at the end of the day. I try my best to run as low doses as possible. And I try to eat well, that way when I do binge out I don't feel as guilty and sort of take my health into account...

Put in whatever you feel is an honest effort when it comes to your health. After all, it's your health and no one else's.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: njflex on December 23, 2011, 05:51:13 PM
You never know if you have a genetic pre-disposition for some fucked up disease or illness, so it's still good to err on the side of safety at the end of the day. I try my best to run as low doses as possible. And I try to eat well, that way when I do binge out I don't feel as guilty and sort of take my health into account...

Put in whatever you feel is an honest effort when it comes to your health. After all, it's your health and no one else's.
well put,,,
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Natural Man on December 23, 2011, 05:51:20 PM
I'm sure it will at some point, but you're young. Do with what makes you happy and feel good, who gives a fuck what anyone else says
Yeah, only follow the principle of short term pleasure, and forget about long term genuine hapiness. Take all the shortcuts, and forget about everything else you re missing as a result, must not be that important, right?


And end like running mom, wes, groink , disturbia, quakeroats, arvilla, booty etc.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: L.L on December 23, 2011, 06:05:47 PM
you dont have to stop however i suggest you to get bloodwrok done every 6 months or so just to make sure nothing is "too out of hand" ...Also if i might add ,  after 10-12 months on I cruise for 4-6 weeks to give my body , mind a break  at dose of 300 mgs of test , increase my gh to 15-20 ius daily..and it's when i add 10ius of Humalog PWO for those 5 weeks..you'll keep all your size and look and be ready to blast again.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: aesthetics on December 23, 2011, 06:07:58 PM
alcohol is a drug, bro and it's probably the worst one you are using, as far as negative impact on your life goes any ways. more people get their life messed up due to drinking than anything else.

what's your cholesterol look like? test alone is enough to ruin my cholesterol (i don't even want to say how bad it gets just from injectables alone) but everyone is different.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 23, 2011, 06:19:21 PM
you dont have to stop however i suggest you to get bloodwrok done every 6 months or so just to make sure nothing is "too out of hand" ...Also if i might add ,  after 10-12 months on I cruise for 4-6 weeks to give my body , mind a break  at dose of 300 mgs of test , increase my gh to 15-20 ius daily..and it's when i add 10ius of Humalog PWO for those 5 weeks..you'll keep all your size and look and be ready to blast again.


good idea. Is bloodwork all good from this?
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 23, 2011, 06:20:22 PM
alcohol is a drug, bro and it's probably the worst one you are using, as far as negative impact on your life goes any ways. more people get their life messed up due to drinking than anything else.

what's your cholesterol look like? test alone is enough to ruin my cholesterol (i don't even want to say how bad it gets just from injectables alone) but everyone is different.

LDL is fine but HDL was 33 on the range of 40> right before i added tren. And alcohol isnt that bad. The whole world drinks
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: L.L on December 23, 2011, 06:24:59 PM
good idea. Is bloodwork all good from this?

my bloodwork checks out fine all the time..i mean  one or 2 things out of range but it is normal  , not out of hand or osmething to worry about..and it's pretty cheap nowdays...you go to www.privatemdlabs.com/.. the first time i bought the complete hormone panel for males just to have a base,  but after that you just need to buy the hormone panel for females , yes female has everytihng u need to know and it only vost 59.99 .. and add lipids to it..it's like 100 bucks , they will email you order and you take to the nearest labcorp and get your blood drawn ...check that website out
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Rearden Metal on December 23, 2011, 06:25:08 PM
The drugs modify the chemistry in your brain, production of dopamine, serotonin, which make your mood. It is all artificial. Once you get off the drugs, all the artificial effects disapear and you get back to your normal mood. The psychological problems you might have even if hidden, arent solved. Why can t you live without drugs that artificially modify your perception of reality? Why cant you feel good without drugs?
You re going to get addicted to the feeling of artificial well beingness produced by the drugs and wont be able to go off them.

haha addicted to feeling good. No, no I'd much rather naturally hate my fucking life like uberman.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: apply85 on December 23, 2011, 06:27:54 PM
if u wanna get off then get off, if u dont then dont
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: njflex on December 23, 2011, 06:31:29 PM
Yeah, only follow the principle of short term pleasure, and forget about long term genuine hapiness. Take all the shortcuts, and forget about everything else you re missing as a result, must not be that important, right?


And end like running mom, wes, groink , disturbia, quakeroats, arvilla, booty etc.
they all seem like good peeps to me...
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Natural Man on December 23, 2011, 06:32:27 PM
they all seem like good peeps to me...
ask their kids for those who were able to have ones.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: apply85 on December 23, 2011, 06:34:10 PM
if ur posting on getbig about how perfect ur life is, ur life cant be that perfect
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 23, 2011, 06:44:33 PM
my bloodwork checks out fine all the time..i mean  one or 2 things out of range but it is normal  , not out of hand or osmething to worry about..and it's pretty cheap nowdays...you go to www.privatemdlabs.com/.. the first time i bought the complete hormone panel for males just to have a base,  but after that you just need to buy the hormone panel for females , yes female has everytihng u need to know and it only vost 59.99 .. and add lipids to it..it's like 100 bucks , they will email you order and you take to the nearest labcorp and get your blood drawn ...check that website out

yep I know this site. I have been using a regular doctor for bloodwork but i hate it. They always try to get on their high horse and holier than though nonsense when they have not the slightest clue about steroids.

what's the deal with this though? i want to use it next time. I just buy a hormone panel and then find a location for them to do it confidentially and i get results within 24 hours?

shit just checked. no lab sites anywhere close to me
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: tom joad on December 23, 2011, 06:44:47 PM
if ur posting on getbig about how perfect ur life is, ur life cant be that perfect

truer words have never been spoken.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 23, 2011, 06:46:26 PM
if ur posting on getbig about how perfect ur life is, ur life cant be that perfect

If I knew my health was untouchable, it would be
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Post by: flinstones1 on December 23, 2011, 06:47:54 PM
how can one have a perfect life at a height of 5'10?  

Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: che on December 23, 2011, 06:52:15 PM
Just enjoy it , everything comes to an end anyway.
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Post by: dustin on December 23, 2011, 06:55:30 PM
haha addicted to feeling good. No, no I'd much rather naturally hate my fucking life like uberman.

HAHAHAHA flawless victory!!!

Fucking OWNED uberman right there. We only live once. I'd rather be happy and juice instead of being a miserable fuck like uberman.
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Post by: 240 is Back on December 23, 2011, 06:56:58 PM
g
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Post by: growth on December 23, 2011, 06:59:26 PM
HAHAHAHA flawless victory!!!

Fucking OWNED uberman right there. We only live once. I'd rather be happy and juice instead of being a miserable fuck like uberman.

100% natural, 100% miserable - the uberman way of life ;D
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Man of Steel on December 23, 2011, 07:05:34 PM
as long as you don't get injured, bad gear, mass organ failure, arrested, you'll be fine. 

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA!!!!!  Yes, just avoid this very real list of possibilities and all is good....abuse away.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 23, 2011, 07:09:55 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!  Yes, just avoid this very real list of possibilities and all is good....abuse away.

yooo brochacho, the point is that I dont want to abuse away if it does have real risks over the long term (when i say long term, im talking maybe 1 year, 2 at most...baby steps)
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: dustin on December 23, 2011, 07:17:25 PM
100% natural, 100% miserable - the uberman way of life ;D

Spot on. Someone should get that printed on a t-shirt and mail it to his miserable ass! 8)
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: bigbobs on December 23, 2011, 07:35:31 PM
Yes, test is the best antideppresant ever.

NASSER said in one of his bb.com interviews that he felt doctors should prescribe testosterone as an anti-depressant
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: L.L on December 23, 2011, 07:38:47 PM
yep I know this site. I have been using a regular doctor for bloodwork but i hate it. They always try to get on their high horse and holier than though nonsense when they have not the slightest clue about steroids.

what's the deal with this though? i want to use it next time. I just buy a hormone panel and then find a location for them to do it confidentially and i get results within 24 hours?

shit just checked. no lab sites anywhere close to me

you get results in 3-5 days ,,it's 100 % confidential.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: QuakerOats on December 23, 2011, 07:40:25 PM
I need some opinions here on health. I know gh15 says running steroids forever won't kill you, but come on...

Right now I have fallen into a trap where I just feel like everything is perfect for me right now. I look incredible, I get more pussy now than I ever could have dreamt of, I go out and drink alcohol 4x per week and eat like crap and look better every day, my whole mood is great, my perspective on life is great, I am always positive and upbeat about everything, etc.

However, the main reason for all of this is the following
70mg test prop every day (490mg per week)
80mg tren ace every day (560mg per week)
5iu hgh every day

I have been doing this 11 weeks now and I just dont want to ever stop. It is just too good to be true right now.

I have NEVER done any type of drug or narcotic by the way...

Realistically, how long can I keep this up while keeping my health in check? Would it be wise to stop for maybe 4 weeks at a time (while staying on a low dose test) just to keep safe and then. It is just so hard to stop what I am doing and jeopardize how great everything is going for me right now

honest advice please. What would you guys do in this situation?
you really dont run much gear at all for someone your size if thats really you in your picture, you must have great genetics in addition to the gas.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Nirvana on December 23, 2011, 07:52:52 PM
the fact that you even acknowledge that something can go wrong, instead of taking everything for granted, should give you some good karma or something.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: QuakerOats on December 23, 2011, 07:53:54 PM
haha addicted to feeling good. No, no I'd much rather naturally hate my fucking life like uberman.
hahaha, Uberman is quite the 44 year old virginal pussy is he not Rearden?
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Post by: polychronopolous on December 23, 2011, 07:57:05 PM
haha addicted to feeling good. No, no I'd much rather naturally hate my fucking life like uberman.

LOL  ;D
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Post by: apply85 on December 23, 2011, 08:02:12 PM
how do u stay a virgin that long when u look like that, maybe women pick up on how cold he is and get scared. imagine the day he loses his virginity, he looks at his posts and thinks, i wrote that ???
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Post by: el numero uno on December 23, 2011, 08:13:25 PM
add fava beans to the stack

They are very tasty. I eat them a lot.
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Post by: arce1988 on December 23, 2011, 08:14:47 PM
 you cant ride the tiger forever
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Post by: chess315 on December 23, 2011, 09:11:13 PM
  imo your biggest concern would be alcohol very few youths that drink several times a week make it to there 30s with out some sort of serious legal or social repercussions of some sort. It not always the most abusive drinker that gets in trouble its more the social drinkers that are out and about. Like slinpump said his friend swiper crusied 1500 for 12yrs lol I also think body weight has a lot to do with health risks your still only 225 or so of course 250lb men are more prone to heart attack that. The tren I would be a little leary of proably not a whole lot that is a decent does. One more thing by no means to I suggest to quit getting druk 4 times a week lol
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: dustin on December 23, 2011, 09:17:27 PM
*** BLAH BLAH BLAH ***

And end like running mom, wes, groink , disturbia, quakeroats, arvilla, booty etc.

You know what the thing is about those people you've listed? They're all fucking awesome, beautiful people on the best bodybuilding board in the world. I wouldn't think twice of bringing them into my home, feeding them and giving them a place to stay.

I could say the same about a lot of Getbiggers as well. If I won the lottery, one thing I'd add to the bucket list would be to fly most of you mother fuckers out somewhere for a paid vacation just to shoot the shit. Oh yeah, you wouldn't be invited though, uberman. We'd just send you a post card or something. :-\
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: aesthetics on December 23, 2011, 09:24:19 PM
if i won the lottery i wouldn't spend it on a single other person besides myself, real talk.
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Post by: SF1900 on December 23, 2011, 10:09:57 PM
When you eventually lose your size, I wonder what a woman is going to see in you?  :-\ :-\ Do you have anything else going for you excpt your body?
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: buselmo on December 23, 2011, 10:18:44 PM
think looooong and hard about what you would be doing if you aren't working out and using tren, prop, and gh...
i'll tell you, you'd probably be 280 lbs at 50% fat not being able to take 2 steps without gasping for air... like 90% of my friends

as you grow up, you get bored of this crap and want to change... that's IF you did it...
if you don't do it and say you'll "focus on health" and shit like that, sooner or later you are going to break down at an old age and say fuck it! i'm doing 3 grams of test and 2 grams of tren with 20 iu gh for a year and accomplish what i never did!... this will probably happen after you changed your life, probably got married and have kids or something like that, and have more important things to worry about instead of getting big and cut... get my point? get it out of the way instead of making it linger and the thought of not knowing "what could have been" haunts you all the time.

lemme tell you... right now, i have $2500 as "excess" for the end of the year... 5 years ago, i would've said "I'm gonna buy a ton of GH with this!!!" ... right now, the thought of GH is "meh"... and i just looked at my wife and said "hey, wanna spend the long weekend in dubai and party all week?"... why? cuz i've been there, done that, and outgrew it.

you're relatively young... get it out of your system... you'll get bored later on.

as for health... that shit's way overrated... people say "well don't you want to watch your kids grow up and have grandkids?" first of all, you never know when you're gonna die... 2nd, kids are the no.1 risk to your fucking health! LOL... I know two guys who had heart attacks when their kids flunked senior year in high school! LOL



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Post by: Meso_z on December 23, 2011, 11:06:54 PM
TRANSLATION: I'm an addict.

You could have said it in 3 words.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: aesthetics on December 23, 2011, 11:21:11 PM
think looooong and hard about what you would be doing if you aren't working out and using tren, prop, and gh...
i'll tell you, you'd probably be 280 lbs at 50% fat not being able to take 2 steps without gasping for air... like 90% of my friends

as you grow up, you get bored of this crap and want to change... that's IF you did it...
if you don't do it and say you'll "focus on health" and shit like that, sooner or later you are going to break down at an old age and say fuck it! i'm doing 3 grams of test and 2 grams of tren with 20 iu gh for a year and accomplish what i never did!... this will probably happen after you changed your life, probably got married and have kids or something like that, and have more important things to worry about instead of getting big and cut... get my point? get it out of the way instead of making it linger and the thought of not knowing "what could have been" haunts you all the time.

lemme tell you... right now, i have $2500 as "excess" for the end of the year... 5 years ago, i would've said "I'm gonna buy a ton of GH with this!!!" ... right now, the thought of GH is "meh"... and i just looked at my wife and said "hey, wanna spend the long weekend in dubai and party all week?"... why? cuz i've been there, done that, and outgrew it.

you're relatively young... get it out of your system... you'll get bored later on.

as for health... that shit's way overrated... people say "well don't you want to watch your kids grow up and have grandkids?" first of all, you never know when you're gonna die... 2nd, kids are the no.1 risk to your fucking health! LOL... I know two guys who had heart attacks when their kids flunked senior year in high school! LOL





this was a really great post. i don't have anything else to add i just wanted to state that since there's no "like" button for posts here :)
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: howardroark on December 23, 2011, 11:44:15 PM
I'd tone down on the drinking and eat healthier... You can still eat tasty. But cook at home and use ingredients with healthy fats (e.g. mayo from grassfed dairy) instead of unhealthy, etc.
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Post by: Meso_z on December 23, 2011, 11:51:07 PM
And because some character on a bb board named "swiper", cruised on 1500test whatever a week and bloodwork came back pretty "healthy" (lol its like giving him the "ticket" to abuse more  :D pathetic) doest mean you can cruise at that too.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: da_vinci on December 24, 2011, 12:39:51 AM
The drugs modify the chemistry in your brain, production of dopamine, serotonin, which make your mood. It is all artificial. Once you get off the drugs, all the artificial effects disapear and you get back to your normal mood. The psychological problems you might have even if hidden, arent solved. Why can t you live without drugs that artificially modify your perception of reality? Why cant you feel good without drugs?
You re going to get addicted to the feeling of artificial well beingness produced by the drugs and wont be able to go off them.

I'm not sure this^^ moron realises that it's exactly like it happens with pretty much everything in life, social status, money, looks, certain kind of activities, that make you fell good, etc, etc... Losing some of these may result in a serious depression. Thus, wouldn't it be best to just ditch everything and go apply to a Buddhism crew in Tibet and forget about the "material world"?

For a thread starter: just stay away from alcohol and other drugs. Srsly, if you are happy that way, try to maximise your health and minimise the damage (if any) by not indulging in that shit. I don't know any ppl who's life was ruined by hormones, and I know plenty like that with alcohol and other shit. Stay away from these. These are the ones that DIRECTLY influence your brain chemistry. Learn to relax without booze and you won't believe how great partying and generally - having a good time, without it can be. Overall - alcohol and an athlete does NOT go together, it just doesn't.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Voland on December 24, 2011, 01:02:19 AM
health is so overrated.
You might be totally healthy and one day you crash with your car, someone shoots you, you get stabbed, you have a stupid accident at home, you get struck by a lighting, whatever...we all check-out sooner or later. Spend you days feeling the best and the happiest.
Btw you're barely on 1g combined. I wouldn't worry at all. My biggest concern would be alcohol. Switch to a beer or wine here and there instead of high º alcohol.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: da_vinci on December 24, 2011, 01:10:09 AM
health is so overrated.
You might be totally healthy and one day you crash with your car, someone shoots you, you get stabbed, you have a stupid accident at home, you get struck by a lighting, whatever...we all check-out sooner or later. Spend you days feeling the best and the happiest.
Btw you're barely on 1g combined. I wouldn't worry at all. My biggest concern would be alcohol. Switch to a beer or wine here and there instead of high º alcohol.
The worst case scenario for me would to be to get old... really old... and sit there and think - "What if...."... Tho' if I'll manage to live to an old age (which I don't want at all. I don't want to be a witness of my own degradation. That's humiliating and very very sad..) there probably will be stuff like "Brain computer" interface, and most old people will spend their days "tuned into the matrix", being there whatever age/place they want.. Hell.. most young people will be doing that too..
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 24, 2011, 04:39:23 AM
 imo your biggest concern would be alcohol very few youths that drink several times a week make it to there 30s with out some sort of serious legal or social repercussions of some sort. It not always the most abusive drinker that gets in trouble its more the social drinkers that are out and about. Like slinpump said his friend swiper crusied 1500 for 12yrs lol I also think body weight has a lot to do with health risks your still only 225 or so of course 250lb men are more prone to heart attack that. The tren I would be a little leary of proably not a whole lot that is a decent does. One more thing by no means to I suggest to quit getting druk 4 times a week lol

I don't really drink as much as I made it sound. And I am a social drinker, I'd never have a beer if I was sitting in my living room by myself. That is just pointless to me.

health is so overrated.
You might be totally healthy and one day you crash with your car, someone shoots you, you get stabbed, you have a stupid accident at home, you get struck by a lighting, whatever...we all check-out sooner or later. Spend you days feeling the best and the happiest.
Btw you're barely on 1g combined. I wouldn't worry at all. My biggest concern would be alcohol. Switch to a beer or wine here and there instead of high º alcohol.

I know I'm not on that much, it's just the duration I am worried about. So far it has been standard length, but I just don't want to stop anytime soon. That's what I don't want to get me.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 24, 2011, 04:48:42 AM
think looooong and hard about what you would be doing if you aren't working out and using tren, prop, and gh...
i'll tell you, you'd probably be 280 lbs at 50% fat not being able to take 2 steps without gasping for air... like 90% of my friends

as you grow up, you get bored of this crap and want to change... that's IF you did it...
if you don't do it and say you'll "focus on health" and shit like that, sooner or later you are going to break down at an old age and say fuck it! i'm doing 3 grams of test and 2 grams of tren with 20 iu gh for a year and accomplish what i never did!... this will probably happen after you changed your life, probably got married and have kids or something like that, and have more important things to worry about instead of getting big and cut... get my point? get it out of the way instead of making it linger and the thought of not knowing "what could have been" haunts you all the time.

lemme tell you... right now, i have $2500 as "excess" for the end of the year... 5 years ago, i would've said "I'm gonna buy a ton of GH with this!!!" ... right now, the thought of GH is "meh"... and i just looked at my wife and said "hey, wanna spend the long weekend in dubai and party all week?"... why? cuz i've been there, done that, and outgrew it.

you're relatively young... get it out of your system... you'll get bored later on.

as for health... that shit's way overrated... people say "well don't you want to watch your kids grow up and have grandkids?" first of all, you never know when you're gonna die... 2nd, kids are the no.1 risk to your fucking health! LOL... I know two guys who had heart attacks when their kids flunked senior year in high school! LOL

Hey bud, nice post. The only part you are wrong about is your first sentence. I was natural for 6 1/2 years and was so anal about eating clean that I was very very low bodyfat at 175lbs. The problem with that is it was fucking miserable. I panicked over an extra bite of oatmeal it was so bad. I still had fun partying but it was a shitty way to live since I wasn't going to improve beyond that point. No way I'd  be a 280lb fatass. My pride would never allow that.

I'm 26 and been doing this (having fun) since 17 years old. I go through 2-3 months at a time where I just stay in mostly and don't feel like doing anything...but then I get an itch and go wild for a few months.

The rest is spot on and along the lines of how I typically think. I just get freaked out when I get bloodwork and see 3-4 things out of the normal range (although slightly)

When you eventually lose your size, I wonder what a woman is going to see in you?  :-\ :-\ Do you have anything else going for you excpt your body?

I was getting plenty before I got huge. I just get more now...I am not an ugly dude with a boring personality
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: gh15 on December 24, 2011, 04:58:46 AM
let me tell you somting so you dont tell me i didnt warn when there was stil time,,

i talk alot about hormones yes,, i myself done many many years of hormones wih out any health problem knock on wood,, i believe bodybuild are invinsible to the hiv virus... i do ,, i believe bodybuild rarely get sick if at all ,, im talking bodybuild of the hgh era..

but! and this is very importent but!

alcohol is the worst THE WORST drug of all! that ! will bring you down ,, if you want to be the last bodybuild that walk out of the gymnasium in age 40 year old and hav ea smile on his face while all your fella bodybuild with problems and either quit or became gutzos,, and the defition of gatzos are fellas who got into health problems and dont have any more the muscle thye used to have aside from the soft gut,, if you dont want to be part of them and want to be the last survivor and retire of bodybuild with pride and peace...you should stop drinking,, i mean it ,,

drinking is what fuck the bodybuild ..not the hormones...it is THE DRINKING! ,, IT IS THE PARTYING,, IT IS THE NARCOTICS ,, the hormones themselves? THEY FUCKING EXTEND YOUR LIFE,,

as i told before,,

i believe bodybuilders on hgh and hormones after a while are  immuned humans ,, imuned to deaseses ,, immuned to HIV ,, i believe that bodybuild may be the strongest humand on planet earth ,, bodybuilders are I N V I N S I B L E ,, only one thing can fuck a bodybuildr...you know what it is ? HIMSELF !

do not drink,, do not do narcotics ,, this is 2 keys to retire with peace and to be the best bodybuild YOU can be
gh15 approved
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 24, 2011, 05:08:12 AM
let me tell you somting so you dont tell me i didnt warn when there was stil time,,

i talk alot about hormones yes,, i myself done many many years of hormones wih out any health problem knock on wood,, i believe bodybuild are invinsible to the hiv virus... i do ,, i believe bodybuild rarely get sick if at all ,, im talking bodybuild of the hgh era..

but! and this is very importent but!

alcohol is the worst THE WORST drug of all! that ! will bring you down ,, if you want to be the last bodybuild that walk out of the gymnasium in age 40 year old and hav ea smile on his face while all your fella bodybuild with problems and either quit or became gutzos,, and the defition of gatzos are fellas who got into health problems and dont have any more the muscle thye used to have aside from the soft gut,, if you dont want to be part of them and want to be the last survivor and retire of bodybuild with pride and peace...you should stop drinking,, i mean it ,,

drinking is what fuck the bodybuild ..not the hormones...it is THE DRINKING! ,, IT IS THE PARTYING,, IT IS THE NARCOTICS ,, the hormones themselves? THEY FUCKING EXTEND YOUR LIFE,,

as i told before,,

i believe bodybuilders on hgh and hormones after a while are  immuned humans ,, imuned to deaseses ,, immuned to HIV ,, i believe that bodybuild may be the strongest humand on planet earth ,, bodybuilders are I N V I N S I B L E ,, only one thing can fuck a bodybuildr...you know what it is ? HIMSELF !

do not drink,, do not do narcotics ,, this is 2 keys to retire with peace and to be the best bodybuild YOU can be
gh15 approved

hey thanks for the input. What makes you think alcohol is so bad? I mean, the whole world drinks regularly and a lot and many live very long. Is it the specific combination of aas and alcohol that makes it so bad?
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Voland on December 24, 2011, 05:12:31 AM
I will have to agree with him.
I haven't had a drink in years  but some weeks ago i had a box of chocolates and some of them had a little liquor in them...uuuughhh nausea, heartburn, dizziness, lightheaded, felt like wanting to go to bed but couldn't sleep tight.
Alcohol is a venom. Some can handle it better than i can but i don't see any benefits from it. Any.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: wes on December 24, 2011, 05:18:43 AM
Thanks njflex and dustin,I feel I`m in pretty good company with the people uberkunt listed!  :)

I feel kind of sorry for him as he is a lonely,miserable,bitter,chronic masterbator............. ...poor guy.

I also want to add to AMD that as long as his drinking doesn`t become habitual,it`s all good,once it`s out of control,seek help.

Personally,I don`t drink,but if I did,I would never do it while running any gear............my liver has had enough abuse over the years.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: da_vinci on December 24, 2011, 05:45:04 AM


I know I'm not on that much, it's just the duration I am worried about. So far it has been standard length, but I just don't want to stop anytime soon. That's what I don't want to get me.

I know a few people who have been "on" for the last 20+ years (more or less.. short breaks, etc..). Healthy as fuck.
 But make sure you'll monitor your health whatever you do...
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on December 24, 2011, 06:06:32 AM
I dont drink alcohol and never have, and dont do coke or anything but in the new year im going to blast so much gear and gh and hope my bloodwork which I get done every 3months remains great
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: WillGrant on December 24, 2011, 06:21:28 AM
Up the dose pussy  :D
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: SF1900 on December 24, 2011, 06:22:15 AM
Who would want to drink 4x a week anyway  ??? ??? Most alcohol tastes like shit. I really don't see the point in drinking. 1)it taste like shit or 2) you act like an idiot if you get drunk.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Meso_z on December 24, 2011, 06:24:10 AM
I dont drink alcohol and never have, and dont do coke or anything but in the new year im going to blast so much gear and gh and hope my bloodwork which I get done every 3months remains great
Are you completely off now Okami?
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: theworm on December 24, 2011, 06:30:41 AM
it all depends man...

Do you want to have kids in the future?

Do you want to be dependend on HRT for the rest of your life?

Do you want to have a heart attack at age 48?

Seems cool now (as it did for me in my 20s), but now in my 30s, I look back and think i was stupid.  I have other goals in my life now (making money, maxing out my 401k, having a family, etc).    I been off for a few years now and actually feel better than before, but more importantly, I lost most of my size.  But i look back and ask if it was worth all that crap just to be 30 pounds heavier?  like now, what do i have to show for it?  Not much, you know?     Hard to have kids for me now, test is low and always feel tired, etc.   Not sure if it is worth it, even though when i was 20, it seemed like my entire world.

point is, just do 2 cycles a year with PCT and you will be fine long term...
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on December 24, 2011, 06:40:39 AM
Are you completely off now Okami?
Just on gh the last four months
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: da_vinci on December 24, 2011, 06:41:44 AM
it all depends man...

Do you want to have kids in the future?

Do you want to be dependend on HRT for the rest of your life?

Do you want to have a heart attack at age 48?

Seems cool now (as it did for me in my 20s), but now in my 30s, I look back and think i was stupid.  I have other goals in my life now (making money, maxing out my 401k, having a family, etc).    I been off for a few years now and actually feel better than before, but more importantly, I lost most of my size.  But i look back and ask if it was worth all that crap just to be 30 pounds heavier?  like now, what do i have to show for it?  Not much, you know?     Hard to have kids for me now, test is low and always feel tired, etc.   Not sure if it is worth it, even though when i was 20, it seemed like my entire world.

point is, just do 2 cycles a year with PCT and you will be fine long term...

To sum it up: you have never laid out a very detailed plan, called "How I'll become the best I can become in terms of bodybuiloding and keep at it no matter what".
 I can't imagine someone being passionate about bodybuilding and suddenly loosing all that passion for stuff like "making money". Bodybuilding is a mental dissease, you don't "heal" from it, it just gets "worse" (while you get better lol) as the time goes on.. Anyone who've achieved greatness in this sport on a long term I know - put bb'ing first and everything else after. It's very very slefish and demanding activity.
 For the thread starter I'd suggest to lay down the priorities well, the long term ones too. For ex. I knew what I want to be/do/achieve in my life since I was about 19-20. The "knowing" was/is very very detailed/exact/clear... When it is like that - it's a lot lower chance you'll suddenly "switch" you priorities drastically at some point of your life (and be sorry for other choices you've made before). That happens for people who are more or less chaotic at their "life scenario".

 Is your goal to be a T.Freeman, who's better at 45 then he was at 25, or do you want to blow your kidneys and become a T.Prince who looks like a death, or maybe you want to be that fella who've never even knew what he'd like to be? Just sit and think well about it.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: jon cole on December 24, 2011, 07:09:31 AM
it all depends man...

Do you want to have kids in the future?

Do you want to be dependend on HRT for the rest of your life?

Do you want to have a heart attack at age 48?

Seems cool now (as it did for me in my 20s), but now in my 30s, I look back and think i was stupid.  I have other goals in my life now (making money, maxing out my 401k, having a family, etc).    I been off for a few years now and actually feel better than before, but more importantly, I lost most of my size.  But i look back and ask if it was worth all that crap just to be 30 pounds heavier?  like now, what do i have to show for it?  Not much, you know?     Hard to have kids for me now, test is low and always feel tired, etc.   Not sure if it is worth it, even though when i was 20, it seemed like my entire world.

point is, just do 2 cycles a year with PCT and you will be fine long term...

amen to that, i didn't screw my natural test with heavy cycle but sacrified a lot of thing for bbing.

Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: jon cole on December 24, 2011, 07:13:51 AM
To sum it up: you have never laid out a very detailed plan, called "How I'll become the best I can become in terms of bodybuiloding and keep at it no matter what".
 I can't imagine someone being passionate about bodybuilding and suddenly loosing all that passion for stuff like "making money". Bodybuilding is a mental dissease, you don't "heal" from it, it just gets "worse" (while you get better lol) as the time goes on.. Anyone who've achieved greatness in this sport on a long term I know - put bb'ing first and everything else after. It's very very slefish and demanding activity.
 For the thread starter I'd suggest to lay down the priorities well, the long term ones too. For ex. I knew what I want to be/do/achieve in my life since I was about 19-20. The "knowing" was/is very very detailed/exact/clear... When it is like that - it's a lot lower chance you'll suddenly "switch" you priorities drastically at some point of your life (and be sorry for other choices you've made before). That happens for people who are more or less chaotic at their "life scenario".

 Is your goal to be a T.Freeman, who's better at 45 then he was at 25, or do you want to blow your kidneys and become a T.Prince who looks like a death, or maybe you want to be that fella who've never even knew what he'd like to be? Just sit and think well about it.


false, one day you wake up, i woke up while watching friend at the gym one day iand i think "they're drug addict, totally insecure, no personnality, all their relation with other people are through their muscle"...


Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: theworm on December 24, 2011, 07:16:51 AM
To sum it up: you have never laid out a very detailed plan, called "How I'll become the best I can become in terms of bodybuiloding and keep at it no matter what".
 I can't imagine someone being passionate about bodybuilding and suddenly loosing all that passion for stuff like "making money". Bodybuilding is a mental dissease, you don't "heal" from it, it just gets "worse" (while you get better lol) as the time goes on.. Anyone who've achieved greatness in this sport on a long term I know - put bb'ing first and everything else after. It's very very slefish and demanding activity.
 For the thread starter I'd suggest to lay down the priorities well, the long term ones too. For ex. I knew what I want to be/do/achieve in my life since I was about 19-20. The "knowing" was/is very very detailed/exact/clear... When it is like that - it's a lot lower chance you'll suddenly "switch" you priorities drastically at some point of your life (and be sorry for other choices you've made before). That happens for people who are more or less chaotic at their "life scenario".

 Is your goal to be a T.Freeman, who's better at 45 then he was at 25, or do you want to blow your kidneys and become a T.Prince who looks like a death, or maybe you want to be that fella who've never even knew what he'd like to be? Just sit and think well about it.

thats true to some degree.  I just train naturally now, still have the passoin, just dont wanna do the drugs.  I mean, i would love to juiec again, but chose not to.  I could do a gram of test a week, but for what?  Rather put that money to work for me (retirement, etc).  I would rather retire in 20-25 years with a few million in the bank and chillin at the beach drinking pina colladas than spending all that money on roids for a temporary result.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Ventura55 on December 24, 2011, 07:32:04 AM
yep I know this site. I have been using a regular doctor for bloodwork but i hate it. They always try to get on their high horse and holier than though nonsense when they have not the slightest clue about steroids.

what's the deal with this though? i want to use it next time. I just buy a hormone panel and then find a location for them to do it confidentially and i get results within 24 hours?

shit just checked. no lab sites anywhere close to me

You can't do it in NY,NJ,RI, you're gonna have to use a lab in CT.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: johnnynoname on December 24, 2011, 07:36:00 AM
look, we have all out lived our respective lives

the lord jesus christ made man only to live up to the age of 35

Hospitals and modern medicine have kept us all alive way too long

I figure, we are all living "on the houses money" so might as well do whatever you want

do drugs
fuck whores
kick a midget
it doesnt' matter
have fun
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Tito24 on December 24, 2011, 07:39:41 AM
i catch up with your mom bout two hours haha.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: notsureifsrs on December 24, 2011, 09:00:47 AM
think looooong and hard about what you would be doing if you aren't working out and using tren, prop, and gh...
i'll tell you, you'd probably be 280 lbs at 50% fat not being able to take 2 steps without gasping for air... like 90% of my friends

as you grow up, you get bored of this crap and want to change... that's IF you did it...
if you don't do it and say you'll "focus on health" and shit like that, sooner or later you are going to break down at an old age and say fuck it! i'm doing 3 grams of test and 2 grams of tren with 20 iu gh for a year and accomplish what i never did!... this will probably happen after you changed your life, probably got married and have kids or something like that, and have more important things to worry about instead of getting big and cut... get my point? get it out of the way instead of making it linger and the thought of not knowing "what could have been" haunts you all the time.

lemme tell you... right now, i have $2500 as "excess" for the end of the year... 5 years ago, i would've said "I'm gonna buy a ton of GH with this!!!" ... right now, the thought of GH is "meh"... and i just looked at my wife and said "hey, wanna spend the long weekend in dubai and party all week?"... why? cuz i've been there, done that, and outgrew it.

you're relatively young... get it out of your system... you'll get bored later on.

as for health... that shit's way overrated... people say "well don't you want to watch your kids grow up and have grandkids?" first of all, you never know when you're gonna die... 2nd, kids are the no.1 risk to your fucking health! LOL... I know two guys who had heart attacks when their kids flunked senior year in high school! LOL

That's a great post!
You put it all together in a such good way and make your posts sound so different.

hey thanks for the input. What makes you think alcohol is so bad? I mean, the whole world drinks regularly and a lot and many live very long. Is it the specific combination of aas and alcohol that makes it so bad?
Stop bringing the 'whole world' as an example, because the last time i checked your 'whole world' is obese, sick and depressed.

just do yourself a favor and stop drinking.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: aesthetics on December 24, 2011, 10:02:09 AM
let me tell you somting so you dont tell me i didnt warn when there was stil time,,

i talk alot about hormones yes,, i myself done many many years of hormones wih out any health problem knock on wood,, i believe bodybuild are invinsible to the hiv virus... i do ,, i believe bodybuild rarely get sick if at all ,, im talking bodybuild of the hgh era..

but! and this is very importent but!

alcohol is the worst THE WORST drug of all! that ! will bring you down ,, if you want to be the last bodybuild that walk out of the gymnasium in age 40 year old and hav ea smile on his face while all your fella bodybuild with problems and either quit or became gutzos,, and the defition of gatzos are fellas who got into health problems and dont have any more the muscle thye used to have aside from the soft gut,, if you dont want to be part of them and want to be the last survivor and retire of bodybuild with pride and peace...you should stop drinking,, i mean it ,,

drinking is what fuck the bodybuild ..not the hormones...it is THE DRINKING! ,, IT IS THE PARTYING,, IT IS THE NARCOTICS ,, the hormones themselves? THEY FUCKING EXTEND YOUR LIFE,,

as i told before,,

i believe bodybuilders on hgh and hormones after a while are  immuned humans ,, imuned to deaseses ,, immuned to HIV ,, i believe that bodybuild may be the strongest humand on planet earth ,, bodybuilders are I N V I N S I B L E ,, only one thing can fuck a bodybuildr...you know what it is ? HIMSELF !

do not drink,, do not do narcotics ,, this is 2 keys to retire with peace and to be the best bodybuild YOU can be
gh15 approved

see, this is what i said before, i hope now that gh15 said it you will believe me when i say alcohol is the worst of what you're doing. the junk food, probably not if you're running tren since it just gets burned right up.

drop the alcohol and take up smoking weed instead, lol
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: merrill1973 on December 24, 2011, 10:07:31 AM
thats true to some degree.  I just train naturally now, still have the passoin, just dont wanna do the drugs.  I mean, i would love to juiec again, but chose not to.  I could do a gram of test a week, but for what?  Rather put that money to work for me (retirement, etc).  I would rather retire in 20-25 years with a few million in the bank and chillin at the beach drinking pina colladas than spending all that money on roids for a temporary result.

But a gram of test a week is only going to cost, what 20 bucks a week?  Youre not going to retire a millionare saving 20 bucks a week...  ???
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: da_vinci on December 24, 2011, 12:42:02 PM

false, one day you wake up, i woke up while watching friend at the gym one day iand i think "they're drug addict, totally insecure, no personnality, all their relation with other people are through their muscle"...




It's sad that you saw ppl like that. I know serious bb'ers who are very very clever/high IQ and overall - very interesting people.. You haven't been a true bb'er, sorry.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: da_vinci on December 24, 2011, 12:43:08 PM
thats true to some degree.  I just train naturally now, still have the passoin, just dont wanna do the drugs.  I mean, i would love to juiec again, but chose not to.  I could do a gram of test a week, but for what?  Rather put that money to work for me (retirement, etc).  I would rather retire in 20-25 years with a few million in the bank and chillin at the beach drinking pina colladas than spending all that money on roids for a temporary result.

It's all temporary my friend. But it's your priorities, I can't say anything against even if I'd like to. '
 I guess bb'ing is exactly a contrary stuff, it's about being here and now..
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: flinstones1 on December 24, 2011, 02:06:58 PM
see, this is what i said before, i hope now that gh15 said it you will believe me when i say alcohol is the worst of what you're doing. the junk food, probably not if you're running tren since it just gets burned right up.

drop the alcohol and take up smoking weed instead, lol

I personally enjoy eating clean. I like vegetables, lean cuts of meat, fish,etc. Even if I was on 15iu of hgh year round, and could eat like shit and look awesome  I would still eat healthy...I still would eat chicken,brocolli,fish,spinach,etc. I just enjoy it, my parents always raised me eating healthy foods so it "stuck" if you will. If you were raised on pop tarts as a kid your probably not gonna be fond of fish and spinach.  Some just enjoy the health aspect that comes with bodybuilding. Kind of like when gh15 made fun of branch in that video shoulder pressing 4 plates ...like it matters with the drugs he takes (:...I'm sure Branch knows this, he just likes to train hard.  Also  I have a hard time believing Jay brings his chicken and rice everywhere cause he thinks it will make a difference at the end of the day,,he just enjoys it...but again he enjoys brushing his teeth 10 times a day lol

OP- If eating like shit, looking great, partying hard is what you enjoy doing then do it man fuck the haters. I wouldn't touch  alchohol but I'm not you and this is your life....do whatever make you happy my friend ;)
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: gh15 on December 24, 2011, 02:22:20 PM
hey thanks for the input. What makes you think alcohol is so bad? I mean, the whole world drinks regularly and a lot and many live very long. Is it the specific combination of aas and alcohol that makes it so bad?

corect,, the specific combination will kill you ,, and if not kill you will get you out of bodybuild like injured animal and will leave you an injured animal,, you may look ok on the out but you will be in and out hospitals trying to figure out what sup ,, and on TONS of prescribed medications,, i started with big group of fellas ...now day only me and few other left,, many of them did narcotics ,, drank ,, and on top of that did what it take to become top amatuer and pro..this will take you down in this combo,, the ones of us who survived HEALTHY are the ones who didnt drink and didnt do narcotics

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: L.L on December 24, 2011, 02:54:21 PM
I know a few people who have been "on" for the last 20+ years (more or less.. short breaks, etc..). Healthy as fuck.
 But make sure you'll monitor your health whatever you do...

exactly and so do I...But they are also responsible individuals..
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Voland on December 24, 2011, 03:00:50 PM
I've been "on" for 10 weeks. The last 6 weeks have been the best ever. I felt in love with EQ and i have the funds to say on for the whole 2012 and spice it up with something else. Did i listen to those who said "run just test for 10 weeks in your 1st cycle" no. Fuck them they can keep their 10 week cycles. Im staying on as long as i have the money. And considering the price of Eq, test (and how low im gonna run it) and perhaps some masteron and maybe some dbol. I'll be staying on for a long long time. If you feel better on them than without them why stopping?
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: arce1988 on December 24, 2011, 03:08:34 PM
 You just jinxed yourself kid
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Growth NOOB on December 24, 2011, 07:37:53 PM
Hey bro,

I could have made this exact thread a couple months ago.  In fact, I was going to but my membership here wasn't approved yet. 

We are in very similar circumstances physique wise and steroid usage.  A few months ago was my first foray into hgh.  I had come off a test/tren cycle and started at 10iu ed, along with a moderate 250mg test. I did that for about 3 months and got incredible results.  I had made up my mind that I was NEVER going to come off. It was just too good.  I wanted to look and feel like this for the rest of my life.

Well, after about 3 months that changed.  I started a new job and had to leave the country for 3 weeks of training.  In the last few minutes before I left, I decided to not take anything with me.  That decision ultimately led to me not training, juicing, or using gh for almost 10 weeks. 

However, I must admit, I felt fine those 2+ months.  Whether it was the hcg or the gh I had been running prior to coming off, it really wasn't that bad.  Sure, physically I lost a lot, but the most important part, mentally, I really didn't feel bad at all.  So all in all, I was on for about 7-8 months (my longest "cycle" by far) and the off time wasn't bad.  I hoped back on and plan on running a heavy, heavy "cycle".  I want to run 15iu-20iu gh, 750mg test, 1000mg tren (test and tren are obv per week).

Anyway, good luck my man.  Keep me updated on how you feel.  If you ever want to shoot the shit, hit me up.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: aesthetics on December 24, 2011, 09:01:34 PM
I personally enjoy eating clean. I like vegetables, lean cuts of meat, fish,etc. Even if I was on 15iu of hgh year round, and could eat like shit and look awesome  I would still eat healthy...I still would eat chicken,brocolli,fish,spinach,etc. I just enjoy it, my parents always raised me eating healthy foods so it "stuck" if you will. If you were raised on pop tarts as a kid your probably not gonna be fond of fish and spinach.  Some just enjoy the health aspect that comes with bodybuilding. Kind of like when gh15 made fun of branch in that video shoulder pressing 4 plates ...like it matters with the drugs he takes (:...I'm sure Branch knows this, he just likes to train hard.  Also  I have a hard time believing Jay brings his chicken and rice everywhere cause he thinks it will make a difference at the end of the day,,he just enjoys it...but again he enjoys brushing his teeth 10 times a day lol

OP- If eating like shit, looking great, partying hard is what you enjoy doing then do it man fuck the haters. I wouldn't touch  alchohol but I'm not you and this is your life....do whatever make you happy my friend ;)

well, that food you listed is delicious, i wouldn't really say it's "clean" food but rather quality food, you know? the problem with eating quality food, and quality cuts of meat that taste well without unhealthy amounts of sodium, fats, and sugars, is that they take a lot of attention to detail, and cooking knowledge to prepare properly - as well as costing a decent amount. 

i'm too damn lazy, i'd rather just throw a cheap burger patty on a grill and then eat the damn thing with one hand like a rice cake lol
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: da_vinci on December 25, 2011, 01:30:07 AM
exactly and so do I...But they are also responsible individuals..

Yes. And most importantly, as gh15 says - they haven't ever consumed alcohol (I don't count a glass of wine or whiskey once in half a year.. but seeing them getting drunk - never ever..) or other drugs.
 I'd upload pics of some of these guys, they look amazing being close to 50 currently, but I can't do that out of respect, as it's kind of disrespectful to put up pics of people without them knowng..

p.s. - generally, in regards to comming off after a long time (due to circumstances or just to have a break) - prepare yourself psychologically that you'll look/ffel worse for some time. If you are successful at that preparation - it WON'T be an issue. It's not crystal meth or some shit lol..
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 25, 2011, 04:41:30 AM
I need some opinions here on health. I know gh15 says running steroids forever won't kill you, but come on...

Right now I have fallen into a trap where I just feel like everything is perfect for me right now. I look incredible, I get more pussy now than I ever could have dreamt of, I go out and drink alcohol 4x per week and eat like crap and look better every day, my whole mood is great, my perspective on life is great, I am always positive and upbeat about everything, etc.

However, the main reason for all of this is the following
70mg test prop every day (490mg per week)
80mg tren ace every day (560mg per week)
5iu hgh every day

I have been doing this 11 weeks now and I just dont want to ever stop. It is just too good to be true right now.

I have NEVER done any type of drug or narcotic by the way...

Realistically, how long can I keep this up while keeping my health in check? Would it be wise to stop for maybe 4 weeks at a time (while staying on a low dose test) just to keep safe and then. It is just so hard to stop what I am doing and jeopardize how great everything is going for me right now

honest advice please. What would you guys do in this situation?

you need a reality check. the reality is you are dependent upon your own experimation you have no clue how healthy or unhealthy it can be. i see you are trolling but perhaps your judgement is clouded

dont risk your life

you are better of risking at gambling
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: jon cole on December 25, 2011, 04:59:19 AM
It's sad that you saw ppl like that. I know serious bb'ers who are very very clever/high IQ and overall - very interesting people.. You haven't been a true bb'er, sorry.

that just people i know at gym are not clever.

my left shoulder and right quad are actually injuried, i'm only training back -arm -and deadlift.
10 years ago it would have been insuportable, now i just take time off gym, and enjoy life.

i'm a true bbder, from 19 to 26 y.o i train 5/6 time a week, 2 hours a day, there was nothing else in my life.
then i found a great job, a girl, new priorities,

i'm still a bber, a kind of bber who consider the gym as a church and training like a kind of mystic experience.

i'm dedicated enough to spend 15 hours at the gym e.w, but not enough to run 100 mg of tren ace e.d for month.
That doesn't make me a bad bber.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: deceiver on December 25, 2011, 05:20:26 AM
add fava beans to the stack

and a nice chianti
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: da_vinci on December 25, 2011, 05:43:41 AM


i'm dedicated enough to spend 15 hours at the gym e.w, but not enough to run 100 mg of tren ace e.d for month.
That doesn't make me a bad bber.

Well my bad then, I assumed you ditched bb'ing as a priority at all..
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 25, 2011, 05:50:04 AM
Hey bro,

I could have made this exact thread a couple months ago.  In fact, I was going to but my membership here wasn't approved yet. 

We are in very similar circumstances physique wise and steroid usage.  A few months ago was my first foray into hgh.  I had come off a test/tren cycle and started at 10iu ed, along with a moderate 250mg test. I did that for about 3 months and got incredible results.  I had made up my mind that I was NEVER going to come off. It was just too good.  I wanted to look and feel like this for the rest of my life.

Well, after about 3 months that changed.  I started a new job and had to leave the country for 3 weeks of training.  In the last few minutes before I left, I decided to not take anything with me.  That decision ultimately led to me not training, juicing, or using gh for almost 10 weeks. 

However, I must admit, I felt fine those 2+ months.  Whether it was the hcg or the gh I had been running prior to coming off, it really wasn't that bad.  Sure, physically I lost a lot, but the most important part, mentally, I really didn't feel bad at all.  So all in all, I was on for about 7-8 months (my longest "cycle" by far) and the off time wasn't bad.  I hoped back on and plan on running a heavy, heavy "cycle".  I want to run 15iu-20iu gh, 750mg test, 1000mg tren (test and tren are obv per week).

Anyway, good luck my man.  Keep me updated on how you feel.  If you ever want to shoot the shit, hit me up.

cool story bro. I don't have any plans on leaving the country anytime soon. If I did, it would be for no more than a week for a vacation, which obviously isn't a big deal. 2 months off would suck though. I'd rather not see what that is like. I'm 11 1/2 weeks in and will keep going for the foreseeable future. Too many compliments from females makes me worried about stopping, ya know? But as for the drinking thing, I really don't drink that much. 1-2x per week max and always a varying amount of booze. Just lately it's been a little more. All these holiday parties and stuff this time of year. I'm more worried about all the money I've been spending.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Tito24 on December 25, 2011, 05:51:40 AM
The U.S.military has certainly tested subjects (and in many cases without their knowledge) with LSD and LSD-like substances; hoping to achieve a more efficient, human killing-machine.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 25, 2011, 05:56:24 AM
The U.S.military has certainly tested subjects (and in many cases without their knowledge) with LSD and LSD-like substances; hoping to achieve a more efficient, human killing-machine.

now this is what I wanted to hear. I'm going to take up LSD and let you know how it is
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Tito24 on December 25, 2011, 06:00:03 AM
yes, dolphins have large brains that rival the human brain in size.
they may naturally function on these upper-mind levels similar to the LSD experience. Dolphins could view the world in moving, laser-bright colors and little (geometric) patterns...in constant motion...with an elongated sense of time. Their doors of perception are opened very wide alphamaledawg.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Borracho on December 25, 2011, 06:05:04 AM
The U.S.military has certainly tested subjects (and in many cases without their knowledge) with LSD and LSD-like substances; hoping to achieve a more efficient, human killing-machine.


Didn't quite work the way they had hoped 
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Arnold jr on December 25, 2011, 06:30:42 AM
The drugs modify the chemistry in your brain, production of dopamine, serotonin, which make your mood. It is all artificial. Once you get off the drugs, all the artificial effects disapear and you get back to your normal mood. The psychological problems you might have even if hidden, arent solved. Why can t you live without drugs that artificially modify your perception of reality? Why cant you feel good without drugs?
You re going to get addicted to the feeling of artificial well beingness produced by the drugs and wont be able to go off them.

American Medical Association at the hearings leading to the Steroid Control Act of 1990 stated there was no evidence anabolic steroids had any effect on mental addiction, nor did they alter the mental state of an individual in anyway comparable to controlled narcotics, and based on this evidence, or lack thereof stated "we vehemently oppose the ban."

In a 1996 study done by the New England Journal of Medicine, 20 men ages 19-49 were given 600mg of Testosterone-Enanthate per wk for 10wks. At the end of the study, the results on mood inventory stated there were no apparent changes, lending to the conclusion that there is no true mental effect or that the effects are so small they cannot be measured.

There are countless other examples such as these.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: da_vinci on December 25, 2011, 06:55:23 AM
cool story bro. I don't have any plans on leaving the country anytime soon. If I did, it would be for no more than a week for a vacation, which obviously isn't a big deal. 2 months off would suck though. I'd rather not see what that is like. I'm 11 1/2 weeks in and will keep going for the foreseeable future. Too many compliments from females makes me worried about stopping, ya know? But as for the drinking thing, I really don't drink that much. 1-2x per week max and always a varying amount of booze. Just lately it's been a little more. All these holiday parties and stuff this time of year. I'm more worried about all the money I've been spending.

Ditch the alco man. It's not worth it. Develop a "natural high" and you won't ever need that shit to make you feel "happy" or "relaxed". You'll be happny all the time anyway, when you'll look and feel like a million bucks.
 
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on December 25, 2011, 07:01:51 AM
You are young and in your prime... enjoy it as much as possible.  

Unfortunately, it won't last because what you are feeling is 100% phony, induced by drugs/hormones.  The pharmacy will run out at some point... you will crash and feel worse than you did before you started taking the drugs.  

Get suicide hotline number now and program it into your cell... you may need it later.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 25, 2011, 08:18:07 AM
Ditch the alco man. It's not worth it. Develop a "natural high" and you won't ever need that shit to make you feel "happy" or "relaxed". You'll be happny all the time anyway, when you'll look and feel like a million bucks.
 

that is NEVER going to happen. I'd give up anabolics before alcohol on social occasions
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Natural Man on December 25, 2011, 08:22:49 AM
You need Faith to find who you truly are and to heal your soul's wounds. Then you wont need steroids and alcohol anymore to exist.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 25, 2011, 08:24:06 AM
You need Faith to find who you truly are and to heal your soul's wounds. Then you wont need steroids and alcohol anymore.

lol
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Growth NOOB on December 25, 2011, 08:52:38 AM
American Medical Association at the hearings leading to the Steroid Control Act of 1990 stated there was no evidence anabolic steroids had any effect on mental addiction, nor did they alter the mental state of an individual in anyway comparable to controlled narcotics, and based on this evidence, or lack thereof stated "we vehemently oppose the ban."

In a 1996 study done by the New England Journal of Medicine, 20 men ages 19-49 were given 600mg of Testosterone-Enanthate per wk for 10wks. At the end of the study, the results on mood inventory stated there were no apparent changes, lending to the conclusion that there is no true mental effect or that the effects are so small they cannot be measured.

There are countless other examples such as these.

Come on man.   Have you ever run a cycle or even used testosterone?  Steroids absolutely alter your mental state and mood. 

Can you honestly say you feel no difference when you are on and off?
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: LittleJ on December 25, 2011, 08:55:29 AM
American Medical Association at the hearings leading to the Steroid Control Act of 1990 stated there was no evidence anabolic steroids had any effect on mental addiction, nor did they alter the mental state of an individual in anyway comparable to controlled narcotics, and based on this evidence, or lack thereof stated "we vehemently oppose the ban."

In a 1996 study done by the New England Journal of Medicine, 20 men ages 19-49 were given 600mg of Testosterone-Enanthate per wk for 10wks. At the end of the study, the results on mood inventory stated there were no apparent changes, lending to the conclusion that there is no true mental effect or that the effects are so small they cannot be measured.

There are countless other examples such as these.

I agree with Arnold. That other mod don't know what he is talking about.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: Wiggs on December 25, 2011, 08:59:17 AM
The only PED to ever alter my mood was tren thats why I dont touch it and I was only using 75 mg eod but I was really young 22 i.believe. 32 now.
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 25, 2011, 09:02:40 AM
The only PED to ever alter my mood was tren thats why I dont touch it and I was only using 75 mg eod but I was really young 22 i.believe. 32 now.

I think tren makes me in a better mood for the simple fact I can look better on slightly less effort
Title: Re: Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on December 25, 2011, 10:20:00 AM
You need Faith to find who you truly are and to heal your soul's wounds. Then you wont need steroids and alcohol anymore to exist.
I dunno man, I found myself and I wake up every single day thankful for life and what I have. Granted I don't drink and never have but I'm going back on gear in new year cos I like it and I'm responsible with my health