Is this "perfect life" going to eventually catch up to me?

[aesthetics]

if i won the lottery i wouldn't spend it on a single other person besides myself, real talk.

[SF1900]

When you eventually lose your size, I wonder what a woman is going to see in you?   Do you have anything else going for you excpt your body?

[buselmo]

think looooong and hard about what you would be doing if you aren't working out and using tren, prop, and gh...
i'll tell you, you'd probably be 280 lbs at 50% fat not being able to take 2 steps without gasping for air... like 90% of my friends

as you grow up, you get bored of this crap and want to change... that's IF you did it...
if you don't do it and say you'll "focus on health" and shit like that, sooner or later you are going to break down at an old age and say fuck it! i'm doing 3 grams of test and 2 grams of tren with 20 iu gh for a year and accomplish what i never did!... this will probably happen after you changed your life, probably got married and have kids or something like that, and have more important things to worry about instead of getting big and cut... get my point? get it out of the way instead of making it linger and the thought of not knowing "what could have been" haunts you all the time.

lemme tell you... right now, i have $2500 as "excess" for the end of the year... 5 years ago, i would've said "I'm gonna buy a ton of GH with this!!!" ... right now, the thought of GH is "meh"... and i just looked at my wife and said "hey, wanna spend the long weekend in dubai and party all week?"... why? cuz i've been there, done that, and outgrew it.

you're relatively young... get it out of your system... you'll get bored later on.

as for health... that shit's way overrated... people say "well don't you want to watch your kids grow up and have grandkids?" first of all, you never know when you're gonna die... 2nd, kids are the no.1 risk to your fucking health! LOL... I know two guys who had heart attacks when their kids flunked senior year in high school! LOL

[Meso_z]

TRANSLATION: I'm an addict.

You could have said it in 3 words.

[aesthetics]

think looooong and hard about what you would be doing if you aren't working out and using tren, prop, and gh...
i'll tell you, you'd probably be 280 lbs at 50% fat not being able to take 2 steps without gasping for air... like 90% of my friends

as you grow up, you get bored of this crap and want to change... that's IF you did it...
if you don't do it and say you'll "focus on health" and shit like that, sooner or later you are going to break down at an old age and say fuck it! i'm doing 3 grams of test and 2 grams of tren with 20 iu gh for a year and accomplish what i never did!... this will probably happen after you changed your life, probably got married and have kids or something like that, and have more important things to worry about instead of getting big and cut... get my point? get it out of the way instead of making it linger and the thought of not knowing "what could have been" haunts you all the time.

lemme tell you... right now, i have $2500 as "excess" for the end of the year... 5 years ago, i would've said "I'm gonna buy a ton of GH with this!!!" ... right now, the thought of GH is "meh"... and i just looked at my wife and said "hey, wanna spend the long weekend in dubai and party all week?"... why? cuz i've been there, done that, and outgrew it.

you're relatively young... get it out of your system... you'll get bored later on.

as for health... that shit's way overrated... people say "well don't you want to watch your kids grow up and have grandkids?" first of all, you never know when you're gonna die... 2nd, kids are the no.1 risk to your fucking health! LOL... I know two guys who had heart attacks when their kids flunked senior year in high school! LOL

this was a really great post. i don't have anything else to add i just wanted to state that since there's no "like" button for posts here

[howardroark]

I'd tone down on the drinking and eat healthier... You can still eat tasty. But cook at home and use ingredients with healthy fats (e.g. mayo from grassfed dairy) instead of unhealthy, etc.

[Meso_z]

And because some character on a bb board named "swiper", cruised on 1500test whatever a week and bloodwork came back pretty "healthy" (lol its like giving him the "ticket" to abuse more  pathetic) doest mean you can cruise at that too.

[da_vinci]

The drugs modify the chemistry in your brain, production of dopamine, serotonin, which make your mood. It is all artificial. Once you get off the drugs, all the artificial effects disapear and you get back to your normal mood. The psychological problems you might have even if hidden, arent solved. Why can t you live without drugs that artificially modify your perception of reality? Why cant you feel good without drugs?
You re going to get addicted to the feeling of artificial well beingness produced by the drugs and wont be able to go off them.

I'm not sure this^^ moron realises that it's exactly like it happens with pretty much everything in life, social status, money, looks, certain kind of activities, that make you fell good, etc, etc... Losing some of these may result in a serious depression. Thus, wouldn't it be best to just ditch everything and go apply to a Buddhism crew in Tibet and forget about the "material world"?

For a thread starter: just stay away from alcohol and other drugs. Srsly, if you are happy that way, try to maximise your health and minimise the damage (if any) by not indulging in that shit. I don't know any ppl who's life was ruined by hormones, and I know plenty like that with alcohol and other shit. Stay away from these. These are the ones that DIRECTLY influence your brain chemistry. Learn to relax without booze and you won't believe how great partying and generally - having a good time, without it can be. Overall - alcohol and an athlete does NOT go together, it just doesn't.

[Voland]

health is so overrated.
You might be totally healthy and one day you crash with your car, someone shoots you, you get stabbed, you have a stupid accident at home, you get struck by a lighting, whatever...we all check-out sooner or later. Spend you days feeling the best and the happiest.
Btw you're barely on 1g combined. I wouldn't worry at all. My biggest concern would be alcohol. Switch to a beer or wine here and there instead of high º alcohol.

[da_vinci]

health is so overrated.
You might be totally healthy and one day you crash with your car, someone shoots you, you get stabbed, you have a stupid accident at home, you get struck by a lighting, whatever...we all check-out sooner or later. Spend you days feeling the best and the happiest.
Btw you're barely on 1g combined. I wouldn't worry at all. My biggest concern would be alcohol. Switch to a beer or wine here and there instead of high º alcohol.

The worst case scenario for me would to be to get old... really old... and sit there and think - "What if...."... Tho' if I'll manage to live to an old age (which I don't want at all. I don't want to be a witness of my own degradation. That's humiliating and very very sad..) there probably will be stuff like "Brain computer" interface, and most old people will spend their days "tuned into the matrix", being there whatever age/place they want.. Hell.. most young people will be doing that too..

[AlphaMaleDawg]

 imo your biggest concern would be alcohol very few youths that drink several times a week make it to there 30s with out some sort of serious legal or social repercussions of some sort. It not always the most abusive drinker that gets in trouble its more the social drinkers that are out and about. Like slinpump said his friend swiper crusied 1500 for 12yrs lol I also think body weight has a lot to do with health risks your still only 225 or so of course 250lb men are more prone to heart attack that. The tren I would be a little leary of proably not a whole lot that is a decent does. One more thing by no means to I suggest to quit getting druk 4 times a week lol

I don't really drink as much as I made it sound. And I am a social drinker, I'd never have a beer if I was sitting in my living room by myself. That is just pointless to me.

health is so overrated.
You might be totally healthy and one day you crash with your car, someone shoots you, you get stabbed, you have a stupid accident at home, you get struck by a lighting, whatever...we all check-out sooner or later. Spend you days feeling the best and the happiest.
Btw you're barely on 1g combined. I wouldn't worry at all. My biggest concern would be alcohol. Switch to a beer or wine here and there instead of high º alcohol.

I know I'm not on that much, it's just the duration I am worried about. So far it has been standard length, but I just don't want to stop anytime soon. That's what I don't want to get me.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

think looooong and hard about what you would be doing if you aren't working out and using tren, prop, and gh...
i'll tell you, you'd probably be 280 lbs at 50% fat not being able to take 2 steps without gasping for air... like 90% of my friends

as you grow up, you get bored of this crap and want to change... that's IF you did it...
if you don't do it and say you'll "focus on health" and shit like that, sooner or later you are going to break down at an old age and say fuck it! i'm doing 3 grams of test and 2 grams of tren with 20 iu gh for a year and accomplish what i never did!... this will probably happen after you changed your life, probably got married and have kids or something like that, and have more important things to worry about instead of getting big and cut... get my point? get it out of the way instead of making it linger and the thought of not knowing "what could have been" haunts you all the time.

lemme tell you... right now, i have $2500 as "excess" for the end of the year... 5 years ago, i would've said "I'm gonna buy a ton of GH with this!!!" ... right now, the thought of GH is "meh"... and i just looked at my wife and said "hey, wanna spend the long weekend in dubai and party all week?"... why? cuz i've been there, done that, and outgrew it.

you're relatively young... get it out of your system... you'll get bored later on.

as for health... that shit's way overrated... people say "well don't you want to watch your kids grow up and have grandkids?" first of all, you never know when you're gonna die... 2nd, kids are the no.1 risk to your fucking health! LOL... I know two guys who had heart attacks when their kids flunked senior year in high school! LOL

Hey bud, nice post. The only part you are wrong about is your first sentence. I was natural for 6 1/2 years and was so anal about eating clean that I was very very low bodyfat at 175lbs. The problem with that is it was fucking miserable. I panicked over an extra bite of oatmeal it was so bad. I still had fun partying but it was a shitty way to live since I wasn't going to improve beyond that point. No way I'd  be a 280lb fatass. My pride would never allow that.

I'm 26 and been doing this (having fun) since 17 years old. I go through 2-3 months at a time where I just stay in mostly and don't feel like doing anything...but then I get an itch and go wild for a few months.

The rest is spot on and along the lines of how I typically think. I just get freaked out when I get bloodwork and see 3-4 things out of the normal range (although slightly)

When you eventually lose your size, I wonder what a woman is going to see in you?  Do you have anything else going for you excpt your body?

I was getting plenty before I got huge. I just get more now...I am not an ugly dude with a boring personality

[gh15]

let me tell you somting so you dont tell me i didnt warn when there was stil time,,

i talk alot about hormones yes,, i myself done many many years of hormones wih out any health problem knock on wood,, i believe bodybuild are invinsible to the hiv virus... i do ,, i believe bodybuild rarely get sick if at all ,, im talking bodybuild of the hgh era..

but! and this is very importent but!

alcohol is the worst THE WORST drug of all! that ! will bring you down ,, if you want to be the last bodybuild that walk out of the gymnasium in age 40 year old and hav ea smile on his face while all your fella bodybuild with problems and either quit or became gutzos,, and the defition of gatzos are fellas who got into health problems and dont have any more the muscle thye used to have aside from the soft gut,, if you dont want to be part of them and want to be the last survivor and retire of bodybuild with pride and peace...you should stop drinking,, i mean it ,,

drinking is what fuck the bodybuild ..not the hormones...it is THE DRINKING! ,, IT IS THE PARTYING,, IT IS THE NARCOTICS ,, the hormones themselves? THEY FUCKING EXTEND YOUR LIFE,,

as i told before,,

i believe bodybuilders on hgh and hormones after a while are  immuned humans ,, imuned to deaseses ,, immuned to HIV ,, i believe that bodybuild may be the strongest humand on planet earth ,, bodybuilders are I N V I N S I B L E ,, only one thing can fuck a bodybuildr...you know what it is ? HIMSELF !

do not drink,, do not do narcotics ,, this is 2 keys to retire with peace and to be the best bodybuild YOU can be
gh15 approved

[AlphaMaleDawg]

let me tell you somting so you dont tell me i didnt warn when there was stil time,,

i talk alot about hormones yes,, i myself done many many years of hormones wih out any health problem knock on wood,, i believe bodybuild are invinsible to the hiv virus... i do ,, i believe bodybuild rarely get sick if at all ,, im talking bodybuild of the hgh era..

but! and this is very importent but!

alcohol is the worst THE WORST drug of all! that ! will bring you down ,, if you want to be the last bodybuild that walk out of the gymnasium in age 40 year old and hav ea smile on his face while all your fella bodybuild with problems and either quit or became gutzos,, and the defition of gatzos are fellas who got into health problems and dont have any more the muscle thye used to have aside from the soft gut,, if you dont want to be part of them and want to be the last survivor and retire of bodybuild with pride and peace...you should stop drinking,, i mean it ,,

drinking is what fuck the bodybuild ..not the hormones...it is THE DRINKING! ,, IT IS THE PARTYING,, IT IS THE NARCOTICS ,, the hormones themselves? THEY FUCKING EXTEND YOUR LIFE,,

as i told before,,

i believe bodybuilders on hgh and hormones after a while are  immuned humans ,, imuned to deaseses ,, immuned to HIV ,, i believe that bodybuild may be the strongest humand on planet earth ,, bodybuilders are I N V I N S I B L E ,, only one thing can fuck a bodybuildr...you know what it is ? HIMSELF !

do not drink,, do not do narcotics ,, this is 2 keys to retire with peace and to be the best bodybuild YOU can be
gh15 approved

hey thanks for the input. What makes you think alcohol is so bad? I mean, the whole world drinks regularly and a lot and many live very long. Is it the specific combination of aas and alcohol that makes it so bad?

[Voland]

I will have to agree with him.
I haven't had a drink in years  but some weeks ago i had a box of chocolates and some of them had a little liquor in them...uuuughhh nausea, heartburn, dizziness, lightheaded, felt like wanting to go to bed but couldn't sleep tight.
Alcohol is a venom. Some can handle it better than i can but i don't see any benefits from it. Any.

[wes]

Thanks njflex and dustin,I feel I`m in pretty good company with the people uberkunt listed!  

I feel kind of sorry for him as he is a lonely,miserable,bitter,chronic masterbator............. ...poor guy.

I also want to add to AMD that as long as his drinking doesn`t become habitual,it`s all good,once it`s out of control,seek help.

Personally,I don`t drink,but if I did,I would never do it while running any gear............my liver has had enough abuse over the years.

[da_vinci]

I know I'm not on that much, it's just the duration I am worried about. So far it has been standard length, but I just don't want to stop anytime soon. That's what I don't want to get me.

I know a few people who have been "on" for the last 20+ years (more or less.. short breaks, etc..). Healthy as fuck.
 But make sure you'll monitor your health whatever you do...

[The Wizard of Truth]

I dont drink alcohol and never have, and dont do coke or anything but in the new year im going to blast so much gear and gh and hope my bloodwork which I get done every 3months remains great

[WillGrant]

Up the dose pussy 

[SF1900]

Who would want to drink 4x a week anyway   Most alcohol tastes like shit. I really don't see the point in drinking. 1)it taste like shit or 2) you act like an idiot if you get drunk.

[Meso_z]

I dont drink alcohol and never have, and dont do coke or anything but in the new year im going to blast so much gear and gh and hope my bloodwork which I get done every 3months remains great

Are you completely off now Okami?

[theworm]

it all depends man...

Do you want to have kids in the future?

Do you want to be dependend on HRT for the rest of your life?

Do you want to have a heart attack at age 48?

Seems cool now (as it did for me in my 20s), but now in my 30s, I look back and think i was stupid.  I have other goals in my life now (making money, maxing out my 401k, having a family, etc).    I been off for a few years now and actually feel better than before, but more importantly, I lost most of my size.  But i look back and ask if it was worth all that crap just to be 30 pounds heavier?  like now, what do i have to show for it?  Not much, you know?     Hard to have kids for me now, test is low and always feel tired, etc.   Not sure if it is worth it, even though when i was 20, it seemed like my entire world.

point is, just do 2 cycles a year with PCT and you will be fine long term...

[The Wizard of Truth]

Are you completely off now Okami?

Just on gh the last four months

[da_vinci]

it all depends man...

Do you want to have kids in the future?

Do you want to be dependend on HRT for the rest of your life?

Do you want to have a heart attack at age 48?

Seems cool now (as it did for me in my 20s), but now in my 30s, I look back and think i was stupid.  I have other goals in my life now (making money, maxing out my 401k, having a family, etc).    I been off for a few years now and actually feel better than before, but more importantly, I lost most of my size.  But i look back and ask if it was worth all that crap just to be 30 pounds heavier?  like now, what do i have to show for it?  Not much, you know?     Hard to have kids for me now, test is low and always feel tired, etc.   Not sure if it is worth it, even though when i was 20, it seemed like my entire world.

point is, just do 2 cycles a year with PCT and you will be fine long term...

To sum it up: you have never laid out a very detailed plan, called "How I'll become the best I can become in terms of bodybuiloding and keep at it no matter what".
 I can't imagine someone being passionate about bodybuilding and suddenly loosing all that passion for stuff like "making money". Bodybuilding is a mental dissease, you don't "heal" from it, it just gets "worse" (while you get better lol) as the time goes on.. Anyone who've achieved greatness in this sport on a long term I know - put bb'ing first and everything else after. It's very very slefish and demanding activity.
 For the thread starter I'd suggest to lay down the priorities well, the long term ones too. For ex. I knew what I want to be/do/achieve in my life since I was about 19-20. The "knowing" was/is very very detailed/exact/clear... When it is like that - it's a lot lower chance you'll suddenly "switch" you priorities drastically at some point of your life (and be sorry for other choices you've made before). That happens for people who are more or less chaotic at their "life scenario".

 Is your goal to be a T.Freeman, who's better at 45 then he was at 25, or do you want to blow your kidneys and become a T.Prince who looks like a death, or maybe you want to be that fella who've never even knew what he'd like to be? Just sit and think well about it.

[jon cole]

it all depends man...

Do you want to have kids in the future?

Do you want to be dependend on HRT for the rest of your life?

Do you want to have a heart attack at age 48?

Seems cool now (as it did for me in my 20s), but now in my 30s, I look back and think i was stupid.  I have other goals in my life now (making money, maxing out my 401k, having a family, etc).    I been off for a few years now and actually feel better than before, but more importantly, I lost most of my size.  But i look back and ask if it was worth all that crap just to be 30 pounds heavier?  like now, what do i have to show for it?  Not much, you know?     Hard to have kids for me now, test is low and always feel tired, etc.   Not sure if it is worth it, even though when i was 20, it seemed like my entire world.

point is, just do 2 cycles a year with PCT and you will be fine long term...

amen to that, i didn't screw my natural test with heavy cycle but sacrified a lot of thing for bbing.