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For the few of you who haven't seen it yet, here is the full fight. Machida clearly won the first round and exposed the latter's striking as mediocre. Machida lended dozens of strikes and including one that almost rocked Jones, and Jones couldn't lend anything except for a few kicks to the leg that didn't do any damage. Even Dana White thinks Machida won the first round.
http://www.google.com.br/url?q=http://www.videolog.tv/video.php%3Fid%3D730625&sa=U&ei=2yz1Tq6KB5K3twfkp_mSBQ&ved=0CBkQtwIwAw&usg=AFQjCNG6gXCdUYycroshunSNY44sAnYgoA (http://www.google.com.br/url?q=http://www.videolog.tv/video.php%3Fid%3D730625&sa=U&ei=2yz1Tq6KB5K3twfkp_mSBQ&ved=0CBkQtwIwAw&usg=AFQjCNG6gXCdUYycroshunSNY44sAnYgoA)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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including one that almost rocked Jones,
;D
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Just watched it for the first time, pretty technically focused fight I guess. Jonny bones lost respect of Machidas punching power part way through the fight Didnt really see him in any major trouble either, had R1 under control too. Jones is so god danm physically invasive with his reach and height advantage, and nobody big and strong enough with the ability to clinch + overpower him in the Lhw division. and really though, Lyoto lost that fight before it even started..
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For the few of you who haven't seen it yet, here is the full fight. Machida clearly won the first round and exposed the latter's striking as mediocre. Machida lended dozens of strikes and including one that almost rocked Jones, and Jones couldn't lend anything except for a few kicks to the leg that didn't do any damage. Even Dana White thinks Machida won the first round.
http://www.google.com.br/url?q=http://www.videolog.tv/video.php%3Fid%3D730625&sa=U&ei=2yz1Tq6KB5K3twfkp_mSBQ&ved=0CBkQtwIwAw&usg=AFQjCNG6gXCdUYycroshunSNY44sAnYgoA (http://www.google.com.br/url?q=http://www.videolog.tv/video.php%3Fid%3D730625&sa=U&ei=2yz1Tq6KB5K3twfkp_mSBQ&ved=0CBkQtwIwAw&usg=AFQjCNG6gXCdUYycroshunSNY44sAnYgoA)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Dear Suckmymuscle you are a Jones hater!
I am not a fan of MMA and not a fan of Jones but was very easy for me realize how superior and stronger Jones was compared to Machida!
In the first round Jones took his time to figure how beat Machida,Jones was never in trouble and the punch Machida trow barely landed to Jones face and did not caused any damage to Jones.
Jones was relaxed and confident since the beginninig of the first round and in the second round Jones annhilated Machida!
If they fight another 10 times Jones would win another 10 time,because he his so much superior!
Jon Jones and Anderson Silva are the best MMA fighters in the world and nobody can touch them right now!
Suckmymuscle you just have to live with that : Jones and Anderson Silva are the BEST in the sport of MMA!
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Dear Suckmymuscle you are a Jones hater!
I am not a fan of MMA and not a fan of Jones but was very easy for me realize how superior and stronger Jones was compared to Machida!
In the first round Jones took his time to figure how beat Machida,Jones was never in trouble and the punch Machida trow barely landed to Jones face and did not caused any damage to Jones.
Jones was relaxed and confident since the beginninig of the first round and in the second round Jones annhilated Machida!
If they fight another 10 times Jones would win another 10 time,because he his so much superior!
Jon Jones and Anderson Silva are the best MMA fighters in the world and nobody can touch them right now!
Suckmymuscle you just have to live with that : Jones and Anderson Silva are the BEST in the sport of MMA!
Obviously a Jon Jones guy...
Jon Jones was completely exposed in this fight
Here is a man with an 84" reach who couldn't do anything against a much smaller man with a much shorter reach in the striking department and got hit dozens of times straight to the face.
Sure, he won the fight since he is 6'5 and competes at a muscular 240 lbs compared to his opponents who are truly around 205 lbs. Jon Jones is so much bigger than 205 lbs that he has to carb deplete for weeks to make weight, and then he balloons up again by dozens of pounds by fight day.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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84" reach
cant strike
;D
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haha .. After reading all about how Machida dominated bla bla .. Jones took like 3 punches and choked him out. Machida was bleak throughout
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It was Jones being stupid. He'll learn to strike later.
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Obviously a Jon Jones guy...
Jon Jones was completely exposed in this fight
Here is a man with an 84" reach who couldn't do anything against a much smaller man with a much shorter reach in the striking department and got hit dozens of times straight to the face.
Sure, he won the fight since he is 6'5 and competes at a
muscular 240 lbs compared to his opponents who are truly around 205 lbs. Jon Jones is so much bigger than 205 lbs that he has to carb deplete for weeks to make weight, and then he balloons up again by dozens of pounds by fight day.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Jones did nothing but drop him with a left hook and choke him out and retain the title! But other than that your right he did nothing! LoL
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84" reach
cant strike
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Can't strike,and still whooping top strikers..? They must suck really bad then,huh? Because he has not even come close to being hurt,after every fight it seems as if he had a warm up fight.? Truth is,he probably has had longer and harder training sessions,than his paid ring fights..? LOL.
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Jones did nothing but drop him with a left hook and choke him out and retain the title! But other than that your right he did nothing! LoL
Another retard who can't read. I said he did nothing in the striking department. Holy fuck, you guys are dumb!
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Obviously a Jon Jones guy...
Jon Jones was completely exposed in this fight
Here is a man with an 84" reach who couldn't do anything against a much smaller man with a much shorter reach in the striking department and got hit dozens of times straight to the face.
Sure, he won the fight since he is 6'5 and competes at a muscular 240 lbs compared to his opponents who are truly around 205 lbs. Jon Jones is so much bigger than 205 lbs that he has to carb deplete for weeks to make weight, and then he balloons up again by dozens of pounds by fight day.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
As I said before in my replay I AM NOT AN JONES FAN and I AM NOT AN MMA FAN!
I like and follow only boxing,but it was easy to see how much superior Jones was,infact Jones was in control the all time and in the first round Jones was just SIZING UP MACHIDA!
In the second round Jones decided to pull the trigger and ANNHILATED Machida with ease!
Suckmymuscle your hate for Jones make you BLIND!
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Can't strike,and still whooping top strikers..? They must suck really bad then,huh? Because he has not even come close to being hurt,after every fight it seems as if he had a warm up fight.? Truth is,he probably has had longer and harder training sessions,than his paid ring fights..? LOL.
This isn't boxing. You don't have to outstrike the strikers to win in mma dumbass.
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As I said before in my replay I AM NOT AN JONES FAN and I AM NOT AN MMA FAN!
I like and follow only boxing,but it was easy to see how much superior Jones was,infact Jones was in control the all time and in the first round Jones was just SIZING UP MACHIDA!
In the second round Jones decided to pull the trigger and ANNHILATED Machida with ease!
Suckmymuscle your hate for Jones make you BLIND!
"Sizing up"...yeah, right. Jones got hit tons of times in the face whilst Machida didn't because Jones was "sizing up" Machida. Funny that Machida didn't need to get hit at all to "size up" Jones first.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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This isn't boxing. You don't have to outstrike the strikers to win in mma dumbass.
Hey assh0le.. That was my point..
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Jones and Silva are like Kobe and Lebron freaks
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Jones and Silva are like Kobe and Lebron freaks
So is your mom
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^
:D
that makes two of us then
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Im a Jones fan. But I have no clue how 2 out of the 3 judges gave the 1st round to Jones. I felt Jones clearly lost the first round
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Funny how Dana White says, 'Jon Jones is the #2 p4p', then the next day its 'official', hes on the list behind Silva ::) lol.
Jones even being on the p4p list is silly :D
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silva and jones and gsp
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If he only wins because of his reach advantage how is it then that this fight was decided by a close range grounded elbow and even closer range guillotine choke?
You talk shit suckmuscle
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If he only wins because of his reach advantage how is it then that this fight was decided by a close range grounded elbow and even closer range guillotine choke?
You talk shit suckmuscle
he doesnt win his fights solely on reach, but it plays a huge factor.
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If he only wins because of his reach advantage how is it then that this fight was decided by a close range grounded elbow and even closer range guillotine choke?
You talk shit suckmuscle
I also said he wins because he is bigger and stronger than everyone at 205 lbs. In this fight, he got exposed by getting outstriken despite his 84" reach by a much smaller man. He then won the fight by grabbing Machida with his superior strength and chocking him out like a pig. He usually wins due to his ridiculous reach advantage, but in this case he couldn't despite of it because Machida is that good of a striker, so he used his strength to hold Machida and choke him. He wins because of his superior reach and power because he is physically a lot bigger than all the other guys at 205 lbs.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I also said he wins because he is bigger and stronger than everyone at 205 lbs. In this fight, he got exposed by getting outstriken despite his 84" reach by a much smaller man. He then won the fight by grabbing Machida with his superior strength and chocking him out like a pig. He usually wins due to his ridiculous reach advantage, but in this case he couldn't despite of it because Machida is that good of a striker, so he used his strength to hold Machida and choke him. He wins because of his superior reach and power because he is physically a lot bigger than all the other guys at 205 lbs.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Well he did knock him down for a moment before he choked him out. It was about 30 seconds before the clinch where he chokes him out.
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Well he did knock him down for a moment before he choked him out. It was about 30 seconds before the clinch where he chokes him out.
If you watch that brief exchange your talking about can see Machida throw the straight left and Jones counters with a left I believe, clocking him right on the button. Lyoto had to get right into Jones' striking range while fully extending his punch while Jon didnt even have to extend his arm have of what Machida did. Jones just knowing his opponents cant hit him unless they endanger themselves is a worth alot on its own. Fucking reach advantage is insane.
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I was very disappointed with Ryu in this fight. He should have Hadouked Jones' ass right after he lended that straight jab to Jones's nose in the first round...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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If you watch that brief exchange your talking about can see Machida throw the straight left and Jones counters with a left I believe, clocking him right on the button. Lyoto had to get right into Jones' striking range while fully extending his punch while Jon didnt even have to extend his arm have of what Machida did. Jones just knowing his opponents cant hit him unless they endanger themselves is a worth alot on its own. Fucking reach advantage is insane.
Yep...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Suckmymuscle = Bill Anvil
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Suckmymuscle = Bill Anvil
why because we occasionally have the same opinions on the sport? 2 people agreeing on something.. one of them must be a gimmick lol. thats an excellent way of thinking ::)
you and your bosom buddy mindless agree on virtually everything it seems so need I go on ???
and please, call me william
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To me Jones is a difficult fight: he is fast, agile and can take a punch. Having said this, it's always pissed me off how noone has EVER taken advantage of what everyone keeps thinking is his best weapon: his long limbs. The UFC is dangerously becoming more like boxing.
If anyone, fighter or trainer, watches old MMA fights they'd notice that Jones' arms and legs are a TRUE MMA fighter's wet dream. All you have to do is take out his legs and/or arms. Then you work the torso. Pretty soon he is out of his element, loses concentration and... boom, kick to the head and lights out. Knocked the fuck out. Don't aim at his frigging head because he is faster than you!
I've always wandered why these UFC fighters never work people's arms and legs like they do in other MMA divisions.
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Another retard who can't read. I said he did nothing in the striking department. Holy fuck, you guys are dumb!
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Wow, have you been hit in the head too many times? You said he did nothing striking,(read again there special ed) and he knocked Machida down with a strike? Its okay special ed, keep trying to act smart, I bet you roll around naked with your lifesize cutout of Jones guessing his true body fat content! ???
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So suckmuscle is special head now?
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Wow, have you been hit in the head too many times? You said he did nothing striking,(read again there special ed) and he knocked Machida down with a strike? Its okay special ed, keep trying to act smart, I bet you roll around naked with your lifesize cutout of Jones guessing his true body fat content! ???
Ready to get owned again? Jones grabbed Machida to lend that elbow punch. That is not "striking". Sorry that you are too dumb to understand that lending a strike when you are holding your opponent and he can't evade it and striking, which involves foot and head movement and timing for your strikes to be precise when your opponent is free to evade them, are two different things. Dumbass.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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So suckmuscle is special head now?
;D
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So suckmuscle is special head now?
I will show you my special head if you want to...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Ready to get owned again? Jones grabbed Machida to lend that elbow punch. That is not "striking". Sorry that you are too dumb to understand that lending a strike when you are holding your opponent and he can't evade it and striking, which involves foot and head movement and timing for your strikes to be precise when your opponent is free to evade them, are too different things. Dumbass.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
It's okay special ed, I don't pick on the mentally challenged and you will be no exception. Move along now and staighten up your plastic helmet, it has moved down over eyes affecting your vision!
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It's okay special ed, I don't pick on the mentally challenged and you will be no exception. Move along now and staighten up your plastic helmet, it has moved down over eyes affecting your vision!
Translation:
"I just realized how retarded my argument was and that I got owned epically, so I will just pretend like nothing happened and bow out of the thread."
I accept your admission of defeat. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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why because we occasionally have the same opinions on the sport? 2 people agreeing on something.. one of them must be a gimmick lol. thats an excellent way of thinking ::)
you and your bosom buddy mindless agree on virtually everything it seems so need I go on ???
and please, call me william
Ok Sucky. ::)
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Let's put this in perspective...
Jon Jones striking was exposed as mediocre. He is still far superior to everyone else in explosiveness, athleticism, strength and wrestling. But his striking...
Here is a man with an 84" reach who couldn't do anything against a much smaller man with a much shorter reach. He couldn't tag Machida at all in the first round, and Machida clipped him several times, including a time that almost rocked Jones. Sure, Jones managed to clip Machida once in the second round, then use his wrestling to take him down and ground-and-pound him with his elbows which essentially ended the fight. But Machida's striking was overall superior.
This is not surprising since Machida and Anderson Silva are the two best technical strikers in MMA. Not necessarily in terms of power, but in terms of technique. By this, I mean that their foot work, head movement and striking timing are outstanding and far superior to everyone else's. They both have over 90% striking accuracy and almost never get hit.
Jon Jones was the best overall fighter and won the fight. But his striking is not at the ultra-elite level of Machida and Anderson.
Jones is a physical specimen and can only be defeated by the best heavyweights. His height, reach, takedowns and devastating ground-and-pound are too much for anyone at 205 lbs to beat him. I don't think there is anyone at the light-heavyweight division who can beat him. Phil Davis and Rashad will get crushed. Hendo could lend the H-bomb and win, but he will probably never get witin reach of Jones to do that.
Despite the loss, I believe Machida remains the only guy at the 205 lbs division who could beat Jones. Machida's superb technical striking carried him through to the second round, and IMO this was the only time Jones lost a round in his career. Jones still won because he is that superior at everything else, but for the first time ever we saw him get outmatched at something and struggle.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Jones destroyed Lyoto
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Jones destroyed Lyoto
Yeah, BUT Lyoto wasn't fighting a TRUE LHW!!
Look at Jones' reach! 84 inches!!! And he's really tall!!! Oh, and he's pretty muscular. AND, he could put on a bunch of fat at fight HW.
;D
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I remember watching the fight and thinking "wow, this is the first fighter that I've seen that is actually faster than Jones".
Machida is faster than all get out
I think if Vitor Belfort went back up to 205; he could potentially hurt jones
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I remember watching the fight and thinking "wow, this is the first fighter that I've seen that is actually faster than Jones".
Machida is faster than all get out
I think if Vitor Belfort went back up to 205; he could potentially hurt jones
You're nuts.. Did you see what an old Silva did to him..? A young injury free Jones would rape him.. Jones knew exactly what he was doing.. He was patient. He figured his opponents timing. Then he crushed him.People who fight know,sometimes you have to take one to give one. Fans that know nothing, think Machida was winning because he got in a few shots..? . I wanted Machida to do better,and he tried his best.. But Jones is superior in every way..
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You're nuts.. Did you see what an old Silva did to him..? A young injury free Jones would rape him.. Jones knew exactly what he was doing.. He was patient. He figured his opponents timing. Then he crushed him.People who fight know,sometimes you have to take one to give one. Fans that know nothing, think Machida was winning because he got in a few shots..? . I wanted Machida to do better,and he tried his best.. But Jones is superior in every way..
i didnt say belfort would beat jones.... But a fast puncher like belfort could potentially hurt him
PS: i saw the belfort/silvia fight several times... Yes a unorthodox kick caught belfort... all credit to silvia... But belfort was the faster athlete in that fight
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i didnt say belfort would beat jones.... But a fast puncher like belfort could potentially hurt him
PS: i saw the belfort/silvia fight several times... Yes a unorthodox kick caught belfort... all credit to silvia... But belfort was the faster athlete in that fight
All of you guys with your speed,speed ,speed..? Truth is the slower striker(according to you) knocked out the faster striker.? It's all skill,figuring out your opponent,instead of throwing punches that miss their mark,because your fist fist gets there,before the target isn't going to get you a win. Patience,and timing,that's what slow poke Jones does.. Works every time.
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All of you guys with your speed,speed ,speed..? Truth is the slower striker(according to you) knocked out the faster striker.? It's all skill,figuring out your opponent,instead of throwing punches that miss their mark,because your fist fist gets there,before the target isn't going to get you a win. Patience,and timing,that's what slow poke Jones does.. Works every time.
x2 with Big Perm, I mean Big Worm! ;D
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x2 with Big Perm, I mean Big Worm! ;D
Hey,hey..!? >:(
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All of you guys with your speed,speed ,speed..? Truth is the slower striker(according to you) knocked out the faster striker.? It's all skill,figuring out your opponent,instead of throwing punches that miss their mark,because your fist fist gets there,before the target isn't going to get you a win. Patience,and timing,that's what slow poke Jones does.. Works every time.
all Im saying is that belfort's hands are faster. Bas ruten said belforts hands were faster!
Yes... Silva was the better kicker
i get the vibe you are angry when you type your responses.
ps: Im a jones fan (as i said on page 1 of this thread)
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all Im saying is that belfort's hands are faster. Bas ruten said belforts hands were faster!
Yes... Silva was the better kicker
i get the vibe you are angry when you type your responses.
ps: Im a jones fan (as i said on page 1 of this thread)
LOL.. I'm not angry at all.. I like you,just trying to make a point..
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Hey,hey..!? >:(
One of my favorite flicks!
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You're nuts.. Did you see what an old Silva did to him..? A young injury free Jones would rape him.. Jones knew exactly what he was doing.. He was patient. He figured his opponents timing. Then he crushed him.People who fight know,sometimes you have to take one to give one. Fans that know nothing, think Machida was winning because he got in a few shots..? . I wanted Machida to do better,and he tried his best.. But Jones is superior in every way..
Ok, I was gona let this shit die and not argue with you Jones' nuthuggers(Coltrane, etc...) but this is just stupid. How was Jones' striking superior ??? He had an advantage of an 84" reach vs a 76" reach for Machida and yet he couldn't do anything against Machida! Machida clipped him in the face with straight jabs a dozen times in the first round and Jones couldn't hit him once! Not once! The best he could do was hit Machida with one or two leg kicks that did no damage whatsoever.
Jones striking = mediocre
Period!
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Ok, I was gona let this shit die and not argue with you Jones' nuthuggers(Coltrane, etc...) but this is just stupid. How was Jones' striking superior ??? He had an advantage of an 84" reach vs a 76" reach for Machida and yet he couldn't do anything against Machida! Machida clipped him in the face with straight jabs a dozen times in the first round and Jones couldn't hit him once! Not once! The best he could do was hit Machida with one or two leg kicks that did no damage whatsoever.
Jones striking = mediocre
Period!
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Mr. Coltrane owns your mind. :o
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Coltrane owns your mind.
I think Jon Jones owns your asshole...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I think Jon Jones owns your asshole...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Oh, good one!! ::)
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Oh, good one!!
Keep rolling your eyes, f.aggot. At least you are good for that. Do you also roll your eyes in pleasure when you are deep-throating Jon Jones' dick?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Keep rolling your eyes, f.aggot. At least you are good for that. Do you also roll your eyes in pleasure when you are deep-throating Jon Jones' dick?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You're very prone to meltdowns today, aren't you chap?
Don't get mad at me cause your boys keep getting stomped by Jones.
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You're very prone to meltdowns today, aren't you chap?
Don't get mad at me cause your boys keep getting stomped by Jones.
I am sure you would love getting stomped by Jones' dick in your mangina. Fuck you, you fucking queer.
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You're nuts.. Did you see what an old Silva did to him..? A young injury free Jones would rape him.. Jones knew exactly what he was doing.. He was patient. He figured his opponents timing. Then he crushed him.People who fight know,sometimes you have to take one to give one. Fans that know nothing, think Machida was winning because he got in a few shots..? . I wanted Machida to do better,and he tried his best.. But Jones is superior in every way..
Exactly. Machida wasnt winning anything, Jones had R1 under control. Its just like the fans that said Arlovski was beating Fedor, until he got ktfo lol
And lol at the guy who said Vitor has a chance. Vitor can be a great fighter, but hes only what 6'0" tall?? Jones is 6 5 and would destroy Vitor from half way across the cage with ease. Its funny when people suggest that ANY lhw stands a chance, because they really dont.
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Exactly. Machida wasnt winning anything, Jones had R1 under control. Its just like the fans that said Arlovski was beating Fedor, until he got ktfo lol
And lol at the guy who said Vitor has a chance. Vitor can be a great fighter, but hes only what 6'0" tall?? Jones is 6 5 and would destroy Vitor from half way across the cage with ease. Its funny when people suggest that ANY lhw stands a chance, because they really dont.
No. He wasn't "in control". Jones lost the first round. Period!!! I don't know what fight you guys were watching ??? But yeah, Jon
Jones won as expected. Nothing impressive about a 6'5 man with a huge frame beating a 6'1 guy with an average frame.
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No. He wasn't "in control". Jones lost the first round. Period!!! I don't know what fight you guys were watching ??? But yeah, Jon
Jones won as expected. Nothing impressive about a 6'5 man with a huge frame beating a 6'1 guy with an average frame.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Machida has pillow hands and didnt have Jones in any danger really. Sure he was out maneuvering Jon and tagged him a couple times but thats it. And no I dont find it all that impressive either. If Jones was fighting people his size and taking them out that easily, now that would be scary..
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Machida has pillow hands and didnt have Jones in any danger really. Sure he was out maneuvering Jon and tagged him a couple times but thats it. And no I dont find it all that impressive either. If Jones was fighting people his size and taking them out that easily, now that would be scary..
Go tell Rashad that Machida has pillow hands...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Machida has pillow hands and didnt have Jones in any danger really. Sure he was out maneuvering Jon and tagged him a couple times but thats it. And no I dont find it all that impressive either. If Jones was fighting people his size and taking them out that easily, now that would be scary..
it wasnt a feeling out process that lead to machida's destruction
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Go tell Rashad that Machida has pillow hands...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Rashad got hit right on the button, so of course he went to sleep lol. Machida relies on pin point accuracy punches right to the chin to KO people. Hard hitters can hit you anywhere on the head, even with little effort and still punch you out. Power and accuracy are two different things both have their advantages if used accordingly.
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Rashad got hit right on the button, so of course he went to sleep lol. Machida relies on pin point accuracy punches right to the chin to KO people. Hard hitters can hit you anywhere on the head, even with little effort and still punch you out. Power and accuracy are two different things both have their advantages if used accordingly.
How often do you see guys getting hit in the eye socket or nose getting knocked out, though, except for Cain since JDS is a monster? Most KOs happen when you clip your opponent in the chin. Jon Jones himself has never kncoked anyone out, and that's because he never connected to the chin. His wins are by TKO or submission. I don't think Machida hits less hard than anyone else.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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How often do you see guys getting hit in the eye socket or nose getting knocked out, though, except for Cain since JDS is a monster? Most KOs happen when you clip your opponent in the chin. Jon Jones himself has never kncoked anyone out, and that's because he never connected to the chin. His wins are by TKO or submission. I don't think Machida hits less hard than anyone else.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Machida isnt exactly know to be one of the hardest hitters around thats all, hes an accurate puncher. Guys like JDS, Fedor, vovchanchyn, Manhoef, and Hendo can ruin your day with only 1 hit.
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How often do you see guys getting hit in the eye socket or nose getting knocked out, though, except for Cain since JDS is a monster? Most KOs happen when you clip your opponent in the chin. Jon Jones himself has never kncoked anyone out, and that's because he never connected to the chin. His wins are by TKO or submission. I don't think Machida hits less hard than anyone else.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Jones beat your lovely Machida.. Deal with it.. The better "FIGHTER" won,you're trying to convince us he wasn't? Just stop,you do not know what you're talking about ? Machida"supposedly "won the 1st round,so he's the better striker...? Jones won the fight,so he's the better fighter,and that's that..
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Jones beat your lovely Machida.. Deal with it.. The better "FIGHTER" won,you're trying to convince us he wasn't? Just stop,you do not know what you're talking about ? Machida"supposedly "won the 1st round,so he's the better striker...? Jones won the fight,so he's the better fighter,and that's that..
You are one dumb motherf.ucker. Where have I stated that Machida was the better overall fighter? All I claimed is that Jones' striking was exposed as technically inferior to Machida's and that it is Jones' reach that is carrying him through in the striking department.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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can we move on?
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You are one dumb motherf.ucker. Where have I stated that Machida was the better overall fighter? All I claimed is that Jones' striking was exposed as technically inferior to Machida's and that it is Jones' reach that is carrying him through in the striking department.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
you're such a Phaggot.. Look at you getting all gay over a comment.. Exposed..? If he was exposed,he would have been on the ground,you phucking phaggot.. You don't get exposed and win a fight.! If he was exposed,his reach would not have carried him to victory,instead,he got through Machidas "superior"strikes,wrapped his arms around his neck,then dumped him like yesterdays trash.. You're in denial,Machida did nothing but lose the fight.
Deal with it Phaggot.!
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I remember watching the fight and thinking "wow, this is the first fighter that I've seen that is actually faster than Jones".
Machida is faster than all get out
I think if Vitor Belfort went back up to 205; he could potentially hurt jones
I agree. However the fight was very misleading. Jones gave Machida way too much respect(and rightfully so I may add). However, if they fought again, Jones would probably take him out in the first round. However, what I did take from this fight is that Jones does not like to be hit. It almost as if the guy has never been really punched in the face. And that in the end may be his demise. Although, it may take many years before someone with his reach is able to step in the ring with him.
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Ok, I was gona let this shit die and not argue with you Jones' nuthuggers(Coltrane, etc...) but this is just stupid. How was Jones' striking superior ??? He had an advantage of an 84" reach vs a 76" reach for Machida and yet he couldn't do anything against Machida! Machida clipped him in the face with straight jabs a dozen times in the first round and Jones couldn't hit him once! Not once! The best he could do was hit Machida with one or two leg kicks that did no damage whatsoever.
Jones striking = mediocre
Period!
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I think Jones striking is sub-par for sure. He gets away with it because of his reach and the fact that most people who get in the ring with him now are nervous as fuck of those elbows. Take this guys reach away, and he wouldn't be in the UFC. And that's a fact jack. Unreal that he kept trying those goofy spinning back kicks against a Karate guy like Machida. I can see doing one just to keep him thinking, but Jones kept doing them as if he was gonna do damage with that move. I guessing the day someone knocks him the fuck out is going to be his Mike Tyson moment and he will never be the same fighter again. He fought pretty scared of Machida in the first round. Mike Tyson never fought scared before he got knocked out. This Jones dude gets knocked the fuck out, he won't be the same fighter. With all that said, I still think he's one of the most exciting fighters to watch in the ring.
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you're such a Phaggot.. Look at you getting all gay over a comment.. Exposed..? If he was exposed,he would have been on the ground,you phucking phaggot.. You don't get exposed and win a fight.! If he was exposed,his reach would not have carried him to victory,instead,he got through Machidas "superior"strikes,wrapped his arms around his neck,then dumped him like yesterdays trash.. You're in denial,Machida did nothing but lose the fight.
Deal with it Phaggot.!
You are sure one dumb queer. I said from the beggining that his striking got exposed, you fucking retarded c.unt! Learn to read, you stupid ape.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I think Jones striking is sub-par for sure. He gets away with it because of his reach and the fact that most people who get in the ring with him now are nervous as fuck of those elbows. Take this guys reach away, and he wouldn't be in the UFC. And that's a fact jack. Unreal that he kept trying those goofy spinning back kicks against a Karate guy like Machida. I can see doing one just to keep him thinking, but Jones kept doing them as if he was gonna do damage with that move. I guessing the day someone knocks him the fuck out is going to be his Mike Tyson moment and he will never be the same fighter again. He fought pretty scared of Machida in the first round. Mike Tyson never fought scared before he got knocked out. This Jones dude gets knocked the fuck out, he won't be the same fighter. With all that said, I still think he's one of the most exciting fighters to watch in the ring.
Thank you! Whhhhhhhhiif! What a relief! There is a thinker on Getbig! Best post of the year!
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Rogan calling Jones a "super athlete" is retarded. Jones is a freak of nature. He has Alien arms. But its not the guy could have excelled in any sport he put his mind to like Rogan claims. With his body structure, the only other sport he would have a chance in is basketball. But he would be a tiny basketball player. And he would have had to start in his pre-teens to have any chance in basketball. Other than that, he is just some dude with Alien-like long arms. He probably could have excelled in beach volleyball but something tells me he's nervous around water. ;) I'm glad he picked fighting because he's fun to watch.
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It's just a matter or time before someone figures out Jones.
The sport is evolving so rapidly that it makes one's style obsolete in less than 5 fights.
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I agree. However the fight was very misleading. Jones gave Machida way too much respect(and rightfully so I may add). However, if they fought again, Jones would probably take him out in the first round. However, what I did take from this fight is that Jones does not like to be hit. It almost as if the guy has never been really punched in the face. And that in the end may be his demise. Although, it may take many years before someone with his reach is able to step in the ring with him.
fucking bang on
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You are sure one dumb queer. I said from the beggining that his striking got exposed, you fucking retarded c.unt! Learn to read, you stupid ape.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Your mothers an Ape..
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Your mothers an Ape..
Learn to write the English language, you dumb queer. It's "Your mother's an ape." and not what you wrote. And your mother loves me so much the last time I fucked her in the ass she gave me a picture of her to remember her. The picture is in my avatar. :D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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hmmm... you sure it is "mother's" SMM??
Might wanna double check that one.
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hmmm... you sure it is "mother's" SMM??
Might wanna double check that one.
LOL... Shhhh!
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hmmm... you sure it is "mother's" SMM??
Might wanna double check that one.
Yes, I am sure.
SUCKMYMUSCLE