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What's your opinion on him?
He seems to know a lot about nutrition and so on and always comes in rock hard for a contest and isn't too badly built.
I think he lies about his diet on Facebook though... He never "seems" to deviate from his "clean" diet and he is on hormones for sure...
What do you think?
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1. shelby is a fucking cyborg or something. he really does eat like that and trains like a fucking animal
2. yes the guys is very smart with nutrition and contest prep. i will be using him myself this upcoming year ;D
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He hasn't put a gram of muscle since 2000.
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IF i would hire someone for a show, it would be him.
Seems to knows his shit with the diet, gear, synthol injections (his use is obvious so he might talk about it when you hire him I don't know), insulin, carbing up ect ect
his guys are ALWAYS very lean and most importantly, very full
plus he isn't that expensive
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1. shelby is a fucking cyborg or something. he really does eat like that and trains like a fucking animal
2. yes the guys is very smart with nutrition and contest prep. i will be using him myself this upcoming year ;D
I don't know how he does it, its crazy, but yes, he does train his ass off and is quite a strong fella.
Good luck with the diet. His client transformations are always inspiring
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IF i would hire someone for a show, it would be him.
Seems to knows his shit with the diet, gear, synthol injections (his use is obvious so he might talk about it when you hire him I don't know), insulin, carbing up ect ect
his guys are ALWAYS very lean and most importantly, very full
plus he isn't that expensive
I've never noticed the synthol. Would you care to elaborate? Do you think his response to hormones are low?
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I've never noticed the synthol. Would you care to elaborate? Do you think his response to hormones are low?
He posted once on professionalmuscle, something along the line that he didn't understand steroid user bashing synthol use because steroids are just as fake as synthol or something like that.
I really don't feel like searching it but it's out there.
Also the shape of his arms has gotten a bit fucked up over the years ( I still think he looks great)
I think it's pretty clear he is not a hyper-responder due to the fact that he makes very slow and steady gains over the year, and he has been training for a while.
tho, he still won his class in 3 division, in the SAME YEAR !
that's an amazing feat, but he realized that but starving himself to death to enter the welterweight class
I recommend him as a coach for sure after reading his posts
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He definitely knows what he is doing but he has never once made any comment on gear/peptides use on pro muscle so who knows what his drug programs are like
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Let's just say he is as disciplined and smart about his supplementation as he is his nutrition
Shelby is the real deal.
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Engaged!!!! :-( Off topic I know
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shelby is oneof the most dedicated guys guy that you will ever meet .. trains and eats like its a religion.. he is not a easy gainer by any means so he trains like a mad man.. i wish i had half his dedication
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Engaged!!!! :-( Off topic I know
Damn - so Shelby's off the market? :D
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shelbey is a great guy...helps out a lotta peeps...everything ive ever heard about him was good shit...super dedicated, hard training, etc....
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He definitely knows what he is doing but he has never once made any comment on gear/peptides use on pro muscle so who knows what his drug programs are like
don't know what they are but they work by looking at him or his clients
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1. shelby is a fucking cyborg or something. he really does eat like that and trains like a fucking animal
How does he eat? What's his daily diet like?
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How does he eat? What's his daily diet like?
why do you ask, it's not like you are going to try it ;D
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why do you ask, it's not like you are going to try it ;D
ouch ;D
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sHELBY LOOKING GOOD HERE
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=408257.0;attach=450714;image)
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why do you ask, it's not like you are going to try it ;D
perhaps his daily diet involves mcgriddles, cinnamon rolls, and the occasional chicken breast.
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perhaps his daily diet involves mcgriddles, cinnamon rolls, and the occasional chicken breast.
;D
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perhaps his daily diet involves mcgriddles, cinnamon rolls, and the occasional chicken breast.
I doubt it. He seems way too serious.
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I doubt it. He seems way too serious.
are you saying he probably mixes DIET mountain dew with his merlot?
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don't hate
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I CAN IMAGINE THE DUDE BEING LOADED TO THE GILLS.
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lotta low count posters showing love for shelby.
perhaps one of the most infamous gimmick runners on getbig?
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He hasn't put a gram of muscle since 2000.
Are you kidding? HE went from WW to a LHW in one year.
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Are you kidding? HE went from WW to a LHW in one year.
exactly
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My buddy hired him for his last prep and ended up looking the best he ever has.
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I CAN IMAGINE THE DUDE BEING LOADED TO THE GILLS.
Maybe for contest prep but he isn't even that big. What are his height and competition weight? anyone know? He really should up his dose in the offseason
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Shelby is a good guy !!
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He definitely knows what he is doing but he has never once made any comment on gear/peptides use on pro muscle so who knows what his drug programs are like
his drug programs are normal... doesn't use any "secret"
If you aren't 100% serious about dieting and training and all that, hiring him won't do you any good.
those people got shredded because they listened to him 100% and never cheated. they get much smaller, but they get ripped to the bone...
one word... consistency.
I hired him before... 80% of the work is diet.
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his drug programs are normal... doesn't use any "secret"
If you aren't 100% serious about dieting and training and all that, hiring him won't do you any good.
those people got shredded because they listened to him 100% and never cheated. they get much smaller, but they get ripped to the bone...
one word... consistency.
I hired him before... 80% of the work is diet.
bah... dieting is so gay...
I'll stick to having no coach then ;D
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Here's what Shelby's diet looks like.
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/64730-current-diet.html
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bah... dieting is so gay...
I'll stick to having no coach then ;D
LOOOOOL
I hear ya bro... i'd much rather be eating cookies and cereal and getting down to 8% fat without any effort and gain some muscle in 3 months than dieting my ass off, hate my life, work really hard just to get to 4% in 3 months while losing 10 lbs of muscle in the process
gonna take pics tomorrow (after i shave this damn sweater they call body hair) and show the results of depending on diet and cardio for 5 weeks... then depending on drugs while basically eating what i want in small quantities for another 5 weeks with a lot of fat burners and little cardio
basically first 5 weeks, nothing happened and i was at 96 kg all the time...
last 5 weeks, lost 2 inches off the waist and i'm at 92.5 kg
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Maybe for contest prep but he isn't even that big. What are his height and competition weight? anyone know? He really should up his dose in the offseason
5'5-5'6 AND 195-200LBS, 4% ISNT BIG TO YOU? HIS CONDITION IS TOP NOTCH.
TO US 5'10ERS THAT'S LIKE 230ISH LBS AT COMPETITION WEIGHT NOT JUST EVERYDAY 6-7%. WE'RE TALKING 4% HERE.
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5'5-5'6 AND 195-200LBS, 4% ISNT BIG TO YOU? HIS CONDITION IS TOP NOTCH.
TO US 5'10ERS THAT'S LIKE 230ISH LBS AT COMPETITION WEIGHT NOT JUST EVERYDAY 6-7%. WE'RE TALKING 4% HERE.
I might be mistaken... but i believe shelby is something like 5'8
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I really do eat like that all the time. I don't have very good bodybuilding genetics so for me to make progress, I have to be very disciplined with everything (diet, training, supplements, sleep, etc.).
I'm 5'6 and last competed at 198 (won Jr Nationals). My first show was in 2005 and I weighed 158 then.
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I dont know the guy, but he has always answered my q's honestly, like when i asked him if he quit dc training.
He seems like a guy who is fighting really hard against his genetics (which dont seem to be too great)
He is a very intense trainer, u should watch him squat
But i wouldnt be surprised if he was on sometbing like 2 grams weekly, but then he has never mentioned his own aas use, so u cant call him a liar either
Either way, the dude seems quite dedicated with what he does
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Lol speak of the devil, shelby posts while i was writing mine :D
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I really do eat like that all the time. I don't have very good bodybuilding genetics so for me to make progress, I have to be very disciplined with everything (diet, training, supplements, sleep, etc.).
I'm 5'6 and last competed at 198 (won Jr Nationals). My first show was in 2005 and I weighed 158 then.
I admire your dedication and the progress you have made over the years. Well done!
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Here's what Shelby's diet looks like.
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/64730-current-diet.html
Danm suprised how little he eats
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5'5-5'6 AND 195-200LBS, 4% ISNT BIG TO YOU? HIS CONDITION IS TOP NOTCH.
TO US 5'10ERS THAT'S LIKE 230ISH LBS AT COMPETITION WEIGHT NOT JUST EVERYDAY 6-7%. WE'RE TALKING 4% HERE.
ok 5'6 198lbs is pretty good competition weight. Better than what I would be but I run relatively small amounts. I guess I was looking at earlier pics or something. His dedication is pretty nuts.
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don't know what they are but they work by looking at him or his clients
Agreed.
And for you and B-Boy to give him props says something in and of itself!
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starnes doesn't eat mcgriddles?
bummer... those things are anabolic.
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What's your opinion on him?
He seems to know a lot about nutrition and so on and always comes in rock hard for a contest and isn't too badly built.
I think he lies about his diet on Facebook though... He never "seems" to deviate from his "clean" diet and he is on hormones for sure...
What do you think?
A thread that only a man with the mentality of an eleven year old girl would start..
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the key for you fellas is to undrstand that there is no nice fellas as you say so in bodybuild lol they are all crooks,, you do not fucking get it ,, fellas whos original weight natural woudl be hardly 140-150lb ....that then compete first show 158...then go to the high 90s ...all being 5'5 even if 5'7 still very litle fella and he say himself horrid genettic frame for top bodybuild..since the frame is only thing mater see new pro tod...he doesnt hav good genetic he has good frame!
so for you to actualy buy into the nice fella ,, i hire him for he is nice fella ,, diet diet diet ...this would be nice in 2004 ...before gh15 arrived
the reaility of the matter and this is importent to digest here and i will try to be as polite as i can
he need to come out and tell you,, this is wha i did first show to step on stage 158...i weould never do it with out the following drugs!,,
and then he need to come and say ...and THEN came human growth hormone that with out it i would never go into no light heavy ever!
he need to talk abotu the drugs that take 90% of the size he gathered ,, you fellas dont understand how big is 190 4% 5'5 you have no clue,,im very dissapointed in this tred and postings,, it realy show the ones here who wil end up as gymnasium rats,, you can see them growing ...you can actualy see theri dreams when they are 18...and then through 21 to 23..to 25 and you can see how they accept their gym rat status liek fella who is used to prison life
it is the worst cult in the world bodybuild ,, it is really i dont knwo how to describe it but realy sick fellas,,not physicaly but mentaly ,, i mean it
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Good prep guy,good bodybuilder,very fucking strong...........good guy.
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A thread that only a man with the mentality of an eleven year old girl would start..
I don't get it????
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I read his stuff on TNation
Seems like a down to earth guy who knows his stuff and works his ass off
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I read his stuff on TNation
Seems like a down to earth guy who knows his stuff and works his ass off
Very very true
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shelby stend woudl nto even hit 140lb ons tage naturaly ,, not if he is 5'5 ,, you have to understand that diet....really have nothing to di with it now day , it jsut doesnt ,, with hgh and steroids diet play a much less of a roll ,, you may be sold balonie abotu diet for guru to make money but! reality of the mater is shelny strens would be another 135lb 5'5 fella on stage that tried some halodrol once few years back lol if was truly natural ,,
thats just how it is friends,, you can actualy look into pictures and vdieo and see! when he enter gh to his blood,, you can see also when he was only on steroids aka 155lb first competition
there is no pretty truth my frirend,, there also isnt nice truth ,, the truth is every bodybuild is drug addict ,, period!
TRULY NATURAL?
165 lb 5'10 on stage at 6% never in the 4-5 zone,,that again put mr shelvy strens at about 135 6% on stage naturally
sad right? but you are sold illusion ,, ilusiion of niceness as i call it
the oldest trick in the book ,, the ones fellas fear to tell me face to face whenever they see me is the never skip a meal balonie,,we bodybuild skip many MANY meals ,, we sometime eat whatevr we can ,, it is the drugs that let us do it and fix us up! the drugs
WITH DIET ONLY WE WOULD STILL BE IN THE 160S 5'10 NOT 5'5
and as i always say even even! the 160s fellas ...you know who they are the ones who walk 180s in gymasium and all naturalo 8-10% lol even they go on fat burners and on pro hormones lol which are designer drugs aka steroids lol
filt is filt no matter how you wrap it
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let me clarify ,, i dont hate the fella ,, i just do not like when somoen put or get credit for somethnig that has absolitly no conection with diet,, yes diet mater few weeks pre show ,, but to say that competing in light heavy as little 5'5 fella is result of diet? lol those height fellas compete in fly weights lol light heavy is serious weight caused by usage of legit growth and steroids on a 5'5 fella,, the abodminal seperation of shelby is enormous when in shape,, he is very femiliar and conected to legit gh ay it be kigtropin or serostim ,,
i do not like dantas gang for they are crooked ,, they are white color criminals ,, there is a lot coming and i warn im tellin you i warn dont tell me i didnt do it ,, i will destroy fellas on the website,, i just want truth and until it is out 100% i will not rest,,
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but to say that competing in light heavy as little 5'5 fella is result of diet?
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No one has said this and we Understand that drugs is a big role. Big big Role.
Obiovusly some people needs help with their diets because they cant fogure it out by themself. He helps them.
It's that simple.
go to www.letskillsometime.com get some laughs and eat some dried moose and relax my negga
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HbxqgUlNUfI/Tagyk3w93tI/AAAAAAAAESQ/218LtaC4rd4/s1600/CIMG4433.JPG)
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I think Shelby just doesn`t talk about drugs......his prerogative and actually a very smart thing to do when you post using your real name.
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let me clarify ,, i dont hate the fella ,, i just do not like when somoen put or get credit for somethnig that has absolitly no conection with diet,, yes diet mater few weeks pre show ,, but to say that competing in light heavy as little 5'5 fella is result of diet? lol those height fellas compete in fly weights lol light heavy is serious weight caused by usage of legit growth and steroids on a 5'5 fella,, the abodminal seperation of shelby is enormous when in shape,, he is very femiliar and conected to legit gh ay it be kigtropin or serostim ,,
i do not like dantas gang for they are crooked ,, they are white color criminals ,, there is a lot coming and i warn im tellin you i warn dont tell me i didnt do it ,, i will destroy fellas on the website,, i just want truth and until it is out 100% i will not rest,,
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i am not challenging your theories or disagree with your numbers ,percentages,,but clean i competed as middlweight low 170's 5'7 ish.
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No one has said this and we Understand that drugs is a big role. Big big Role.
Obiovusly some people needs help with their diets because they cant fogure it out by themself. He helps them.
It's that simple.
go to www.letskillsometime.com get some laughs and eat some dried moose and relax my negga
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HbxqgUlNUfI/Tagyk3w93tI/AAAAAAAAESQ/218LtaC4rd4/s1600/CIMG4433.JPG)
what help do you need with diet ? dont yuoi get what im saying? this is nto muscular develop,, im trying to cross a point here to yuo fellas,,
look at kareem the new black muslim that came to your gymnasium 2 day ago...tsake a notice at kareem do you think kareem sit and eat 7 meal a day of chiken and brokly or replace his baked potato with seet potato?
kareem wil be lucky to have few milk cartons in the fridge and few cream cheee rolls and pancakes if hsi poor wife fatima had th emoney to buy it that week ,, WHAT FUCKIN DIET ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
DONT YOU SEE ALL THOSE FELLAS IN GYMNASIUM THAT DONT KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT BODYBULD WALKING 8% 175LB 5'9? all toned up with no diet pbut pizza and some diet pepsi and some wings from hooter lol
i dont get it are you fellas blind? are you that brain washed by muscular develop?
diet doesnt matter,, to get big and lean or even shredded and average TAKES HORMONES,, kareem is average fella with 8% he look good no diet what so ever he is lucky to get piecd of gyro to his mouth ...but mr tom sinsinati that sits 198lb 6% 5'9....he has so much hormones in his blood he wont even get out of his house to gymasium with out the right injection timed right,, then he will grab a piece of bar and go to gymnasium
diets lol
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i am not challenging your theories or disagree with your numbers ,percentages,,but clean i competed as middlweight low 170's 5'7 ish.
IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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i am not challenging your theories or disagree with your numbers ,percentages,,but clean i competed as middlweight low 170's 5'7 ish.
C L E A N is not natural ,, for the miliionth time,,i dont hve theories what i write is writen in stone,, it is bible for a reason ,, i seen and trained with all from top olympia to no ones,, 100s upon 100s,, the number i say ae writen in stone give or take few lbs
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IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
corect,, you will never see 170s fella 5'7 on stage truly natural ,, neevr ever,, unless he go on stage 10% ,,,this is possible at 10% but then its not 6% big diff between 6 and 10
you wil NEVER EVER see 5'7 on stage 170lb 6% truly natural no mater how many lies they spit
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what help do you need with diet ? dont yuoi get what im saying? this is nto muscular develop,, im trying to cross a point here to yuo fellas,,
People want EVERYTHING lined out for them. They get a diet, they follow it to a t and it helps them. Could they do it themself? yes. Does it make it easier for some people to just get something to follow? yes... It removed excuses and helps some people. This you should be able to realise. How pointless you still might think it is. Extra motivation for them also
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IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Or as musclecenter would say
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corect,, you will never see 170s fella 5'7 on stage truly natural ,, neevr ever,, unless he go on stage 10% ,,,this is possible at 10% but then its not 6% big diff between 6 and 10
you wil NEVER EVER see 5'7 on stage 170lb 6% truly natural no mater how many lies they spit
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like i said not debating or debunking u ,,is what it is.
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People want EVERYTHING lined out for them. They get a diet, they follow it to a t and it helps them. Could they do it themself? yes. Does it make it easier for some people to just get something to follow? yes...
read again what i wrote ,, yo missing the point,,
diet are good if you want to be 5'10 165lb on stage ,, this with litle halodrol in the offseason and some fat burner....this will get you down to 6% 165lb hoo la la ,, you put a shirt on no one will even know you lift weights,, with otu shirt on some fellas will say wow then go to their day like ntohign happen ,,
thre numbers are 1 6 5 lb 5 ' 10 for the best of the best 6%
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When I`m training for a show,I actually train hard and never miss a meal and I do a lot of cardio too.
I use gear,but I like to be really strict.......of course I never tried GH,as a result,I`m a small guy with shit for genetics to begin with.
I like being dedicated to my comittment to compete in the best condition I can attain.....if I ate shit for food and missed training days or meals,with my genetics I would look terrible.
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read again what i wrote ,, yo missing the point,,
diet are good if you want to be 5'10 165lb on stage ,, this with litle halodrol in the offseason and some fat burner....this will get you down to 6% 165lb hoo la la ,, you put a shirt on no one will even know you lift weights,, with otu shirt on some fellas will say wow then go to their day like ntohign happen ,,
thre numbers are 1 6 5 lb 5 ' 10 for the best of the best 6%
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read what I wrote gh15
Dried moose !
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HbxqgUlNUfI/Tagyk3w93tI/AAAAAAAAESQ/218LtaC4rd4/s1600/CIMG4433.JPG)
its up there with sushi my negga
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Or as musclecenter would say
(http://d37nnnqwv9amwr.cloudfront.net/photos/images/original/000/224/104/impo3_522923.jpg)
LOL ;D
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read what I wrote gh15
Dried moose !
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HbxqgUlNUfI/Tagyk3w93tI/AAAAAAAAESQ/218LtaC4rd4/s1600/CIMG4433.JPG)
its up there with sushi my negga
Looks fucking delicious!!
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read what I wrote gh15
Dried moose !
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HbxqgUlNUfI/Tagyk3w93tI/AAAAAAAAESQ/218LtaC4rd4/s1600/CIMG4433.JPG)
its up there with sushi my negga
yes look good,, some sushi with it will be good too ,, mix of it all
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I truly cannot describe what that looks like!! ;D
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im guessing it tastes like beef jerky, Swede?
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im guessing it tastes like beef jerky, Swede?
A million times better. Bought some beef jerkey a while back and was dissapointed since amercanos said it tasts good. Its nothing and I repeat NOTHING compared to this. I guess beef jerkey is the same thing but another animals.. dried meat and slightly smoked.
Aren't canadians big hunters? they should have hear about it I think
(http://www.fettdieten.se/sites/all/files/lattrokt_torkat_renkott(1).jpg)
really expensive though. Awesome Snack. I assume pretty healthy and rich in protein also.
(http://www.kickinorman.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/torrenkottjpg.jpg)
(http://zooot.blogg.se/images/2010/foto0209_85267183.jpg)
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42£ (54$) per 2.2 pounds. Could probably get it cheeper if you know a hunter. you dont need a lot though since its just a snack
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Or as musclecenter would say
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Like buselmo, diet alone did not for me, even the most perfect diet with no cheat meals. The time I introduced hormona to the equation I started getting leaner even eating dirty food.
Sad but real.
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Hormones FTW!
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Like buselmo, diet alone did not for me, even the most perfect diet with no cheat meals. The time I introduced hormona to the equation I started getting leaner even eating dirty food.
Sad but real.
x2...although eating clean food and being anal about every calorie works best
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alpha is right.. no one is saying that you cant get good results eating poorly and high dosing.. it happens all the time.. but if one is more anal in his diet he will be ahead of teh game in the long run..
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alpha is right.. no one is saying that you cant get good results eating poorly and high dosing.. it happens all the time.. but if one is more anal in his diet he will be ahead of teh game in the long run..
I think this is true when it comes to dieting. When it comes to packing on muscle, it doesn't matter as long as you don't go overboard and become really fat. A solid dose of hgh and tren should prevent that from happening if you did choose to go overboard. The water retention would suck though.
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alpha is right.. no one is saying that you cant get good results eating poorly and high dosing.. it happens all the time.. but if one is more anal in his diet he will be ahead of teh game in the long run..
you sure about it? i sugest you talk to some fellas who pm me about thos perfect diets fed to them by those scambags who ofcourse use the money to buy themselves more .....? you got that fucking right KIGTROPIN!
god i hate some fellas in the cult with pasion,, i will bring the end to some fellas on the website i will,,garenteed! mark my words you are moderator around....mark my words i will bring end END to thsoe filts because what i get in my pm box is CHILLING ,, i wish i could put it out but the felas afraid for their safety
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I think this is true when it comes to dieting. When it comes to packing on muscle, it doesn't matter as long as you don't go overboard and become really fat. A solid dose of hgh and tren should prevent that from happening if you did choose to go overboard. The water retention would suck though.
a solid dose og hgh and trenbolona TAKES OUT THE NEED FOR A DAMN DIET! ,,
how do you think fellas walk around 230lb 5'8 lol 195lb 5'5 lol what are you fellas crazy? seriolsuly did you lose some screw in the brain ,, those fellas only do drugs this is the main thing ,,,diet come second and third and forth only come in before competition few weeks,, you see shelby the way he look when lift heavy weight? he look like he never touch a weight in his damn life ,, puffed bloofed to the 9th degree,, you fellas just dont get it ,,the felas who actualy work and are careful with hormones...they are the ones who alway maintain good condition ,, they are the ones who get fucked! the wesses of the world..they are the ones who get fucked for they never grow...! ! ! they keep the drug intake moderate to small ,, they take attention to everything they do ,, they always look in good shape and good but they pay the price,,
the tropopinos and the danta and son group? they are bunch of filt disgusing scam of earth nothing more nothing less,, and dont suck dantas cock his time is gettign VERY VERY NEAR TO AN END,, what come in march 2012 is the end of abuse of innocent souls for many years ,, the end is near
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a solid dose og hgh and trenbolona TAKES OUT THE NEED FOR A DAMN DIET! ,,
how do you think fellas walk around 230lb 5'8 lol 195lb 5'5 lol what are you fellas crazy? seriolsuly did you lose some screw in the brain ,, those fellas only do drugs this is the main thing ,,,diet come second and third and forth only come in before competition few weeks,, you see shelby the way he look when lift heavy weight? he look like he never touch a weight in his damn life ,, puffed bloofed to the 9th degree,, you fellas just dont get it ,,the felas who actualy work and are careful with hormones...they are the ones who alway maintain good condition ,, they are the ones who get fucked! the wesses of the world..they are the ones who get fucked for they never grow...! ! ! they keep the drug intake moderate to small ,, they take attention to everything they do ,, they always look in good shape and good but they pay the price,,
the tropopinos and the danta and son group? they are bunch of filt disgusing scam of earth nothing more nothing less,, and dont suck dantas cock his time is gettign VERY VERY NEAR TO AN END,, what come in march 2012 is the end of abuse of innocent souls for many years ,, the end is near
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No I was talking about dieting down, not building muscle. micromanaging your diet when cutting fat is more effective than not worrying about what you eat. Of course the more hgh and tren you do, the less anal you need to be with diet. I know you agree with this. I said just eating a lot builds muscle, regardless of what it is. I think anyone that pays for a guru has put his money in the wrong place
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a solid dose og hgh and trenbolona TAKES OUT THE NEED FOR A DAMN DIET! ,,
how do you think fellas walk around 230lb 5'8 lol 195lb 5'5 lol what are you fellas crazy? seriolsuly did you lose some screw in the brain ,, those fellas only do drugs this is the main thing ,,,diet come second and third and forth only come in before competition few weeks,, you see shelby the way he look when lift heavy weight? he look like he never touch a weight in his damn life ,, puffed bloofed to the 9th degree,, you fellas just dont get it ,,the felas who actualy work and are careful with hormones...they are the ones who alway maintain good condition ,, they are the ones who get fucked! the wesses of the world..they are the ones who get fucked for they never grow...! ! ! they keep the drug intake moderate to small ,, they take attention to everything they do ,, they always look in good shape and good but they pay the price,,
the tropopinos and the danta and son group? they are bunch of filt disgusing scam of earth nothing more nothing less,, and dont suck dantas cock his time is gettign VERY VERY NEAR TO AN END,, what come in march 2012 is the end of abuse of innocent souls for many years ,, the end is near
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Bullshit LOL. Diet is not THAT meaningless. You make it sound like anyone can eat donuts all day and McDonalds, and skip meals here and skip meals there and walk around dry and shredded to the bone, looking like contest shape. Or even anything close to it.
I ain't sayin you need to eat like a bird, brocolli and rice, but if you go SERIOUSLY overboard on carbs, you will look like a fucking swimming pool no matter what drugs you are on. And depending how much water you are holding, you can look like you are fucking 15% bodyfat on a wet day when in reality you are like 6%. If you could just sail through everything, the fucking pros would look like gold 24/7.. Even back in the day before Insulina abuse, some bodybuilders... actually many still couldn't get in shape even for the damn stage.
Munzer.. the greatest abuser of them all had a ridiculously sharp diet along with the drug intake.
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Bullshit LOL. Diet is not THAT meaningless. You make it sound like anyone can eat donuts all day and McDonalds, and skip meals here and skip meals there and walk around dry and shredded to the bone, looking like contest shape. Or even anything close to it.
I ain't sayin you need to eat like a bird, brocolli and rice, but if you go SERIOUSLY overboard on carbs, you will look like a fucking swimming pool no matter what drugs you are on. And depending how much water you are holding, you can look like you are fucking 15% bodyfat on a wet day when in reality you are like 6%. If you could just sail through everything, the fucking pros would look like gold 24/7.. Even back in the day before Insulina abuse, some bodybuilders... actually many still couldn't get in shape even for the damn stage.
Munzer.. the greatest abuser of them all had a ridiculously sharp diet along with the drug intake.
i never say you goingto be dry to the bone....yoru first 2 3 sentences is not what i said,, re read what i say
your second paragraph ...i wish it was true but it is not,, i can tell you first hand ,, from competetive bodybuild that the more gh you take the less there is need for diet ,, the end
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i never say you goingto be dry to the bone....yoru first 2 3 sentences is not what i said,, re read what i say
your second paragraph ...i wish it was true but it is not,, i can tell you first hand ,, from competetive bodybuild that the more gh you take the less there is need for diet ,, the end
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*< runs quickly to place order for some GH >* ;D
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gh15,how about when we see pros looking "bloofy".......what are they on and how is their diet?
Thanks!! :)
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i never say you goingto be dry to the bone....yoru first 2 3 sentences is not what i said,, re read what i say
your second paragraph ...i wish it was true but it is not,, i can tell you first hand ,, from competetive bodybuild that the more gh you take the less there is need for diet ,, the end
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Even back in the day, a bunch of guys would still never be in shape. Arnold was never in INSANE shape a day in his life. I'm talking cut to the fucking bone.
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it realy is very simple but you need to listen what i say here,, resad it very slow so it is understood,,
when you take hgh into blood the fat burning aspect is as follow...
immediatly upon introsuction within first mili second fat is started to melt,, yes yes fat start to be worked on and realse within first momnet hgh go into blood,,,now at the same time ...SOME WATER RETENTION OCCURE....under this water new fibers are being created...you can see them in the 3 dimentional look your body take within couple days...but...the fat goes down while WATER GOES UP ,, with best gh as in phamra grade the water is low and the lines keep on improving but stil you have some water retention ....THAT IS IT..
there is no extra fat,, there is no occumilation of new fat,, you can eat whatevr the fuck you want ,, 3 or 4 normal meals a day and fat will not increase but decrease...
what will happen if you eat regular diet ...high in sodium...well the water WATER retention will increase it will be low due to the quality hgh but it will be little higher due to higher sodium etc which is good its good this is what you fucking want...
now!,, fat only go south ,, never increas only decrease while water go little higher cover COVER the physiqe most of it within the muscle that give you impressive look and litle of it between skin and muscle...well not little but % of it...
now!,, when you take gh out! is when water completly go ! and then!! you see what gh is and what it does,, the water go away within couple weeks and sudenly all this so call fat you thought you had..which ws indeed water....go away it hardens since it goes away like good lypo suction but only for water..you sudenly see the physiqe take a whole rugged apperance yet doesnt get smaller on you but remain REMAIN 3 dimentional!
this is why gh is superb ,,this is why diet not needed,, this is why senator shelby stern can walk around 190 lb 5'5 and this is why bunch of filts like tropopino make money for they take gh on themselves while to you they give lots of brown rice ,,
you get it now? good
gh15 approved
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Even back in the day, a bunch of guys would still never be in shape. Arnold was never in INSANE shape a day in his life. I'm talking cut to the fucking bone.
arnold didnt haev syntetic gh constantly in blood like today jokes,, its al in the hgh ,, the 60s and 70s fellas had much less to play with ,,
now day 75% of the fellas dont even need to do bodybuild,, the danta gang would be selling flowers in funeral homes if were bodybuild back in the 60s and 70s,, they are all gh ,, its filt after filt ,, it is scam of earth ,, it is disgusting
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Cool !!
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I don't understand why someone with a brain would spend so much money on this guru's -.- ::) ::) ::)
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LOOOOOL
I hear ya bro... i'd much rather be eating cookies and cereal and getting down to 8% fat without any effort and gain some muscle in 3 months than dieting my ass off, hate my life, work really hard just to get to 4% in 3 months while losing 10 lbs of muscle in the process
gonna take pics tomorrow (after i shave this damn sweater they call body hair) and show the results of depending on diet and cardio for 5 weeks... then depending on drugs while basically eating what i want in small quantities for another 5 weeks with a lot of fat burners and little cardio
basically first 5 weeks, nothing happened and i was at 96 kg all the time...
last 5 weeks, lost 2 inches off the waist and i'm at 92.5 kg
I know right ?!?!?!
I realised that this year, what's the point in having no life for 3 months when you actually look MUCH better in clothes at 8% eating like crap.
I am really sick and tired of getting ripped just to finish looking lanky with some veins
I prefer taking low doses og hgh year round so I will stay lean and not destroy my wallet trying to take 10-15iu a day, take roids, eat what I want, enjoy life and looking like a shorter version of Dwayne Johnson (a look that make all the pussy wet)
fuck bodybuilding shows, all hail perma-gh-bulk 8)
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I know right ?!?!?!
I realised that this year, what's the point in having no life for 3 months when you actually look MUCH better in clothes at 8% eating like crap.
I am really sick and tired of getting ripped just to finish looking lanky with some veins
I prefer taking low doses og hgh year round so I will stay lean and not destroy my wallet trying to take 10-15iu a day, take roids, eat what I want, enjoy life and looking like a shorter version of Dwayne Johnson (a look that make all the pussy wet)
fuck bodybuilding shows, all hail perma-gh-bulk 8)
bad gebetics, or sour grapes...or finally seeing the light that Go4It was shining?
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bad gebetics, or sour grapes...or finally seeing the light that Go4It was shining?
I don't look like Go4IT at all and I am not as good looking as him facially
he looks like a model, I'm just a big wide dude with bad muscle shape
but I am fine with it 8)
don't want to waste my time on doing shows anymore, I am learning this from my body "no one" who understood his muscle bellies won't cut it in bodybuilding shows
this is also my case
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I don't look like Go4IT at all and I am not as good looking as him facially
he looks like a model, I'm just a big wide dude with bad muscle shape
but I am fine with it 8)
don't want to waste my time on doing shows anymore, I am learning this from my body "no one" who understood his muscle bellies won't cut it in bodybuilding shows
this is also my case
not true , not your case , your fouad abiad new generation
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not true , not your case , your fouad abiad new generation
Agree w BLP- You're selling yourself short. You can most definitely make a splash competitively!
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Agree w BLP- You're selling yourself short. You can most definitely make a splash competitively!
we will see with time, maybe in a few years when I will be up in muscle mass I'll have the desire to compete again
but now I am too light to fight too thin to win
but on hgh year round plus lot of gear while eating like shit, I'm sure I'll gain some muscle anyway 8)
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Agree w BLP- You're selling yourself short. You can most definitely make a splash competitively!
he wont quit for size ,,, once 280 ,, he will know he can compete ,,
took me 12 years , i guess stav can do in 3-4 years with right gh budget , and we know th good salary will hit him soon
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the key for you fellas is to undrstand that there is no nice fellas as you say so in bodybuild lol they are all crooks,, you do not fucking get it ,, fellas whos original weight natural woudl be hardly 140-150lb ....that then compete first show 158...then go to the high 90s ...all being 5'5 even if 5'7 still very litle fella and he say himself horrid genettic frame for top bodybuild..since the frame is only thing mater see new pro tod...he doesnt hav good genetic he has good frame!
so for you to actualy buy into the nice fella ,, i hire him for he is nice fella ,, diet diet diet ...this would be nice in 2004 ...before gh15 arrived
the reaility of the matter and this is importent to digest here and i will try to be as polite as i can
he need to come out and tell you,, this is wha i did first show to step on stage 158...i weould never do it with out the following drugs!,,
and then he need to come and say ...and THEN came human growth hormone that with out it i would never go into no light heavy ever!
he need to talk abotu the drugs that take 90% of the size he gathered ,, you fellas dont understand how big is 190 4% 5'5 you have no clue,,im very dissapointed in this tred and postings,, it realy show the ones here who wil end up as gymnasium rats,, you can see them growing ...you can actualy see theri dreams when they are 18...and then through 21 to 23..to 25 and you can see how they accept their gym rat status liek fella who is used to prison life
it is the worst cult in the world bodybuild ,, it is really i dont knwo how to describe it but realy sick fellas,,not physicaly but mentaly ,, i mean it
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What is the solution?
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Bullshit LOL. Diet is not THAT meaningless. You make it sound like anyone can eat donuts all day and McDonalds, and skip meals here and skip meals there and walk around dry and shredded to the bone, looking like contest shape. Or even anything close to it.
I ain't sayin you need to eat like a bird, brocolli and rice, but if you go SERIOUSLY overboard on carbs, you will look like a fucking swimming pool no matter what drugs you are on. And depending how much water you are holding, you can look like you are fucking 15% bodyfat on a wet day when in reality you are like 6%. If you could just sail through everything, the fucking pros would look like gold 24/7.. Even back in the day before Insulina abuse, some bodybuilders... actually many still couldn't get in shape even for the damn stage.
Munzer.. the greatest abuser of them all had a ridiculously sharp diet along with the drug intake.
x1000. If I go overboard on carbs, I look like a fat mess even though it's all water. It's a horrible look
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it realy is very simple but you need to listen what i say here,, resad it very slow so it is understood,,
when you take hgh into blood the fat burning aspect is as follow...
immediatly upon introsuction within first mili second fat is started to melt,, yes yes fat start to be worked on and realse within first momnet hgh go into blood,,,now at the same time ...SOME WATER RETENTION OCCURE....under this water new fibers are being created...you can see them in the 3 dimentional look your body take within couple days...but...the fat goes down while WATER GOES UP ,, with best gh as in phamra grade the water is low and the lines keep on improving but stil you have some water retention ....THAT IS IT..
there is no extra fat,, there is no occumilation of new fat,, you can eat whatevr the fuck you want ,, 3 or 4 normal meals a day and fat will not increase but decrease...
what will happen if you eat regular diet ...high in sodium...well the water WATER retention will increase it will be low due to the quality hgh but it will be little higher due to higher sodium etc which is good its good this is what you fucking want...
now!,, fat only go south ,, never increas only decrease while water go little higher cover COVER the physiqe most of it within the muscle that give you impressive look and litle of it between skin and muscle...well not little but % of it...
now!,, when you take gh out! is when water completly go ! and then!! you see what gh is and what it does,, the water go away within couple weeks and sudenly all this so call fat you thought you had..which ws indeed water....go away it hardens since it goes away like good lypo suction but only for water..you sudenly see the physiqe take a whole rugged apperance yet doesnt get smaller on you but remain REMAIN 3 dimentional!
this is why gh is superb ,,this is why diet not needed,, this is why senator shelby stern can walk around 190 lb 5'5 and this is why bunch of filts like tropopino make money for they take gh on themselves while to you they give lots of brown rice ,,
you get it now? good
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I am going on a cruise for 7 nights in the middle of March. How soon before the cruise should I drop hgh? I was thinking of not dropping until the last day so that all the crap food and alcohol I consume on the ship isn't stored as fat. What should I do?
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I am going on a cruise for 7 nights in the middle of March. How soon before the cruise should I drop hgh? I was thinking of not dropping until the last day so that all the crap food and alcohol I consume on the ship isn't stored as fat. What should I do?
Relax and have fun bro!!
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Relax and have fun bro!!
Bingo. I'd cut it out maybe a week before and start relaxing even then. The less stressed I am, the better I look. Or perhaps I'm just happiest when I look my best?
Either way, the two are always in tandem. I usually drop anything that causes water retention a bit before I travel as they're usually harsher compounds (not GH, but AAS and oral ones in particular). Pin whatever I'm running AAS-wise right before I leave, then put on my Hata Blockas like big JC and live the dream for a week or two. 8)
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DROP IT 10.3 DAYS OUT, REMEMBER TO STOP THE GRASS FED CREATINE ALSO ABOUT 8 DAYS OUT AT LEAST.
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Relax and have fun bro!!
I'm not going to relax. I will party my ass of. Plenty of time to relax when I get home
Bingo. I'd cut it out maybe a week before and start relaxing even then. The less stressed I am, the better I look. Or perhaps I'm just happiest when I look my best?
Either way, the two are always in tandem. I usually drop anything that causes water retention a bit before I travel as they're usually harsher compounds (not GH, but AAS and oral ones in particular). Pin whatever I'm running AAS-wise right before I leave, then put on my Hata Blockas like big JC and live the dream for a week or two. 8)
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no way. If I'm cutting it a week before, I need to be dam sure to micromanage every little calorie and carb so I look my best. Not taking any chances. I'll take a shot of test-e (so I have test in my system) and my usual test-p and tren-a the morning I leave. Then I will proceed to live the dream
DROP IT 10.3 DAYS OUT, REMEMBER TO STOP THE GRASS FED CREATINE ALSO ABOUT 8 DAYS OUT AT LEAST.
I dropped creatine 3 months ago. Never going to take it again either I don't think. It made absolutely no difference
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no way. If I'm cutting it a week before, I need to be dam sure to micromanage every little calorie and carb so I look my best. Not taking any chances. I'll take a shot of test-e (so I have test in my system) and my usual test-p and tren-a the morning I leave. Then I will proceed to live the dream
Yeah? I never really got that much bloat from GH so I didn't know it's that much of a detriment.
Usually a day or two of lower water and some extra short esters with masteron in particular dries me right out. I take a little extra mast leading up to whatever it is I want to look shredded for and that usually does the trick. I'm Filipino too so I usually hold a lot more water than others (I'm extremely lean, but I still feel bloated you know)
Either way, hope you look and feel good, mang.
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Starnes knows his shit. I'd hire him.
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Speaking of good guys and masters of nutritition , do not forget about John Meadows aka Mountaindog ...doesnt get any more classy than that dude...trust me....his training methos are sick...each session changes in order of exercises, the order excesises are performed... i trained wtih a guy he was prepping and my body got sculpted like never before.
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I don't get it????
mindless gossip..
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Bullshit LOL. Diet is not THAT meaningless. You make it sound like anyone can eat donuts all day and McDonalds, and skip meals here and skip meals there and walk around dry and shredded to the bone, looking like contest shape. Or even anything close to it.
I ain't sayin you need to eat like a bird, brocolli and rice, but if you go SERIOUSLY overboard on carbs, you will look like a fucking swimming pool no matter what drugs you are on. And depending how much water you are holding, you can look like you are fucking 15% bodyfat on a wet day when in reality you are like 6%. If you could just sail through everything, the fucking pros would look like gold 24/7.. Even back in the day before Insulina abuse, some bodybuilders... actually many still couldn't get in shape even for the damn stage.
Munzer.. the greatest abuser of them all had a ridiculously sharp diet along with the drug intake.
Stage condition is extreme, to get there you must follow a very strict diet along with drugs in your system, but to walk lean 7% year round one of the above will be enough.
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Speaking of good guys and masters of nutritition , do not forget about John Meadows aka Mountaindog ...doesnt get any more classy than that dude...trust me....his training methos are sick...each session changes in order of exercises, the order excesises are performed... i trained wtih a guy he was prepping and my body got sculpted like never before.
Agreed,John`s a nice guy who knows his stuff!
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Speaking of good guys and masters of nutritition , do not forget about John Meadows aka Mountaindog ...doesnt get any more classy than that dude...trust me....his training methos are sick...each session changes in order of exercises, the order excesises are performed... i trained wtih a guy he was prepping and my body got sculpted like never before.
what????? Mr. grass fed man himself? Suggesting people spend 5x the amount on food like that as opposed to normal food that will yield exactly the same results?
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Yeah? I never really got that much bloat from GH so I didn't know it's that much of a detriment.
Usually a day or two of lower water and some extra short esters with masteron in particular dries me right out. I take a little extra mast leading up to whatever it is I want to look shredded for and that usually does the trick. I'm Filipino too so I usually hold a lot more water than others (I'm extremely lean, but I still feel bloated you know)
Either way, hope you look and feel good, mang.
I get water retention either way. I am using rips if that mean anything. People say it gives more water retention but I have never used another HGH brand so I have nothing to compare it to. The thing is I want to look good for an entire week, not just one day.
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what????? Mr. grass fed man himself? Suggesting people spend 5x the amount on food like that as opposed to normal food that will yield exactly the same results?
hahah, i saw that too on his website complete waste of money, he is a very hard trainer though, he trains at the EliteFTS gym with Dave Tate, theres a bunch of videos of them training on the EliteFTS account on youtube.
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what????? Mr. grass fed man himself? Suggesting people spend 5x the amount on food like that as opposed to normal food that will yield exactly the same results?
he promotes it more so for health reasons and u kno that....his training is sik with it...idk why you gotta be so disrespectful in how you talk about a guy like this, that tries to help people be healthier..i rememeber some of your threads from back on promuscle....i rememeber one in particular when you were asking "HELPPP me with my cholesterol problems" and your 25 fckn years old...im glad you got tha diet shit figured out amd...
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he promotes it more so for health reasons and u kno that....his training is sik with it...idk why you gotta be so disrespectful in how you talk about a guy like this, that tries to help people be healthier..i rememeber some of your threads from back on promuscle....i rememeber one in particular when you were asking "HELPPP me with my cholesterol problems" and your 25 fckn years old...im glad you got tha diet shit figured out amd...
lol who the hell is this jabroni. Actually I don't care
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Starnes knows his shit. I'd hire him.
You still alive?
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LoL at "senator shelby stern" and "tropopino." :D
Goddamn he was funny.
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GH15 still alive?
Would love to see a back and forth with he and BHank-a-Dank...
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Would like to see if the gh15 era forumcels had any longevity.
Thread didn't age too well with regard to good guy shelby and "focused on health" John meadows
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Would like to see if the gh15 era forumcels had any longevity.
Thread didn't age too well with regard to good guy shelby and "focused on health" John meadows
Yup... And a close call with "dustin" as well. Was the Getbigger "dustin" Mr. Hanshaw?
I like Dusty, but the old "I do tiny cycles" and "I barely take anything" thing is a bit hard to believe...
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Yup... And a close call with "dustin" as well. Was the Getbigger "dustin" Mr. Hanshaw?
I like Dusty, but the old "I do tiny cycles" and "I barely take anything" thing is a bit hard to believe swallow...
Fixed that for you ;D
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Would like to see if the gh15 era forumcels had any longevity.
Thread didn't age too well with regard to good guy shelby and "focused on health" John meadows
Gesh, no kidding.
2007 era of GH15 EQ, Winny, Tren….would love to see those cholesterol numbers on any of those participants that kept hitting that throughout the years.
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Gesh, no kidding.
2007 era of GH15 EQ, Winny, Tren….would love to see those cholesterol numbers on any of those participants that kept hitting that throughout the years.
Inspiring dumb kids to take big doses of hgh was also crazy. There must be a lot of acceleration of genetics defects/tumours from that. It's probably why the longevity of pros really took a hit from the 90s generation onwards.
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Yup... And a close call with "dustin" as well. Was the Getbigger "dustin" Mr. Hanshaw?
I like Dusty, but the old "I do tiny cycles" and "I barely take anything" thing is a bit hard to believe...
That Dustin was a chinky looking guy. He fell foul of the gh15 cult and had some elves turn up to his gym and I think his family might have got doxxed as well.
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Yup... And a close call with "dustin" as well. Was the Getbigger "dustin" Mr. Hanshaw?
I like Dusty, but the old "I do tiny cycles" and "I barely take anything" thing is a bit hard to believe...
It wasn't Hanshaw just se kid named Dustin. Quite a bit has come out on what a scammer gh15 is or whoever he is now. His fees from sources, all the free gear he's supposed to get, and I guess at some point he started wanting a percentage of sales from sources. All the talk of filt and in the end he was a total scammer
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If you read gh15's posts on this thread, his analysis of senator shelby stern is gold. And correct! People always made the mistake of thinking of him just being someone who talked about everyone being on astronomical doses but it was more than that. It was also delivered in an extremely humorous way.
Lots of people were reading getbig back then just for his posts. And most denied it.
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He is correct about the drugs, HGH, etc. Dont need to count every morsel, every macro.
Shelby is 5'5" and went up 50 lbs. No amount of food-stuffing will do that without looking like a fat guy.
Food is important, but the gear and GH is what got him his 50 lbs...
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He is correct about the drugs, HGH, etc. Dont need to count every morsel, every macro.
Shelby is 5'5" and went up 50 lbs. No amount of food-stuffing will do that without looking like a fat guy.
Food is important, but the gear and GH is what got him his 50 lbs...
OF COURSE,,
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It wasn't Hanshaw just se kid named Dustin. Quite a bit has come out on what a scammer gh15 is or whoever he is now. His fees from sources, all the free gear he's supposed to get, and I guess at some point he started wanting a percentage of sales from sources. All the talk of filt and in the end he was a total scammer
gh15 was right about a lot of things, but he was in this for the money.
The guys running that account probably made off with a shit ton of money.
He would also shake down sources for money.
A bunch of guys who were originally close to gh15 and helped started his website/forum exposed a bunch of this on a private forum that is no longer around.
All lies to push drugs. The Kigs, Strango, etc. All used to make money off people. He endorsed things to make a profit. Had his elves working PM's to suggest sources so gh15 didn't have to say anything. Strango made millions, but was a moron and ended up in prison.
However, i don't think he endorsed anything that was bad, so i give him credit for that.