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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: ironneck on January 16, 2012, 11:21:32 PM
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250mg TE every 5 days
will keep you updated
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soon i will be competing at the arnold and the mr o, already getting the philsulina arms
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I don't get it ... 250 a day or every 5th day?
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250mg testo enanthat every 5 days
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every 5th day, sorry
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soon i will be competing at the arnold and the mr o, already getting the philsulina arms
;D
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Why? Why don't you shoot 1 amp every day until you run out of stuff?
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Why? Why don't you shoot 1 amp every day until you run out of stuff?
isnt that too crazy? and too expensive dude, i want to run that shit 3 months and then get ripped for summer with ECA
i weigh 90kg right now, i will take 250mg every 5th day the first six weeks and the last 6 weeks i will take 500mg every 5th day
the last cycle i did was when i was 17 so it's pretty much like a new experience, how much pure musclemass can i expect? 3-5kg after 12 weeks?
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isnt that too crazy? and too expensive dude, i want to run that shit 3 months and then get ripped for summer with ECA
i weigh 90kg right now, i will take 250mg every 5th day the first six weeks and the last 6 weeks i will take 500mg every 5th day
the last cycle i did was when i was 17 so it's pretty much like a new experience, how much pure musclemass can i expect? 3-5kg after 12 weeks?
I was serious. Pop an amp daily and switch from enanthate to a blend like omna or sustanon. You'll be fine. If it's legit pharma grade it is worth the money. I think you will respond great to that dosage and will impress many naysayers
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thanks for the advice, think i will try it this way first, still young and plenty of cycles ahead of me :D haha
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thanks for the advice, think i will try it this way first, still young and plenty of cycles ahead of me :D haha
I just think it is very little. At least do 500 mg weekly .. like the bare minimum
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I just think it is very little. At least do 500 mg weekly .. like the bare minimum
yeah i thought about it, im very curious how it will work, time will tell
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yeah i thought about it, im very curious how it will work, time will tell
250 once every 5 days won't yeld spectacular results .. do an amp daily or one every other day. Most likely it is underdosed so you'll be ok
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the last cycle i did was when i was 17 so it's pretty much like a new experience, how much pure musclemass can i expect? 3-5kg after 12 weeks?
some claim you can gain that on creatine
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what a shitty cycle, waste of juice IMO
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I just think it is very little. At least do 500 mg weekly .. like the bare minimum
i agree I dont know how these people claim great gains on less maybe if your really short and dont have much body weight.
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i agree I dont know how these people claim great gains on less maybe of your really short and dont have much body weight.
I'd pop an amp a day. Between the underdosage and the response he should be ok and gain some serious mass in 3 months.
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u pop a gram or so a week I guarntee you'll be pulling that 400-500 you missed in that video
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Good luck bro :).
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I just think it is very little. At least do 500 mg weekly .. like the bare minimum
^THIS^
Good luck my brother! :)
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since you from germany - what do you use : norma, galenikas, cidos ...???
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test or no test you look like shit
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What Sev said Ironneck at least 500mg weekly...should have thrown an anabolic in there also.
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use another compound. Never use test alone its balonie.
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use another compound. Never use test alone its balonie.
He`s been clean a long time,he should make great gains on test alone.
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use another compound. Never use test alone its balonie.
test alone is great ..
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500mg per week taken 3 days apart is good advice with no other components.
50mg per day might not feel much different than taking nothing after a few weeks when you endogenous test has shut down.
So if it does not feel that good anymore being on test up the dose a bit :)
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better gains with an androgen and anabolic together....Test/deca, test/eq, test/primo, test/winny...whatever. test alone is ok it's not great.
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test alone is great ..
I think he'd do better of 900 Eq/week and D-bol @ 50mg/day 4 weeks on 4-6weeks off and so on.
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I think he'd do better of 900 Eq/week and D-bol @ 50mg/day 4 weeks on 4-6weeks off and so on.
I think it is purely a dosage issue rather than getting all scientific about it
Just pop in test as much as he can afford
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throw in 600mg EQ per week and 40-50mg dbol daily then you got yourself a cycle.if you can afford HGH use at least 4-6 IU's if you can afford more use 6-8 Iu's
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All great advice but I still stick to my guns at 500 mgs. test per week....he`s been clean for years,he`s not training for a contest,why waste cash,he can always bump it up after gains slow down.
USE YOUR FUCKING HEADS!! ;D
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fucking americans and their 10g WEEKLY FIRST CYCLE BABY! ALL OUT!!! 500MG AINT SHIT!!! 1g ED FIRST DAY IN THE GYM!!! NOT JUST ONE COMPUND do THREE!!! ALL OUT!!! RIGHT AWAY!!!!!!
500mg e5d is a good first cycle. (I know you took some dbol when you were 11 like all turks do) You will see how you react and can use that knowledge in cycles after. Good luck!
Starting with two compunds imo would be stupid since if you get Bad effects, side effects, you dont know which one causes it.
12 weeks?
500mg e5d 12 weeks in the standard first cycle Outside of US.
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fucking americans and their 10g WEEKLY FIRST CYCLE BABY! ALL OUT!!! 500MG AINT SHIT!!! 1g ED FIRST DAY IN THE GYM!!! ::)
500mg e5d is a good first cycle. (I know you took some bdol when you were 11 like all turks do) You will see how you react and can use that knowledge in cycles after. Good luck!
Starting with two compunds imo would be stupid since if you get Bad effects, side effects, you dont know which one causes it.
12 weeks?
500mg e5d 12 weeks in the standard first cycle Outside of US.
Thank you for the voice of reason.
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Thank Brock you chimmied in otherwise he could've killed himself ;D
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Swede, stop hating on Americans.
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Thank you for the voice of reason.
dont understand why people want to rush EVERYTHING lol.
Its also a good first cycle to see if he can stay serious and eat good and train hard.
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Swede, stop hating on Americans.
;D
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dont understand why people want to rush EVERYTHING lol.
GENERATION NOTHINGNESS !!
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GENERATION NOTHINGNESS !!
(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/c/7/c7533-TreyBrewerBulked.jpg)
...I remember when I was Sooo impressed with this photo haha. "omg hes so heavy!!"
Oh the good ol days.
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GENERATION NOTHINGNESS !!
time is futile. Carpe diem!
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(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/c/7/c7533-TreyBrewerBulked.jpg)
...I remember when I was Sooo impressed with this photo haha. "omg hes so heavy!!"
Oh the good ol days.
I never thought the guy would go anywhere,though he did look good in his only amateur win.
Too much hype for nothing extraordinary IMO.
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I never thought the guy would go anywhere,though he did look good in his only amateur win.
Too much hype for nothing extraordinary IMO.
this photo is still impressive though
(http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/forums/attachments/bodybuilding-discussion/11975d1199339263-trey-brewer-47328tc.jpg)
I guess he upped the dosages without needing it
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fucking americans and their 10g WEEKLY FIRST CYCLE BABY! ALL OUT!!! 500MG AINT SHIT!!! 1g ED FIRST DAY IN THE GYM!!! NOT JUST ONE COMPUND do THREE!!! ALL OUT!!! RIGHT AWAY!!!!!!
500mg e5d is a good first cycle. (I know you took some dbol when you were 11 like all turks do) You will see how you react and can use that knowledge in cycles after. Good luck!
Starting with two compunds imo would be stupid since if you get Bad effects, side effects, you dont know which one causes it.
12 weeks?
500mg e5d 12 weeks in the standard first cycle Outside of US.
In Germany it's usually 16 or 20 weeks.
If you are already on, just stay on for a while, 8 or 10 weeks is utter bullshit.
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In Germany it's usually 16 or 20 weeks.
If you are already on, just stay on for a while, 8 or 10 weeks is utter bullshit.
Once you're ON you're ON. You can no longer be a natty so why stopping?
The only reason i see for stopping is if i ran out of cash.
10weeks is a joke.
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In Germany it's usually 16 or 20 weeks.
If you are already on, just stay on for a while, 8 or 10 weeks is utter bullshit.
20 to me sounds A lot for first real cycle.
and here another rule which some people would laugh at. are you ready.. after the cycle, stay Off for twice the ammount of weeks you were on
:o :o :o
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20 to me sounds A lot for first real cycle.
and here another rule which some people would laugh at. are you ready.. after the cycle, stay Off for twice the ammount of weeks you were on
:o :o :o
If you are running EQ in your first cycle it makes sense to stay for 20-25 weeks.
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If you are running EQ in your first cycle it makes sense to stay for 20-25 weeks.
yes, eq should be longer. I thought he was talking about testo E though. Should "kick" after 4-6 weeks and then another solid 6 weeks on.
If he reacts good to testo e. maby anotehr 12-15 weeks cycle a little bit higher dosages and include prop for the first 6 weeks for a reward right away.
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this photo is still impressive though
(http://www.bodybuildingdungeon.com/forums/attachments/bodybuilding-discussion/11975d1199339263-trey-brewer-47328tc.jpg)
I guess he upped the dosages without needing it
Looks good, but legs too big,but it`s Ok,because having good proportions today is not a big deal.
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In Germany it's usually 16 or 20 weeks.
If you are already on, just stay on for a while, 8 or 10 weeks is utter bullshit.
^THIS^
Once you're ON you're ON. You can no longer be a natty so why stopping?
The only reason i see for stopping is if i ran out of cash.
10weeks is a joke.
^AND THIS ^............personal decision though.
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Hope it works better than your last cycle.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=162782.0;attach=187176;image)
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who do you have that shit saved? ;D
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who do you have that shit saved? ;D
I don't, if I had it saved it would be an attachement.
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I don't, if I had it saved it would be an attachement.
I thought it was when the link is like this "http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=162782.0;attach=187176;image"
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That's a saved pic
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alright, saved pics adds a line under it. good to know!
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^THIS^
^AND THIS ^............personal decision though.
Yep, again, I agree with the second one as well.
Why go off and go through a hormone rollercoaster, just stay on, increase the doses slowly or change compounds, that gives not only better results but also is better for your health than 10 weeks on, 5 weeks cancer medication, 10 weeks off and then the next cycle with doubled doses. ::) ::) ::)
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fucking americans and their 10g WEEKLY FIRST CYCLE BABY! ALL OUT!!! 500MG AINT SHIT!!! 1g ED FIRST DAY IN THE GYM!!! NOT JUST ONE COMPUND do THREE!!! ALL OUT!!! RIGHT AWAY!!!!!!
500mg e5d is a good first cycle. (I know you took some dbol when you were 11 like all turks do) You will see how you react and can use that knowledge in cycles after. Good luck!
Starting with two compunds imo would be stupid since if you get Bad effects, side effects, you dont know which one causes it.
12 weeks?
500mg e5d 12 weeks in the standard first cycle Outside of US.
btw my first cycle was 250 e5 and my haematocrit levels were already around 54-55, which can be life-threatening according to my doc when the blood gets so thick and clogs the arteries (heart-attack, stroke,..).
500 e5 for first cycle? Good luck ;D
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Why go off and go through a hormone rollercoaster, just stay on, increase the doses slowly or change compounds, that gives not only better results but also is better for your health than 10 weeks on, 5 weeks cancer medication, 10 weeks off and then the next cycle with doubled doses. ::) ::) ::)
are there any proof of this? it does make sense but.. Im sayining Double the weeks Off compared to what you're on. So no super rollercoster at least, and Not double the dosages like a dummy.
not everyone wants to stay on forever and be a slave to teh needle. and then ofc it costs money.
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btw my first cycle was 250 e5 and my haematocrit levels were already around 54-55, which can be life-threatening according to my doc when the blood gets so thick and clogs the arteries (heart-attack, stroke,..).
500 e5 for first cycle? Good luck ;D
I guess aas isn't for you ;D
did you try another compund or what did you do? how was your diet? did you do cardio?
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are there any proof of this? it does make sense but.. Im sayining Double the weeks Off compared to what you're on. So no super rollercoster at least, and Not double the dosages like a dummy.
not everyone wants to stay on forever and be a slave to teh needle. and then ofc it costs money.
Well, if you want to go anywhere in BB, you will stay on.
Have you ever been on?
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I guess aas isn't for you ;D
did you try another compund or what did you do? how was your diet? did you do cardio?
No other compounds, just regular, legit Testo Enantate (pharmacy stuff). Diet was normal, not super-strict but also not junk only. Cardio several times per week.
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Well, if you want to go anywhere in BB, you will stay on.
Have you ever been on?
I should have mentioned that, what Im talking about is "normal" users, people who doesn't want to step on stage.. If you're "stupid" enough to want that, just stay on ;D
Im all carrot juice ;D
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No other compounds, just regular, legit Testo Enantate (pharmacy stuff). Diet was normal, not super-strict but also not junk only. Cardio several times per week.
strange shit. imagine what would have happened on a few grams ;D
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That`s why I said staying on is a personal choice,as is gear use in the first place.
Staying on is a good thing,unless it`s not for you personally.
Confused ???
LOL ;D
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Staying on is a good thing,unless it`s not for you personally.
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That`s why I said staying on is a personal choice,as is gear use in the first place.
Staying on is a good thing,unless it`s not for you personally.
Confused ???
LOL ;D
x2.
Basically I think I could stay on 250 e7d for the rest of my life, just that makes you feel so much better than natural.
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x2.
Basically I think I could stay on 250 e7d for the rest of my life, just that makes you feel so much better than natural.
wouldn't some testo gel or some shit like that reach those levels? or do you prefer injecting?
I doubt I will live to see 40-50, but if I do. Its hrt time ;D
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If I had lots of coinage,I`d be on a ton of shit forever............even carrott juice! :)
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wouldn't some testo gel or some shit like that reach those levels? or do you prefer injecting?
I doubt I will live to see 40-50, but if I do. Its hrt time ;D
Dude, injects are easy, painless and a matter of minutes, who in their right mind wants to smear some ugly gel on themselves, you have to be careful no one else touches it and so on...
Injects are the way to go, clean, easy, fast. Once a week. Also better than orals which you have to carry around, take them 2-3 times a day, annoying shit.
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If I had lots of coinage,I`d be on a ton of shit forever............even carrott juice! :)
Oh yeah man, mango juice, pineapple juice, freshly mixed up, that kind of orals i xcould have all day. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Dude, injects are easy, painless and a matter of minutes, who in their right mind wants to smear some ugly gel on themselves, you have to be careful no one else touches it and so on...
Injects are the way to go, clean, easy, fast. Once a week. Also better than orals which you have to carry around, take them 2-3 times a day, annoying shit.
well you have to have needles at home, syringes, wipes. And what if you want to travel around the world for a few months, do you just go Off after being on for 10 years? how would that feel? If you're running low dosages anyway, wouldn't a damn gel be "easier"?
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Oh yeah man, mango juice, pineapple juice, freshly mixed up, that kind of orals i xcould have all day. ;D ;D ;D ;D
I love oral too....especially if she`s passionate about giving it! ;D
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btw, wes, wtf are you doing up, isn't it early as SHIT in america right now?
I know old people get up early but maaan ;D
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I never sleep bro......you sleep enough when you`re dead !!
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well you have to have needles at home, syringes, wipes. And what if you want to travel around the world for a few months, do you just go Off after being on for 10 years? how would that feel? If you're running low dosages anyway, wouldn't a damn gel be "easier"?
Dude, I have a job and a family, I will never travel for months, and if i will, i just go off, who gives a shit.
For one or two weeks you just load up on test e and you are set, don't forget I live in Japan, if i have a 5 days vacation that's luxury, LOL.
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I never sleep bro......you sleep enough when you`re dead !!
I actually went to bed at midnight last night. since I had a meeting at 9 this morning. ended up with me looking at the ceiling until 3.30. sucks without teh herb. I had some wine left also. so I was close to chuggin that shit. But my quest for rippedness stopped it ;D
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Dude, I have a job and a family, I will never travel for months, and if i will, i just go off, who gives a shit.
For one or two weeks you just load up on test e and you are set, don't forget I live in Japan, if i have a 5 days vacation that's luxury, LOL.
Valid point.
I dont know what "job" means though. ;D
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Valid point.
I dont know what "job" means though. ;D
You also don't know what travel means, you can't get away from the screen long enough to have a workout.
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Swede.
Get a job you lazy girl :D.
Trygdesnyltende late jævel!!!
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You also don't know what travel means, you can't get away from the screen long enough to have a workout.
;D ;D ;D ;D
another valid point. I have put a solid month of working out at home though. Its been a Long Long Long time since I trained for a month straight haha. While watching a queen concert ....at the screen ;D
..on my way to being focking ripped mayne
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Swede.
Get a job you lazy #girl :D.
Trygdesnyltende late jævel!!!
Ron has been paying me to post here since 2006 ;D. you were still in kindergarten back then ;D
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Ron has been paying me to post here since 2006 ;D. you were still in kindergarten back then ;D
Dude the only one who pays you is the Swedish miinstery of welfare. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Dude the only one who pays you is the Swedish miinstery of welfare. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Calm down champ ;D
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;D
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I was serious. Pop an amp daily and switch from enanthate to a blend like omna or sustanon. You'll be fine. If it's legit pharma grade it is worth the money. I think you will respond great to that dosage and will impress many naysayers
Dude. You've said yourself that you don't like using steroids. And you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
An amp a day? That would be between 1.5 and 2 grams of test only a week. That's straight up retarded. Get ready for bloat and gyno at that dose. If the man wants to run 250mg/e5d let him do it. If he wants to up the dose, I don't see the point of doing more than 750mg/week without adding other compounds in.
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Test C 125mg twice a week/ 30mg Dbol a day here. Very pleased with the results.
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250mg TE every 5 days
will keep you updated
WHY Xerxes? WHY???
Why not stay natural!!!
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WHY Xerxes? WHY???
Why not stay natural!!!
in my gym there is this Iraqi guy, he's 18. He looks like shit, doesn't know shit about training and hates to train hard, he hates the taste of blood in mouth and doesn't "get it" when it comes to the gym culture.
He told me he's about to take some orals so he can get inshape for summer. I was like "dude, why... look at yourself, you haven't even trained :D" then he's like; "yeah but I want some good results before summer, just to get ripped and deceant muscle".
I'm not sayin Ironnec is like this since ironnec looks really good, but I don't think it's a coincidence that 4 differend arab/persian/paki people have told me the same fucking shit in my gym, and they were all fat, even they weighed the same as me, no real cuts, no work ethic, no nothing, no homo.... I mean lol.
but rly ironnec, best of luck for ur cycle brah!, I hope it turns great 8)
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ironneck is already chubby and bloated,by going on large amounts of test he will look even shittier than now,bloated like hell.I would recommend him to chop a leg or hand off so he can loose some weight and then jump on some AAS :P
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btw my first cycle was 250 e5 and my haematocrit levels were already around 54-55, which can be life-threatening according to my doc when the blood gets so thick and clogs the arteries (heart-attack, stroke,..).
500 e5 for first cycle? Good luck ;D
so did you stop everything? or did you doctor tell u to take somthing to fix the prob??
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so did you stop everything? or did you doctor tell u to take somthing to fix the prob??
There is not much you can do about elevated haematocrit levels. Aspirin doesn't make your blood thinner (like every idiot always continues to babble), it only prevents the platelets from sticking together, but it has no influence on the haematocrit.
The only thing you can do is drink more water (water is a real blood thinner), but I was already at around 4 litres per day, more and I can stay on the restroom the entire day.
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ironneck is already chubby and bloated,by going on large amounts of test he will look even shittier than now,bloated like hell.I would recommend him to chop a leg or hand off so he can loose some weight and then jump on some AAS :P
He already looks like a tomato. I hope he has the decency to pop outside so they can just hose it down.
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There is not much you can do about elevated haematocrit levels. Aspirin doesn't make your blood thinner (like every idiot always continues to babble), it only prevents the platelets from sticking together, but it has no influence on the haematocrit.
The only thing you can do is drink more water (water is a real blood thinner), but I was already at around 4 litres per day, more and I can stay on the restroom the entire day.
that sucks, so did u stop using completely?
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that sucks, so did u stop using completely?
Yes. That's years ago anyway.
But I don't feel the need to anymore, I like my physique better off the sauce, and so do chicks. What I miss from time to time is the energy boost 24/7, but you can't have everything.
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Yes. That's years ago anyway.
But I don't feel the need to anymore, I like my physique better off the sauce, and so do chicks. What I miss from time to time is the energy boost 24/7, but you can't have everything.
thats smart, most idiots would continue using and kill themselves
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in my gym there is this Iraqi guy, he's 18. He looks like shit, doesn't know shit about training and hates to train hard, he hates the taste of blood in mouth and doesn't "get it" when it comes to the gym culture.
He told me he's about to take some orals so he can get inshape for summer. I was like "dude, why... look at yourself, you haven't even trained :D" then he's like; "yeah but I want some good results before summer, just to get ripped and deceant muscle".
I'm not sayin Ironnec is like this since ironnec looks really good, but I don't think it's a coincidence that 4 differend arab/persian/paki people have told me the same fucking shit in my gym, and they were all fat, even they weighed the same as me, no real cuts, no work ethic, no nothing, no homo.... I mean lol.
but rly ironnec, best of luck for ur cycle brah!, I hope it turns great 8)
In my gym there are these white guys, I see them curling in the squat rack, I see them resting and doing nothing, I never see anyone sweat
I don't think it's a coincidence.
See how that works? ::)
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thats smart, most idiots would continue using and kill themselves
Yeah, I was one of the intellectual roid users like Nasser ;D, not just a prole bulking up for the clubs.
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Good luck mate, I'm going to be doing my first cycle in a few months too.
Is it recommended that you throw DBOL into a first 500mg test/week cycle? Or just keep it as test.
Cheers.
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Good luck mate, I'm going to be doing my first cycle in a few months too.
Is it recommended that you throw DBOL into a first 500mg test/week cycle? Or just keep it as test.
Cheers.
Throw an oral in there so you don't have to wait for the long ester test to kick in. Plus the gains are explosive from orals and a lot of fun.
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great advice, guys
i use greek testo, called norma, u guys know it?
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iwas 16 and natural in that pic
the famous bathroom pics are the ones where i was on testo (@17)
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Good luck mate, I'm going to be doing my first cycle in a few months too.
Is it recommended that you throw DBOL into a first 500mg test/week cycle? Or just keep it as test.
Cheers.
Test only is good,that way you see how you respond and you know exactly what you are responding to.
Also,first cycle on 500mgs. of test,you will make huge gains if you eat right and train hard.
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great advice, guys
i use greek testo, called norma, u guys know it?
norma hellas .. if legit is great stuff .. I used it
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at least it seem legit, bro
time will tell haha
the first shot i did was 250mg, i discussed it with my friend and we agreed on 500mg now, gotta order some more but the main thing it to let them muscles grow
so 500mg for the next shots
another question, is the length of the needle important? we have kind of middle long needles now, should we take longer ones?
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Dude,get one injection each three days.i mean not 500 mg each 3 days,i mean you redose so you get the same quantity.You do not want hormones levels to fluctuate up and down,you want them to be as stable as it could.So that you won't have to deal with acnee,mood changes,etc etc
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should i use nolvadex (arimidex)?
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should i use nolvadex (arimidex)?
Won`t need it bro.
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at least it seem legit, bro
time will tell haha
the first shot i did was 250mg, i discussed it with my friend and we agreed on 500mg now, gotta order some more but the main thing it to let them muscles grow
so 500mg for the next shots
another question, is the length of the needle important? we have kind of middle long needles now, should we take longer ones?
22 Gauge-1 inch needle
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250mg TE every 5 days
will keep you updated
you......are.......going..............to..............be..............a.......178 pound..............Istan bul.................mons ter.
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"The Istanbul Bull" LOL ;D
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"The Istanbul Bull" LOL ;D
my Lord Wes, can you imagine the sheer poundages this bearded Turkish monster will be heaving up now that hes on those nasty, naughty steroids? he might even get a 455 deadlift. :o
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LOL ;D
Right up there with Vince Anello bro!
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already spotting dem ronnie coleman veins, people think i shoot oil
the bospurus monster is on his way!
for real, wes, what about bitch tits? is it ok to take just to be sure or is it not good for gains?
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22 Gauge-1 inch needle
25 gauage 1 & 1/2 inch needle..
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In my gym there are these white guys, I see them curling in the squat rack, I see them resting and doing nothing, I never see anyone sweat
I don't think it's a coincidence.
See how that works? ::)
white people problems, I didn't see the iraqi doing that ;D
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I have no clue about doses, drugs, what to use when/how or with what.
Ironneck seems to be getting a lot of shit about this though.
One thing that makes logical sense to me, however, is why go so big with your first cycle? I've heard of guys starting their first cycle at 750 of this, throw in a few of this and that etc...
If it's your first cycle I would think that even with being on one substance and a lower dose (yet still larger than what the human body produces naturally) you would get good results.
Why start off on a gram of suspension if doing 250mg every 5 days yields results that Ironneck is satisfied with? Is it true that you can "never go back?" Meaning once you start a large dose the lower doses won't help nearly as much if you were to try them after the larger dose?
??? ??? ???
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already spotting dem ronnie coleman veins, people think i shoot oil
the bospurus monster is on his way!
for real, wes, what about bitch tits? is it ok to take just to be sure or is it not good for gains?
You more than likely won`t need it bro,but I doubt if it could hinder your progress.
Personally,I`ve never done PCT and I never had a bitch tit problem,then again,I really never used crazy ass amounts.
As I said,if you feel better using it,I doubt if it would hurt your gains any.
Good luck and train your ass of bro.
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LOL ;D
Right up there with Vince Anello bro!
Vince will quite smply NEVER pull the gigantic weights that the 5'1" turkish monster Ironnneck will pull, the man is simply a futuristic drug using genetic anomaly. ;D
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I have no clue about doses, drugs, what to use when/how or with what.
Ironneck seems to be getting a lot of shit about this though.
One thing that makes logical sense to me, however, is why go so big with your first cycle? I've heard of guys starting their first cycle at 750 of this, throw in a few of this and that etc...
If it's your first cycle I would think that even with being on one substance and a lower dose (yet still larger than what the human body produces naturally) you would get good results.
Why start off on a gram of suspension if doing 250mg every 5 days yields results that Ironneck is satisfied with? Is it true that you can "never go back?" Meaning once you start a large dose the lower doses won't help nearly as much if you were to try them after the larger dose?
??? ??? ???
Exactly what I was saying YB,and no, not true about the"never going back" part at all.
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Is it true that you can "never go back?" Meaning once you start a large dose the lower doses won't help nearly as much if you were to try them after the larger dose?
??? ??? ???
not from my experience.
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25 gauage 1 & 1/2 inch needle..
Nitpicking are we? :)
Way too big IMO,I hate shots personally so I stick (get it,stick) with 22-23G at an inch.
Personal preferance I guess.
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Vince will quite smply NEVER pull the gigantic weights that the 5'1" turkish monster Ironnneck will pull, the man is simply a futuristic drug using genetic anomaly. ;D
LOL
Vince is da` deadlift king!!
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how on earth do you pass oil through a pin as tiny as 25 gauge? epic taking 2 hours to push 1cc. ;D
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how on earth do you pass oil through a pin as tiny as 25 gauge? epic taking 2 hours to push 1cc. ;D
Might as well use a slin pin.
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im looking forward to see the changes!
for you guys its of course something different, but all normal people already think im non roids haha
so remember this pic this is the most recent, i will keep u guys updated on my progress
this is Le Me 177cm 90 kg 20% BF ( at least an electronic thing at the pharmacy said that) before taking anything! eating only 1800-2000kcal not worrying bout protein amount etc just trying to eat protein and carbs every meal
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Might as well use a slin pin.
it is a slin pin basically.
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GENERATION NOTHINGNESS !!
Swede making lots of sense in this thread
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250 mg enanthate every fifth day and that's it? I would be ashamed to start a thread about "cycle" like this. :-X
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what a gauge, how many cm is that?
the quarter pounder is called royale with cheese in france! why? they use the metric system!- pulp fiction
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it is a slin pin basically.
Yeah,I haven`t seen one since I stopped hanging with my junkie friends eons ago.
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i know people who only use low dosage testo and make good gains
but sev and others convinced me, im going over to 500mg, but then again there are other guys who say 250 is enough to make good gains
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what a gauge, how many cm is that?
the quarter pounder is called royale with cheese in france! why? they use the metric system!- pulp fiction
Not sure bro,I`m sure someone here can help...........I`m metrically challenged! :)
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i know people who only use low dosage testo and make good gains
but sev and others convinced me, im going over to 500mg, but then again there are other guys who say 250 is enough to make good gains
stop worrying so much about the drugs, juist use what you can get your hands on, eat and lift, at your age you'll get big no matter what.
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i know people who only use low dosage testo and make good gains
but sev and others convinced me, im going over to 500mg, but then again there are other guys who say 250 is enough to make good gains
Start at 500 bro...check my previous posts as to why you should do this.
You`ve been clean for a long time and did one previous small cycle........why waste money when you will make damn good gains on 500 to start?
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Not sure bro,I`m sure someone here can help...........I`m metrically challenged! :)
is it important that the needle is long?
Start at 500 bro...check my previous posts as to why you should do this.
You`ve been clean for a long time and did one previous small cycle........why waste money when you will make damn good gains on 500 to start?
yeah i read all the comments, going to order another pack and go on with 500mg
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One inch long needle.
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another important question to you guys!
should i wait with trying to drop fat? or can i gain some good amount of muscles while being on low calories? better to eat a bit more and wait with getting ripped after the cycle?
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say good bye to your incredibly dense and thick hair.
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You can build muscle right away,eat fairly clean,have cheat meals,keep protein high,do a bit of cardio,diet at a later date.......now is the time to build.
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say good bye to your incredibly dense and thick hair.
if ronnie has his hair im also gonna keep my thick hair
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You can build muscle right away,eat fairly clean,have cheat meals,keep protein high,do a bit of cardio,diet at a later date.......now is the time to build.
i guess it depends on priorities and goals, doesn't matter which way really.
i would cut down first because being fat and then having a lot of water weight makes you look horrible. easier to get stretch marks and more bodyfat means higher estrogen conversion :P
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if ronnie has his hair im also gonna keep my thick hair
maybe next time he shaves his head you can ask to buy his hair clippings and fashion yourself an ifbb pro-bodybuilding wig after you go bald from your 250mg of test!
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i guess it depends on priorities and goals, doesn't matter which way really.
i would cut down first because being fat and then having a lot of water weight makes you look horrible. easier to get stretch marks and more bodyfat means higher estrogen conversion :P
He could do that also,but when I prep for a contest,I just eat clean,do cardio,and I still gain size.
Either way is right.
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another important question to you guys!
should i wait with trying to drop fat? or can i gain some good amount of muscles while being on low calories? better to eat a bit more and wait with getting ripped after the cycle?
goddamn dude stop worrying about "building muscle", just lift heavy ass weights, go out with girls, eat a lot of good food, take the "supplements" youre gonna take and relax, you'll be big enough.
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im not worrying brother of iron, just trying to gain knowledge about it, of course im still going out etc
wes, my needles are bit over one inch, 3cm, good then i can use them, i worried that they are too short but need to get thicker ones, it took look to inject cause they are so thin
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He could do that also,but when I prep for a contest,I just eat clean,do cardio,and I still gain size.
Either way is right.
ya, but he should be running more than 250mg. he can definitely gain off 250mg but, like you said 500mg is a good cycle.
also, problem with that approach is that it requires cardio and eating clean. us new-age bodybuilders don't do cardio or eat clean. eating clean for me is opting for a diet soda with my happy meal.
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I personally wouldn`t go over 1 1/2 inches but that`s just me............they`ll be fine.
3ml is the best I can do......reading it off a pic of a syringe,I think it = 3cc`s.
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just dont get your little turkish mohawk and 5'5" inch frame in a big hurry, all the Istanbul time is on your side, eat some falafel, pita bread and lamb and calm down, allah wont mind if you only pray to him 11 times a day instead of 14.
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ya, but he should be running more than 250mg. he can definitely gain off 250mg but, like you said 500mg is a good cycle.
also, problem with that approach is that it requires cardio and eating clean. us new-age bodybuilders don't do cardio or eat clean. eating clean for me is opting for a diet soda with my happy meal.
Great diet holmes! :)
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just dont get your little turkish mohawk and 5'5" inch frame in a big hurry, all the Istanbul time is on your side, eat some falafel, pita bread and lamb and calm down, allah wont mind if you only pray to him 11 times a day instead of 14.
Fucking Dave man! :)
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this dave guy is pretty harcore riding on some cliches
dont make me start on that 8 mile trailerpark shit ;D
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Great diet holmes! :)
ya, i was joking. i mean, obviously i would never go to mcdonalds to get a happy meal - i would get 5 of them because: more hotwheels; i'm a grown ass man and need more food for my "clean bulk" (clean bulk in steroid world means using t3, gh and tren, right???)
also, i don't know whats this word... cardio?? never heard that word before in my life so i was just going along with the flow, just to clarify ;D
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I knew that! ;D
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great advice, guys
i use greek testo, called norma, u guys know it?
Exactly the ones I had ;D
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Exactly the ones I had ;D
since u're such a huge mofo these things must be good! :D