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http://faustiesblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/why-socialism-fails-teacher-fails.html
Why socialism fails: Teacher fails entire class as example
As the late Adrian Rogers said, "you cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."
An economics professor at a local college said that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class.
That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich - a great equaliser.
To counter this, the professor said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan".
All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A.
After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B.
The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy.
As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little, studied even less and those who had previously studied hard, decided they wanted a free ride. So they too studied little.
The second test average was a D!
No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.
The scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.
All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.
Couldn't be any simpler than that.
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::)
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very simplistic but the point is valid...
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very simplistic but the point is valid...
It never happened Tonymctones
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It never happened Tonymctones
agreed, it doesnt make the point about the socialistic utopian idea he is making any less valid che...
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agreed, it doesnt make the point about the socialistic utopian idea he is making any less valid che...
Who's he ???
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Don't need a professor to tell us that. Just take a look at other socialist countries then you tell me.
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Who's he ???
the professor che, what other he is involved in the story?
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the professor che, what other he is involved in the story?
The story is fake , the professor doesn't exist.
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Definitely a simplistic example, but it sure is a good one, and definitely hit home for those students!! Props to the teacher
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The story is fake , the professor doesn't exist.
LMFAO ok fine is doesnt make the point the author of the blogs point about the socialistic uptopian idea any less valid.
are we done with the semantics?
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LMFAO ok fine is doesnt make the point the author of the blogs point about the socialistic uptopian idea any less valid.
are we done with the semantics?
;D
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;D
LOL you ass :)
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http://faustiesblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/why-socialism-fails-teacher-fails.html
Too bad you and others were so easily taken in by a completely BULLSHIT and FICTITIOUS Story.
I hope this helps, but I am quite certain, it won`t.
http://www.snopes.com/college/exam/socialism.asp
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socialism and communism are deciases
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socialism and communism are deciases
And what exactly is a "deciases"? ???
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Too bad you and others were so easily taken in by a completely BULLSHIT and FICTITIOUS Story.
I hope this helps, but I am quite certain, it won`t.
http://www.snopes.com/college/exam/socialism.asp
LOL...haters will hate. Whether the story is real or not the scenario is valid dumbass......in the real world (unlike yours) we call that commonsense. "Snopes" lol
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Too bad you and others were so easily taken in by a completely BULLSHIT and FICTITIOUS Story.
I hope this helps, but I am quite certain, it won`t.
http://www.snopes.com/college/exam/socialism.asp
as I made clear whether this story is real or fake it doesnt make the point the author is making about the socialism any less valid...
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LOL...haters will hate. Whether the story is real or not the scenario is valid dumbass......in the real world (unlike yours) we call that commonsense. "Snopes" lol
No its not.
I will give you an example. Our Town completely owns the Water and Public Sewage system. Everybody in town pays exactly the same rate based on how much water they use and how much goes back into the sewer system for treatment. Everyone has access to it no matter what. It works wonderfully and costs are extremely low.
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And what exactly is a "deciases"? ???
::)
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socialism and communism are deciases
How is that all gold portfolio of yours coming along, "devilsmile"??
I'm sure you got enough to fill up Fort Knox with all the advice you dish out on here urging everyone to buy because society is about to fall into complete anarchy?
I bet you don't even own one single fucking ounce of gold, you pathetic little poser.
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do you guys in the USA give welfare checks to people who are able to work, but just don't want to ?
cause that pisses me off
and recently a peace of shit made a video on youtube, saying: Thank you to all the idiots who work their ass off to pay for my chips and beers
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Also, our town will pay you for every bit of water that does not go into the sewer system. Say you have a garden that requires 25,000 gallons each month in water. You get reimbursed for all of it.
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I read the same story 5 years ago with Cuba as example
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do you guys in the USA give welfare checks to people who are able to work, but just don't want to ?
cause that pisses me off
and recently a peace of shit made a video on youtube, saying: Thank you to all the idiots who work their ass off to pay for my chips and beers
Are you talking about TANF? If so, then certainly not. The work requirements are very strict to qualify.
If you are talking about Fire and Police protection as well as other services such as Water and Power, then yes, it is provided to everyone for the most part (depends on where you live and your city) and it should be.
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No its not.
I will give you an example. Our Town completely owns the Water and Public Sewage system. Everybody in town pays exactly the same rate based on how much water they use and how much goes back into the sewer system for treatment. Everyone has access to it no matter what. It works wonderfully and costs are extremely low.
thats pay not effort...
if everyone had to work for that and the amount of results they got were the same some would work less b/c they could and still get the same reward...
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Also, out town will pay you for every bit of water that does not go into the sewer system. Say you have a garden that requires 25,000 gallons each month in water. You get reimbursed for all of it.
All these hardcore conservative dummies will claim to take a bullet for the legacy of the founding fathers.
I wonder if they realize Ben Franklin was instrumental in starting a couple of the most long lasting, most benefical socialistic organizations in this country's history.
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thats pay not effort...
if everyone had to work for that and the amount of results they got were the same some would work less b/c they could and still get the same reward...
No, its the very Definition of Socialism based on the Sewer Socialism of Milwaukee.
Perhaps these links will help you learn something new today:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewer_Socialism
http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/turningpoints/tp-043/
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Are you talking about TANF? If so, then certainly not. The work requirements are very strict to qualify.
If you are talking about Fire and Police protection as well as other services such as Water and Power, then yes, it is provided for the most part and it should be.
Don't know the term.
Here in quebec we are about 8 millions people
500 000 are on welfare so they receive money every month.
175 000 of those, are perfectly able to work, but just want to stay home and play xbox
I have no problem paying for people who need some money because of whatever good reasons they have, but those 175 000 who are able to work should be trown on the street >:(
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I have no problem paying for people who need some money because of whatever good reasons they have, but those 175 000 who are able to work should be trown on the street >:(
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No, its the very Definition of Socialism based on the Sewer Socialism of Milwaukee.
Perhaps these links will help you learn something new today:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewer_Socialism
http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/turningpoints/tp-043/
wonderful and technical definition is the workers own the means of production, when we get on to your definition ill make sure to wake you up...
the idea that its become is that everyone splits the rewards...
like the analogy explains its not realistic...
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wonderful and technical definition is the workers own the means of production, when we get on to your definition ill make sure to wake you up...
the idea that its become is that everyone splits the rewards...
like the analogy explains its not realistic...
We own the means of production as the town puts it to a vote on who to hire, pay scale, improvements if needed or expansion and so on.
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It may be just a funny video but it hit's right on the head. Tell me TA, should we be paying to support this?
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We own the means of production as the town puts it to a vote on who to hire, pay scale, improvements if needed or expansion and so on.
LOL first off again that is pay not effort...you try to draw the sewer socialism arguement when talking about socialism there is a difference and you know it
you also have the ability to opt out, as in not living within certain districts, cities, counties etc...
just like in certain counties you can opt out of paying for fire service...
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It may be just a funny video but it hit's right on the head. Tell me TA, should we be paying to support this?
We don`t. Its a video that is a parody.
I also believe that Abortions should be easily accessible and should be implemented for big savings and prevention of Welfare. I also think those who choose not to have children should be rewarded in some way via tax credits, reduced income tax rate/zero tax rate or some other form of compensation.
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LOL first off again that is pay not effort...you try to draw the sewer socialism arguement when talking about socialism there is a difference and you know it
you also have the ability to opt out, as in not living within certain districts, cities, counties etc...
just like in certain counties you can opt out of paying for fire service...
Its Socialism at its finest. I am also in favor of a truly Socialistic Tax Structure of a National Sales Tax with Zero tax on food, medicine, houses and used goods and a HEAVY tax on Religious Organizations and Churches. Its about time those worthless land occupiers and scam artists start paying their fair share. Its ridiculous how much the Church gets away with in the United States.
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Are you talking about TANF? If so, then certainly not. The work requirements are very strict to qualify.
If you are talking about Fire and Police protection as well as other services such as Water and Power, then yes, it is provided to everyone for the most part (depends on where you live and your city) and it should be.
The problem lies in the people who determine who recieves TANF, they overlook the rules and will give it to all sorts of people they shouldnt. Seen it with my own eyes. Stavios' point is very valid, you have the people lieing an scamming their win into the program, and the people awarding them give them to people that shouldnt have it. I cannot figure out their reasons, but it doesnt change the point. Our countries welfare system is broken, those who should get it, dont, and those that shouldnt, more often than not.
The system may work in principle, but never works in reality due to human corruption. Thats the difference between whats preached in Universities and what actually works, the reason Socialism and Communism fail in the real world - and the thing so many idealists seem to leave out. The human factor, which you will never get around.
Corrupt people will always find their way to power, and in those situations, it winds creating a huge gap with no middle class whatsoever, it becomes the extremely small group of elites vs everyone else living in poverty.
Those systems just make it easier for those in power to take it from the average person.
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Capitalism is wonderful as well. Taking the best that Socialism has to offer and the Best that Capitalism has to offer and using each where its fit to do so is the best course of action any nation can follow. We have done this since the inception of the United States but where we get it wrong at times is not adjusting the levels of each to fit the point in history aptly. Socialism for the Rich, Capitalism for the poor has been a detriment for a while and a level playing field in some instances such as tax structure and Healthcare would be beneficial. I won`t hold my breath though as the IRS does not seem to be going anywhere anytime soon and Insurance companies will continue to rule as dictators over the Doctor/Patient relationship that is supposed to exist without a middleman. :-\
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The problem lies in the people who determine who recieves TANF, they overlook the rules and will give it to all sorts of people they shouldnt. Seen it with my own eyes. Stavios' point is very valid, you have the people lieing an scamming their win into the program, and the people awarding them give them to people that shouldnt have it. I cannot figure out their reasons, but it doesnt change the point. Our countries welfare system is broken, those who should get it, dont, and those that shouldnt, more often than not.
The system may work in principle, but never works in reality due to human corruption. Thats the difference between whats preached in Universities and what actually works, the reason Socialism and Communism fail in the real world - and the thing so many idealists seem to leave out. The human factor, which you will never get around.
Corrupt people will always find their way to power, and in those situations, it winds creating a huge gap with no middle class whatsoever, it becomes the extremely small group of elites vs everyone else living in poverty.
Those systems just make it easier for those in power to take it from the average person.
Lets also add those who collect "Disability" to the list and not really being disabled. That is a monster scam that needs addressing.
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We don`t. Its a video that is a parody.
I also believe that Abortions should be easily accessible and should be implemented for big savings and prevention of Welfare. I also think those who choose not to have children should be rewarded in some way via tax credits, reduced income tax rate/zero tax rate or some other form of compensation.
I know it's a parody but it's dead on. I can through almost any part of LA or anywhere and find "We take EBT" on establishments including liqueur stores and yes...we do pay for it. Your delusion of life perplexes but on the other hand I could give a fuck.
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Lets also add those who collect "Disability" to the list and not really being disabled. That is a monster scam that needs addressing.
Agreed.
Like you said, probably the best scenario is combining the systems in places where they can be used and are needed, as far as making a living, you need some sort of earning system where those that work hard/have special skills earn more money/better standard of living, no sort of wealth redistribution scheme is ever going to work when it comes to people making their own way, as soon as you start trying to make everyone equal is when laziness and pieces of shit are rewarded for doing nothing.
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I know it's a parody but it's dead on. I can through almost any part of LA or anywhere and find "We take EBT" on establishments including liqueur stores and yes...we do pay for it. Your delusion of life perplexes but on the other hand I could give a fuck.
I would rather the government give them Abortion Cards instead of EBT Cards to use at a Certified Abortion Clinic. Why you or anyone else is against this is a mystery.
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Lets also add those who collect "Disability" to the list and not really being disabled. That is a monster scam that needs addressing.
I know people who are on ' disability ' because they can't read or write
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Agreed.
Like you said, probably the best scenario is combining the systems in places where they can be used and are needed, as far as making a living, you need some sort of earning system where those that work hard/have special skills earn more money/better standard of living, no sort of wealth redistribution scheme is ever going to work when it comes to people making their own way, as soon as you start trying to make everyone equal is when laziness and pieces of shit are rewarded for doing nothing.
100 percent in agreement.
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Don't need a professor to tell us that. Just take a look at other socialist countries then you tell me.
Yup. Whole of Scandinavia. Quality of life is probably double that of the US.
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Yup. Whole of Scandinavia. Quality of life is probably double that of the US.
Try living there and see for yourself, all those myths about scandinavia are hillarious.
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Socialism is bad.
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Socialism is bad.
Atleast it exists or has existed, unlike pure capitalism which is a fairy tale.
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Try living there and see for yourself, all those myths about scandinavia are hillarious.
No shit. 2 years in Norway doing my Masters. Nine months in Stockholm as an intern/trainee. Numerous trips to Denmark an a 8 week stint living there for work. Tons of Scandinavian friends/co-workers. Three Scandinavian ex's. Apart from one Swedish mate calling Sweden 'communists', everyone loves it and sees it as the best place on earth to live.
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Nothing can be as bad as pseudo capitalism of USA, live in a trailer park, on the streets or jail. Nice. :D ::)
And for the system that "doesn't work", "the commies" did ok. First man in space. Totally fucked Americans. Soooo fucked them up, they spent a fucking decade spending spending spending trying to prove they also can do stuff!
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I hate the poor, it's always their fault for being poor. Nothing bad will ever happen to me and it's okay for me to take everything for granted. I do wrong to the least of these and then go to church every Sunday and sing Oh How I Love Jesus.
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Atleast it exists or has existed, unlike pure capitalism which is a fairy tale.
Socialism is for weak minded people who can't think or fend for themselves let alone a family with the aid of government assistance. "Why should I get a job when the government pays me to sit on my ass".
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Nothing can be as bad as pseudo capitalism of USA, live in a trailer park, on the streets or jail. Nice. :D ::)
And for the system that "doesn't work", "the commies" did ok. First man in space. Totally fucked Americans. Soooo fucked them up, they spent a fucking decade spending spending spending trying to prove they also can do stuff!
I don't want communist/socialist/totalitarist system because I don't want military cops walking down the street and pulling me off just because they wanted to and search me for drugs without real reason.
I don't want a bunch of drones above my house getting "heat signatures" from my house and then send martial troops inside my house just to find that I was growing cucumbers and then getting a 10k fine because they came to my house without a warrent (that's paying to be harrased right there)
I don't want to be sent in fema camps right off the work or worst, dessappeared without any notification because I'm suspected "terrorist" for random miscellaneous reasons and if I question this I just get tazed and beaten.
I don't want any eye scanners in stores that spy my eye movements to see what I'm looking at constantly and reporting this information to authoritys.
I don't want any microchips inside my brain to "correct my thoughts", like not questioning the authority.
But they want to tell you that it's for yor own safety because there's some towel heads in the east who want to suicide bomb you so they need to enslave you and deny all personal rights from you ::)
Lol fuck that shit :D , I want to walk where I want, take any forrest path I want, listen to whatever music, sing whatever I want, think whatever I want, buy, sell and do whatever I want without questioned or without constantly giving my information and it will happend in all of europe aswell, it's world wide. Fuck facism, fuck communism and fuck tyranny.
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Socialism is for weak minded people who can't think or fend for themselves let alone a family with the aid of government assistance. "Why should I get a job when the government pays me to sit on my ass".
Is that the reason why Soviet Union has been so much more developed in the fields of culture, intellect and athletics compared to the rest of the world? ::)
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Is that the reason why Soviet Union has been so much more developed in the fields of culture, intellect and athletics compared to the rest of the world? ::)
Does that give the government the right to make decisions for other people. Does the government know what's best for my family better than I do? Thats complete bullshit.
As for athletics...the US surpassed the Soviets in athletic research and training advancements long ago. Hope that helped.
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Does that give the government the right to make decisions for other people. Does the government know what's best for my family better than I do? Thats complete bullshit.
Are you saying you don't want the government officials putting hands in your pants? You don't want them to put you in a radiation banister to search you for weapons? You don't want drones in the sky spying your house to report what you are doing?!?!
you TERRORISTS, you!
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That fact that this never happens actually renders the authors "point" invalid. This is because the evidence used to support the conclusion (the declining averages) is made up. Also lol at 'obamas socialism'. hey guys my college professor set up a capitalist grade system wherein good grades could be transferred to other courses at the expense of everyone elses grades. In the end two people got 100 percent and everyone else failed! Capitalism doesnt work. Its not very convincing is it?
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There was a time in america where you could grow your own tomatoes, potatoes, apples etc. in your backyard, now it's illeagal, swat teams are actually searching for backyard gardens :-X.
No no no you have to eat chemically dealt poison foods from big corporate stores!
"It might be drugs they are growing" is the elites best defence to this new crap... lol, gotta love communism.
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Anyone who supports socialism has a mental issue.
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Anyone who supports socialism has a mental issue.
state troop is on it's way to your house now, I told the state troop that "you were acting weird". If you denie this, it's aggressive behaviour and the state trooper will taze you a houndred times and send you in prison.
stop thinking for yourself, you can't have a free mind it's terrorism!
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There was a time in america where you could grow your own tomatoes, potatoes, apples etc. in your backyard, now it's illeagal, swat teams are actually searching for backyard gardens :-X.
No no no you have to eat chemically dealt poison foods from big corporate stores!
"It might be drugs they are growing" is the elites best defence to this new crap... lol, gotta love communism.
Dude, I dont know where youre getting your info, but half of the things you say are coming out of left field.
There is some truth in some of it, but no SWAT teams are searching for home gardens, no one is tazing people because they were acting weird. Lol.
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I bet 60% of you don't even know what socialism is.
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ok shockwave... everything is fine, you're right.
vote for mitt romney or obama it's all good, I just imagined all this. hahaha, and I was actually believing these articles I'm reading about the harrasing government officials and ndaa martial law and sopa and diminishing civil rights :D , I mean just because they are reported doesn't mean they are right, what was I thinking.
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ok shockwave... everything is fine, you're right.
vote for mitt romney or obama it's all good, I just imagined all this.
And what are you doing about it if it doesn't?
How many firearms do you own? How much gold or farmable land do you possess??
I bet very little on all counts. And bunkering yourself in your bedroom and taking faggy twink pictures in your mirror will do jack shit to help your cause, I can assure you of that.
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And what are you doing about it if it doesn't?
How many firearms do you own? How much gold or farmable land do you possess??
I bet very little on all counts. And bunkering yourself in your bedroom and taking faggy twink pictures in your mirror will do jack shit to help your cause, I can assure you of that.
One step is realising what's going on. Understanding why things are happening as they are is second.
I'm not gonna hide, but since we're on the subject of socialism etc, I just wanted to share my oppinion and point out that nobody wants this in reality.
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Capitalism or Socialism. ::)
No man should be forced to do that which goes against his heart - Cherokee Nation
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as I made clear whether this story is real or fake it doesnt make the point the author is making about the socialism any less valid...
yes it does make the point less valid, LOL
you can't just make up a story to prove your point, it's called lying
and since the story is fake, there's no proof that the students would in fact act this way
bullshit
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ok shockwave... everything is fine, you're right.
vote for mitt romney or obama it's all good, I just imagined all this. hahaha, and I was actually believing these articles I'm reading about the harrasing government officials and ndaa martial law and sopa and diminishing civil rights :D , I mean just because they are reported doesn't mean they are right, what was I thinking.
Where do you get me saying everything is OK?
Shit is fucked, but nothing like what youre saying, youre acting like its black/white, like V for Vendetta is going down RIGHT NOW, when its not.
I like you dude, but youre really making yourself sound stupid with some of the shit that youre saying.
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lot of smart people arguing in this thread....
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the US will be a police state long before you have to worry about socialism taking root..
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Where do you get me saying everything is OK?
Shit is fucked, but nothing like what youre saying, youre acting like its black/white, like V for Vendetta is going down RIGHT NOW, when its not.
I like you dude, but youre really making yourself sound stupid with some of the shit that youre saying.
This is the breakdown of a lost society. When any society thinks it's ok to stripsearch 80 year olds, take their colostomy bag out and check it, search little children ,there is a mental breakdown of the majority of society :-X.
Yes lets just strip search under 12 year olds, touch your wifes pussy in an airport and take off your babys diapers because they could be smugling deadly poisons to destroy america! Hell, they should fucking give me a blow job and search my cum for potential ingredients, after all it's liquid :o
I don't know why you act like it's not happening, because it is.
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http://faustiesblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/why-socialism-fails-teacher-fails.html
Why socialism fails: Teacher fails entire class as example
As the late Adrian Rogers said, "you cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."
An economics professor at a local college said that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class.
That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich - a great equaliser.
To counter this, the professor said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan".
All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A.
After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B.
The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy.
As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little, studied even less and those who had previously studied hard, decided they wanted a free ride. So they too studied little.
The second test average was a D!
No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.
The scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.
All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.
Couldn't be any simpler than that.
1.) this was fake
2.) everyone knows socialism doesn't work. Unless you're china ;D
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There was a time in america where you could grow your own tomatoes, potatoes, apples etc. in your backyard, now it's illeagal, swat teams are actually searching for backyard gardens :-X.
No no no you have to eat chemically dealt poison foods from big corporate stores!
"It might be drugs they are growing" is the elites best defence to this new crap... lol, gotta love communism.
I dont know what part of the US you live in, but here in california, we can grow whatever the fuck we want in our backyards and no one gives a shit.
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Does that give the government the right to make decisions for other people. Does the government know what's best for my family better than I do? Thats complete bullshit.
As for athletics...the US surpassed the Soviets in athletic research and training advancements long ago. Hope that helped.
You haven't surprassed the Soviet sport science of the 60's yet. Infact I don't think you have developed any sport science, ever. The reason Americans have been better in sports is because you have the world's population in miniature size, Russians have just Russians. Hope this helps.
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You haven't surprassed the Soviet sport science of the 60's yet. Infact I don't think you have developed any sport science, ever. The reason Americans have been better in sports is because you have the world's population in miniature size, Russians have just Russians. Hope this helps.
If you took the top 10 athletes in the United States and the top 10 athletes in Russia and asked the rest of the world who was the better group out of the two they would choose the United States and it wouldn't even be fucking close.
But "Klaus fan" from getbig says that the United States hasn't "developed any sports science" ::) ::) ::)
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I dont know what part of the US you live in, but here in california, we can grow whatever the fuck we want in our backyards and no one gives a shit.
yeah maby for now.
http://bunkerville.wordpress.com/2011/01/17/man-fined-5200-for-growing-cucumbers-in-basement/
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very simplistic but the point is valid...
yes, VERY simplistic!!
this guy should be stripped of any teaching priveledges.
anyone who has lived in a socialist based- or hybrid economy knows that there are rewards- it NEVER gets split equally...those who work hard, get rewarded, however the rewards arent as great- BUT, the down side is FAR better than no safety net.
It doesnt take a rhode's scholar to see that pure socialism doesnt work..anyone with half a brain could see the eventual outcome.
furthermore anyone who does this test would only do it the first time.
in real life, these tests occur over and over and the people soon realise that the greater good is achieved by putting in some effort.
what he shouldve done was continue testing- the next test wouldve meant all passed again..until they worked out what was required to work as a society.
some people will never study, others will always Ace the test... same as in real life.
the article and his experiment mean nothing...other than a waste of time to make a moot point.
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If you took the top 10 athletes in the United States and the top 10 athletes in Russia and asked the rest of the world who was the better group out of the two they would choose the United States and it wouldn't even be fucking close.
But "Klaus fan" from getbig says that the United States hasn't "developed any sports science" ::) ::) ::)
Lol this is why this thread fails immensely. Producing athletes, basically comes down to spending alot of resources on a very small group of people,
Anyhow the soviet union wasn't socialism, no more than the usa was a true democracy, back in 19 th century, when women couldn't vote, and slaves were the norm.
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yeah maby for now.
http://bunkerville.wordpress.com/2011/01/17/man-fined-5200-for-growing-cucumbers-in-basement/
Wrong country brah.
Thats canada. :-\
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Wrong country brah.
Thats canada. :-\
wrong article, but it doesn't matter because this shit will escalade
here's the one...
http://abcnews.go.com/US/vegetable-garden-brings-criminal-charges-oak-park-michigan/story?id=14047214
I lost one article where amish got ten thousand dollar fine for producing own milk if I remember correctly, I'll let you know when I care to find that for you too... and a houndred similar articles.
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If you took the top 10 athletes in the United States and the top 10 athletes in Russia and asked the rest of the world who was the better group out of the two they would choose the United States and it wouldn't even be fucking close.
But "Klaus fan" from getbig says that the United States hasn't "developed any sports science" ::) ::) ::)
it is called professional sports. look it up. ::)
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it is called professional sports. look it up. ::)
So why aren't all these Russians over here making millions upon millions of dollars if they are all such great fantastic athletes?? So advanced in "sports science"??
Because aside from Fedor, Klitschko brothers, Andrei Karelinko and maybe a very slight number of others they simply aren't athletic enough to make it in the sports people actually care about.
That's about as simple as it gets right there. That's really not a knock against the Russians but to say Americans don't have some of the very top athletes in the world is just stupid and obvious bias.
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wrong article, but it doesn't matter because this shit will escalade
here's the one...
http://abcnews.go.com/US/vegetable-garden-brings-criminal-charges-oak-park-michigan/story?id=14047214
I lost one article where amish got ten thousand dollar fine for producing own milk if I remember correctly, I'll let you know when I care to find that for you too... and a houndred similar articles.
Yes, the dairy laws are stupid. Luckily, we can also buy raw milk in california. This has nothing to do with growing vegetables, though. the dairy loaws have been in place for years.
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rofl
russians own americans in following disciplines:
- chess
- math
- computer science
- writers
- figure skating
- olympic weightlifting
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rofl
russians own americans in following disciplines:
- chess
- math
- computer science
- writers
- figure skating
- olympic weightlifting
Epic fail.
The rest I have no idea one way or the other, but I have my doubts about more than 1 of those.
However, pretty sure no one really gives a damn about figure skating, lol.
Oly lifting Ill give you.
Chess - woo hoo, goes with figure skating, no one gives a damn about anymore.
Math - dont know.
Writers - dont know, but ill assume youre right.
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agreed, it doesnt make the point about the socialistic utopian idea he is making any less valid che...
yes, the socialist ideal claims to be able to create utopia ::)
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It doesnt take a rhode's scholar to see that pure socialism doesnt work..anyone with half a brain could see the eventual outcome.
lmao.. does ANYBODY know the difference between socialism and communism anymore ?
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Epic fail.
The rest I have no idea one way or the other, but I have my doubts about more than 1 of those.
However, pretty sure no one really gives a damn about figure skating, lol.
Oly lifting Ill give you.
Chess - woo hoo, goes with figure skating, no one gives a damn about anymore.
Math - dont know.
Writers - dont know, but ill assume youre right.
Well
http://community.topcoder.com/stat?c=country_avg_rating
Biggest programming contest online. Every big company like Google, Facebook etc. hires top people from here. You're not even making top6.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACM_International_Collegiate_Programming_Contest
:/
I can continue talking about how you fail in research areas and so on, but well... To ignorant guy like who Bill Gates is a computer scientist, lol.
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Well
http://community.topcoder.com/stat?c=country_avg_rating
Biggest programming contest online. Every big company like Google, Facebook etc. hires top people from here. You're not even making top6.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACM_International_Collegiate_Programming_Contest
:/
I can continue talking about how you fail in research areas and so on, but well... To ignorant guy like who Bill Gates is a computer scientist, lol.
Are you talking which countries produce the programmers themselves? Or where they work and what they develop?
Cause if youre talking about where the programmers themselves come from, yes Ill agree with you, our education system sucks.
If youre talking about the programs produced, Id have to disagree.
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Well
http://community.topcoder.com/stat?c=country_avg_rating
Biggest programming contest online. Every big company like Google, Facebook etc. hires top people from here. You're not even making top6.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACM_International_Collegiate_Programming_Contest
:/
I can continue talking about how you fail in research areas and so on, but well... To ignorant guy like who Bill Gates is a computer scientist, lol.
Can you rephrase this? I cant understand it.
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The story is bullshit most likely, I am willing to give it a 1% chance that there someone teaching college economics that is this ignorant in properly applying a concept.
Funny thing is, this "socialist" concept has been successfully used by sales departments in various industries where the sales people recieve a big portion of their paycheck in commission. Instead of having each sales person working by themselves, they are put into groups or teams where they all work towards one commission check which is then divided up equally. What they found is that if you put multiple people in a group and have them work together instead of slicing each others throats for individual sales they make use of each others strengths and abilities and feed into them to increase sales and productivity.