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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: purenaturalstrength on February 06, 2012, 12:04:51 PM
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been trying to get his opinion on this guy for ages
but dutchguy always shows up to defend his countryman
(http://www.true-natural-bodybuilding.com/graf/true-natural-bodybuilder-front-big.jpeg)
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natural as a cock in man's ass ::)
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claims 20" arms at 6' height
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there is a reason gh15 does not respond to your call...
you should know by now that this is not natural....read the bible.. read his posts...
about the dude in pic:
look at his traps and shoulders.... no natural ever has traps.... never... just doesn't happen... not like that.. swollen..
he is on low doses ofcourse but he is not natural...
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there is a reason gh15 does not respond to your call...
you should know by now that this is not natural....read the bible.. read his posts...
about the dude in pic:
look at his traps and shoulders.... no natural ever has traps.... never... just doesn't happen... not like that.. swollen..
he is on low doses ofcourse but he is not natural...
but he replies to questions about other guys
why not this guy
what's going on
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The guy wears glasses, looks like a super dork, therefore most likely Dutch alright. I hate him already...he's on something. Kunt.
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The guy wears glasses, looks like a super dork, therefore most likely Dutch alright. I hate him already...he's on something. Kunt.
plus one glance at his website and you know he's a pussy
he said he was squatting 10 reps with 120kg and the HEAVY LEG WORKOUTS TOOK THEIR TOLL and he had a horrible spinal injury and ever since only did leg presses and leg extensions
souns like the kind of guy who trains with mind bending intensity?
i think not.
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plus one glance at his website and you know he's a pussy
he said he was squatting 10 reps with 120kg and the HEAVY LEG WORKOUTS TOOK THEIR TOLL and he had a horrible spinal injury and ever since only did leg presses and leg extensions
souns like the kind of guy who trains with mind bending intensity?
i think not.
10x120 hahaha what a beast
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10x120 hahaha what a beast
http://www.true-natural-bodybuilding.com/aboutme.html
At the age of 18, when I entered university, my parents allowed me for the first time to go to a real gym. Luckily for me, Gold's Gym Hasselt, probably one of the best hard core gyms Belgium has ever had, was only 4 miles away from home. Studying physics at the university and going to the gym 5 times per week was a tough combination. But "When the going gets tough, the tough gets going", and I was getting some very good results at university and in the gym. The muscles grew, and the boy became stronger, squatting 10 reps with 120 kg (265 lbs) and benching 10 reps with 100 kg (220 lbs), at a body weight of about 87 kg (192 lbs) and 183 cm (6 feet) tall, after only 4 months.
Life was becoming too bright and fate turned itself against me. The heavy leg workouts took revenge and I got a severe lower back injury, a spinal disc herniation, about the worst injury you can get as a weight lifter.
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but he replies to questions about other guys
why not this guy
what's going on
bro......
THERE IS ONLY ONE BEAUTYFULL MAN WITH GLASSES!!!!
gh15 thinks this guy is a copy cat.....
that's why no reponse... ;D ;D
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bro......
THERE IS ONLY ONE BEAUTYFULL MAN WITH GLASSES!!!!
gh15 thinks this guy is a copy cat.....
that's why no reponse... ;D ;D
i find it disturbing he does not comment
this guy has a whole website dedicated to himself being natural
and he's bigger than lay nortom
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(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/199928_10150101932401845_543866844_6581024_7169427_n.jpg)
this guy is supposedly trenbolona addict so how is that guy on top of the page natral?
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come to think of it, this guy looks like he has even worse genetic than me
(http://hcam.com.au/forum/download/file.php?id=3842)
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SOMEONE EXPLAIN HOW IS THIS GUY NATURAL WHEN LAY NORTOM ISNT?????
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Like you wrote, he's from Belgium, so he's not Dutchguy's countryman, and yes, call me naive or whatever, I do believe he's natural and I've already discussed this guy with GH15.
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he is not fucking natural you dumb piece of shit
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Like you wrote, he's from Belgium, so he's not Dutchguy's countryman, and yes, call me naive or whatever, I do believe he's natural and I've already discussed this guy with GH15.
what did gh15 say and can you prove this with links to those posts?
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you idiots know zero about genetics
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Is that a recent or old pic?
i dont know i just posted the worst pictures of him i could find
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That dude's delts are a dead give away that he is on something.
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That dude's delts are a dead give away that he is on something.
also as i pointed out he most likely trains like a huge vagina with bad form to boot
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what did gh15 say and can you prove this with links to those posts?
Can't find the specific thread, but I did found this one, http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=printpage;topic=396403.0, which was a follow up by YOU (Guess, you're a bad responder to fish oil, LOL!) on the thread I was referring to (Dutchguy or me called him "Joske").
LOL, I need to prove myself to a GH15 groupie, who says "curious what gh15 says, what he says i will accept", pathetic, haha!
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Can't find the specific thread, but I did found this one, http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=printpage;topic=396403.0, which was a follow up on the thread I was referring to (Dutchguy or me called him "Joske").
LOL, I need to prove myself to a GH15 groupie, who says "curious what gh15 says, what he says i will accept", pathetic, haha!
ok so instead i should listen to you and dutchguy?
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ok so instead i should listen to you and dutchguy?
Did I told you that? Some weird logic, LOL. No, one of the great things about this board, is that there are different views/opinions. Don't get me wrong, I like must of the stuff that GH15 writes, but I also believe in a good discussion with solid arguments.
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my main reason for joining this forum was to ask gh15 about this guy
and he doesn't comment
pisses me off like fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fuckfuckfuckffuck
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my main reason for joining this forum was to ask gh15 about this guy
and he doesn't comment
pisses me off like fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fuckfuckfuckffuck
haha,is that u in ur avatar PNS? :o
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there is a reason gh15 does not respond to your call...
you should know by now that this is not natural....read the bible.. read his posts...
about the dude in pic:
look at his traps and shoulders.... no natural ever has traps.... never... just doesn't happen... not like that.. swollen..
he is on low doses ofcourse but he is not natural...
ha ha you call those .. swollen delts and traps....
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;)
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haha,is that u in ur avatar PNS? :o
yea
going for the health look
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ha ha you call those .. swollen delts and traps....
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;)
claims this is a 20" arm which i doubt it actully is
but it doesnt look natural to me (http://www.true-natural-bodybuilding.com/graf/true-natural-bodybuilding-biceps-l.jpeg)
brandon curry doesnt have 20" arms how does this guy have 20" arms
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LOL, why do you care if someone is a nattie or not? Just have some fun on this board, and keep in mind that GH15 is just a human being like you and me, who isn't right all the time.
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really, eithteen inch arm dont look natural to you?
my my what eye for bodybuilding!
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LOL, why do you care if someone is a nattie or not? Just have some fun on this board, and keep in mind that GH15 is just a human being like you and me, who isn't right all the time.
because his website is one of the first hits for "natural bodybuilding" and the thoughts of him being a fraud pisses me off badly
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i'm going to bed there better be some clarity on this matter when i wake up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CONDITIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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because his website is one of the first hits for "natural bodybuilding" and the thoughts of him being a fraud pisses me off badly
Dude, you must have a hard life, you better relax a bit, which lowers your "cortisolla" levels
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Looks natural to me.....lotta jealous delusional ecto's on here ::)
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there is a reason gh15 does not respond to your call...
you should know by now that this is not natural....read the bible.. read his posts...
about the dude in pic:
look at his traps and shoulders.... no natural ever has traps.... never... just doesn't happen... not like that.. swollen..
he is on low doses ofcourse but he is not natural...
I had better traps than the guy in a pic when I was natural.
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Looks natural to me.....lotta jealous delusional ecto's on here ::)
Was this comment ironic or do you still believe in somatotypes?
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his body is achievable while natural in that picture. he lies about his stats though so who knows if he's lying about other things.
his arms are 17 inches max, and he's pretty high bodyfat too which makes them even less impressive.
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Can't find the specific thread, but I did found this one, http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=printpage;topic=396403.0, which was a follow up by YOU (Guess, you're a bad responder to fish oil, LOL!) on the thread I was referring to (Dutchguy or me called him "Joske").
LOL, I need to prove myself to a GH15 groupie, who says "curious what gh15 says, what he says i will accept", pathetic, haha!
People on this forum are just straight up sick in the head.
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What would happen if we all knew for a fact that he was all natural.......NOTHING!!
What would happen if we all knew for a fact that he was all drugs.......NOTHING!!
Thread over!
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I had better traps than the guy in a pic when I was natural.
you guys completely miss the point.... some people may have "better" traps... as in shape wise...
he has a specific look to them that only comes from steroid use...
swollen.... i call it... i know he is not huge....
specific look... caused by steroids...
shoulders also... that area ia always a dead give away....
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ha ha you call those .. swollen delts and traps....
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;)
yes indeed... if you look at his traps... in the middle... they are swollen..only slightly... in the middle of the muscle... a nice round shape.. i know his traps suck.... not huge ... i did not say huge...
i said swollen.. a specific look only steroids give...
dude is pretty big and has great arms....
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you guys completely miss the point.... some people may have "better" traps... as in shape wise...
he has a specific look to them that only comes from steroid use...
swollen.... i call it... i know he is not huge....
specific look... caused by steroids...
shoulders also... that area ia always a dead give away....
Also his chest, look how it pops out. You never see that with true naturals, they never have that 3d look to the chest, especially with low bodyfat.
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Are you a fag or something? You know how I know you're fucked purenaturalhomo?
1) You actually assume that someone can tell you whether this guy is natural or not just by looking at him.
2) He is pumped, not that lean, and in lighting which makes him look his best.
3) His build is certainly attainable naturally. Are you that impatient and that stupid that you couldn't achieve this yourself naturally? Maybe you just had such a busy lifestyle you couldn't, I'll hope that is the case.
BTW, I like how you post a picture of someone after he was injured and still recovering. You're genetics both on a phsycial and mental level are apparently lacking.
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yes indeed... if you look at his traps... in the middle... they are swollen..only slightly... in the middle of the muscle... a nice round shape.. i know his traps suck.... not huge ... i did not say huge...
i said swollen.. a specific look only steroids give...
dude is pretty big and has great arms....
are you serious
im natural.... and my delts and traps make his look like nonsense.....
traps from YEARS of heavy deadlifts
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(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/PICT0291.png)
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Wow I own that ches mind
Thanks for posting anyway that pic was probably taken 2001
Over 10 yrs ago when I was small ;)
Here I'll help
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/5cf59bb4.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/3e1a632c.jpg)
All over 5 yrs old
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Wow I own that ches mind
???
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/gymP1010223.jpg)
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nice build meso78...arms,delts ,shape and size.
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thx man but thats a small me 175 - 180 in the pics
che posted
:)
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What would happen if we all knew for a fact that he was all natural.......NOTHING!!
What would happen if we all knew for a fact that he was all drugs.......NOTHING!!
Thread over!
exactly!
this same logic can be applied to atheism which is why atheism is a silly religion that only seeks to usurp God with science.
the tbombz signal has been lit and is visible in the night sky
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3 pages
still no gh15
fuck it
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claims 20" arms at 6' height
20" arms haha ::)
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3 pages
still no gh15
fuck it
there's no way to be 100% certain if he's natural or not dude. he's within the realm of a "natural" maximum for a body and he's pretty soft looking. appears natural but that doesn't mean he is and considering he lies about 20 inch arms, who knows if he's lying about his natural status like so many others
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natural as a cock in man's ass ::)
lmao
THIS
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Like most are saying - who can really know? I'd be happy to accept that he's done that without gear. For a lot of naturals, 120kg squats would be a fairly heavy weight - likewise 100kg benches. And if he IS natural, the poor fucker probably spent 12 weeks dieting to get to this point :P
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100kg benches are a joke, wtf?
i know a natural, complete twink at 8% bodyfat at 5'10 and 155 pounds, benches 235 for reps and can probably max out 300. he doesn't even train seriously and drinks and parties most of the time.
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been trying to get his opinion on this guy for ages
but dutchguy always shows up to defend his countryman
(http://www.true-natural-bodybuilding.com/graf/true-natural-bodybuilder-front-big.jpeg)
Hard to tell with this guy. He's big, but not too cut or vascular. Pic could easily have been taken pumped after a workout. He also has proportionate development (shoulders and traps not overdeveloped relative to other sites as in many guys on androgens). Overall good build and hard to tell if good nattie or PHs/low doses of adrogens.
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He is lying about his arm size, so why should we believe his claim to be natural?
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Hard to tell with this guy. He's big, but not too cut or vascular. Pic could easily have been taken pumped after a workout. He also has proportionate development (shoulders and traps not overdeveloped relative to other sites as in many guys on androgens). Overall good build and hard to tell if good nattie or PHs/low doses of adrogens.
x2. I would tend towards designers/ph/low doses just because his face doesn't look like someone with naturally high test though.
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He wears glasses, if he is willing to artificially enhance his vision he is willing to artificially enhance his muscles.
::)
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Hard to tell with this guy. He's big, but not too cut or vascular. Pic could easily have been taken pumped after a workout. He also has proportionate development (shoulders and traps not overdeveloped relative to other sites as in many guys on androgens). Overall good build and hard to tell if good nattie or PHs/low doses of adrogens.
I agree it's possible he's natural. He has a similar look to me and I am nattie.
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He should be ashamed of how he looks if he is not natural...i got accused of being on gear when i was a nattie because everybody said you can not have traps that big natural bla bla...i was just a smoth mofo that did deadlifts all the time....anyway because nobody thought i was natural anyway i said fuck it everybody has already judged me so letīs bring dem d-balls and test on
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???
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/gymP1010223.jpg)
Thats not the black dude from Spartacus.
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He looks like a fucking natty.
I don't get why people think he's on the juice.
Of course somebodys biceps can easily measure 20 inches when 5 of the inches are fat.
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reson i dont answer is becaus i didnt see it,, now i had chance to read the postings,, optimus is atlest as knowlwdable about hormones as gh15 if not more,, he describe to you this fella to the t ,, this fella is hormonized,, i also answer in in past,, low dose ,, try to pul natural since he make living of NATURAL lol webpage,, his look to a smaller! degree can be achieved natural IF younger fellaunder 30 but! not his weight,, the natural fella with similar look wil be about 175-180lb when same bodyfat 5'10
this fella can be pass as natural for GENERAL public but he is as hormonized as all of us here and anywhere,,
the product he use are
halodrol
superdrol
testosterona no ester and short ester small low doses! and cycling it
oxandrolona
trenbolona low doses
etc
but! i will go here and tell you the exact ! products he use so you get of my ass about it once and for all
this fella is favour of
primobolan ,, legit primobolnaa
anadrola! legit anadrola
low doses of hgh CYCLED ,, he is only use if for longetivity and over all skin look with fat burning proprties not for actual growth he use lowe dose and cycle it ,,im talking here 2 iu ! again its nto a must for this physiqe but! he himself use it
this is his culprit
a cycle for fella like this will be
interchanging between turinabola/halodrola which is same balonie and anadrola depenidng on what needed
good solid dose of legit primobolana acetatoor depot depend what he can get legit probbaly cook it himself in acatato form
and as i said low dose gh in 2 iu
testosterona is only replacment of 150mg a week if! probably 50mg every 2-3 day inject and also not all year round depending on needs
this is basicay his cycles to the t,, this is enough to pass as natural but as you can see just as filt as all of them
gh15 approved
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He looks like a fucking natty.
I don't get why people think he's on the juice.
Of course somebodys biceps can easily measure 20 inches when 5 of the inches are fat.
this fella is not fat,, he is lean in the 7-8% zone with good skin tone! ,, he is not young either,, this fella is on and for many many years,, just low dose and make livign of natural ilusion
fellas think he is on juice because he is on juice ...lot more than juice,, HORMONES that include peptides,, low dose and time right but! its all there ,, when fella make money of his or her body they always stop in nothing,, if they sell natural ilusion then they will stop at something ,, and it is long esters inorder not to get cought,, but! if not competing i have been with fellas who use depot forms of many drugs while natural lol
thats just how it is
i can make that felle heris make fun of ,, ehats his name jason jhonson or something ,, litle slow white fella,, i can make him look like this fella in this picture within 6 months on the right products
gh15 approved
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lol @ him being "fat". ::)
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reson i dont answer is becaus i didnt see it,, now i had chance to read the postings,, ...
gh15 approved
But PNS is like a special aid puppy ::)
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who gives a shit
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He would look much more impressive if he knew how to pose.
3 simple natural tips.
1. Learn to pose
2. Never wear tank-tops
3. Don't mimic training protocols used by professionals.
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He would look much more impressive if he knew how to pose.
3 simple natural tips.
1. Learn to pose
2. Never wear tank-tops
3. Don't mimic training protocols used by professionals.
What about masturbating in the sauna
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relief is washing over me now that gh15 has replied i can sleep again at night
this issue was driving me crazy the last months
thanks gh15
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But PNS is like a special aid puppy ::)
you aren't too bright either
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this fella is not fat,, he is lean in the 7-8% zone with good skin tone! ,, he is not young either,, this fella is on and for many many years,, just low dose and make livign of natural ilusion
fellas think he is on juice because he is on juice ...lot more than juice,, HORMONES that include peptides,, low dose and time right but! its all there ,, when fella make money of his or her body they always stop in nothing,, if they sell natural ilusion then they will stop at something ,, and it is long esters inorder not to get cought,, but! if not competing i have been with fellas who use depot forms of many drugs while natural lol
thats just how it is
i can make that felle heris make fun of ,, ehats his name jason jhonson or something ,, litle slow white fella,, i can make him look like this fella in this picture within 6 months on the right products
gh15 approved
jason genova, yes he should be helped, he is trying to be pro but needs someone to hold him down and make an injection in his ass (no homo)
he can bench 315 all retard strength pure natural
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lol @ him being "fat". ::)
fat is anything over 12% (if you're talking with the "bodysculpting/bodybuilding" realm) and IMO this dude ain't fat, but he ain't diced either, he's sitting at around 8-9% in that posted pic
honestly I'm not so impressed by this fella, and both che and Falcon crush him
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fat is anything over 12% (if you're talking with the "bodysculpting/bodybuilding" realm) and IMO this dude ain't fat, but he ain't diced either, he's sitting at around 8-9% in that posted pic
honestly I'm not so impressed by this fella, and both che and Falcon crush him
Yea but I still don't think he's fat by off season standards, whatsoever.
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Yea but I still don't think he's fat by off season standards, whatsoever.
agree,,if he dropped 10/15 lbs he would totally different and if truly clean that smooth thickness look would be gone .
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reson i dont answer is becaus i didnt see it,, now i had chance to read the postings,, optimus is atlest as knowlwdable about hormones as gh15 if not more,, he describe to you this fella to the t ,, this fella is hormonized,, i also answer in in past,, low dose ,, try to pul natural since he make living of NATURAL lol webpage,, his look to a smaller! degree can be achieved natural IF younger fellaunder 30 but! not his weight,, the natural fella with similar look wil be about 175-180lb when same bodyfat 5'10
this fella can be pass as natural for GENERAL public but he is as hormonized as all of us here and anywhere,,
the product he use are
halodrol
superdrol
testosterona no ester and short ester small low doses! and cycling it
oxandrolona
trenbolona low doses
etc
but! i will go here and tell you the exact ! products he use so you get of my ass about it once and for all
this fella is favour of
primobolan ,, legit primobolnaa
anadrola! legit anadrola
low doses of hgh CYCLED ,, he is only use if for longetivity and over all skin look with fat burning proprties not for actual growth he use lowe dose and cycle it ,,im talking here 2 iu ! again its nto a must for this physiqe but! he himself use it
this is his culprit
a cycle for fella like this will be
interchanging between turinabola/halodrola which is same balonie and anadrola depenidng on what needed
good solid dose of legit primobolana acetatoor depot depend what he can get legit probbaly cook it himself in acatato form
and as i said low dose gh in 2 iu
testosterona is only replacment of 150mg a week if! probably 50mg every 2-3 day inject and also not all year round depending on needs
this is basicay his cycles to the t,, this is enough to pass as natural but as you can see just as filt as all of them
gh15 approved
stupid question.....how is turinabol and halodrol the same?
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you aren't too bright either
So regarding yourself, you admit it? That's a step forward ;D
Your GH15 adoration is pathetic, I wouldn't be surprised if you would allow him to piss on you.
In case you want to judge about me, come with solid arguments ::)
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All of a sudden, everyone is on primobolan!
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Would not doubt for a second that he is nattie especially having lifted for years!
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stupid question.....how is turinabol and halodrol the same?
sme thing,, halodrol is just with nice wrap to pass as over counter,, its 80% turinabol the other 20% you just take little more of it,, one of best drug out there and available everywhere to purchas with no dealer lol ,, this cult is FILT!
gh15 approved
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sme thing,, halodrol is just with nice wrap to pass as over counter,, its 80% turinabol the other 20% you just take little more of it,, one of best drug out there and available everywhere to purchas with no dealer lol ,, this cult is FILT!
gh15 approved
::)
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i can make that felle heris make fun of ,, ehats his name jason jhonson or something ,, litle slow white fella,, i can make him look like this fella in this picture within 6 months on the right products
gh15 approved
I can rarely understand what you type, but let me try and figure this out.
You are saying you can make Jason Genova look like this supposedly natural guy in 6 months on the right products?
This guy...
(http://jasongenova.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Jason-Genova9-237x300.jpg)
into this guy....
(http://www.true-natural-bodybuilding.com/graf/true-natural-bodybuilder-front-big.jpeg)
I would hope so.... I would think anyone could look like that guy after 6 months of just about any AAS.
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All of a sudden, everyone is on primobolan!
i am wondering the same thing
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its nto al of suden ,, it alwys been this way ,, the fact i dont mention drug doesnt mean it not there!,, it doesnt mean if i talk about primobolnaa that equipona is lost and gone,,
BODYBUILD = ADDICT,, we alwys change always get on compounds and go off compounds,, we have the base we always on and then aroudn it we change and adjust,,
just because i mention primobolana doesnt mean its not there when i dotn mention it!,,
gh15 approved
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seriously? Seriously?
obviously that sex-offender looking mongoloid is not natural. Those could well be 20" arms since he's 6 foot and about 13% bf, mine are just off 20" pumped and don't look anything like slinpimp's or the other jacked guys here because I'm about as soft as the Dutch Douche in the OP.
blah blah blah he doesn't look like an NPC superheavy in contest condition so he must be natural.. fuck me this place is turning into bodybuilding.com
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seriously? Seriously?
obviously that sex-offender looking mongoloid is not natural. Those could well be 20" arms since he's 6 foot and about 13% bf, mine are just off 20" pumped and don't look anything like slinpimp's or the other jacked guys here because I'm about as soft as the Dutch Douche in the OP.
blah blah blah he doesn't look like an NPC superheavy in contest condition so he must be natural.. fuck me this place is turning into bodybuilding.com
are you guys smoking crack???
13% lololol!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
this guy is in high single digits!
you can see the abs clearly... veins going from biceps into shoulder region....
sidewalls of the ab region is visible..no real fat around belly button....
13% lolololol!!! this is about 9% he wil be at 7% after diuretics...
calling this guy fat! only thing on him is WATER from the STEROIDS used....
when will you people learn....
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are you guys smoking crack???
13% lololol!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
this guy is in high single digits!
you can see the abs clearly... veins going from biceps into shoulder region....
sidewalls of the ab region is visible..no real fat around belly button....
13% lolololol!!! this is about 9% he wil be at 7% after diuretics...
calling this guy fat! only thing on him is WATER from the STEROIDS used....
when will you people learn....
I have a feeling that some of getbigs newest members are straddling both boards, when I see that shit lol! 13% hahahaha in that case i'm 24% body fat because my abs aren't striated and I have no veins in my bellbutton oh brother
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I have a feeling that some of getbigs newest members are straddling both boards, when I see that shit lol! 13% hahahaha in that case i'm 24% body fat because my abs aren't striated and I have no veins in my bellbutton oh brother
lol......! indeed bro!
they have no clue....
these noobs never competed or helped athlete's get ripped....
someone who has been there knows what single digit looks like...
knows difference between water and fat....
knows a natural when they see one... lol...
most bodybuilders that are considered out of shape are actually somewhere at 13% !!
for the average human being 13% is lean!!!! lol!!
if you have sidewalls of abs visible , no real fat around belly button, veins coming in from your arms into shoulder/chest area... you are not above 9% lol....
what makes him look a little soft is WATER...
they have no clue.... and some idiots in this thread actually called him FAT!!! lol....
they must be sitting around at 4% on a daily basis then.. the monsters.... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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I am arguably fat but dont know a thing about GH or As. Why I believe he could be natural.
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i'm just very very very very very very very very very pissed off so many people believe he is natural despite the fact he is obviously a wimp who injured himself with 1x120kg squats and refers to that as "the heavy leg workouts took their toll......"
i mean that is proof right there he wouldnt be anything at all WHATSOEVER without juice
REAL naturals need to suffer suffer hard for the slightest gains
and can of course not achieve this size
it fucking pisses me off so much that i nearly get a brain aneurysm thinging about it
that's why i wanted the gh15 seal of disapproval confirmed liar filt
so everybody must shut up now and accept he is NOT NATURAL
now let me breath deeply and calmly
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been trying to get his opinion on this guy for ages
but dutchguy always shows up to defend his countryman
(http://www.true-natural-bodybuilding.com/graf/true-natural-bodybuilder-front-big.jpeg)
You really want his cock, don't you PNS ?
And he's natural, it says so on his site !! ;D
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You really want his cock, don't you PNS ?
And he's natural, it says so on his site !! ;D
he's very unattractive looks like a geek/nerd/dork
ha! and now you're being sarcastic about it
so you admit he is not natural now?
the power of gh15 cannot be denied indeed
i realized this which is why this thread was conceived
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he's very unattractive looks like a geek/nerd/dork
It's kinda funny, coz I knew an Australian dude who looked exactly like this guy (facially) but the dude was a fierce badass
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It's kinda funny, coz I knew an Australian dude who looked exactly like this guy (facially) but the dude was a fierce badass
that's funny because this guy crippled himself squatting 264lbs with shit form
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that's funny because this guy crippled himself squatting 264lbs with shit form
lol
well this Australian dude was a badass as far as fisticuffs were concerned, he never lifted a weight in his life
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Joske is a natural born killer from Flandria....don't cross his path. ;D
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Joske is a natural born killer from Flandria....don't cross his path. ;D
120kg squatting 100kg benching natural freak
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120kg squatting 100kg benching natural freak
Jos is the new John Massis....
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Jos is the new John Massis....
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Gentbrugge_graf_John_Massis_29-04-2010_14-34-52.JPG)
in that case we will not have to bear his existance much longer
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sme thing,, halodrol is just with nice wrap to pass as over counter,, its 80% turinabol the other 20% you just take little more of it,, one of best drug out there and available everywhere to purchas with no dealer lol ,, this cult is FILT!
gh15 approved
which brands of halodrol are legit gh15? I thought alot of it if not all of it is bunk crap? enlighten us poor souls who have no access to dealers :-[
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120kg squatting 100kg benching natural freak
Hold on, you try to say a natural isn't capable to lift those weights? ::)
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PNS what are ur stats for lifts? i remember you saying you were into olympic lifting for a while?
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i'm just very very very very very very very very very pissed off so many people believe he is natural despite the fact he is obviously a wimp who injured himself with 1x120kg squats and refers to that as "the heavy leg workouts took their toll......"
i mean that is proof right there he wouldnt be anything at all WHATSOEVER without juice
REAL naturals need to suffer suffer hard for the slightest gains
and can of course not achieve this size
it fucking pisses me off so much that i nearly get a brain aneurysm thinging about it
that's why i wanted the gh15 seal of disapproval confirmed liar filt
so everybody must shut up now and accept he is NOT NATURAL
now let me breath deeply and calmly
^
PureNaturalMeltdown
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As natural as giving women equal rights..... ::) ::) ::) ::)
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The guy looks like a natural. He has the typical look of natural soft skin like me.
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Hold on, you try to say a natural isn't capable to lift those weights? ::)
i'm saying that you have to be on juice to develop any muscle handling these laughable weights
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The guy looks like a natural. He has the typical look of natural soft skin like me.
soft skin.... lol...
it's called being a metrosexual......
nothing to do with natural, all with skincreme.... ;D ;D ;D
he is as natural as you....
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The guy looks like a natural. He has the typical look of natural soft skin like me.
soft skin.... lol...
it's called being a metrosexual......
nothing to do with being natural, all to do with skincreme.... ;D ;D ;D
he is as natural as you.... ;)
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i'm saying that you have to be on juice to develop any muscle handling these laughable weights
Wrong, hypertrophy is about muscle stimulation; not the same as lifting as much as possible for 1-4 reps. Good rep ranges/% rep max weights for power, strength, hypertrophy & endurance have been discussed here, as much as the "who's better, Ronnie or Dorian?" debate, so I won't start another one.
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Wrong, hypertrophy is about muscle stimulation; not the same as lifting as much as possible for 1-4 reps. Good rep ranges/% rep max weights for power, strength, hypertrophy & endurance have been discussed here, as much as the "who's better, Ronnie or Dorian?" debate, so I won't start another one.
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you're quoting from bodybuilding.com, really? PNS i know you are a professional getbig troll but this is a new low for you :-[
hypertrophy can be from both low and high rep range: sarcomere hypertrophy will mostly caused by high weight low rep, due to muscle tissue breaking down, getting repaired and as a result muscle fibers grow larger in size; or sarcoplasmic hypertrophy, which is from high rep range (and also the large initial weight/strength gain from steroids like superdrol/anadrol) where the cell itself swells larger due to increased fluid/glucose/atp stores inside the cell translating into more energy for the mitochondria to work off of and essentially allowing you to do higher reps but not so much higher 1 rep max (which is increased by steroids due to androgens binding to receptors in the nervous system and increasing motor neural efficiency).
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you're quoting from bodybuilding.com, really? PNS i know you are a professional getbig troll but this is a new low for you :-[
i dont know i really think this guy is on to something
he must be a hardcore juicer by the way looking at his stats so he has been on two sides of the fence (natural and enhanced)
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he is definitely on gear, hahah. i didn't even had to read that i just saw his profile pic and instantly knew just by his side tricep look.
he's wrong about steroids not helping with the CNS, that is one area they help immensely with and overtraining is so overblown i don't think most people will ever experience CNS overload in their life.
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he is definitely on gear, hahah. i didn't even had to read that i just saw his profile pic and instantly knew just by his side tricep look.
he's wrong about steroids not helping with the CNS, that is one area they help immensely with and overtraining is so overblown i don't think most people will ever experience CNS overload in their life.
yeah his message is sort of conflicting, i'm not even sure what he is suggesting
because that "base" of 450-500lbs bench cannot be achieved with natural training at all but maybe he means natural hypertrophy doesnt work AT ALL and natural strength training works A LITTLE BIT
i also read (but it was on tea nation so not sure if legit) that roids enhance strength somehow thru cns something something
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yeah his message is sort of conflicting, i'm not even sure what he is suggesting
because that "base" of 450-500lbs bench cannot be achieved with natural training at all but maybe he means natural hypertrophy doesnt work AT ALL and natural strength training works A LITTLE BIT
i also read (but it was on tea nation so not sure if legit) that roids enhance strength somehow thru cns something something
yes as i touched on in the previous post, androgens work on the cns to improve motor neurological efficiency, which translates into increased firing times of muscle fibers and greater activation.
if you've ever been drunk as hell and tried to do anything that required some level of strength or coordination you will quickly find that you all the sudden have none, for no apparent reason. it is because alcohol is a CNS depressant, and steroids (and stimulants too) work in the opposite way. easy way to understand it, i think, but essentially steroids will vastly increase your 1rep max the more androgenic they are (e.i. halotestin, anadrol, test converting to DHT, tren, etc...)
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yes as i touched on in the previous post, androgens work on the cns to improve motor neurological efficiency, which translates into increased firing times of muscle fibers and greater activation.
if you've ever been drunk as hell and tried to do anything that required some level of strength or coordination you will quickly find that you all the sudden have none, for no apparent reason. it is because alcohol is a CNS depressant, and steroids (and stimulants too) work in the opposite way. easy way to understand it, i think, but essentially steroids will vastly increase your 1rep max the more androgenic they are (e.i. halotestin, anadrol, test converting to DHT, tren, etc...)
it happened to me once in a "street fight"
suddenly all my powers were gone :(
on a only very vaguely related not, i will ask you, is one beer potent enough to do any (even slightest) damage to physique or strength
i am contemplating on having a beer but am in an obsessive compulsive dilemma
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beer is pretty high in calories, but aside from that no. consistent drinking increases cortisol levels which in turn makes for an environment where muscle gets catabolized and visceral fat stores increase, making for the skinny fat type of look you see in people with giant beer guts and twig arms.
definitely not a good environment for someone serious about bodybuilding, though if you are on steroids, the AAS will reduce cortisol levels significantly making it a non-issue, so essentially what i'm saying is you should get on some deca you big poof.
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beer is pretty high in calories, but aside from that no. consistent drinking increases cortisol levels which in turn makes for an environment where muscle gets catabolized and visceral fat stores increase, making for the skinny fat type of look you see in people with giant beer guts and twig arms.
definitely not a good environment for someone serious about bodybuilding, though if you are on steroids, the AAS will reduce cortisol levels significantly making it a non-issue, so essentially what i'm saying is you should get on some deca you big poof.
ok let me put back that unopened can of beer in the fridge :-\
orange juice then :-\
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yes as i touched on in the previous post, androgens work on the cns to improve motor neurological efficiency, which translates into increased firing times of muscle fibers and greater activation.
if you've ever been drunk as hell and tried to do anything that required some level of strength or coordination you will quickly find that you all the sudden have none, for no apparent reason. it is because alcohol is a CNS depressant, and steroids (and stimulants too) work in the opposite way. easy way to understand it, i think, but essentially steroids will vastly increase your 1rep max the more androgenic they are (e.i. halotestin, anadrol, test converting to DHT, tren, etc...)
would that explain why i just can't seem to get drunk from time to time...??
lol... steroids stimulate the cns and alcohol surpresses it... so use both and it gets cancelled out?
;D ;D ;D ;D
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well, like i said just 1 beer isn't going to be a huge deal, it's mostly getting totally wasted multiple times a week, especially when natural - but when you are natural a strong breeze is enough to make you lose muscle and gain fat.
i don't know what kind of beer you are drinking but a lot of calories in alcoholic drinks, alochol it self has calories (i think 1g is 5kilocal) that doesn't get listed on the label and then they always add a ton of sugars to mask the horrible taste of the alcohol. weed is a better alternative :)
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wow this orange juice is phenomanal :o :-\
HARDCORE
BRING ON THE SWEET POTATOES AND DISPOSABLE MICROWAVES
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would that explain why i just can't seem to get drunk from time to time...??
lol... steroids stimulate the cns and alcohol surpresses it... so use both and it gets cancelled out?
;D ;D ;D ;D
i have no idea about the first question, probably has to do with how full your stomach is at the time, i imagine. i don't drink so not something i've ever felt the need to read about lol
second question: yes. though mixing stimulants, like amphetamines and depressants together is a really bad thing and can be dangerous. steroids different though and yes strength will be higher when drunk if on steroids than when natural and drunk. i don't know how much it really matter since i doubt most peopple lift when drunk but i do have a friend that consistently gets drunk and then goes to the gym and tries to play basketball or lift weights haha
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PNS, what was ur diet to get into your current condition? I assume you are actually all natural? you have a decent physique to aim for as a natural...
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yeah, pns you look really good for a natural. definitely a solid physique and a good foundation... for steroids ;D
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seriously he is probably the best natural on this board even if he is a bit weird. though mesomorph claims natural but I haven't seen any pictures of him :D
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PNS, what was ur diet to get into your current condition? I assume you are actually all natural? you have a decent physique to aim for as a natural...
usually oatmeal with milk and nuts for breakfast and a banana or orange (but gonna stop using milk, milk is for babies)
about three boxes of rice with chicken at work, then some snack after work usually something small like a little more oatmeal or a sandwhich
then dinner varies, steak with french fries, spaghetti, pizza, hamburgers with mashed potatoes, typical dinner food people usually eat
i think i eat pretty a lot but not as to wear i get fat apparently
current condition is the same like always i guess about 85kg decent bf% with some vains in arms and legs but not really defined abs and 15.8" arms i believe
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yeah, pns you look really good for a natural. definitely a solid physique and a good foundation... for steroids ;D
yes but one cant deny some massive structural flaws like clavicle length and 7" wrist girth
doesnt really matter for everyday roid body that's easy to maintain.... right :D
this is why i am so melting down vehemently at these fake naturals
it haunts me it fills me with rage and resentment
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my wrists are about 6 3/4th inch with the tap measure relatively loose around the wrist if i pull it tight it's close to 6 inches. i'm 6' and i have a 74inch wingspan, my bone structure is small as hell but clavicles are decently wide compared to waist.
small bone structure definitely a plus when on steroids, example arnold vs oliva. oliva had more mass but arnold's structure made him look better and bigger than he really was. bodybuilding is all about illusion.
but yes for a natural small bone structure is a death sentence. you'll have much harder time putting on any mass and your max natural size will be small as hell (which is why layne norton sure as hell isn't a natural with his shitty genetics)
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small bone structure definitely a plus when on steroids, example arnold vs oliva. oliva had more mass but arnold's structure made him look better and bigger than he really was. bodybuilding is all about illusion.
This. Look at Wheeler at his prime. Tiny joints, great muscle bellies, great resonse to gear. But would look like a POW without gear/oil...
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my wrists are about 6 3/4th inch with the tap measure relatively loose around the wrist if i pull it tight it's close to 6 inches. i'm 6' and i have a 74inch wingspan, my bone structure is small as hell but clavicles are decently wide compared to waist.
small bone structure definitely a plus when on steroids, example arnold vs oliva. oliva had more mass but arnold's structure made him look better and bigger than he really was. bodybuilding is all about illusion.
but yes for a natural small bone structure is a death sentence. you'll have much harder time putting on any mass and your max natural size will be small as hell (which is why layne norton sure as hell isn't a natural with his shitty genetics)
i hate lay nortom so fucking much cock sucker guy
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Just out of interest, PNS, did you know who John Massis was ?
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Just out of interest, PNS, did you know who John Massis was ?
i had to google it briefly, strong man pulling things with his teeth mostly
belgium like that supposed "natural" guy......
but clearly the strongest man to ever come out of that part of the world is this one
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Insane, could you imagine C&P 502 lbs ? I can't even deadlift that much right now, used to but I'm building up again....but C&P... :o
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Insane, could you imagine C&P 502 lbs ? I can't even deadlift that much right now, used to but I'm building up again....but C&P... :o
the reason i know about this guy is because i am highly convinced there is not a man on the planet earth right now that could equal that
the most impressive presser in history PERIOD
he was only defeated by a 2kg difference by alex with a lift that used leg drive but was illegitimately approved by the judging panel
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i hate lay nortom so fucking much cock sucker ####
and you should!,, he is cancer ,, true cancer in bodybuild ,,and fellas just let it go on ,, he make video, he make moeny from fake natural status,, he make actil clientel ,, he is a very decing fella from very young age in his teens,, back in bodybuild.com day when he was alreasdy playing around with hormones whiel very young,, eveyrthing he did was a perfectly executed plan ,, he played the system as simple as that,, not in his wildst dream did he think gh15 wil surface one day and bring it all out
gh15 approved
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the reason i know about this guy is because i am highly convinced there is not a man on the planet earth right now that could equal that
the most impressive presser in history PERIOD
he was only defeated by a 2kg difference by alex with a lift that used leg drive but was illegitimately approved by the judging panel
Agreed. That press looked REALLY easy, unreal. We got a long way ahead, my friend... 8)
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and you should!,, he is cancer ,, true cancer in bodybuild ,,and fellas just let it go on ,, he make video, he make moeny from fake natural status,, he make actil clientel ,, he is a very decing fella from very young age in his teens,, back in bodybuild.com day when he was alreasdy playing around with hormones whiel very young,, eveyrthing he did was a perfectly executed plan ,, he played the system as simple as that,, not in his wildst dream did he think gh15 wil surface one day and bring it all out
gh15 approved
i hate him so much so so much i can see he is just a 95lbs weakling genetic inflated on roids and his ego is massive and i mean massive
he gets into internet fights with people who comment on his youtube videos and challenges them to bodybuilding competitions
look at this LOOK AT THIS
(http://hcam.com.au/forum/download/file.php?id=3842)
what a genetic miracle............. goddamnit i want this guy to be exposed so hard that he will move to a deserted island and start a new life away from shame
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:)
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there is a reason gh15 does not respond to your call...
you should know by now that this is not natural....read the bible.. read his posts...
about the dude in pic:
look at his traps and shoulders.... no natural ever has traps.... never... just doesn't happen... not like that.. swollen..
he is on low doses ofcourse but he is not natural...
That has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read on this board. I have traps. Swollen. Yet, have never touched any sort of gear. I am sure you misunderstood GH15's writings. Easy to do!
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lay nortom could be natural if! the numbers were 165-170lb and not 195-200 ,, then! he would be natural ,,this woul dbe extremly hard to get down to 170 with 4% he probably would hve to be 160-165lb for his 5'11 height but! i would apply the status natural to him IF! he was 170lb ...then i would close eye and say ok ,, he is 25-30lb over that on stage! thus a filt liar,,
remember what nyjohn told you i forget his fucking boarding name getny? i think ,, he said in past steroids will add 25-30lb on your original weight,,25-30lb of muscle getny was right....it is 25-30lb can be much more with other hormones beside steroids but! the over all fake natural work on being 25-30lb extra to not make it obvious,, which is ofcourse dumb and retard way for 30lb over yoru natural numbers IS HUGE DIFF,,
lay nortom should be sued ,, he should be outed for the liar he is ,, he should realy be sued and there may be a loup hole where he can be sued for misleading for he actualy go by his real name and sell services,, so lay nortom betere lay his fuckin ugly skiny head down and shut up,,
filt
gh15 approved
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lay nortom could be natural if! the numbers were 165-170lb and not 195-200 ,, then! he would be natural ,,this woul dbe extremly hard to get down to 170 with 4% he probably would hve to be 160-165lb for his 5'11 height but! i would apply the status natural to him IF! he was 170lb ...then i would close eye and say ok ,, he is 25-30lb over that on stage! thus a filt liar,,
remember what nyjohn told you i forget his fucking boarding name getny? i think ,, he said in past steroids will add 25-30lb on your original weight,,25-30lb of muscle getny was right....it is 25-30lb can be much more with other hormones beside steroids but! the over all fake natural work on being 25-30lb extra to not make it obvious,, which is ofcourse dumb and retard way for 30lb over yoru natural numbers IS HUGE DIFF,,
lay nortom should be sued ,, he should be outed for the liar he is ,, he should realy be sued and there may be a loup hole where he can be sued for misleading for he actualy go by his real name and sell services,, so lay nortom betere lay his fuckin ugly skiny head down and shut up,,
filt
gh15 approved
it saddens me that so many kids these days take his crap seriously
"hey i'm doing this POWER AND HYPERTROPHY ROUTINE by this guy called lay nortom" i cringe whenever i get this story at the gym
makes me want to melt down but i realize they are not ready for the truth
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Layne should be whipped in public, don't you agree ?
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Layne should be whipped in public, don't you agree ?
i want to smack him around with a belt
i want to force him to squat 495lbs for quality full reps with the bar on his traps without a belt or knee apparel
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"Say that to my face nancy boy."
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"Say that to my face nancy boy."
careful what u wish for lay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
are you sure you want to take a chance and face a furiously enraged natural bolstering all his frustration of year of furious training with mediocre results like a laser beam at your weak chin?
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"Come on in the ring cupcake. I'll crush you."
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Why can't we invite Lame to join getbig...?
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"Come on in the ring cupcake. I'll crush you."
flawless victory by kick to the calves
you wouldn't stand a chance
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/5891_107531639630_516194630_2081357_4345534_n.jpg)
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;D ;D ;D hahaha
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Why can't we invite Lame to join getbig...?
because we dont take kindly to those types in here :-X
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(http://i.imgur.com/K1lPo.png)
And your point is And the point of this poster is....lifting for hypertrophy won't make sense without gear? If so, it depends on how high you want to raise the bar, so that's up to you.
I've got the feeling you have a hard time about making the decision whether to juice or not, is that correct?
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And your point is And the point of this poster is....lifting for hypertrophy won't make sense without gear? If so, it depends on how high you want to raise the bar, so that's up to you.
I've got the feeling you have a hard time about making the decision whether to juice or not, is that correct?
PNS got lousy genetics, that's it period.
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I would say the peopel calling BS look worse than the guy posted.
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And your point is And the point of this poster is....lifting for hypertrophy won't make sense without gear? If so, it depends on how high you want to raise the bar, so that's up to you.
I've got the feeling you have a hard time about making the decision whether to juice or not, is that correct?
seems not worth it if you look at risk and finances seems very worth it if you look at results
nasser said for a lot of people it becomes a nightmare
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PNS got lousy genetics, that's it period.
it's all relative
lousy compared to ronnie the coleman? or lousy compared to dutchguy? :-X
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PNS got lousy genetics, that's it period.
Please, don't act so childish. If you have something against PNS, be a man and say it clear, dutchpussy
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Please, don't act so childish. If you have something against PNS, be a man and say it clear, dutchpussy
I don't have anything against PNS, he knows that. I just think he worked very hard naturally without the gains he expected. I wish him all the best. I'm not a bad guy, DP..... :(
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seems not worth it if you look at risk and finances seems very worth it if you look at results
nasser said for a lot of people it becomes a nightmare
So you're still unsure about it, correct?
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I don't have anything against PNS, he knows that. I just think he worked very hard naturally without the gains he expected. I wish him all the best. I'm not a bad guy, DP..... :(
I know, you're a good person (honest), but sometimes you act a bit childish during a discussion. I know, it can't be serious all the time, but you know what I mean, don't you? So no hard feelings, bro
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I would say the peopel calling BS look worse than the guy posted.
Look worse in what way? Having a muscular body combined with a face only a mother could love doesn't mean you look better than normal untrained folks. You of all people should understand this concept perfectly.
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PNS are those your legs?
450-500 for bench is too high, in retrospect. Most people here will never make that, much less people BB.com. I think only Steve Namat here has showed that kind of strength potential with his 170lb DB pressing (and that lying black dude who claims to be natural?)
More like get to benching 365-405 for a few reps, then switch over to benching 275-315 for slow, high rep sets
although as I'm finding, when you get injured you lose the 'pump training gains' a lot quicker. 5 weeks off pressing with a shoulder injury and my upper chest and delts have literally vanished.
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seems not worth it if you look at risk and finances seems very worth it if you look at results
nasser said for a lot of people it becomes a nightmare
what risks? no real risks except when using heavy cycles, and also same goes for the financial costs. using low dosages is so freaking cheap, deca and test are literally cheaper than bottles water, i'm not even kidding. just have to know where to get them ;)
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Look worse in what way? Having a muscular body combined with a face only a mother could love doesn't mean you look better than normal untrained folks. You of all people should understand this concept perfectly.
lol!!!
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Look worse in what way? Having a muscular body combined with a face only a mother could love doesn't mean you look better than normal untrained folks. You of all people should understand this concept perfectly.
Everyone else in this thread was discussing his physique. Not his face you closet case.
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That has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read on this board. I have traps. Swollen. Yet, have never touched any sort of gear. I am sure you misunderstood GH15's writings. Easy to do!
You are correct there is a little fellow at the guym who is about 140 at 5'7' and he is natural, but he has huge traps and biceps. Kid is always training his traps. No back width or thickness at ALL.
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it's all relative
lousy compared to ronnie the coleman? or lousy compared to dutchguy? :-X
I think lousy compared to both, fysiologically. But your drive is better than mine for sure...
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I know, you're a good person (honest), but sometimes you act a bit childish during a discussion. I know, it can't be serious all the time, but you know what I mean, don't you? So no hard feelings, bro
Yea yea you're right... :-\
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You are correct there is a little fellow at the guym who is about 140 at 5'7' and he is natural, but he has huge traps and biceps. Kid is always training his traps. No back width or thickness at ALL.
So typical... there's a permabulker in my gym, doing 10 sets of shrugs, but never trains his back, apart from some hyperextentions. On the other hand I see him sharing his "broscience" to eager pupils, just because he's big, pathetic....
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Yea yea you're right... :-\
Kop op, ik ben ook wel eens een eikel (eigenlijk best vaak, geloof ik ;D)
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Kop op, ik ben ook wel eens een eikel (eigenlijk best vaak, geloof ik ;D)
kan je niks aan doen,zijn de nederlandse genen... we zijn een zeikvolk! ;D ;D ;D
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kan je niks aan doen,zijn de nederlandse genen... we zijn een zeikvolk! ;D ;D ;D
Ja dat is wel zo, denk ik. Maar we waren met een paar miljoen wel de nr 1 wereldmacht in de gouden eeuw, en dat was en werd nooit meer vertoond!!!! gotverdegodver, als het ware, reeds...
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Ja dat is wel zo, denk ik. Maar we waren met een paar miljoen wel de nr 1 wereldmacht in de gouden eeuw, en dat was en werd nooit meer vertoond!!!! gotverdegodver, als het ware, reeds...
ja klopt!! goede gouden tijd! ook hadden we de machtigste vloot van de wereld... 8)
maar waar we nu zitten... in de zinkende boot die EU heet.... pfffffffffffff vreselijk!
en om over de minderheden problemen maar te zwijgen....
pedo's krijgen taakstraf, maar til je de belasting ga je jaren t'hok in...
als je een loverboy kapot ramt, ga je zelf langer t'hok in als die lul...
de zorg stelt niks meer voor, alles flikkeren ze uit t basispakket, terwijl de prijzen omhoog gaan, net als de huur trouwens... maar de salarissen stijgen niet in verhouding mee...
ik ben blij dat ik er weg ben bro....echt....
brasil heeft ook zijn nadelen, maar hier ben je vrij....in nederland word je geleefd door de samenleving....
elke dag hetzelfde ritme, de sleur... en je moet wel! , je hebt geen keus... moet de rekeningen betalen...
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OP, vertel ons kaaskoppen wat over de fijne- en minder fijne kanten van Brazilië.
Ik ken Braz nl. alleen van deze kant
(http://boston.3432.voxcdn.com/wp-content/gallery/boston/juliana-salimeni/98837_septimiu29_JulianaSalimeni_PlayboyBrazil_Jan20102_123_116lo.jpg)
en hun chille muziek
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ok bro..
mooie kanten...
de vrouwen zijn hier super... nog echt vrouw... sexy gekleed, doen moeite voor hun man... ook als je al jaren bij elkaar bent...
het klimaat... heerlijk weer elke dag... ligt er wel aan waar je zit in brazilie...
de mensen zijn erg leuk en heel gastvrij... waarderen het erg als je de moeite doet om hun taal en cultuur te leren....
corruptie: voor alles is een alternatief of een maniertje om sneller of goedkoper te doen hahaha.. het bekende "jeitinho brasileiro"
goedkoop leven...je hebt hier weinig nodig.... eten en drinken is goedkoop...
ontzettend mooi land en prachtige natuur! ik zit in het amazone gebied... echt prachtig...
geen stress! alles rustig aan... vandaag niet dan morgen wel!
mindere kanten...
de mensen zijn superaardig maar ook opportunistisch... vooral toeristen zijn vaak de lul...
corruptie.... het heeft ook een mindere kant.... politie is corrupt , regering is corrupt.....
grote verschillen tussen arm en rijk.....
gevaarlijk... sommige delen zijn gewoon erg link...
ik moet zeggen dat ik me nooit onveilig voel hier... maar ja ze kenne me hier in de buurt...doe niet arrogant klets met ze, geef ze af en toe wat geld om drank te kopen haha... ben een van hun...
ik voel me hier happy ..... ;D ;D
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Brasil sounds nice
Google translate works well I must say
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Brasil sounds nice
Google translate works well I must say
Eat this Google Translate:
"Fijn dat je het goed hebt begrepen, gozertje met dat PVV zeemeeuw logo op de kippenborst ;D"
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:D
LMFAO!!!! ;D
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ok bro..
mooie kanten...
de vrouwen zijn hier super... nog echt vrouw... sexy gekleed, doen moeite voor hun man... ook als je al jaren bij elkaar bent...
het klimaat... heerlijk weer elke dag... ligt er wel aan waar je zit in brazilie...
de mensen zijn erg leuk en heel gastvrij... waarderen het erg als je de moeite doet om hun taal en cultuur te leren....
corruptie: voor alles is een alternatief of een maniertje om sneller of goedkoper te doen hahaha.. het bekende "jeitinho brasileiro"
goedkoop leven...je hebt hier weinig nodig.... eten en drinken is goedkoop...
ontzettend mooi land en prachtige natuur! ik zit in het amazone gebied... echt prachtig...
geen stress! alles rustig aan... vandaag niet dan morgen wel!
mindere kanten...
de mensen zijn superaardig maar ook opportunistisch... vooral toeristen zijn vaak de lul...
corruptie.... het heeft ook een mindere kant.... politie is corrupt , regering is corrupt.....
grote verschillen tussen arm en rijk.....
gevaarlijk... sommige delen zijn gewoon erg link...
ik moet zeggen dat ik me nooit onveilig voel hier... maar ja ze kenne me hier in de buurt...doe niet arrogant klets met ze, geef ze af en toe wat geld om drank te kopen haha... ben een van hun...
ik voel me hier happy ..... ;D ;D
Klinkt over het algemeen goed, dat was al zo'n beetje het beeld wat ik van Latijns-Amerikaanse landen heb. Ik moet daar beslist een keer heen!
Je werkt daar als trainer, als ik het goed heb? Heb het vroeger ook gedaan, maar het verdiende geen drol, wel een van mijn leukste banen.
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You guys can't honestly think this guy is on something...
There is nothing in any of these pictures that is a "dead giveaway" that he's on something.
Way to pin every guy with a decent physique with drug use ::)
Pun intended
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Klinkt over het algemeen goed, dat was al zo'n beetje het beeld wat ik van Latijns-Amerikaanse landen heb. Ik moet daar beslist een keer heen!
Je werkt daar als trainer, als ik het goed heb? Heb het vroeger ook gedaan, maar het verdiende geen drol, wel een van mijn leukste banen.
brazilie is het leukste land van latijns amerika... ja mano, je moet echt eens erheen... moeite zeker waard!
nope geen trainer....
ik doe incassoīs.....
en eens in de 3 week beveiliging van een band...ga ik mee op reis.... maar das meer voor de lol...
de incassoīs is wat geld oplevert... ;D
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Brasil sounds nice
Google translate works well I must say
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PNS are those your legs?
450-500 for bench is too high, in retrospect. Most people here will never make that, much less people BB.com. I think only Steve Namat here has showed that kind of strength potential with his 170lb DB pressing (and that lying black dude who claims to be natural?)
More like get to benching 365-405 for a few reps, then switch over to benching 275-315 for slow, high rep sets
although as I'm finding, when you get injured you lose the 'pump training gains' a lot quicker. 5 weeks off pressing with a shoulder injury and my upper chest and delts have literally vanished.
are you saying you are halfway?
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I think lousy compared to both, fysiologically. But your drive is better than mine for sure...
are there any pictures of this genetically blessed body?
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are there any pictures of this genetically blessed body?
(http://berrydemeyfansite.com/DeMey-14a.jpg)
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(http://berrydemeyfansite.com/DeMey-14a.jpg)
awesome build...one of the best from that era,,,
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This guys about as hormonised as an organic free range corn fed chicken breast.
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(http://berrydemeyfansite.com/DeMey-14a.jpg)
this is what i am going for......love this look!
not that dyhydrated though... lol...
but mass/height ratio is perfect here!
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awesome build...one of the best from that era,,,
From the same town as DG, Rotterdam.
I think this picture is from the '88 Olympia (3rd place).
He had balance and charisma, great person.
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From the same town as DG, Rotterdam.
I think this picture is from the '88 Olympia (3rd place).
He had balance and charisma, great person.
weighed in 227,,,,the famous white robe 88 weigh ins,,,,
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weighed in 227,,,,the famous white robe 88 weigh ins,,,,
yes!!! i remember watching that tape....
berry took of his robe.... turned around.... BOOM XMASS TIME..!!!
crowd went like WOW WTF!!!!
awesome bodybuilder.... i am a big big fan of this type of look!!!
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yes!!! i remember watching that tape....
berry took of his robe.... turned around.... BOOM XMASS TIME..!!!
crowd went like WOW WTF!!!!
awesome bodybuilder.... i am a big big fan of this type of look!!!
we have discussed this many times over we both like the look plus your from there lol,,,,anyway he was bigger as amateur,then 85,86,87 mro was still bigger with great shape top 6 ,,what turned it on to come in 88 diced like that ,,he was prepared head to toe hair hilighted lol,tan,overall just perfect for that show,,,actually labrada,gaspari all hilighted hair too,,,
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we have discussed this many times over we both like the look plus your from there lol,,,,anyway he was bigger as amateur,then 85,86,87 mro was still bigger with great shape top 6 ,,what turned it on to come in 88 diced like that ,,he was prepared head to toe hair hilighted lol,tan,overall just perfect for that show,,,actually labrada,gaspari all hilighted hair too,,,
yes correct... in '88 he tried a different approach...... SHREDDED!!!
he loved his parabolans! lol....
worked well for him this look....
bodybuilding should go back to this man...... it was cool....:(
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yes correct... in '88 he tried a different approach...... SHREDDED!!!
he loved his parabolans! lol....
worked well for him this look....
bodybuilding should go back to this man...... it was cool....:(
too late,,,
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this is what i am going for......love this look!
not that dyhydrated though... lol...
but mass/height ratio is perfect here!
Oh yeah, I wouldn't mind to have that look (no homo, yes nattie, LOL).
I saw him twice in person (mid nineties) where he was more massive, but less energetic (there's a negative correlation between that) than on that pic, the classic bigger=better mistake :-\
That dehydrated look made him impressive, not his mass. He was like a taller and better version of Lee Labrada. He should have beat Gaspari in '88.
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Oh yeah, I wouldn't mind to have that look (no homo, yes nattie, LOL).
I saw him twice in person (mid nineties) where he was more massive, but less energetic (there's a negative correlation between that) than on that pic, the classic bigger=better mistake :-\
That dehydrated look made him impressive, not his mass. He was like a taller and better version of Lee Labrada. He should have beat Gaspari in '88.
yes!!!! gaspari was a trainwreck of bodyparts....
de Mey was more complete...far better structure, even more shredded, more aesthetic.... a better bodybuilder....
de Mey even beat haney in the leg department....seperation and the hams/calves....
Haney was overall the better bodybuilder though...just to much of a difference in overall mass.
and yeah mid nineties berry was walking around at about 125 kilos offseason.... was a pretty big dude!!
i saw him at a guestpose in Delfijl.... Eemsmondcup..... impressive... was '95 if i am remembering correctly...
huge dude....!
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too late,,,
yes bro , sad isn't it?
well this is my personal goal...
mass to height ratio that is.....
so no competition for me.... lol.. sad, but in this day and age you are stuck at national level with a physique like this.....
but to me bodybuilding is personal, no need to compete.....
anyone who trains to be bigger and better built, is a BODYBUILDER!!!!!
we all have different goals and expectations though....
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anyone who trains to be bigger and better built, is a BODYBUILDER!!!!!
Isn't it funny, well, rather sad, that many dudes say they perform "fitness". Coming out of the closet seems less harder, than admitting you're a bodybuilder ::)
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Then this is a brave man....
(http://www.kulturismo.com/foro/attachment.php?attachmentid=17&cid=18)
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dutchguy i asked a picture of yourself to assess if you are in fact correct when you say i have lousy genetik compared to you
you can send it in pm (no homo) i will not distribute it
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I have the intention nor the desire to do so, sir..
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I have the intention nor the desire to do so, sir..
then why make such a random claim if you have no intention of proving it
you are just talk and talk but not really action or proof
not melting down just pointing this out
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Which claim exactly?
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Which claim exactly?
If I remember correctly I wrote (days ago?) that I think his genetics are worse than mine.
He's a natural, he trained very hard and devoted. He posted some pics of his and he's just not as good as I was after a period of hard natural training. That's it. Other guys have better genetics than me. What's the problem here ?
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If I remember correctly I wrote (days ago?) that I think his genetics are worse than mine.
He's a natural, he trained very hard and devoted. He posted some pics of his and he's just not as good as I was after a period of hard natural training. That's it. Other guys have better genetics than me. What's the problem here ?
Guess the real problem lies in PNS. To me, it seems he's a pretty insecure person, looking for things like " the truth", "proofs", "facts", etc. He believes no one here, except GH15 and people posting their pics (well, "their" is very relative, on a thing called "Internet"). Other than that the guy has zero sense of humor. Talking about lifting weights serious business for him. No hate on him, just my opinion/observation, for what's worth it.
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If I remember correctly I wrote (days ago?) that I think his genetics are worse than mine.
He's a natural, he trained very hard and devoted. He posted some pics of his and he's just not as good as I was after a period of hard natural training. That's it. Other guys have better genetics than me. What's the problem here ?
problem is that you are not the most upstanding poster and that's why i can't take your word for it
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problem is that you are not the most upstanding poster and that's why i can't take your word for it
So "the most upstanding poster" has automatically the best genetics? ::)
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problem is that you are not the most upstanding poster and that's why i can't take your word for it
Forget my statements about your and my genetic, dude, was does it matter ?
(but mine are better)
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So "the most upstanding poster" has automatically the best genetics? ::)
i'm saying i can believe some posters when they claim something without providing evidence, dutchguy is not one of them
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Guess the real problem lies in PNS. To me, it seems he's a pretty insecure person, looking for things like " the truth", "proofs", "facts", etc. He believes no one here, except GH15 and people posting their pics (well, "their" is very relative, on a thing called "Internet"). Other than that the guy has zero sense of humor. Talking about lifting weights serious business for him. No hate on him, just my opinion/observation, for what's worth it.
Lifting weights is serious business.
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yes bro , sad isn't it?
well this is my personal goal...
mass to height ratio that is.....
so no competition for me.... lol.. sad, but in this day and age you are stuck at national level with a physique like this.....
but to me bodybuilding is personal, no need to compete.....
anyone who trains to be bigger and better built, is a BODYBUILDER!!!!!
we all have different goals and expectations though....
exactly,,,you go to gym,train,eat things start to happen,,,,you advance and go 2 routes natural or not and the latter if you do things right things really take off,,then you decide if you want to look good every day,beach,fitness ripped or try to be a beast ,somewhere in between if possible is most peoples take or goal ,,if u stay clean/natural /drugfree you hit your limit whethers its size,condition and you stay put and don't cry about it.
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Come to think of it, I can't recall ever writing a lie about myself on getbig. And I am being serious now... :)
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Come to think of it, I can't recall ever writing a lie about myself on getbig. And I am being serious now... :)
it's not lying if you actually believe it to be true, it's being delusional
which i suspect you are
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I'm not delusional, I'm a helicopter...
But seriously: what weird statements did I make in your eyes ?
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I'm not delusional, I'm a helicopter...
But seriously: what weird statements did I make in your eyes ?
superior genetik, would not be that weird if you did not refuse to show some form of evidence
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superior genetik, would not be that weird if you did not refuse to show some form of evidence
I'm not in shape lately, and I never was a poser back then. So I cannot post a pic for proof. But does that prove that I am wrong ? If you disbelieve me, oke with me. Don't be so hostile, I'm not putting you down as a person or something...
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Lifting weights is serious business.
Why so serious?
(http://storage.sfd.pl/ObrazkiSFD/zdjeciaSFD/797ddded8beb4339a923176ac0d38b6f.jpg)
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ja klopt!! goede gouden tijd! ook hadden we de machtigste vloot van de wereld... 8)
maar waar we nu zitten... in de zinkende boot die EU heet.... pfffffffffffff vreselijk!
en om over de minderheden problemen maar te zwijgen....
pedo's krijgen taakstraf, maar til je de belasting ga je jaren t'hok in...
als je een loverboy kapot ramt, ga je zelf langer t'hok in als die lul...
de zorg stelt niks meer voor, alles flikkeren ze uit t basispakket, terwijl de prijzen omhoog gaan, net als de huur trouwens... maar de salarissen stijgen niet in verhouding mee...
ik ben blij dat ik er weg ben bro....echt....
brasil heeft ook zijn nadelen, maar hier ben je vrij....in nederland word je geleefd door de samenleving....
elke dag hetzelfde ritme, de sleur... en je moet wel! , je hebt geen keus... moet de rekeningen betalen...
Modern day slavery. Nothing more nothing less.
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Modern day slavery. Nothing more nothing less.
yeah bro exactly...
you dutch? or did you actually take the time to google translate??? ;D ;D ;D
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Why so serious?
(http://storage.sfd.pl/ObrazkiSFD/zdjeciaSFD/797ddded8beb4339a923176ac0d38b6f.jpg)
why all the trouble of the make up (or photoshop??)
the dude looks scary enough wihout any "help" lolol!!!
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purenaturaldrivel, how did your first cycle go?
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why all the trouble of the make up (or photoshop??)
the dude looks scary enough wihout any "help" lolol!!!
You saw that ZK vid with his joker "imitation"? Hilarious stuff, but he made a point with his "why so serious" statement, spending your time in the gym should also be fun.
Yeah, he's got that face-only-a-mother-could-love factor ;D
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yeah bro exactly...
you dutch? or did you actually take the time to google translate??? ;D ;D ;D
Yes bro I was born in holland, but don't plan on staying there for the rest of my life, for obvious reasons. :P
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Yes bro I was born in holland, but don't plan on staying there for the rest of my life, for obvious reasons. :P
Sooner or later, Dutchguy will be the only getbigger in Holland
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Yes bro I was born in holland, but don't plan on staying there for the rest of my life, for obvious reasons. :P
i hear ya... ;)
i am still very glad i left!
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i hear ya... ;)
i am still very glad i left!
And I'm jealous. :P Gotta save some more money.
Brutale vraag maar wat doe jij voor de kost in brazilie?
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And I'm jealous. :P Gotta save some more money.
Brutale vraag maar wat doe jij voor de kost in brazilie?
Geld incasseren, anders klappen uitdelen en het dan alsnog incasseren ;D
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Geld incasseren, anders klappen uitdelen en dan het alsnog incasseren ;D
lol... beetje bruut gezegt... maar zoiets wel idd..... hahahaha...
klinkt erger als t is hoor.... zijn allemaal boefjes onder elkaar....
we zitten geen brave huisvaders lastig te vallen zeg maar... ;D ;D ;D
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You saw that ZK vid with his joker "imitation"? Hilarious stuff, but he made a point with his "why so serious" statement, spending your time in the gym should also be fun.
Yeah, he's got that face-only-a-mother-could-love factor ;D
HE cracks me up. Dude is nuts.
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claims this is a 20" arm which i doubt it actully is
but it doesnt look natural to me (http://www.true-natural-bodybuilding.com/graf/true-natural-bodybuilding-biceps-l.jpeg)
brandon curry doesnt have 20" arms how does this guy have 20" arms
how the fuck does brandon curry not have 20 inch arms?
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how the fuck does brandon curry not have 20 inch arms?
by not lying....
brandon has a supreme physique so doesn't need to lie about measurements
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how the fuck does brandon curry not have 20 inch arms?
that "natural" dude is dutch right???
he is probably 6' plus..... his arms in my opinion look great! with a pump he will have 19 inches....
so together with bullshitfactor you have 20's lol....
curry is in better condition there, and is much shorter....
really not so hard to understand.....
if the dutch "natural" would diet down, and would be in condition he would end up with 18's maybe 18,5
which is pretty big if in condition!!!!!!!
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Sooner or later, Dutchguy will be the only getbigger in Holland
Holland is awful alright, I'm bailing too within the next year
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Holland is awful alright, I'm bailing too within the next year
bro,
why are you even there then??
study?
work?
girl?
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jail?
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that "natural" dude is dutch right???
he is probably 6' plus..... his arms in my opinion look great! with a pump he will have 19 inches....
so together with bullshitfactor you have 20's lol....
curry is in better condition there, and is much shorter....
really not so hard to understand.....
if the dutch "natural" would diet down, and would be in condition he would end up with 18's maybe 18,5
which is pretty big if in condition!!!!!!!
Again and again: HE IS NOT DUTCH...
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Again and again: HE IS NOT DUTCH...
That's because Optimus is a wise man, he doesn't accept Belgium as a nation.
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bro,
why are you even there then??
study?
work?
girl?
I'm here working and paying my taxes unlike the majority of your lovely Muslims...don't worry I won't be staying much longer, I hate it there
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Actually, I am the only Dutch person Dave likes (a bit)....and I'm proud of it ;D
I like the Irish myself, I stated that before I think. Some good memories of holidays, filled with liquor and dirty deeds done dirt cheap.
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that "natural" dude is dutch right???
he is probably 6' plus..... his arms in my opinion look great! with a pump he will have 19 inches....
so together with bullshitfactor you have 20's lol....
curry is in better condition there, and is much shorter....
really not so hard to understand.....
if the dutch "natural" would diet down, and would be in condition he would end up with 18's maybe 18,5
which is pretty big if in condition!!!!!!!
his website says he's 6'
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That's because Optimus is a wise man, he doesn't accept Belgium as a nation.
because it is not a real country, just waste land in between actual countries
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because it is not a real country, just waste land in between actual countries
Hey, my gal is Belgian, so are my kids ! >:( >:(
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Actually, I am the only Dutch person Dave likes (a bit)....and I'm proud of it ;D
I like the Irish myself, I stated that before I think. Some good memories of holidays, filled with liquor and dirty deeds done dirt cheap.
No, the Dutch are ok when you get to know them, just not very friendly at the beginning. Belgians seem friendlier but maybe I'm wrong
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Hey, my gal is Belgian, so are my kids ! >:( >:(
it was just a secessionist state in the late 60's from south-eastern netherlands due to economic, ethnic, cultural and religious tensions among the various peoples of the netherlands. After two-and-a-half years of war, during which a million civilians had died in fighting and from famine, dutch forces agreed to a ceasefire with the UN, and "Belgium" was created
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No, the Dutch are ok when you get to know them, just not very friendly at the beginning. Belgians seem friendlier but maybe I'm wrong
you're right
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Hey, my gal is Belgian, so are my kids ! >:( >:(
Finally you admit you're dad, was that so hard? ;)
As you prob know, I love the Belgians :)
(http://static0.demorgen.be/static/FOTO/pe/16/16/10/art_large_141490.jpg) (http://www.urbanusfan.be/urbanus/discografie/urbanusmasterserie/urbanusmasterserie.jpg)
(http://www.gunk.be/attachments/gunktv-nieuws-polls-en-magazines/402d1255872550-kamagurka-wint-bernd-pfarr-sonderpreis-20071019-kamagurka-echt-gebeurd-c2-a9-marc-gysens_200x307.gif) (http://www.muzikum.eu/covers/2/2037.png) (http://static-2.socialgo.com/cache/646/image/148.jpg) (http://www.amourdurocknroll.fr/pages/images/bobbejaan_rock_en_rollmops_pochette_cd0.jpg)
(http://teapacks.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/kim2.jpg) (http://www.swaef.com/wp-content/uploads/margriet-en-dochter.jpg)
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Wendy van wanten en patat friet is het enige goede wat uit belgie komt... ;D
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Wendy van wanten en patat friet is het enige goede wat uit belgie komt... ;D
No Goedele and this ???
(http://belgianbeershrimper.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/hougaerdse-das.jpg?w=500)
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No man...goedele you have to ask if she wants to have anal...wendy puts it right where you really want (pun intended) it!!... ;D
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it was just a secessionist state in the late 60's from south-eastern netherlands due to economic, ethnic, cultural and religious tensions among the various peoples of the netherlands. After two-and-a-half years of war, during which a million civilians had died in fighting and from famine, dutch forces agreed to a ceasefire with the UN, and "Belgium" was created
you're pulling shit out of your ass
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you're pulling shit out of your ass
whatever you ignorant sheep
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No man...goedele you have to ask if she wants to have anal...wendy puts it right where you really want (pun intended) it!!... ;D
I remember her sex educations on the radio. After a while, I was tired about her "deep" analysis's about things like penetrations, orgasms, toys, foreplays, etc. Sex should be fun, not a science project :-\
However, I like her as a person and for her sexy/mysterious/intelligent look.
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how the fuck does brandon curry not have 20 inch arms?
Thats when Brandon was smaller.
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That's because Optimus is a wise man, he doesn't accept Belgium as a nation.
well , to be honest people here said he was dutch so i presumed he was....
however belgium is a shithole... even worse then POLAND...lol!
goedele is and ugly ass bitch
manneke pis is like fucking 10cm irl....
it's dirty and the roads suck!
one half are french , that the real french did not want, other half is dutch that the real dutch did not want....
well , maybe 2 things that came from belgium that are cool....
1st JCVD ...... he is doing Expendables 2, so he is cool!
second and i am surprised none of you people have mentioned him... he is a legend!!!!
leather jacket
funky hair
awesome accent and voice
the weirdest docs
it's JAMBERS!!!!!!!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I'm here working and paying my taxes unlike the majority of your lovely Muslims...don't worry I won't be staying much longer, I hate it there
well living in the Netherlands and paying taxes go hand in hand my friend... lol!
and yeah... lovely isn't these muslims......
I am soooo glad i left the shithole!
I may live in what europe refers to as a 3rd world country.... but i love it here...!
I have freedom, no taxes.... no muslims... no antilianen, and other scum that bother you on the Netherlands....
And the strange thing is , here in brasil there are also a lot of different cultures, buit somehow here they do adjust and are decent and normal people....
Must be something in the water in the Netherlands.... well actually it's that fucking no good soft government there....
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Hey, my gal is Belgian, so is my dog ! >:( >:(
What do you mean..?
;D
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No, the Dutch are ok when you get to know them, just not very friendly at the beginning. Belgians seem friendlier but maybe I'm wrong
You are right indeed. Many Belgians don't like the Dutch because they are rude and too loud...
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it was just a secessionist state in the late 60's from south-eastern netherlands due to economic, ethnic, cultural and religious tensions among the various peoples of the netherlands. After two-and-a-half years of war, during which a million civilians had died in fighting and from famine, dutch forces agreed to a ceasefire with the UN, and "Belgium" was created
hahahaha I like this one.. ;D
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Finally you admit you're dad, was that so hard? ;)
As you prob know, I love the Belgians :)
You forgot the most famous of them all, my gal even has a pic taken with him.....
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-J4BOW4GrleY/TVxvk0ZOXpI/AAAAAAAAIrw/5QYbGN4Ypvw/s1600/eddy%2Bwally%2Bfront.JPG)
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You forgot the most famous of them all, my gal even has a pic taken with him.....
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-J4BOW4GrleY/TVxvk0ZOXpI/AAAAAAAAIrw/5QYbGN4Ypvw/s1600/eddy%2Bwally%2Bfront.JPG)
To be honest, i was thinking about this other "cowboy" but I forgot his name. I remember his guest appearances on Studio Brussels (Studio Kafka). Good radio times 8) R.I.P. good radio :'(