A lifetime natural bodybuilder - is this true? Opinions?

[purenaturalstrength]

"Come on in the ring cupcake. I'll crush you."

flawless victory by kick to the calves


you wouldn't stand a chance

[tommywishbone]

  hahaha

[purenaturalstrength]

Why can't we invite Lame to join getbig...?

because we dont take kindly to those types in here

[DroppingPlates]

And your point is And the point of this poster is....lifting for hypertrophy won't make sense without gear? If so, it depends on how high you want to raise the bar, so that's up to you.
I've got the feeling you have a hard time about making the decision whether to juice or not, is that correct?

[Dr Dutch]

And your point is And the point of this poster is....lifting for hypertrophy won't make sense without gear? If so, it depends on how high you want to raise the bar, so that's up to you.
I've got the feeling you have a hard time about making the decision whether to juice or not, is that correct?

PNS got lousy genetics, that's it period.

[Ursus]

I would say the peopel calling BS look worse than the guy posted.

[purenaturalstrength]

And your point is And the point of this poster is....lifting for hypertrophy won't make sense without gear? If so, it depends on how high you want to raise the bar, so that's up to you.
I've got the feeling you have a hard time about making the decision whether to juice or not, is that correct?

seems not worth it if you look at risk and finances seems very worth it if you look at results


nasser said for a lot of people it becomes a nightmare

[purenaturalstrength]

PNS got lousy genetics, that's it period.

it's all relative


lousy compared to ronnie the coleman? or lousy compared to dutchguy? 

[DroppingPlates]

PNS got lousy genetics, that's it period.

Please, don't act so childish. If you have something against PNS, be a man and say it clear, dutchpussy

[Dr Dutch]

Please, don't act so childish. If you have something against PNS, be a man and say it clear, dutchpussy

I don't have anything against PNS, he knows that. I just think he worked very hard naturally without the gains he expected. I wish him all the best. I'm not a bad guy, DP.....

[DroppingPlates]

seems not worth it if you look at risk and finances seems very worth it if you look at results


nasser said for a lot of people it becomes a nightmare

So you're still unsure about it, correct?

[DroppingPlates]

I don't have anything against PNS, he knows that. I just think he worked very hard naturally without the gains he expected. I wish him all the best. I'm not a bad guy, DP.....

I know, you're a good person (honest), but sometimes you act a bit childish during a discussion. I know, it can't be serious all the time, but you know what I mean, don't you? So no hard feelings, bro

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

I would say the peopel calling BS look worse than the guy posted.

Look worse in what way? Having a muscular body combined with a face only a mother could love doesn't mean you look better than normal untrained folks. You of all people should understand this concept perfectly.

[Mawse]

PNS are those your legs?

450-500 for bench is too high, in retrospect. Most people here will never make that, much less people BB.com. I think only Steve Namat here has showed that kind of strength potential with his 170lb DB pressing (and that lying black dude who claims to be natural?)

More like get to benching 365-405 for a few reps, then switch over to benching 275-315 for slow, high rep sets

although as I'm finding, when you get injured you lose the 'pump training gains' a lot quicker. 5 weeks off pressing with a shoulder injury and my upper chest and delts have literally vanished.

[aesthetics]

seems not worth it if you look at risk and finances seems very worth it if you look at results


nasser said for a lot of people it becomes a nightmare

what risks? no real risks except when using heavy cycles, and also same goes for the financial costs. using low dosages is so freaking cheap, deca and test are literally cheaper than bottles water, i'm not even kidding. just have to know where to get them 

[OptimusPrime1980]

Look worse in what way? Having a muscular body combined with a face only a mother could love doesn't mean you look better than normal untrained folks. You of all people should understand this concept perfectly.

lol!!!

[Ursus]

Look worse in what way? Having a muscular body combined with a face only a mother could love doesn't mean you look better than normal untrained folks. You of all people should understand this concept perfectly.

Everyone else in this thread was discussing his physique. Not his face you closet case.

[jude2]

That has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read on this board. I have traps. Swollen. Yet, have never touched any sort of gear. I am sure you misunderstood GH15's writings. Easy to do!

You are correct there is a little fellow at the guym who is about 140 at 5'7' and he is natural, but he has huge traps and biceps. Kid is always training his traps. No back width or thickness at ALL.

[Dr Dutch]

it's all relative


lousy compared to ronnie the coleman? or lousy compared to dutchguy? 

I think lousy compared to both, fysiologically. But your drive is better than mine for sure...

[Dr Dutch]

I know, you're a good person (honest), but sometimes you act a bit childish during a discussion. I know, it can't be serious all the time, but you know what I mean, don't you? So no hard feelings, bro

Yea yea you're right...

[DroppingPlates]

You are correct there is a little fellow at the guym who is about 140 at 5'7' and he is natural, but he has huge traps and biceps. Kid is always training his traps. No back width or thickness at ALL.

So typical... there's a permabulker in my gym, doing 10 sets of shrugs, but never trains his back, apart from some hyperextentions. On the other hand I see him sharing his "broscience" to eager pupils, just because he's big, pathetic....

[DroppingPlates]

Yea yea you're right...

Kop op, ik ben ook wel eens een eikel (eigenlijk best vaak, geloof ik )

[OptimusPrime1980]

Kop op, ik ben ook wel eens een eikel (eigenlijk best vaak, geloof ik )

kan je niks aan doen,zijn de nederlandse genen... we zijn een zeikvolk! 

[Dr Dutch]

kan je niks aan doen,zijn de nederlandse genen... we zijn een zeikvolk! 

Ja dat is wel zo, denk ik. Maar we waren met een paar miljoen wel de nr 1 wereldmacht in de gouden eeuw, en dat was en werd nooit meer vertoond!!!!    gotverdegodver, als het ware, reeds...

[OptimusPrime1980]

Ja dat is wel zo, denk ik. Maar we waren met een paar miljoen wel de nr 1 wereldmacht in de gouden eeuw, en dat was en werd nooit meer vertoond!!!!    gotverdegodver, als het ware, reeds...

ja klopt!! goede gouden tijd! ook hadden we de machtigste vloot van de wereld... 

maar waar we nu zitten... in de zinkende boot die EU heet.... pfffffffffffff vreselijk!
en om over de minderheden problemen maar te zwijgen....
pedo's krijgen taakstraf, maar til je de belasting ga je jaren t'hok in...
als je een loverboy kapot ramt, ga je zelf langer t'hok in als die lul...
de zorg stelt niks meer voor, alles flikkeren ze uit t basispakket, terwijl de prijzen omhoog gaan, net als de huur trouwens... maar de salarissen stijgen niet in verhouding mee...
ik ben blij dat ik er weg ben bro....echt....
brasil heeft ook zijn nadelen, maar hier ben je vrij....in nederland word je geleefd door de samenleving....
elke dag hetzelfde ritme, de sleur... en je moet wel! , je hebt geen keus... moet de rekeningen betalen...