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How the fuck do you guys deal with this? In the past two days I've had three hours of sleep. I can't sleep before 8 AM, just doesn't happen. I tried sleeping four hours ago, I just tossed and turned in bed for three hours before giving up on sleep... again... What do?
Don't say "I deal with trensomnia by not using tren". ;D
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Try some melatonin or xanax or something I don't know.
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try some sleep :D
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Think I'll get me some melatonin, see if that works.
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How the fuck do you guys deal with this? In the past two days I've had three hours of sleep. I can't sleep before 8 AM, just doesn't happen. I tried sleeping four hours ago, I just tossed and turned in bed for three hours before giving up on sleep... again... What do?
Don't say "I deal with trensomnia by not using tren". ;D
Sleep with the fan in your face. You might get sick but it will knock you out.
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How the fuck do you guys deal with this? In the past two days I've had three hours of sleep. I can't sleep before 8 AM, just doesn't happen. I tried sleeping four hours ago, I just tossed and turned in bed for three hours before giving up on sleep... again... What do?
Don't say "I deal with trensomnia by not using tren". ;D
I used to have this problem when I actually made "homebrew"... It sucked, I know but prob the best Tren I ever had... Valium or colonpins helped... I noticed after a while the sleeplessness went away..
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How the fuck do you guys deal with this? In the past two days I've had three hours of sleep. I can't sleep before 8 AM, just doesn't happen. I tried sleeping four hours ago, I just tossed and turned in bed for three hours before giving up on sleep... again... What do?
Don't say "I deal with trensomnia by not using tren". ;D
I started a thread about this months ago. I use xanax. takes away anxiety and puts you out! its a human tranquilizer! it is addictive so start at 1mg a night before bed if that dosn't work use 2-3mg. first try melatonin is that is over the counter and it might work for you. but any benzo like valium,ativan, klonopin or the king xanax will work for sure. especially xanax since it works the fastest.
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I started a thread about this months ago. I use xanax. takes away anxiety and puts you out! its a human tranquilizer!
Isn't xanax addictive?
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I started a thread about this months ago. I use xanax. takes away anxiety and puts you out! its a human tranquilizer!
It would suck to get hooked on that shit though. I have some laying around I use for severely stressfull days. I have to be careful not to take it more than a few days in a row. I've been through opiate withdraw that is fucken hell I heard benzo wd is like 5 times worse.
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This has worked for me. And I gotta be up by 0530. I have plenty of valium which I've been backing away from. It'll get me down by 1am. I just can't wake up. And I really don't want a permanant benzo habit. This works pretty good and is all natural, still wake up groggy but atleast you sleep some: 5-htp, melatonin, valerian root, benadryl or unisom which is a different antihystimine(doxylamine)25-50mg either. Works for me for the most part. Anyone else got anything else natural to throw in there I missed? Oh and I take all at once. Valerian smells like shit but works.
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Also, don't really have any anxiety from tren. Just can't fucking sleep, I'm buzzing all the time!
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Going to the gym would help a lot.
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Isn't xanax addictive?
yes super addictive! becarfeul with it if you find some. thats why you might want to try the melatonin. you can get hooked on xanax very easily especially if you take more then 1-2mg a night. all benzos are super addictive. they work though. if you can use a small amount you could probably stop without any withdrawal. but anymore than 3mg a night you will def get withdrawal symptoms. even if you just use it for a few weeks. It will work. but it comes with a risk of addiction.
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yes super addictive! becarfeul with it if you find some. thats why you might want to try the melatonin. you can get hooked on xanax very easily especially if you take more then 1-2mg a night. all benzos are super addictive. they work though. if you can use a small amount you could probably stop without any withdrawal. but anymore than 3mg a night you will def get withdrawal symptoms. even if you just use it for a few weeks. It will work. but it comes with a risk of addiction.
Fuck that shit, I don't want to be addicted to anything!
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It would suck to get hooked on that shit though. I have some laying around I use for severely stressfull days. I have to be careful not to take it more than a few days in a row. I've been through opiate withdraw that is fucken hell I heard benzo wd is like 5 times worse.
What opiate Mak? I danced with the devil(oxy) for over a year. Been off since May 2011, and it's still in my head(hence the reason I lift myself to death). Thats why I backed the fuck off the Valium. If that withdrawal is worse than oxy, I dont want no part of it. Opiate withdrawal was and absolute nightmare. But I was able to do it on my own. I just got to where I couldn't even look at myself in the mirror. Thank god I never progressed to smoking or banging that shit.
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It would suck to get hooked on that shit though. I have some laying around I use for severely stressfull days. I have to be careful not to take it more than a few days in a row. I've been through opiate withdraw that is fucken hell I heard benzo wd is like 5 times worse.
I have had both benzo and opiate withdrawals together and was crippled. but yes just single benzo withdrawal is horrible. try the melatonin. if you use a benzo like xanax or klonopin or valium keep the dose very low and you wont have a real hard time getting off them . you have to taper off benzos slowly and you will be cool.
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What opiate Mak? I danced with the devil(oxy) for over a year. Been off since May 2011, and it's still in my head(hence the reason I lift myself to death). Thats why I backed the fuck off the Valium. If that withdrawal is worse than oxy, I dont want no part of it. Opiate withdrawal was and absolute nightmare. But I was able to do it on my own. I just got to where I couldn't even look at myself in the mirror. Thank god I never progressed to smoking or banging that shit.
Stay the hell away from oxies forever man. You will eventually completely forget about it! I had a bad couple years with that shit. I got out of it to. It was a misserable way to live. Very fun for the first few months and then it completely drained my bank account and ruined my life! Just stay away from it man! Smoke weed or something.
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What opiate Mak? I danced with the devil(oxy) for over a year. Been off since May 2011, and it's still in my head(hence the reason I lift myself to death). Thats why I backed the fuck off the Valium. If that withdrawal is worse than oxy, I dont want no part of it. Opiate withdrawal was and absolute nightmare. But I was able to do it on my own. I just got to where I couldn't even look at myself in the mirror. Thank god I never progressed to smoking or banging that shit.
was it oxycontin or oxycodone IR(instant release? and how much were you taking and for how long? that stuff is almost impossible to come off of depending on what dose you were taking unless you used suboxone.
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Its a slippery slope when you start taking pills to sleep, eventually you'll be in the mindset that you cannot sleep without them!
Trensomnia must suck though, have a wank? Read one of suckmymuscle's posts, I've woken up hours later on my keyboard from that boring twat.
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was it oxycontin or oxycodone IR(instant release? and how much were you taking and for how long? that stuff is almost impossible to come off of depending on what dose you were taking unless you used suboxone.
Any and every dose, just over a year. Depended on what I could get. IR/SR. At first percs(thats how it starts), then cracking SR 80's in half and taking both halves. It varied man. Compared to some I've talked to, my doses weren't shit. It was like subconsciously I was holding myself back from going all out. I got to a point I would of just done them forever. I loved taking it the second I woke up on an empty stomach. But overtime you gotta use more and more to achieve that awesome euphoric rush. But @ Mak. I'm done forever. I don't know about you but I've seen the end product with users. That was enough for me. Lesson learned. I quit on my own WW. It was a point of pride. Letting a narcotic own you=weakness.
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A lot of druggies in this thread. Jesus christ. Lol.
Anyways, try 5-HTP and / or Melatonin. Works for me, although I don't have sleep issues while on Tren. Only anxiety attacks. Oh, well. Tren effects us all differently.
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Another voice here for the melatonin. Works very well for me, and I sleep in the day because I work nights. Also, are you on GH? I couldn't sleep more than three or four hours at a time on 100mg eod of tren ace. On even just 4iu per day I started sleeping 6-7 hours.
200mg eod right now and 10iu gh ed and I sleep like a baby.
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Another voice here for the melatonin. Works very well for me, and I sleep in the day because I work nights. Also, are you on GH? I couldn't sleep more than three or four hours at a time on 100mg eod of tren ace. On even just 4iu per day I started sleeping 6-7 hours.
200mg eod right now and 10iu gh ed and I sleep like a baby.
Yeah, but it doesn't make me that sleepy. :(
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A lot of druggies in this thread. Jesus christ. Lol.
Anyways, try 5-HTP and / or Melatonin. Works for me, although I don't have sleep issues while on Tren. Only anxiety attacks. Oh, well. Tren effects us all differently.
That's why I like this site man. You get to hear guys like you tell with brutal honesty the evil that lurks out there. You could be an M.D. with every award on earth and still fall into this shit. Alot of former users of stupid shit yes, but we overcame and learned and now when you hear our horror stories you won't repeat our mistakes. If you met me now, you would have no idea about the crap I got myself into. I look inshape, well spoken, own my own house, all the normal things. On here I can be anonymous and tell the brutal truths of what I stupidly fell into. Sometimes these things make you stronger. I will end with this. Working out has literally saved my life. It lets you focus everything negative into something positive and sorta cleanses you.
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How much melatonin do you recommend?
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How much melatonin do you recommend?
Sometimes 3mg, sometimes 6mg. I think with melatonin its a case of more aint better? But def take it with 5-htp, valerian, benadryl for the knock out punch. If you try any of this let us know how it worked for you. I prefer my combo to benzos.
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I have found 6mg to be the sweet spot.
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that shit only worked for a short time for me I have to take unisom just to fall asleep on test keeps me asleep on tren too
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That's why I like this site man. You get to hear guys like you tell with brutal honesty the evil that lurks out there. You could be an M.D. with every award on earth and still fall into this shit. Alot of former users of stupid shit yes, but we overcame and learned and now when you hear our horror stories you won't repeat our mistakes. If you met me now, you would have no idea about the crap I got myself into. I look inshape, well spoken, own my own house, all the normal things. On here I can be anonymous and tell the brutal truths of what I stupidly fell into. Sometimes these things make you stronger. I will end with this. Working out has literally saved my life. It lets you focus everything negative into something positive and sorta cleanses you.
Good post. I have my own opinions regarding some things in your post, but, overall, very intelligent post. :-) Best of luck.
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Sometimes 3mg, sometimes 6mg. I think with melatonin its a case of more aint better? But def take it with 5-htp, valerian, benadryl for the knock out punch. If you try any of this let us know how it worked for you. I prefer my combo to benzos.
Amen ! 5 mg puts me out for the count. 10 mg keeps me up for hours. So, to reiterate, more is definitely NOT better when it comes to Mela.
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So this is why me, someone who usually sleeps a lot and has trouble waking up, am sleeping 5-6 hours top and am wide awake at early hours and even work out in the morning even though it's fucking Antarctica outside?
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So this is why me, someone who usually sleeps a lot and has trouble waking up, am sleeping 5-6 hours top and am wide awake at early hours and even work out in the morning even though it's fucking Antarctica outside?
How's the astral plane now that your on Tren ?
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try benedryl like someone else mentioned. antihistamines make me very tired. youcan also use 4-6mg melatonin on top of one or two benedryl tablets. I started a trensomnia thread in the steroid section months ago. It is even titled the same trensomnia.just go to the steroid forum and type in trensomnia in the search box and you should find it. It has some other suggestions. but really there is not much you can do! if you want the same non addicitive route you are looking at benedryl and some melatonin. If you want the more dangerouse route but sure to work you will have to use benzos like valium,klonopin or xanax wich all have very high potential for addiction. actually you are bound to get addicted but if you know how to use them correctly you can easily safely taper off of benzos. you just take a little less each night when you are done using your tren and edge down very slowly do not rapidly taper down do it slowly. It does not take much xanax to sleep just 2mg before bed should do the trick if it is legit xanax(alprazolam). and it would be simple to taper off just 2mg a night. another problem though is getting the xanax from a doctor! I would not order any ugl xanax only somexanax coming from a real pharmacy. but always try the non addictive route first.
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Any and every dose, just over a year. Depended on what I could get. IR/SR. At first percs(thats how it starts), then cracking SR 80's in half and taking both halves. It varied man. Compared to some I've talked to, my doses weren't shit. It was like subconsciously I was holding myself back from going all out. I got to a point I would of just done them forever. I loved taking it the second I woke up on an empty stomach. But overtime you gotta use more and more to achieve that awesome euphoric rush. But @ Mak. I'm done forever. I don't know about you but I've seen the end product with users. That was enough for me. Lesson learned. I quit on my own WW. It was a point of pride. Letting a narcotic own you=weakness.
I was taking 5-6 80mg oxycontin tabs a day! plus 6 mg alprazolam! But I had a legal prescription due to a bad car accident I was in. I still get prescribed 425 30mg roxicodone tabs a month(oxycodone instant release) same as oxycontin without the time release they work fast and hit hard. plus I am up to a huge amount of xanax I am precribed 360 1mg tabs a month. but I only take 10mg a day. still a huge amount! but I have been on them for 4 years and the oxys for close to 4 years. I tried to go cold turkey once and got extremely sick! I should of tapered off. but I was doing some bad things with them and needed to stop! I am on a pain contract so I get drug tested and also can get called in for a pill count. they are pretty strict when you are getting that amount of schedule 2 medication.
The only reason I stopped taking the 80's was because they changed the formula and I couldn't conv ert thm the way I like. so I switched to all 30mg instant release oxycodone. luckily I dont pay street prices! If that were the case I wouldn't take the at all. I have seen guys lose everything over oxycontin. seen them loose their nice cars,houses, and pawned everything worth of value they had! I would never get that hard up these are people using them to get high! I have a valid medical reason for both meds.
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I would recomend to up the intensity in the gym...do those last 3-4 reps when you think youīre gonna die...that makes sleep like baby even on tren...however trensomnia is real and I have it myself, lack of sleep and HORRIBLE nightmares and iīm just using 300 mg sustanon and 50 mg tren ed! i use valium 1-2 times a week and that takes away everything...however iīve been addicted to those pills before (alprazolam) and don+t want to go back there. Withdrawal lasted for 3 months! Even if you tapper down 2,5-5 mg (valium) a week those last 20 mg will be harsh, lotīs of panic attacks etc...being a benzo addict sucks so much I donīt have words on how lame it was...
Thinks to start with:
1.Melatonin
2.Valerian root (high dose pharma grade, 1g+). It works like a natural benzo without being addictive...However itīs maybe 5-10 times weaker. But a high dose def works.
3.Tramadol (non narcotic opiate/snri with fast onset) take 100-200 mg before bed. If you use more you will be more hyperactive. This should not be hard to get from a M.D
4.Zopiklon (very very good sleep medicine, benzo mimic but maybe 10 times less of the addicte properties.
5.Zolpidem (brother of the above medicine, faster onset, short halflife, abit more addicte than Zopiklon)
6.Nitrazepam (this is a benso and on of the most sold sleep meds in the world)
7.Flunitrazepam (the most addicte benso there is but it works wonders on very harsh insomnia)
8.Paxil (SSRI medicine. Effective for most psychiatric problems, but it will take a few weeks before you get adjusted)
The bensos I mentioned are designed for sleep. Xanax is not very sedative, mostly works for panic attacks. valium might be a choice. It very less addictive than all other bensos because it tapper it self down by it self...you get sedated about 1-1,5 h after ingestion, but it lasts in your system and have a mild anxiolytic effect for 48 h. If you take it every day the halflife builds up and might be in your system for a week.
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How much melatonin do you recommend?
depends from person to person. Usually more =/= better, and 10mg and up would actually worsen my insomnia.
for me 200mcg - 1gram is sweet spot but 3mg works too. With steroid induced insomnia melatonin can be useless though.
Here are my other solutions.
1. Frequent showers, sometimes one right before bedtime. Dont know how or why but I am pretty damn sure on roids, body sweat causes my system to release adrenaline or something. I would wake up after 3 hours of sleep and just roll around in my bed unable to fall back asleep. Taking another shower would usually help.
2. Megadose peptides before sleep. 500mcg ipamorelin should do the trick, most of the time.
3. Sleeping pills - 5-6 sleeping pills/benadryls
4. Wank it / fuck whores - self explanatory , dont forget to shower afterwards
5. Wash sheets, pillow covers every 2 days if not every day. Clen made it horrible for me,,I ended up buying several sets of sheets, pillow covers and mattress covers and just rotate them every day.
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I have found injecting as soon as I wake up allows me to get to sleep at night for 5-6 hours straight but after that it's hit and miss.
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dont sleep.
trenbolona will make you feel like the man anyway
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How the fuck do you guys deal with this? In the past two days I've had three hours of sleep. I can't sleep before 8 AM, just doesn't happen. I tried sleeping four hours ago, I just tossed and turned in bed for three hours before giving up on sleep... again... What do?
Don't say "I deal with trensomnia by not using tren". ;D
STH at 10 iu + and make sure it s humatrope from pharmacia
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I would recomend to up the intensity in the gym...do those last 3-4 reps when you think youīre gonna die...that makes sleep like baby even on tren...however trensomnia is real and I have it myself, lack of sleep and HORRIBLE nightmares and iīm just using 300 mg sustanon and 50 mg tren ed! i use valium 1-2 times a week and that takes away everything...however iīve been addicted to those pills before (alprazolam) and don+t want to go back there. Withdrawal lasted for 3 months! Even if you tapper down 2,5-5 mg (valium) a week those last 20 mg will be harsh, lotīs of panic attacks etc...being a benzo addict sucks so much I donīt have words on how lame it was...
Thinks to start with:
1.Melatonin
2.Valerian root (high dose pharma grade, 1g+). It works like a natural benzo without being addictive...However itīs maybe 5-10 times weaker. But a high dose def works.
3.Tramadol (non narcotic opiate/snri with fast onset) take 100-200 mg before bed. If you use more you will be more hyperactive. This should not be hard to get from a M.D
4.Zopiklon (very very good sleep medicine, benzo mimic but maybe 10 times less of the addicte properties.
5.Zolpidem (brother of the above medicine, faster onset, short halflife, abit more addicte than Zopiklon)
6.Nitrazepam (this is a benso and on of the most sold sleep meds in the world)
7.Flunitrazepam (the most addicte benso there is but it works wonders on very harsh insomnia)
8.Paxil (SSRI medicine. Effective for most psychiatric problems, but it will take a few weeks before you get adjusted)
The bensos I mentioned are designed for sleep. Xanax is not very sedative, mostly works for panic attacks. valium might be a choice. It very less addictive than all other bensos because it tapper it self down by it self...you get sedated about 1-1,5 h after ingestion, but it lasts in your system and have a mild anxiolytic effect for 48 h. If you take it every day the halflife builds up and might be in your system for a week.
I disagree. xanax lays you out! I have tried every benzo there is! ativan(lorazepam), valium, klonopin, and the xanax. it is prescribed for anxiety and panick attacks since xanax kicks in so fast. if you take 2 mg of xanax and chew it up you will feel want to crash! benzos are human tranquilizers but xanax(alprazolam) is by far the most potent benzo available in the usa. rohypnol is a stronger benzo for sleep but it is not available in the states anymore just in europe. xanax is the king of all benzos. if you have never tried xanax and chew up 2 mg's you will go to sleep! If you chew up more you will def pass out and might wake up not knowing what happened. I underestimated xanax and took way to much my first time and I woke up not knowing what happened! I took at least 3x2mg bars. way to much for a first timer. most first timers I have seen take 2mg and pass out.
2nd best are klonopins they work a tad bit slower but last in yoiur system alot longer and will def help you sleep. but these drugs are like the last thing you want to touch. they work great but are addictive. and they are not super easy to get prescribed. I had to go through ativan,klonopin and then finally they gave me xanax bu they wanted me to take UA's. and they gave me a 30 day supply and I could not refill them unless it had been 30 days. so you really have to follow the bottles instructions I could not take more than precribed otherwise i would run out and withdraw wich I never did. One time I ran a day short where I had like a half a tab. and that night my head was twicthing like I was about to have a seizure. I was up almost all night and I had oxycontin and somas. still couldnt sleep without benzos. I was at the pharmacy almost right when it opened.
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How the fuck do you guys deal with this? In the past two days I've had three hours of sleep. I can't sleep before 8 AM, just doesn't happen. I tried sleeping four hours ago, I just tossed and turned in bed for three hours before giving up on sleep... again... What do?
Don't say "I deal with trensomnia by not using tren". ;D
18 year old kids doing shots ::)
Fucking pathetic.
Did you ever hear of natural test & GH levels. If you can't get in good shape at you age without drugs, you might as well give up :-\
Did you steal out of mommies purse like Tay-tay :D
PT
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Swlabr, I had the same problem. After only getting 2 hours of sleep at the most for 2 solid months I got off of the tren. I cooked my own as well. I have a script for 10mg ambien but I rarely take them. I would take one 1x a week just to try and catch up on sleep but they didn't make a bit of difference. I feel for you, IT SUCKS!
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ghb, narcotics and morphine.
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Instead of hitting the gym two times a month,try training balls to the wall 5-6 days a week,you`ll be so tired since it`ll be something new for you, that you`ll sleep like a baby! ;)
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Instead of hitting the gym two times a month,try training balls to the wall 5-6 days a week,you`ll be so tired since it`ll be something new for you, that you`ll sleep like a baby! ;)
THIS ^^^^
I have never had the problem, train 3/4 times a week & cardio 6 days, I sleep like I am on GA.
PT
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Instead of hitting the gym two times a month,try training balls to the wall 5-6 days a week,you`ll be so tired since it`ll be something new for you, that you`ll sleep like a baby! ;)
:D
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GABA, Phenibut, and Kava Kava work wonders as well. GABA raises your natural GH levels too, which is always a plus. I'm using 0.25mg xanax myself, but that's because I'm having some serious family issues with my parents and their overall well being, so my anxiety is real bad right now. Things are getting worked out though, so I haven't needed it every night. I just use it a couple times a week now. I see myself being xanny free within the next couple weeks. I'm on 600/wk of tren and can sleep just fine granted I'm not worrying about anything.
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Thank you all for the tips, guys. I ordered some melatonin yesterday (well, last night at 6 AM LOL), hopefully that will work. If not, I'll try the other things you guys mentioned (except the xanax, valium et cetera, I'm NEVER going down that road).
18 year old kids doing shots ::)
Fucking pathetic.
Did you ever hear of natural test & GH levels. If you can't get in good shape at you age without drugs, you might as well give up :-\
Did you steal out of mommies purse like Tay-tay :D
PT
Lol. Hey, I know what I want, and I go for it. I'm like this in all aspects of my life, and I don't care what a little wankspot like yourself thinks of it. ;D
Swlabr, I had the same problem. After only getting 2 hours of sleep at the most for 2 solid months I got off of the tren. I cooked my own as well. I have a script for 10mg ambien but I rarely take them. I would take one 1x a week just to try and catch up on sleep but they didn't make a bit of difference. I feel for you, IT SUCKS!
Honestly, man, it does. I've missed so many lectures so far. Thankfully I can sit down and teach myself but it's just annoying as fuck waking up at 5 PM and basically having wasted a day, just makes me feel like a bum!
Instead of hitting the gym two times a month,try training balls to the wall 5-6 days a week,you`ll be so tired since it`ll be something new for you, that you`ll sleep like a baby! ;)
Lol, I went yesterday and the day before. Deadlifted 440x8 and incline dumbbell pressed 110x8. I do train hard, dammit. >:(
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I'm actually considering shooting 10 iu GH at once tonight, see if that knocks me out.
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A lot of druggies in this thread. Jesus christ. Lol.
Anyways, try 5-HTP and / or Melatonin. Works for me, although I don't have sleep issues while on Tren. Only anxiety attacks. Oh, well. Tren effects us all differently.
WW isn't a drug addict like he claims ::)