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I got a free cholesterol screening done, my cholesterol result was 285 points! Holy shit. Then I checked my blood pressure on the machine at Safeway I have hypertension. I was able to do cardio at an intense level for 60 mins easily now after a few minutes my body begins aching and it gets hard for me to breathe. Something's not right.
I'm only injecting close to 600 mg of tren ace and 900mg of EQ a week. What can I do get my heart in a better shape w/out quitting the hormonas? But if it's going to kill me so be it.
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go to the doc. get on some bp and cholesterol meds. do cardio regularly
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+ baby aspirin to thin the blood that eq will thicken.
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Tren will fuck your lipids up like no other, and obviously the EQ is causing the high BP
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I got a free cholesterol screening done, my cholesterol result was 285 points! Holy shit. Then I checked my blood pressure on the machine at Safeway I have hypertension. I was able to do cardio at an intense level for 60 mins easily now after a few minutes my body begins aching and it gets hard for me to breathe. Something's not right.
I'm only injecting close to 600 mg of tren ace and 900mg of EQ a week. What can I do get my heart in a better shape w/out quitting the hormonas? But if it's going to kill me so be it.
Both of those cause high blood pressure.
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Give up drugs and add running to your lifting routine. Get lean and forget all thoughts of posing in a speedo. Look thin and tight. Get a decent haircut and keep it cut fresh. Buy some decent clothes and focus on career. Watch the girls flock to you instead of making steroid jokes behind your back.
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sounds like youre a hyperresponder.
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I got a free cholesterol screening done, my cholesterol result was 285 points! Holy shit. Then I checked my blood pressure on the machine at Safeway I have hypertension. I was able to do cardio at an intense level for 60 mins easily now after a few minutes my body begins aching and it gets hard for me to breathe. Something's not right.
I'm only injecting close to 600 mg of tren ace and 900mg of EQ a week. What can I do get my heart in a better shape w/out quitting the hormonas? But if it's going to kill me so be it.
Cut tren to 300 EOD.......way too much IMO,unless contest prepping.
600 on the equipoise.
Stupidly high cycles recommended here on getbig just to walk around Wal - Mart with ILS.
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Thanks for the advice guys. I don't want to cut out the hormones. I'll try taking a cholesterol lowering med, niaspan, and mini asipirn. We'll see if that works.
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I worked in a pharmacy for years, and I will tell you that those free machines they have in safeway, cvs, etc, are NOT accurate AT ALL. The company who is supposed to calibrate them, NEVER does it. I had a reading of 155/94 and was like wtf!? This was on a cruise of 300/wk of just test. So I went to my doc worried as all hell, and he took my BP with a large cuff, because for us who train, regular cuffs are too small and will not give accurate readings, and it was perfect at 118/77. My suggestion, get yourself a doc visit and have him check your BP or go buy the old bulb and meter style kit with a large cuff, and do it yourself. As for your cholesterol, yea it's definitely high, but doesn't necessarily mean anything bad. It's the HDL and LDL that you need to see. I'd those are fucked, then you have a problem. Anyway, 1200mg red yeast rice, 81mg chewable aspirin, 3g omega-3(omega-3 ONLY, 3g fish oil and 3g omega-3 are 2 totally different things. 3g omega-3 is equal to 10 regular fish oil softgels.) also take 200mg COQ10, 1600mg plant phytosterols, 300mg grape seed extract, 1000mg niacin, and 500mg turmeric standardized extract for circumin. This with 20min cardio after every workout at about 4.5mph, should keep you healthy as can be without using medications. This is the exact protocol I'm using, and I'm on 600/wk tren, 900/wk EQ, and 750/wk test e. Just had blood taken a few days ago and everything is within the "normal" range. Everyone is different, so what works for me, may not work for you, but it will damn sure help.
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dmt lsd
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Also, tren causes you to breathe heavym it just does, so if you can't deal with that, then drop the tren. Same thing is happening to me right now too, no big deal.it happened when I was prepping for my last show as well. Heavy breathing, getting out of breath easy, being hot all the time, night sweats, etc, are all common sides of tren.
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laughed at the title
but stay safe friend
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Give up drugs and add running to your lifting routine. Get lean and forget all thoughts of posing in a speedo. Look thin and tight. Get a decent haircut and keep it cut fresh. Buy some decent clothes and focus on career. Watch the girls flock to you instead of making steroid jokes behind your back.
LOL
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now ive read as well of the rebound effect that occurs when you stop taking the baby aspirin, once you start is it best just to keep taking it?
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LOL
Brocty, let me tell you all the guys I knew that juiced in the late 70's and 80's look like shit now. They had to quit due to health, finances or for legal reasons. Many of them threw away pursuing careers because pursuing the syringe out of shady dealers in parking lots was their priority. On a rare occasion when I run into some of them and they say in effect that lifting without drugs is a waste of time. That is sad. I also think of those who have died in their 40's and 50's.
Go ahead and laugh at the advice of don't do drugs. Laugh at the advice of lifting as a life style for health and fitness. Laugh at don't throw away your life chasing a syringe so you can impress people that don't give a shit about you.
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Brocty, let me tell you all the guys I knew that juiced in the late 70's and 80's look like shit now. They had to quit due to health, finances or for legal reasons. Many of them threw away pursuing careers because pursuing the syringe out of shady dealers in parking lots was their priority. On a rare occasion when I run into some of them and they say in effect that lifting without drugs is a waste of time. That is sad. I also think of those who have died in their 40's and 50's.
Go ahead and laugh at the advice of don't do drugs. Laugh at the advice of lifting as a life style for health and fitness. Laugh at don't throw away your life chasing a syringe so you can impress people that don't give a shit about you.
good post
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If you used one of those sit down bp machines you slip your arm in they are inaccurate unless you are a twink. The maximum arm diameter listed for those is 12".
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Brocty, let me tell you all the guys I knew that juiced in the late 70's and 80's look like shit now. They had to quit due to health, finances or for legal reasons. Many of them threw away pursuing careers because pursuing the syringe out of shady dealers in parking lots was their priority. On a rare occasion when I run into some of them and they say in effect that lifting without drugs is a waste of time. That is sad. I also think of those who have died in their 40's and 50's.
Go ahead and laugh at the advice of don't do drugs. Laugh at the advice of lifting as a life style for health and fitness. Laugh at don't throw away your life chasing a syringe so you can impress people that don't give a shit about you.
Dont speak for everyone champ.
I'm pretty comfortable with who I am. And i'm pretty sure i'm not the only one who can say that here. I have a degree and a career. I will never try to make a living a bodybuilding, it's a passion. By no way does everyone live off the syringe. And I do feel bad for ones who workout to impress others. I do it for me, to blow off steam, to build my body, to work towards new goals.. And I am much more healthy then lazy cuntz who sit around all day, drinking beer and watching t.v
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Instead of aspirin, trying using cayenne pepper...Get the 90,000 heat unit stuff(Amazon) Also don't use blood pressure meds if you don't have to...Try using dark Chocolate 80% cacao and up at small amounts a day.
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now ive read as well of the rebound effect that occurs when you stop taking the baby aspirin, once you start is it best just to keep taking it?
if you take aspirin daily prepare to bleed out when you cut yourself with a paper or pop a zit.
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If you used one of those sit down bp machines you slip your arm in they are inaccurate unless you are a twink. The maximum arm diameter listed for those is 12".
If you can even get your arm in those machines you are a twink. I can't get mine in past the elbow.
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Fuck BP and Cholesterol meds dude, that shit will kill you lol
For one, the arm tests at places like those are ALWAYS inacurate, especially if you have large arms (were bodybuilders LOL)
Secondly, yeah, just do some cardio postworkout, and eat healthy, drink lots of water, and you'll be fine, I wouldn't worry about it
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I got a free cholesterol screening done, my cholesterol result was 285 points! Holy shit. Then I checked my blood pressure on the machine at Safeway I have hypertension. I was able to do cardio at an intense level for 60 mins easily now after a few minutes my body begins aching and it gets hard for me to breathe. Something's not right.
I'm only injecting close to 600 mg of tren ace and 900mg of EQ a week. What can I do get my heart in a better shape w/out quitting the hormonas? But if it's going to kill me so be it.
I wonder why you mad..youre a fucking pussy that handle a liitle bit of juice, youre pre-destined to be small ,weak and cripple for life which it sucks.. ...go kill yourself ..oh wait steroids already are...lol..
ps. I could give u tons of advises on now to fix that but I odnt feel like it for being the scum that u are.....BP the silent killa is gonna get you,son.. ;D
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I wonder why you mad..youre a fucking pussy that handle a liitle bit of juice, youre pre-destined to be small ,weak and cripple for life which it sucks.. ...go kill yourself ..oh wait steroids already are...lol
Man you're a fucken prick. Anyways get some cycle assist or something and mega dose it. Those compounds are known for the problems they're giving you. Equipose will give you higher blood pressure. Same with tren. Clean up your diet and do some cardio.
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Man you're a fucken prick. Anyways get some cycle assist or something and mega dose it. Those compounds are known for the problems they're giving you. Equipose will give you higher blood pressure. Same with tren. Clean up your diet and do some cardio.
your fat mother is a prick.. ;D.fuck ,thats what scum haters get..you, you have enough being impotent..reason why your girl left you..fags cant take a bit of their own medicine..lol..bitches
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your fat mother is a prick.. ;D.fuck ,thats what scum haters get..you, you have enough being impotent..reason why your girl left you..fags cant take a bit of their own medicine..lol..bitches
Shut up fag go back to Pm where you belong with all the other rat finks. Don't waste your breath trying to insult me. You think your the only one who looks good and gets pussy around here lmao!!
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Shut up fag go back to Pm where you belong with all the other rat finks. Don't waste your breath trying to insult me. You think your the only one who looks good and gets pussy around here lmao!!
of course Im not the only one...there are the groinks ,che's, muzzolinis etc but you , you dont, you fat, ugly, bald and impotent..youre fucked
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Thanks for the advice guys. I don't want to cut out the hormones. I'll try taking a cholesterol lowering med, niaspan, and mini asipirn. We'll see if that works.
Yes adding more drugs is key.
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of course Im not the only one...there are the groinks ,che's, muzzolinis etc but you , you dont, you fat, ugly, bald and impotent..youre fucked
Not what your slutty mom said last night! Your a short little juiced up spic. If I was on 10ius of gh and 3-4 other compound year round I'm sure I would be holding the same amount of size as you.
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Thanks for the advice guys. I don't want to cut out the hormones. I'll try taking a cholesterol lowering med, niaspan, and mini asipirn. We'll see if that works.
thats a horrible protocol..will make things worse
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I got a free cholesterol screening done, my cholesterol result was 285 points! Holy shit. Then I checked my blood pressure on the machine at Safeway I have hypertension. I was able to do cardio at an intense level for 60 mins easily now after a few minutes my body begins aching and it gets hard for me to breathe. Something's not right.
I'm only injecting close to 600 mg of tren ace and 900mg of EQ a week. What can I do get my heart in a better shape w/out quitting the hormonas? But if it's going to kill me so be it.
seriously man, its really easy. i dont care what gh15 says.
fish oil= 10 grams per day. take the coated ones so you dont burp that shit all day.
red yeast rice, not positive on dosage.
cut out whatever shit food you are eating. bare down and go fish and egg whites hard core.
cardio= 20 minutes a day with effort. not just putzing along.
i dropped cholesterol 40 points in 3 months doing this. dont fuck around man.
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. If I was on 10ius of gh and 3-4 other compound year round I'm sure I would be holding the same amount of size as you.
hahahhahahahahahahahahaa ....yeah , and if i take what Ronnie takes I'd Mr O 8 times..keep dreaming ,fatty.
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Thanks guys there's lot of good advice here. I already bleed a lot so you're right aspirin might not be as good as cayanne pepper. Oldtimer I can't go back now, it's my lifestyle. I have been taking clenbuterol and t3 daily too. It's not helping. I think I'll cut out the clen. JuicyJay great advice, I already take some of that stuff but I'll definately add more omega 3 and begin taking the phytosterols. I don't want to take any meds. Slin you suck man. I'm not small. I'm 230 lbs at around 13-16% bf at 6'00". One of my problems is I can put on weight quickly so I do have to do cardio all the time. Makaveli that's a good idea too about getting cycle assist. I can always count on Getbiggers to give me good advice.
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I worked in a pharmacy for years, and I will tell you that those free machines they have in safeway, cvs, etc, are NOT accurate AT ALL. The company who is supposed to calibrate them, NEVER does it. I had a reading of 155/94 and was like wtf!? This was on a cruise of 300/wk of just test. So I went to my doc worried as all hell, and he took my BP with a large cuff, because for us who train, regular cuffs are too small and will not give accurate readings, and it was perfect at 118/77. My suggestion, get yourself a doc visit and have him check your BP or go buy the old bulb and meter style kit with a large cuff, and do it yourself. As for your cholesterol, yea it's definitely high, but doesn't necessarily mean anything bad. It's the HDL and LDL that you need to see. I'd those are fucked, then you have a problem. Anyway, 1200mg red yeast rice, 81mg chewable aspirin, 3g omega-3(omega-3 ONLY, 3g fish oil and 3g omega-3 are 2 totally different things. 3g omega-3 is equal to 10 regular fish oil softgels.) also take 200mg COQ10, 1600mg plant phytosterols, 300mg grape seed extract, 1000mg niacin, and 500mg turmeric standardized extract for circumin. This with 20min cardio after every workout at about 4.5mph, should keep you healthy as can be without using medications. This is the exact protocol I'm using, and I'm on 600/wk tren, 900/wk EQ, and 750/wk test e. Just had blood taken a few days ago and everything is within the "normal" range. Everyone is different, so what works for me, may not work for you, but it will damn sure help.
this too^^
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Thanks guys there's lot of good advice here. I already bleed a lot so you're right aspirin might not be as good as cayanne pepper. Oldtimer I can't go back now, it's my lifestyle. I have been taking clenbuterol and t3 daily too. It's not helping. I think I'll cut out the clen. JuicyJay great advice, I already take some of that stuff but I'll definately add more omega 3 and begin taking the phytosterols. I don't want to take any meds. Slin you suck man. I'm not small. I'm 230 lbs at around 13-16% bf at 6'00". One of my problems is I can put on weight quickly so I do have to do cardio all the time. Makaveli that's a good idea too about getting cycle assist. I can always count on Getbiggers to give me good advice.
i can only hope you can make it to 2013..BP and heart issues are to be taken veryyy seriously..#1 cause of why we have soo many dead bodybuilders
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lol look at how slin talks to mak after mak said slin used to post on other forums that his height is 5'8
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lol look at how slin talks to mak after mak said slin used to post on other forums that his height is 5'8
lol..look at you getting owned up and down in my thread with facts..
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lol look at how slin talks to mak after mak said slin used to post on other forums that his height is 5'8
Women don't like short men bro. They would rather be with someone who's 6'0 210 pounds with a good physique Jason stathem type then a roided up midget. Slinfag thanks god everyday for his lift shoes.
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Women don't like short men bro. They would rather be with someone who's 6'0 210 pounds with a good physique Jason stathem type then a roided up midget. Slinfag thanks god everyday for his lift shoes.
lol..where are your pics and women at?/ Mr, Limpy
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lol..where are your pics and women at?/ Mr, Limpy
I've prob put up more pics of myself then just about everyone on this board!!! And I've never had any problems with the ladies. Ya I broke up with my gf. Doesn't that happen to everyone at some point if they don't want to marry them. Douche bagge lol!!
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Brocty, let me tell you all the guys I knew that juiced in the late 70's and 80's look like shit now. They had to quit due to health, finances or for legal reasons. Many of them threw away pursuing careers because pursuing the syringe out of shady dealers in parking lots was their priority. On a rare occasion when I run into some of them and they say in effect that lifting without drugs is a waste of time. That is sad. I also think of those who have died in their 40's and 50's.
Go ahead and laugh at the advice of don't do drugs. Laugh at the advice of lifting as a life style for health and fitness. Laugh at don't throw away your life chasing a syringe so you can impress people that don't give a shit about you.
im the same way here, who gives a fuck what others think. I think anyone who uses gear understands theyre risks just like with anything, drinking, tobacco, fast food, diet pop etc... theres many things that can kill you so who gives a fuck? I understand your post but let one do to themselves as please and no more posts to try and change ones life, only worry about yoursekf, pretty simple! i have a career, wife, and life outside the mighty SYRINGE but still i like to juice and train, ya I compete but only for fun.
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sounds like youre a hyperresponder.
61165 stupid posts and counting
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im the same way here, who gives a fuck what others think. I think anyone who uses gear understands theyre risks just like with anything, drinking, tobacco, fast food, diet pop etc... theres many things that can kill you so who gives a fuck? I understand your post but let one do to themselves as please and no more posts to try and change ones life, only worry about yoursekf, pretty simple! i have a career, wife, and life outside the mighty SYRINGE but still i like to juice and train, ya I compete but only for fun.
Good post. I want to use on and off until I'm older and really settled down. Then hrt will be fine.
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im not saying being short sucks, im saying liars suck
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same here, I can care less if someone at the gym looks at me or what, they can talk all the crap they want about me but why would I care?? I train for me and thats it, I love the feeling and will use off and on like you said for long as I can. HRt for the older years of my life to keep me active and someone looking good lol i dont like any "old fella" is suppose to have a eye catching physique, age catches up with everyone at some point, natural or not lol
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I've prob put up more pics of myself then just about everyone on this board!!! And I've never had any problems with the ladies. Ya I broke up with my gf. Doesn't that happen to everyone at some point if they don't want to marry them. Douche bagge lol!!
She left your chubby ass cuz you cant get it up ,fatty..fess up...there is always viagra ,you know
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im short and I dont care lol its funny cause when I was into partying more, there was a girl outside of a bar we were in line for and she came up to me and was "whoa youre short" haha (Im 5'5) but just laughed and took her home hahah
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Height is NUMERO UNO to women and always will be, from an evolutionary perspective and I'll explain why. Taller men are superior because it signals healthy genes and a stronger more efficient immune system , muscle hypertrophy that you get with weight training and anabolic steroids is an unnatural process.
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Height is NUMERO UNO to women and always will be, from an evolutionary perspective and I'll explain why. Taller men are superior because it signals healthy genes and a stronger more efficient immune system , muscle hypertrophy that you get with weight training and anabolic steroids is an unnatural process.
what about hairloss? genetic flaw
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seriously man, its really easy. i dont care what gh15 says.
fish oil= 10 grams per day. take the coated ones so you dont burp that shit all day.
red yeast rice, not positive on dosage.
cut out whatever shit food you are eating. bare down and go fish and egg whites hard core.
cardio= 20 minutes a day with effort. not just putzing along.
i dropped cholesterol 40 points in 3 months doing this. dont fuck around man.
Good post.
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Height is NUMERO UNO to women and always will be, from an evolutionary perspective and I'll explain why. Taller men are superior because it signals healthy genes and a stronger more efficient immune system , muscle hypertrophy that you get with weight training and anabolic steroids is an unnatural process.
im married so no need to ever worry about that :) and youre right, it does all that but its also how you carry yourself. Im by no means self conscious about height, body image, I do it for me. height god gave me this so you lvie with it but maybe once or twice had problem with height with the ladies. more time than none it was never an issue
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im married so no need to ever worry about that :) and youre right, it does all that but its also how you carry yourself. Im by no means self conscious about height, body image, I do it for me. height god gave me this so you lvie with it but maybe once or twice had problem with height with the ladies. more time than none it was never an issue
oh I know bro I'm not 6'3 myself either ...although it would be nice. :D
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If you can even get your arm in those machines you are a twink. I can't get mine in past the elbow.
same here
i was bout to say the same
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6 foot master race here, feels good man. 8)
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your fat mother is a prick.. ;D.fuck ,thats what scum haters get..you, you have enough being impotent..reason why your girl left you..fags cant take a bit of their own medicine..lol..bitches
This
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6 foot master race here, feels good man. 8)
I'm same..it's a good height but not alpha. diesel is 6'2 up....... >:(
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I'm same..it's a good height but not alpha. diesel is 6'2 up....... >:(
True, I'd love to be 6'3", 260 - 265 lbs lean with good proportions.
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i would love to be that tall :) woulding argue with that lol
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I laugh at these fools who complain about their health and gear almost as if someone is "forcing them to do it". ::) bunch of fucking pansies, you have 22 year old guys complaining about blood pressure problems from steroids ::)....well if that's the case buddy you should hang it up and stick to low dosed cycles your not made for this game and you will end up hurting yourself the moment you push the envelope.great response to drugs is dandy but it's not as important as your ability to handle large amounts of drugs without getting sick..
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only the strong survive....
Jay cutler= good genetics
dennis newman= shit genetics
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I laugh at these fools who complain about their health and gear almost as if someone is "forcing them to do it". ::) bunch of fucking pansies, you have 22 year old guys complaining about blood pressure problems from steroids ::)....well if that's the case buddy you should hang it up and stick to low dosed cycles your not made for this game and you will end up hurting yourself the moment you push the envelope.great response to drugs is dandy but it's not as important as your ability to handle large amounts of drugs without getting sick..
x2, that's a replication of part of the bible.. = good pupil ;)
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I laugh at these fools who complain about their health and gear almost as if someone is "forcing them to do it". ::) bunch of fucking pansies, you have 22 year old guys complaining about blood pressure problems from steroids ::)....well if that's the case buddy you should hang it up and stick to low dosed cycles your not made for this game and you will end up hurting yourself the moment you push the envelope.great response to drugs is dandy but it's not as important as your ability to handle large amounts of drugs without getting sick..
You talkin' to me punk? I'm not a 22 yr old. I had been working out for 12 years before I ever tried prohormones, then after 3 years of that did I start using tren ace. I started working out when I was 15 because I was a fat ass. Do the math smart guy and figure out my age.
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Up the dosage!
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You talkin' to me punk? I'm not a 22 yr old. I had been working out for 12 years before I ever tried prohormones, then after 3 years of that did I start using tren ace. I started working out when I was 15 because I was a fat ass. Do the math smart guy and figure out my age.
^^^^ dead man posting
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Give up drugs and add running to your lifting routine. Get lean and forget all thoughts of posing in a speedo. Look thin and tight. Get a decent haircut and keep it cut fresh. Buy some decent clothes and focus on career. Watch the girls flock to you instead of making steroid jokes behind your back.
Amen.
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Amen.
lean is the "in" thing right now.....nobody cares about being huge these days. lots of former bodybuilders are slimming down to the fitness model look, why I have no idea....but it is happening and you see alot less huge guys walking around.
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lean is the "in" thing right now.....nobody cares about being huge these days. lots of former bodybuilders are slimming down to the fitness model look, why I have no idea....but it is happening and you see alot less huge guys walking around.
lots of former bodybuilders have no choice.
and lean and in shape has always been in.
Lift 3 days per week, do some running and other types of cardiovascular activities.
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I worked in a pharmacy for years, and I will tell you that those free machines they have in safeway, cvs, etc, are NOT accurate AT ALL. The company who is supposed to calibrate them, NEVER does it. I had a reading of 155/94 and was like wtf!? This was on a cruise of 300/wk of just test. So I went to my doc worried as all hell, and he took my BP with a large cuff, because for us who train, regular cuffs are too small and will not give accurate readings, and it was perfect at 118/77. My suggestion, get yourself a doc visit and have him check your BP or go buy the old bulb and meter style kit with a large cuff, and do it yourself. As for your cholesterol, yea it's definitely high, but doesn't necessarily mean anything bad. It's the HDL and LDL that you need to see. I'd those are fucked, then you have a problem. Anyway, 1200mg red yeast rice, 81mg chewable aspirin, 3g omega-3(omega-3 ONLY, 3g fish oil and 3g omega-3 are 2 totally different things. 3g omega-3 is equal to 10 regular fish oil softgels.) also take 200mg COQ10, 1600mg plant phytosterols, 300mg grape seed extract, 1000mg niacin, and 500mg turmeric standardized extract for circumin. This with 20min cardio after every workout at about 4.5mph, should keep you healthy as can be without using medications. This is the exact protocol I'm using, and I'm on 600/wk tren, 900/wk EQ, and 750/wk test e. Just had blood taken a few days ago and everything is within the "normal" range. Everyone is different, so what works for me, may not work for you, but it will damn sure help.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mn/mol.htm (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mn/mol.htm)
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lisinopril keeps my BP normal when on tren. Drop tren or EQ, or at least the doses
Been on it for six months now.
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Been on it for six months now.
How's that working for you?
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How's that working for you?
Works good, Doc only has me on 20mg a day with 20mg of Lipitor. Was off for a while but put me back on. The Lipitor even at that low of a dose really makes my joints ache so I have to lighten the loads.
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Height is NUMERO UNO to women and always will be, from an evolutionary perspective and I'll explain why. Taller men are superior because it signals healthy genes and a stronger more efficient immune system , muscle hypertrophy that you get with weight training and anabolic steroids is an unnatural process.
Maybe #2, $$$ is always number one for most women.
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BP changes with every minute of every day.
The monitors at your local pharmacy have sleeves that are meant for old ladies. My arms are 17" cold and I can't fit into the sleeve.
Ask the pharmacist, if the sleeve is too tight, you will NOT get an accurate reading.
Your doc is the best bet. Nobody should be running gear w/o supervision.
Some people say "be honest with your doctor about everything" ~ well, if you decide to do that, make sure he doesn't put anything in his records because there are situations that may arise later in life where all of your medical records might possibly be subpoenaed...
He doesn't have to write everything down to help you stay alive.
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thats even a rough one by getbig standards lol people wishing others to die and impotence lol Them are prolly 2 of the worst steroids for lipids but just because u have high cholesetrol doesn't mean your going to die. If i was you I would come of or go on a cruise test or anavar or something low dose and get that lipid and bp lower then change your choice of steroids.
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now ive read as well of the rebound effect that occurs when you stop taking the baby aspirin, once you start is it best just to keep taking it?
this is just a myth. it doesn't actually thin the blood anyway, nothing does. it just makes your platelets not so "sticky." when you stop taking it, naturally your platlets will be more sticky than they were while you were on it, and clotting is more likely to occur, but there is no rebound effect.
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http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mn/mol.htm (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mn/mol.htm)
those products have synergy, yes, but the dosages and forms are not effective in the least. the lipid stable for example...policosanol has a small percentage of lovastatin in it, 10mg yields not much at all, you need about 40mg of policoanol to get anything from it, 60mg is better. the niacin isn't nicotinate acid either, meaning it too doesn't do much of anything. you NEED the regular niacin WITH the flush side effect, no flush = no benefit because it's NOT niacin, it's an analogue that doesn't work and this has been proven in numerous studies. their products are OK at best, something suitable for maybe an epistane only 4 week cycle, but far from great for tren, test, etc, in even moderate dosages.
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tamoxifen also lowers LDL, just thought i'd throw that out there too...also, anyone using arimidex, it lowers your HDL, so i'd use a different AI if you're using adex.
"Tamoxifen — The anti-estrogen tamoxifen appears to lower total and LDL-cholesterol (12 and 19 percent, respectively, in one report) without changing HDL-cholesterol. There are conflicting data as to whether tamoxifen does or does not raise serum triglycerides."
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NICOTINIC ACID — Nicotinic acid is available in several formulations that include immediate-release (crystalline) and sustained release formulations such as Niacor® and Niaspan®. Nicotinic acid and nicotinamide are the two common forms of the vitamin most often referred to as niacin. (See "Overview of water-soluble vitamins", section on vitamin B3.) Nicotinic acid has a variety of effects on lipid metabolism (show figure 2):
It inhibits the hepatic production of VLDL and consequently its metabolite LDL [8].
It raises HDL levels by as much as 30 to 35 percent, both by reducing lipid transfer of cholesterol from HDL to VLDL and by delaying HDL clearance [8,9].
Another favorable property of nicotinic acid is a reduction in plasma fibrinogen levels [10].
Preparations — The content of over-the-counter (OTC) preparations of niacin are not federally regulated in the US [11]. OTC preparations that are marketed as causing "no flush" may have no free nicotinic acid and are ineffective in treating dyslipidemia, while some formulations of sustained-release OTC niacin have been associated with an increased risk of hepatotoxicity (see below); Slo-Niacin and perhaps Enduracin appear to be relatively safe. The sustained-release prescription brand Niaspan appears to be safe and effective although it is more expensive. OTC immediate-release niacin preparations are inexpensive, contain a full amount of free nicotinic acid, and are safer than most sustained-release preparations.
Uses — Nicotinic acid is effective in patients with hypercholesterolemia and in combined hyperlipidemia associated with normal and low levels of HDL cholesterol (hypoalphalipoproteinemia) [8,9,12]. The HDL raising properties of nicotinic acid occur with dosages as low as 1 to 1.5 g/day [12]. In contrast, the VLDL and LDL lowering effects are typically seen with higher doses (3 g/day) [8,9]. In one study, for example, nicotinic acid in a dose of 500 mg TID raised HDL cholesterol by 20 percent but reduced LDL cholesterol by only 5 percent. In comparison, a higher dose of 1.5 g TID produced more prominent changes of 33 percent (HDL elevation) and 23 percent (LDL reduction). At higher doses, nicotinic acid can also lower lipoprotein (a) levels by as much as 35 percent [9].
Additional LDL lowering can be attained by the addition of a bile acid sequestrant and/or HMG CoA reductase inhibitor (statin). In one study of 269 patients, the reduction of total and LDL cholesterol with sustained release niacin was 11 and 18 percent, respectively, compared with 23 and 32 percent, respectively, in those taking a combination of niacin and a statin [13]. A combination tablet with extended release niacin and lovastatin is now available and may help with compliance in patients who are already on a stable dose of both drugs [14].
Therapy with crystalline nicotinic acid is initiated at 100 mg three times daily and gradually increased to the targeted dosage as tolerated [12]. Pretreatment with aspirin 30 minutes prior to dosing can minimize flushing and other prostaglandin-mediated side effects noted below. This adverse reaction often diminishes in seven to 10 days. Nicotinic acid is better tolerated when ingested with food, which minimizes gastrointestinal side effects.
Niaspan® is a controlled release formulation of nicotinic acid that is administered once daily. Niaspan® is initiated at a dose of 500 mg nightly for one month and the dosage is titrated to 1000 mg. The standard dosage of Niaspan® is 1 to 2 grams nightly. It is advised that the medication be given with a night-time snack, but our experience suggests improved tolerability with dosing after the evening meal.
Side effects — The use of nicotinic acid is often limited by poor tolerability. At standard doses (1.5 to 4.5 g/day), flushing occurs in 80 percent of patients taking the crystalline preparation, and pruritus, paresthesias, and nausea each occur in about 20 percent [9].
Flushing appears to be less common with controlled release Niaspan®. In one study of 269 patients receiving a median dose of 2000 mg/day for 48 weeks, 4.8 percent discontinued the drug because of flushing [13]. In another report in which both formulations were given in a dose of 1500 mg/day for four months, Niaspan® was accompanied by fewer flushing episodes per month (1.9 versus 8.6) [15].
Elevations in hepatocellular enzymes are also common with nicotinic acid and may lead to severe hepatotoxicity, jaundice, and fulminant hepatitis. The onset of hepatocellular injury is not predictable; therefore regular monitoring of biochemical studies is mandatory. Crystalline niacin is preferred to most sustained-release preparations, since the former is associated with a greater hypolipidemic effect and seemingly less hepatotoxicity (show figure 3) [12,16]. An exception may be extended release Niaspan®, which has been found to minimally raise transaminases in clinical trials, but not cause significant hepatotoxicity [17].
Other important problems with nicotinic acid include [12]:
Nicotinic acid causes insulin resistance. As a result, hyperglycemia may develop in susceptible patients and the glycemic state may be worsened in those already being treated for overt diabetes mellitus [18]. This effect appears to be greatest with some extended release preparations, and minimized with crystalline niacin and perhaps Niaspan®. (See "Treatment of dyslipidemia in diabetes mellitus").
Nicotinic acid can induce hyperuricemia and precipitate acute gouty arthritis; it should therefore be avoided in any patient with a history of gout.
Nicotinic acid can produce hypotension in subjects treated with vasodilators, and can exacerbate unstable angina pectoris [19].
Nicotinic acid causes a dose-dependent elevation in plasma homocysteine levels that may negate its favorable effects on the lipid profile in certain subsets of patients [20]. Thus, after nicotinic acid is titrated to a stable maintenance dose, homocysteine levels should be measured. While many investigators would recommend therapy when homocysteine levels exceed 15 µmol/L, the efficacy of this approach remains uncertain and clinical trials are now ongoing to address this issue. (See "Overview of homocysteine").
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those products have synergy, yes, but the dosages and forms are not effective in the least. the lipid stable for example...policosanol has a small percentage of lovastatin in it, 10mg yields not much at all, you need about 40mg of policoanol to get anything from it, 60mg is better. the niacin isn't nicotinate acid either, meaning it too doesn't do much of anything. you NEED the regular niacin WITH the flush side effect, no flush = no benefit because it's NOT niacin, it's an analogue that doesn't work and this has been proven in numerous studies. their products are OK at best, something suitable for maybe an epistane only 4 week cycle, but far from great for tren, test, etc, in even moderate dosages.
Which is really strange when William Llewellyn reccomends everything you have said to :-\ he also says to use nolva
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I worked in a pharmacy for years, and I will tell you that those free machines they have in safeway, cvs, etc, are NOT accurate AT ALL. The company who is supposed to calibrate them, NEVER does it. I had a reading of 155/94 and was like wtf!? This was on a cruise of 300/wk of just test. So I went to my doc worried as all hell, and he took my BP with a large cuff, because for us who train, regular cuffs are too small and will not give accurate readings, and it was perfect at 118/77. My suggestion, get yourself a doc visit and have him check your BP or go buy the old bulb and meter style kit with a large cuff, and do it yourself. As for your cholesterol, yea it's definitely high, but doesn't necessarily mean anything bad. It's the HDL and LDL that you need to see. I'd those are fucked, then you have a problem. Anyway, 1200mg red yeast rice, 81mg chewable aspirin, 3g omega-3(omega-3 ONLY, 3g fish oil and 3g omega-3 are 2 totally different things. 3g omega-3 is equal to 10 regular fish oil softgels.) also take 200mg COQ10, 1600mg plant phytosterols, 300mg grape seed extract, 1000mg niacin, and 500mg turmeric standardized extract for circumin. This with 20min cardio after every workout at about 4.5mph, should keep you healthy as can be without using medications. This is the exact protocol I'm using, and I'm on 600/wk tren, 900/wk EQ, and 750/wk test e. Just had blood taken a few days ago and everything is within the "normal" range. Everyone is different, so what works for me, may not work for you, but it will damn sure help.
I would rather take time off than take all the above...
But def some good advices tho
how long are you on your this cycle?
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tribulus and saw palmetto.
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Which is really strange when William Llewellyn reccomends everything you have said to :-\ he also says to use nolva
That's because it works lol
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I would rather take time off than take all the above...
But def some good advices tho
how long are you on your this cycle?
Well of course you should take time off, I'm only using these things because I'm currently "blasting." I blast for 3 months then cruise for 2 months, then repeat. I do take baby aspirin, fish oil, and niacin year round, but only use this more aggressive protocol when I'm using higher doses and multiple compounds. I have been on this cycle for 65 days so far.
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Well of course you should take time off, I'm only using these things because I'm currently "blasting." I blast for 3 months then cruise for 2 months, then repeat. I do take baby aspirin, fish oil, and niacin year round, but only use this more aggressive protocol when I'm using higher doses and multiple compounds. I have been on this cycle for 65 days so far.
whats your typical blast and cruise cycles looks like?
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how bad can adex be for your cholesterol? Ive been on it long time now, I need something or ill gyno flare up really bad. what else do you recommend?
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how bad can adex be for your cholesterol? Ive been on it long time now, I need something or ill gyno flare up really bad. what else do you recommend?
look up for DIM ..natty sup..thanks me later
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look up for DIM ..natty sup..thanks me later
no speak engles?
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look up for DIM ..natty sup..thanks me later
will do, thanks!
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no speak engles?
;D si spiko
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my cholesterol is all kinds of fucked up. it was bad when i was a natural and it got worse on gear. for me it's genetic and i just don't care, nothing i can do about it except stay on lipitor year round to get perfect cholesterol ratings but then still have heart disease because that shit doesn't do anything
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of course Im not the only one...there are the groinks ,che's, muzzolinis etc but you , you dont, you fat, ugly, bald and impotent..youre fucked
bitch I get more pussy than all of you combined!
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I got a free cholesterol screening done, my cholesterol result was 285 points! Holy shit. Then I checked my blood pressure on the machine at Safeway I have hypertension. I was able to do cardio at an intense level for 60 mins easily now after a few minutes my body begins aching and it gets hard for me to breathe. Something's not right.
I'm only injecting close to 600 mg of tren ace and 900mg of EQ a week. What can I do get my heart in a better shape w/out quitting the hormonas? But if it's going to kill me so be it.
Why are you taking this shit? 99% of women find big muscles gross, and only a retard would lose their life over this. If I were to kill myself with drugs, it would be with crack and heroine. At least they are fun and don't make your dick go limp. Why would anyone take something that makes you bald, with an oily complexion full of acne, artherosclerotic and nephralgic? Why? Oh, why?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I Don't Like The Drugs (But The Drugs Like Me)"
Norm life baby "we're white and oh so hetero and our sex is missionary."
Norm life baby "we're quitters and we're sober our confessions will be televised."
You and I are underdosed and we're ready to fall
Raised to be stupid, taught to be nothing at all
I don't like the drugs but the drugs like me
I don't like the drugs, the drugs, the drugs
Norm life baby "our god is white and unforgiving we're piss tested and we're praying."
Norm life baby "I'm just a sample of a soul made to look just like a human being."
Norm life baby "we're rehabbed and we're ready for our 15 minutes of shame."
Norm life baby "we're talkshown and we're poiting just like christians at a suicide."
You and I are underdosed and we're ready to fall
Raised to be stupid, taught to be nothing at all
I don't like the drugs but the drugs like me
I don't like the drugs, the drugs, the drugs
There's a hole in our soul, that we fill with dope. And we're feeling fine.
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Have you seen my Dick?
Man this thing is huge
Do you have John Holmes surpassed?
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bitch I get more pussy than all of you combined!
this^^^, forgot about u ,son..sorry ;D
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NICOTINIC ACID — Nicotinic acid is available in several formulations that include immediate-release (crystalline) and sustained release formulations such as Niacor® and Niaspan®. Nicotinic acid and nicotinamide are the two common forms of the vitamin most often referred to as niacin. (See "Overview of water-soluble vitamins", section on vitamin B3.) Nicotinic acid has a variety of effects on lipid metabolism (show figure 2):
It inhibits the hepatic production of VLDL and consequently its metabolite LDL [8].
It raises HDL levels by as much as 30 to 35 percent, both by reducing lipid transfer of cholesterol from HDL to VLDL and by delaying HDL clearance [8,9].
Another favorable property of nicotinic acid is a reduction in plasma fibrinogen levels [10].
Preparations — The content of over-the-counter (OTC) preparations of niacin are not federally regulated in the US [11]. OTC preparations that are marketed as causing "no flush" may have no free nicotinic acid and are ineffective in treating dyslipidemia, while some formulations of sustained-release OTC niacin have been associated with an increased risk of hepatotoxicity (see below); Slo-Niacin and perhaps Enduracin appear to be relatively safe. The sustained-release prescription brand Niaspan appears to be safe and effective although it is more expensive. OTC immediate-release niacin preparations are inexpensive, contain a full amount of free nicotinic acid, and are safer than most sustained-release preparations.
Uses — Nicotinic acid is effective in patients with hypercholesterolemia and in combined hyperlipidemia associated with normal and low levels of HDL cholesterol (hypoalphalipoproteinemia) [8,9,12]. The HDL raising properties of nicotinic acid occur with dosages as low as 1 to 1.5 g/day [12]. In contrast, the VLDL and LDL lowering effects are typically seen with higher doses (3 g/day) [8,9]. In one study, for example, nicotinic acid in a dose of 500 mg TID raised HDL cholesterol by 20 percent but reduced LDL cholesterol by only 5 percent. In comparison, a higher dose of 1.5 g TID produced more prominent changes of 33 percent (HDL elevation) and 23 percent (LDL reduction). At higher doses, nicotinic acid can also lower lipoprotein (a) levels by as much as 35 percent [9].
Additional LDL lowering can be attained by the addition of a bile acid sequestrant and/or HMG CoA reductase inhibitor (statin). In one study of 269 patients, the reduction of total and LDL cholesterol with sustained release niacin was 11 and 18 percent, respectively, compared with 23 and 32 percent, respectively, in those taking a combination of niacin and a statin [13]. A combination tablet with extended release niacin and lovastatin is now available and may help with compliance in patients who are already on a stable dose of both drugs [14].
Therapy with crystalline nicotinic acid is initiated at 100 mg three times daily and gradually increased to the targeted dosage as tolerated [12]. Pretreatment with aspirin 30 minutes prior to dosing can minimize flushing and other prostaglandin-mediated side effects noted below. This adverse reaction often diminishes in seven to 10 days. Nicotinic acid is better tolerated when ingested with food, which minimizes gastrointestinal side effects.
Niaspan® is a controlled release formulation of nicotinic acid that is administered once daily. Niaspan® is initiated at a dose of 500 mg nightly for one month and the dosage is titrated to 1000 mg. The standard dosage of Niaspan® is 1 to 2 grams nightly. It is advised that the medication be given with a night-time snack, but our experience suggests improved tolerability with dosing after the evening meal.
Side effects — The use of nicotinic acid is often limited by poor tolerability. At standard doses (1.5 to 4.5 g/day), flushing occurs in 80 percent of patients taking the crystalline preparation, and pruritus, paresthesias, and nausea each occur in about 20 percent [9].
Flushing appears to be less common with controlled release Niaspan®. In one study of 269 patients receiving a median dose of 2000 mg/day for 48 weeks, 4.8 percent discontinued the drug because of flushing [13]. In another report in which both formulations were given in a dose of 1500 mg/day for four months, Niaspan® was accompanied by fewer flushing episodes per month (1.9 versus 8.6) [15].
Elevations in hepatocellular enzymes are also common with nicotinic acid and may lead to severe hepatotoxicity, jaundice, and fulminant hepatitis. The onset of hepatocellular injury is not predictable; therefore regular monitoring of biochemical studies is mandatory. Crystalline niacin is preferred to most sustained-release preparations, since the former is associated with a greater hypolipidemic effect and seemingly less hepatotoxicity (show figure 3) [12,16]. An exception may be extended release Niaspan®, which has been found to minimally raise transaminases in clinical trials, but not cause significant hepatotoxicity [17].
Other important problems with nicotinic acid include [12]:
Nicotinic acid causes insulin resistance. As a result, hyperglycemia may develop in susceptible patients and the glycemic state may be worsened in those already being treated for overt diabetes mellitus [18]. This effect appears to be greatest with some extended release preparations, and minimized with crystalline niacin and perhaps Niaspan®. (See "Treatment of dyslipidemia in diabetes mellitus").
Nicotinic acid can induce hyperuricemia and precipitate acute gouty arthritis; it should therefore be avoided in any patient with a history of gout.
Nicotinic acid can produce hypotension in subjects treated with vasodilators, and can exacerbate unstable angina pectoris [19].
Nicotinic acid causes a dose-dependent elevation in plasma homocysteine levels that may negate its favorable effects on the lipid profile in certain subsets of patients [20]. Thus, after nicotinic acid is titrated to a stable maintenance dose, homocysteine levels should be measured. While many investigators would recommend therapy when homocysteine levels exceed 15 µmol/L, the efficacy of this approach remains uncertain and clinical trials are now ongoing to address this issue. (See "Overview of homocysteine").
I don't recommend Niacin for steroid-using bodybuilders for several reasons. The biggest is that Niacin in high doses is extremely hepatotoxic and steroids already put an enormous stress on the liver. The other reason is that steroids increase clearance of Niacine significantly, meaning that the low density lipoprotein lowering effect of Niacin on those who use steroids is much lower.
For steroid-using bodybuilders with cholesterol problems I believe that pravastatin is better even though it can damage skeletal muscle cells. Cranberry juice also helps to boost kidney function significantly and decrease systemic half-life of steroids without having an effect on the latching ability of steroid molecules on steroid receptors. Steroid-using bodybuilders should also ingest 50 grams a day of soluble fiber from oatmeal, which decrease the absorption of saturated fat and result in an increase in the production of short-chain fatty acids from bacteria in the colon, which significantly lowers LDL.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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this^^^, forgot about u ,son..sorry ;D
lol. forgiven
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Why are you taking this shit? 99% of women find big muscles gross, and only a retard would lose their life over this. If I were to kill myself with drugs, it would be with crack and heroine. At least they are fun and don't make your dick go limp. Why would anyone take something that makes you bald, with an oily complexion full of acne, artherosclerotic and nephralgic? Why? Oh, why?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Where did you get the statistic that "99% of women find big muscles gross"? There's probably no chance I'll get muscular as Jay Cutler but I know I get more muscular than Slin. You can't listen to what women say because they have no idea what they want. If you try to give them what the want then a man with Bill Gates' money and Brad Pitt looks won't be enough.
Doing crack and heroin is stupid because they'll lead everything in your life to destruction like your career, health, money, family and reputation etc. The hormones make get erections for no reason. It can be embarassing in public, oh well. My goal is to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger as possible. That's the main reason I'm doing what I'm doing. By being big you get lot of perks.
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Why are you taking this shit? 99% of women find big muscles gross, and only a retard would lose their life over this. If I were to kill myself with drugs, it would be with crack and heroine. At least they are fun and don't make your dick go limp. Why would anyone take something that makes you bald, with an oily complexion full of acne, artherosclerotic and nephralgic? Why? Oh, why?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
It's almost impossible to fuck on opiates--especially powerful ones like heroin.
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It's almost impossible to fuck on opiates--especially powerful ones like heroin.
I also believed that since opiates are sedatives and muscle relaxants, but personal experience changed after I had the strongest erection in my life on oxycodone. Heroin can actually give you an instant orgasm if you mainline it.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I also believed that since opiates are sedatives and muscle relaxants, but personal experience changed after I had the strongest erection in my life on oxycodone. Heroin can actually give you an instant orgasm if you mainline it.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You're not typical then. I always had great difficulty when I used to use oxycodone. The same is true of heroin users I've known.
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Yes adding more drugs is key.
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whats your typical blast and cruise cycles looks like?
I blast for 3 months, but it all depends on what I'm trying to do at the time. Right now, I'm going for as much pure, quality muscle as possible, while not putting on any body fat. I've actually lost body fat to be honest lol. I gained 12lbs so far and went from seeing 4 abs while flexed, to now seeing all 6 while flexed, and the lines that separate my abs from my obliques. I've dropped about 3% bf if I had to guess.
As for cruising, I cruise on 200/wk of just test. I've contemplated adding masteron to that, to get the benefits from every bit of test I do have at that time, but I shed pretty bad on dht derivitives, so I will probably stick with just test for my cruises.
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I blast for 3 months, but it all depends on what I'm trying to do at the time. Right now, I'm going for as much pure, quality muscle as possible, while not putting on any body fat. I've actually lost body fat to be honest lol. I gained 12lbs so far and went from seeing 4 abs while flexed, to now seeing all 6 while flexed, and the lines that separate my abs from my obliques. I've dropped about 3% bf if I had to guess.
As for cruising, I cruise on 200/wk of just test. I've contemplated adding masteron to that, to get the benefits from every bit of test I do have at that time, but I shed pretty bad on dht derivitives, so I will probably stick with just test for my cruises.
From your experience, are you able to maintain the same condition that you achieved from the blat while being on cruise? (even if it means sacrificing few pounds)
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From your experience, are you able to maintain the same condition that you achieved from the blat while being on cruise? (even if it means sacrificing few pounds)
Absolutely, it's all about diet and keeping training intensity just as high as it was when you were blasting. If you did cardio during the blast, then keep doing cardio during the cruise. If you ate 50g carbs per meal during the blast, keep doing that during the cruise. If you notice your lines start to diminish, then decrease carbs by 10g every meal for a week and re-assess how you look after that. If you're still not quite where you were during the blast, repeat that process again, etc. Sure, you might need to tweak a few things here or there, but conditioning is definitely maintainable.
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go to the doc. get on some bp and cholesterol meds. do cardio regularly
cholesterol med are awful ,, useless
blood pressure med like diovan that a beauty of science
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guys who 'cruise' always say they just take a HRT dose of test.
then when you push them they'll admit maybe 200mg deca too
and some proviron, or some winny, and of course 4ius ED.
And they might take 2-3 of those 200mg shots a week, just to make sure they don't lose any muscle on that 'cruise'
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guys who 'cruise' always say they just take a HRT dose of test.
then when you push them they'll admit maybe 200mg deca too
and some proviron, or some winny, and of course 4ius ED.
And they might take 2-3 of those 200mg shots a week, just to make sure they don't lose any muscle on that 'cruise'
I cruise, and ill admit I don't use an hrt dose. An hrt dose is anywhere from 200-250mg bi-weekly. I use 200Mg every week, no reason to lie about it. Just test, no orals, no deca, nothing else.
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You're not typical then. I always had great difficulty when I used to use oxycodone. The same is true of heroin users I've known.
Of course he isn't. He is a 350+ pound Navy Seal, with a good ground game.