same here, I can care less if someone at the gym looks at me or what, they can talk all the crap they want about me but why would I care?? I train for me and thats it, I love the feeling and will use off and on like you said for long as I can. HRt for the older years of my life to keep me active and someone looking good lol i dont like any "old fella" is suppose to have a eye catching physique, age catches up with everyone at some point, natural or not lol