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Title: Respectable bench weight
Post by: No Patience on February 26, 2012, 06:21:53 PM
What is a respectable bench weight for the following?

-natural, never touched gh/anabolics/pro hormones EVER...just too much booze, weed,coke,hydrocodone
-35 years old, 2 kids, full time work, full time school
-shitload of stress
-170lbs, 12% bf, 5'9, white
-rollercoaster workout background(serious for some time followed by months of nothing)

I started using the intellegent bench press form(powerlifting style)

In the last 6 weeks i have dropped 18.5lbs and 3.4% bf, my bench 1rm went from 205lb to
260lb and it is starting to drop a little to around 245 from cutting

I feel that 260lb at 170lb bw is pretty good considering my sickening lack of willpower

Flame on nuggas
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: Nirvana on February 26, 2012, 06:23:49 PM
on getbig I bench 405 for 5 and then can't even do one pushup
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: deadz on February 26, 2012, 06:24:19 PM
Anything less than 315 is pathetic.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: wes on February 26, 2012, 06:26:06 PM
100 pounds over bodyweight is good

double bodyweight is great

anything over double bodyweight is fantastic
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: Hulkotron on February 26, 2012, 06:26:18 PM
A full-grown adult male who lifts with any sort of consistency should be able to bench his bodyweight at least eight times imo.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: A Professional on February 26, 2012, 06:27:18 PM
You're extremely weak.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: JZMB on February 26, 2012, 06:27:39 PM
Anything less than 315 615 is pathetic.

Fixed. ;D
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: No Patience on February 26, 2012, 06:30:36 PM
i think i can get 315 by the end of the year if i stay very focused, i would be satisfied for life
with getting 3 plates just once at my size

it amazed me how fast the weight increase by using powerlift form

people knock bench, saying it is an ego lift but it works my whole front
upper body minus biceps
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: supernick on February 26, 2012, 07:24:39 PM
i prefer the incline.....cant remember the last time i flat pressed
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: qbkilla on February 26, 2012, 07:30:02 PM
for what its worth i do 255 for 12 on the incline smith,,when i do it as first chest exercise,,im 200lb and very lean,,,lots of hormones,,,i dont think its very strong but i dont know i dont care about weight,,if i do it after 20 other sets of chest its something like 185 for 12...dumbells i do 95's for about 12....im pretty weak on curls,,,i can only curl the 35's for 12 with great form,,,shrug 355 for 12 with good form on smith,,,, can't squat for shit lol i dont even do it,,,cant dead due to torn labrum,,,most i ever benched was 345 for 7 back when i was 260,,not lean at all,,,fat bloofy bouncer look,,,on cycle,,,then i tore my pec that was too much weight for me im naturally weak...at the time i was probably the biggest bencher at my golds,,,but at my new gym i see some big bloofy guys doing 6 + plates and come change,,just big bloofy fat guys
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: Hulkotron on February 26, 2012, 07:34:52 PM
A 1RM of 205 at 170 lbs is pretty weak, most high schoolers can probably do that, but 260 at that body weight isn't bad I'd say.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: bradistani on February 26, 2012, 07:43:22 PM
your body weight plus half is more than respecable
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: dustin on February 26, 2012, 07:44:58 PM
your body weight plus half is more than respecable

Exactly. I was going to say 1.5 times your bodyweight for anyone who's hitting the gym on a pretty regular occasion.

For people who say they actually work out or walk around wearing wife beaters and shit, you should bench double your weight or else cover up the pipe cleaners and stop jutting your chest out like a peacock.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: dj181 on February 26, 2012, 07:51:58 PM
is this 260 "touch and go" or is it with a strict pause at the bottom or a "bridge and bounce" affair?
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: Swlabr on February 26, 2012, 07:53:35 PM
Once my wrist stops hurting I'm gonna max out on bench one day, see where I'm at compared to the studs on getbig.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: HTexan on February 26, 2012, 07:56:13 PM
your bodyweight + 100 lbs.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: No Patience on February 26, 2012, 07:57:01 PM
is this 260 "touch and go" or is it with a strict pause at the bottom or a "bridge and bounce" affair?

more touch and go...i didnt do it with the pause like powerlifting judging

i brought it down to my sternum and pushed it up, that is good in my books
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: hrspwr on February 26, 2012, 07:58:20 PM
Once my wrist stops hurting I'm gonna max out on bench one day, see where I'm at compared to the studs on getbig.

 Right, like you could stop jerking off long enough to heal your wrist.  :D
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: No Patience on February 26, 2012, 07:59:06 PM
your bodyweight + 100 lbs.

this makes no sense...a 170lb guy benching 270 is much more impressive than a 250lb guy
benching 350
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: HTexan on February 26, 2012, 08:00:37 PM
this makes no sense...a 170lb guy benching 270 is much more impressive than a 250lb guy
benching 350
no not really
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: No Patience on February 26, 2012, 08:04:18 PM
no not really

you really believe you can just throw a poundage out without regard to weight statistics

so you are saying the bigger you are, the less you have to lift to be equally as strong?
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on February 26, 2012, 08:04:36 PM
Ask scooby
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: HTexan on February 26, 2012, 08:12:22 PM
you really believe you can just throw a poundage out without regard to weight statistics

so you are saying the bigger you are, the less you have to lift to be equally as strong?
yes, the body has a limit.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: No Patience on February 26, 2012, 08:22:05 PM
yes, the body has a limit.

high school education?
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: HTexan on February 26, 2012, 09:09:07 PM
high school education?
masters  ;)
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: StanZoLOL on February 26, 2012, 09:23:26 PM
275-300 paused at the chest in overall good form.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on February 26, 2012, 09:41:58 PM
What is a respectable bench weight for the following?

-natural, never touched gh/anabolics/pro hormones EVER...just too much booze, weed,coke,hydrocodone
-35 years old, 2 kids, full time work, full time school
-shitload of stress
-170lbs, 12% bf, 5'9, white
-rollercoaster workout background(serious for some time followed by months of nothing)

I started using the intellegent bench press form(powerlifting style)

In the last 6 weeks i have dropped 18.5lbs and 3.4% bf, my bench 1rm went from 205lb to
260lb and it is starting to drop a little to around 245 from cutting

I feel that 260lb at 170lb bw is pretty good considering my sickening lack of willpower

Flame on nuggas

this is very close to my description!!!..

i am a lifetime natural.. never touched anything.. only tried creatine few times..
32 years old,.. husband,.. 2 kids.. a dog to walk every day.. work.. etc..
175 lbs,.. around 12% BF,.. 5'7.. white arab..

i bench pressed 150 kg (331 lbs) for one easy rep last monday.. i may try the 155 kg (342 lbs) today.. i did it before many times but at a little higher BW than now..
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on February 26, 2012, 09:45:01 PM
100 pounds over bodyweight is good

double bodyweight is great

anything over double bodyweight is fantastic

according to this i am great now.. hope to be fantastic one day :D
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: chess315 on February 26, 2012, 09:59:51 PM
100 pounds over bodyweight is good

double bodyweight is great

anything over double bodyweight is fantastic
most cream of the crop juiced to the gill powerlifters cant do a raw double b.w bench press let alone some natural. Maybe  if very short.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: chess315 on February 26, 2012, 10:01:48 PM
according to this i am great now.. hope to be fantastic one day :D
if correct and not super sloppy ass in the air that is a very great feat of strength. Double b.w is a little better then great more like 1-20,000-40,000 males could do it. Many get close but 20lbs away is not double body weight. My figures are very conservative if i was a going to bet I would bet a double body weight bench is more like 1- 100,000 males or less. No doubt wes trained with some one in the 70s that repped double b.w like one of the barbarian borthers or something. lol
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on February 27, 2012, 12:10:41 AM
if correct and not super sloppy ass in the air that is a very great feat of strength. Double b.w is a little better then great more like 1-20,000-40,000 males could do it. Many get close but 20lbs away is not double body weight. My figures are very conservative if i was a going to bet I would bet a double body weight bench is more like 1- 100,000 males or less. No doubt wes trained with some one in the 70s that repped double b.w like one of the barbarian borthers or something. lol

here is me at 69 kg bench pressing 140 kg (more than double my weight which makes me fantastic not just great)  ;D

the form is not perfect here because this was in the power lifting contest of my gym immediately after the bb contest which i had entered so was exhausted after a lot of worming up and posing.. i was normally doing it easier than this video..



and here in a new video i did the same weight for 3 reps but at 83 kg bw:



Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: diamondcut on February 27, 2012, 12:17:29 AM
some people are great at benching

some people are horrible at benching


at the end of the day i don't give a shit how much i can bench, only about how my pecs look

my bench is pretty horrible btw
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: pluck on February 27, 2012, 12:20:27 AM
So you don't respect guys who don't bench a lot?

Do you still read Superman and Batman comics with a flashlight under your blanket at night too?
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 27, 2012, 12:40:58 AM
stuart mcrobert says someone who doesnt use drugs with normal genetics and responsibilities can hope to achieve a single with 315
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: Mawse on February 27, 2012, 12:43:53 AM
stuart mcrobert says someone who doesnt use drugs with normal genetics and responsibilities can hope to achieve a single with 315

seems about right.

those of us who Juice but are not in prison or natural black althetes could look at 405 x 5 as a impressive goal for a juicer or 365 x 10 both with perfect form no brotouch or sternum bouncing
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: diamondcut on February 27, 2012, 12:51:40 AM
stuart mcrobert says someone who doesnt use drugs with normal genetics and responsibilities can hope to achieve a single with 315
seems pretty accurate

tired of all these bullshit claims of a natty 170lber doing a single with 405

how many guys do you see in the gym who can bench 405. when guys bench 315 its a rarity

and its always the big fat guys who do the 315+
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: pluck on February 27, 2012, 12:59:39 AM
stuart mcrobert says someone who doesnt use drugs with normal genetics and responsibilities can hope to achieve a single with 315

Hahaha....you dumb fucks need to go to any high school football weight lifting session. There are plenty of guys doing 315, 365, 405.

Sure some of them have bad form ...but still punk kids benching that much and a great majority of them are natural and scared of juice.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: The Italian Lifter on February 27, 2012, 02:43:23 AM
100 pounds over bodyweight is good

double bodyweight is great

anything over double bodyweight is fantastic

bodyweight less 100 pounds?
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: BB on February 27, 2012, 03:23:24 AM
The usual standard that I think is a good one is -

1.5 x bw Bench

2 x bw Squat

2.25 or 2.5 x bw Deadlift . You'll get some argument over the deadlift number, but that's a good range.

Anything over body weight is good for a shoulder press with no leg drive.

That is respectable range for a guy that puts in quality time at the gym but isn't super hardcore.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 27, 2012, 03:50:26 AM
seems pretty accurate

tired of all these bullshit claims of a natty 170lber doing a single with 405

how many guys do you see in the gym who can bench 405. when guys bench 315 its a rarity

and its always the big fat guys who do the 315+

mcrobert talks about proper form, genetically typical non drug assisted people with a job and responsibilities

obviously there are going to be some more gifted people living in low stress environment (high school, college) who can achieve more

just keepin' it real unlike a lot of getbiggers
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: wes on February 27, 2012, 03:55:15 AM
McRobert with the 315 statement.........does it apply to a guy who weighs 225 or a guy who weighs 165.........stupid generalization on his part.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: DBX on February 27, 2012, 04:09:51 AM
McRobert with the 315 statement.........does it apply to a guy who weighs 225 or a guy who weighs 165.........stupid generalization on his part.

dumb thread all together , apples and oranges...
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: wes on February 27, 2012, 04:10:26 AM
dumb thread all together , apples and oranges...
Yup! 
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: Dr Dutch on February 27, 2012, 04:24:58 AM
What is a respectable bench weight for the following?

-natural, never touched gh/anabolics/pro hormones EVER...just too much booze, weed,coke,hydrocodone
-35 years old, 2 kids, full time work, full time school
-shitload of stress
-170lbs, 12% bf, 5'9, white
-rollercoaster workout background(serious for some time followed by months of nothing)

I started using the intellegent bench press form(powerlifting style)

In the last 6 weeks i have dropped 18.5lbs and 3.4% bf, my bench 1rm went from 205lb to
260lb and it is starting to drop a little to around 245 from cutting

I feel that 260lb at 170lb bw is pretty good considering my sickening lack of willpower

Flame on nuggas
You just want us to respond that your bench is terrific, don't you ?
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: wes on February 27, 2012, 04:35:54 AM
if correct and not super sloppy ass in the air that is a very great feat of strength. Double b.w is a little better then great more like 1-20,000-40,000 males could do it. Many get close but 20lbs away is not double body weight. My figures are very conservative if i was a going to bet I would bet a double body weight bench is more like 1- 100,000 males or less. No doubt wes trained with some one in the 70s that repped double b.w like one of the barbarian borthers or something. lol
;D

I have done double bodyweight myself and have seen tons of guys do it.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on February 27, 2012, 04:57:48 AM
McRobert with the 315 statement.........does it apply to a guy who weighs 225 or a guy who weighs 165.........stupid generalization on his part.


Maybe the 165 guy should train in the gym.  ::)
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: wes on February 27, 2012, 04:58:26 AM
Maybe the 165 guy should train in the gym.  ::)
We can`t all be as big as Klaus!!  ;D
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on February 27, 2012, 05:32:34 AM
;D

I have done double bodyweight myself and have seen tons of guys do it.

at what age you started to take drugs??..
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: OTHstrong on February 27, 2012, 05:37:25 AM
Anything over 250 is good, lots of naturals can bench 225, I know at least 1 guy that can do 4 plates as natural, I did 365 before I juiced but that's cause as a teenager I benched literally every other day but very few can crak 3 plates and up without juice
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: dj181 on February 27, 2012, 05:39:25 AM
275-300 paused at the chest in overall good form.

i'd say that maybe 1% of the whole male population (ages18-40) could do that, and even if we talk about only fellas who train, then it's around 10% of the total training population

300 pounds paused at the chest is an OUTSTANDING press
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: mesmorph78 on February 27, 2012, 06:02:42 AM
dumb thread all together , apples and oranges...
yup
People should learn to speak for themselves
And not generalise 6 billion + other people
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: A Professional on February 27, 2012, 10:32:38 AM
Anything under 315 is weak imo.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: wes on February 27, 2012, 10:33:49 AM
yup
People should learn to speak for themselves
And not generalise 6 billion + other people

C`mon bro,that makes far too much sense!  ;D
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: Nirvana on February 27, 2012, 10:58:15 AM
I bounce like hell of the sternum and arch my butt off the pad.  then I brag about how much i bench and if someone benches less with perfect form i call them weak.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: StanZoLOL on February 27, 2012, 11:02:16 AM
i'd say that maybe 1% of the whole male population (ages18-40) could do that, and even if we talk about only fellas who train, then it's around 10% of the total training population

300 pounds paused at the chest is an OUTSTANDING press

Eh, I'm training a guy now for a meet, 100% lifetime natural, looks like absolute shit haha and he just paused 285 relatively easy (maybe 95%) at 178 BW and we're gonna have him open with 275 and then go to 300 at his meet. This fella has way below average genetics, looks nothing like a bber whatsoever, he's just been training for 10-12 years consistently.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: wes on February 27, 2012, 11:03:03 AM
Eh, I'm training a guy now for a meet, 100% lifetime natural, looks like absolute shit haha and he just paused 285 relatively easy (maybe 95%) at 178 BW and we're gonna have him open with 275 and then go to 300 at his meet. This fella has way below average genetics, looks nothing like a bber whatsoever, he's just been training for 10-12 years consistently.
What`s he weigh in at bro?
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: StanZoLOL on February 27, 2012, 11:04:59 AM
What`s he weigh in at bro?

178. Around 5'10 I'd say. Arms are average length, so not really efficient leverages either.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: wes on February 27, 2012, 11:05:22 AM
178.
Good bench then for sure.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: StanZoLOL on February 27, 2012, 11:06:41 AM
Good bench then for sure.

Yep, I generally never believe anyone is natural when they say it, either...but you'd believe if you saw him. ;)
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: A Professional on February 27, 2012, 11:08:03 AM
I benched 315 the first time I attempted it.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: wes on February 27, 2012, 11:09:07 AM
Yep, I generally never believe anyone is natural when they say it, either...but you'd believe if you saw him. ;)
I`ve seen some strong natty guys in my day,not big and shredded,but decent size and pretty damn strong for being all natural.

You tell them they could kick ass if they got on gear,but they never seem to want to hear it.................to each his own.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: wes on February 27, 2012, 11:09:47 AM
I benched 315 the first time I attempted it.
We all did! ;)
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: A Professional on February 27, 2012, 11:13:11 AM
We all did! ;)

Yes, I wonder how far I can take it.
I don't push it though. I'm not about to get overdeveloped and look like some muscle queer. I concentrate on high reps.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: StanZoLOL on February 27, 2012, 11:14:11 AM
I`ve seen some strong natty guys in my day,not big and shredded,but decent size and pretty damn strong for being all natural.

You tell them they could kick ass if they got on gear,but they never seem to want to hear it.................to each his own.

What's the strongest you've seen you think was really natural? I've seen some competing in USAPL who claimed natural and were around 400 bench, 600 dead etc but I think at that level it's kinda could go either way. Really easy to pass off low doses as natural too...yet still get a huge fucking strength boost.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: wes on February 27, 2012, 11:16:56 AM
What's the strongest you've seen you think was really natural? I've seen some competing in USAPL who claimed natural and were around 400 bench, 600 dead etc but I think at that level it's kinda could go either way. Really easy to pass off low doses as natural too...yet still get a huge fucking strength boost.
Hard to remember,but I believe it was around 365-370........guy weighed about 195 pounds or so.

Best non-natty bench I ever saw in person was 600-3 by Glen Chabot.........talked about him a bit last week.

Seen plenty of 400-500 benchers over the years.

I`ve personally done none of the above!  :(
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: wes on February 27, 2012, 11:17:44 AM
Yes, I wonder how far I can take it.
I don't push it though. I'm not about to get overdeveloped and look like some muscle queer. I concentrate on high reps.
Smart move!

Keep pumping!  LOL  :)
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: nasht5 on February 27, 2012, 11:30:30 AM
benching your own bodyweight is ok

1.25 x your body weight is good

1.5 x your body weight is moving some impressive weight

1.75 x your body weight people will swear your on steroids

2 x your bodyweight is fucking impressive no matter how much or little you weigh
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: Grape Ape on February 27, 2012, 11:43:07 AM
What's the strongest you've seen you think was really natural?

Guy on my softball team does 5 sets of 315 x 10.   It's insane how easy it is for him.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 27, 2012, 02:25:46 PM
McRobert with the 315 statement.........does it apply to a guy who weighs 225 or a guy who weighs 165.........stupid generalization on his part.


we're talking about typical person not a freakshow
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: BiGHer on February 27, 2012, 02:41:20 PM
I'm not sure what my 1 rep max is.  Now that I think about it, I haven't maxed out in about a year or so.

I currently Flat Bench about once per month and when I do, it is generally the first movement in my Chest workout.  I much prefer to start with an Incline movement though.

A typical flat bench workout for me now looks like this:

Warm up rotator cuffs first

135 x 10-20 reps for warm up

225 x 10

315 x 10

405 x 5-8 reps (depending on strength that day) then dropset to 315 for max reps, followed by a drop to 225 for max reps, and finally a drop to 135 for max reps.


Weight is 253 right now.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: Swlabr on February 27, 2012, 02:42:41 PM
I'm not sure what my 1 rep max is.  Now that I think about it, I haven't maxed out in about a year or so.

I currently Flat Bench about once per month and when I do, it is generally the first movement in my Chest workout.  I much prefer to start with an Incline movement though.

A typical flat bench workout for me now looks like this:

Warm up rotator cuffs first

135 x 10-20 reps for warm up

225 x 10

315 x 10

405 x 5-8 reps (depending on strength that day) then dropset to 315 for max reps, followed by a drop to 225 for max reps, and finally a drop to 135 for max reps.


Weight is 253 right now.

Damn. :o
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: dr.chimps on February 27, 2012, 03:00:16 PM
Seen 2 guys over the years go above 4 plates. One was totally juiced, the other I figured was a big fat liar. Lotta weight.
Title: Re: Respectable bench weight
Post by: MikMaq on February 27, 2012, 03:09:28 PM
Anything over 200 is average. 250+ strong,

over 300 you get into strong as fuck or freaky strong.