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What is a respectable bench weight for the following?
-natural, never touched gh/anabolics/pro hormones EVER...just too much booze, weed,coke,hydrocodone
-35 years old, 2 kids, full time work, full time school
-shitload of stress
-170lbs, 12% bf, 5'9, white
-rollercoaster workout background(serious for some time followed by months of nothing)
I started using the intellegent bench press form(powerlifting style)
In the last 6 weeks i have dropped 18.5lbs and 3.4% bf, my bench 1rm went from 205lb to
260lb and it is starting to drop a little to around 245 from cutting
I feel that 260lb at 170lb bw is pretty good considering my sickening lack of willpower
Flame on nuggas
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on getbig I bench 405 for 5 and then can't even do one pushup
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Anything less than 315 is pathetic.
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100 pounds over bodyweight is good
double bodyweight is great
anything over double bodyweight is fantastic
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A full-grown adult male who lifts with any sort of consistency should be able to bench his bodyweight at least eight times imo.
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You're extremely weak.
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Anything less than 315 615 is pathetic.
Fixed. ;D
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i think i can get 315 by the end of the year if i stay very focused, i would be satisfied for life
with getting 3 plates just once at my size
it amazed me how fast the weight increase by using powerlift form
people knock bench, saying it is an ego lift but it works my whole front
upper body minus biceps
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i prefer the incline.....cant remember the last time i flat pressed
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for what its worth i do 255 for 12 on the incline smith,,when i do it as first chest exercise,,im 200lb and very lean,,,lots of hormones,,,i dont think its very strong but i dont know i dont care about weight,,if i do it after 20 other sets of chest its something like 185 for 12...dumbells i do 95's for about 12....im pretty weak on curls,,,i can only curl the 35's for 12 with great form,,,shrug 355 for 12 with good form on smith,,,, can't squat for shit lol i dont even do it,,,cant dead due to torn labrum,,,most i ever benched was 345 for 7 back when i was 260,,not lean at all,,,fat bloofy bouncer look,,,on cycle,,,then i tore my pec that was too much weight for me im naturally weak...at the time i was probably the biggest bencher at my golds,,,but at my new gym i see some big bloofy guys doing 6 + plates and come change,,just big bloofy fat guys
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A 1RM of 205 at 170 lbs is pretty weak, most high schoolers can probably do that, but 260 at that body weight isn't bad I'd say.
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your body weight plus half is more than respecable
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your body weight plus half is more than respecable
Exactly. I was going to say 1.5 times your bodyweight for anyone who's hitting the gym on a pretty regular occasion.
For people who say they actually work out or walk around wearing wife beaters and shit, you should bench double your weight or else cover up the pipe cleaners and stop jutting your chest out like a peacock.
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is this 260 "touch and go" or is it with a strict pause at the bottom or a "bridge and bounce" affair?
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Once my wrist stops hurting I'm gonna max out on bench one day, see where I'm at compared to the studs on getbig.
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your bodyweight + 100 lbs.
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is this 260 "touch and go" or is it with a strict pause at the bottom or a "bridge and bounce" affair?
more touch and go...i didnt do it with the pause like powerlifting judging
i brought it down to my sternum and pushed it up, that is good in my books
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Once my wrist stops hurting I'm gonna max out on bench one day, see where I'm at compared to the studs on getbig.
Right, like you could stop jerking off long enough to heal your wrist. :D
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your bodyweight + 100 lbs.
this makes no sense...a 170lb guy benching 270 is much more impressive than a 250lb guy
benching 350
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this makes no sense...a 170lb guy benching 270 is much more impressive than a 250lb guy
benching 350
no not really
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no not really
you really believe you can just throw a poundage out without regard to weight statistics
so you are saying the bigger you are, the less you have to lift to be equally as strong?
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Ask scooby
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you really believe you can just throw a poundage out without regard to weight statistics
so you are saying the bigger you are, the less you have to lift to be equally as strong?
yes, the body has a limit.
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yes, the body has a limit.
high school education?
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high school education?
masters ;)
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275-300 paused at the chest in overall good form.
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What is a respectable bench weight for the following?
-natural, never touched gh/anabolics/pro hormones EVER...just too much booze, weed,coke,hydrocodone
-35 years old, 2 kids, full time work, full time school
-shitload of stress
-170lbs, 12% bf, 5'9, white
-rollercoaster workout background(serious for some time followed by months of nothing)
I started using the intellegent bench press form(powerlifting style)
In the last 6 weeks i have dropped 18.5lbs and 3.4% bf, my bench 1rm went from 205lb to
260lb and it is starting to drop a little to around 245 from cutting
I feel that 260lb at 170lb bw is pretty good considering my sickening lack of willpower
Flame on nuggas
this is very close to my description!!!..
i am a lifetime natural.. never touched anything.. only tried creatine few times..
32 years old,.. husband,.. 2 kids.. a dog to walk every day.. work.. etc..
175 lbs,.. around 12% BF,.. 5'7.. white arab..
i bench pressed 150 kg (331 lbs) for one easy rep last monday.. i may try the 155 kg (342 lbs) today.. i did it before many times but at a little higher BW than now..
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100 pounds over bodyweight is good
double bodyweight is great
anything over double bodyweight is fantastic
according to this i am great now.. hope to be fantastic one day :D
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100 pounds over bodyweight is good
double bodyweight is great
anything over double bodyweight is fantastic
most cream of the crop juiced to the gill powerlifters cant do a raw double b.w bench press let alone some natural. Maybe if very short.
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according to this i am great now.. hope to be fantastic one day :D
if correct and not super sloppy ass in the air that is a very great feat of strength. Double b.w is a little better then great more like 1-20,000-40,000 males could do it. Many get close but 20lbs away is not double body weight. My figures are very conservative if i was a going to bet I would bet a double body weight bench is more like 1- 100,000 males or less. No doubt wes trained with some one in the 70s that repped double b.w like one of the barbarian borthers or something. lol
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if correct and not super sloppy ass in the air that is a very great feat of strength. Double b.w is a little better then great more like 1-20,000-40,000 males could do it. Many get close but 20lbs away is not double body weight. My figures are very conservative if i was a going to bet I would bet a double body weight bench is more like 1- 100,000 males or less. No doubt wes trained with some one in the 70s that repped double b.w like one of the barbarian borthers or something. lol
here is me at 69 kg bench pressing 140 kg (more than double my weight which makes me fantastic not just great) ;D
the form is not perfect here because this was in the power lifting contest of my gym immediately after the bb contest which i had entered so was exhausted after a lot of worming up and posing.. i was normally doing it easier than this video..
and here in a new video i did the same weight for 3 reps but at 83 kg bw:
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some people are great at benching
some people are horrible at benching
at the end of the day i don't give a shit how much i can bench, only about how my pecs look
my bench is pretty horrible btw
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So you don't respect guys who don't bench a lot?
Do you still read Superman and Batman comics with a flashlight under your blanket at night too?
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stuart mcrobert says someone who doesnt use drugs with normal genetics and responsibilities can hope to achieve a single with 315
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stuart mcrobert says someone who doesnt use drugs with normal genetics and responsibilities can hope to achieve a single with 315
seems about right.
those of us who Juice but are not in prison or natural black althetes could look at 405 x 5 as a impressive goal for a juicer or 365 x 10 both with perfect form no brotouch or sternum bouncing
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stuart mcrobert says someone who doesnt use drugs with normal genetics and responsibilities can hope to achieve a single with 315
seems pretty accurate
tired of all these bullshit claims of a natty 170lber doing a single with 405
how many guys do you see in the gym who can bench 405. when guys bench 315 its a rarity
and its always the big fat guys who do the 315+
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stuart mcrobert says someone who doesnt use drugs with normal genetics and responsibilities can hope to achieve a single with 315
Hahaha....you dumb fucks need to go to any high school football weight lifting session. There are plenty of guys doing 315, 365, 405.
Sure some of them have bad form ...but still punk kids benching that much and a great majority of them are natural and scared of juice.
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100 pounds over bodyweight is good
double bodyweight is great
anything over double bodyweight is fantastic
bodyweight less 100 pounds?
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The usual standard that I think is a good one is -
1.5 x bw Bench
2 x bw Squat
2.25 or 2.5 x bw Deadlift . You'll get some argument over the deadlift number, but that's a good range.
Anything over body weight is good for a shoulder press with no leg drive.
That is respectable range for a guy that puts in quality time at the gym but isn't super hardcore.
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seems pretty accurate
tired of all these bullshit claims of a natty 170lber doing a single with 405
how many guys do you see in the gym who can bench 405. when guys bench 315 its a rarity
and its always the big fat guys who do the 315+
mcrobert talks about proper form, genetically typical non drug assisted people with a job and responsibilities
obviously there are going to be some more gifted people living in low stress environment (high school, college) who can achieve more
just keepin' it real unlike a lot of getbiggers
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McRobert with the 315 statement.........does it apply to a guy who weighs 225 or a guy who weighs 165.........stupid generalization on his part.
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McRobert with the 315 statement.........does it apply to a guy who weighs 225 or a guy who weighs 165.........stupid generalization on his part.
dumb thread all together , apples and oranges...
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dumb thread all together , apples and oranges...
Yup!
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What is a respectable bench weight for the following?
-natural, never touched gh/anabolics/pro hormones EVER...just too much booze, weed,coke,hydrocodone
-35 years old, 2 kids, full time work, full time school
-shitload of stress
-170lbs, 12% bf, 5'9, white
-rollercoaster workout background(serious for some time followed by months of nothing)
I started using the intellegent bench press form(powerlifting style)
In the last 6 weeks i have dropped 18.5lbs and 3.4% bf, my bench 1rm went from 205lb to
260lb and it is starting to drop a little to around 245 from cutting
I feel that 260lb at 170lb bw is pretty good considering my sickening lack of willpower
Flame on nuggas
You just want us to respond that your bench is terrific, don't you ?
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if correct and not super sloppy ass in the air that is a very great feat of strength. Double b.w is a little better then great more like 1-20,000-40,000 males could do it. Many get close but 20lbs away is not double body weight. My figures are very conservative if i was a going to bet I would bet a double body weight bench is more like 1- 100,000 males or less. No doubt wes trained with some one in the 70s that repped double b.w like one of the barbarian borthers or something. lol
;D
I have done double bodyweight myself and have seen tons of guys do it.
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McRobert with the 315 statement.........does it apply to a guy who weighs 225 or a guy who weighs 165.........stupid generalization on his part.
Maybe the 165 guy should train in the gym. ::)
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Maybe the 165 guy should train in the gym. ::)
We can`t all be as big as Klaus!! ;D
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;D
I have done double bodyweight myself and have seen tons of guys do it.
at what age you started to take drugs??..
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Anything over 250 is good, lots of naturals can bench 225, I know at least 1 guy that can do 4 plates as natural, I did 365 before I juiced but that's cause as a teenager I benched literally every other day but very few can crak 3 plates and up without juice
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275-300 paused at the chest in overall good form.
i'd say that maybe 1% of the whole male population (ages18-40) could do that, and even if we talk about only fellas who train, then it's around 10% of the total training population
300 pounds paused at the chest is an OUTSTANDING press
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dumb thread all together , apples and oranges...
yup
People should learn to speak for themselves
And not generalise 6 billion + other people
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Anything under 315 is weak imo.
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yup
People should learn to speak for themselves
And not generalise 6 billion + other people
C`mon bro,that makes far too much sense! ;D
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I bounce like hell of the sternum and arch my butt off the pad. then I brag about how much i bench and if someone benches less with perfect form i call them weak.
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i'd say that maybe 1% of the whole male population (ages18-40) could do that, and even if we talk about only fellas who train, then it's around 10% of the total training population
300 pounds paused at the chest is an OUTSTANDING press
Eh, I'm training a guy now for a meet, 100% lifetime natural, looks like absolute shit haha and he just paused 285 relatively easy (maybe 95%) at 178 BW and we're gonna have him open with 275 and then go to 300 at his meet. This fella has way below average genetics, looks nothing like a bber whatsoever, he's just been training for 10-12 years consistently.
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Eh, I'm training a guy now for a meet, 100% lifetime natural, looks like absolute shit haha and he just paused 285 relatively easy (maybe 95%) at 178 BW and we're gonna have him open with 275 and then go to 300 at his meet. This fella has way below average genetics, looks nothing like a bber whatsoever, he's just been training for 10-12 years consistently.
What`s he weigh in at bro?
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What`s he weigh in at bro?
178. Around 5'10 I'd say. Arms are average length, so not really efficient leverages either.
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178.
Good bench then for sure.
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Good bench then for sure.
Yep, I generally never believe anyone is natural when they say it, either...but you'd believe if you saw him. ;)
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I benched 315 the first time I attempted it.
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Yep, I generally never believe anyone is natural when they say it, either...but you'd believe if you saw him. ;)
I`ve seen some strong natty guys in my day,not big and shredded,but decent size and pretty damn strong for being all natural.
You tell them they could kick ass if they got on gear,but they never seem to want to hear it.................to each his own.
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I benched 315 the first time I attempted it.
We all did! ;)
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We all did! ;)
Yes, I wonder how far I can take it.
I don't push it though. I'm not about to get overdeveloped and look like some muscle queer. I concentrate on high reps.
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I`ve seen some strong natty guys in my day,not big and shredded,but decent size and pretty damn strong for being all natural.
You tell them they could kick ass if they got on gear,but they never seem to want to hear it.................to each his own.
What's the strongest you've seen you think was really natural? I've seen some competing in USAPL who claimed natural and were around 400 bench, 600 dead etc but I think at that level it's kinda could go either way. Really easy to pass off low doses as natural too...yet still get a huge fucking strength boost.
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What's the strongest you've seen you think was really natural? I've seen some competing in USAPL who claimed natural and were around 400 bench, 600 dead etc but I think at that level it's kinda could go either way. Really easy to pass off low doses as natural too...yet still get a huge fucking strength boost.
Hard to remember,but I believe it was around 365-370........guy weighed about 195 pounds or so.
Best non-natty bench I ever saw in person was 600-3 by Glen Chabot.........talked about him a bit last week.
Seen plenty of 400-500 benchers over the years.
I`ve personally done none of the above! :(
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Yes, I wonder how far I can take it.
I don't push it though. I'm not about to get overdeveloped and look like some muscle queer. I concentrate on high reps.
Smart move!
Keep pumping! LOL :)
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benching your own bodyweight is ok
1.25 x your body weight is good
1.5 x your body weight is moving some impressive weight
1.75 x your body weight people will swear your on steroids
2 x your bodyweight is fucking impressive no matter how much or little you weigh
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What's the strongest you've seen you think was really natural?
Guy on my softball team does 5 sets of 315 x 10. It's insane how easy it is for him.
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McRobert with the 315 statement.........does it apply to a guy who weighs 225 or a guy who weighs 165.........stupid generalization on his part.
we're talking about typical person not a freakshow
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I'm not sure what my 1 rep max is. Now that I think about it, I haven't maxed out in about a year or so.
I currently Flat Bench about once per month and when I do, it is generally the first movement in my Chest workout. I much prefer to start with an Incline movement though.
A typical flat bench workout for me now looks like this:
Warm up rotator cuffs first
135 x 10-20 reps for warm up
225 x 10
315 x 10
405 x 5-8 reps (depending on strength that day) then dropset to 315 for max reps, followed by a drop to 225 for max reps, and finally a drop to 135 for max reps.
Weight is 253 right now.
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I'm not sure what my 1 rep max is. Now that I think about it, I haven't maxed out in about a year or so.
I currently Flat Bench about once per month and when I do, it is generally the first movement in my Chest workout. I much prefer to start with an Incline movement though.
A typical flat bench workout for me now looks like this:
Warm up rotator cuffs first
135 x 10-20 reps for warm up
225 x 10
315 x 10
405 x 5-8 reps (depending on strength that day) then dropset to 315 for max reps, followed by a drop to 225 for max reps, and finally a drop to 135 for max reps.
Weight is 253 right now.
Damn. :o
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Seen 2 guys over the years go above 4 plates. One was totally juiced, the other I figured was a big fat liar. Lotta weight.
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Anything over 200 is average. 250+ strong,
over 300 you get into strong as fuck or freaky strong.