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Title: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 08:55:15 PM
There use to be these concepts called propriety, modesty, decency, consideration. I know people are different. I get that. But does it have to be thrown in our faces and crammed down our throats everyday? Every fucking day.

Remember that pic of the nurse kissing the sailor after the end of WW2 in Times Square?

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ9XRuvHdR-Tb8zVu11GObRuF_ZCKD7POV3IYYcW5Z-IWqQS7c8)

This is what we have become now.

I so want this cesspool of a planet to end already.

(http://media.staradvertiser.com/images/312*416/20120227_marines_kissing.jpg)

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/Gay_Marine_homecoming_picture.html?id=140626293

Excerpt from the article:

The vast majority of the comments have been supportive.

Tim Chung said, "Thank you for your service. Welcome home. You are so brave for doing that, especially on military property. In that setting, wow what a terrific day!"  
 
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: apply85 on February 27, 2012, 08:56:30 PM
y? because it happens in public instead of private?
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: chaos on February 27, 2012, 08:57:09 PM
Outed!
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Fortress on February 27, 2012, 08:58:07 PM
I was with you until you threw out your example as two men kissing.

I am not gay but don't hate on them for being so. It isn't their "fault".

But, yes, this race we call human needs to be eliminated.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: outby43 on February 27, 2012, 08:59:10 PM
I can see why you would get upset.  I do too at times but I always remember I cannot control what others do and it is none of my business how others live. 

It is the Ron Paul principles.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 08:59:51 PM
y? because it happens in public instead of private?

Yes. There use to be a time when one distinguish between public and private behavior. It's one thing to swear when you in the privacy of your own home. It's quite another to swear when on TV on a microphone during an awards ceremony.

Another reason why we piss in a bathroom and not on the street. Um, wait a minute....
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: apply85 on February 27, 2012, 09:01:11 PM
uh so why does this not apply to the first pic
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2012, 09:04:24 PM
Watch this. Sort of similar. They are kissing eachother, NOT YOU, pellius. Who cares

Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 09:06:24 PM
I was with you until you threw out your example as two men kissing.

I am not gay but don't hate on them for being so. It isn't their "fault".

But, yes, this race we call human needs to be eliminated.

It's not a matter of who's fault. Homosexuality, men sexually attracted to another man and having sex with each other, represents anywhere from 2-4% of the population. It's by definition aberrant behavior. It should be kept on the DL just out of a sense of decency. The gay agenda is to make it seem quite normal and even chic. The more they can normalize it the more common place it will be. Their dream is that when a father watches his son walk out to the car on his first date it will make no difference if he's hand in hand with a girl or hand in hand with a guy. And for many here maybe it doesn't. It still does to me.

 
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: T-rex on February 27, 2012, 09:06:57 PM
I think if u served, that pic may make u want to throw up. Lezzies makin out perfectly fine though. Carry on
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Schmoff on February 27, 2012, 09:08:42 PM
"it's only gay if you want it to be"

Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2012, 09:11:36 PM
It's not a matter of who's fault. Homosexuality, men sexually attracted to another man and having sex with each other, represents anywhere from 2-4% of the population. It's by definition aberrant behavior. It should be kept on the DL just out of a sense of decency. The gay agenda is to make it seem quite normal and even chic. The more they can normalize it the more common place it will be. Their dream is that when a father watches his son walk out to the car on his first date it will make no difference if he's hand in hand with a girl or hand in hand with a guy. And for many here maybe it doesn't. It still does to me.

 

And your opinion is rooted in your religious beliefs. And that is fine, that's who you are. I can careless what 2 men do. It doesn't have any effect on my life.


(http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web03/2011/6/25/5/enhanced-buzz-31863-1308995619-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 27, 2012, 09:11:54 PM
Pellius.....I hear ya man. That's all I can really say, haha.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 09:20:03 PM
I can see why you would get upset.  I do too at times but I always remember I cannot control what others do and it is none of my business how others live. 

It is the Ron Paul principles.

Of course you can control what others do. We do it all the time. The government does it every nano second of our lives. But that's beside the point.

I'm not talking about passing laws about a couple of fags wet mouthing it in public. There use to be this concept called stigma. You just didn't do or act in certain ways because the public simply didn't accept it. No need for laws. That's why you don't show up in your underwear at a funeral. Nobody is going to arrest you if you do but you don't do it because you know it's aberrant behavior and not acceptable. The concept of propriety is lost. It stems from the sixties revolution where it became "If it feels good do it." To hell what other people think. Only you matter.

Many think that is an improvement. That we are a better people than our grandfather's generation. A generation where a 16 year old boy would lie about his age so he could fight for this country. Where adults were referred to as Mister and Misses. Where parents taught their little girls at an early age that when they sit down to keep their legs together or crossed. Where women didn't say to their kid in public, which I heard today standing in line at the grocery store: "Will you knock that fucking shit off!"

Lovely.  

I don't think it is an improvement. I don't think we are a better, more decent and honest generation than we were before. I guess if those queers start doing that dance where they dry hump each other that will be even more "brave."

And people ask me why I don't have kids. I love kids. I'd love to have kids. It would be good for me and help me grow and mature as a person. But for the kid? In this world? Not a chance. Not a fucking chance.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: outby43 on February 27, 2012, 09:21:39 PM
I hear ya Pellius.  If I had a son that sucked dick I don't think that would go over well with me.  For other people though I don't give a shit.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2012, 09:24:49 PM
It just seems useless and a waste of energy to care what someone else does. Is your life so pathetic that you have to focus on others?  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 09:25:28 PM
And your opinion is rooted in your religious beliefs. And that is fine, that's who you are. I can careless what 2 men do. It doesn't have any effect on my life.


(http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web03/2011/6/25/5/enhanced-buzz-31863-1308995619-2.jpg)

What two men, or anybody for that matter, does in private is no concern to me. What people do in public does matter. Don't lie to yourself. What if they started having anal sex right there and you were with your children? It doesn't bother you when those niggarrs blast their obscene rap music that you can literally feel from the speaker pounding when you are at Jamba Juice with your niece?

We have lost the distinction between public and private behavior. That's why someone like the admitted lost soul, Tbombz, felt it was perfectly appropriate to described what it was like to have someone fuck him in the ass.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Stavios on February 27, 2012, 09:25:46 PM
 8)
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Wiggs on February 27, 2012, 09:25:51 PM
We've turned into Europe and not the good things.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2012, 09:28:34 PM
What two men, or anybody for that matter, does in private is no concern to me. What people do in public does matter. Don't lie to yourself. What if they started having anal sex right there and you were with your children? It doesn't bother you when those niggarrs blast their obscene rap music that you can literally feel from the speaker pounding when you are at Jamba Juice with your niece?

We have lost the distinction between public and private behavior. That's why someone like the admitted lost soul, Tbombz, felt it was perfectly appropriate to described what it was like to have someone fuck him in the ass.

If 2 people started to have anal sex, whether its a man on man, or man on woman, id be pissed. You think its more acceptable for a man and woman to have anal sex in front of a child because its heterosexual sex?  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2012, 09:29:24 PM
What two men, or anybody for that matter, does in private is no concern to me. What people do in public does matter. Don't lie to yourself. What if they started having anal sex right there and you were with your children? It doesn't bother you when those niggarrs blast their obscene rap music that you can literally feel from the speaker pounding when you are at Jamba Juice with your niece?

We have lost the distinction between public and private behavior. That's why someone like the admitted lost soul, Tbombz, felt it was perfectly appropriate to described what it was like to have someone fuck him in the ass.

And that applies to a man and a woman. I dont want to see a man and a woman slobbering all over each other out in public.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 09:29:51 PM
It just seems useless and a waste of energy to care what someone else does. Is your life so pathetic that you have to focus on others?  :-\ :-\

You're lying to yourself. If a bunch of homeless people started hanging out where you live and pissing and swearing in public and you had kids you'd care. You'd care plenty.

It's a fallacy to think that you are morally superior because you tolerant any and all behavior. It just means you have no standards of decency.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2012, 09:32:19 PM
You're lying to yourself. If a bunch of homeless people started hanging out where you live and pissing and swearing in public and you had kids you'd care. You'd care plenty.

It's a fallacy to think that you are morally superior because you tolerant any and all behavior. It just means you have no standards of decency.

You give the most horrible examples lol. Gee, they are bad.

There is a huge difference between a homeless person peeing and swearing  in public and 2 men kissing. Gee, you are a bad debater. Read a book, then come back and debate.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: chaos on February 27, 2012, 09:33:31 PM
SF1900.....are you opening the closet door ???
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2012, 09:34:15 PM
SF1900.....are you opening the closet door ???

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 09:34:57 PM
If 2 people started to have anal sex, whether its a man on man, or man on woman, id be pissed. You think its more acceptable for a man and woman to have anal sex in front of a child because its heterosexual sex?  ::) ::)

Don't be moron! You claimed it is useless to care what someone, i.e., anyone does in public. I have made it crystal clear that it isn't just about public gay behavior. Rap music, bums on the street, swearing in public, under wear at funerals. Remember that guy who showed up at the airport boarding a plane wearing bra and panties? Fine with you?

I thought you were smarter than that.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 09:36:55 PM
You give the most horrible examples lol. Gee, they are bad.

There is a huge difference between a homeless person peeing and swearing  in public and 2 men kissing. Gee, you are a bad debater. Read a book, then come back and debate.

They are not horrible examples. Of course there is a huge difference. But that's to highlight your skewed concept that it doesn't matter what people do.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 09:38:10 PM
SF1900.....are you opening the closet door ???

I have feeling this one has a lot in his closet that he so wants to get out in the open.

Seriously SF, are there things?
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2012, 09:39:15 PM
Don't be moron! You claimed it is useless to care what someone, i.e., anyone does in public. I have made it crystal clear that it isn't just about public gay behavior. Rap music, bums on the street, swearing in public, under wear at funerals. Remember that guy who showed up at the airport boarding a plane wearing bra and panties? Fine with you?

I thought you were smarter than that.

Yes, within reason. You can't be that dumb. OF course I am against behavior in public that potentially causes harm to someone else. A bum peeing in public is unsanitary and him screaming and cursing could be considered aggressive behavior. So yeah, no shit Im against behavior that is deemed potentially harmful to others. I thought you would have realize that.

However, if someones behavior is not hurting or harming anyone else, who cares.

Also, 2 men kissing, which is why you initially started this thread is much different than someone going to a funeral in their underwear. If you cant see the difference, you're an idiot.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 09:39:15 PM
We've turned into Europe and not the good things.

QFT

Europe is like the canary in the cave.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2012, 09:40:03 PM
They are not horrible examples. Of course there is a huge difference. But that's to highlight your skewed concept that it doesn't matter what people do.

Read my above post, you nitwit. Your religion is clouding your judgement.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 09:41:01 PM
And that applies to a man and a woman. I dont want to see a man and a woman slobbering all over each other out in public.

Now you contradict yourself. It does matter how people behave in public.

I'm a horrible debater?

You're losing this one, honey.  
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2012, 09:44:06 PM
Now you contradict yourself. It does matter how people behave in public.

I'm a horrible debater?

You're losing this one, honey.  

Of course it matters. A person raising a gun in the air in public matters.

A behavior is either acceptable or not acceptable depending on its ability to cause harm to others or self.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 27, 2012, 09:45:58 PM
Liberalism is truly training the masses to accept everything that will be coming in the future without question.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: chaos on February 27, 2012, 09:48:28 PM
A behavior being accepted has nothing to do with harm, it has to do with the circumstance in which the behavior is displayed.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 09:50:47 PM
Yes, within reason. You can't be that dumb. OF course I am against behavior in public that potentially causes harm to someone else. A bum peeing in public is unsanitary and him screaming and cursing could be considered aggressive behavior. So yeah, no shit Im against behavior that is deemed potentially harmful to others. I thought you would have realize that.

However, if someones behavior is not hurting or harming anyone else, who cares.

Also, 2 men kissing, which is why you initially started this thread is much different than someone going to a funeral in their underwear. If you cant see the difference, you're an idiot.

So you are against peeing in public solely because of health and sanitary reasons? What health risks are done when someone pees in the bushes? Has anyone ever gotten sick because of that? If it was done in what you define in a sanitary manner -- say we put toilet bowls right next to a bus stop would you be for people publicly relieving themselves as long as it is sanitary and they flushed? Are you against people walking their dogs and having them pee in public?

And once again, it was YOU that made the claim that you don't care what anybody does in public. You do care and were simply lying to yourself. Wearing underwear at a funeral harms no one physically. There are many forms of inappropriate and indecent behavior that doesn't physically harm anyone. It's the lost sense of propriety, consideration and decency I'm talking about.

And I can see the personal attacks coming out. That didn't take long. Your anger and frustration is palatable.

And I'm the horrible debater. Keep trying.  
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: SF1900 on February 27, 2012, 09:51:22 PM
A behavior being accepted has nothing to do with harm, it has to do with the circumstance in which the behavior is displayed.

And who decides those circumstances? Okay, I agree that certain circumstances might lend itself to certain behaviors, but even that is more subjective. More people would agree that a behavior is unacceptable if it causes harm to others.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 09:53:23 PM
Liberalism is truly training the masses to accept everything that will be coming in the future without question.

A behavior being accepted has nothing to do with harm, it has to do with the circumstance in which the behavior is displayed.

You fellas sound like you believe in capital punishment and private gun ownership.



Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: chaos on February 27, 2012, 09:58:00 PM
And who decides those circumstances? Okay, I agree that certain circumstances might lend itself to certain behaviors, but even that is more subjective. More people would agree that a behavior is unacceptable if it causes harm to others.
Boils down to what some people find offensive or immoral, not just harmful.

You're hanging out with some buddys at a bar, you see two dudes in the corner kiss, who gives a shit right?
You're sitting down eating with your kids and the two dudes in the booth across from you start kissing....YOU may not find it offensive, but some people might. The circumstances are different and some people would expect a little decency in public displays of affection.


To answer your question, society as a whole decides those circumstances, as well as what is immoral or offensive. And to be quite honest, the majority of society is silent on these types of subjects so as not to be labeled by the minority that screams the loudest. ;)
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 10:03:02 PM
And who decides those circumstances? Okay, I agree that certain circumstances might lend itself to certain behaviors, but even that is more subjective. More people would agree that a behavior is unacceptable if it causes harm to others.

The same people who have always decided. US! I'm arguing and fighting against the steady lowering of our standards of decency. There use to be a time when a teenage girl didn't get pregnant not because of any religious or criminal restrictions. They were deterred by a sense of shame and family honor. It reflected terribly on a family who had their 15 year old girl pregnant. There was a sense of shame and dishonor. The idea of men making out in public was unheard of just a generation ago. I think that is a bad thing. You obviously don't. The cultural battle continues. And I have to admit, though you are losing this argument, you're side is winning the cultural battle. Congratulations. You really think you are making this a more better and decent society.

But for me it's not only about winning and losing. But about fighting for what I think is right.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: bike nut on February 27, 2012, 10:03:39 PM
There use to be these concepts called propriety, modesty, decency, consideration. I know people are different. I get that. But does it have to be thrown in our faces and crammed down our throats everyday? Every fucking day.

Remember that pic of the nurse kissing the sailor after the end of WW2 in Times Square?

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ9XRuvHdR-Tb8zVu11GObRuF_ZCKD7POV3IYYcW5Z-IWqQS7c8)

This is what we have become now.

I so want this cesspool of a planet to end already.

(http://media.staradvertiser.com/images/312*416/20120227_marines_kissing.jpg)

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/Gay_Marine_homecoming_picture.html?id=140626293

Excerpt from the article:

The vast majority of the comments have been supportive.

Tim Chung said, "Thank you for your service. Welcome home. You are so brave for doing that, especially on military property. In that setting, wow what a terrific day!"  
 

Ahhh look....just a couple "elfs" happy to see each other.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: chaos on February 27, 2012, 10:04:40 PM
You fellas sound like you believe in capital punishment and private gun ownership.




I have been known to possess a gun or two. :)
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: BIG ACH on February 27, 2012, 10:07:15 PM
Pellius - this is the best thing about America... that they are FREE to do that!!  In some other countries they would be executed for doing that... Thats what sets this great country apart...

Who cares, if they are gay and making out.... doesn't effect anyone but them!  As far as I'm concerned that guy just came back from war... what I imagine is one of the hardest thing for anyone to endure.... Let him celebrate like any straight couple could when they finally arrive back to their homeland!  

He's not hurting anyone in the process!  

Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 10:08:40 PM
Boils down to what some people find offensive or immoral, not just harmful.

You're hanging out with some buddys at a bar, you see two dudes in the corner kiss, who gives a shit right?
You're sitting down eating with your kids and the two dudes in the booth across from you start kissing....YOU may not find it offensive, but some people might. The circumstances are different and some people would expect a little decency in public displays of affection.


To answer your question, society as a whole decides those circumstances, as well as what is immoral or offensive. And to be quite honest, the majority of society is silent on these types of subjects so as not to be labeled by the minority that screams the loudest. ;)

End of thread.

Of all the virtues that a man can aspire to: be it generosity, compassion, honesty -- even goodness -- it is courage that is most rare. People always SAY what they will do in certain situations when they see things that they know are simply not right. But in reality they do nothing. They sit in silence and hope someone else speaks up. Someone else will do something. Maybe then they will join in. Most times not. They are afraid. Simply afraid.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: StanZoLOL on February 27, 2012, 10:11:35 PM
Damn, I think I'd rather stay in a warzone than come home to a cock in the ass.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 10:13:12 PM
Pellius - this is the best thing about America... that they are FREE to do that!!  In some other countries they would be executed for doing that... Thats what sets this great country apart...

Who cares, if they are gay and making out.... doesn't effect anyone but them!  As far as I'm concerned that guy just came back from war... what I imagine is one of the hardest thing for anyone to endure.... Let him celebrate like any straight couple could when they finally arrive back to their homeland!  

He's not hurting anyone in the process!  



Again I'm not even remotely imply that we should pass laws against men kissing in public. But with freedom comes responsibility. You're young. I'm old. I've lived, experienced and compared different generations -- the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000+. Maybe to you seeing your son hand in hand with a boy is no different than seeing him hand in hand with a girl. To me there is a difference.

I do not think this society and culture is getting better.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Stavios on February 27, 2012, 10:17:14 PM
It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye cause another dude poke it with his cock
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 27, 2012, 10:26:55 PM
You fellas sound like you believe in capital punishment and private gun ownership.







Yup. Picked up a new rifle today.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 10:31:18 PM
I also want to make something crystal clear regarding homosexuality. I distinguish between the person and the behavior. I don't personally have any problems with someone being gay but what I am against is the gay agenda. To equate homosexuality with heterosexuality. I consider homosexuality to be below heterosexuality. But that I mean that all else being equal being heterosexual is BETTER than being homosexual. Now I know this declaration many will find shocking and accuse me of being JUDGMENTAL. But I am part of that declining generation that still believes in passing judgment. To determine and openly declare that some things are better than others.

Now this in no means is a judgment on a gay person's humanity. His goodness as a person. That is an entirely separate issue. There are many good homos out there and many horrible heteros. Way more so because of sheer numbers. But if my son were about to be born and God told me that it would be completely up to me to determine whether he turns out gay or straight. I would not toss a coin. I'd want him to straight. I would want him to be attracted to women. I think being heterosexual is better than being homosexual. But if he should turn out gay it's not like I'm going to suffocate him with a pillow at night. I will still love him as I would love a straight son. But I would not lie to myself and say I wouldn't have preferred that he turned out straight.  
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 10:32:21 PM


Yup. Picked up a new rifle today.

What kind and what State do you live in?
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: hangclean on February 27, 2012, 10:40:12 PM
This guy "Pellius" is upset about gay people kissing in public, yet he spends half his life on a message board where he refers to himself as an "elf".
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 10:55:33 PM
This guy "Pellius" is upset about gay people kissing in public, yet he spends half his life on a message board where he refers to himself as an "elf".

Now you're concerned about how I spend my life.

Another closet homo.

Awesome analogy, btw.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: hangclean on February 27, 2012, 11:03:52 PM
Now you're concerned about how I spend my life.

Another closet homo.

Awesome analogy, btw.

My analogy pertains to how fucking gay it is to think you are an "elf".
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 11:25:52 PM
My analogy pertains to how fucking gay it is to think you are an "elf".


I don't care what you think. I've read a lot of your posts here. You are not a thinking person. You are not an intelligent person. Elf's get PMs all the time wanting access to strango and nordic. They want to know the latest on Kamikaze. What happened to EM? Is DL still gtg? Can I write a reference to a mod. Nobody cares about you. To you elfs are gay. Men tongue sucking in public is fine.

Sucks to be you.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: outby43 on February 27, 2012, 11:42:15 PM
The world would be a better place if they were like Pellius.  He has honor, pride and wisdom.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 11:48:58 PM
The world would be a better place if they were like Pellius.  He has honor, pride and wisdom.

And lots of guns.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: outby43 on February 27, 2012, 11:52:59 PM
And lots of guns.

You ever run into Dog the Bounty hunter over there?
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 27, 2012, 11:56:45 PM
You ever run into Dog the Bounty hunter over there?

Actually, yes. On a very business like level. Had to call into the office everyday or they would call me. It was very important at the time that we had daily contact. Some of the guns I owned at the time played a factor.

And I'm not kidding.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: A Professional on February 28, 2012, 12:02:40 AM
Pellius:
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I'm not talking about passing laws about a couple of fags wet mouthing it in public. There use to be this concept called stigma. You just didn't do or act in certain ways because the public simply didn't accept it. No need for laws. That's why you don't show up in your underwear at a funeral. Nobody is going to arrest you if you do but you don't do it because you know it's aberrant behavior and not acceptable. The concept of propriety is lost. It stems from the sixties revolution where it became "If it feels good do it." To hell what other people think. Only you matter.


Good post Pellius.
I agree that there shouldn't be laws passed against it; but I also miss when people 'self-regulated'.
Now we have degenerates like Tbombz running around shouting proudly that they bent over and took it up the ass for their sugar daddies.
Sick world.

Chaos:
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Boils down to what some people find offensive or immoral, not just harmful.

You're hanging out with some buddys at a bar, you see two dudes in the corner kiss, who gives a shit right?
You're sitting down eating with your kids and the two dudes in the booth across from you start kissing....YOU may not find it offensive, but some people might. The circumstances are different and some people would expect a little decency in public displays of affection.


To answer your question, society as a whole decides those circumstances, as well as what is immoral or offensive. And to be quite honest, the majority of society is silent on these types of subjects so as not to be labeled by the minority that screams the loudest.


I agree. It's contextual. But I think it's gone too far in general.

Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: hangclean on February 28, 2012, 12:35:52 AM
I don't care what you think. I've read a lot of your posts here. You are not a thinking person. You are not an intelligent person. Elf's get PMs all the time wanting access to strango and nordic. They want to know the latest on Kamikaze. What happened to EM? Is DL still gtg? Can I write a reference to a mod. Nobody cares about you. To you elfs are gay. Men tongue sucking in public is fine.

Sucks to be you.
LOL!!!!  I feel sorry for all those people who need to rely on an "elf" to get half decent gear.  If it does indeed make you feel better about yourself, then go for it.  I still simply can't understand the hatred you have toward gay people.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: StanZoLOL on February 28, 2012, 12:40:42 AM
Now we have degenerates like Tbombz running around shouting proudly that they bent over and took it up the ass for their sugar daddies.

Maybe the internet's "fault" for giving pieces of crap like him a voice? He probably wouldn't shout it so proud IRL.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 28, 2012, 12:51:17 AM
LOL!!!!  I feel sorry for all those people who need to rely on an "elf" to get half decent gear.  If it does indeed make you feel better about yourself, then go for it.  I still simply can't understand the hatred you have toward gay people.

When I insult someone like I insulted you. When I called you an unthinking and unintelligent person. I don't say that just to say it. Just to insult you. I said it, and specifically stated so, based on previous posts that you make on this board. This is a perfect example.

Read again, moron. And you are a moron.

I also want to make something crystal clear regarding homosexuality. I distinguish between the person and the behavior. I don't personally have any problems with someone being gay but what I am against is the gay agenda. To equate homosexuality with heterosexuality. I consider homosexuality to be below heterosexuality. But that I mean that all else being equal being heterosexual is BETTER than being homosexual. Now I know this declaration many will find shocking and accuse me of being JUDGMENTAL. But I am part of that declining generation that still believes in passing judgment. To determine and openly declare that some things are better than others.

Now this in no means is a judgment on a gay person's humanity. His goodness as a person. That is an entirely separate issue. There are many good homos out there and many horrible heteros. Way more so because of sheer numbers. But if my son were about to be born and God told me that it would be completely up to me to determine whether he turns out gay or straight. I would not toss a coin. I'd want him to straight. I would want him to be attracted to women. I think being heterosexual is better than being homosexual. But if he should turn out gay it's not like I'm going to suffocate him with a pillow at night. I will still love him as I would love a straight son. But I would not lie to myself and say I wouldn't have preferred that he turned out straight.  
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: hangclean on February 28, 2012, 01:09:27 AM
When I insult someone like I insulted you. When I called you an unthinking and unintelligent person. I don't say that just to say it. Just to insult you. I said it, and specifically stated so, based on previous posts that you make on this board. This is a perfect example.

Read again, moron. And you are a moron.
 
You are right, actually......I am not an intelligent person and I never claimed to be.  I do believe you have some kind of hatred toward homosexuality, however.........your post proving you don't here actually proves the opposite to me, but really, it doesn't matter. 
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Mitch on February 28, 2012, 01:17:57 AM
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It's not a matter of who's fault. Bodybuilding, schmoes sexually attracted to muscular men and jerking off with each other, represents anywhere from 2-4% of the population. It's by definition aberrant behavior. It should be kept on the DL just out of a sense of decency. The bodybuilding agenda is to make it seem quite normal and even chic.
True!  >:(
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 28, 2012, 01:22:14 AM
You are right, actually......I am not an intelligent person and I never claimed to be.  I do believe you have some kind of hatred toward homosexuality, however.........your post proving you don't here actually proves the opposite to me, but really, it doesn't matter.  

So saying that I don't have a problem with gays per se and don't consider it a statement on their humanity proves to you that I hate gays?

So if I said that being gay is a moral testament to their humanity. That by virtue of being gay they are by definition incapable of being a good person you would take that to mean that I don't hate gays?

Or it doesn't matter what I say and you have simply unilaterally and arbitrarily determined I hate gays because I don't think they should be making out in public.

At least you have some awareness of your lack of intelligence. This is different from being ignorant. Being ignorant is simply lacking information or knowledge. You just seem to be deficient in fundamental cognitive ability.

And issues like these does matter. They matter a lot. They determine where we are headed as a society and culture. It is simply you that doesn't matter because you just lack the intellectual capacity, perspective, self awareness, ability to extrapolate and learn from past history to make any difference.

Carry on with your vapid, narcissistic, self-absorb, empty life of nothingness. In a way I almost envy you. To be so blissfully stupid.

.  
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: DBX on February 28, 2012, 01:23:00 AM
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: BigCyp on February 28, 2012, 01:27:00 AM
Gayer than a venti white chocolate machiato with semen syrup and rainbow sprinkles
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: hangclean on February 28, 2012, 01:29:14 AM
So saying that I don't have a problem with gays per se and don't consider it a statement on their humanity proves to you that I hate gays?

So if I said that being gay is a moral testament to their humanity. That by virtue of being gay they are by definition incapable of being a good person you would take that to mean that I don't hate gays?

Or it doesn't matter what I say and you have simply unilaterally and arbitrarily determined I hate gays because I don't think they should be making out in public.

At least you have some awareness of your lack of intelligence. This is different from being ignorant. Being ignorant is simply lacking information or knowledge. You just seem to be deficient in fundamental cognitive ability.

And issues like these does matter. They matter a lot. They determine where we are headed as a society and culture. It is simply you that doesn't matter because you just lack the intellectual capacity, perspective, self awareness, ability to extrapolate and learn from past history to make any difference.

Carry on with your vapid, narcissistic, self-absorb, empty life of nothingness. In a way I almost envy you. To be so blissfully stupid.

.  
here is a quote from your post........"There are many good homos out there and many horrible heteros."  That is like the people who say they are not racist, but will use phrases like, "yeah, there are some good n i g g e r s out there and a lot of shitty whites".  To me, it is pretty obvious you are homophobic.  I will stop now and carry on with my narcissistic, self-absorbed, empty life of nothingness......and you can go back to being an elf.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 28, 2012, 02:40:14 AM
But it is a social issue, when they start mind fucking with little kids.  Which they do.

So all that say it is not a social issue are fools.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: wes on February 28, 2012, 04:07:23 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=417003.0;attach=459276;image)

LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: dr.chimps on February 28, 2012, 04:12:49 AM
Meh. This guy is serving his country, risking his life, etc. A fair trade might be for you to rein in the bigotry, over a photo no less, a tad?  Worth considering.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: BigCyp on February 28, 2012, 04:14:11 AM
Meh. This guy is serving his country, risking his life, etc. A fair trade might be for you to rein in the bigotry, over a photo no less, a tad?  Worth considering.

he's also risking his bum on a daily basis though
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: DBX on February 28, 2012, 04:18:04 AM
Meh. This guy is serving his country, risking his life, etc. A fair trade might be for you to rein in the bigotry, over a photo no less, a tad?  Worth considering.
x2 penislust is an ignorant fool
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: BigCyp on February 28, 2012, 04:18:49 AM
x2 penislust is an ignorant fool

hahaha 'penislust'  ;D
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: dr.chimps on February 28, 2012, 04:18:55 AM
he's also risking his bum on a daily basis though
What other people do in their bedrooms doesn't bother me.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: BigCyp on February 28, 2012, 04:22:44 AM
What other people do in their bedrooms doesn't bother me.

That's a good standpoint. It doesn't bother me when people hit their wife in the living room either  ::)



Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: dr.chimps on February 28, 2012, 04:24:27 AM
That's a good standpoint. It doesn't bother me when people hit their wife in the living room either  ::)
One's a consensual act, the other a felony. Good logic.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: BigCyp on February 28, 2012, 04:27:24 AM
One's a consensual act, the other a felony. Good logic.

No, one is digusting and used to be illegal (funnily enough for the history of mankind until about 40 years ago) the other is digusting and still is illegal.

But it's ok drchimps you can continue letting the government and rights activist (minorities) dictate your thoughts.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Bonobo on February 28, 2012, 04:27:38 AM
What has this world come to?

Well i can tell you that it didnt chance that much lol...the romans were openly bisexual...they used to fuck women and men ...nobody cared in that time!
Just give it a century ot two and all will be like roman times... ;D
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: dr.chimps on February 28, 2012, 04:32:40 AM
No, one is digusting and used to be illegal (funnily enough for the history of mankind until about 40 years ago) the other is digusting and still is illegal.

But it's ok drchimps you can continue letting the government and rights activist (minorities) dictate your thoughts.
Like the fighter out on his feet. Just keep swinging and missing.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: BigCyp on February 28, 2012, 04:45:04 AM
What has this world come to?

Well i can tell you that it didnt chance that much lol...the romans were openly bisexual...they used to fuck women and men ...nobody cared in that time!
Just give it a century ot two and all will be like roman times... ;D

outed
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Bonobo on February 28, 2012, 04:49:50 AM
outed

Lol...you know you want me!.. ;)
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: bradistani on February 28, 2012, 05:23:34 AM
nowt wrong with a bit of same sex show of affection.... as long as its the lezzers showing the affection  :P 



he seems a bit more manly here



 :-X

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/27/article-2107338-11F31549000005DC-466_468x545.jpg)
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: DeltsaForce on February 28, 2012, 05:23:36 AM
That guy is a hero. He is fighting for his country and the frontline between us and the hoards that wish to destroy out FREEDOM and way of life. If he wants to kiss his man then I say "you earnt it, marine".

Maybe he should be a real man and shave his body hair, take drugs, and post semi-nude pics for online males and call himself an "elf" and serve as a forum subordinate to a man pretending to be an IFBB pro bodybuild?
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 28, 2012, 05:29:26 AM
So I wonder how many of these fags join the forces to meet other men?  I bet heaps of them.  US army is now like a gay version of the YMCA fitness clubs.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: DeltsaForce on February 28, 2012, 05:33:08 AM
So I wonder how many of these fags join the forces to meet other men?  I bet heaps of them.  US army is now like a gay version of the YMCA fitness clubs.

Don't be fooled because he like the cauk; that marine could snap your neck like a breadstick and you wouldn't stand a fucking chance against him. You'd be his bitch.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 28, 2012, 05:36:56 AM
Recruiting advertisements in 2015...

(http://gaydoune.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/gay-in-uniform-porn-military.jpg)
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: BigCyp on February 28, 2012, 05:47:43 AM
Recruiting advertisements in 2015...

(http://gaydoune.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/gay-in-uniform-porn-military.jpg)

LOL @ the steady increase of tribal ink up the line  :D
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Radical Plato on February 28, 2012, 06:16:47 AM
The world is so intolerant, I want to marry a horse, but god darnit, it isn't legal, fuckin racists in Parliment taking away my right to shag and marry horses.  Shagging horses may not seem normal to others, but they dont understand, I was born that way, I just have always been attracted to horses, it's not my fault I need to feel a huge horse cock between my arse cheeks, society should just grow up, and let a man marry a rock if he wants - for now I will just love and shag my horse in quiet!

Faggo+s Please
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: bradistani on February 28, 2012, 06:38:58 AM
Recruiting advertisements in 2015...

(http://gaydoune.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/gay-in-uniform-porn-military.jpg)
LOL @ the steady increase of tribal ink up the line  :D

looks like spurs getting raped by arsenal  :D
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: supernick on February 28, 2012, 07:14:02 AM
fucking horrible,,,,just sick :(
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Tito24 on February 28, 2012, 07:24:05 AM
(http://cl.jroo.me/z3/d/i/r/d/a.aaa-Stupid-Guy.jpg)
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Dr Dutch on February 28, 2012, 07:43:34 AM
(http://www.home.zonnet.nl/bloemberg1/ffv/mabel7.jpg)
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Irongrip400 on February 28, 2012, 07:57:40 AM
I'm not reading through four pages, and I'm sure someone posted it, but anytime you have someone getting their head cut off and it's on YouTube , I think it's safe to say it this world sucks.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Bonobo on February 28, 2012, 09:06:45 AM
(http://www.home.zonnet.nl/bloemberg1/ffv/mabel7.jpg)

I know for a fact that one of these guys will never ski again!.... :D
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: BigCyp on February 28, 2012, 09:15:38 AM
looks like spurs getting raped by arsenal  :D

Shit!!!! if you were here I would pretent to strangle you right now  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: wes on February 28, 2012, 09:19:50 AM
I'm not reading through four pages, and I'm sure someone posted it, but anytime you have someone getting their head cut off and it's on YouTube , I think it's safe to say it this world sucks.
Good post.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: cart@@n on February 28, 2012, 09:32:52 AM
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: bradistani on February 28, 2012, 09:35:58 AM
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: hematocritter on February 28, 2012, 09:40:31 AM
Good post.
I agree.

I was really disturbed by the still clip of the chainsaw execution that someone posted recently, but it was just an everyday image to most people on here.
Is everyone really that used to such disturbing shit?
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 28, 2012, 09:45:41 AM
y? because it happens in public instead of private?

YES!!! But if a Christian professes his faith in public they are chastised. What sense does that make?
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Jaime on February 28, 2012, 10:34:12 AM
I find Pellius pretty disgusting at the best of times.

Nightmare creature.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: bradistani on February 28, 2012, 01:26:51 PM
grrrrrrrrr.. i'm outraged  >:(

(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzu0emAdPj1rod0h5o1_500.gif)
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzu0emAdPj1rod0h5o2_500.gif)
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: bigmc on February 28, 2012, 01:28:50 PM
hot women kissing is the best thing ever

fact
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: tbombz on February 28, 2012, 01:43:12 PM
One's a consensual act, the other a felony. Good logic.
because something is illegal doesnt mean its wrong.  because a person unnecessarily hurts another is what makes something wrong.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: tbombz on February 28, 2012, 01:53:25 PM
I also want to make something crystal clear regarding homosexuality. I distinguish between the person and the behavior. I don't personally have any problems with someone being gay but what I am against is the gay agenda. To equate homosexuality with heterosexuality. I consider homosexuality to be below heterosexuality. But that I mean that all else being equal being heterosexual is BETTER than being homosexual. Now I know this declaration many will find shocking and accuse me of being JUDGMENTAL. But I am part of that declining generation that still believes in passing judgment. To determine and openly declare that some things are better than others.

Now this in no means is a judgment on a gay person's humanity. His goodness as a person. That is an entirely separate issue. There are many good homos out there and many horrible heteros. Way more so because of sheer numbers. But if my son were about to be born and God told me that it would be completely up to me to determine whether he turns out gay or straight. I would not toss a coin. I'd want him to straight. I would want him to be attracted to women. I think being heterosexual is better than being homosexual. But if he should turn out gay it's not like I'm going to suffocate him with a pillow at night. I will still love him as I would love a straight son. But I would not lie to myself and say I wouldn't have preferred that he turned out straight.  

this is the first good post ive seen from you on the issue.

is being hetero better than being bi or homo? ya know what, i think it is. and i think most gay and bi people would agree with you. we don't like all the negative attention, the discrimination, the inability to marry, the inability to have children together.  we would much rather be in a world where the people we were attracted to were completely compatible with us in every regard - not just emotionally and spiritually but in our ability to be together in public, reproduce, etc. 

on the whole passing judgement thing..  one can say a behavior is good, or bad, or better or worse. that isnt the usual definition of judgement.  judgement normally refers to, in this context, judging a person as a good or bad person for behaving a certain way.

Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Cutlet767 on February 28, 2012, 01:57:16 PM
The fact that you care so much is evidence of your deep rooted self loathing for what you truly are. An ass pirate.

And I'm serious about this. The fact that it bothers you this much can only mean you are a homo yourself. And the sad thing is, you may never admit it to yourself, let alone to others.

That guy is a hero. He is fighting for his country and the frontline between us and the hoards that wish to destroy out FREEDOM and way of life. If he wants to kiss his man then I say "you earnt it, marine".

Maybe he should be a real man and shave his body hair, take drugs, and post semi-nude pics for online males and call himself an "elf" and serve as a forum subordinate to a man pretending to be an IFBB pro bodybuild?


 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: el numero uno on February 28, 2012, 02:03:12 PM
grrrrrrrrr.. i'm outraged  >:(

(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzu0emAdPj1rod0h5o1_500.gif)
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzu0emAdPj1rod0h5o2_500.gif)

Lol, I know some lesbians and they all are fat and ugly. That wouldn't be pretty lol.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: tbombz on February 28, 2012, 02:04:52 PM
your argument in this thread has mainly been that you think certain things should be done in private.

so why is the first photo of two people kissing ok but the second one not?

is it ok for a man and a woman to have sex on the street?

where do you draw the line on acceptable public behavior?



There use to be these concepts called propriety, modesty, decency, consideration. I know people are different. I get that. But does it have to be thrown in our faces and crammed down our throats everyday? Every fucking day.

Remember that pic of the nurse kissing the sailor after the end of WW2 in Times Square?

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ9XRuvHdR-Tb8zVu11GObRuF_ZCKD7POV3IYYcW5Z-IWqQS7c8)

This is what we have become now.

I so want this cesspool of a planet to end already.

(http://media.staradvertiser.com/images/312*416/20120227_marines_kissing.jpg)

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/Gay_Marine_homecoming_picture.html?id=140626293

Excerpt from the article:

The vast majority of the comments have been supportive.

Tim Chung said, "Thank you for your service. Welcome home. You are so brave for doing that, especially on military property. In that setting, wow what a terrific day!"  
 


is it ok for a man and a woman to have sex on the street?

where do you draw the line on acceptable public behavior?





So you are against peeing in public solely because of health and sanitary reasons? What health risks are done when someone pees in the bushes? Has anyone ever gotten sick because of that? If it was done in what you define in a sanitary manner -- say we put toilet bowls right next to a bus stop would you be for people publicly relieving themselves as long as it is sanitary and they flushed? Are you against people walking their dogs and having them pee in public?

And once again, it was YOU that made the claim that you don't care what anybody does in public. You do care and were simply lying to yourself. Wearing underwear at a funeral harms no one physically. There are many forms of inappropriate and indecent behavior that doesn't physically harm anyone. It's the lost sense of propriety, consideration and decency I'm talking about.

And I can see the personal attacks coming out. That didn't take long. Your anger and frustration is palatable.

And I'm the horrible debater. Keep trying.  

you are arguing on a slippery slope basis. that if we allow one behavior that is considered to be indecent that we ought to allow all behaviors that are considered as such.

and you think that this shows that we shouldnt let any indecent behavior be allowed.

but i think its quite the opposite. you ask if we should let someone pee in the bushes in public. i ask you, why not? does the birds in the air not shit all over our streets everyday? does the bear in the woods not pee whereever he sees fit? do the rabbits in the forest not have intercourse out in the open, completely naked?  

what man considers indecent he considers so because of thousands of years of repression and oppression, thousands of years of people telling us that we ought be ashamed of our bodies, that we ought abstain from sexual affection, that we must never partake in pleasures, that we ought to only say this word but never say that word. blah blah blah.

whatever is natural , is natural. we are all naked. we all defecate, urinate, ejaculate.  why some people feel the need to tell the world that we should all act as if we are not what we truly are, pretend that our genitals dont exist, pretend that our shit doesnt stink, pretend that we dont get turned on by each other...     whatever the reason.. its sad.

i can only imagine how great the world would be if no one felt any negativity towards other people, and nobody ever inhibited anyone else from behaving however they chose unless they were choosing to behave in a manner harmful to others.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 28, 2012, 02:04:53 PM
I can see why you would get upset.  I do too at times but I always remember I cannot control what others do and it is none of my business how others live. 


I agree.

Admittedly, looking at that scene kinda disgusts me but like you said, Im only in charge of my own life and nothing that their doing is going to cause me irreparable damage, so I dont really care.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: tbombz on February 28, 2012, 02:06:40 PM
The fact that you care so much is evidence of your deep rooted self loathing for what you truly are. An ass pirate.

And I'm serious about this. The fact that it bothers you this much can only mean you are a homo yourself. And the sad thing is, you may never admit it to yourself, let alone to others.


 :D :D :D
     ;D   ;D   ;D    the fact is, the majority of people who are outspokenly against homosexuality are doing so as a rebellion against homosexual desires they have inside themselves but are ashamed of.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Cutlet767 on February 28, 2012, 02:10:05 PM
     ;D   ;D   ;D    the fact is, the majority of people who are outspokenly against homosexuality are doing so as a rebellion against homosexual desires they have inside themselves but are ashamed of.

Judging by the pictures he has posted of himself, it's very easy to see this guy has sucked a good deal of cocks in his life, and then most likely felt disgusted with himself afterward and threatened the other guy.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: DBX on February 28, 2012, 03:05:36 PM
I find Pellius pretty disgusting at the best of times.

Nightmare creature.
hes a closet case himself , he struggles with his sexuality , every times he see's  gays it stirs his own self loathing , why do you think he is 50 years old with no kids and no wife ?
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: johnnynoname on February 28, 2012, 03:07:26 PM
     ;D   ;D   ;D    the fact is, the majority of people who are outspokenly against homosexuality are doing so as a rebellion against homosexual desires they have inside themselves but are ashamed of.



settle down, faggot
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Jaime on February 28, 2012, 03:08:52 PM
hes a closet case himself , he struggles with his sexuality , every times he see's  gays it stirs his own self loathing , why do you think he is 50 years old with no kids and no wife ?


Spends most of his time rolling around on the mat with sweaty guys...
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: dr.chimps on February 28, 2012, 03:15:20 PM
settle down, faggot
Easy, Smoky. We should be nurturing our budding internet diploma-seeking future-Walmart greeter Nobelist.   
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Irongrip400 on February 28, 2012, 05:49:11 PM
I agree.

I was really disturbed by the still clip of the chainsaw execution that someone posted recently, but it was just an everyday image to most people on here.
Is everyone really that used to such disturbing shit?

I think people are just Becoming more desensitized, or the internet is just bringing to light how sick things are in developing countries. It's like at the end of No Country For Old Men, when the two old guys are talking about the gruesomeness of everything, and the other old man gives him an example of something that happened along time ago that was just as bad. I think we are just getting older maybe. Either way, I don't enjoy watching death on my WHYI threads!
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: haider on February 28, 2012, 05:50:18 PM
Damn, I think I'd rather stay in a warzone than come home to a cock in the ass.
LOL!
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 29, 2012, 02:47:04 AM
your argument in this thread has mainly been that you think certain things should be done in private.

so why is the first photo of two people kissing ok but the second one not?

Because I believe homosexual behavior to be abnormal

is it ok for a man and a woman to have sex on the street?

No

where do you draw the line on acceptable public behavior?

In the words of United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart, " "I know it when I see it"

 
you are arguing on a slippery slope basis. that if we allow one behavior that is considered to be indecent that we ought to allow all behaviors that are considered as such.

No, I was pointing out the fallacy of SF's argument that as long as a behavior doesn't physically hurt anyone it's OK. But the slippery slope argument does have some merit. As standards continue to decline behavior that was once considered unacceptable now becomes not only acceptable and common place but even encourage.

and you think that this shows that we shouldnt let any indecent behavior be allowed.

but i think its quite the opposite. you ask if we should let someone pee in the bushes in public. i ask you, why not? does the birds in the air not shit all over our streets everyday? does the bear in the woods not pee whereever he sees fit? do the rabbits in the forest not have intercourse out in the open, completely naked?  

Because we are not animals. We don't walk around naked, have sex in public, crap on the streets. We have a moral sense, a sense of decency, conscious, a self-awareness that animals lack. There is a growing trend to equal humans with animals. I do not subscribe to this trend.

what man considers indecent he considers so because of thousands of years of repression and oppression, thousands of years of people telling us that we ought be ashamed of our bodies, that we ought abstain from sexual affection, that we must never partake in pleasures, that we ought to only say this word but never say that word. blah blah blah.

Not walking around naked does not mean being ashamed of our bodies. Do you really think it would be a good thing and elevate man and society if we walked around naked? Discouraging self-indulgence is not the same as NEVER partaking in pleasure. A hedonistic life style is inherently corrupting. Look at movie stars and others of their ilk where everything and anything is available to them.

whatever is natural , is natural. we are all naked. we all defecate, urinate, ejaculate.  why some people feel the need to tell the world that we should all act as if we are not what we truly are, pretend that our genitals dont exist, pretend that our shit doesnt stink, pretend that we dont get turned on by each other...     whatever the reason.. its sad.

I don't believe this is the general consensus among the majority

i can only imagine how great the world would be if no one felt any negativity towards other people, and nobody ever inhibited anyone else from behaving however they chose unless they were choosing to behave in a manner harmful to others.

LOL! I know you don't believe in God and think it's silly that I do but I will tell you this: when I stand before God on my day of judgment I will asked him that since he is omnipotent, that he can do anything he wants, create anything he wants... why did he make such a cruel, miserable and wicked world where so many innocent people have to suffer and so many wicked people prosper? Why a lion has to rip open the belly of a zebra to survive? Why so much needless suffering? Is this really the best he could do?

As I've said before, a much more interesting question and subject for debate is not whether or not God exists but is he good?
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 29, 2012, 02:49:11 AM
hes a closet case himself , he struggles with his sexuality , every times he see's  gays it stirs his own self loathing , why do you think he is 50 years old with no kids and no wife ?

Keep dreaming phaggot! And I think one would be crazy to get married and have children in today's world. Please don't tell me a piece of shit like yourself has actually reproduced?
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 29, 2012, 02:50:13 AM

Spends most of his time rolling around on the mat with sweaty guys...

Which I'm sure you furiously jack off to.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on February 29, 2012, 02:58:00 AM
this is the first good post ive seen from you on the issue.

is being hetero better than being bi or homo? ya know what, i think it is. and i think most gay and bi people would agree with you. we don't like all the negative attention, the discrimination, the inability to marry, the inability to have children together.  we would much rather be in a world where the people we were attracted to were completely compatible with us in every regard - not just emotionally and spiritually but in our ability to be together in public, reproduce, etc. 

on the whole passing judgement thing..  one can say a behavior is good, or bad, or better or worse. that isnt the usual definition of judgement.  judgement normally refers to, in this context, judging a person as a good or bad person for behaving a certain way.



I know I bust your balls here (don't get excited queer), and I will continue to do so, but you're a thinking person and I like that. I think you are a bit lost and still searching and trying to find your way and that is a good thing. But at least you think and ponder and wonder. You're not a mindless drone just going through the motions of life without stopping every now and then and ask, "What does this all mean?" I actually think we would get along in real life. But in the mean time try to figure out the least painful way to kill yourself.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: tbombz on February 29, 2012, 04:06:47 PM
LOL! I know you don't believe in God and think it's silly that I do but I will tell you this: when I stand before God on my day of judgment I will asked him that since he is omnipotent, that he can do anything he wants, create anything he wants... why did he make such a cruel, miserable and wicked world where so many innocent people have to suffer and so many wicked people prosper? Why a lion has to rip open the belly of a zebra to survive? Why so much needless suffering? Is this really the best he could do?

As I've said before, a much more interesting question and subject for debate is not whether or not God exists but is he good?
i think god exists.

and i think if god exists he most definitely is good.


i have written endlessly about my thoughts on those questions.  ill try to give a brief summary.

 if god exists, then i do not think life ends when we die, but in some sense that is when life begins. lif eon this earth, from the moment we are born and start to learn and live.. this life would be a testing ground, a development area for new souls to learn how to become mature, good, benevolent souls. to learn how to be a good friend. to experience pain and suffering and sorrow in order to learn to appreciate happiness and pleasure and comfort.  the "evils" of this world would be in place for us to experience negatives so that when we enter gods kingdom we can work to maintain the infinite positivity.

or soemthing like that.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Radical Plato on February 29, 2012, 06:54:24 PM
your argument in this thread has mainly been that you think certain things should be done in private.

so why is the first photo of two people kissing ok but the second one not? Because two lesos getting it on is wank material

is it ok for a man and a woman to have sex on the street? Only if I can watch

where do you draw the line on acceptable public behavior? Man woman Kissing = Good / Man/Man Kissing = Bad



you are arguing on a slippery slope basis. that if we allow one behavior that is considered to be indecent that we ought to allow all behaviors that are considered as such.

and you think that this shows that we shouldnt let any indecent behavior be allowed.

but i think its quite the opposite. you ask if we should let someone pee in the bushes in public. i ask you, why not? does the birds in the air not shit all over our streets everyday? does the bear in the woods not pee whereever he sees fit? do the rabbits in the forest not have intercourse out in the open, completely naked?  

what man considers indecent he considers so because of thousands of years of repression and oppression, thousands of years of people telling us that we ought be ashamed of our bodies, that we ought abstain from sexual affection, that we must never partake in pleasures, that we ought to only say this word but never say that word. blah blah blah.

whatever is natural , is natural. we are all naked. we all defecate, urinate, ejaculate.  why some people feel the need to tell the world that we should all act as if we are not what we truly are, pretend that our genitals dont exist, pretend that our shit doesnt stink, pretend that we dont get turned on by each other...     whatever the reason.. its sad.

i can only imagine how great the world would be if no one felt any negativity towards other people, and nobody ever inhibited anyone else from behaving however they chose unless they were choosing to behave in a manner harmful to others.

Where in nature do males of the species go around banging each other in the arse, even though some animals display homosexual behaviour, I dont think they fuck each other in the arse.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: tonymctones on February 29, 2012, 07:53:50 PM
I dont really care if ppl are gay and want to express themselves but I agree with pellius on the fact that it shouldnt be looked at as normal or normalized. The fact is its an abnormal behavior and shouldnt be portrayed as a normal part of everyday life like the gay activist would like it to be.

 
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: tbombz on February 29, 2012, 11:51:06 PM

Where in nature do males of the species go around banging each other in the arse, even though some animals display homosexual behaviour, I dont think they fuck each other in the arse.

first..    find me an animal that cooks its food, reads books, drives an automobile, or who exercises for cosmetic reasons ..


secondly..  yes, many different kind of animals have been observed to engage in homosexual anal intercourse..

Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: Radical Plato on March 01, 2012, 12:16:21 AM
    ;D   ;D   ;D    the fact is, the majority of people who are outspokenly against homosexuality are doing so as a rebellion against homosexual desires they have inside themselves but are ashamed of.
That tired old cliche that all the old fags come up with in the hope they can sway some poor naive hetero dude. I am an admitted homophobic and i have searched every ounce of my being for some homosexual genetic material, but sorry fags, but man flesh makes me crawl, the very thought sickens me.  It is obvious to me that some men don't feel the same repulsion.  When I was younger I lot of gay dudes used to hit on me, I literally felt sick.  Nothing compares to the soft, warm inviting flesh of a sexy woman.  I think fags just like to fantasize about all the unavailable man meat and make up cliches like homophobes are repressed homo's - Oh Brother, Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on March 01, 2012, 12:40:13 AM
Not enough Ugandan sailors in this thread....
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on March 01, 2012, 01:39:16 AM
i think god exists.

and i think if god exists he most definitely is good.


i have written endlessly about my thoughts on those questions.  ill try to give a brief summary.

 if god exists, then i do not think life ends when we die, but in some sense that is when life begins. lif eon this earth, from the moment we are born and start to learn and live.. this life would be a testing ground, a development area for new souls to learn how to become mature, good, benevolent souls. to learn how to be a good friend. to experience pain and suffering and sorrow in order to learn to appreciate happiness and pleasure and comfort.  the "evils" of this world would be in place for us to experience negatives so that when we enter gods kingdom we can work to maintain the infinite positivity.

or soemthing like that.

I did not know this about you. It shows how easy it is to project one's bias and conclude an incorrect assumption about a person. This is indeed a surprising revelation. Not assuming you care, but you have risen in my opinion. Now I just hold you with a sort of benevolent contempt.

If you should take my advice and kill yourself you can rest assured that I will not piss on your grave.
Title: Re: Seriously, what has this world come to?
Post by: pellius on March 01, 2012, 01:46:55 AM
That tired old cliche that all the old fags come up with in the hope they can sway some poor naive hetero dude. I am an admitted homophobic and i have searched every ounce of my being for some homosexual genetic material, but sorry fags, but man flesh makes me crawl, the very thought sickens me.  It is obvious to me that some men don't feel the same repulsion.  When I was younger I lot of gay dudes used to hit on me, I literally felt sick.  Nothing compares to the soft, warm inviting flesh of a sexy woman.  I think fags just like to fantasize about all the unavailable man meat and make up cliches like homophobes are repressed homo's - Oh Brother, Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EXACTLY! It's come to the point where I don't even ignore those comments. It just doesn't register anymore. "Not supporting the homosexual agenda means you're really a fag. Supporting the homosexual agenda means you're really a fag." These activist queers just so want everybody to be fags. They can't just be content living their own life style. They have to cram it down everybody's throat.

Gay parades -- oh, brother.