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i always wonder who would do such a thing ..?
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me
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Yates
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milos told me that an endocrinologist from university of novi sad in yugoslavia taught him how to use it for muscle engorgement. he then showed Dorian, Nasser, Vince Taylor how to use it.
Tim Belknap was using it in the 80's, but he was a legit diabetic
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MIlos, all the way Milos. Dude was a genious but dangerous. There was another thing he tried but I could never get details. Something like a plasma expander.
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Yates
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( from frozen Silverback Gorilla blood like Titus "the undercoverpro" said ....)
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milos told me that an endocrinologist from university of novi sad in yugoslavia taught him how to use it for muscle engorgement. he then showed Dorian, Nasser, Vince Taylor how to use it.
Tim Belknap was using it in the 80's, but he was a legit diabetic
I was going to mention this. Dude was thick as a cock.
Seems Milos is the first one who really explored and exploited insulin as a PED. He at least got a lot of others to catch on, not that it's anything to be too proud about. It's ruining bodybuilding. A little is fine but bodybuilders aren't really the type to be patient and reserved. Just a bunch of blow up dolls.
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I was going to mention this. Dude was thick as a cock.
Seems Milos is the first one who really explored and exploited insulin as a PED. He at least got a lot of others to catch on, not that it's anything to be too proud about. It's ruining bodybuilding. A little is fine but bodybuilders aren't really the type to be patient and reserved. Just a bunch of blow up dolls.
that was '99 that he explained it to me. i tried it then, first time i got up to 270 at under 5' 10. six months later my buddy says to me, 'what were you on when your ass got really fat??' lol. never did it again.
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I met a guy in the early 90`s when I lived in Florida....dude used a ton of slin and looked like a walking talking parade float.
Seriously ruined his physique.
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milos told me that an endocrinologist from university of novi sad in yugoslavia taught him how to use it for muscle engorgement. he then showed Dorian, Nasser, Vince Taylor how to use it.
Tim Belknap was using it in the 80's, but he was a legit diabetic
I'm of the opinion that it would be someone around Belknap's era, that was when magazines started to really question it's muscle building properties. Also what year did the magazines start talking about insulin abuse as a definite thing? I seem to remember it being discussed like the early 90's. Take that date and subtract a couple of years for it to make it down the grapevine, and you'll have a good timeframe.
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I met a guy in the early 90`s when I lived in Florida....dude used a ton of slin and looked like a walking talking parade float.
Seriously ruined his physique.
I couldn't imagine using it without gh unless you're like 5% bf most of the year than I might try it.
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I couldn't imagine using it without gh unless you're like 5% bf most of the year than I might try it.
This guy was on a ton of stuff...........GH was probably in the mix but when I asked him how he had quickly gained so much size,he told me insulin.
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Tim Belknap!
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milos told me that an endocrinologist from university of novi sad in yugoslavia taught him how to use it for muscle engorgement. he then showed Dorian, Nasser, Vince Taylor how to use it.
Tim Belknap was using it in the 80's, but he was a legit diabetic
lmfao, those bloody serbians
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Piece of shit Milos, I'm not surprised at all ...
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Tim Belknap!
Damn looks awesome
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Damn looks awesome
haha, his criticism at the time was that his waist was blocky.. lol now he looks downright aesthetic
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haha, his criticism at the time was that his waist was blocky.. lol now he looks downright aesthetic
Was just thinking the same thing. Compare him to Branch - he looks like Zane in comparison.
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I was going to mention this. Dude was thick as a cock.
Seems Milos is the first one who really explored and exploited insulin as a PED. He at least got a lot of others to catch on, not that it's anything to be too proud about. It's ruining bodybuilding. A little is fine but bodybuilders aren't really the type to be patient and reserved. Just a bunch of blow up dolls.
Dustin I would be curious to hear what are your thoughts on taking exogenous insulin and accelerated aging? I know insulin is an aging hormone, but in reality it's just another tool we use to decrease protein breakdown, all in all I can't see taking it would cause you to age quickly than if you didn't. If anything it might help you look younger, as when you take a shot of insulin blood glucose never gets too high. And there have been studies showing higher blood glucose levels results in looking older than you are. I like what it does, I have more energy on it, I grow faster with it, I don't get fat on it if I'm on the right steroids either GH or no gh. I just don't want to fuck myself in that department, I already look mid twenties.
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Belknap looks like shit.
I have seen premature babies with wider clavicles than him.
Looks like a little lego block with limbs.
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Belknap looks like shit.
I have seen premature babies with wider clavicles than him.
Looks like a little lego block with limbs.
all true, yet he looks better than branch
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all true, yet he looks better than branch
Oh cruel world. :'(
Branch is like a walking cataclysm.
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Dustin I would be curious to hear what are your thoughts on taking exogenous insulin and accelerated aging? I know insulin is an aging hormone, but in reality it's just another tool we use to decrease protein breakdown, all in all I can't see taking it would cause you to age quickly than if you didn't. If anything it might help you look younger, as when you take a shot of insulin blood glucose never gets too high. And there have been studies showing higher blood glucose levels results in looking older than you are. I like what it does, I have more energy on it, I grow faster with it, I don't get fat on it if I'm on the right steroids either GH or no gh. I just don't want to fuck myself in that department, I already look mid twenties.
I can't say anything with too much certainty, brotha! I remember we had a PM exchange about it maybe a year ago and since then I haven't really learned too much else. I think that having constantly elevated blood glucose is bad because it creates systemic inflammation and probably fucks your body up in other ways too.
I think that probably a diet with a low meal frequency with insulin would be the best. That way when you do need the nutrient uptake, you're using nothing but exogenous insulin and there's a smaller chance of spill over. It's so tough to know what's the exact appropriate amount to eat before some calories are stored as fat. But at least your natural insulin sensitivity would be good, all the other respected hormones are still playing on concert and you have as much control over your eating and hormone regimen as possible.
At the very least that offers a better opportunity to observe and titrate doses, eating patterns, etc. I'm planning on cutting some more fat until it looks like there's nothing but saran wrap covering my abdominals (it's the ONLY place I have any fat for fuck sakes) and once I hold that conditioning long enough I'll start experimenting with insulin again. I used it in the past with success but I think you either need to be on an extreme amount of GH for the best results or be extremely lean. I don't like putting on fat if it can be avoided. Complete waste of time for myself at least.
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Lol. Hello slin was created 1922. Was used by belknap who claimed to be diabetic lots of thought pointing to not however. He trained in 70s and if he was diabetic he was on it than to. There was talk of insulins properitys in 50s to in weight lifters. Do some researching. It seems pretty obvious now that we are still blind and even gh 15 won't discuss slin . I'm sure the old timers were on it to. Well belkap was . 70 80 s . Lots of talk always how haney loved his slin to. If its been around for almost hundred yrs u think bbers wouldn't jump on it. soon as gh was around cadvar they were on it. Soon as sysnhetic gh they were on it. same goes for steroids. Don't doubt they didn't jump the slin bandwagon either. Look at balknaps gut. There is none. No vacuum but no gut. Yet we all say its slin and not gh causing the guts. Yet everyone on here who abuse gh has a gut but don't touch slin cause gh15 says not to. Blp is even protruding hugely he's all gh abuse. Ur hands can grow twice the size but Ur kidneys liver and intestines can't..... Ya use Ur head whoever thinks otherwise.
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Lol. Hello slin was created 1922. Was used by belknap who claimed to be diabetic lots of thought pointing to not however. He trained in 70s and if he was diabetic he was on it than to. There was talk of insulins properitys in 50s to in weight lifters. Do some researching. It seems pretty obvious now that we are still blind and even gh 15 won't discuss slin . I'm sure the old timers were on it to. Well belkap was . 70 80 s . Lots of talk always how haney loved his slin to. If its been around for almost hundred yrs u think bbers wouldn't jump on it. soon as gh was around cadvar they were on it. Soon as sysnhetic gh they were on it. same goes for steroids. Don't doubt they didn't jump the slin bandwagon either. Look at balknaps gut. There is none. No vacuum but no gut. Yet we all say its slin and not gh causing the guts. Yet everyone on here who abuse gh has a gut but don't touch slin cause gh15 says not to. Blp is even protruding hugely he's all gh abuse. Ur hands can grow twice the size but Ur kidneys liver and intestines can't..... Ya use Ur head whoever thinks otherwise.
The hormonas aren't entirely to blame. It's the overall ABUSE.
Abusing food, abusing slin, abusing GH. That's what causes the guts. Not just a single part of the equation but the whole thing. It can be avoided, but bodybuilders aren't really too modest nor do they like to do things the safer way.
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simple solution.
if the ifbb stops rewarding guys with big guts, they'll stop using whatever causes it. if guys with big guts keep winning, everyone will keep doing the drugs that create it.
no need for testing, it's all about changing judging criteria
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simple solution.
if the ifbb stops rewarding guys with big guts, they'll stop using whatever causes it. if guys with big guts keep winning, everyone will keep doing the drugs that create it.
no need for testing, it's all about changing judging criteria
Exactly. If they look like a mess, they shouldn't place so high. It's as simple as that.
I only follow bodybuilding now to watch how ridiculous the contests are and then loathe in disgust. Every competition is the same. It's disgusting... the "physiques", the judging, everything. :-\
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simple solution.
if the ifbb stops rewarding guys with big guts, they'll stop using whatever causes it. if guys with big guts keep winning, everyone will keep doing the drugs that create it.
no need for testing, it's all about changing judging criteria
Exactly.
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your mom
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Tim Belknap!
hmmmm..
So if massive insulin usage is believed to cause big ass guts??
Belk doesnt have gut. What's up?
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simple solution.
if the ifbb stops rewarding guys with big guts, they'll stop using whatever causes it. if guys with big guts keep winning, everyone will keep doing the drugs that create it.
no need for testing, it's all about changing judging criteria
I wish they`d get busy and do this.......NOW!
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hmmmm..
So if massive insulin usage is believed to cause big ass guts??
Belk doesnt have gut. What's up?
I keep trying to tell people this.
Does anyone have a fucking clue how big your liver and intestines are. Srsly. Much bigger than hands.
So if someone can grow twice as big hands or head shit made of bone. What the Fuck do u think is happening to all your guts. Your huge aas liver is now the size of two heads. Your intestines are arldy so god damn large. So really come on. Over eating... Hmm fat people can get super skinny waist. When they go on a diet. Yes virscal fat from slin adds up its part of it. But srsly most of the problem can't be. Why. Again ill say it. Ur fucking hands and head can grow twice the size.... Ur fucking skull man. U don't think Ur guts are growing either.... They grow even more than your bone.... Fairly obvious to see here.
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haha, his criticism at the time was that his waist was blocky.. lol now he looks downright aesthetic
Truth. That goes to show u how this is getting out of hand.
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Tim Belknap was a type 2 diabetic. He did a recent radio show (HMR last year) and explain that he found that he grew like a weed when he took small amounts of slin all day rather than big shots. He stated that when he went to southern Calif he introduced Mike Christian and others on how to use insulin. This was the late 70's and early 80's era. Tim was from Rockford Illinois.
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I keep trying to tell people this.
Does anyone have a fucking clue how big your liver and intestines are. Srsly. Much bigger than hands.
So if someone can grow twice as big hands or head shit made of bone. What the Fuck do u think is happening to all your guts. Your huge aas liver is now the size of two heads. Your intestines are arldy so god damn large. So really come on. Over eating... Hmm fat people can get super skinny waist. When they go on a diet. Yes virscal fat from slin adds up its part of it. But srsly most of the problem can't be. Why. Again ill say it. Ur fucking hands and head can grow twice the size.... Ur fucking skull man. U don't think Ur guts are growing either.... They grow even more than your bone.... Fairly obvious to see here.
Ouch.
That makes sense.
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Tim Belknap was a type 2 diabetic. He did a recent radio show (HMR last year) and explain that he found that he grew like a weed when he took small amounts of slin all day rather than big shots. He stated that when he went to southern Calif he introduced Mike Christian and others on how to use insulin. This was the late 70's and early 80's era. Tim was from Rockford Illinois.
Good info...sounds about right
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Trevor: What was the cause of the 20-30lb bodyweight jumps from 1994-present. I mean lets face it, Nasser El Sonbaty was an average pro until 1995 and ronnie coleman was a 2nd or 3rd tier athlete up until 1997, Jean Pierre Fux gained 40 lbs of tissue in a year and a half, chris cormier has gone from average to top 3, hell even dorian went from 230lbs to 260lbs seemingly overnight. All of these men have had lots of experience with steroids and g.h. So there had to be another factor. At first it was thought igf-1 was responsible, but this proved to be a rather ineffective compound.
So what was it?
This question has been on everyone's mind since the emergence of 280-290lb bodybuilders from seemingly out of no-where. I always thought it must have been the emergence of igf-1, but then after researching some things, I found out that igf-1 is a nuts drug and doesn't do much. (Hey this is trevors opinion not mine-dc) What gives?
IFBBPRO: I n s u l i n! That's what gives! I've known a lot of these guys for a while now and I can unequivocally tell you that it is the result of insulin that these huge leaps have been made.
(Read the whole thing here if you want.)
http://community.hypemuscle.com/forums/hgh-igf-insulin-discussion/12329-interview-milos-abotu-insulin.html (http://community.hypemuscle.com/forums/hgh-igf-insulin-discussion/12329-interview-milos-abotu-insulin.html)
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simple solution.
if the ifbb stops rewarding guys with big guts, they'll stop using whatever causes it. if guys with big guts keep winning, everyone will keep doing the drugs that create it.
no need for testing, it's all about changing judging criteria
I agree
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Tim Belknap was a type 2 diabetic. He did a recent radio show (HMR last year) and explain that he found that he grew like a weed when he took small amounts of slin all day rather than big shots. He stated that when he went to southern Calif he introduced Mike Christian and others on how to use insulin. This was the late 70's and early 80's era. Tim was from Rockford Illinois.
I think he meant to say took large doses of slin throughout the day (:
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hmmmm..
So if massive insulin usage is believed to cause big ass guts??
Belk doesnt have gut. What's up?
good point...
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I think he meant to say took large doses of slin throughout the day (:
Just listened to it. Didn't say he took small doses actually. He actually kept hinting at abuse of insulin. Four to six shots of humalin r a day the more he took more he gained.
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Just listened to it. Didn't say he took small doses actually. He actually kept hinting at abuse of insulin. Four to six shots of humalin r a day the more he took more he gained.
tThe one thing I wondered though, is taking insulin preworkout detrimental? We want to be able to break down the muscle tissue during strength training, but insulin prevents muscle breakdown.Why do guys use insulin preworkout?
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btw if anyone hasn't tried insulin, take a shot of humulin-R and eat a big carb meal and watch how much fucken ENERGY you have in the gym. I feel like a different person honestly, hope I'm not diabetic. Probably insulin resistant from too many carbs/anadrol. If I eat a meal without insulin I get tired as all hell super lethargic after eating, muscles are very flat without it too. Can't be good..but overall I love this shit.
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Trevor: What was the cause of the 20-30lb bodyweight jumps from 1994-present. I mean lets face it, Nasser El Sonbaty was an average pro until 1995 and ronnie coleman was a 2nd or 3rd tier athlete up until 1997, Jean Pierre Fux gained 40 lbs of tissue in a year and a half, chris cormier has gone from average to top 3, hell even dorian went from 230lbs to 260lbs seemingly overnight. All of these men have had lots of experience with steroids and g.h. So there had to be another factor. At first it was thought igf-1 was responsible, but this proved to be a rather ineffective compound.
So what was it?
This question has been on everyone's mind since the emergence of 280-290lb bodybuilders from seemingly out of no-where. I always thought it must have been the emergence of igf-1, but then after researching some things, I found out that igf-1 is a nuts drug and doesn't do much. (Hey this is trevors opinion not mine-dc) What gives?
IFBBPRO: I n s u l i n! That's what gives! I've known a lot of these guys for a while now and I can unequivocally tell you that it is the result of insulin that these huge leaps have been made.
(Read the whole thing here if you want.)
http://community.hypemuscle.com/forums/hgh-igf-insulin-discussion/12329-interview-milos-abotu-insulin.html (http://community.hypemuscle.com/forums/hgh-igf-insulin-discussion/12329-interview-milos-abotu-insulin.html)
Yes cause we've never been fed bullshit before. Watch the radio show with Tim. He said they were using it back than. He was training in his teens in 70 s and even then found how he could gain so well when he took more insulin. Doesn't matter I'd he's a diabetic. Diabwtics need insulin yes but they can still abuse it..
He abused it and his friends asked him how to use it and rhey tried it. He says Mike Christian was a close friend and admitee on the show he used it back than.
So all everyone's 80s look phyisque is insulin physquies as well. Mike Christian wasn't the best. Tim belknap wasn't the best. Yet u think others got better without insulin. Of course fucking not.
Everyone is a abuser. They took things to the extreme why. Cause were humans we always have always will take things to the extrmeme if we want to. We are stupid and smart.
No guts in the eightys. Why what's the differance. Steroids. Gh insulin.... It's all there. What's
Diff steroids insulin always cheap. Gh... Thousands apoun thousands till recent decade. U think all the poor bastards afford ten iu gh. Maybe two iu. But steroids and slin were cheap why not abuse those. Tim did others to no doubt were addicts right. Yet no guts..... Hmm pretty clear to me.
Trevor: What was the cause of the 20-30lb bodyweight jumps from 1994-present. I mean lets face it, Nasser El Sonbaty was an average pro until 1995 and ronnie coleman was a 2nd or 3rd tier athlete up until 1997, Jean Pierre Fux gained 40 lbs of tissue in a year and a half, chris cormier has gone from average to top 3, hell even dorian went from 230lbs to 260lbs seemingly overnight. All of these men have had lots of experience with steroids and g.h. So there had to be another factor. At first it was thought igf-1 was responsible, but this proved to be a rather ineffective compound.
So what was it?
This question has been on everyone's mind since the emergence of 280-290lb bodybuilders from seemingly out of no-where. I always thought it must have been the emergence of igf-1, but then after researching some things, I found out that igf-1 is a nuts drug and doesn't do much. (Hey this is trevors opinion not mine-dc) What gives?
IFBBPRO: I n s u l i n! That's what gives! I've known a lot of these guys for a while now and I can unequivocally tell you that it is the result of insulin that these huge leaps have been made.
(Read the whole thing here if you want.)
http://community.hypemuscle.com/forums/hgh-igf-insulin-discussion/12329-interview-milos-abotu-insulin.html (http://community.hypemuscle.com/forums/hgh-igf-insulin-discussion/12329-interview-milos-abotu-insulin.html)
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btw if anyone hasn't tried insulin, take a shot of humulin-R and eat a big carb meal and watch how much fucken ENERGY you have in the gym. I feel like a different person honestly, hope I'm not diabetic. Probably insulin resistant from too many carbs/anadrol. If I eat a meal without insulin I get tired as all hell super lethargic after eating, muscles are very flat without it too. Can't be good..but overall I love this shit.
its my understanding that if anything using insulin may lower your chances of becoming diabetic.
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btw if anyone hasn't tried insulin, take a shot of humulin-R and eat a big carb meal and watch how much fucken ENERGY you have in the gym. I feel like a different person honestly, hope I'm not diabetic. Probably insulin resistant from too many carbs/anadrol. If I eat a meal without insulin I get tired as all hell super lethargic after eating, muscles are very flat without it too. Can't be good..but overall I love this shit.
I keep trying to say how healthy insulin is for bbers.
After reading it from a doctor.
We were ment to eat very few meals a day. And fast between meals. Yet we eat six meals a day two hundred carbs a meal. Our blood sugar pancreas everything is so unhealthy . The eating is the most unheathly part here no one understands. That's what ages us that much stress on panceeas to release insulin constantly and it never releases amount for us to use cause we are so stupid and eat so much. So we have tons of sugar causing so many bad effects in our blood constantly leading to heart disease diabetis aging so on so on so on
Insulin will do its job give our pancreas a break and get us the results we want.
A very smart doctor suggest insulin use for normal people to give the pancreas a break to prolong life. We should.y eat like we do.
I am same way is my point yrs of over eating I feel so old and tired. I take insulin I feel strong for hours so awake. so full muscular so well being I feel like in fifteen. again. I have for sure made myself insulin insensitive or partial made my pancreas stop working up to par for sure.
And again look at the health effects we are doing without slin. And no guts. The proof is in real world results and pictures.
Again think hands and head.... Twice the same. Picture intestines kidneys liver stomach twice the size..... Think on Ur own for once people. So many of our top 300 lb guys here who r anti slin and pure gh cause gh15 yet all sport a gh turtle abs gut proof is in the pudding. Look at Tim and Mike Christian. again proof is in the pudding my friends. No big hands or heads or guts...... Hello none have big hands heads or guts. Hey couldn't afford gh abuse is why. Today gh abuse all around. Equals big hands big heads big guts.
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its my understanding that if anything using insulin may lower your chances of becoming diabetic.
Bingo. Pancreas never stops working once exo slin is out of u. U wanna be dumb and eat five heavy meals a day and damage Ur body rly badly than give Ur body a break use slin. Google people there are smart doctors even who suggest it for normal healtbly people.
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my guess these 90s guys that where monsters and gh still costed 15$ an iu prolly where using it with t3 or dnp funny dnp came to the for front bout the same time as also and the 500-600mg cycles. Using dnp in that manner doesn't really makes since unless maybe they where doing it to stave of fat gain in short 2 week breaks from something. Its clear the most sensible way to use dnp is in low doses 100-250mg a day for 3-4 weeks. The reason the 600mg dnp cycle is common is most likely guys where shooting the shit out of insulin 50-100 ius a day for 6-12 weeks then melting the fat in a week or 2 and starting again makes sense. Its almost the same time that guys got large a rush to find drugs to melt fat happened also.
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my guess these 90s guys that where monsters and gh still costed 15$ an iu prolly where using it with t3 or dnp funny dnp came to the for front bout the same time as also and the 500-600mg cycles. Using dnp in that manner doesn't really makes since unless maybe they where doing it to stave of fat gain in short 2 week breaks from something. Its clear the most sensible way to use dnp is in low doses 100-250mg a day for 3-4 weeks. The reason the 600mg dnp cycle is common is most likely guys where shooting the shit out of insulin 50-100 ius a day for 6-12 weeks then melting the fat in a week or 2 and starting again makes sense. Its almost the same time that guys got large a rush to find drugs to melt fat happened also.
Come late 90 s hello massive internet usage and Chinese wide spread cheaper gh. and things just kept getting cheaper and more internet usage.
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theres your gold ticket right there cheap muscles 30-60ius slin once 12-14% dnp and start again lol
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Come late 90 s hello massive internet usage and Chinese wide spread cheaper gh. and things just kept getting cheaper and more internet usage.
guys where way to big when gh was to expensive maybe a few sold enough drugs to afford it but many had to be doing with out modern gh protocols just not enough money to go around. There where to many mike mattarozos and paul demayos then to have all been running 15ius of gh. It was like all the sudden everyone turn to freaks over night couldnt have been gh imo.
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theres your gold ticket right there cheap muscles 30-60ius slin once 12-14% dnp and start again lol
Even i have used 30 iu before and after workout.
I have met people that are internet retarded older guys. Use to use insulin 100 iu humalog since over counter 100 iu one shot right on the tummy. Blew my mind when I seen it. Than i realised. Internet is here like highachoom rumors drama and bullshit. When theres guys that r still living in 70 and 80 s blindly shooting shit
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I just like theory I do believe they where getting 300lbs way before using 10ius of gh wide spread. I mean fucking paul demayo worked on an a street crew he wasnt spending 100$ a day on gh.
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guys where way to big when gh was to expensive maybe a few sold enough drugs to afford it but many had to be doing with out modern gh protocols just not enough money to go around. There where to many mike mattarozos and paul demayos then to have all been running 15ius of gh. It was like all the sudden everyone turn to freaks over night couldnt have been gh imo.
And insulin has always was cost pennys. Over counter here 30 usd. 1000 iu. Like TIM said himself more he took more he grew all bbers would have been all over this. Bbers are always addicts. I'd u hear slight rumor something works there on it. we all are.
Look at all the peptise mgf myostain half guys r drooling over myostatin shit hoping it'll be real and soon as it comes real stuff they'll shit there pants for it. I will to. Soon as we here anabolic we want it . and guys back than why would they be diff. Insulin is what we want. And insulin is synergeatic with steroids. Very synergeatic
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tim looks modern you can tell he isn't the same as the arnold, franco crew. looks mutates imo. One other advatage these guys had also is not dante or other people to scare them off I can just see if no internet guys would be having contests to see who could do the most if anything. Funny they all had small wastes to lol maybe the slins not the problem maybe its something else huh.
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What I think of gh15 is he is same as the thing he calls a liar cult now. He is a bber what r all bbers he says liars..... He will never discuss slin just like he says no bber will discuss real drugs they take. He leaves our the best drugs that's been used before he was born. And everyone who follows him is a ninja donatelll turtle belly gut boy. On tons of gh.
Maybe secret is in the insulin not the gh he tells us that will make our hands size of Andre the giant and our kidneys busting our of our backsides like love handles and intestines making us look like bloated acromeagly tiny limb big torso shit logs.
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tim looks modern you can tell he isn't the same as the arnold, franco crew. looks mutates imo. One other advatage these guys had also is not dante or other people to scare them off I can just see if no internet guys would be having contests to see who could do the most if anything. Funny they all had small wastes to lol maybe the slins not the problem maybe its something else huh.
I hear u there. But I still can only see it as gh over use. Like I said hands twice the size. Heads twice the size. Comes with it. Our insides guts twice the size. Everything grows together.
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I dont know this is just theory. I really have never seen someone turn fucking mutant on just gh myself. heres another to expensive to run gh guy I remember seeing this as i teen i was shook up never seen a human like that before. They where comming out of the wood works at that period.
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The gh argument has never been logical to me to many 300lbs or mutants when it was still very expensive I have no doubts it works but they were way big before abusing gh.
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theres your gold ticket right there cheap muscles 30-60ius slin once 12-14% dnp and start again lol
if you use steroids, the right ones you won't get too fat. Even without gh...of course you still get fatter than if you used it with gh but I didn't become a slob using insulin without gh, and grew nicely.
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People say slinpimp has a agenda his name is slinpimp but touts gh ... Gh15 always aas and gh. He hates pro muscle but loves pp . Competitors ...... No talk of insulin. Why insulin is cheap and over the counter online or on some places in person. So they can't make money. so let's talk about how amazing gh or aas are only .
If slin is so bad why does it seem so many used it and so many couldn't afford gh back then for that golden look.
Secret.... agenda.... They say it themaelfs can't trust anyone in the cult all lies
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if you use steroids, the right ones you won't get too fat. Even without gh...of course you still get fatter than if you used it with gh but I didn't become a slob using insulin without gh, and grew nicely.
The day I take slin i wake up next morning leaner. Just seems another lie slin makes u fat. If it was why are here teenage girls on girl forums taking insulin for weight loss. ehy do they talk about TIM belknap being so vasuclar and lean like no one else back then. Insulin.
U have to admit if u used like u said. Pumps fuller. And again. Leaner even.
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Another thing they say slin makes you full and and when you quit taking it that goes away. Quit taking your dbol and tren and see what happens to lol Im not saying this is right just something i have noticed reading and studying shit. I have only played with it never took it like i suspect. Even blp look at him he looks like a different person since he ran that slin 100ius a day.
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you can get a bodybuilder to tell you he's gay or on drugs or bangs underage girls before he will talk about his slin use.
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The day I take slin i wake up next morning leaner. Just seems another lie slin makes u fat. If it was why are here teenage girls on girl forums taking insulin for weight loss. ehy do they talk about TIM belknap being so vasuclar and lean like no one else back then. Insulin.
U have to admit if u used like u said. Pumps fuller. And again. Leaner even.
does it come down to admin protocol ? Carb and meal timing, maybe? Excessive simple carbs?
I don't know much bout slin, is there not a serious element of danger to health? Long term irreversible effects?
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milos told me that an endocrinologist from university of novi sad in yugoslavia taught him how to use it for muscle engorgement. he then showed Dorian, Nasser, Vince Taylor how to use it.
Tim Belknap was using it in the 80's, but he was a legit diabetic
Dorian repaid him by fucking' his wife.
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Dorian repaid him by fucking' his wife.
That milamar obviously had milos pussy-whipped, she wasn't the hottest, not beautiful, a slut/whore, looking out for herself only
Let's face it, milos was a good looking guy that sold a lot of mags, I'm sure he couldve done better
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fucking love slin. slin+350mg tren a is superior than 1500mg test+900mg deca+ dbol without slin for me! gotta watch out and stop sometimes when my face gets too big, you know phil heath offseason style? after 3-4 days off it returns to normal
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People say slinpimp has a agenda his name is slinpimp but touts gh ... Gh15 always aas and gh. He hates pro muscle but loves pp . Competitors ...... No talk of insulin. Why insulin is cheap and over the counter online or on some places in person. So they can't make money. so let's talk about how amazing gh or aas are only .
If slin is so bad why does it seem so many used it and so many couldn't afford gh back then for that golden look.
Secret.... agenda.... They say it themaelfs can't trust anyone in the cult all lies
Really good post.
How long before Slin kicks in? It seems to be very transient, guys stop taking it and the muscle goes.
As said a lot of the guys in the 90's put on 30lb in a year ???
I think the GH is very likely the main culprit, the clues in the name imo.
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fucking love slin. slin+350mg tren a is superior than 1500mg test+900mg deca+ dbol without slin for me! gotta watch out and stop sometimes when my face gets too big, you know phil heath offseason style? after 3-4 days off it returns to normal
Dosage u used were
I notice it worked good twenty to thirty iu a shot any less was minimal gains if any.
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does it come down to admin protocol ? Carb and meal timing, maybe? Excessive simple carbs?
I don't know much bout slin, is there not a serious element of danger to health? Long term irreversible effects?
All I have noticed personal experiance is low dose does nothing. Twenty iu to thirty is where I see amazing gains. Really want to up it to see how that goes.
I ate normally. After shot had some milk with coffee grinder oatmeal for a shake.
Maybe thirty mins maybe hour later had a meal. Basic whole food meal.
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Really good post.
How long before Slin kicks in? It seems to be very transient, guys stop taking it and the muscle goes.
As said a lot of the guys in the 90's put on 30lb in a year ???
I think the GH is very likely the main culprit, the clues in the name imo.
Like was said above. soon as people stop taking dbol you notice a lot of gains go as well. Really its no difderarnt.
Yup it needs to be a saying if someone can get it catchy. Hands grow twice the size. Head grows twice size. And..... Ur guts ...... Which are a lot bigger .... Grow twice the size.
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I beloved this sums up the problems we have with hormones stop working. And that insulin goes with anabolics more so than gh.
It is safe to conclude something else is needed to uncover the full anabolic effect of steroids. The hormone which is the most affected by a high calorie or by a low calorie diet is insulin. Also, heavy steroid users know that past a certain amount of steroids, adding insulin will make a big difference as far as muscle gains are concerned. Insulin is thus a strong candidate as a potentiator of anabolic steroids (which we will indiscriminately refer to as androgens, steroids or anabolics). Furthermore, studies performed in trained dogs have shown a lack of insulin completely negates the anabolic effects of steroids on protein synthesis. There are some easy hypotheses such as a possible androgen receptor up regulation, a stimulation of androgen secretion, an antiaromatase effect arising from insulin. But, there is still something missing.
Using anabolics plus insulin will not make you much bigger unless you weight train. The synergy can only be realized if insulin + steroids + training are present. What is the link between those three factors? A very likely candidate is an enzyme called insulinase. As its name implies, it is an enzyme responsible for the destruction of insulin. But we are going to see it does much more than that. It is found inside many tissues of the body, particularly in muscle. What science is telling us is that insulinase is essential for insulin to provide its anti-catabolic effect on our muscles. It is also likely that insulinase is able to multiply the anabolic effects of androgens. It's worth repeating: insulin cannot stop protein catabolism without insulinase and the effects of steroids are potentiated by insulinase. It sure looks good.
Androgens are very powerful stimulators of the muscle protein synthesis rate. On the other hand, the muscle gains provided by androgens do not match this elevation in synthesis. Steroids promote anabolism to a much higher rate than they make our muscles grow. The reason for this discrepancy is that they also stimulate protein degradation. I know many people think they are anti-catabolic, but it is not the case. Anabolics stimulate protein turnover. This means they increase both synthesis and degradation of proteins. They are simply more effective at stimulating synthesis than degradation, which is why they make our muscles grow but not at a super fast rate. Look at how long it takes to grow huge muscles. If androgens were stimulating synthesis while inhibiting degradation, one would grow very, very quickly.
This is where insulin comes in. As we said, it mostly reduces protein degradation rate. It might stimulate protein synthesis right after training, but this effect is very limited in duration. Ideally, using insulin along with steroids would allow us to accelerate synthesis (thanks to anabolics) and reduce degradation (thanks to insulin). This is the best way to grow muscle fast. Unfortunately, as both insulin and anabolics need insulinase to work better, they will compete against each other for this enzyme. For natural athletes, the supply of muscle insulinase should roughly meet the demand. Now if you add anabolics, there will be less insulinase for insulin. If you do not take too high a dose of steroids, the level of insulinase should still be sufficient to allow a fair insulin-induced anti-catabolism.
But as you take more steroids, the insulinase available for insulin will be lower and lower. Insulin will lose its anti-catabolic effect. As it will still bind some insulinase, the enzyme availability for steroids will not be optimal either. Anabolics will lose some of their potency. What is important to understand is that past a certain dose, anabolics will provide their own antidote against muscle growth. The only solution (besides using fewer steroids) is to increase insulinase level. At least two factors can accomplish this feat: The first one is insulin itself. The higher the insulin level is in a target organ (muscle for example) the higher the insulinase level will be. You would expect that the body would detect the shortage of insulinase for insulin and so produce more insulin (or more insulinase). Unfortunately, this does not seem to be the case. While insulinase is crucial for the anti-catabolic effect of insulin, it does not seem as important for glucose disposal.
Insulin's main function is not to assist in muscle growth but to control glucose homeostasis. As a result, it is likely our body does not really care about a relative shortage of insulinase. In any case, we are left with a less than optimal equilibrium. It is up to the bodybuilder to react to this imbalance.
One way of increasing insulin secretion is to eat more, but you can only do so up to a point. You cannot increase your carb intake in parallel with the amount of steroids without getting too fat. Another solution is to use drugs to add or to stimulate insulin secretion. This way you get the insulin without the excess of calories. In any case you now understand why steroids work better while on a high calorie diet while they lose their potency during a diet or a shortage of insulin.
Here is a way of "artificially increasing insulin level": One dose of long acting insulin first thing in the morning (this is the only injection). Before each meal (except the pre-workout one), take a sulfonylurea (an oral anti-diabetic drug which will boost food induced insulin secretion). I like Glipizide because of its short half-life. In case you experience hypoglycaemia, you know it will not last. This is the main problem with the long acting sulfonylurea. When you are hypoglycaemic, you try to compensate by absorbing carbs. But the drug will make your pancreas secrete even more insulin before the carbs can hit the blood. It makes the hypoglycaemia worse - not better.
In case of problems, make sure you get some ready-to-inject Glucagon (sold as "insulin emergency kits" in drugstores). An additional benefit of the Glipizide is that it induces the release of GH on top of insulin which is beneficial for non diabetics.
This is a nice way to fix the reduced anticatabolic property of insulin. Unfortunately, this will not yet provide the optimal amount of insulinase to have steroids work better. We said that training was the third key ingredient in this synergy. This is because training can stimulate insulinase activity. Not any exercise will do. The traumatic ones inducing muscle soreness are the most effective. It is the factors inducing soreness which will trigger this increase in insulinase. On the other hand, you do not want to create too much soreness as it will temporarily reduce the effects of insulin and androgens by impairing their effects at the level of their respective receptors. What you want is mild but frequent soreness along with some very frequent pumping sessions. Do not forget both androgens and insulin circulates in the blood. The more blood you get into the muscles (and the longer it stays), the more your muscles will be "drenched" in those two hormones. Please note that insulinase is produced locally in the trained muscles only. It does not circulate into the blood. By Michalovich Greutstein
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Another thing they say slin makes you full and and when you quit taking it that goes away. Quit taking your dbol and tren and see what happens to lol Im not saying this is right just something i have noticed reading and studying shit. I have only played with it never took it like i suspect. Even blp look at him he looks like a different person since he ran that slin 100ius a day.
Exactly. U played around with what low dose or. U have to try it abit higher for sure. Guys who say its shit or don't notice it is like guys running half a ml test a week for a cycle.
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Lyquid what kind of slin did you use? Did you use it throughout the day?
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Dosage u used were
I notice it worked good twenty to thirty iu a shot any less was minimal gains if any.
i did 50ius per shot 3 shot ed, shits workeddd like crazy but had to stop after one week cause it was getting too bad. now i use 2 shot ed, 1 shot 20ius in the morning, 1 of 30ius around 5pm. less gains then 150ius but i dont wanna look like mr.potatoe so no choice but to lower the dose
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Lyquid what kind of slin did you use? Did you use it throughout the day?
I can't remwber I'd I did two or three shots a day humalog. Was 30 iu highest. Rift now few days in 30 iu once or twice a day. Off days only been once a day is why about to try again three times a say. I feel great when on it. Just trying to time it around ghrp mod gfr use was all.
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i did 50ius per shot 3 shot ed, shits workeddd like crazy but had to stop after one week cause it was getting too bad. now i use 2 shot ed, 1 shot 20ius in the morning, 1 of 30ius around 5pm. less gains then 150ius but i dont wanna look like mr.potatoe so no choice but to lower the dose
Hmm. I wonder how so many pros avoid it. Must be genetics to store fat in the face more. Look at Phil than look at levrone and others with no fat. I'm the other way. Dbol test deca etc makes me look normal. My face is naturally to lean and sunken in. Anything added gives me a more health round look. Specially when i was 90 lbs less I show people ny pic and they say ew at my face sunken in.
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i did 50ius per shot 3 shot ed, shits workeddd like crazy but had to stop after one week cause it was getting too bad. now i use 2 shot ed, 1 shot 20ius in the morning, 1 of 30ius around 5pm. less gains then 150ius but i dont wanna look like mr.potatoe so no choice but to lower the dose
judging by your avatar a few months ago it didn't do a god damn thing, you looked like you never taken a drug in your life. no offense :-\
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judging by your avatar a few months ago it didn't do a god damn thing, you looked like you never taken a drug in your life. no offense :-\
LOL.
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judging by your avatar a few months ago it didn't do a god damn thing, you looked like you never taken a drug in your life. no offense :-\
which one? well heres when i was on lots of slin+ 500mg test, 600mg deca if i remember well. also keep in mind im 6'3, id fucking dwarf you in real life :P and at the end of the day, you're still a faceless coward afraid to post a pic ;D
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which one? well heres when i was on lots of slin+ 500mg test, 600mg deca if i remember well. also keep in mind im 6'3, id fucking dwarf you in real life :P and at the end of the day, you're still a faceless coward afraid to post a pic ;D
(http://i40.tinypic.com/302x6kk.jpg)
6'3"? You're thick as a cock especially for such a tall fella. Good job, man.
Err, I mean... you look like shit. Hope this helps (I gotta look tough, you know!) ;D
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which one? well heres when i was on lots of slin+ 500mg test, 600mg deca if i remember well. also keep in mind im 6'3, id fucking dwarf you in real life :P and at the end of the day, you're still a faceless coward afraid to post a pic ;D
(http://i40.tinypic.com/302x6kk.jpg)
yup, pretty fukkin thik for 6'3.
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thanks you studs ;D
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which one? well heres when i was on lots of slin+ 500mg test, 600mg deca if i remember well. also keep in mind im 6'3, id fucking dwarf you in real life :P and at the end of the day, you're still a faceless coward afraid to post a pic ;D
(http://i40.tinypic.com/302x6kk.jpg)
haha no you wouldn't bitch
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which one? well heres when i was on lots of slin+ 500mg test, 600mg deca if i remember well. also keep in mind im 6'3, id fucking dwarf you in real life :P and at the end of the day, you're still a faceless coward afraid to post a pic ;D
(http://i40.tinypic.com/302x6kk.jpg)
LOL what's funny to me is I know your big. Why cause im same height. And I know this cause a pic like that not even posing makes all tall guys look.. um kinda bad. Gaurwntwe if u took a pic really spread out like a front double bi you'd look really big. I know if I take a close up pic I look small. Yet when I do a big pose like Arnold I look much bigger. But fact u can still look thick in such a shit pose u must be big.
What size is your arms they'd have to be twenty or so.
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LOL what's funny to me is I know your big. Why cause im same height. And I know this cause a pic like that not even posing makes all tall guys look.. um kinda bad. Gaurwntwe if u took a pic really spread out like a front double bi you'd look really big. I know if I take a close up pic I look small. Yet when I do a big pose like Arnold I look much bigger. But fact u can still look thick in such a shit pose u must be big.
What size is your arms they'd have to be twenty or so.
Not over 18. Decent build though, you look a lot better here than the other pic you posted.
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Not over 18. Decent build though, you look a lot better here than the other pic you posted.
Hmm unless people are real tall themselfs I don't think they realize. I am over eightteen unchanged lean. Legit arms. Again I'm his height. Just cause they measure big at my height don't mean there big of course but they are still over eightteen.
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Hmm unless people are real tall themselfs I don't think they realize. I am over eightteen unchanged lean. Legit arms. Again I'm his height. Just cause they measure big at my height don't mean there big of course but they are still over eightteen.
Know a few guys that height with legit 18-20 arms, it still looks big on taller guys.
Wolfs arms look huge and they are no bigger than Ronnies, even though he isa fair bit taller.
Different angles is deceptive, i saw a few of the other pics too, but i'm not going to argue with anyone about it.
He looks solid.
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Know a few guys that height with legit 18-20 arms, it still looks big on taller guys.
Wolfs arms look huge and they are no bigger than Ronnies, even though he isa fair bit taller.
Different angles is deceptive, i saw a few of the other pics too, but i'm not going to argue with anyone about it.
He looks solid.
Well we all know how everyone lies about height. Even wolf probably lol. I think only legit tall guys been what's his face... Canadian Greg kovacs. Or the tall Negro mericanos. Didn't Greg have 26 inchs if so u know I need. Well feel I need 22 to look decent.
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Well we all know how everyone lies about height. Even wolf probably lol. I think only legit tall guys been what's his face... Canadian Greg kovacs. Or the tall Negro mericanos. Didn't Greg have 26 inchs if so u know I need. Well feel I need 22 to look decent.
Haha true bodybuilder bro.
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LOL what's funny to me is I know your big. Why cause im same height. And I know this cause a pic like that not even posing makes all tall guys look.. um kinda bad. Gaurwntwe if u took a pic really spread out like a front double bi you'd look really big. I know if I take a close up pic I look small. Yet when I do a big pose like Arnold I look much bigger. But fact u can still look thick in such a shit pose u must be big.
What size is your arms they'd have to be twenty or so.
well that is kinda a most-muscular lol i was flexing there! arms are 19 pumped
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lesaucer look like shit - hands bigger than his delts LOLLOOLOOLLOLO
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lesaucer look like shit - hands bigger than his delts LOLLOOLOOLLOLO
yea i got big hands and a huge cock, you mad brah?
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lesaucer look like shit - hands bigger than his delts LOLLOOLOOLLOLO
You do know it's the pose, right? Levrone's shoulders would look like tennis balls in that exact angle.
Nothing to laugh about when someone's got hands the size of catcher's mitts either. I'm sure they'd crush your face.
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which one? well heres when i was on lots of slin+ 500mg test, 600mg deca if i remember well. also keep in mind im 6'3, id fucking dwarf you in real life :P and at the end of the day, you're still a faceless coward afraid to post a pic ;D
(http://i40.tinypic.com/302x6kk.jpg)
May we see this thick majestic cock of yours? (No Homo)
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