who was the first to use slin for bbing ?

[hazbin]

simple solution.

if the ifbb stops rewarding guys with big guts, they'll stop using whatever causes it. if guys with big guts keep winning, everyone will keep doing the drugs that create it.

no need for testing, it's all about changing judging criteria

[dustin]

simple solution.

if the ifbb stops rewarding guys with big guts, they'll stop using whatever causes it. if guys with big guts keep winning, everyone will keep doing the drugs that create it.

no need for testing, it's all about changing judging criteria

Exactly. If they look like a mess, they shouldn't place so high. It's as simple as that.

I only follow bodybuilding now to watch how ridiculous the contests are and then loathe in disgust. Every competition is the same. It's disgusting... the "physiques", the judging, everything.

[che]

simple solution.

if the ifbb stops rewarding guys with big guts, they'll stop using whatever causes it. if guys with big guts keep winning, everyone will keep doing the drugs that create it.

no need for testing, it's all about changing judging criteria

Exactly.

[Schmoff]

your mom

[D.O.U.P]

Tim Belknap!

hmmmm..

So if massive insulin usage is believed to cause big ass guts??

Belk doesnt have gut. What's up?

[wes]

simple solution.

if the ifbb stops rewarding guys with big guts, they'll stop using whatever causes it. if guys with big guts keep winning, everyone will keep doing the drugs that create it.

no need for testing, it's all about changing judging criteria

I wish they`d get busy and do this.......NOW!

[lyquid]

hmmmm..

So if massive insulin usage is believed to cause big ass guts??

Belk doesnt have gut. What's up?

I keep trying to tell people this.

Does anyone have a fucking clue how big your liver and intestines are. Srsly. Much bigger than hands.

So if someone can grow twice as big hands or head shit made of bone. What the Fuck do u think is happening to all your guts. Your huge aas liver is now the size of two heads. Your intestines are arldy so god damn large. So really come on. Over eating... Hmm fat people can get super skinny waist. When they go on a diet. Yes virscal fat from slin adds up its part of it. But srsly most of the problem can't be. Why. Again ill say it. Ur fucking hands and head can grow twice the size.... Ur fucking skull man. U don't think Ur guts are growing either.... They grow even more than your bone.... Fairly obvious to see here.

[jude2]

haha, his criticism at the time was that his waist was blocky..  lol   now he looks downright aesthetic

Truth. That goes to show u how this is getting out of hand.

[mcluvin]

Tim Belknap was a type 2 diabetic. He did a recent radio show (HMR last year) and explain that he found that he grew like a weed when he took small amounts of slin all day rather than big shots. He stated that when he went to southern Calif he introduced Mike Christian and others on how to use insulin. This was the late 70's and early 80's era. Tim was from Rockford Illinois.

[D.O.U.P]

I keep trying to tell people this.

Does anyone have a fucking clue how big your liver and intestines are. Srsly. Much bigger than hands.

So if someone can grow twice as big hands or head shit made of bone. What the Fuck do u think is happening to all your guts. Your huge aas liver is now the size of two heads. Your intestines are arldy so god damn large. So really come on. Over eating... Hmm fat people can get super skinny waist. When they go on a diet. Yes virscal fat from slin adds up its part of it. But srsly most of the problem can't be. Why. Again ill say it. Ur fucking hands and head can grow twice the size.... Ur fucking skull man. U don't think Ur guts are growing either.... They grow even more than your bone.... Fairly obvious to see here.

Ouch.

That makes sense.

[Palpatine Q]

Tim Belknap was a type 2 diabetic. He did a recent radio show (HMR last year) and explain that he found that he grew like a weed when he took small amounts of slin all day rather than big shots. He stated that when he went to southern Calif he introduced Mike Christian and others on how to use insulin. This was the late 70's and early 80's era. Tim was from Rockford Illinois.

Good info...sounds about right

[SomeKindofMonster]

Trevor: What was the cause of the 20-30lb bodyweight jumps from 1994-present. I mean lets face it, Nasser El Sonbaty was an average pro until 1995 and ronnie coleman was a 2nd or 3rd tier athlete up until 1997, Jean Pierre Fux gained 40 lbs of tissue in a year and a half, chris cormier has gone from average to top 3, hell even dorian went from 230lbs to 260lbs seemingly overnight. All of these men have had lots of experience with steroids and g.h. So there had to be another factor. At first it was thought igf-1 was responsible, but this proved to be a rather ineffective compound.

So what was it?

This question has been on everyone's mind since the emergence of 280-290lb bodybuilders from seemingly out of no-where. I always thought it must have been the emergence of igf-1, but then after researching some things, I found out that igf-1 is a nuts drug and doesn't do much. (Hey this is trevors opinion not mine-dc) What gives?

IFBBPRO: I n s u l i n! That's what gives! I've known a lot of these guys for a while now and I can unequivocally tell you that it is the result of insulin that these huge leaps have been made.
(Read the whole thing here if you want.)
http://community.hypemuscle.com/forums/hgh-igf-insulin-discussion/12329-interview-milos-abotu-insulin.html

[Cleanest Natural]

simple solution.

if the ifbb stops rewarding guys with big guts, they'll stop using whatever causes it. if guys with big guts keep winning, everyone will keep doing the drugs that create it.

no need for testing, it's all about changing judging criteria

I agree

[flinstones1]

Tim Belknap was a type 2 diabetic. He did a recent radio show (HMR last year) and explain that he found that he grew like a weed when he took small amounts of slin all day rather than big shots. He stated that when he went to southern Calif he introduced Mike Christian and others on how to use insulin. This was the late 70's and early 80's era. Tim was from Rockford Illinois.

I think he meant to say took large doses of slin throughout the day (:

[flinstones1]

hmmmm..

So if massive insulin usage is believed to cause big ass guts??

Belk doesnt have gut. What's up?

good point...

[lyquid]

I think he meant to say took large doses of slin throughout the day (:

Just listened to it. Didn't  say he took small doses actually. He actually kept hinting at abuse of insulin. Four to six shots of humalin r a day the more he took more he gained.

[flinstones1]

Just listened to it. Didn't  say he took small doses actually. He actually kept hinting at abuse of insulin. Four to six shots of humalin r a day the more he took more he gained.

tThe one thing I wondered though, is taking insulin preworkout detrimental? We want to be able to break down the muscle tissue during strength training, but insulin prevents muscle breakdown.Why do guys use insulin preworkout?

[flinstones1]

btw if anyone hasn't tried insulin, take a shot of humulin-R and eat a big carb meal and watch how much fucken ENERGY you have in the gym. I feel like a different person honestly, hope I'm not diabetic. Probably insulin resistant from too many carbs/anadrol. If I eat a meal without insulin I get tired as all hell super lethargic after eating, muscles are very flat without it too. Can't be good..but overall I love this shit.

[lyquid]

Trevor: What was the cause of the 20-30lb bodyweight jumps from 1994-present. I mean lets face it, Nasser El Sonbaty was an average pro until 1995 and ronnie coleman was a 2nd or 3rd tier athlete up until 1997, Jean Pierre Fux gained 40 lbs of tissue in a year and a half, chris cormier has gone from average to top 3, hell even dorian went from 230lbs to 260lbs seemingly overnight. All of these men have had lots of experience with steroids and g.h. So there had to be another factor. At first it was thought igf-1 was responsible, but this proved to be a rather ineffective compound.

So what was it?

This question has been on everyone's mind since the emergence of 280-290lb bodybuilders from seemingly out of no-where. I always thought it must have been the emergence of igf-1, but then after researching some things, I found out that igf-1 is a nuts drug and doesn't do much. (Hey this is trevors opinion not mine-dc) What gives?

IFBBPRO: I n s u l i n! That's what gives! I've known a lot of these guys for a while now and I can unequivocally tell you that it is the result of insulin that these huge leaps have been made.
(Read the whole thing here if you want.)
http://community.hypemuscle.com/forums/hgh-igf-insulin-discussion/12329-interview-milos-abotu-insulin.html

 Yes cause we've never been fed bullshit before. Watch the radio show with Tim. He said they were using it back than. He was training in his teens in 70 s and even then found how he could gain so well when he took more insulin. Doesn't matter I'd he's a diabetic. Diabwtics need insulin yes but they can still abuse it..



He abused it and his friends asked him how to use it and rhey tried it. He says Mike Christian was a close friend and admitee on the show he used it back than.

So all everyone's 80s look phyisque is insulin physquies as well. Mike Christian wasn't the best. Tim belknap wasn't the best. Yet u think others got better without insulin. Of course fucking not.

Everyone is a abuser. They took things to the extreme why. Cause were humans we always have always will take things to the extrmeme if we want to. We are stupid and smart.


No guts in the eightys. Why what's the differance. Steroids. Gh insulin.... It's all there. What's
 Diff steroids insulin always cheap. Gh... Thousands apoun thousands till recent decade. U think all the poor bastards afford ten iu gh. Maybe two iu. But steroids and slin were cheap why not abuse those. Tim did others to no doubt were addicts right. Yet no guts..... Hmm pretty clear to me.

Trevor: What was the cause of the 20-30lb bodyweight jumps from 1994-present. I mean lets face it, Nasser El Sonbaty was an average pro until 1995 and ronnie coleman was a 2nd or 3rd tier athlete up until 1997, Jean Pierre Fux gained 40 lbs of tissue in a year and a half, chris cormier has gone from average to top 3, hell even dorian went from 230lbs to 260lbs seemingly overnight. All of these men have had lots of experience with steroids and g.h. So there had to be another factor. At first it was thought igf-1 was responsible, but this proved to be a rather ineffective compound.

So what was it?

This question has been on everyone's mind since the emergence of 280-290lb bodybuilders from seemingly out of no-where. I always thought it must have been the emergence of igf-1, but then after researching some things, I found out that igf-1 is a nuts drug and doesn't do much. (Hey this is trevors opinion not mine-dc) What gives?

IFBBPRO: I n s u l i n! That's what gives! I've known a lot of these guys for a while now and I can unequivocally tell you that it is the result of insulin that these huge leaps have been made.
(Read the whole thing here if you want.)
http://community.hypemuscle.com/forums/hgh-igf-insulin-discussion/12329-interview-milos-abotu-insulin.html

[chess315]

btw if anyone hasn't tried insulin, take a shot of humulin-R and eat a big carb meal and watch how much fucken ENERGY you have in the gym. I feel like a different person honestly, hope I'm not diabetic. Probably insulin resistant from too many carbs/anadrol. If I eat a meal without insulin I get tired as all hell super lethargic after eating, muscles are very flat without it too. Can't be good..but overall I love this shit.

its my understanding that if anything using insulin may lower your chances of becoming diabetic.

[lyquid]

btw if anyone hasn't tried insulin, take a shot of humulin-R and eat a big carb meal and watch how much fucken ENERGY you have in the gym. I feel like a different person honestly, hope I'm not diabetic. Probably insulin resistant from too many carbs/anadrol. If I eat a meal without insulin I get tired as all hell super lethargic after eating, muscles are very flat without it too. Can't be good..but overall I love this shit.

I keep trying to say how healthy insulin is for bbers.

After reading it from a doctor.

We were ment to eat very few meals a day. And fast between meals. Yet we eat six meals a day two hundred carbs a meal. Our blood sugar pancreas everything is so unhealthy . The eating is the most unheathly part here no one understands. That's what ages us that much stress on panceeas to release insulin constantly and it never releases amount for us to use cause we are so stupid and eat so much. So we have tons of sugar causing so many bad effects in our blood constantly leading to heart disease diabetis aging so on so on so on

Insulin will do its job give our pancreas a break and get us the results we want.

A very smart doctor suggest insulin use for normal people to give the pancreas a break to prolong life. We should.y eat like we do.

I am same way is my point yrs of over eating I feel so old and tired. I take insulin I feel strong for hours so awake. so full muscular so well being I feel like in fifteen. again. I have for sure made myself insulin insensitive or partial made my pancreas stop working up to par for sure.

And again look at the health effects we are doing without slin. And no guts. The proof is in real world results and pictures.

Again think hands and head.... Twice the same. Picture intestines kidneys liver stomach twice the size..... Think on Ur own for once people. So many of our top 300 lb guys here who r anti slin and pure gh cause gh15 yet all sport a gh turtle abs gut proof is in the pudding. Look at Tim and Mike Christian. again proof is in the pudding my friends. No big hands or heads or guts...... Hello none have big hands heads or guts. Hey couldn't afford gh abuse is why. Today gh abuse all around. Equals big hands big heads big guts.

[lyquid]

its my understanding that if anything using insulin may lower your chances of becoming diabetic.

Bingo. Pancreas never stops working once exo slin is out of u. U wanna be dumb and eat five heavy meals a day and damage Ur body rly badly than give Ur body a break use slin. Google people there are smart doctors even who suggest it for normal healtbly people.

[chess315]

my guess these 90s guys that where monsters and gh still costed 15$ an iu prolly where using it with t3 or dnp funny dnp came to the for front bout the same time as also and the 500-600mg cycles. Using dnp in that manner doesn't really makes since unless maybe they where doing it to stave of fat gain in short 2 week breaks from something. Its clear the most sensible way to use dnp is in low doses 100-250mg a day for 3-4 weeks. The reason the 600mg dnp cycle is common is most likely guys where shooting the shit out of insulin 50-100 ius a day for 6-12 weeks then melting the fat in a week or 2 and starting again makes sense. Its almost the same time that guys got large a rush to find drugs to melt fat happened also.

[lyquid]

my guess these 90s guys that where monsters and gh still costed 15$ an iu prolly where using it with t3 or dnp funny dnp came to the for front bout the same time as also and the 500-600mg cycles. Using dnp in that manner doesn't really makes since unless maybe they where doing it to stave of fat gain in short 2 week breaks from something. Its clear the most sensible way to use dnp is in low doses 100-250mg a day for 3-4 weeks. The reason the 600mg dnp cycle is common is most likely guys where shooting the shit out of insulin 50-100 ius a day for 6-12 weeks then melting the fat in a week or 2 and starting again makes sense. Its almost the same time that guys got large a rush to find drugs to melt fat happened also.

Come late 90 s hello massive internet usage and Chinese wide spread cheaper gh. and things just kept getting cheaper and more internet usage.

[chess315]

theres your gold ticket right there cheap muscles 30-60ius slin once 12-14% dnp and start again lol