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Re: who was the first to use slin for bbing ?
« Reply #50 on: March 08, 2012, 11:38:28 PM »
Come late 90 s hello massive internet usage and Chinese wide spread cheaper gh. and things just kept getting cheaper and more internet usage.
guys where way to big when gh was to expensive maybe a few sold enough drugs to afford it but many had to be doing with out modern gh protocols just not enough money to go around. There where to many mike mattarozos and paul demayos then to have all been running 15ius of gh. It was like all the sudden everyone turn to freaks over night couldnt have been gh imo.

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Re: who was the first to use slin for bbing ?
« Reply #51 on: March 08, 2012, 11:40:32 PM »
theres your gold ticket right there cheap muscles 30-60ius slin once 12-14% dnp and start again lol

Even i have used 30 iu before and after workout.

I have met people that are internet retarded older guys. Use to use insulin 100 iu humalog since over counter 100 iu one shot right on the tummy. Blew my mind when I seen it. Than i realised. Internet is here like highachoom rumors drama and bullshit. When theres guys that r still living in 70 and 80 s blindly shooting shit

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« Reply #52 on: March 08, 2012, 11:43:36 PM »
I just like theory I do believe they where getting 300lbs way before using 10ius of gh wide spread. I mean fucking paul demayo worked on an a street crew he wasnt spending 100$ a day on gh.

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Re: who was the first to use slin for bbing ?
« Reply #53 on: March 08, 2012, 11:44:41 PM »
guys where way to big when gh was to expensive maybe a few sold enough drugs to afford it but many had to be doing with out modern gh protocols just not enough money to go around. There where to many mike mattarozos and paul demayos then to have all been running 15ius of gh. It was like all the sudden everyone turn to freaks over night couldnt have been gh imo.


And insulin has always was cost pennys. Over counter here 30 usd. 1000 iu. Like TIM said himself more he took more he grew all bbers would have been all over this. Bbers are always addicts. I'd u hear slight rumor something works there on it. we all are.

Look at all the peptise mgf myostain half guys r drooling over myostatin shit hoping it'll be real and soon as it comes real stuff they'll shit there pants for it. I will to. Soon as we here anabolic we want it . and guys back than why would they be diff. Insulin is what we want. And insulin is synergeatic with steroids. Very synergeatic

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Re: who was the first to use slin for bbing ?
« Reply #54 on: March 08, 2012, 11:47:10 PM »
tim looks modern you can tell he isn't the same as the arnold, franco crew. looks mutates imo. One other advatage these guys had also is not dante or other people to scare them off I can just see if no internet guys would be having contests to see who could do the most if anything. Funny they all had small wastes to lol maybe the slins not the problem maybe its something else huh.

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Re: who was the first to use slin for bbing ?
« Reply #55 on: March 08, 2012, 11:50:01 PM »
What I think of gh15 is he is same as the thing he calls a liar cult now. He is a bber what r all bbers he says liars..... He will never discuss slin just like he says no bber will discuss real drugs they take. He leaves our the best drugs that's been used before he was born. And everyone who follows him is a ninja donatelll turtle belly gut boy. On tons of gh.

Maybe secret is in the insulin not the gh he tells us that will make our hands size of Andre the giant and our kidneys busting our of our backsides like love handles and intestines making us look like bloated acromeagly tiny limb big torso shit logs.

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Re: who was the first to use slin for bbing ?
« Reply #56 on: March 08, 2012, 11:52:15 PM »
tim looks modern you can tell he isn't the same as the arnold, franco crew. looks mutates imo. One other advatage these guys had also is not dante or other people to scare them off I can just see if no internet guys would be having contests to see who could do the most if anything. Funny they all had small wastes to lol maybe the slins not the problem maybe its something else huh.

I hear u there. But I still can only see it as gh over use. Like I said hands twice the size. Heads twice the size. Comes with it. Our insides guts twice the size. Everything grows together.

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« Reply #57 on: March 08, 2012, 11:53:14 PM »
I dont know this is just theory. I really have never seen someone turn fucking mutant on just gh myself. heres another to expensive to run gh guy I remember seeing this as i teen i was shook up never seen a human like that before. They where comming out of the wood works at that period.

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« Reply #58 on: March 08, 2012, 11:59:11 PM »
The gh argument has never been logical to me to many 300lbs or mutants when it was still very expensive I have no doubts it works but they were way big before abusing gh.

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Re: who was the first to use slin for bbing ?
« Reply #59 on: March 09, 2012, 12:30:40 AM »
theres your gold ticket right there cheap muscles 30-60ius slin once 12-14% dnp and start again lol

if you use steroids, the right ones you won't get too fat. Even without gh...of course you still get fatter than if you used it with gh but I didn't become a slob using insulin without gh, and grew nicely.
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Re: who was the first to use slin for bbing ?
« Reply #60 on: March 09, 2012, 12:32:29 AM »
People say slinpimp has a agenda his name is slinpimp but touts gh ... Gh15 always aas and gh. He hates pro muscle but loves pp . Competitors ...... No talk of insulin. Why insulin is cheap and over the counter online or on some places in person. So they can't make money. so let's talk about how amazing gh or aas are only .

If slin is so bad why does it seem so many used it and so many couldn't afford gh back then for that golden look.

Secret.... agenda.... They say it themaelfs can't trust anyone in the cult all lies

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Re: who was the first to use slin for bbing ?
« Reply #61 on: March 09, 2012, 12:34:44 AM »
if you use steroids, the right ones you won't get too fat. Even without gh...of course you still get fatter than if you used it with gh but I didn't become a slob using insulin without gh, and grew nicely.

The day I take slin i wake up next morning leaner. Just seems another lie slin makes u fat. If it was why are here teenage girls on girl forums taking insulin for weight loss. ehy do they talk about TIM belknap being so vasuclar and lean like no one else back then. Insulin.

U have to admit if u used like u said. Pumps fuller. And again. Leaner even.

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« Reply #62 on: March 09, 2012, 01:09:49 AM »
 Another thing they say slin makes you full and and when you quit taking it that goes away. Quit taking your dbol and tren and see what happens to lol Im not saying this is right just something i have noticed reading and studying shit.  I have only played with it never took it like i suspect. Even blp look at him he looks like a different person since he ran that slin 100ius a day.

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« Reply #63 on: March 09, 2012, 01:17:12 AM »
you can get a bodybuilder to tell you he's gay or on drugs or bangs underage girls before he will talk about his slin use.

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« Reply #64 on: March 09, 2012, 01:20:08 AM »
The day I take slin i wake up next morning leaner. Just seems another lie slin makes u fat. If it was why are here teenage girls on girl forums taking insulin for weight loss. ehy do they talk about TIM belknap being so vasuclar and lean like no one else back then. Insulin.

U have to admit if u used like u said. Pumps fuller. And again. Leaner even.
does it come down to admin protocol ? Carb and meal timing, maybe? Excessive simple carbs?

I don't know much bout slin, is there not a serious element of danger to health? Long term irreversible effects?

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« Reply #65 on: March 09, 2012, 01:53:26 AM »
milos told me that an endocrinologist from university of novi sad in yugoslavia taught him how to use it for muscle engorgement.  he then showed Dorian, Nasser, Vince Taylor how to use it.

Tim Belknap was using it in the 80's, but he was a legit diabetic

Dorian repaid him by fucking' his wife.

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« Reply #66 on: March 09, 2012, 07:27:34 AM »
Dorian repaid him by fucking' his wife.

That milamar obviously had milos pussy-whipped, she wasn't the hottest, not beautiful, a slut/whore, looking out for herself only

Let's face it, milos was a good looking guy that sold a lot of mags, I'm sure he couldve done better

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« Reply #67 on: March 09, 2012, 09:08:05 AM »
fucking love slin. slin+350mg tren a is superior than 1500mg test+900mg deca+ dbol without slin for me!  gotta watch out and stop sometimes when my face gets too big, you know phil heath offseason style? after 3-4 days off it returns to normal

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Re: who was the first to use slin for bbing ?
« Reply #68 on: March 09, 2012, 09:22:08 AM »
People say slinpimp has a agenda his name is slinpimp but touts gh ... Gh15 always aas and gh. He hates pro muscle but loves pp . Competitors ...... No talk of insulin. Why insulin is cheap and over the counter online or on some places in person. So they can't make money. so let's talk about how amazing gh or aas are only .

If slin is so bad why does it seem so many used it and so many couldn't afford gh back then for that golden look.

Secret.... agenda.... They say it themaelfs can't trust anyone in the cult all lies


Really good post.

How long before Slin kicks in? It seems to be very transient, guys stop taking it and the muscle goes.

As said a lot of the guys in the 90's put on 30lb in a year ???

I think the GH is very likely the main culprit, the clues in the name imo.
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Re: who was the first to use slin for bbing ?
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« Reply #70 on: March 09, 2012, 09:25:08 AM »
fucking love slin. slin+350mg tren a is superior than 1500mg test+900mg deca+ dbol without slin for me!  gotta watch out and stop sometimes when my face gets too big, you know phil heath offseason style? after 3-4 days off it returns to normal

Dosage u used were

I notice it worked good twenty to thirty iu a shot any less was minimal gains if any.

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Re: who was the first to use slin for bbing ?
« Reply #71 on: March 09, 2012, 09:27:20 AM »
does it come down to admin protocol ? Carb and meal timing, maybe? Excessive simple carbs?

I don't know much bout slin, is there not a serious element of danger to health? Long term irreversible effects?

All I have noticed personal experiance is low dose does nothing. Twenty iu to thirty is where I see amazing gains. Really want to up it to see how that goes.

I ate normally. After shot had some milk with coffee grinder oatmeal for a shake.

Maybe thirty mins maybe hour later had a meal. Basic whole food meal.

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« Reply #72 on: March 09, 2012, 09:30:18 AM »

Really good post.

How long before Slin kicks in? It seems to be very transient, guys stop taking it and the muscle goes.

As said a lot of the guys in the 90's put on 30lb in a year ???

I think the GH is very likely the main culprit, the clues in the name imo.


Like was said above. soon as people stop taking dbol you notice a lot of gains go as well. Really its no difderarnt.
Yup it needs to be a saying if someone can get it catchy. Hands grow twice the size. Head grows twice size. And..... Ur guts ...... Which are a lot bigger .... Grow twice the size.

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Re: who was the first to use slin for bbing ?
« Reply #73 on: March 09, 2012, 09:34:10 AM »
I beloved this sums up the problems we have with hormones stop working. And that insulin goes with anabolics more so than gh.

 It is safe to conclude something else is needed to uncover the full anabolic effect of steroids. The hormone which is the most affected by a high calorie or by a low calorie diet is insulin. Also, heavy steroid users know that past a certain amount of steroids, adding insulin will make a big difference as far as muscle gains are concerned. Insulin is thus a strong candidate as a potentiator of anabolic steroids (which we will indiscriminately refer to as androgens, steroids or anabolics). Furthermore, studies performed in trained dogs have shown a lack of insulin completely negates the anabolic effects of steroids on protein synthesis. There are some easy hypotheses such as a possible androgen receptor up regulation, a stimulation of androgen secretion, an antiaromatase effect arising from insulin. But, there is still something missing.

Using anabolics plus insulin will not make you much bigger unless you weight train. The synergy can only be realized if insulin + steroids + training are present. What is the link between those three factors? A very likely candidate is an enzyme called insulinase. As its name implies, it is an enzyme responsible for the destruction of insulin. But we are going to see it does much more than that. It is found inside many tissues of the body, particularly in muscle. What science is telling us is that insulinase is essential for insulin to provide its anti-catabolic effect on our muscles. It is also likely that insulinase is able to multiply the anabolic effects of androgens. It's worth repeating: insulin cannot stop protein catabolism without insulinase and the effects of steroids are potentiated by insulinase. It sure looks good.

Androgens are very powerful stimulators of the muscle protein synthesis rate. On the other hand, the muscle gains provided by androgens do not match this elevation in synthesis. Steroids promote anabolism to a much higher rate than they make our muscles grow. The reason for this discrepancy is that they also stimulate protein degradation. I know many people think they are anti-catabolic, but it is not the case. Anabolics stimulate protein turnover. This means they increase both synthesis and degradation of proteins. They are simply more effective at stimulating synthesis than degradation, which is why they make our muscles grow but not at a super fast rate. Look at how long it takes to grow huge muscles. If androgens were stimulating synthesis while inhibiting degradation, one would grow very, very quickly.

This is where insulin comes in. As we said, it mostly reduces protein degradation rate. It might stimulate protein synthesis right after training, but this effect is very limited in duration. Ideally, using insulin along with steroids would allow us to accelerate synthesis (thanks to anabolics) and reduce degradation (thanks to insulin). This is the best way to grow muscle fast. Unfortunately, as both insulin and anabolics need insulinase to work better, they will compete against each other for this enzyme. For natural athletes, the supply of muscle insulinase should roughly meet the demand. Now if you add anabolics, there will be less insulinase for insulin. If you do not take too high a dose of steroids, the level of insulinase should still be sufficient to allow a fair insulin-induced anti-catabolism.

But as you take more steroids, the insulinase available for insulin will be lower and lower. Insulin will lose its anti-catabolic effect. As it will still bind some insulinase, the enzyme availability for steroids will not be optimal either. Anabolics will lose some of their potency. What is important to understand is that past a certain dose, anabolics will provide their own antidote against muscle growth. The only solution (besides using fewer steroids) is to increase insulinase level. At least two factors can accomplish this feat: The first one is insulin itself. The higher the insulin level is in a target organ (muscle for example) the higher the insulinase level will be. You would expect that the body would detect the shortage of insulinase for insulin and so produce more insulin (or more insulinase). Unfortunately, this does not seem to be the case. While insulinase is crucial for the anti-catabolic effect of insulin, it does not seem as important for glucose disposal.

Insulin's main function is not to assist in muscle growth but to control glucose homeostasis. As a result, it is likely our body does not really care about a relative shortage of insulinase. In any case, we are left with a less than optimal equilibrium. It is up to the bodybuilder to react to this imbalance.

One way of increasing insulin secretion is to eat more, but you can only do so up to a point. You cannot increase your carb intake in parallel with the amount of steroids without getting too fat. Another solution is to use drugs to add or to stimulate insulin secretion. This way you get the insulin without the excess of calories. In any case you now understand why steroids work better while on a high calorie diet while they lose their potency during a diet or a shortage of insulin.

Here is a way of "artificially increasing insulin level": One dose of long acting insulin first thing in the morning (this is the only injection). Before each meal (except the pre-workout one), take a sulfonylurea (an oral anti-diabetic drug which will boost food induced insulin secretion). I like Glipizide because of its short half-life. In case you experience hypoglycaemia, you know it will not last. This is the main problem with the long acting sulfonylurea. When you are hypoglycaemic, you try to compensate by absorbing carbs. But the drug will make your pancreas secrete even more insulin before the carbs can hit the blood. It makes the hypoglycaemia worse - not better.

In case of problems, make sure you get some ready-to-inject Glucagon (sold as "insulin emergency kits" in drugstores). An additional benefit of the Glipizide is that it induces the release of GH on top of insulin which is beneficial for non diabetics.

This is a nice way to fix the reduced anticatabolic property of insulin. Unfortunately, this will not yet provide the optimal amount of insulinase to have steroids work better. We said that training was the third key ingredient in this synergy. This is because training can stimulate insulinase activity. Not any exercise will do. The traumatic ones inducing muscle soreness are the most effective. It is the factors inducing soreness which will trigger this increase in insulinase. On the other hand, you do not want to create too much soreness as it will temporarily reduce the effects of insulin and androgens by impairing their effects at the level of their respective receptors. What you want is mild but frequent soreness along with some very frequent pumping sessions. Do not forget both androgens and insulin circulates in the blood. The more blood you get into the muscles (and the longer it stays), the more your muscles will be "drenched" in those two hormones. Please note that insulinase is produced locally in the trained muscles only. It does not circulate into the blood. By Michalovich Greutstein

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Re: who was the first to use slin for bbing ?
« Reply #74 on: March 09, 2012, 09:39:08 AM »
Another thing they say slin makes you full and and when you quit taking it that goes away. Quit taking your dbol and tren and see what happens to lol Im not saying this is right just something i have noticed reading and studying shit.  I have only played with it never took it like i suspect. Even blp look at him he looks like a different person since he ran that slin 100ius a day.

Exactly. U played around with what low dose or. U have to try it abit higher for sure. Guys who say its shit or don't notice it is like guys running half a ml test a week for a cycle.