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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: nosleep on March 21, 2012, 08:50:17 AM
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YOU'VE EXPLAINED WHAT EQ DOES....CAPPED DELTS, CHISELED/HORSE LOOK.
YOU'VE EXPLAINED WITH PHARM GRADE GH DOES...SEPERATION IN BETWEEN MUSCLES, THIN SKIN, FAT LOSS, 3D.
YOU'VE EXPLAINED WHAT TESTOSTERONE DOES....THICKNESS.
YOU'VE EXPLAINED WHAT TREN ACE DOES....BURN FAT, 3D, PREMIERE LBM BUILDER.
BUT CAN YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC WITH THAT PRIMO ACE DOES?
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THAT'S GREAT FELLA! I WAS THINKIN' ABOUT THE PRIMOBOLANA SPECIFIC LOOK TOO!
GH, IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE IN BODYBUILDER LOOK IF HE'S ON PHENYLPROPTEST OR PROPTEST?
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BUMP
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bump to this wanted to run some primo
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correct me if im wrong, but i think he also explained what drol does (when used with gh),,blow up tiny arms
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DROL WILL JUST BLOW U UP ENTIRELY.
AS FOR PRIMO, I GET IT NOW. SMOOF FILLED ME IN. HONESTLY I SAW IT ON PRIMO E TOO THo, BUT I GUESS I CAN COMPARE TO ACE TOO.
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WHAT PRIMO ACE DOES IS INCREASE PROFFIT TO GENTLEMAN GH15 AT THE SAME TIME KIDS LIKE YOU GET LIED TO BY SOME BIG SHARK DEALER.
BEST WISHES TO YOU NOSLEEP, OPEN YOUR EYES.
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WHAT PRIMO ACE DOES IS INCREASE PROFFIT TO GENTLEMAN GH15 AT THE SAME TIME KIDS LIKE YOU GET LIED TO BY SOME BIG SHARK DEALER.
BEST WISHES TO YOU NOSLEEP, OPEN YOUR EYES.
YOU ARE STATING GH15 IS STRANGO?
IF SO, THEN SHIT. THIS MAKES INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF SENSE, CONSIDERING HE'D KNOW WHAT PRO'S ORDER & HOW MUCH.
YOU REALLY OPENED MY EYES.
P.S GH15 IF YOU ARE REALLY STRANGO, THX BRO. UR TREN ACE IS DOING WONDERFUL THINGS, YOUR VAR TOO, AND WE'LL SEE ABOUT YOUR PRIMO ACE. START MAKING THE VAR CAPS 25MG NOT 50MG. HAVE YOU EVER USED YOUR OWN DAMN VAR? TAKE 50MG AND YOU'LL DIE FROM A HEADACHE GODDAMNIT. IT REALLY HURT MY HEAD THAT ONE TIME. I OPEN UP THE DAMN CAP AND SPLIT IT IN 25MG INCREMENTS. THAT HEADACHE WAS SO BAD I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO DIE.
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^^ LOL
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if tren ace and tren e are basically the same thing, esters aside, why use the ace ester ?
i understand it kicks in quicker and also leaves quicker in case of sides but if the effect or end result is the same
why pin so many times?
is there a visual difference between the two esters, meaning on the body?
i just find it confusing
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if tren ace and tren e are basically the same thing, esters aside, why use the ace ester ?
i understand it kicks in quicker and also leaves quicker in case of sides but if the effect or end result is the same
why pin so many times?
is there a visual difference between the two esters, meaning on the body?
i just find it confusing
On a quick note, you get more steroid per amount of ml with the acetate ester...
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so a couple of ml/mg really affect the results that dramatically?
if i remember a chart i once seen the difference is really minimal. but i could be wrong.
so its that simple? more active steroid equals more results... who would have thought? ::)
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so a couple of ml/mg really affect the results that dramatically?
if i remember a chart i once seen the difference is really minimal. but i could be wrong.
so its that simple? more active steroid equals more results... who would have thought? ::)
The issue with the ace vs. enth ester is more so the sides. If frequency of injections is the root of your problems, you are missing out on the name of the game. That's the honest truth.
Nosleep, let me know how that ace treats you. Here or on AB. I got some of Strango's now, too, and will run it next week in a blend mix that Ross suggested.
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if tren ace and tren e are basically the same thing, esters aside, why use the ace ester ?
i understand it kicks in quicker and also leaves quicker in case of sides but if the effect or end result is the same
why pin so many times?
is there a visual difference between the two esters, meaning on the body?
i just find it confusing
tren e gives me bad shoulder acne, tried several different labs, all the same, apart from that I honestly can't tell the difference to tren a, except it's cheaper, fewer injects. Don't jab yourself with tren e unless you've tried tren a first and can handle the other sides (night sweats, shorter fuse) I guess.
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i believe gh15 has stated tren must always be ace,,,in and out drugs,,,that make changes every day,,,and tren e is pure balonie and should not be used.
i can confirm that EQ made my traps stand up on its own on gh15 bodybuilding for poor cycle,,,priming with gh then introducing EQ made my traps stand up within 2 weeks, not 5-6 but 2 weeks,,,EL eq was very strong,,,still not sure if it was really EQ in that vial but whatever it was,,,very powerful stuff and it hit my traps like lightning
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anyone have a link of gh15's original thread on his write up for primo ace? It was like a month ago or something. I'm thinking about adding it to my next blast
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primobolana if legit is one of the biggest anabolic agents you can ever find,, along with hgh and trenbolona it transfer you into a very eficitn muscle machine,, tight large thick and dense ,, sharpness and actual lean muscle growth development from the inside of the muscle with no water retention on the outside what so ever
now! the trick with primobolana that no one will tell you ,, and this is a main trick of lay nortom and rest of the fake natural gang is as folow,,
they use PRIMOBOLANA ACATATO! NOT DEPOT NOT LONG ESTER BUT SHORT ESTER THAT LAST 1-2 DAYS,, they use an injectable version of the tablet from the past those old tablet from turky ,, this ! is what caused s quick and efective muscle growth and from the inside out while tightening the bodybuild up and sharpening him getting detail out ,, ofcourse water is also dependent of hgh ...and testosterona and anadrola and many otheer anabolic steroid,, but! when it come to primobolana ACATATO ! this is the main secret of fake natural along with trenbolona acatato
the changed with primbolona short ester are very fast,, it cause female to actualy look like bodybuild,, it make them tight hard and increase muscle diameter all same time ,, same with male bodybuild
we use alot of primobolna acatato ,, between 600 to 1500 mg a week and it deliver amazing amazing result when go with trenbolona and hgh but also by itself IF LEGIT
the legitimcay of the product primobolana is alway sin question this is why i only recomend top chefs thaty i approved before for purchasing this from ,, you do not just buy it for 40 dolaros doesnt work this way ,, it is the magic aas in a bottle
primobolana is only second to trenbolona and! it is magic in a bottle same as hgh
it need to be done right ,, 200 mg every 2 day or 200 mg every day ,, then you see very quick how head get small and body gets large and incharge ,, ofcourse together with human growth hormone you become top amatuer super fast
1000 mg of legit primobolana acatato
15 iu of legit gh
200 mg of legit testosterona
500-1000 mg of trenbolona
and few more products create MANY MANY TOP AMATUERS YOU SEE IN THE PAST AND ALSO NOW DAY ,, THE PROBLEM AS ALWYS NOW DAY IS WITH INSULINA ABUSE
gh15 approved/bible indx
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Swlabr should make an online gh15 dictionary ;D
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primobolana if legit is one of the biggest anabolic agents you can ever find,, along with hgh and trenbolona it transfer you into a very eficitn muscle machine,, tight large thick and dense ,, sharpness and actual lean muscle growth development from the inside of the muscle with no water retention on the outside what so ever
now! the trick with primobolana that no one will tell you ,, and this is a main trick of lay nortom and rest of the fake natural gang is as folow,,
they use PRIMOBOLANA ACATATO! NOT DEPOT NOT LONG ESTER BUT SHORT ESTER THAT LAST 1-2 DAYS,, they use an injectable version of the tablet from the past those old tablet from turky ,, this ! is what caused s quick and efective muscle growth and from the inside out while tightening the bodybuild up and sharpening him getting detail out ,, ofcourse water is also dependent of hgh ...and testosterona and anadrola and many otheer anabolic steroid,, but! when it come to primobolana ACATATO ! this is the main secret of fake natural along with trenbolona acatato
the changed with primbolona short ester are very fast,, it cause female to actualy look like bodybuild,, it make them tight hard and increase muscle diameter all same time ,, same with male bodybuild
we use alot of primobolna acatato ,, between 600 to 1500 mg a week and it deliver amazing amazing result when go with trenbolona and hgh but also by itself IF LEGIT
the legitimcay of the product primobolana is alway sin question this is why i only recomend top chefs thaty i approved before for purchasing this from ,, you do not just buy it for 40 dolaros doesnt work this way ,, it is the magic aas in a bottle
primobolana is only second to trenbolona and! it is magic in a bottle same as hgh
it need to be done right ,, 200 mg every 2 day or 200 mg every day ,, then you see very quick how head get small and body gets large and incharge ,, ofcourse together with human growth hormone you become top amatuer super fast
1000 mg of legit primobolana acatato
15 iu of legit gh
200 mg of legit testosterona
500-1000 mg of trenbolona
and few more products create MANY MANY TOP AMATUERS YOU SEE IN THE PAST AND ALSO NOW DAY ,, THE PROBLEM AS ALWYS NOW DAY IS WITH INSULINA ABUSE
gh15 approved/bible indx
You are the man! I try to bookmark his more important posts but I miss some of them.
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Swlabr should make an online gh15 dictionary ;D
http://gh15biblebodybuild.blogspot.com/
hasn't been updated in a month but very good stuff
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http://gh15biblebodybuild.blogspot.com/
hasn't been updated in a month but very good stuff
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that's only 1 website with the bible......... :o
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I fucking love primo at 100 to 150mg/day
it makes you hard, cut and adds strength, but it makes working out fucking suck because you get so hard, and you stay that way
for bbing, it's top notch shit
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Swlabr should make an online gh15 dictionary ;D
He' good right? That other thread he did was awesome, had all kinds of stuff I hadn't read in awhile. People can say whatever about gh being repetitive but take the time and start reading some older posts. It's top notch info. It's a shame all the time and posting he's had to waist with all these effin gimmicks
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Bump for GOD answer that.
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if tren ace and tren e are basically the same thing, esters aside, why use the ace ester ?
i understand it kicks in quicker and also leaves quicker in case of sides but if the effect or end result is the same
why pin so many times?
is there a visual difference between the two esters, meaning on the body?
i just find it confusing
it is confusing. and science can't offer an explanation. yes, in theory they are they same, but everyone has the same testimonial: ace is far superior. even myself. i've now ran both and i have to agree.
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correct me if im wrong, but i think he also explained what drol does (when used with gh),,blow up tiny arms
He said you can blow up from within after having primed the body with GH at a low bf.
Not sure he said anything about blowing up tiny arms. There was a protocol in a separate thread on how to put arm size.
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what is almost better than primo is 1-Testosterone cypionate. that is all muscle gain. No water retention you just blow up with muscle. painfull and hard to find but back in the day it was very easy to find hell you could buy it over the counter untill they scheduled it on jan 20th 2005. very similar to primo. but more like enanthate. like gh15 said acetate gets out of the blood faster and alot of naturals cheat using acetate form of primo and still claim they are natural.You can run across 1-Test cypionate every once in aawhile but it is not the same quality as the HM gear 1-Test cypionate of 4 Test cypionate or even 19nordiol all were made in a injectable form by HMgear they put it in MTC oil. It was painfull but very effective similar to primo if not better in some ways.
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what is almost better than primo is 1-Testosterone cypionate. that is all muscle gain. No water retention you just blow up with muscle. painfull and hard to find but back in the day it was very easy to find hell you could buy it over the counter untill they scheduled it on jan 20th 2005. very similar to primo. but more like enanthate. like gh15 said acetate gets out of the blood faster and alot of naturals cheat using acetate form of primo and still claim they are natural.You can run across 1-Test cypionate every once in aawhile but it is not the same quality as the HM gear 1-Test cypionate of 4 Test cypionate or even 19nordiol all were made in a injectable form by HMgear they put it in MTC oil. It was painfull but very effective similar to primo if not better in some ways.
I personally found 1-Test Cyp to be useless. The shots were some of the most painful I've ever experienced and the results were virtually non-existent. I definitely wouldn't call it "almost better than primo".
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i can easily get primo e but hard time finding ace, most here that have used it or using now, hows the long ester compared to short?
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i can easily get primo e but hard time finding ace, most here that have used it or using now, hows the long ester compared to short?
YOULL BE FINE WITH E. USED BOTH.
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what is almost better than primo is 1-Testosterone cypionate. that is all muscle gain. No water retention you just blow up with muscle. painfull and hard to find but back in the day it was very easy to find hell you could buy it over the counter untill they scheduled it on jan 20th 2005. very similar to primo. but more like enanthate. like gh15 said acetate gets out of the blood faster and alot of naturals cheat using acetate form of primo and still claim they are natural.You can run across 1-Test cypionate every once in aawhile but it is not the same quality as the HM gear 1-Test cypionate of 4 Test cypionate or even 19nordiol all were made in a injectable form by HMgear they put it in MTC oil. It was painfull but very effective similar to primo if not better in some ways.
cypinate is not noticeably different than enanthate although the problem with it is the test falls out of suspension and crystallizes. i had some and it was lagit, but i would have to hold it in a pan of near boiling water for ten minutes before each inject to get it to re-homogenize.
i thought there was something wrong with my gear, but i later read an article in md that llewellyn wrote and he confirmed this tendency of cypionate.
anyway, big inconvenience.
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cypinate is not noticeably different than enanthate although the problem with it is the test falls out of suspension and crystallizes. i had some and it was lagit, but i would have to hold it in a pan of near boiling water for ten minutes before each inject to get it to re-homogenize.
i thought there was something wrong with my gear, but i later read an article in md that llewellyn wrote and he confirmed this tendency of cypionate.
anyway, big inconvenience.
1-test cyp is something different than test cyp
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YOULL BE FINE WITH E. USED BOTH.
What's the difference in the effects to the body between Primo A and Primo E? I know the primo ace goes into effect quicker and stays for a short time compared to primo e.
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I think this obsession with certain esters is getting a little out of hand.
Yea, I prefer test prop over enanthate, and I do think NPP is better than deca, but it really doesn't matter that much.
I just switched from Mast P to Mast E, I can't tell a difference.
I have never used Primo A, I have one 10ml vial of it and my supplier discontinued it. I am a Primo E addict, I stayed on
it most of last year, and came off just before New Years. I was planning on starting again and using the Primo A as a kick
start. Primo E kicks ass, I can't imagine the acetate version being that much better.
I really don't get this whole 'in fast' 'out fast' thing when everyone is staying on these compounds for 3-6 months straight.
I can see short esters being important if you are tested or if you are doing a short cycle, but not when you are on the same
shit practically year round.
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DROL WILL JUST BLOW U UP ENTIRELY.
AS FOR PRIMO, I GET IT NOW. SMOOF FILLED ME IN. HONESTLY I SAW IT ON PRIMO E TOO THo, BUT I GUESS I CAN COMPARE TO ACE TOO.
what is this drol?halodrol?anadrol?
sorry for the bump LOL
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what is this drol?halodrol?anadrol?
sorry for the bump LOL
Anadrol
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I personally found 1-Test Cyp to be useless. The shots were some of the most painful I've ever experienced and the results were virtually non-existent. I definitely wouldn't call it "almost better than primo".
The shots can be painfull but if you get high quality 1-Test cypionate you will get some solid muscle gains. throw some 1 Test cypionate in some MCT oi and the shots will still be somewhat painfull but if the raw is high quality you will get pure muscle gain! I wouldn't underestimate 1-Test Cypionate only the person who is getting the raw material and brewing it. I have blown up on 1-Test cyp as have many others. Their was alot better batches of 1-Test cypionate back in the mid 2000's. Now it is a crapshoot the quality of 1-Test cypionate you will receive.You are right it will cause painfull shots but some are real horribe all depends on who cooks it there are ways cooks can make it less painfull.
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He said you can blow up from within after having primed the body with GH at a low bf.
Not sure he said anything about blowing up tiny arms. There was a protocol in a separate thread on how to put arm size.
where the fuck can i find this thread man?!
i need it ASAP ;D
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where the fuck can i find this thread man?!
i need it ASAP ;D
If i come across the post bro, i will post it here.
It was quite a extensive protocol.
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If i come across the post bro, i will post it here.
It was quite a extensive protocol.
thanks man, i'd really appreciate dat 8)
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u mean this?
many fellas ask reptedly whats secrets i can give to grow arm ,, they want philsulina arm philsulina arm,,
alright,, you ONLY HAVE PHILSULINA ARM IS YOU PUT IN IT DAMN SEO! same for jason arm ,, what i can help yo uwith is to get your arm to 19 inches! of quality!
gh15 is going to lay here a a specific program to gain those 1-2 inches you all want so much afgter you stuck at 17 inches on hormones,, remember we are talking quality 17 inches up to quality 18-19 inches...not balonie fatzos but quality as in SINGLE DIGIT BODYFAT
you first and formost start from SINGLE BODYFAT,, i want each one on this program to be in the singles,, no 12 no 13 thinking you are 9 no! i want you to start at 8% or under,, i dont care if you hold the niagra falls on you ...but the important thing is that you start 8% or under,, now! this is the routine i will specify ...it wont have any marvelous food lol nor will it have any marvelous training execersizes,,,what it wil have in it is HORMONES ,, so get book and pen and start writing,, or in generation nothingness language ...just copy and paste or put on face book ,, anything you want ASIDE FROM PUTTING IT ON DIFF BOARDINGS,, I DONT WANT THIS ON DIFF BOARDINGS!,,they will probbaly steal it but dont make it easy for them ...i dont want my pupils to put it on other boardings,, thank you
ok
you got down to 8% on hormones ofcourse,, so you have subsential size to your arm ,, 17 inch...
now how do you get up in inches? what is the big secret behind it,,
the big secret behind it is hidden in few vials
vial 1 = testosterona no ester also known as suspension ,,
vial 2 = dianabola vial ,, liquid INJECTABLE dianabola or tablets will do too...liquid will be better it wil make you able to pull it much longer in duration of intake and hunger will just go higher and higher
vial 3 human growth hormone
vial 4 = testosterona enantat
vial 5 = equipona
vial 6 = trenbolona ace
i want you to get down to 8% or under with the hgh and trenbolona! then! i want you to take those out! do not use them anymore and insted introduce the following to your blood
testosterona no ester = 50mg a day
dianabola = 25 mg a day
testosterona enantato = 300-600mg every 2-3 day
equipona = 300mg every 2 days
again no! no! hgh and no trenbolona ace,,
now do this for a week you will start seeing your arms growing it wil be in incremenetds of 1/4 of an inch quality growth ,, you can increase tne to 100 mg a day as in 50mg 2 times a day and dianabola to 50mg a day as in 25 mg 2 times a day speced evenly
go this way until your body lose some of its sculpting illusion ,, it wont be fast if you are low bodyfat ,,infact you will look more conditioned when gh is out because water will go down ....so you will look more condition but less 3 dimentional,,WAIT WITH THE GH UNTIL the mirror or camera tells you you lose some of the sclpting illusion ...you will see it mainly in the delts...
then! go back on hgh add it....your arms will already be bigger and will be ready for sculpting exlosion and polished tighening done by the gh ....again add the gh only! when you got extra size on the arms! only after....it should be about 2 months break from gh betwen 4 week and 8 week break can be a little less with some
when you intriduce the hgh again you can also add insulina to start creating total mutatiton ...by this time your arms will already have new size on them of about 1/2 an inch to an inch ...the hgh and insulina wil take it past 19 and maybe into the 20s depending ...over that it is usualy very high doses of hgh and insulina and ofcourse seo for 5'8 5'9 and 5'10
ther eis one thing that dont change and it is the testosterona enantato dose...it is alwys 300-600mg every 2 day ...either enantato or sustanona ...but you get the idea..canbe both 1 inject of each,, the rest always change
most important factor that will grow your arms in size will be the addition of testosterona no ester INTO THE BLOOD ALL AT ONCE...and dianabola in an injectable form preferably ,, tabs are ok too but those 2 are must when you come off trenbolona and hgh...A MUST! testosterona enantato by itself will not make it happen ,, you need all the testosterona at once! into the blood all at once! with no ester attached,, and the dianabol is also into the blood all at once ,, no waiting,,
the above is garenteed extra size on arms,, quality size in a pretty short period of time,, about 2-3 month for extra 1/2 to an inch and 2 inch or over after 6-12 months when gh is reintroduced ,,
this is how you take 17 inch and make them 19 inch my friends,,,not special foods... not special training... no charlie 7 and not hurley 18 ,,
this is it
any question in regarding to this shoudl be put here in the tread not in pms ,, i dont have much time to red pms easy to read the questions here in regarding this
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thanks man
and it's very interesting to me that he basically says that it's all drugs and that training pretty much means fuck all
honestly, i don't believe that, as i believe that correct and effective training plays a HUGE ROLE
but that's just my opinion