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Kony 2012 = load of bullshit meant to protect Obama's aggressive foreign war in support of the Ugandan dictatorship which committed genocide against Kony's people... don't forget that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Rutgers Gay Suicide = gay dude takes things too seriously and offs himself, his roommate gets possibly ten years in prison for a "hate crime" (more bullshit). Of course this is used to highlight "homophobia" in the US in an election year where the first President to allow gays to openly serve in the military is up for re-election.
Trayvon Martin Shooting = 17 year old black male who was 6'3 gets shot to death by a fat and average height mixed race dude claiming self-defense. And BTW, the 17 year old was dealing drugs via facebook. Of course the left-wing media fucks this one up by posting pics of the black dude when he was 12 years old, not 17, in order to drum up sympathy. And now the shooter is being portrayed as a white racist in an election year where the first ever black President is up for re-election.
Who else is connecting the dots?
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yeah, it's skewed, but the point is mute.
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yeah, it's skewed, but the point is mute.
Point is mute? Why?
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Kony 2012 = load of bullshit meant to protect Obama's aggressive foreign war in support of the Ugandan dictatorship which committed genocide against Kony's people... don't forget that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Rutgers Gay Suicide = gay dude takes things too seriously and offs himself, his roommate gets possibly ten years in prison for a "hate crime" (more bullshit). Of course this is used to highlight "homophobia" in the US in an election year where the first President to allow gays to openly serve in the military is up for re-election.
Trayvon Martin Shooting = 17 year old black male who was 6'3 gets shot to death by a fat and average height mixed race dude claiming self-defense. And BTW, the 17 year old was dealing drugs via facebook. Of course the left-wing media fucks this one up by posting pics of the black dude when he was 12 years old, not 17, in order to drum up sympathy. And now the shooter is being portrayed as a white racist in an election year where the first ever black President is up for re-election.
Who else is connecting the dots?
go ahead and connect them for us
can't wait to hear this shit
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go ahead and connect them for us
can't wait to hear this shit
Already did. They're all non-stories pushed by the MSM in order to support Obama's re-election.
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Already did. They're all non-stories pushed by the MSM in order to support Obama's re-election.
How do these stories promote Obama
Do you think there is some coordination on these stories or is it just "good luck" for Obama?
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How do these stories promote Obama
Do you think there is some coordination on these stories or is it just "good luck" for Obama?
Why is the Martin story even getting any publicity at all? Black kids get shot every day of the week and no one ever hears about it.
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Already did. They're all non-stories pushed by the MSM in order to support Obama's re-election.
Bingo. It's all about false narrative the msm tries to create and brainwash people into believing.
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I dont care if Trayvon sold drugs - he belonged in prison for selling drugs.
But when wanna be cops have ANY right to get out of their vehicles, CHASE a person down, ENGAGE in a fight, then SHOOT them - Nope, that's not america. Fuck that. If the kid was selling drugs, and it appears he was, then you prosecute to the extent of the law. You don't give wannabe cops with their permits the ability to chase and shoot people they don't like the looks of.
I agree with the original poster that this race/gay stuff is bullshit wedge issues designed to piss people off and vote for the dem, I get that.
But this case, it's not about race. It's about some wannabe cop playing hero when the real cops told him to stay in the fcking truck. did you hear the tapes? hannit played it. He's running thru the streets chasing this kid like he's jason Bourne saving the fcking world. Fuck that. get your stupid ass back in the truck and meet the cops by the mailboxes like you were told to do. This hero bullshit got someone killed.
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Sure thing 240.......
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Spike Lee retweets George Zimmerman’s address
(http://thisistwitchy.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/spike-lee-retweets-1.jpg?w=430&h=168)
The address has been re-tweeted hundreds or thousands of times, and some of those tweets include threats to Zimmerman’s safety:
http://twitchy.com/2012/03/24/spike-lee-retweets-george-zimmermans-address-threats/
Good to see the leftist/black racism out in the open. If Zimmerman gets killed does that mean Obama has his blood on his hands? He did decide to interject himself into a non-event.
I, too, am amazed at how this non-story became national news a month after it happened. Nothing agenda-driven about that! ::)
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The Death of Trayvon Martin: Is There Nothing Progressives Won’t Exploit?
Townhall.com ^ | March 25, 2012 | Derek Hunter
Posted on March 25, 2012 3:51:36 AM EDT by Kaslin
A 17-year-old kid is shot dead. Police are investigating…and progressives see an opportunity. The Trayvon Martin case, in addition to being a tragedy, is a case study in political exploitation and progressive tactics.
The shooting death of a 17-year-old is horrible, whatever the circumstances and no matter their race. But progressives seem to care about this case only because of the race of the victim. There are thousands of murders that don’t “fit the bill” for exploitation and thus are ignored by these self-appointed “justice seekers.”
What happened that night? I don’t know. But neither do any of the race hustlers, such as Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, who speak of it as if they are clairvoyant. They care deeply about Trayvon’s family… as long as there are cameras around.
This lack of actual knowledge doesn’t stop progressives – many of whom call for due process rights and the presumption of innocence for terror suspects in Guantanamo Bay – from demanding the head of George Zimmerman, the shooter in this case.
The hypocrisy runs deep.
I understand the tragedy here but not the selective outrage. There are thousands of murders in this country each year. How many have you heard of? A large percentage of those murder victims are younger than 30. How many have you heard of? Only a few.
How many cause people to take to the streets in protest? How many occupy a large portion of cable news? How many do these progressives screaming for the head of George Zimmerman ever mention on their TV or radio shows?
You know the answer.
For progressives to care about someone who has been killed there must be an ulterior motive. In the case of Trayvon Martin, there are many.
First, race. That news outlets can’t talk about this case without mentioning Trayvon’s race is a testament to how successful progressives have been in instilling a segregationist mindset in the media. That they rarely mention the shooter’s race is a testament to just how far progressives will go to exploit tragedy to advance their divide and conquer agenda. Zimmerman is Hispanic, not white, as originally thought. Since the race-hustling machine was already in motion and impossible to stop, they and their fellow travellers in the media simply ignore it.
Bill Maher, HBO’s resident crap-flinging monkey, tweeted, “No probable cause in #TrayvonMartin murder? If a dead unarmed teen and an angry racist with a smoking gun is too subtle a clue, what isn't?”
Is Zimmerman a racist? I have no idea (his father and neighbor say no), but I do know Bill Maher has no idea either. But that doesn’t stop progressive Maher from making a definitive statement on the issue. Facts don’t matter in pursuit of the agenda.
Second, policy. Progressives always have hated Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” self-defense law. This case offered an opportunity to demonize it, and they took it – even though it does not apply to this case. Zimmerman wasn’t “standing his ground;” he was following Martin. Whatever happened when they engaged in their confrontation is a separate matter.
But again, facts don’t matter. The fascist progressives blame the law, almost as much as the shooter, for Martin’s death. Before any investigation is complete, calls for repeal (which were there before the shooting) are getting louder and louder. Mindless media drones and the professionally outraged progressive mob are calling for repeal. Screw facts; they demand action.
Third, politics. The one thing progressives value above all else is political power. They will dance on Trayvon Martin’s grave to keep people divided into the groups and sub-groups they’ve worked so hard to create and manipulate.
Media Matters, a fascistic group of anti-First Amendment progressives whose mission is allegedly to correct conservative bias in the media, has been promoting the Trayvon Martin story. What bias is there in this case? No one, right or left, doesn’t consider this a tragedy. It’s just that some don’t want to call for more blood without an investigation. But when Media Matters is involved, you can bet the Democrat Party is pulling the strings. Enter MSNBC.
MSNBC’s lineup is a who’s who of detestable bigots and professional hatemongers whose only goal in life is to advance the progressive agenda at all costs. Rather than focus on the life of Trayvon or the tragedy of his death, MSNBC had a segment entitled “The GOP agenda that produced ‘Stand Your Ground’ laws.” The dots were laid out so plainly even most of their intelligence-challenged audience could connect them – GOP pushed Stand Your Ground, Stand Your Ground is responsible for Trayvon’s death, therefore the GOP is responsible for Trayvon’s death.
Since many of the uninformed who watch MSNBC need things spelled out for them because they’re too busy trying to figure out why they can’t eat tomato soup with a fork, fill-in host and noted idiot racist Karen Finney went all-in. Mimicking the time progressives blamed Sarah Palin for the tragic Tucson shooting, only to have the insane man behind it be exposed as an anti-war, anti-Bush leftist, Finney blamed Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney for the death of Trayvon.
The only thing more disgusting than Finney knowingly (and believe me, she knows) exploiting the death of a 17-year-old for political purposes, or a “news” organization broadcasting that on their network is knowing of the other deaths and murders they willingly ignore because the victims, the perpetrators or both have the incorrect skin pigment to advance their agenda.
A human life is a human life to everyone – well,, to everyone but progressives. To them, a human life is a tool, a toy, a means by which their anti-liberty, anti-American agenda can be advanced, provided those involved in taking it have the correct type and order of melanin, genitals or any other subdividing characteristics they deem worthy of outrage. The rest? The thousands who don’t fit their mold? They can rot. They can rot just like those who fit the mold in the past, served their purpose and are now forgotten for new pawns.
The death of Trayvon Martin is a tragedy, just as the death of every person who passes in such a matter is a tragedy. How it came to be will be determined in the due course of an honest investigation, not by exploiting a family’s tragedy for votes and ratings.
The only way to give Trayvon justice, for non-progressives still interested in such things, is to let the investigation lead where it goes, not pass the same prejudgment on George Zimmerman progressives accuse him of passing on Trayvon. It’s time for progressives to stop dancing on Trayvon Martin’s grave, to stop dancing on the graves of all the victims they exploit, take off their bigoted blinders and join the rest of society.
They won’t. They can’t. It’s who they are. So it’s up to the rest of us to help them at the ballot box by continually rejecting any and everyone who would seek to abuse victims for political gain. Especially when that trail leads to the White House.
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I dont care if Trayvon sold drugs - he belonged in prison for selling drugs.
But when wanna be cops have ANY right to get out of their vehicles, CHASE a person down, ENGAGE in a fight, then SHOOT them - Nope, that's not america. Fuck that. If the kid was selling drugs, and it appears he was, then you prosecute to the extent of the law. You don't give wannabe cops with their permits the ability to chase and shoot people they don't like the looks of.
I agree with the original poster that this race/gay stuff is bullshit wedge issues designed to piss people off and vote for the dem, I get that.
But this case, it's not about race. It's about some wannabe cop playing hero when the real cops told him to stay in the fcking truck. did you hear the tapes? hannit played it. He's running thru the streets chasing this kid like he's jason Bourne saving the fcking world. Fuck that. get your stupid ass back in the truck and meet the cops by the mailboxes like you were told to do. This hero bullshit got someone killed.
Dude, you've already convicted this guy based on his media trial. ::)
How the fuck is he ever going to get treated fairly.
Duke Lacrosse anyone?
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Thats thee 240 MO.....nobody here was there. Nobody knows. We have what the media is saying...so witness and the cops.
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Was Trayvon Martin really just a thug who got what he deserved? (Yahoo! - Answers)
Yahoo! - Answers ^ | March 22, 2012
Posted on March 25, 2012 10:47:18 AM EDT by E. Pluribus Unum
George called 911 to report a suspicious person. As he got off the phone the kid attacked him and started beating the crap out of him and slamming his head against the walkway. All the while saying "you're gunna die tonight motherxxxxxx". George was screaming help when someone in a nearby apartment called 911 again. George's shirt came up while the kid was beating him, revealing the gun that he is licensed to carry. The kid went for the gun and they struggled for it, George ended up shooting the kid and saving his own life. All these people on yahoo saying that he should be in jail when they don't even know what happened. George is the brother-in-law of one of our good family friends, works with my parents, and is one of the nicest most gentle people you will ever meet. He's completely devastated that this happened and has barely been functional from the guilt. No one shoots someone for no reason, and especially not George. And they need to stop pulling the race card, George is Hispanic, not white."
(Excerpt) Read more at answers.yahoo.com ...
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Yeah, it sucks the kid died... but why the fuck is this such a huge news story?
I was watching MSNBC on the treadmill today at the gym (cant change the channel), and the commentator literally said "Is there any way to justify this NOT being racially motivated? I dont believe so."
The whole time talking like this was a white man who shot the black kid because he was black, going on about how everyone percieves people of darker skin color as being more and more violent (gee, wonder where that stereotype comes from).
I would have no problem with this guy going to jail IF its what the media says it is.
But the more I read, the more it seems like a huge twist to drum up some sort of support for something.
I dont know whether its for re-election support, gun control, hate crimes, or what... but this is just rediculous.
And its funny Howard, 1st thing I thought when I listened to the commentators spin the whole conversation so that the black dude was this poor innocent little kid shot by the big bad white man, was that they were turning this into an opportunity to use for some goal.
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Why is the Martin story even getting any publicity at all? Black kids get shot every day of the week and no one ever hears about it.
mabye because the the parents and the thousands of people protesting
the fact that their is a 911 tape from seconds prior the event and it's a unarmed kid being shot and yet no one is arrested
the media LIVES for this kind of story
no way they are going to ignore it
it's not a "non-story" but rather an ongoing story that is still unfolding
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How do these stories promote Obama
Do you think there is some coordination on these stories or is it just "good luck" for Obama?
I spelled it out in the OP:
- Kony 2012: Justification for Obama's aggressive and imperialist foreign war in support of a tinpot dictator halfway across the world. This will help unite Obama's base by squashing anti-war rhetoric.
- Rutgers Gay Suicide: Used to drum up fears of widespread homophobia in an election year where the first President to allow gays to openly serve in the military is up for re-election. This will further unite Obama's base.
- Trayvon Martin Shooting: Used to drum up fears of widespread racism (despite the facts of the case) in an election year where the country's first black President is up for re-election.
And no, I do not believe there is widespread coordination. But I do think that each of these stories coming out reveals the pro-Establishment Left bias of the MSM.
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mabye because the the parents and the thousands of people protesting
the fact that their is a 911 tape from seconds prior the event and it's a unarmed kid being shot and yet no one is arrested
the media LIVES for this kind of story
no way they are going to ignore it
it's not a "non-story" but rather an ongoing story that is still unfolding
Yes, you are correct, the media lives for the kind of story where they can turn a mistaken shooting into a racially motivated hate crime despite the facts of the case.
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I spelled it out in the OP:
- Kony 2012: Justification for Obama's aggressive and imperialist foreign war in support of a tinpot dictator halfway across the world. This will help unite Obama's base by squashing anti-war rhetoric.
- Rutgers Gay Suicide: Used to drum up fears of widespread homophobia in an election year where the first President to allow gays to openly serve in the military is up for re-election. This will further unite Obama's base.
- Trayvon Martin Shooting: Used to drum up fears of widespread racism (despite the facts of the case) in an election year where the country's first black President is up for re-election.
And no, I do not believe there is widespread coordination But I do think that each of these stories coming out reveals the pro-Establishment Left bias of the MSM..
I think it's your pre-conceived belief that the MSM is Left Bias that is making you believe these unrelated stories are somehow being promoted (apparently with some type of coordination....if not "widespread") because of your belife that they somehow help Obama
I'm honestly suprised to see this coming from you
I would easily expect this kind of paranoia from 333 but not from you
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I think it's your pre-conceived belief that the MSM is Left Bias that is making you believe these unrelated stories are somehow being promoted (apparently with some type of coordination....if not "widespread") because of your belife that they somehow help Obama
I'm honestly suprised to see this coming from you
I would easily expect this kind of paranoia from 333 but not from you
The msm isn't Lib?
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Yes, you are correct, the media lives for the kind of story where they can turn a mistaken shooting into a racially motivated hate crime despite the facts of the case.
the media does that kind of thing all the time and since there has yet to be an investigation you can assume they've made a mistake about anything
I'm honestly amazed that you believe the "media" is fomenting these stories as a way to help Obama
The more I think about that premise the more I'm amazed you actually believe it
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I think it's your pre-conceived belief that the MSM is Left Bias that is making you believe these unrelated stories are somehow being promoted (apparently with some type of coordination....if not "widespread") because of your belife that they somehow help Obama
I'm honestly suprised to see this coming from you
I would easily expect this kind of paranoia from 333 but not from you
According to Gallup, roughly 50% of this country finds the MSM to be too liberal while approximately 17% who find it to be too conservative.
I know, I know, Fox. ::) ::) ::) ::)
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The msm isn't Lib?
yes, I know you believe that and certainly some are just like some are Republican and some are independent
I think the MSM pursues any story that they think will get eyeballs to their media outlet and they certainly can't ignore a story like this thing in Florida
The story at Rutgers also has the kind of salacious content that the media loves plus you have an actual arrest, plea bargain for one person and a trial for another. Those are legitmate stories and also the kind the public likes to read about
The Kony thing was a viral video just like the 1000's of other viral videos we've seen. It didn't hurt that the fundie christian who made it had a public meltdown and was running around the street naked. Again, the media LOVES that kind of shit
The idea that that these are all surreptitiously "connected" and the MSM media made these "non-stories" into "stories" in an attempt to help Obama get re-elected is just laughable.
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Thats thee 240 MO.....nobody here was there. Nobody knows. We have what the media is saying...so witness and the cops.
the media is playing this shit up for ratings, no doubt. FOX is all over it too - so I can't say "it's all about helping obama".
Race is a HUGE divisive issue. It SELLS. That shirley sherrod bullshit was SO inconsequential. That beer summit was SO inconsequential. But people watch it. It means more ad/commercial/$, so they milk that lame shit.
OF COURSE the media is what's behind this story. FOX and MSN alike. Race doesn't belong here!
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The msm isn't Lib?
FOX plays up this race bullshit as much as MSNBC does, you know that. Hannity can't stop replaying that tape asking if the dude used a racial slur.
RATINGS $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Look, bottom line: Wanna-be cop ignored real police order to stay in his truck. Chased some kid to be a hero. Caused a conflict where he felt the need to shoot a kid. PERIOD.
If it was a white kid in a hoodie, would have ended the same. If it was a black guy in the truck, would have been the same. Asshole wanna-be chased a kid, led to fight and shooting. PERIOD
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FOX plays up this race bullshit as much as MSNBC does, you know that. Hannity can't stop replaying that tape asking if the dude used a racial slur.
RATINGS $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Look, bottom line: Wanna-be cop ignored real police order to stay in his truck. Chased some kid to be a hero. Caused a conflict where he felt the need to shoot a kid. PERIOD.
If it was a white kid in a hoodie, would have ended the same. If it was a black guy in the truck, would have been the same. Asshole wanna-be chased a kid, led to fight and shooting. PERIOD
isn't it obvious that The Hannity is part of the secret media conspiracy to help re-elect Obama?
you just gotta connect the dots
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the media does that kind of thing all the time and since there has yet to be an investigation you can assume they've made a mistake about anything
I'm honestly amazed that you believe the "media" is fomenting these stories as a way to help Obama
The more I think about that premise the more I'm amazed you actually believe it
Not fomenting. You don't seem to understand. Allow me to explain by way of analogy:
Take NPR as an example. Everyone knows that they have a strong left bias. But nobody there is actively pushing a left-wing bias. So what went wrong? Simple: Everyone at NPR is a leftist and they have leftist friends. So they all live in their own little leftist bubbles without exposure to alternative ways of viewing the world. Of course, NPR being the way it is, it only attracts leftists to work for it, because who would want to be a conservative (or libertarian) working for NPR? So the news stories put forth by NPR have all been filtered thoroughly through the collective perspectives of journalists with strong internal left-wing biases. It is not intentional, but it is there.
The same holds true for many other news organizations. MSNBC is an obvious example, though I'm not sure if their bias is unintentional or not. But most of these other prominent news organizations, like CNN, CBS, ABC, Newsweek, TIME, US News and World Report, the New York Times, etc. all have this kind of unintentional left-wing bias. I do believe that most of the journalists and editors in these organizations do not want to be biased; they want to hold true to their journalistic integrity. But that is impossible to do when everyone around you thinks a certain way and practically everyone you work with thinks in that same way.
This is all exacerbated by the fact that leftists generally do not understand how conservatives and libertarians view the world.
So to take this back to, say, the Trayvon Martin shooting: they hear about a black kid getting shot by a "white" (actually half-Hispanic) dude and what do they think? Racism and guns. So that's what they report, since they interact with no one in their close circle of friends and co-workers who views the world through a different lense. Throw in a little bit of yellow journalism for good measure (e.g. showing pics of Trayvon Martin as a middle schooler, not as a 6'3" 17 year old) to top it off and you have a clear-cut case of left-wing bias.
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BTW, the Kony 2012 debacle is a clear-cut case of yellow journalism. I don't even give that story the benefit of the doubt; anyone who performs an even cursory investigation of the facts finds that Kony 2012 is full of misrepresentations.
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John Stossel talks about media bias here:
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Not fomenting. You don't seem to understand. Allow me to explain by way of analogy:
Take NPR as an example. Everyone knows that they have a strong left bias. But nobody there is actively pushing a left-wing bias. So what went wrong? Simple: Everyone at NPR is a leftist and they have leftist friends. So they all live in their own little leftist bubbles without exposure to alternative ways of viewing the world. Of course, NPR being the way it is, it only attracts leftists to work for it, because who would want to be a conservative (or libertarian) working for NPR? So the news stories put forth by NPR have all been filtered thoroughly through the collective perspectives of journalists with strong internal left-wing biases. It is not intentional, but it is there.
The same holds true for many other news organizations. MSNBC is an obvious example, though I'm not sure if their bias is unintentional or not. But most of these other prominent news organizations, like CNN, CBS, ABC, Newsweek, TIME, US News and World Report, the New York Times, etc. all have this kind of unintentional left-wing bias. I do believe that most of the journalists and editors in these organizations do not want to be biased; they want to hold true to their journalistic integrity. But that is impossible to do when everyone around you thinks a certain way and practically everyone you work with thinks in that same way.
This is all exacerbated by the fact that leftists generally do not understand how conservatives and libertarians view the world.
So to take this back to, say, the Trayvon Martin shooting: they hear about a black kid getting shot by a "white" (actually half-Hispanic) dude and what do they think? Racism and guns. So that's what they report, since they interact with no one in their close circle of friends and co-workers who views the world through a different lense. Throw in a little bit of yellow journalism for good measure (e.g. showing pics of Trayvon Martin as a middle schooler, not as a 6'3" 17 year old) to top it off and you have a clear-cut case of left-wing bias.
I think you might have a shred of a case if these stories were only promoted by NPR or MSNBC but ignored by the rest of the media
the fact is that these stories grew organically the same way that all stories like these do and the media, by virtue of being "the media" always helps stories get bigger when they report on them.
In my opinion there are no dots to be connected and no media collusion (little or big) to promote these stories in an attempt to help Obama but I do find your belief that there are "dots" to be interesting. It tells me more about you than anything else
btw - I know the right likes to shit on NPR (not saying you're "the right" or doing that) but to the best of my knowledge the only show that uses airtime to remember the dead soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan is the News Hour on NPR. I wish the right would remember that once in awhile
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BTW, the Kony 2012 debacle is a clear-cut case of yellow journalism. I don't even give that story the benefit of the doubt; anyone who performs an even cursory investigation of the facts finds that Kony 2012 is full of misrepresentations.
Bingo that was more hyped of emotionalism to support Obama increasing intervention over there.
Leftists are typically those who fall for the Sally Struthers' type emotionalism.
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I think you might have a shred of a case if these stories were only promoted by NPR or MSNBC but ignored by the rest of the media
Stossel and and Bernie Goldberg were both members of the "rest of the media" and both suffered from MSM bias:
the fact is that these stories grew organically the same way that all stories like these do and the media, by virtue of being "the media" always helps stories get bigger when they report on them.
That's my point. These stories grow organically by virtue of the fact that practically everyone in the MSM has an internal leftist bias.
In my opinion there are no dots to be connected and no media collusion (little or big) to promote these stories in an attempt to help Obama
I'm not calling media collusion, but media bias. Learn the difference.
but I do find your belief that there are "dots" to be interesting. It tells me more about you than anything else
As I said - dots exposing media bias, not a giant conspiracy.
Your post is actually a perfect example of leftists being trapped in their little bubbles and simply not having a clue regarding how the other side thinks. I call out the MSM on bias, and you immediately think that I'm concocting some grand CT on the scale of "Loose Change" and other bullshit CTs. That is your innate prejudice; to you, anyone who does not agree with the normal left-liberal view of the world is simply irrational and will resort to absurdities in order to justify their beliefs.
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Look, bottom line: Wanna-be cop ignored real police order to stay in his truck. Chased some kid to be a hero. Caused a conflict where he felt the need to shoot a kid. PERIOD.
Well Heinrich, I'm glad you have all the facts and have convicted this guy based on the media reports.
Hopefully, your comeuppance will be equally just.
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Stossel and and Bernie Goldberg were both members of the "rest of the media" and both suffered from MSM bias:
That's my point. These stories grow organically by virtue of the fact that practically everyone in the MSM has an internal leftist bias.
I'm not calling media collusion, but media bias. Learn the difference.
stories grow organically as they are hit the MSM because they all jump in and try to get some juice of the story and get eyeballs to their site or show
It's all about viewership and money.....period
the organic growth of a story has nothing to do with left wing bias....it's just how the media works
it the idea that you think their are "dots" between these three totally unrelated and legitimate stories that I find interesting
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stories grow organically as they are hit the MSM because they all jump in and try to get some juice of the story and get eyeballs to their site or show
It's all about viewership and money.....period
the organic growth of a story has nothing to do with left wing bias....it's just how the media works
So John Stossel, Bernie Goldberg, and Juan Williams are all liars?
it the idea that you think their are "dots" between these three totally unrelated and legitimate stories that I find interesting
Yes, dots exposing media bias. But as usual, you seem to be getting ahead of yourself here and trying to foist some kind of massive media conspiracy theory on me because of your own bias against anyone who isn't a typical left-liberal.
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Well Heinrich, I'm glad you have all the facts and have convicted this guy based on the media reports.
Hopefully, your comeuppance will be equally just.
Lol, thats the 1st thing that went through my head as well.
240 has about a 1/4 of the facts, and has already built a scenario and convicted the guy.
Lol.
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So John Stossel, Bernie Goldberg, and Juan Williams are all liars?
Yes, dots exposing media bias. But as usual, you seem to be getting ahead of yourself here and trying to foist some kind of massive media conspiracy theory on me because of your own bias against anyone who isn't a typical left-liberal.
no, I'm sure they are expressing their honest belief about what they experienced as filtered through their own political bias
that doesn't make it true
It also doesn't prove that these three stories were promoted by MSM to help Obama (which is I think the premise of your thread)
these events happened and were reported on and, as always, every media outlet is trying to find ways every day to get people to watch their site or show
These three stories are exactly the kind of stuff that the American media consumer gobbles up on a daily basis and the only dots to connect are advertising dollars to the various media bank accounts
With the Rutgers case and the shootintg in Florida you had public vigils with thousands of people and it would be absurd not to expet the media to cover it
THe Kony thing was a viral video that eventually the media couldn't ignore and really that thing was a sorty for a few days or a week and that was it
I see no dots and no conspricy and not even any bias
clearly you see things differently
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Lol, thats the 1st thing that went through my head as well.
240 has about a 1/4 of the facts, and has already built a scenario and convicted the guy.
Lol.
240's specialty, like all leftists, is the ability to turn opinion into fact while at the same time ignoring the actual facts. His type have perfected the art form.
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240's specialty, like all leftists, is the ability to turn opinion into fact while at the same time ignoring the actual facts. His type have perfected the art form.
the right does this all the time
you, on the other hand, turn stuff you merely imagine into facts on an almost daily basis
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Well Heinrich, I'm glad you have all the facts and have convicted this guy based on the media reports.
hannity played the tape. The 911 operator told him NOT to chase. Then he did it anyway. At the very least, he disobeyed a police order. Charge him with impeding a police investigation and get to the bottom of what happened, ya know?
To me, there are 2 things that piss me off with this case. 1) He immediately claimed that "stand your ground" law, which opened the door for obama to shit on that law. Hw as actively chasing the dude. SEcond, the police TOLD HIM not to pursue, because they were close. He DISOBEYED.
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hannity played the tape. The 911 operator told him NOT to chase. Then he did it anyway. At the very least, he disobeyed a police order. Charge him with impeding a police investigation and get to the bottom of what happened, ya know?
To me, there are 2 things that piss me off with this case. 1) He immediately claimed that "stand your ground" law, which opened the door for obama to shit on that law. Hw as actively chasing the dude. SEcond, the police TOLD HIM not to pursue, because they were close. He DISOBEYED.
Read the transcript you douche. They didn't tell him not to follow, they said "we don't need you to do that".
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This is confusing as hell.
Ive seen most of the video and really I cant tell what to think.
The neighbor could be right, or he could be wrong, ive seen situations where an eyewitness got it backwards because everything was happening so fast and they wanted to make sure "justice was done", but they really couldnt remember what happened and their testimony wound up fucking an innocent person. People get shit switched in their memory, especially during high stress events. People always get the facts skewed in their memory. Especially when they only see half of what happened.
If the mexican dude made some sort of hostile action at the black kid, then he should go to jail.
BUT, if the mexican dude was just kind of tailing the black kid through his neighborhood trying to make sure he wasnt going to do anything bad, and the kid got pissed and attacked him, then IMHO self defense was justified.
From the recording I heard, it sounds like the mexican dude was just kind of trailing behind the dude. Which IMHO is no big deal, ive had people tail me in one of my friends neighborhoods when I 1st went there, they knew the usual visitors and had several break ins, so they just tried to keep eyes on people they didnt know. The kid would have no right to attack someone just because the other dude was keeping tabs on him in a neighborhood that he wasnt well known.
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hannity played the tape. The 911 operator told him NOT to chase. Then he did it anyway. At the very least, he disobeyed a police order. Charge him with impeding a police investigation and get to the bottom of what happened, ya know?
To me, there are 2 things that piss me off with this case. 1) He immediately claimed that "stand your ground" law, which opened the door for obama to shit on that law. Hw as actively chasing the dude. SEcond, the police TOLD HIM not to pursue, because they were close. He DISOBEYED.
A 911 dispatcher is not "the police."
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A 911 dispatcher is not "the police."
Racist post reported.
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A 911 dispatcher is not "the police."
Lol, no shit.
Not to mention, a 911 dispatcher told a youngster defending his home to NOT shoot at the people attacking him and his sister, and had he listened, he very well may have been dead today.
Pretty sure that we can agree that the dispatcher is a non-issue in this case. It comes down to the person on the phone to use critical thinking to make the choices necessary to defend himself, and those choices are whats in question, NOT "well the dispatcher said".
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Lol, no shit.
Not to mention, a 911 dispatcher told a youngster defending his home to NOT shoot at the people attacking him and his sister, and had he listened, he very well may have been dead today.
Pretty sure that we can agree that the dispatcher is a non-issue in this case. It comes down to the person on the phone to use critical thinking to make the choices necessary to defend himself, and those choices are whats in question, NOT "well the dispatcher said".
The kid posed no threat. He was walking.
this jackass - when he called 911 he was such the drama queen about 'he looks like he's on drugs' and 'something in his waistband'...
I just hate drama queens like that who embellish cause they want the cops there faster. You know that's what he was doing. Dude had no business getting out of his truck to confront someone, when he knew the cops would be there. He figured they'd come in and save the day, he could point out the perp and have something to brag about.
instead he loses a fistfight and resorts to his gun. Wonderful. Fucking jackass should have stayed i his truck and let the real police confront the kid.
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FOX plays up this race bullshit as much as MSNBC does, you know that. Hannity can't stop replaying that tape asking if the dude used a racial slur.
RATINGS $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Look, bottom line: Wanna-be cop ignored real police order to stay in his truck. Chased some kid to be a hero. Caused a conflict where he felt the need to shoot a kid. PERIOD.
If it was a white kid in a hoodie, would have ended the same. If it was a black guy in the truck, would have been the same. Asshole wanna-be chased a kid, led to fight and shooting. PERIOD
I don't know much about the case, but it seems to me that he was following a kid that looked like he was causing problems in the shooters neighborhood? The kid attacked him and got shot. If I'm wrong fine, but that seems like what's happened.
If someone appeared suspicious in my neighborhood I would follow them, and call the police. I've done it before. Dispatcher never said don't follow, they appreciated it.
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I don't know much about the case, but it seems to me that he was following a kid that looked like he was causing problems in the shooters neighborhood? The kid attacked him and got shot. If I'm wrong fine, but that seems like what's happened.
If someone appeared suspicious in my neighborhood I would follow them, and call the police. I've done it before. Dispatcher never said don't follow, they appreciated it.
WHy did he look like he was causing problems? Was he carrying a stolen TV? Even if he was (and he wasn't), jumping out of your truck and running at someone in the dark is certainly a sign of aggression. If someone came at me like that in the night, I'd probably shoot them. Just being honest. So I can't blame the kid for swinging.
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WHy did he look like he was causing problems? Was he carrying a stolen TV? Even if he was (and he wasn't), jumping out of your truck and running at someone in the dark is certainly a sign of aggression. If someone came at me like that in the night, I'd probably shoot them. Just being honest. So I can't blame the kid for swinging.
werent you a neighborhood watch person too?
telling us how you used to hassle ppl in your neighborhood to get them to leave b/c the cops took to long to get there or wouldnt do anything?
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Running at him?
Where do you come up with this shut? Everything I've seen said he was failing the kid calling.in a suspicious person to the cops, because they've had a problem with robberies.
Nobody can figure out what happened but somehow you know this guy ran down and started a.fistfightn this kid for no reason? Even when the neighbor said that the black kid attacked him, not the other way around?
Lol. Don't let facts.get.in you way or anything, you'd make.a.great msnbc host.
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werent you a neighborhood watch person too?
telling us how you used to hassle ppl in your neighborhood to get them to leave b/c the cops took to long to get there or wouldnt do anything?
I do recall him saying he would approach, with his gun in hand, a suspicious person parked in his neighborhood.
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werent you a neighborhood watch person too?
telling us how you used to hassle ppl in your neighborhood to get them to leave b/c the cops took to long to get there or wouldnt do anything?
I certainly was. I worked with large groups of locals. We would collect info about the person who was there and acting shady. But "Chasing them in the dark" was something we didn't do.
I am very quick to chase away people who are in MY block. If this kid was on my block, I'd call 5-6 neighbors, we'd all walk our dogs at once while carrying our weapons (concealed and holstered of course) and flashlights, and we may all call the cops at the same time to report the kid. But none of us would be stupid enough to "RUN" and "CONFRONT" an unknown variable.
big diff there, that mr zimm didn't seem to know.
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Running at him?
Where do you come up with this shut?
on the tape you hear him panting as he's running or walking realllly fast trying to catch up with the kid and see which way he was heading.
He claimed he hopped out of his truck "because he didn't know what corner he was at" which is a load of shit. In a small apt complex where this dude patrols regularly, there's a damn good chance he knew what that corner was ;) And if will lie about that, and exaggerate about 'the kid looks to be on drugs' and 'something in his waistband' - lol - sounds like he's a drama queen bitch to me.
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on the tape you hear him panting as he's running or walking realllly fast trying to catch up with the kid and see which way he was heading.
He claimed he hopped out of his truck "because he didn't know what corner he was at" which is a load of shit. In a small apt complex where this dude patrols regularly, there's a damn good chance he knew what that corner was ;) And if will lie about that, and exaggerate about 'the kid looks to be on drugs' and 'something in his waistband' - lol - sounds like he's a drama queen bitch to me.
Jesus Christ dude. ::)
You dont know what happened and neither do any of us.
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I certainly was. I worked with large groups of locals. We would collect info about the person who was there and acting shady. But "Chasing them in the dark" was something we didn't do.
I am very quick to chase away people who are in MY block. If this kid was on my block, I'd call 5-6 neighbors, we'd all walk our dogs at once while carrying our weapons (concealed and holstered of course) and flashlights, and we may all call the cops at the same time to report the kid. But none of us would be stupid enough to "RUN" and "CONFRONT" an unknown variable.
big diff there, that mr zimm didn't seem to know.
I remember you telling us how you would confront them and ask them what they were doing? who they were there to see etc?
isnt that the same thing this guy did?
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I remember you telling us how you would confront them and ask them what they were doing? who they were there to see etc?
isnt that the same thing this guy did?
if this kid was standing at my mailbox, you bet your ass i'd confront him.
but driving around other people's blocks? and starting shit when you aren't on your own castle doctrine? no way.
If youre on my property, i'm going to be armed and ask you wnat you want. If kid swings on my in my own yard, I'mma smoke him, of course.
but if I walk up to kid someone where I DONT LIVE, it's a whole diff story. I can and might call the police if his ass looks shady. But the MINUTE I violate his constitutional rights, as a citizen, i'm perfectly fair game for an ass whooping or to get smoked.
That's the prob here. The kid was in a public area, just like the cop was. They had EQUAL RIGHT to be on that piece of dirt.
So yes toney, if dirtbag is on my street, i call police. One block over, it's their problem or maybe i do call. if he's on my property, its rambo time.
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if this kid was standing at my mailbox, you bet your ass i'd confront him.
but driving around other people's blocks? and starting shit when you aren't on your own castle doctrine? no way.
If youre on my property, i'm going to be armed and ask you wnat you want. If kid swings on my in my own yard, I'mma smoke him, of course.
but if I walk up to kid someone where I DONT LIVE, it's a whole diff story. I can and might call the police if his ass looks shady. But the MINUTE I violate his constitutional rights, as a citizen, i'm perfectly fair game for an ass whooping or to get smoked.
That's the prob here. The kid was in a public area, just like the cop was. They had EQUAL RIGHT to be on that piece of dirt.
So yes toney, if dirtbag is on my street, i call police. One block over, it's their problem or maybe i do call. if he's on my property, its rambo time.
how did he violate his constitutional rights?
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I certainly was. I worked with large groups of locals. We would collect info about the person who was there and acting shady. But "Chasing them in the dark" was something we didn't do.
I am very quick to chase away people who are in MY block. If this kid was on my block, I'd call 5-6 neighbors, we'd all walk our dogs at once while carrying our weapons (concealed and holstered of course) and flashlights, and we may all call the cops at the same time to report the kid. But none of us would be stupid enough to "RUN" and "CONFRONT" an unknown variable.
big diff there, that mr zimm didn't seem to know.
::) At least try somewhat to keep your lies straight...tool.
sorry to vent. but seriously.
i lived in a shitty trailer park for over a year. when we moved in, there were junkies, homeless, vagrants who lived in efficiecies by the week, sex offenders, and of course, illegals.
I didn't get on message boards and vent. I sat down with the decent old folks in the park and we determined who the problems were. We applied pressure on mgmt not to renew their leases. When there were suspicious cars, 6 or 8 of us would come out of our trailers at the same time and stand around 5 feet from their car (visibly armed) write down their info, give them shitty looks, etc. If they were up to no good, they left. When bums would walk thru at night, we'd approach them as miilitantly as possible and ask them if they needed directions. The look on our faces and the shotgun rack they heard but never saw meant they didn't come back.
I guess I just don't understand the mindset of being pissed about illegals and not doing anything about it. Scumbags (legal or otherwise) weren't welcome in our trailer park. We made them uncomfortable, scared, whatever, and they took their fun elsewhere.
I'm not saying be violent or break the law. I'm saying you bench in your screen room, you check your mail with your glock clearly visible, you approach strangers and ask them what their business is in this location. They give you guff, you call 911 and report public nuisance, pot smell, suspicious vehicle, whatever. You chase them out.
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I remember you telling us how you would confront them and ask them what they were doing? who they were there to see etc?
isnt that the same thing this guy did?
Hell, yes. He's been talking this neighborhood watch tough guy shit at least as long as I've been around and probably well before that.
Now suddenly it's "different".
Wait, where have we heard that one before...lol.
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Hell, yes. He's been talking this neighborhood watch tough guy shit at least as long as I've been around and probably well before that.
Now suddenly it's "different".
Wait, where have we heard that one before...lol.
I kind of think he's judging this guy based on his experiences as neighborhood watch honestly.. Thats where I think his instant judgement came from.
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Yes, when they were on our street, we'd approach them IN A GROUP. Not RUNNING. Not CHASING.
I'm talking calm and rational with the law ON OUR SIDE.
THis jackass was playing ninja, running in the dark alone to confront an unknown suspect. When me and the older vets from the trailer park did it, we walked, well lit
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Hell, yes. He's been talking this neighborhood watch tough guy shit at least as long as I've been around and probably well before that.
Now suddenly it's "different".
Wait, where have we heard that one before...lol.
it depends where the person is, and how you approach him. the minute the cops are called, this jackass has to stop his little 'pursuit'. Cuz the cops are just as likely to see his silly ass running thru the dark. I know, he'd hold up her permit and say "I'm one of the good guys!" as he had probably practiced. Hell, he probably had some of those silly ass "permit badges" haha.
I guess if you listen to the radio defending this douchebag long enough, you'll take that point of view. IMO, the kid belonged in jail for dealing drugs, and this man belongs in jail for shooting someone after he initiated the confrontation. We knew he did this. WE heard him panting on the phone chasing after him.
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Yes, when they were on our street, we'd approach them IN A GROUP. Not RUNNING. Not CHASING.
I'm talking calm and rational with the law ON OUR SIDE.
THis jackass was playing ninja, running in the dark alone to confront an unknown suspect. When me and the older vets from the trailer park did it, we walked, well lit
Oh ok, so if your doing it "militantly" then it's alright.
But, if you're "running" and "chasing" (something you don't even know happened, btw), then it's wrong.
Yep, no double standard there. ::)
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Oh ok, so if your doing it "militantly" then it's alright.
But, if you're "running" and "chasing" (something you don't even know happened, btw), then it's wrong.
Yep, no double standard there. ::)
yes. Militantly is different from frantic running. I would never violate that 10 foot space. I would do it in a group. I would keep it well lit.
I did this in my trailer park with the other folks who lived there. We'd all come out of our houses at the same time - and hell yes, it scared people off to know people were watching them.
At no point would i ever run into the darkness on someone else's block at an unknown. Bottom line.
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Oh ok, so if your doing it "militantly" then it's alright.
But, if you're "running" and "chasing" (something you don't even know happened, btw), then it's wrong.
Yep, no double standard there. ::)
LOL, approaching "militantly" and "chasing" are somehow different.
The funny this in he has no idea HOW the guy approached the kid.
240 has this whole thing figured out without a doubt, he's constructed the entire scenario to justify his judgement, its a lost cause.
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yes. Militantly is different from frantic running. I would never violate that 10 foot space. I would do it in a group. I would keep it well lit.
I did this in my trailer park with the other folks who lived there. We'd all come out of our houses at the same time - and hell yes, it scared people off to know people were watching them.
At no point would i ever run into the darkness on someone else's block at an unknown. Bottom line.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Yes, you know this, but the people there cant even figure out WTF happened.
Amazing dude, you should sell your services to the police, theyd love to have a telepath that can determine how a situation went down just from listening to an audio recording!
And fucking LAWL @ the 10 ft rule. What if he just jogged to within distance to see the kid and the kid flipped out?
You have NO fucking idea but yet you act like its an open and shut case.
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WHy did he look like he was causing problems? Was he carrying a stolen TV? Even if he was (and he wasn't), jumping out of your truck and running at someone in the dark is certainly a sign of aggression. If someone came at me like that in the night, I'd probably shoot them. Just being honest. So I can't blame the kid for swinging.
Good point.....
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yes. Militantly is different from frantic running. I would never violate that 10 foot space. I would do it in a group. I would keep it well lit.
I did this in my trailer park with the other folks who lived there. We'd all come out of our houses at the same time - and hell yes, it scared people off to know people were watching them.
At no point would i ever run into the darkness on someone else's block at an unknown. Bottom line.
Oh, now he wasn't just "running", he was frantically running.
Your knowledge of what went down is amazing, considering you weren't even there!
Any more embellishments?
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listen to the tape. dude is out of breath - running into a fight winded. total stupid move. fatass on the phone - hannity played it. he's wheezing as he runs.
yes, militantly is fast walking, controlled. in groups. to observe, not to attack.
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Yes, when they were on our street, we'd approach them IN A GROUP. Not RUNNING. Not CHASING.
I'm talking calm and rational with the law ON OUR SIDE.
THis jackass was playing ninja, running in the dark alone to confront an unknown suspect. When me and the older vets from the trailer park did it, we walked, well lit
well lit, with a hidden shot gun that got cocked?
LMFAO I guess I know how trayvon felt b/c if your retarded ass came walking up to me like that Id certainly make sure that would be the last time you fucking jack ass.
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Oh, now he wasn't just "running", he was frantically running.
Your knowledge of what went down is amazing, considering you weren't even there!
Any more embellishments?
He knows that he frantically ran right up to his 10ft bubble radius as well.
For the record 240, I have not heard ANYTHING defending this kid. And its pretty obvious to me that there is a helluva lot more unknown here than what is being pushed by MSNBC.
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LOL, approaching "militantly" and "chasing" are somehow different.
The funny this in he has no idea HOW the guy approached the kid.
240 has this whole thing figured out without a doubt, he's constructed the entire scenario to justify his judgement, its a lost cause.
Give him till next week. By then the vigilante will have actually paid the kid earlier in the day to walk through at a specific time so that he could shoot him and be the hero. Then he took the money back out of the innocent kids pocket.
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listen to the tape. dude is out of breath - running into a fight winded. total stupid move. fatass on the phone - hannity played it. he's wheezing as he runs.
yes, militantly is fast walking, controlled. in groups. to observe, not to attack.
Good lord. So a man out of breath somehow means he ran up and engaged the kid. Just ran up and punched, cause thats exactly what happens every time someone is out of breath.
Not like they could be jogging to catch up to someone who may be running because he doesnt want to be followed. Couldnt be that he was running to try and keep the kid in sight.
Out of breath = attacking. Good to know.
Youre ENTIRE argument is based on someone being out of breath. That is fucking pathetic and you would get laughed out of the courtroom.
"But your honor, its clear he attacked him first because he was out of breath on the recording. That means he ran up and attacked the kid. I mean, cmon, he's out of breath." ::)
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listen to the tape. dude is out of breath - running into a fight winded. total stupid move. fatass on the phone - hannity played it. he's wheezing as he runs.
yes, militantly is fast walking, controlled. in groups. to observe, not to attack.
Yeah, "militant" does mean or suggest "attack". Who would possibly associate the word militant with attack? ::)
Brother, give the stupid act a rest already.
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Oh, now he wasn't just "running", he was frantically running.
Your knowledge of what went down is amazing, considering you weren't even there!
Any more embellishments?
you want embellishments, listen to zimmer on the tape.
WOW - Listen to this clip. What does he mumble as he's chasing him? I can't make it out, but I know what ppl are saying he said. Still, race doesn't belong in this.
http://axiomamnesia.com/Audio/Zimmerman911Calls/George-Zimmerman-Treyvon-Martin-Coons-911-Call.mp3
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Good lord. So a man out of breath somehow means he ran up and engaged the kid. Just ran up and punched, cause thats exactly what happens every time someone is out of breath.
Not like they could be jogging to catch up to someone who may be running because he doesnt want to be followed. Couldnt be that he was running to try and keep the kid in sight.
Out of breath = attacking. Good to know.
Youre ENTIRE argument is based on someone being out of breath. That is fucking pathetic and you would get laughed out of the courtroom.
"But your honor, its clear he attacked him first because he was out of breath on the recording. That means he ran up and attacked the kid. I mean, cmon, he's out of breath." ::)
I'm pretty sure the kid attacked zimmer.
i'm pretty sure it was zimmer screaming for help.
dumb ass chased down a person who had done nothing wrong and got an ass whooping for it.
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you want embellishments, listen to zimmer on the tape.
WOW - Listen to this clip. What does he mumble as he's chasing him?
http://axiomamnesia.com/Audio/Zimmerman911Calls/George-Zimmerman-Treyvon-Martin-Coons-911-Call.mp3
WOW, thats wind noise from movement and a guy trying to talk quietly, voice shaking slightly. EPIC FUCKING FAIL 240. No out of breath, no running. You fucking suck.
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you want embellishments, listen to zimmer on the tape.
WOW - Listen to this clip. What does he mumble as he's chasing him? I can't make it out, but I know what ppl are saying he said. Still, race doesn't belong in this.
http://axiomamnesia.com/Audio/Zimmerman911Calls/George-Zimmerman-Treyvon-Martin-Coons-911-Call.mp3
Ok, sorry but that doesn't sound like heavy breathing to me. It sounds like the phone was rubbing up against something - his shirt maybe, IDK.
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I'm referring to the word he uses after "fuccking" on this tape. I can't make it out. But a lot of ppl are saying it's a racist slur. it's 5 seconds in.
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WOW, thats wind noise from movement and a guy trying to talk quietly, voice shaking slightly. EPIC FUCKING FAIL 240. No out of breath, no running. You fucking suck.
Ah wind-noise.
Agreed...didn't hear any heavy breathing.
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I'm referring to the word he uses after "fuccking" on this tape. I can't make it out. But a lot of ppl are saying it's a racist slur. it's 5 seconds in.
Sounds like fucking punk or something like that to me. But I sure won't swear on it.
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I didn't hear running either.
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Ah wind-noise.
Agreed...didn't hear any heavy breathing.
Yeah, running is a very distinct sound over radio and phone, youll here feet hitting the pavement, clothes rattling, heavy breathing. Its not something you mistake.
All that tape proves is that there was wind noise from either him walking or wind blowing (probably both), that he WASN'T running, and that he was talking softly.
Epic backfire.
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240, I mean this from the bottom of my heart-- Get a life and go fuck yourself.
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Trayvon Martin is from Miami, Fl. Had a black gang-banger offed him in Miami Gardens or Overtown, it wouldn't go past the Miami Herald and maybe a 15 second mention on the 6:00 news. News like that very thing is a rather common thing down here, but does not make much in the way of news. Had Trayvon been white and died under similar circumstances, that bit of news would not have made the news at all.
Black on black crime is not news. Black on white crime is not news. White(even a white hispanic) on black crime IS news. This is not an irregularity in the current political cycle.....this goes on at all times.
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:D
Libertals doing exactly what they always do. How absurd is this? Wellstone memorial all over again.
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Kony 2012 = load of bullshit meant to protect Obama's aggressive foreign war in support of the Ugandan dictatorship which committed genocide against Kony's people... don't forget that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Rutgers Gay Suicide = gay dude takes things too seriously and offs himself, his roommate gets possibly ten years in prison for a "hate crime" (more bullshit). Of course this is used to highlight "homophobia" in the US in an election year where the first President to allow gays to openly serve in the military is up for re-election.
Trayvon Martin Shooting = 17 year old black male who was 6'3 gets shot to death by a fat and average height mixed race dude claiming self-defense. And BTW, the 17 year old was dealing drugs via facebook. Of course the left-wing media fucks this one up by posting pics of the black dude when he was 12 years old, not 17, in order to drum up sympathy. And now the shooter is being portrayed as a white racist in an election year where the first ever black President is up for re-election.
Who else is connecting the dots?
Race and homo stuff is how dems get elected. HUrt whitey dont listen to reason ro logic just hurt whitey. amazing succssful strategy and media drown out. Occupy started by obamadroids to drown out tea party