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Title: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on June 30, 2012, 06:36:04 AM

Remember your comment about Rasmussen being the only honest poll....well they have Obama leading by 1 and he's pulling away in battleground states from Romney

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on June 30, 2012, 08:16:27 AM
33, please 'refudiate' this. 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 30, 2012, 09:09:23 AM
33, please 'refudiate' this. 

Big deal 1 point.   
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on June 30, 2012, 09:11:04 AM
Big deal 1 point.   

great point.  Cleary Advantage: Romney.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: dario73 on June 30, 2012, 09:19:53 PM
Data for the tracking poll is based upon nightly interviews and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. As a result, just two-thirds of the interviews for today’s update were conducted following the Supreme Court ruling on the president’s health care law. Tomorrow will be the first update based entirely upon interviews conducted since that ruling.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on June 30, 2012, 10:25:16 PM
swing vote/middle of road peopel are stupid sheep and want to be on the winning side.

they vote for perz based upon who has better hair or who played sax on arsenio or who they'd rather have a beer with.

if you have any opinion on obamacare, you are ALREADY voting against him.

I don't see him losing points by winning the ruling.  Nobody who watched him shove the legislation thru supporting him polls last week, then suddenly decided not to because "it's still there".   So I guess we'll see, but a week from now, I highly doubt romney leads in all these polls lol..
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 01, 2012, 05:20:04 AM
Big deal 1 point.   


Well, its 2 points and its rising in Ras along with every other poll.  Rasmussen even has his approval rate at 50%
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on July 01, 2012, 05:36:33 AM

Well, its 2 points and its rising in Ras along with every other poll.  Rasmussen even has his approval rate at 50%

this is unacceptable.  We need a new polling organization which reflects how getbiggers feel, where Romney is willing by 75%.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Kazan on July 01, 2012, 07:48:10 AM
I still fail to understand why some seem to put to much importance on polls. They sample about .0000000003% of the population, yet that is irrefutable evidence that Obama will win re-elections ::)
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 01, 2012, 08:16:19 AM
Big deal 1 point.   

funny...when Romney is leading by just 1 point, you claim that the margin is as wide as the Grand Canyon
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Shockwave on July 01, 2012, 08:24:54 AM
I still fail to understand why some seem to put to much importance on polls. They sample about .0000000003% of the population, yet that is irrefutable evidence that Obama will win re-elections ::)
This.
Polls are fucking pointless IMHO.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 01, 2012, 08:33:54 AM
This.
Polls are fucking pointless IMHO.
I wouldn't say they are pointless but your skepticism is warranted
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on July 01, 2012, 09:40:20 AM
rass and 538 were SPOT ON in their 2008 presidential predictions.  I couldn't call them meaningless at all.  they were brilliant oracles.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on July 01, 2012, 10:08:05 AM
Remember your comment about Rasmussen being the only honest poll....well they have Obama leading by 1 and he's pulling away in battleground states from Romney

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

His lead is within the margin of error, Vince. That means, effectively, it's a tie.

And, as had been explained several times before not, you have the undecided voters, nearly all of which tend to go AGAINST the incumbent.

If Obama is up 46-44 in Rasmussen, what happens with that 10% of undecideds? If he's up 47-44 against Romney in Gallup, what happens to the 9% of undecideds?

Let's not forget also that Obama got a huge bump in the polls, last year, after Bin Laden got killed. Three months later (as more economic bad news hit), he was in the 30s.

Edit - Rasmussen has them tied at 45.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on July 01, 2012, 10:21:55 AM
Three months later (as more economic bad news hit), he was in the 30s.


he was at 39% for 5 minutes before bouncing back up over 50?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 01, 2012, 10:47:35 AM
Remember the polls after bin laden for a week?   Same for this once next weeks jobs numbers come out
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 01, 2012, 10:48:49 AM
His lead is within the margin of error, Vince. That means, effectively, it's a tie.

And, as had been explained several times before not, you have the undecided voters, nearly all of which tend to go AGAINST the incumbent.

If Obama is up 46-44 in Rasmussen, what happens with that 10% of undecideds? If he's up 47-44 against Romney in Gallup, what happens to the 9% of undecideds?

Let's not forget also that Obama got a huge bump in the polls, last year, after Bin Laden got killed. Three months later (as more economic bad news hit), he was in the 30s.

This is hardly unprecedented....The first George Bush was at over 70% after the Gulf War....yet he took a similar plummet as well when the economy went sour........

nice try though
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on July 01, 2012, 10:49:45 AM

he was at 39% for 5 minutes before bouncing back up over 50?

He didn't bounce back for several months. He only has four months left. Obama couldn't sell ObamaCare over three years.

Besides, didn't you say that Romney needed ObamaCare to stand, or he'd have nothing against which to run to beat Obama?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on July 01, 2012, 10:51:27 AM
This is hardly unprecedented....The first George Bush was at over 70% after the Gulf War....yet he took a similar plummet as well when the economy went sour........

nice try though

Thank you for making my point. The tanking economy DROPPED Obama's numbers after Bin Laden got killed. And further economic woes will flatten this bump (far less than the one he got last year), based on ObamaCare.

Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 01, 2012, 11:02:31 AM
Thank you for making my point. The tanking economy DROPPED Obama's numbers after Bin Laden got killed. And further economic woes will flatten this bump (far less than the one he got last year), based on ObamaCare.



I can see your point...but it remains questionable whether Obamacare will make his numbers go down further....the Conservative Supreme Court gave Obama much-needed political cover on this issue....Obama will literally crush Romney on this point once the debates get started and Obama looks right at Romney and says "my healthcare plan is basically an exact copy of the one you implemented in Massachusetts"...Romney will shit himself and Obama will win on this point...

The economy is another story...Romney may have him on that
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on July 01, 2012, 11:10:24 AM
I can see your point...but it remains questionable whether Obamacare will make his numbers go down further....the Conservative Supreme Court gave Obama much-needed political cover on this issue....Obama will literally crush Romney on this point once the debates get started and Obama looks right at Romney and says "my healthcare plan is basically an exact copy of the one you implemented in Massachusetts"...Romney will shit himself and Obama will win on this point...

The economy is another story...Romney may have him on that

Obama doesn't have political cover. He campaigned on NOT RAISING taxes on the middle class. That was BS, based on ObamaCare, which we were saying years ago. What the Supreme Court just did was say (in a perverse way) that we were right.

As for the debates, don't bet on Obama destroying anybody. Santorum and Gingrich tried that same approach on Romney in the GOP debates. It didn't work. Plus, Romney now has a counter, clobbering Obama with his own campaign promise not to raise taxes on the middle class (at least 12 taxes in ObamaCare hike those up on people who make under $250,000).

Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 01, 2012, 11:24:17 AM
Obama doesn't have political cover. He campaigned on NOT RAISING taxes on the middle class. That was BS, based on ObamaCare, which we were saying years ago. What the Supreme Court just did was say (in a perverse way) that we were right.

As for the debates, don't bet on Obama destroying anybody. Santorum and Gingrich tried that same approach on Romney in the GOP debates. It didn't work. Plus, Romney now has a counter, clobbering Obama with his own campaign promise not to raise taxes on the middle class (at least 12 taxes in ObamaCare hike those up on people who make under $250,000).



if it is a tax its a tax that is earmarked to actually go to a certain program that will benefit all...not into the general coffers where who knows where it will go..the american people,will see that
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 01, 2012, 11:27:16 AM
if it is a tax its a tax that is earmarked to actually go to a certain program that will benefit all...not into the general coffers where who knows where it will go..the american people,will see that

So how is a mandate a tax now ? 

What if Romney and the congress pass a law saying every american has to fly a confederate battle flag in their front yard or face a tax.   Are you ok w that slave? 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on July 01, 2012, 11:33:28 AM
if it is a tax its a tax that is earmarked to actually go to a certain program that will benefit all...not into the general coffers where who knows where it will go..the american people,will see that

They haven't seen that in THREE YEARS, Andre. The beating the Dems took in 2010 is proof of that.

Romney said it best. ObamaCare was bad law before Thursday; it's bad law NOW. Constitutional or not, it SUCKS!!!

You honestly think Obama and the Dems can do in four months, what they couldn't do in over three years, especially with the added burden of explaining that they've done what they swore they wouldn't do.

Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on July 01, 2012, 11:34:42 AM
So how is a mandate a tax now ? 

What if Romney and the congress pass a law saying every american has to fly a confederate battle flag in their front yard or face a tax.   Are you ok w that slave? 

That's what some folks don't get. NOTHING has changed about this law, except that it's been officially deemed what many said it was all along: A GIANT TAX.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Grape Ape on July 01, 2012, 11:58:01 AM
Obama will literally crush Romney on this point once the debates get started and Obama looks right at Romney and says "my healthcare plan is basically an exact copy of the one you implemented in Massachusetts"...Romney will shit himself and Obama will win on this point...

Wrong, that would guarantee the incontinence vote for Romney.

But seriously, you don't think they'll be incredibly prepared for this angle?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 01, 2012, 01:26:10 PM
So how is a mandate a tax now ? 

What if Romney and the congress pass a law saying every american has to fly a confederate battle flag in their front yard or face a tax.   Are you ok w that slave? 

c'mon..flying a flag has nothing to do with interstate commerce
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 01, 2012, 01:29:05 PM
They haven't seen that in THREE YEARS, Andre. The beating the Dems took in 2010 is proof of that.

Romney said it best. ObamaCare was bad law before Thursday; it's bad law NOW. Constitutional or not, it SUCKS!!!

You honestly think Obama and the Dems can do in four months, what they couldn't do in over three years, especially with the added burden of explaining that they've done what they swore they wouldn't do.



the beating the Dems took in the mid-term elections was due to a lot of issues converging at one time......Obama's birth certificate issue.....the healthcare debate.....the fact that the Repubs would not do anything to help the economy or the American people in any way whatsoever.....so nothing could get done and it was blamed on Obama...the economy......etc..also the tea party was well organized and galvanized
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 01, 2012, 01:31:13 PM
c'mon..flying a flag has nothing to do with interstate commerce

LOL.   But deciding not to purchase something is?  

You thugs supporting what roberts did have no idea the slavery you are endorsing.

Let me put it another way easier for you to understand , S L A V E , let's say Romney and the Congress force you to buy a gym membership and show proof you are exercising 5 times a week or face a "fat tax", are you ok with that - YES OR NO?    
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 01, 2012, 01:33:58 PM
the beating the Dems took in the mid-term elections was due to a lot of issues converging at one time......Obama's birth certificate issue.....the healthcare debate.....the fact that the Repubs would not do anything to help the economy or the American people in any way whatsoever.....so nothing could get done and it was blamed on Obama...the economy......etc..also the tea party was well organized and galvanized


TEA Party is more organized than ever after this treason and slavery you pieces of garbage rammed through.     
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 01, 2012, 01:38:20 PM
Wrong, that would guarantee the incontinence vote for Romney.

But seriously, you don't think they'll be incredibly prepared for this angle?

they can prepare all they want..there is no getting around it..it is what it is...Romney's healthcare bill preceded Obama's..unless Romney has a time machine you can't get around that....as for the incontinence vote (nice moniker), they are not going to vote against a bill that will potentially make sure they are taken care of...running on a platform of taking healthcare AWAY is not good business if you want the old folks vote
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 01, 2012, 01:40:29 PM
they can prepare all they want..there is no getting around it..it is what it is...Romney's healthcare bill preceded Obama's..unless Romney has a time machine you can't get around that....as for the incontinence vote (nice moniker), they are not going to vote against a bill that will potentially make sure they are taken care of...running on a platform of taking healthcare AWAY is not good business if you want the old folks vote

The mandate is not the only thing horrible about ObamaCare you dope!   

Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 01, 2012, 01:41:34 PM
LOL.   But deciding not to purchase something is?  

You thugs supporting what roberts did have no idea the slavery you are endorsing.

Let me put it another way easier for you to understand , S L A V E , let's say Romney and the Congress force you to buy a gym membership and show proof you are exercising 5 times a week or face a "fat tax", are you ok with that - YES OR NO?    

dude for far too long, young people and others in this society have been living off our backs due to their not having insurance...when they get sick and  go to the emergency room, who do you think pays for that???..and when they have to spend days or weeks in the hospital, where does that money come from to pay for it????.....

you are contradicting yourself because you are the one always railing about people getting shit for free off our backs..this bill will end that...youngsters and everyone else will now have to pay for insurance like the rest of us...you can't be that dumb not to see that?????????????????????????????????????????????????
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 01, 2012, 01:42:10 PM
The mandate is not the only thing horrible about ObamaCare you dope!   



what else then?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 01, 2012, 01:44:53 PM
dude for far too long, young people and others in this society have been living off our backs due to their not having insurance...when they get sick and  go to the emergency room, who do you think pays for that???..and when they have to spend days or weeks in the hospital, where does that money come from to pay for it????.....

you are contradicting yourself because you are the one always railing about people getting shit for free off our backs..this bill will end that...youngsters and everyone else will now have to pay for insurance like the rest of us...you can't be that dumb not to see that?????????????????????????????????????????????????


That is hysterical, truly hysterical since illegals, who ghettobama refuses to boot out, are the biggest absuers of tghe ER, yet are thery going to buy insurance?   NO!!!! 

And if ThugCare were limited solely to the ER, fine, you can make that argument, but how many people run to the ER for free condoms and BC you jackass?   
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 01, 2012, 01:49:45 PM

That is hysterical, truly hysterical since illegals, who ghettobama refuses to boot out, are the biggest absuers of tghe ER, yet are thery going to buy insurance?   NO!!!! 

And if ThugCare were limited solely to the ER, fine, you can make that argument, but how many people run to the ER for free condoms and BC you jackass?   

you goddamn idiot.....in terms of illegal aliens OBAMA HAS DEPORTED MORE THAN ANY OTHER PRESIDENT......DEPORTATI ONS SKYROCKETED UNDER OBAMA......and you know this you moron.....your arguments are getting more and more incoherent.....and while illegal aliens do often make use of the ER, Americans far and away use the ER more than they do...if anything they avoid doctors because they don't like too many questions asked and mostly use the ER for their children, many of whom are American born
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 01, 2012, 01:50:55 PM
you goddamn idiot.....in terms of illegal aliens OBAMA HAS DEPORTED MORE THAN ANY OTHER PRESIDENT......DEPORTATI ONS SKYROCKETED UNDER OBAMA......and you know this you moron.....your arguments are getting more and more incoherent.....and while illegal aliens do often make use of the ER, Americans far and away use the ER more than they do...if anything they avoid doctors because they don't like too many questions asked and mostly use the ER for their children, many of whom are American born


So now Obama is going to force people to get checkups and go to the doctor? 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 01, 2012, 01:53:19 PM

So now Obama is going to force people to get checkups and go to the doctor? 

I didn't hear about that being in the bill..but it is sound practice.....people should go to the doctor at least once every year or every two years just for a check-up and physical...this way, lots of preventable diseases can be caught and treated before they get out of control and cost even more
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 01, 2012, 01:59:48 PM
I didn't hear about that being in the bill..but it is sound practice.....people should go to the doctor at least once every year or every two years just for a check-up and physical...this way, lots of preventable diseases can be caught and treated before they get out of control and cost even more

What else do you want to force people to do?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Fury on July 01, 2012, 02:15:59 PM
you goddamn idiot.....in terms of illegal aliens OBAMA HAS DEPORTED MORE THAN ANY OTHER PRESIDENT......DEPORTATI ONS SKYROCKETED UNDER OBAMA......and you know this you moron.....your arguments are getting more and more incoherent.....and while illegal aliens do often make use of the ER, Americans far and away use the ER more than they do...if anything they avoid doctors because they don't like too many questions asked and mostly use the ER for their children, many of whom are American born

Actually, idiot, that was proven to be complete bullshit and just a massaging of numbers. They consider any person turned away at the border to be a "deportation", regardless of whether they step foot in this country or not. When you remove that bullshit statistic, it turns out that deportations under Obama have decreased quite a bit.

Your arguments are fucking retarded and indicative of an uneducated moron who believes everything fed to him.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on July 01, 2012, 03:04:08 PM
the beating the Dems took in the mid-term elections was due to a lot of issues converging at one time......Obama's birth certificate issue.....the healthcare debate.....the fact that the Repubs would not do anything to help the economy or the American people in any way whatsoever.....so nothing could get done and it was blamed on Obama...the economy......etc..also the tea party was well organized and galvanized

And the Tea Party isn't going to be well-organized and galvanized in 2012 because......

The healthcare debate is BACK, front and center. This time, the people get to see more of ObamaCare's warts.

The Dems had both houses of Congress. So, if anything didn't get done, it was on THEM, not the Republicans.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 01, 2012, 04:38:17 PM
They haven't seen that in THREE YEARS, Andre. The beating the Dems took in 2010 is proof of that.

Romney said it best. ObamaCare was bad law before Thursday; it's bad law NOW. Constitutional or not, it SUCKS!!!

You honestly think Obama and the Dems can do in four months, what they couldn't do in over three years, especially with the added burden of explaining that they've done what they swore they wouldn't do.



Don't you see how hypocritical Romney is for saying its bad law when HE HIMSELF did the same thing>???..I don't care how you twist and turn Mcway you can't worm out of that!!!!!
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on July 01, 2012, 04:41:13 PM
The healthcare debate is BACK, front and center. This time, the people get to see more of ObamaCare's warts.

but nothing has changed.  ya know?

if you opposed obamacare, you still do.  you were never part of the 48% supporting obama in polls.

what % of voters will say "nothing has changed with obamacare, but suddenly I go from supporting it, to being dead set against it"?

The lines were drawn long ago.  it'll galvanize donations from those who were already anti-obama, sure.  But who is going to change their vote because 'nothing has changed'?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 01, 2012, 04:43:27 PM
What else do you want to force people to do?

well..I'd like to force you to get a job
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on July 01, 2012, 04:44:46 PM
Don't you see how hypocritical Romney is for saying its bad law when HE HIMSELF did the same thing>???..I don't care how you twist and turn Mcway you can't worm out of that!!!!!

Hypocriticial? NEGRO, PLEASE!!!

Who raised taxes on the middle class, after swearing he wouldn't do so?

Who looked Rick Warren dead in the eye and said, "Marriage is between a man and a woman", only to "evolve" and grovel before gays for campaign cash?

Who said ObamaCare wasn't a tax, only to have his lawyers defend it as such in court?

Who supposedly hates outsourcing jobs, yet let his boy, Jeff Immelt, ship a major portion of his GE plants overseas and pay ABSOLUTELY ZERO in taxes?

The "Romneycare is ObamaCare" argument didn't work Romney's GOP opponents for over a year. And, it ain't working for Obama, either.

Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on July 01, 2012, 04:46:20 PM
but nothing has changed.  ya know?

if you opposed obamacare, you still do.  you were never part of the 48% supporting obama in polls.

what % of voters will say "nothing has changed with obamacare, but suddenly I go from supporting it, to being dead set against it"?

The lines were drawn long ago.  it'll galvanize donations from those who were already anti-obama, sure.  But who is going to change their vote because 'nothing has changed'?

The answer is: Independents, working-class white voters, and some Obama voters who feel the siphoning of their wallets.

And, if Obama loses too many of working-class whites, he is DONE!!

Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 01, 2012, 04:46:58 PM
Actually, idiot, that was proven to be complete bullshit and just a massaging of numbers. They consider any person turned away at the border to be a "deportation", regardless of whether they step foot in this country or not. When you remove that bullshit statistic, it turns out that deportations under Obama have decreased quite a bit.

Your arguments are fucking retarded and indicative of an uneducated moron who believes everything fed to him.

oh brother..all hail the wizard of truth..you know everything....I have never ever seen you admit to being wrong about anything on GetBig...are you even a human?..do you really exist?...are you a bot?....be wrong about something for a change dude....get real....
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on July 01, 2012, 04:48:38 PM
The answer is: Independents, working-class white voters, and some Obama voters who feel the siphoning of their wallets.

but the repubs aren't offering anything different, and they support probably 80% of obamacare, like "children cannot be refused" and "no rejection based upon pre-existing conditions".

And the mandate, that's a dead issue now.

So um, what exact parts of obamacare are repubs going to run against?  indiv mandate isn't going anywhere, and no way they go after most of the parts.

They'll have ceremonial bullshit votes to waste money and give beck something to talk about - but really, it's over now.  

how exactly are independents going to buy into that again?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on July 01, 2012, 04:53:16 PM
but the repubs aren't offering anything different, and they support probably 80% of obamacare, like "children cannot be refused" and "no rejection based upon pre-existing conditions".

And the mandate, that's a dead issue now.

So um, what exact parts of obamacare are repubs going to run against?  indiv mandate isn't going anywhere, and no way they go after most of the parts.

They'll have ceremonial bullshit votes to waste money and give beck something to talk about - but really, it's over now.  

how exactly are independents going to buy into that again?

How about the parts where their premiums get SHOT through the roof?

The fact that their taxes are going up (75% of ObamaCare's costs hit those making under 120K)?

This notion that the GOP has to offer something different of leave ObamaCare alone is ludicrous. THREE YEARS STRAIGHT, the American people have stated they want ObamaCare gone.

Not gone, once the GOP has an alternative, just plain GONE!!


If Romney wins the White House and the GOP win the Senate, holding the house, kiss ObamaCare goodbye. And, contrary to what some liberals keep claiming, the Republicans don't need a supermajority in the Senate to do it, because Roberts and the four libs on the USSC said ObamaCare was a TAX.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on July 01, 2012, 05:09:52 PM
once the GOP has an alternative.

Well, it's been how many decades now? 

I'm not holding my breath on that one.  Repubs like how it was - when healthy working slobs in their early 30s were paying 250 a month for health insurance.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 01, 2012, 05:12:32 PM
once the GOP has an alternative.

Well, it's been how many decades now? 

I'm not holding my breath on that one.  Repubs like how it was - when healthy working slobs in their early 30s were paying 250 a month for health insurance.



And how much are they going to pay under ThugCare you stupid fuck? 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on July 01, 2012, 05:45:51 PM
once the GOP has an alternative.

Well, it's been how many decades now? 

I'm not holding my breath on that one.  Repubs like how it was - when healthy working slobs in their early 30s were paying 250 a month for health insurance.


The GOP doesn't need one. Nowhere does the loathing of ObamaCare hinge on the Republicans offering an alternative. The American people have said they want it gone.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: tu_holmes on July 01, 2012, 05:51:39 PM
The GOP doesn't need one. Nowhere does the loathing of ObamaCare hinge on the Republicans offering an alternative. The American people have said they want it gone.

Most people have said that they want a healthcare overall. They just don't think that the plan that OBama put out is the right one.

I am in agreement with them, but if most people are, in some way, sensible, then they do want "some" healthcare reform.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on July 01, 2012, 06:40:23 PM
Most people have said that they want a healthcare overall. They just don't think that the plan that OBama put out is the right one.

I am in agreement with them, but if most people are, in some way, sensible, then they do want "some" healthcare reform.

Indeed they do. But, nothing says ObamaCare has to stay, while that's being fleshed out.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: tu_holmes on July 01, 2012, 08:01:08 PM
Indeed they do. But, nothing says ObamaCare has to stay, while that's being fleshed out.

Who fleshes that out?

The Republicans had 15 years to work it out... nothing.

Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on July 01, 2012, 08:21:29 PM
Who fleshes that out?

The Republicans had 15 years to work it out... nothing.



That still doesn't change that fact that people want ObamaCare GONE. And it's been that way from its inception until now.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 01, 2012, 09:48:41 PM
but the repubs aren't offering anything different, and they support probably 80% of obamacare, like "children cannot be refused" and "no rejection based upon pre-existing conditions".

And the mandate, that's a dead issue now.

So um, what exact parts of obamacare are repubs going to run against?  indiv mandate isn't going anywhere, and no way they go after most of the parts.

They'll have ceremonial bullshit votes to waste money and give beck something to talk about - but really, it's over now.  

how exactly are independents going to buy into that again?

exactly
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: James on July 02, 2012, 07:02:09 AM
Remember your comment about Rasmussen being the only honest poll....well they have Obama leading by 1 and he's pulling away in battleground states from Romney

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

Rasmussen has Mitt Romney in the lead again, +2 over Obama)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 02, 2012, 07:06:29 AM
This health care decision is going to ddddooooooommmmm Obama.   The Tea Party has been re-energized and will roll. 

July 4, 1776 - we got rid of one disgusting tyrant and a king.

July 4, 2012 - we must do it again. 



FUBO you muslim kenyan communist pofs as well as everyone who supports you! 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 02, 2012, 11:04:19 AM
Rasmussen has Mitt Romney in the lead again, +2 over Obama)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll


Well, that helps out a little.... ;D

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 02, 2012, 11:06:13 AM

Well, that helps out a little.... ;D

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

Let's talk after Friday when the disastrous jobs data is released.


Funny how all the gay, black, lgbt, marxist, communist, abortion-radicals, public sector parasites, enviro-nazis, and other fringe elements that make up obama's base never want to discuss the economy one bit.     
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on July 02, 2012, 11:56:13 AM
Rasmussen has Mitt Romney in the lead again, +2 over Obama)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Or, as I said earlier, it's a DEAD HEAT!!
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on July 02, 2012, 12:16:07 PM
Or, as I said earlier, it's a DEAD HEAT!!

statistically, mittens manages to claim this.  I dont know how profiting off dead babies will help this, however.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on July 02, 2012, 12:19:26 PM
statistically, mittens manages to claim this.  I dont know how profiting off dead babies will help this, however.

You must have him confused with Planned Parenthood.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: blacken700 on July 02, 2012, 01:31:53 PM
they pull them out and romney burns them FOR PROFIT
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: whork on July 03, 2012, 03:24:05 AM
You must have him confused with Planned Parenthood.

And what does palnned parenthood have to do with dead babies?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 03, 2012, 07:47:52 AM
RASMUSSEN: ROMNEY UP ANOTHER POINT TODAY, 47% to 44%
 Rasmussen Reports ^ | 7/3/12 | Rasmussen




The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows Mitt Romney attracting 47% of the vote, while President Obama earns 44%. Four percent (4%) prefer some other candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided.

Last week, the president received an immediate bounce following the Supreme Court ruling on his health care law. On the night of the ruling, the single night poll results were by far the best recorded for Obama in many months. Over the past few days, the numbers have returned to where they’ve been for most of the past month
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on July 03, 2012, 08:46:05 AM
And what does palnned parenthood have to do with dead babies?

look, mitt made a shitload of $$$$$$$$$$$ with a firm that disposed of dead babies.   who cares, that was years ago.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: dario73 on July 03, 2012, 08:51:45 AM
look, mitt made a shitload of $$$$$$$$$$$ with a firm that disposed of dead babies.   who cares, that was years ago.

Is Obama against abortion?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: blacken700 on July 03, 2012, 09:00:15 AM
obama is pro abortion
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on July 03, 2012, 09:27:37 AM
Is Obama against abortion?

i believe both 2012 candidates are/were okay with abortion.

mitt was pro-choice and made $$$ actually disposing of the babies.
obama has said he's against it but respects right of women to chooce, and has never ran a company that disposed of corpses.

so it's a wash?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 03, 2012, 08:07:01 PM
Most people have said that they want a healthcare overall. They just don't think that the plan that OBama put out is the right one.

I am in agreement with them, but if most people are, in some way, sensible, then they do want "some" healthcare reform.

Mcway caught in another lie
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 03, 2012, 08:16:21 PM
Mcway caught in another lie

How are those Obama kneepads working for you?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 03, 2012, 08:24:00 PM
How are those Obama kneepads working for you?

working as well as your Romney-Cain-Palin-Newt kneepads
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 03, 2012, 08:26:08 PM
working as well as your Romney-Cain-Palin-Newt kneepads


Lol.  Cain palin or newt would be way better than 95erbama. 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: dario73 on July 06, 2012, 05:00:47 AM
(http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/romney_vs_obama/july_2012/romney_vs_obama_july_3_2012/721181-1-eng-US/romney_vs_obama_july_3_2012.jpg)

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows Mitt Romney attracting 47% of the vote, while President Obama earns 44%. Four percent (4%) prefer some other candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided.

Last week, the president received an immediate bounce following the Supreme Court ruling on his health care law. On the night of the ruling, the single night poll results were by far the best recorded for Obama in many months. Over the past few days, the numbers have returned to where they’ve been for most of the past month—Romney up slightly among likely voters in a very close race.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on July 06, 2012, 05:48:21 AM
the trend has been very clear - and repubs are starting to notice too.

Mitt has an historic opportunity here.  An incumbent in a great depression who shoved obamacare down throats.

yet he isn't gaining ground - he is (provably) losing ground now.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 06, 2012, 05:53:37 AM
the trend has been very clear - and repubs are starting to notice too.

Mitt has an historic opportunity here.  An incumbent in a great depression who shoved obamacare down throats.

yet he isn't gaining ground - he is (provably) losing ground now.

He is winning   51 - 43 in the swing states as of today. 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on July 06, 2012, 05:55:30 AM
He is winning   51 - 43 in the swing states as of today. 

eh, there was a quinnipiac poll saying exactly the opposite all over msnbc yesterday.   

What does RCP - the most reliable site for this - say about swing states?  And why isn't nate 538 on this?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 08, 2012, 03:45:07 PM
Back to a clean sweep for Obama.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2012, 10:08:30 AM
Back to a clean sweep for Obama.

Ras up by three

Tied in gallup

Up in wash Times

Tied in ABC/WAPO poll in poll oversampled demos by 9 points. 




Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2012, 10:34:59 AM
Romney Extends Lead Among Independents to 14 percent
 examiner.com ^ | JULY 10, 2012 | DAN SPENCER


Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:17:51 PM by BarnacleCenturion

In the new ABC News/Washington Post poll, former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney extends his lead among Independents to 14 points, 53-39 percent.


(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 13, 2012, 08:20:38 AM
Ras up by three

Tied in gallup

Up in wash Times

Tied in ABC/WAPO poll in poll oversampled demos by 9 points. 


Ras got Obama up and so does Gallup up by 3....





Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Shockwave on July 13, 2012, 09:04:53 AM

Learn 2 quote! You always fuck your quotes up and it pisses me off!

That is all.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 21, 2012, 05:56:24 AM
The sweep is back.....Obama leading in Ras and Gallup poll....guess the people wanna see those tax records
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on July 21, 2012, 11:47:56 AM
The sweep is back.....Obama leading in Ras and Gallup poll....guess the people wanna see those tax records
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

the issue will be out of the headlines in a week, i'm told.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Dos Equis on July 23, 2012, 11:00:29 AM
The sweep is back.....Obama leading in Ras and Gallup poll....guess the people wanna see those tax records
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

Do you even look at these links?  There is no "clean sweep."  This race is a dead heat.  Given the margin of error, which is usually around 3 percent or so, they are tied. 

The RCP average is 45.9 Obama, 44.8, Romney.  That's a tie. 
Rass is 46 Romney, 43 Obama.  That's probably within the margin of error, so effectively a tie.
Gallup is 46 Obama, 45 Romney.  A tie.
Fox is 45 Obama, 41 Romney.  Might be just outside the margin of error.
CBS is 47 Romney, 46 Obama.  A tie.
NPR is 47 Obama, 45 Romney.  Another tie.  Etc., etc. 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 23, 2012, 03:45:00 PM
Do you even look at these links?  There is no "clean sweep."  This race is a dead heat.  Given the margin of error, which is usually around 3 percent or so, they are tied. 

The RCP average is 45.9 Obama, 44.8, Romney.  That's a tie. 
Rass is 46 Romney, 43 Obama.  That's probably within the margin of error, so effectively a tie.
Gallup is 46 Obama, 45 Romney.  A tie.
Fox is 45 Obama, 41 Romney.  Might be just outside the margin of error.
CBS is 47 Romney, 46 Obama.  A tie.
NPR is 47 Obama, 45 Romney.  Another tie.  Etc., etc. 



In a tie situation.....Obama wins.  Romney isn't pulling ahead and hasn't pulled ahead....


We already knew the election would be close but Obama has been on all accounts and if the election was held today, Obama would get 332 electoral votes to Romney's 212.....


Romney has to do better period or he is certain to lose
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Dos Equis on July 23, 2012, 03:53:19 PM

In a tie situation.....Obama wins.  Romney isn't pulling ahead and hasn't pulled ahead....


We already knew the election would be close but Obama has been on all accounts and if the election was held today, Obama would get 332 electoral votes to Romney's 212.....


Romney has to do better period or he is certain to lose

If you look at history, that's not accurate.  A challenger facing an incumbent has been trailing at this point in the election.  In addition to that, if you look at how much cover the media gives Obama and how much money Obama has already spent on negative ads, and they're still tied, that shows Romney is in pretty good shape.   

Also, undecided voters will break largely for the challenger, especially in this kind of economic climate. 

In any event, the "clean sweep" claim is not correct.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 23, 2012, 04:22:19 PM
 :).  I think that once the polls start using only likley voters will we get a better picture, but if we get 5 more bad jobs reports as expected obama is done.   His approval in the mid forties is terrible for an incumbent. 

W only sqeeked by because he turned the wot into a positive for himself. 

Obama has no issue to turn into a positive that voters will be thrilled about to give him four more years to destroy this country.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Dos Equis on July 23, 2012, 04:27:40 PM
:).  I think that once the polls start using only likley voters will we get a better picture, but if we get 5 more bad jobs reports as expected obama is done.   His approval in the mid forties is terrible for an incumbent. 

W only sqeeked by because he turned the wot into a positive for himself. 

Obama has no issue to turn into a positive that voters will be thrilled about to give him four more years to destroy this country.

I agree with this.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on July 23, 2012, 04:56:40 PM
romney has lost his top 3 issues - DREAM, obamacare, and his busines experience to brag about.

what is he going to talk about now?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Straw Man on July 23, 2012, 05:12:39 PM
romney has lost his top 3 issues - DREAM, obamacare, and his busines experience to brag about.

what is he going to talk about now?

his wife's horse is going to be in the Olympics

I'm sure that will help him relate to middle american swing voters
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on July 23, 2012, 05:24:53 PM
his wife's horse is going to be in the Olympics

I'm sure that will help him relate to middle american swing voters

One of my 5 fish from Pet Kingdom is very fast.  Slow one is named Piper... and the fast one is "Hyper". 

I feel like Mitt and I are old buddies.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on July 23, 2012, 09:25:48 PM
romney has lost his top 3 issues - DREAM, obamacare, and his busines experience to brag about.

what is he going to talk about now?

Thanks to Obama, he can talk about how small businesses are under assault by a guy who thinks that entreprneurs didn't really build their businesses. All this money Obama has blown on negative ads (he's in the red and isn't raising anywhere near the money he expected) and he's still tied with Romney.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on July 24, 2012, 05:02:46 AM
you set very low expectations for romney.

he's up against a prez that historically is AWFUL.  and just like when he underperformed against clods like Perry and newt and CAIN, he's underperforming again.

We know Jeb wouldn't be tied right now ;)  he'd be up by 8 points in every poll. 

So yes, romney is underachieving.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: James on July 24, 2012, 04:34:07 PM
Undecided Lean To Insurgent

With most current presidential polls of likely voters showing 9 percent to 10 percent undecided, the question of where the undecided votes go becomes of paramount importance.

To answer this question, I compared the final Gallup polls with the actual results in every race in which an incumbent president was opposing an insurgent since 1964. This included the Johnson-Goldwater race of 1964, the Nixon-McGovern race of 1972, the Carter-Ford race of 1976, the Reagan-Carter-Anderson race of 1980, the Reagan-Mondale race of 1984, the Clinton-Bush-Perot race of 1992, the Clinton-Dole race of 1996 and the Bush-Kerry race of 2004.

In these races, the undecided vote went heavily for the insurgent and the incumbent lost vote share between the final poll and the election, even when the incumbent was winning the contest easily overall. Six of eight presidents seeking reelection performed worse than the final Gallup poll predicted, while one finished the same (Reagan in 1984) and one gained votes (Bush in 2004). Seven of the nine insurgent candidates did better than the final Gallup survey predicted.

• In 1964, Johnson lost 3 points to Goldwater at the end.

• In 1972, Nixon lost 1 point to a third-party candidate.

• In 1976, there was a 4-point swing to Carter.

• In 1980, there was a 3-point swing to Reagan or Anderson.

• In 1984, there was no change between the final poll and the results.

• In 1992, there was a 1-point shift away from Bush. In that contest, there was also a 5-point swing away from Clinton to Perot at the end.

• In 1996, there was a 5-point swing away from Clinton and to Dole or Perot.

• Only Bush in 2004 ran better in the result than in the final poll, by 
2 points.

In other words, of the total of 
19 points that shifted between the final poll and the election results, 17 points or 89 percent went to the challenger.

The implications of these findings are that the current polls, while seemingly close, portend a strong Republican victory. The RealClearPolitics.com average of the past eight presidential horse race polls shows Obama with a 47-44 lead over Romney. But among likely voters, in the Rasmussen survey (all others were of either registered voters or adults), the president was running behind Romney by 48-44.

But given the historical fact that the final results are almost always worse for the president and almost never better, we really need to focus on the Obama vote share rather than his lead or lack of one against Romney. If Obama is, indeed, getting 44 percent of the vote, he is likely facing, at least, an 11-point loss. If he is getting 47 percent of the vote, he is looking, at least, at a 6-point defeat. (Given the fact that six of the eight incumbent presidents not only lost the undecided, but finished lower than the pre-election survey predicted, it would be more likely that Obama’s margin of defeat would be greater than even these numbers suggest.)

There are other indications of a Republican landslide in the offing. Party identification has moved a net of eight points toward the GOP since the last election. In Senate races, there are currently eight Democratic-held seats where Republicans are now leading either the Democratic incumbent or the Democratic candidate for the open seat.

The predictions of a close election are all based on polling of registered voters — not likely voters — and fail to account for the shift in votes against the incumbent that has been the norm of the past presidential contests.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/04/18/undecided_lean_to_insurgent_113883.html
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Dos Equis on July 24, 2012, 05:20:41 PM
Undecided Lean To Insurgent

With most current presidential polls of likely voters showing 9 percent to 10 percent undecided, the question of where the undecided votes go becomes of paramount importance.

To answer this question, I compared the final Gallup polls with the actual results in every race in which an incumbent president was opposing an insurgent since 1964. This included the Johnson-Goldwater race of 1964, the Nixon-McGovern race of 1972, the Carter-Ford race of 1976, the Reagan-Carter-Anderson race of 1980, the Reagan-Mondale race of 1984, the Clinton-Bush-Perot race of 1992, the Clinton-Dole race of 1996 and the Bush-Kerry race of 2004.

In these races, the undecided vote went heavily for the insurgent and the incumbent lost vote share between the final poll and the election, even when the incumbent was winning the contest easily overall. Six of eight presidents seeking reelection performed worse than the final Gallup poll predicted, while one finished the same (Reagan in 1984) and one gained votes (Bush in 2004). Seven of the nine insurgent candidates did better than the final Gallup survey predicted.

• In 1964, Johnson lost 3 points to Goldwater at the end.

• In 1972, Nixon lost 1 point to a third-party candidate.

• In 1976, there was a 4-point swing to Carter.

• In 1980, there was a 3-point swing to Reagan or Anderson.

• In 1984, there was no change between the final poll and the results.

• In 1992, there was a 1-point shift away from Bush. In that contest, there was also a 5-point swing away from Clinton to Perot at the end.

• In 1996, there was a 5-point swing away from Clinton and to Dole or Perot.

• Only Bush in 2004 ran better in the result than in the final poll, by 
2 points.

In other words, of the total of 
19 points that shifted between the final poll and the election results, 17 points or 89 percent went to the challenger.

The implications of these findings are that the current polls, while seemingly close, portend a strong Republican victory. The RealClearPolitics.com average of the past eight presidential horse race polls shows Obama with a 47-44 lead over Romney. But among likely voters, in the Rasmussen survey (all others were of either registered voters or adults), the president was running behind Romney by 48-44.

But given the historical fact that the final results are almost always worse for the president and almost never better, we really need to focus on the Obama vote share rather than his lead or lack of one against Romney. If Obama is, indeed, getting 44 percent of the vote, he is likely facing, at least, an 11-point loss. If he is getting 47 percent of the vote, he is looking, at least, at a 6-point defeat. (Given the fact that six of the eight incumbent presidents not only lost the undecided, but finished lower than the pre-election survey predicted, it would be more likely that Obama’s margin of defeat would be greater than even these numbers suggest.)

There are other indications of a Republican landslide in the offing. Party identification has moved a net of eight points toward the GOP since the last election. In Senate races, there are currently eight Democratic-held seats where Republicans are now leading either the Democratic incumbent or the Democratic candidate for the open seat.

The predictions of a close election are all based on polling of registered voters — not likely voters — and fail to account for the shift in votes against the incumbent that has been the norm of the past presidential contests.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/04/18/undecided_lean_to_insurgent_113883.html

Very important point.  The toe sucker (Dick Morris) has been saying this recently. 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2012, 10:18:19 AM
DDDUHHHHOOOOO!   



General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Gallup Tracking

Obama 45, Romney 46

Romney +1



General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Rasmussen Tracking

Obama 44, Romney 47

Romney +3
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 27, 2012, 08:49:17 AM
Rasmussen: Daily Presidential Tracking Poll (Romney +5)
 Rasmussen Reports ^ | 7/27/2012 | Rasmussen Reports



The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Mitt Romney attracting 49% of the vote, while President Obama earns support from 44%. Three percent (3%) prefer some other candidate, and four percent (4%) are undecided.

The numbers are similar to the 49% to 43% advantage Romney enjoys on the question of who is trusted more to handle the economy.


(Excerpt) Read more at rasmussenreports.com ...
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: dario73 on July 27, 2012, 09:01:02 AM
All those Bain attacks have not helped Obama at all. What does Obama have left?

This election is for Romney to lose. He needs to stay away from making any stupid comments and continue to focus on the economy. Forget about the social issues. They will not determine the outcome of this election.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 27, 2012, 09:02:11 AM
All those Bain attacks have not helped Obama at all. What does Obama have left?

This election is for Romney to lose. He needs to stay away from making any stupid comments and continue to focus on the economy. Forget about the social issues. They will not determine the outcome of this election.

Obama has ZERO to run on but bullshit attacks on Romney that only make him look worse.     
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 30, 2012, 08:30:50 AM

General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Rasmussen Tracking

Obama 44, Romney 47

Romney +3



Texas Senate - Republican Primary Runoff

PPP (D)

Cruz 52, Dewhurst 42

Cruz +10



President Obama Job Approval

Rasmussen Reports

Approve 47, Disapprove 52

Disapprove +5



Obama and Democrats' Health Care Plan

Rasmussen Reports*

For/Favor 39, Against/Oppose 55

Against/Oppose +16
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 30, 2012, 02:14:46 PM
All those Bain attacks have not helped Obama at all. What does Obama have left?

This election is for Romney to lose. He needs to stay away from making any stupid comments and continue to focus on the economy. Forget about the social issues. They will not determine the outcome of this election.


I agree that Romney should win this election.....its his to lose....but social issues matter to women......Obama could sneak in a victory if white women overwhelmingly vote for him
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 30, 2012, 02:24:42 PM

I agree that Romney should win this election.....its his to lose....but social issues matter to women......Obama could sneak in a victory if white women overwhelmingly vote for him

What is he going to promise them/  Condoms and food stamps?   He already did that? 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 30, 2012, 02:29:39 PM
What is he going to promise them/  Condoms and food stamps?   He already did that? 

you always take a serious discussion and fuck it up...
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Fury on July 30, 2012, 03:00:01 PM
What is he going to promise them/  Condoms and food stamps?   He already did that? 

Equal pay? Haha, just kidding as his office and the offices of other Dem politicians severely underpay their women employees. 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 30, 2012, 08:06:04 PM
Equal pay? Haha, just kidding as his office and the offices of other Dem politicians severely underpay their women employees. 

you always pop into threads with the most ridiculous nonsense :(
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: dario73 on July 31, 2012, 04:57:37 AM
you always pop into threads with the most ridiculous nonsense :(

Is Fury lying?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on July 31, 2012, 04:00:44 PM
Is Fury lying?

yes......yes of course
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 09, 2012, 05:25:45 AM
The sweep is back....


Cue all the meaningless ad...... ;D
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 09, 2012, 08:42:56 AM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 09, 2012, 09:04:30 AM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll




I'm no longer counting Ras since you ignore every other poll..... ;D
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 09, 2012, 09:05:44 AM

I'm no longer counting Ras since you ignore every other poll..... ;D


LOL - Ras was the most accurate in 2008 and the 2010 midterms moron. 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Dos Equis on August 09, 2012, 12:19:19 PM
The sweep is back....


Cue all the meaningless ad...... ;D

Uh, no. 

There are only three polls included in RCP from 2 to 8 August, and they show:

Romney 47, Obama 43 - Rassmussen
Obama 47, Romney 45 - Gallup
Obama 49, Romney 42 - Reuters

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 09, 2012, 12:25:18 PM
Uh, no. 

There are only three polls included in RCP from 2 to 8 August, and they show:

Romney 47, Obama 43 - Rassmussen
Obama 47, Romney 45 - Gallup
Obama 49, Romney 42 - Reuters

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

Reuters is worthless due to their ridiculous sampling models. 

Ras and Gallup are the only two worthwhile at this point.   
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Dos Equis on August 09, 2012, 12:30:42 PM
Reuters is worthless due to their ridiculous sampling models. 

Ras and Gallup are the only two worthwhile at this point.   

In addition to that, Romney will get the majority of the undecided votes, so as long as he's within striking distance or within the margin of error, he's effectively leading. 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 09, 2012, 12:33:38 PM
In addition to that, Romney will get the majority of the undecided votes, so as long as he's within striking distance or within the margin of error, he's effectively leading. 


This is very simple. 

Obama will not have to face the voters and will go even further w the crazy shit if he is elected.   4 more years of total chaos and bs. 

Romney gets in, he has to face the voters in 4 years so he will have to moderate somewhat if he wants a second term. 


anyone knowingly voting for obama at this point is doing so out of blind cult worship and nothing else since even obama himself is not running on his failed record.   
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: syntaxmachine on August 09, 2012, 11:11:30 PM

LOL - Ras was the most accurate in 2008 and the 2010 midterms moron. 

Here is an analysis of Rasmussen's performance during the 2010 midterm elections.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/rasmussen-polls-were-biased-and-inaccurate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/ (http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/rasmussen-polls-were-biased-and-inaccurate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/)

"The 105 polls released in Senate and gubernatorial races by Rasmussen Reports and its subsidiary, Pulse Opinion Research, missed the final margin between the candidates by 5.8 points, a considerably higher figure than that achieved by most other pollsters. Some 13 of its polls missed by 10 or more points, including one in the Hawaii Senate race that missed the final margin between the candidates by 40 points, the largest error ever recorded in a general election in FiveThirtyEight’s database, which includes all polls conducted since 1998.

Moreover, Rasmussen’s polls were quite biased, overestimating the standing of the Republican candidate by almost 4 points on average. In just 12 cases, Rasmussen’s polls overestimated the margin for the Democrat by 3 or more points. But it did so for the Republican candidate in 55 cases — that is, in more than half of the polls that it issued.

If one focused solely on the final poll issued by Rasmussen Reports or Pulse Opinion Research in each state — rather than including all polls within the three-week interval — it would not have made much difference. Their average error would be 5.7 points rather than 5.8, and their average bias 3.8 points rather than 3.9."

(http://www.538host.com/pollacc1.png)

Your grasp on reality is slipping, my friend.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Straw Man on August 10, 2012, 09:28:04 AM
Newser) – The latest poll from CNN has President Obama up 52% to 45% over Mitt Romney among registered voters. Some of the highlights:


•Obama leads among independent voters, 53%-42%.
•Romney's unfavorable rating jumped from 42% to 48% since July, while the president's remained steady at 42%.
•In good news for Romney, 56% of his voters say they "strongly support" him, up from 47% in May. Obama's current mark is 61%.
•In not-so-good news for Romney, the percentage of those who think he would right the economy has fallen from 50% in May to 45%

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/09/cnn-poll-obama-holds-7-point-lead-over-romney/

or if you don't like CNN let's look at the most recent Fox News poll of registered voters which has him up 9 points over Romney


Fox News poll: Obama's lead grows as Romney's support slips
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/09/fox-news-poll-obama-lead-grows-as-romney-support-slips/


The president would take 49 percent of the vote compared to Romney's 40 percent in a head-to-head matchup if the election were held today, the poll found. Last month, Obama had a four percentage-point edge of 45 percent to 41 percent. This marks the second time this year the president has had a lead outside the poll’s margin of sampling error.

Obama’s advantage comes largely from increased support among independents, who now pick him over Romney by 11 percentage points. Some 30 percent of independents are undecided. Last month, Obama had a four-point edge among independents, while Romney had the advantage from April through early June


here is the poll from Fox of registered voters:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2012/08/09/fox-news-poll-presidential-race/
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 10, 2012, 09:33:24 AM
Oversampled Democrats +9  - more crap polls. 


Newser) – The latest poll from CNN has President Obama up 52% to 45% over Mitt Romney among registered voters. Some of the highlights:


•Obama leads among independent voters, 53%-42%.
•Romney's unfavorable rating jumped from 42% to 48% since July, while the president's remained steady at 42%.
•In good news for Romney, 56% of his voters say they "strongly support" him, up from 47% in May. Obama's current mark is 61%.
•In not-so-good news for Romney, the percentage of those who think he would right the economy has fallen from 50% in May to 45%

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/09/cnn-poll-obama-holds-7-point-lead-over-romney/

or if you don't like CNN let's look at the most recent Fox News poll of registered voters which has him up 9 points over Romney


Fox News poll: Obama's lead grows as Romney's support slips
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/09/fox-news-poll-obama-lead-grows-as-romney-support-slips/


The president would take 49 percent of the vote compared to Romney's 40 percent in a head-to-head matchup if the election were held today, the poll found. Last month, Obama had a four percentage-point edge of 45 percent to 41 percent. This marks the second time this year the president has had a lead outside the poll’s margin of sampling error.

Obama’s advantage comes largely from increased support among independents, who now pick him over Romney by 11 percentage points. Some 30 percent of independents are undecided. Last month, Obama had a four-point edge among independents, while Romney had the advantage from April through early June


here is the poll from Fox of registered voters:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2012/08/09/fox-news-poll-presidential-race/
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: blacken700 on August 10, 2012, 09:35:50 AM
Oversampled Democrats +9  - more crap polls. 



give us the link because most on here believe nothing you say or post
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 10, 2012, 09:44:00 AM
give us the link because most on here believe nothing you say or post


You leftists are so fucking lazy and ignorant


________________________ ________________________ ____

POLITICAL IDENTIFICATION When you think about politics, do you think of yourself as a Democrat or a Republican? (Independent (Don’t know / Other) / Refused) 14 6 18 3 19 4 20 2 20 3 17 3 19 2 21 2 16 3 19 1

Democrat Republican 5-7 Aug 12 44 35 15-17 July 12 42 38 24-26 Jun 12 41 36 3-5 Jun 12 41 37 13-15 May 12 42 34 22-24 Apr 12 43 37 9-11 Apr 12 40 39 10-12 Mar 12 40 37 6-9 Feb 12 44 36 12-14 Jan 12 41 39


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2012/08/09/fox-news-poll-presidential-race


Page 13 of this stupid poll 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Straw Man on August 10, 2012, 09:57:19 AM

You leftists are so fucking lazy and ignorant


________________________ ________________________ ____

POLITICAL IDENTIFICATION When you think about politics, do you think of yourself as a Democrat or a Republican? (Independent (Don’t know / Other) / Refused) 14 6 18 3 19 4 20 2 20 3 17 3 19 2 21 2 16 3 19 1

Democrat Republican 5-7 Aug 12 44 35 15-17 July 12 42 38 24-26 Jun 12 41 36 3-5 Jun 12 41 37 13-15 May 12 42 34 22-24 Apr 12 43 37 9-11 Apr 12 40 39 10-12 Mar 12 40 37 6-9 Feb 12 44 36 12-14 Jan 12 41 39


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2012/08/09/fox-news-poll-presidential-race


Page 13 of this stupid poll 

so you're ignoring the Independent and undecided

I thought the common wisdom from right wingers on this board is that the indepdents skewed toward to the right

Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 10, 2012, 10:00:11 AM
so you're ignoring the Independent and undecided

I thought the common wisdom from right wingers on this board is that the indepdents skewed toward to the right





The fact is that even in 2008 the Demos with historical turnout did not have +9 turnout. 

This is more crap polling. 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 10, 2012, 10:01:10 AM
http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx


Gallup has romney +1

Obama approval at 43% 


Ras has Romney +3 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Straw Man on August 10, 2012, 10:06:01 AM


The fact is that even in 2008 the Demos with historical turnout did not have +9 turnout. 

This is more crap polling. 

how about Dems + Independents?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 10, 2012, 10:07:53 AM
how about Dems + Independents?

Doesnt matter - again - you are an ignorant hack. 

A few months ago when this same polling outfit sampled Demos at +4 it showed a 4 point adv for Obama. 

In November no one even obama thinks Demos will be +9
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Straw Man on August 10, 2012, 10:11:24 AM
Doesnt matter - again - you are an ignorant hack. 

A few months ago when this same polling outfit sampled Demos at +4 it showed a 4 point adv for Obama. 

In November no one even obama thinks Demos will be +9

I guess we'll find out in November just what % of Dems, Independents and Repubs show up and we'll also know by what % Obama beats Obama

that's unless of course your personal CT comes true and Obama steps down or is kicked off the ticket before then

Are you still hanging on to that absurd belief ?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 10, 2012, 10:13:11 AM
I guess we'll find out in November just what % of Dems, Independents and Repubs show up and we'll also know by what % Obama beats Obama

that's unless of course your personal CT comes true and Obama steps down or is kicked off the ticket before then

Are you still hanging on to that absurd belief ?


No.   I have underestimated the blind unquestioning and slavish loyalty democrats have tot his corrupt thug 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: blacken700 on August 10, 2012, 10:16:02 AM
Doesnt matter - again - you are an ignorant hack.  

A few months ago when this same polling outfit sampled Demos at +4 it showed a 4 point adv for Obama.  

In November no one even obama thinks Demos will be +9

it doesn' have to be by 9,all they have to do is just win baby;D

Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 10, 2012, 10:18:33 AM
it doesn' have to be by 9,all they have to do is just win baby;D



Gallup and Ras both have Romney up or tied. 

The others are oversampling demos by stupid %. 

I know that to typical leftist slaves and messianic dolts to Thulsa Doom that does not matter, but stay ignorant, lazy, and stupid, its fitting for you considering who you shill for. 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Straw Man on August 10, 2012, 10:25:30 AM
Gallup and Ras both have Romney up or tied. 

The others are oversampling demos by stupid %. 

I know that to typical leftist slaves and messianic dolts to Thulsa Doom that does not matter, but stay ignorant, lazy, and stupid, its fitting for you considering who you shill for. 

speaking of stupid

how stupid are Dems for not realizing that Obama is about to quit or be thrown off the ticket

Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: blacken700 on August 10, 2012, 10:27:55 AM
like i told you before it's all about the  advantage in the Electoral College,obama has that
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Kazan on August 10, 2012, 11:45:17 AM
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Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: blacken700 on August 10, 2012, 12:33:51 PM
(http://www.freakyts.com/siteimages/please%20wait%20attempting%20to%20give%20a%20fuck.jpg)

really,who gives a fuck what you think ;D
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 10, 2012, 12:35:09 PM
really,who gives a fuck what you think ;D


Simple Jack - do you understand what sampling means for polls? 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Dos Equis on August 10, 2012, 12:36:47 PM
(http://www.freakyts.com/siteimages/please%20wait%20attempting%20to%20give%20a%20fuck.jpg)

LOL!   ;D
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: blacken700 on August 10, 2012, 12:41:25 PM

Simple Jack - do you understand what sampling means for polls? 



Simple Jack,  hahaha now you sound like mama's boy, you have to have 270 votes to win don't really care about the polls
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Straw Man on August 10, 2012, 12:41:42 PM

Simple Jack - do you understand what sampling means for polls? 

dont worry 333 - all this polling will be moot when Obama drops out

should be any day now
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 10, 2012, 12:43:29 PM
dont worry 333 - all this polling will be moot when Obama drops out

should be any day now


The only sampling obama knows about is of his lines of coke, envelopes of pot, and his various liasons w gay men in the chicago bath houses w larry sinclaire and chasan chandoo. 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: blacken700 on August 10, 2012, 12:45:47 PM
go check out the electoral college ,shut-in  ;D
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 10, 2012, 12:47:36 PM
go check out the electoral college ,shut-in  ;D


Spike Lee: Barack Obama is 'not perfect'

By KEVIN CIRILLI |
8/10/12 3:35 PM EDT

 
Spike Lee said President Barack Obama is "not perfect," but that expectations for his first term "were way too high."
 
“He was a savior, black Jesus,” the  actor-director told CNN's Don Lemon in an interview airing in its entirety Saturday. “Look, I don't care who it was. Expectations were way too high.”
 
Lee accused Republicans of gridlocking Congress to prevent Obama from winning a second term — "a Congress that's solidified as saying, 'Whatever you do, we're blocking that. We're blocking, and every breath we take, we're going to do what we can that you don't get a second term. Bottom line. And if it hurts America in the process, tough business.'”
 
When asked if Obama has lived up to his promises, Lee answered: “Look, the man’s not perfect. Who's perfect?”
 
Lee said he raised more than $1 million at his Obama fundraiser in January.
 
Obama has long been a fan of Lee. The president has said that he and his wife Michelle saw Lee's breakthrough film, “Do the Right Thing,” on the couple’s first date.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 14, 2012, 10:29:46 AM
Hey - vince - go check out RCP today and meltdown

Even the Politico thread showing Obama +1 oversamples demos. 


Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on August 14, 2012, 11:17:05 AM
it doesn' have to be by 9,all they have to do is just win baby;D



The Raiders haven't won JACK, since the BUCS kicked their behinds in Super Bowl 37.



 ;D
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 14, 2012, 09:33:21 PM
Hey - vince - go check out RCP today and meltdown

Even the Politico thread showing Obama +1 oversamples demos. 





Not that I care but nothing has changed...electoral is still well in Obama's favor and he's winning 9 out of 10 swing states.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 03:10:13 AM

Not that I care but nothing has changed...electoral is still well in Obama's favor and he's winning 9 out of 10 swing states.

Lol.   Keep buying in to that. 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: blacken700 on August 15, 2012, 05:05:34 AM
electoral is still well in Obama's favor
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Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on August 15, 2012, 07:47:14 AM
Lol.   Keep buying in to that. 

It hasn't dawned on Vince that, if they're oversampling Dems in the national polls, they may be doing the same in the EC polls as well
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 07:52:10 AM
It hasn't dawned on Vince that, if they're oversampling Dems in the national polls, they may be doing the same in the EC polls as well

Wait till Romney really pushes the throttle down after the convention when he can spend some of the $$$$ he has. 


Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 10:17:04 AM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls



ddduhhhooooo!!!!!!!!


Enjoy the last few months of the Thugocracy under this looting criminal racial arsonist you morons. 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: blacken700 on August 15, 2012, 10:20:01 AM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/archive/2012_electoral_college_scoreboard

polls are like assholes, everyone has one and they usually stink  ;D
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 01:59:00 PM
Wednesday, August 15




General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Gallup Tracking

Obama 45, Romney 47

Romney +2



General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Rasmussen Tracking

Obama 43, Romney 47

Romney +4



Ohio: Romney vs. Obama

Purple Strategies

Obama 44, Romney 46

Romney +2



Florida: Romney vs. Obama

Purple Strategies

Obama 47, Romney 48

Romney +1



Colorado: Romney vs. Obama

Purple Strategies

Obama 49, Romney 46

Obama +3



Virginia: Romney vs. Obama

Purple Strategies

Obama 45, Romney 48

Romney +3



Ohio Senate - Mandel vs. Brown

Rasmussen Reports

Brown 44, Mandel 44

Tie



President Obama Job Approval

Gallup

Approve 45, Disapprove 49

Disapprove +4



President Obama Job Approval

Rasmussen Reports

Approve 47, Disapprove 52

Disapprove +5









BBBOOOOMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!


PANIC IN THE WH 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: blacken700 on August 15, 2012, 01:59:52 PM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/archive/2012_electoral_college_scoreboard

polls are like assholes, everyone has one and they usually stink  ;D
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: blacken700 on August 15, 2012, 02:02:36 PM
so basicly he got shit for a bump for v.p announcement   :D :D :D :D wooooow i'd be happy
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 02:03:17 PM
so basicly he got shit for a bump for v.p announcement   :D :D :D :D wooooow i'd be happy



LOL - only up up up and away from here.   
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: blacken700 on August 15, 2012, 02:08:03 PM


LOL - only up up up and away from here.   

been saying that for weeks still nothing,200 million a day ring a bell, romney can't even pull a lead on a guy that's not even running  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 02:10:34 PM
been saying that for weeks still nothing,200 million a day ring a bell, romney can't even pull a lead on a guy that's not even running  :D :D :D :D


Romney is up in ras gallup, and moving ahead despite the fact that brokebackbama has been outspending 3-1.   Once the convention is over and Romney can spend his $$$$, its game set match for obama who shot his wad too early. 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: blacken700 on August 15, 2012, 02:13:55 PM

                                          The India Times
Romney is up in ras gallup, and moving ahead despite the fact that brokebackbama has been outspending 3-1.   Once the convention is over and Romney can spend his $$$$, its game set match for obama who shot his wad too early.  

 :D :D
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 02:15:52 PM
:D :D



Go to RCP - its right there for you to melt in your tears once gaybama is sent back to the bath houses of chicago to hang w larry sinclaire. 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: blacken700 on August 15, 2012, 02:19:45 PM
electoral college   :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 02:20:49 PM
electoral college   :D :D :D :D :D

Speaking of college - where are obama's college records? 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 15, 2012, 02:30:43 PM
so basicly he got shit for a bump for v.p announcement   :D :D :D :D wooooow i'd be happy


That's not really even a bump....WTF is Purple Strategies???  There's nothing to indicate that Romney is pulling ahead...more or less trying to keep up
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 02:31:48 PM

That's not really even a bump....WTF is Purple Strategies???  There's nothing to indicate that Romney is pulling ahead...more or less trying to keep up

Gallup +2

Ras +4

Pink Panty Strategies  +15 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: syntaxmachine on August 15, 2012, 02:53:22 PM
Gallup +2

Ras +4

Pink Panty Strategies  +15  

The RCP polling average still says Obama +3.5, and Obama is still ahead in every single swing state (including, most significantly, +3 in Ohio). This may narrow if Romney-Ryan receive a convention bump larger than Obama's and/or if Romney-Ryan dominate the debates. But if all of this occurs it will still be an extremely close election, which is what everyone expects anyway.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 02:55:27 PM
The RCP polling average still says Obama +3.5, and Obama is still ahead in every single swing state (including, most significantly, +3 in Ohio). This may narrow if Romney-Ryan receive a convention bump larger than Obama's, if the August jobs report is abysmal, and/or if Romney-Ryan dominate the debates. But if all of this occurs it will still be an extremely close election, which is what everyone expects anyway.

RCP includes a lot of outliers. 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2012, 02:55:38 PM
The RCP polling average still says Obama +3.5, and Obama is still ahead in every single swing state (including, most significantly, +3 in Ohio). This may narrow if Romney-Ryan receive a convention bump larger than Obama's, if the August jobs report is abysmal, and/or if Romney-Ryan dominate the debates. But if all of this occurs it will still be an extremely close election, which is what everyone expects anyway.

In reality Obama should get destroyed, but hey I don't put any stock in polls anyway. Sampling .0000000003% of the population doesn't really give a good picture
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: tu_holmes on August 15, 2012, 02:56:28 PM
In reality Obama should get destroyed, but hey I don't put any stock in polls anyway. Sampling .0000000003% of the population doesn't really give a good picture

Gallup called my parents house the other day and I happened to be there...

All of my responses were "They both suck shit".
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2012, 02:57:44 PM
Gallup called my parents house the other day and I happened to be there...

All of my responses were "They both suck shit".

Was that an option?   ;D
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on August 15, 2012, 02:59:27 PM
RCP includes a lot of outliers. 

Indeed. Every time Obama is in the low 40s, some poll come out (usually with a HUGE oversampling of Dems, to which people are actually admitting on TV) that puts him at or near 50%.

Team Obama is legitimately concerned about GOP enthusiasm vs. a lack of such on their side. And, now with reports of 40% of young voters leaning towards Romney, that's really got the Hopey-changey guys in panic mode.

If the youth and black turnout is low, due to this economic mess, it's going to get UGLY.

But, in the end, it boils down to working-class whites. If Romney gets about two-thirds of that, it's a wrap.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on August 15, 2012, 10:53:11 PM
Indeed. Every time Obama is in the low 40s, some poll come out (usually with a HUGE oversampling of Dems, to which people are actually admitting on TV) that puts him at or near 50%.

Team Obama is legitimately concerned about GOP enthusiasm vs. a lack of such on their side. And, now with reports of 40% of young voters leaning towards Romney, that's really got the Hopey-changey guys in panic mode.

If the youth and black turnout is low, due to this economic mess, it's going to get UGLY.

But, in the end, it boils down to working-class whites. If Romney gets about two-thirds of that, it's a wrap.


your shilling is amazing
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 16, 2012, 02:57:17 AM
your shilling is amazing

You cult worship of gaybama solely because he is black is revolting.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 17, 2012, 01:45:05 PM
 Man, that bump didn't last at all....came a crashing down ;D


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 17, 2012, 01:46:44 PM
Man, that bump didn't last at all....came a crashing down ;D


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html


LOL - Gallup still up by two and moving ahead in swing states. 


Bro - are you stupid 95ers seriously going to be able to cope when Thug loses in November? 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 20, 2012, 10:46:57 AM

General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Gallup Tracking

Obama 45, Romney 47

Romney +2



General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Rasmussen Tracking

Obama 43, Romney 44

Romney +1



Oklahoma: Romney vs. Obama

Sooner Poll

Romney 58, Obama 29

Romney +29



President Obama Job Approval

Gallup

Approve 47, Disapprove 47

Tie



President Obama Job Approval

Rasmussen Reports

Approve 49, Disapprove 49

Tie



Obama and Democrats' Health Care Plan

Rasmussen Reports*

For/Favor 39, Against/Oppose 52

Against/Oppose +13















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Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on August 20, 2012, 10:53:08 AM
General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Gallup Tracking

Obama 45, Romney 47

Romney +2



General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Rasmussen Tracking

Obama 43, Romney 44

Romney +1



Oklahoma: Romney vs. Obama

Sooner Poll

Romney 58, Obama 29

Romney +29



President Obama Job Approval

Gallup

Approve 47, Disapprove 47

Tie



President Obama Job Approval

Rasmussen Reports

Approve 49, Disapprove 49

Tie



Obama and Democrats' Health Care Plan

Rasmussen Reports*

For/Favor 39, Against/Oppose 52

Against/Oppose +13















dddddddduuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooo ooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obama's back in the low 40s. Cue some outlier poll, with Dems oversampled out the wazoo, to put Obama back near 50%.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 21, 2012, 10:27:50 AM
www.realclearpolitics.co m



Race/Topic   (Click to Sort)

Poll

Results

Spread




General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Gallup Tracking

Obama 45, Romney 47

Romney +2



General Election: Romney vs. Obama

Rasmussen Tracking

Obama 44, Romney 45

Romney +1



Wisconsin: Romney vs. Obama

PPP (D)

Obama 47, Romney 48

Romney +1
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2012, 10:29:17 AM
that's a legitimate lead.  Nothing forced about it.  Polls have a way of rejecting forced numbers.


Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Dos Equis on August 21, 2012, 03:32:03 PM
Obama's back in the low 40s. Cue some outlier poll, with Dems oversampled out the wazoo, to put Obama back near 50%.

There should be a disclaimer attached to polls that oversample one party or the other. 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 21, 2012, 03:39:09 PM
There should be a disclaimer attached to polls that oversample one party or the other. 


Romney is not going to win without releasing his tax forms....period.  The Democrats have done a great job in ads against him, his business, etc.....I honestly think he can't win unless he does it and very very very soon.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Kazan on August 21, 2012, 05:34:59 PM

Romney is not going to win without releasing his tax forms....period.  The Democrats have done a great job in ads against him, his business, etc.....I honestly think he can't win unless he does it and very very very soon.

Only problem is the left wing ding bats are the only ones that care
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: blacken700 on August 21, 2012, 05:40:35 PM
The CNN/ORC poll asked Americans and registered voters whether or not Mitt Romney should release more than two years of tax returns. By a margin of 63%-36%, those polled felt that Romney should release more tax returns. Among registered voters, the result was a similar 61%-37% split.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: tonymctones on August 21, 2012, 05:43:36 PM
The CNN/ORC poll asked Americans and registered voters whether or not Mitt Romney should release more than two years of tax returns. By a margin of 63%-36%, those polled felt that Romney should release more tax returns. Among registered voters, the result was a similar 61%-37% split.
whats the most important issue in the election blacken?

Ill give you a hint, it isnt romneys taxes...
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Kazan on August 21, 2012, 05:46:03 PM
The CNN/ORC poll asked Americans and registered voters whether or not Mitt Romney should release more than two years of tax returns. By a margin of 63%-36%, those polled felt that Romney should release more tax returns. Among registered voters, the result was a similar 61%-37% split.

Who fucking cares about poles, I can take a pole and slant it any way I want by who I ask. And sampling .0000003% of the population is sure way to get a clear picture ::)
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: blacken700 on August 21, 2012, 05:48:49 PM
Who fucking cares about poles, I can take a pole and slant it any way I want by who I ask. And sampling .0000003% of the population is sure way to get a clear picture ::)


yeah ok hahahaha,unless it has romney ahead  :D, why don't you show prove of your post ??? oh that's right you can't
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Kazan on August 21, 2012, 05:51:22 PM

yeah ok hahahaha,unless it has romney ahead  :D, why don't you show prove of your post ??? oh that's right you can't

Yeah you see me posting polls all the time ::) You are dumber than shit if you think a poll can't be easily manipulated.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: blacken700 on August 21, 2012, 05:53:22 PM
Only problem is the left wing ding bats are the only ones that care

link, show me something or your just talking out your ass  :D
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: tonymctones on August 21, 2012, 05:57:54 PM
whats the most important issue in the election blacken?

Ill give you a hint, it isnt romneys taxes...
no answer?

the private sector is doing fine, right blacken?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Kazan on August 21, 2012, 05:59:24 PM
link, show me something or your just talking out your ass  :D

Here is a link www.shutyourfuckingpieho le.com

The only place this bullshit is even mentioned is this board by the usual suspects
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: blacken700 on August 21, 2012, 06:02:48 PM
Here is a link www.shutyourfuckingpieho le.com

just as i thought  :D. this shit goes on all the time on this board
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: tonymctones on August 21, 2012, 06:03:56 PM
whats the most important issue in the election blacken?

Ill give you a hint, it isnt romneys taxes...
no answer?

the private sector is doing fine, right blacken?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: blacken700 on August 21, 2012, 06:05:56 PM
can you read the title of the post,always wanting to change the subject
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: tonymctones on August 21, 2012, 06:15:22 PM
can you read the title of the post,always wanting to change the subject
where does the title mention taxes brainchild?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Kazan on August 21, 2012, 06:16:23 PM
just as i thought  :D. this shit goes on all the time on this board

Blah blah blah, go back to masturbating
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2012, 06:41:36 PM
The CNN/ORC poll asked Americans and registered voters whether or not Mitt Romney should release more than two years of tax returns. By a margin of 63%-36%, those polled felt that Romney should release more tax returns. Among registered voters, the result was a similar 61%-37% split.

Only problem is the left wing ding bats are the only ones that care

It seems 2/3 of the nation cares.  It's a stupid issue IMO... but romney never should have answered the Q without being willing to back it up.

I paid legal taxes.  Next question, econom-destoryer.  Thats it.  Trying to sell some number without releasing it = poor form. 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Kazan on August 21, 2012, 06:42:51 PM
It seems 2/3 of the nation cares.  It's a stupid issue IMO... but romney never should have answered the Q without being willing to back it up.

I paid legal taxes.  Next question, econom-destoryer.  Thats it.  Trying to sell some number without releasing it = poor form. 

And you've determined this by a poll that samples .0000003% of the population? Yeah OK
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2012, 06:43:44 PM
And you've determined this by a poll that samples .0000003% of the population? Yeah OK

don't most polls survey about 1,010 people?  I mean, can we discount every prez poll because they don't ask 110,000,000 people the Q?  lol
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Kazan on August 21, 2012, 06:47:58 PM
don't most polls survey about 1,010 people?  I mean, can we discount every prez poll because they don't ask 110,000,000 people the Q?  lol

I don't give a shit about polls. They're only purpose is to try and influence heard mentality. Well everyone else is voting for candidate x because the poll says so.

The phone rings and it is some pollster, sorry I don't give a shit about polls, click
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Fury on August 21, 2012, 06:49:00 PM
I don't give a shit about polls. They're only purpose is to try and influence heard mentality. Well everyone else is voting for candidate x because the poll says so.

You're going to make him cry.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Kazan on August 21, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
You're going to make him cry.

Well according to the exit polls Kerry was going to destroy Bush, not so much
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Dos Equis on August 21, 2012, 08:07:39 PM

Romney is not going to win without releasing his tax forms....period.  The Democrats have done a great job in ads against him, his business, etc.....I honestly think he can't win unless he does it and very very very soon.

Show me a poll of likely independent and other swing voters (e.g., crossover Democrats) that shows a majority, or even a significant number will vote for Obama over Romney because of tax returns. 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on August 21, 2012, 10:35:28 PM
You're going to make him cry.

doubtful
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on August 21, 2012, 10:37:30 PM
Show me a poll of likely independent and other swing voters (e.g., crossover Democrats) that shows a majority, or even a significant number will vote for Obama over Romney because of tax returns. 

That's wishful thinking on Vince's part. He is of the delusion that people are going to ignore the economy and jobs (and Obama's lousy record on both) to focus on Romney's taxes.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2012, 10:37:51 PM
Show me a poll of likely independent and other swing voters (e.g., crossover Democrats) that shows a majority, or even a significant number will vote for Obama over Romney because of tax returns.  

Bill kristol telling him to release them now?   yikes
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: MCWAY on August 21, 2012, 10:39:40 PM
Bill kristol telling him to release them now?   yikes

Or what? He's going to hold his breath, until he turns blue?
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: andreisdaman on August 21, 2012, 10:39:58 PM
Bill kristol telling him to release them now?   yikes

exactly....you know the guys on this board are neo-cons when they are to the RIGHT of Kristol and Chris Wallace
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 10, 2012, 09:57:36 AM
http://www.businessinsider.com/suffolk-poll-romney-obama-virginia-florida-nc-election-2012-10


LANDSLIDE COMING 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Option D on October 10, 2012, 10:04:36 AM
http://www.businessinsider.com/suffolk-poll-romney-obama-virginia-florida-nc-election-2012-10


LANDSLIDE COMING 

And then BOOM... We are gonna be rollin in the Dough again.  ::)
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 10, 2012, 10:09:08 AM
And then BOOM... We are gonna be rollin in the Dough again.  ::)

Get this through your thick head. 

Obama = DISASTER 1000000% CHANCE

Romney = 50-75% Chance of Disaster.


PROBABLE DISASTER IS BETTER THAN PROVABLE AND DEMONSTRATED FAILURE.
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Option D on October 10, 2012, 10:49:28 AM
Get this through your thick head. 

Obama = DISASTER 1000000% CHANCE

Romney = 50-75% Chance of Disaster.


PROBABLE DISASTER IS BETTER THAN PROVABLE AND DEMONSTRATED FAILURE.

Hey tell yourself what you have to
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 10, 2012, 10:51:10 AM
Hey tell yourself what you have to

I really feel bad for you 94ers.   You were so conned and lied to that you still don't have even have a remote grasp on reality of the obama disaster. 
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Option D on October 10, 2012, 11:00:54 AM
I really feel bad for you 94ers.   You were so conned and lied to that you still don't have even have a remote grasp on reality of the obama disaster. 
oh ok cool
Title: Re: Clean Sweep For Obama In All Polls...Including Rasmussen 3333386
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 10, 2012, 01:18:55 PM
IBD/TIPP 2012 Presidential Election Daily Tracking Poll (R 49 O 44, R +20 w Indies)
 Investors Business Daily ^ | 10/10/2012 | Staff

Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:14:07 PM by nhwingut

Romney’s lead widened to 5 points from 2 points on Tuesday, as he continues to chip away at key Obama support.

Romney’s edge among independents widened to 20 points from 18 just a day before.

Obama’s lead among women narrowed from 10 points to 8 points.

Romney also continues to make inroads among middle-class voters, moving from a 6-point lead against Obama with this group to a 10-point lead.

The current data include only polls taken after Romney’s resounding debate win over Obama on Oct. 3.


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