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Title: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on July 10, 2012, 02:25:45 AM
I had grown accustomed to dems being bitches, but lately I've seen quite the wave of, "Oh I'm sorry I said that" from republicans...  WTF lol...

The latest, but there has been many more recent "I'm so sorry I said that" moments from republicans: :-\

http://news.yahoo.com/maine-governor-lepage-apologizes-gestapo-015023435.html
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2012, 02:54:54 AM
I had grown accustomed to dems being bitches, but lately I've seen quite the wave of, "Oh I'm sorry I said that" from republicans...  WTF lol...

The latest, but there has been many more recent "I'm so sorry I said that" moments from republicans: :-\

http://news.yahoo.com/maine-governor-lepage-apologizes-gestapo-015023435.html

LePage was right! 

A bunch of heebs got all upset.   
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on July 10, 2012, 03:21:13 AM
A bunch of heebs got all upset.  
go ahead and explain that comment to us? lol...
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2012, 03:30:49 AM
go ahead and explain that comment to us? lol...

They got their tuchas all upset and demanded an apology for his use of the word Gestapo, implying nazi tyranny. 


LePage was right though, And those matzo mofos need to stop bitching.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on July 10, 2012, 03:54:00 AM
They got their tuchas all upset and demanded an apology for his use of the word Gestapo, implying nazi tyranny.  


LePage was right though, And those matzo mofos need to stop bitching.
Ok, fucking heebs...  ::)  I agree if that's the case...

But I'm right, republicans have been saying sorry all over the place for shit these days and that's new.  WTF?
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2012, 04:17:26 AM
Ok, fucking heebs...  ::)  I agree if that's the case...

But I'm right, republicans have been saying sorry all over the place for shit these days and that's new.  WTF?

Of course you are right.   the GOP is a sad sack of pathetic shit afraid of its own shadow.   Makes me sick. 

Mconnell, Boehner, Cantor, Mittens, et al - geez!  A bunch of fucking pussies, all of them. 

Ill take Issa and Christie and day over those frauds.   
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on July 10, 2012, 04:26:44 AM
Of course you are right.   the GOP is a sad sack of pathetic shit afraid of its own shadow.   Makes me sick. 

Mconnell, Boehner, Cantor, Mittens, et al - geez!  A bunch of fucking pussies, all of them. 

Ill take Issa and Christie and day over those frauds.   
Issa is a serious class act imo.  If that guy keeps going the way has been, we'll have a president Issa some day.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: 240 is Back on July 10, 2012, 04:34:08 AM
romney scared to offend anyone.  keeps taking these "obama is terrible" positions without clarifying anything he'd do differently.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 10, 2012, 04:36:43 AM
go ahead and explain that comment to us? lol...

haha!!!
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 10, 2012, 05:21:52 AM
I had grown accustomed to dems being bitches, but lately I've seen quite the wave of, "Oh I'm sorry I said that" from republicans...  WTF lol...

The latest, but there has been many more recent "I'm so sorry I said that" moments from republicans: :-\

http://news.yahoo.com/maine-governor-lepage-apologizes-gestapo-015023435.html


Because they have votes to pander for and protect
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on July 10, 2012, 05:34:33 AM

Because they have votes to pander for and protect
yea, actually nobody here cares what you have to say so fuck off...  Your pissing on the Declaration of Independence was your last straw.  Nobody gives a shit what you say now.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 10, 2012, 06:15:42 AM
yea, actually nobody here cares what you have to say so fuck off...  Your pissing on the Declaration of Independence was your last straw.  Nobody gives a shit what you say now.


Perhaps you forgot that my family was picking cotton and getting whips to the back while that was being written.  That piece of paper doesn't mean shit to me because it was written for white people only....n i g g e r s in the meantime were counted as 1/3 of a human being....so fuck you

Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Shockwave on July 10, 2012, 06:21:25 AM

Perhaps you forgot that my family was picking cotton and getting whips to the back while that was being written.  That piece of paper doesn't mean shit to me because it was written for white people only....n i g g e r s in the meantime were counted as 1/3 of a human being....so fuck you


Really? Your family was picking cotton? You are a fucking idiot. You've never experienced slavery, neither has anyone in your family for generations, so STFU.
You have no right to claim shit when it comes to slavery just because your black you fucking pansy.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2012, 06:25:07 AM

Perhaps you forgot that my family was picking cotton and getting whips to the back while that was being written.  That piece of paper doesn't mean shit to me because it was written for white people only....n i g g e r s in the meantime were counted as 1/3 of a human being....so fuck you



STFU - typical cry baby bullshit. 

If not for the blood shed by the founders - and 600,000 white war dead in the civil war, you would still be in the fields. 

How convenient you cry babies forget that.   
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Shockwave on July 10, 2012, 06:26:43 AM
STFU - typical cry baby bullshit. 

If not for the blood shed by the founders - and 600,000 white war dead in the civil war, you would still be in the fields. 

How convenient you cry babies forget that.   
Or in Africa, starving with teh AID's and living in mud huts.
The fact of the fucking matter is, his ancestors suffering made his life today possible, fucking idiot.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 10, 2012, 02:13:29 PM

Perhaps you forgot that my family was picking cotton and getting whips to the back while that was being written.  That piece of paper doesn't mean shit to me because it was written for white people only....n i g g e r s in the meantime were counted as 1/3 of a human being....so fuck you

Yet you're still here enjoying the evil white mans independence?  ???

Go be gay in Uganda.



Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: chadstallion on July 10, 2012, 02:17:02 PM
yea, actually nobody here cares what you have to say so fuck off...  Your pissing on the Declaration of Independence was your last straw.  Nobody gives a shit what you say now.
that's not quite true. Vince has over 10k posts; and i find them as interesting and entertaining as 333386.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 10, 2012, 02:21:29 PM
STFU - typical cry baby bullshit.  

If not for the blood shed by the founders - and 600,000 white war dead in the civil war, you would still be in the fields.  

How convenient you cry babies forget that.    

My relatives were virtual slaves to Appalachian Coal Companies, my grandfathers great uncles died (fighting on both sides) in the Civil War.  These people (with no education, healthcare, SHOES) walked here 600 miles and took insanely dirty, dangerous jobs in Paper Mills and Steel Mills.  My grandfather was drafted into World War II and nearly killed, my other grandfather died in Korea, my uncles were sent off to Vietnam.

I've not experienced any of these hardships (like Goodrum).

Most of our Ancestors (black and white) faced horrible adversity. 
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2012, 02:22:47 PM
My relatives were virtual slaves to Appalachian Coal Companies, my grandfathers great uncles died (fighting on both sides) in the Civil War.  These people (with no education, healthcare, SHOES) walked here 600 miles and took insanely dirty, dangerous jobs in Paper Mills and Steel Mills.  My grandfather was drafted into World War II and nearly killed, my other grandfather died in Korea, my uncles were sent off to Vietnam.

I've not experienced any of these hardships (like Goodrum).

Vince should be ashamed of himself for dropping a turd on the DOI.  .   
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 10, 2012, 04:36:13 PM
First off, don't mix in the Civil War with the Declaration of Independence.  Secondly, I stand by my conclusion regarding the DOI.  Here you have the Revolutionary War where people are screaming freedom while in the meantime you are dragging people from Africa...whether sold my tribesman or taken by force to the United States against their will to work in the fields.


You can't cry out for freedom when you enslave another human being.  When the Civil War came along, that's when people began to wake up and realize that they were not living the values of the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence along it took another 100 years to get everything right.


BTW,  there are no "FOUNDERS" of this country because it was already inhabited by Indians to which were forced off their land, given diseased blankets and marched to death (See Trail Of Tears)



My family has served this country and I've served this country so I have every right to comment in regards to its history because I fucking earned it more than others.  Say what you like, but I'm historically correct on the facts.



We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 10, 2012, 04:41:30 PM
By the way, here's some reference material to contemplate....I hope you dipshit realize that a number of passages were taken out of the DOI to applease slavery trade.... ::)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_men_are_created_equal



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Day


If there be an object truly ridiculous in nature, it is an American patriot, signing resolutions of independency with the one hand, and with the other brandishing a whip over his affrighted slaves......Thomas Day
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Shockwave on July 10, 2012, 04:48:02 PM
By the way, here's some reference material to contemplate....I hope you dipshit realize that a number of passages were taken out of the DOI to applease slavery trade.... ::)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_men_are_created_equal



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Day


If there be an object truly ridiculous in nature, it is an American patriot, signing resolutions of independency with the one hand, and with the other brandishing a whip over his affrighted slaves......Thomas Day
You werent a slave - no member of your family was a slave - no one you've ever known was a slave, so SHUT THE FUCK UP and enjoy what the evil white man has given you.

You dont see me denouncing anything even though my ancestors had their land stolen and they were shoved on reservations do you? No. You know why? Thats the way it was, and if it werent for the "evil white man" landing and claiming this land as their own, I wouldnt be here today enjoying the very thing that those same "evil white men" built.

Shut. The. Fuck. Up. And be thankful that the DOI even happened - if it didnt, you may have had the misfortune of actually knowing what its like to be a slave.
Fuckin idiot.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2012, 04:51:43 PM
embarrassing beyond words how short sighted and myopic you are on this.




First off, don't mix in the Civil War with the Declaration of Independence.  Secondly, I stand by my conclusion regarding the DOI.  Here you have the Revolutionary War where people are screaming freedom while in the meantime you are dragging people from Africa...whether sold my tribesman or taken by force to the United States against their will to work in the fields.


You can't cry out for freedom when you enslave another human being.  When the Civil War came along, that's when people began to wake up and realize that they were not living the values of the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence along it took another 100 years to get everything right.


BTW,  there are no "FOUNDERS" of this country because it was already inhabited by Indians to which were forced off their land, given diseased blankets and marched to death (See Trail Of Tears)



My family has served this country and I've served this country so I have every right to comment in regards to its history because I fucking earned it more than others.  Say what you like, but I'm historically correct on the facts.



We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 10, 2012, 05:01:44 PM
You werent a slave - no member of your family was a slave - no one you've ever known was a slave, so SHUT THE FUCK UP and enjoy what the evil white man has given you.

You dont see me denouncing anything even though my ancestors had their land stolen and they were shoved on reservations do you? No. You know why? Thats the way it was, and if it werent for the "evil white man" landing and claiming this land as their own, I wouldnt be here today enjoying the very thing that those same "evil white men" built.

Shut. The. Fuck. Up. And be thankful that the DOI even happened - if it didnt, you may have had the misfortune of actually knowing what its like to be a slave.
Fuckin idiot.



I'm thankful for the white people who actually had the god given sense to enforce the actual ideals of the DOI and speak out against it as well as the blacks that fought and died in the civil war for freedom, got lynched in the South just for wanting to vote and sprayed with water hoses and bitten by dogs from Bull Connor....not the people who wrote it and then decided later on.....well everyone is equal except for n i g g e r s and removed the key passages criticizing the slave trade.  I owe no alligence to a piece of paper or a document....only to this country which I served and defended.


And lets not humor ourselves....there's no telling what the state of Africa would be in had it not been for British or American intervention or apartheid.  The majority of Africa's wealth has been pilfered over centuries of the blood diamond trade and war.  History could and would have been likely different.  And as I stated before....even if I was born and raised in Africa, I still would have made it to where I am due to my willpower....just as I did growing up in the projects.

 

Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Shockwave on July 10, 2012, 05:33:52 PM
even if I was born and raised in Africa, I still would have made it to where I am due to my willpower....just as I did growing up in the projects.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 10, 2012, 05:36:08 PM
You can't cry out for freedom when you enslave another human being.  

They weren't being hypercritical.  They sincerely believed Africans were sub human.  
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2012, 05:37:19 PM
They weren't being hypercritical.  They sincerely believed Africans were sub human.  

There was huge disagreement over the slave issue.   To act like it was a unanimous belief is pure nonsense.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 10, 2012, 05:39:54 PM
there are no "FOUNDERS" of this country because it was already inhabited by Indians

There was land, but no country or civilization before our dear founders created one.

Like I said in another thread: I'm glad my white European ancestors took the initiative to build this society.  The world we enjoy today would be non existent had civilized societies future been left up to the African Americans that so enjoy the whites mans creation.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 10, 2012, 05:44:07 PM
And lets not humor ourselves....there's no telling what the state of Africa would be in had it not been for British or American intervention or apartheid.  The majority of Africa's wealth has been pilfered over centuries of the blood diamond trade and war.  History could and would have been likely different.  And as I stated before....even if I was born and raised in Africa, I still would have made it to where I am due to my willpower....just as I did growing up in the projects.

"Since the dawn of history the Negro has owned the continent of Africa – rich beyond the dream of poet’s fancy, crunching acres of diamonds beneath his bare black feet and yet he never picked one up from the dust until a white man showed to him its glittering light.
His land swarmed with powerful and docile animals, yet he never dreamed a harness, cart, or sled.
A hunter by necessity, he never made an axe, spear, or arrowhead worth preserving beyond the moment of its use. He lived as an ox, content to graze for an hour.
In a land of stone and timber he never sawed a foot of lumber, carved a block, or built a house save of broken sticks and mud.
With league on league of ocean strand and miles of inland seas, for four thousand years he watched their surface ripple under the wind, heard the thunder of the surf on his beach, the howl of the storm over his head, gazed on the dim blue horizon calling him to worlds that lie beyond, and yet he never dreamed a sail.”

-Charles Darwin ?

(no racist)
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2012, 05:49:18 PM
No country is perfect in it's history, but I ask you this Vince , please list a few major nations whose pasts are perfect that you feel have higher moral ground?
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 10, 2012, 06:13:12 PM
There was land, but no country or civilization before our dear founders created one.

Like I said in another thread: I'm glad my white European ancestors took the initiative to build this society.  The world we enjoy today would be non existent had civilized societies future been left up to the African Americans that so enjoy the whites mans creation.


There is nothing that can take away from historical fact nor is there any justification for slavery.... NONE regardless as to the state of affairs.  No amount of technology, building structure, or economic status will erase or make up for the atrocities.....even the Pyramids that were built on the back of Jews that were enslaved.


There is nothing good that comes from enslaving someone and treating them as sub-human or in the case of the time during the DOI was written...1/3rd of a human being and I will not argue this matter anymore because it is ridiculous to say that anything good ever came out of slavery....it is against all moral conscience to think otherwise.

The people who wrote the Declaration of Independence did not live by its principles therefore making the document worthless......it sometimes takes the sword and not the pen to change the landscape of society.

Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2012, 06:15:08 PM

who today is arguing that?   








There is nothing that can take away from historical fact nor is there any justification for slavery.... NONE regardless as to the state of affairs.  No amount of technology, building structure, or economic status will erase or make up for the atrocities.....even the Pyramids that were built on the back of Jews that were enslaved.


There is nothing good that comes from enslaving someone and treating them as sub-human or in the case of the time during the DOI was written...1/3rd of a human being and I will not argue this matter anymore because it is ridiculous to say that anything good ever came out of slavery....it is against all moral conscience to think otherwise


Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 10, 2012, 06:16:33 PM
"Since the dawn of history the Negro has owned the continent of Africa – rich beyond the dream of poet’s fancy, crunching acres of diamonds beneath his bare black feet and yet he never picked one up from the dust until a white man showed to him its glittering light.
His land swarmed with powerful and docile animals, yet he never dreamed a harness, cart, or sled.
A hunter by necessity, he never made an axe, spear, or arrowhead worth preserving beyond the moment of its use. He lived as an ox, content to graze for an hour.
In a land of stone and timber he never sawed a foot of lumber, carved a block, or built a house save of broken sticks and mud.
With league on league of ocean strand and miles of inland seas, for four thousand years he watched their surface ripple under the wind, heard the thunder of the surf on his beach, the howl of the storm over his head, gazed on the dim blue horizon calling him to worlds that lie beyond, and yet he never dreamed a sail.”

-Charles Darwin ?

(no racist)



Yes....it was the Garden of Eden....until someone decided to pick the apples from it.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Shockwave on July 10, 2012, 06:18:05 PM

There is nothing that can take away from historical fact nor is there any justification for slavery.... NONE regardless as to the state of affairs.  No amount of technology, building structure, or economic status will erase or make up for the atrocities.....even the Pyramids that were built on the back of Jews that were enslaved.


There is nothing good that comes from enslaving someone and treating them as sub-human or in the case of the time during the DOI was written...1/3rd of a human being and I will not argue this matter anymore because it is ridiculous to say that anything good ever came out of slavery....it is against all moral conscience to think otherwise.

The people who wrote the Declaration of Independence did not live by its principles therefore making the document worthless......it sometimes takes the sword and not the pen to change the landscape of society.


WTF are you smoking?
Just because something is written by someone who doesnt walk the walk doesnt make it worthless, you ignorant fuck.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2012, 06:19:20 PM
Vince is a good glimpse into the demented mind of the average socialist progressive freak.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Option D on July 10, 2012, 06:29:59 PM
STFU - typical cry baby bullshit. 

If not for the blood shed by the founders - and 600,000 white war dead in the civil war, you would still be in the fields. 

How convenient you cry babies forget that.   

Who the fuck are you talking about. Boy... you talk a lot of dumb shit.. like 99.9% of your shit is dumb..
Stay away from this topic.. you arent equipped to discuss it. In knowledge or maturity.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2012, 06:32:11 PM
Who the fuck are you talking about. Boy... you talk a lot of dumb shit.. like 99.9% of your shit is dumb..
Stay away from this topic.. you arent equipped to discuss it. In knowledge or maturity.


LOL.   Nice refutation.   he fact is that this country has shed tons of blood to correct past sins. 
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 10, 2012, 06:34:35 PM
Vince is a good glimpse into the demented mind of the average socialist progressive freak.


I am a true study of American History....I don't just take the crap that is spewed from government indoctorined school civics lessons or the "Hollywood Version" of historial teaching....I study real history.


For example...which person ran an school teaching blacks how to read, write, and do match???  Ulysses S Grant or Robert E Lee????...bet you won't believe who did???


I study history and seek the sometimes inconvient and politically incorrect truth...because that's the right thing to do.  

Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2012, 06:36:54 PM
It's not 1860.   It's 2012.     get over it. 
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Option D on July 10, 2012, 06:37:39 PM

LOL.   Nice refutation.   he fact is that this country has shed tons of blood to correct past sins. 

The blood shead in deaths in the civil war isnt a fraction to the deaths caused by slavery.....Son...like i said... dont begin to discuss this with me.

Im not saying im not grateful, as an American with a father who served 3 terms in Vietnam, A grandfather who server in WW2 another grandfather that served in Korea and an older brother who is going on his 19th year in the marines.. yeah i dont like bloodshead of American Soldiers. But dont try to quantify the American slave trade. This is a discussion that you will be made a fool in (kind of how i do every one of your threads when i have knowledge on the subject)
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2012, 06:41:30 PM
The blood shead in deaths in the civil war isnt a fraction to the deaths caused by slavery.....Son...like i said... dont begin to discuss this with me.

Im not saying im not grateful, as an American with a father who served 3 terms in Vietnam, A grandfather who server in WW2 another grandfather that served in Korea and an older brother who is going on his 19th year in the marines.. yeah i dont like bloodshead of American Soldiers. But dont try to quantify the American slave trade. This is a discussion that you will be made a fool in (kind of how i do every one of your threads when i have knowledge on the subject)

So basically nothing will ever satisfy you. 
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 10, 2012, 06:48:26 PM
The blood shead in deaths in the civil war isnt a fraction to the deaths caused by slavery.....Son...like i said... dont begin to discuss this with me.

Im not saying im not grateful, as an American with a father who served 3 terms in Vietnam, A grandfather who server in WW2 another grandfather that served in Korea and an older brother who is going on his 19th year in the marines.. yeah i dont like bloodshead of American Soldiers. But dont try to quantify the American slave trade. This is a discussion that you will be made a fool in (kind of how i do every one of your threads when i have knowledge on the subject)


Bingo.....333386 thinks that a piece of paper with ink is gospel however it carries no weight unless it is enforced....something that the Declaration of Independence was not at the time....they wrote some fine words with the pen...yet never backed it up with the sword and shield. 


Its no different than your average politican promising you the world and giving a great speech but never doing anything once they are elected. 
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2012, 06:52:53 PM

Bingo.....333386 thinks that a piece of paper with ink is gospel however it carries no weight unless it is enforced....something that the Declaration of Independence was not at the time....they wrote some fine words with the pen...yet never backed it up with the sword and shield. 


Its no different than your average politican promising you the world and giving a great speech but never doing anything once they are elected. 

so fucking leave!   Take all you and your piece of shit 95ers with you and go somewhere else!   if you are NEVER going to be happy in this nation pick up your shit, and go to somalia, the congo, Zaire, or wherever the fuck you want and STFu!   

you idiots are a joke. 
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 10, 2012, 07:08:51 PM
so fucking leave!   Take all you and your piece of shit 95ers with you and go somewhere else!   if you are NEVER going to be happy in this nation pick up your shit, and go to somalia, the congo, Zaire, or wherever the fuck you want and STFu!   

you idiots are a joke. 


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rCk74vgzal8/TS83XZu2MzI/AAAAAAAAAqg/JXRfSeDLdqc/s1600/crying+baby.jpg)
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: blacken700 on July 10, 2012, 07:10:13 PM
hahahaha your the one that never sounds like your happy,don't let the door hit you in the ass  :D :D
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on July 10, 2012, 07:12:39 PM
uh.... oh... oops.... huh lol...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_modern_Africa
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2012, 07:15:19 PM
hahahaha your the one that never sounds like your happy,don't let the door hit you in the ass  :D :D

I'm ok so long as the parasites like Vince and yourself are not demanding more free stiff. 
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 10, 2012, 07:15:50 PM
hahahaha your the one that never sounds like your happy,don't let the door hit you in the ass  :D :D


A person who wishes to make this country better is never happy....he's vigilant in continuing to work to make things better.  When a person becomes complacent with the status quo, that's when the shit hits the fan.

People complain about taxes, Obamacare, low paying jobs, illegal immigration, etc.....but 99% of the people out there don't do anything about it and simply let themselves get walked all over.  


I have stated my opinion and Hugo and 333386 are the ones crying about it.  For someone that talks about the Declaration of Independence, they certainly do not respect the freedom of speech.... ;D
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Shockwave on July 10, 2012, 07:18:56 PM
uh.... oh... oops.... huh lol...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_modern_Africa
Lulz.
You will be ignored.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: blacken700 on July 10, 2012, 07:20:11 PM
your only a true american if you agree with 333386, ::)
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 10, 2012, 07:20:53 PM
uh.... oh... oops.... huh lol...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_modern_Africa



Guess you missed the part about me writing about the Pyramids being built by enslaved Jews ;D
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on July 10, 2012, 07:24:15 PM


Guess you missed the part about me writing about the Pyramids being built by enslaved Jews ;D
yea so? ::)  

You guys were already slaves in Africa before you were slaves here lol...  and they're still enslaving people in Africa lol...  But we're the evil ones huh...
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Option D on July 10, 2012, 07:26:11 PM
uh.... oh... oops.... huh lol...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_modern_Africa

Dude... Africa is in shambles... i totally agree.. i dont want to live there...but to ignore the fact that there was a Berlin conference and Africa was divided and then systematically  stripped of resources and thrown in to economic shambles.. (lets keep it real... Africa is in fucked up shape but it wasnt because it was run primarily by africans, cause it wasnt...

Thats my .2
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Option D on July 10, 2012, 07:27:20 PM
yea so? ::)  

You guys were already slaves in Africa before you were slaves here lol...  and they're still enslaving people in Africa lol...  But we're the evil ones huh...

Lets just stay away from this topic.. its way too deep with many factors to subject it to the normal Getbig discussion style
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 10, 2012, 07:38:17 PM
Dude... Africa is in shambles... i totally agree.. i dont want to live there...but to ignore the fact that there was a Berlin conference and Africa was divided and then systematically  stripped of resources and thrown in to economic shambles.. (lets keep it real... Africa is in fucked up shape but it wasnt because it was run primarily by africans, cause it wasnt...

Thats my .2


Africa is not in shambles.  They are simply in a period of civil turbulance and it will not last forever.  They have problems and we have problems....the world keeps spinning.

There has been a lot of progress made.....solar and wind energy is more available allowing more people with the opportunity to get educated to the world and for people in outward areas to have electricy, better agriculture methods are providing food, and the infrastructure and GDP is increasing.   

It will take many years but a long journey is made with thousands of small steps
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2012, 07:38:46 PM
Lets just stay away from this topic.. its way too deep with many factors to subject it to the normal Getbig discussion style

My peeps were peasants in calzone land and came here penniless. My peeps settled in Harlem and it was only till TJE 3rd generation that they moved to the middle class.   My grandfather worked 10 hours a day in a dry cleaners and my dad as a fence contractor.  

to hear the cry baby whiners today is a fucking joke.  
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2012, 07:39:33 PM


Guess you missed the part about me writing about the Pyramids being built by enslaved Jews ;D

You hear them crying about it as. Reason to excuse failure?   NO! 
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 10, 2012, 07:45:31 PM
You hear them crying about it as. Reason to excuse failure?   NO! 


Some do...just like the Holocaust....what's your point???  Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and beliefs...the world fortunately doesn't revolve around you
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: 240 is Back on July 10, 2012, 07:50:30 PM
I know our country did a lot of fcked up shit.  most of the people who did it are long gone.  we do some shit today, but that's what you do to be #1 in the world.

The only thing that irritates me, to be honest, is the clueless dumbshits who shout "the US doesn't do those bad things like other countries".

Oh we fookin do, as every country does.  We're just the winners.  We're better at it.  And if you deny it, you deserved to be fucked with a frozen shoe.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2012, 07:51:18 PM

Some do...just like the Holocaust....what's your point???  Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and beliefs...the world fortunately doesn't revolve around you

fine, stay in a 1850 state of mind.   Suit yourself. 
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 10, 2012, 10:13:34 PM

There is nothing that can take away from historical fact nor is there any justification for slavery.... NONE regardless as to the state of affairs.  No amount of technology, building structure, or economic status will erase or make up for the atrocities.....even the Pyramids that were built on the back of Jews that were enslaved.


There is nothing good that comes from enslaving someone and treating them as sub-human or in the case of the time during the DOI was written...1/3rd of a human being and I will not argue this matter anymore because it is ridiculous to say that anything good ever came out of slavery....it is against all moral conscience to think otherwise.

The people who wrote the Declaration of Independence did not live by its principles therefore making the document worthless......it sometimes takes the sword and not the pen to change the landscape of society.

My argument is that they didn't know any better.  Your argument is that they were just inherently evil people?
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 10, 2012, 10:26:46 PM
Dude... Africa is in shambles... i totally agree.. i dont want to live there...but to ignore the fact that there was a Berlin conference and Africa was divided and then systematically  stripped of resources and thrown in to economic shambles.. (lets keep it real... Africa is in fucked up shape but it wasnt because it was run primarily by africans, cause it wasnt...

Thats my .2

Why were Europeans in the position to divide Africa up like that, without so much as a challenge from Africa?  Why didn't all of the 19th century governments of African countries have a summit, organize their troops, and resist?  
 
Why weren't the African countries meeting, to divide up Europe?  Why didn't any of the early African explorers ever attempt Colonization around the world, or take foreign slaves?

Africans are a more Ethical people, and wouldn't do such a thing or?


 
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Option D on July 10, 2012, 10:31:40 PM
Why were Europeans in the position to divide Africa up like that, without so much as a challenge from Africa?  Why didn't all the governments of African countries have a summit, organize their troops, and resist?  
 
Why weren't the African countries meeting, to divide up Europe?  Why didn't any of the early African explorers ever attempt Colonization around the world, or take foreign slaves?

Africans are a more Ethical people, and wouldn't do such a thing or?


 

I dont know how it happened.. but it did.. they were ruled by bad landlords and it was left really fucked up
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 10, 2012, 10:46:54 PM
I dont know how it happened.. but it did.. they were ruled by bad landlords and it was left really fucked up

I know it happened.  Long before the white man arrived though, did Africa have any substantial government structure, defense force or civilization to speak of?  ???

I know that outside invaders of Europe, Asia, and the Middle East were frequently repelled by the native populations prior to the 13th century even.  One nation would invade the other, war would ensue, back and forth over and over.  

Why were Europeans allowed to move into Africa, generally without any resistance (maybe even welcomed by Africans that sold other Africans to the invaders)?

 ???

I mean no disrespect here.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: whork on July 11, 2012, 02:37:02 AM
I know it happened.  Long before the white man arrived though, did Africa have any substantial government structure, defense force or civilization to speak of?  ???

I know that outside invaders of Europe, Asia, and the Middle East were frequently repelled by the native populations prior to the 13th century even.  One nation would invade the other, war would ensue, back and forth over and over.  

Why were Europeans allowed to move into Africa, generally without any resistance (maybe even welcomed by Africans that sold other Africans to the invaders)?

 ???

I mean no disrespect here.


Because the europeans had guns
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 11, 2012, 03:26:41 AM
Because the europeans had guns

Yes, Europeans had guns, modern technology, civilization and government.  Along with all of the Middle East, and Asia.    

Africa did not, long before any intervention by Europeans.

Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: whork on July 11, 2012, 04:51:00 AM
Yes, Europeans had guns, modern technology, civilization and government.  Along with all of the Middle East, and Asia.    

Africa did not, long before any intervention by Europeans.



You asked how they could move in to Africa without much resistance? = Guns :)
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Post by: Shockwave on July 11, 2012, 05:06:49 AM
You asked how they could move in to Africa without much resistance? = Guns :)
Combined with a complete lack of tech by the Africans.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: whork on July 11, 2012, 05:52:08 AM
Combined with a complete lack of tech by the Africans.

Yup guns and kanons vs spears and knives
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 11, 2012, 05:57:02 AM
Yup guns and kanons vs spears and knives

Would be no different today.   

The issue is not race, it never has been, its culture. 

The culture is what stinks. 
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: whork on July 11, 2012, 06:46:41 AM
Would be no different today.   

The issue is not race, it never has been, its culture. 

The culture is what stinks. 

Why did there culture stink? They were primitive yes.

But Europeans killed them and made them slaves
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Shockwave on July 11, 2012, 06:53:24 AM
Why did there culture stink? They were primitive yes.

But Europeans killed them and made them slaves
They made themselves slaves.
FYI, there is a helluva lot more history of slavery than just the Africans.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: whork on July 11, 2012, 07:18:11 AM
They made themselves slaves.
FYI, there is a helluva lot more history of slavery than just the Africans.

They made themselves slaves ???

Oh yeah i know :)
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Shockwave on July 11, 2012, 08:14:31 AM
They made themselves slaves ???

Oh yeah i know :)
As in, they made each other slaves, and then sold them off when the europeans showed up.
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: whork on July 11, 2012, 08:21:56 AM
As in, they made each other slaves, and then sold them off when the europeans showed up.

A got ya :)
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 11, 2012, 10:49:33 AM
Yup guns and kanons vs spears and knives
                                                                                                                                                                                           


More to my point
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 11, 2012, 10:53:28 AM
But Europeans killed them and made them slaves

They also made slaves of eachother (prior to the white mans arrival).
Title: Re: why the hell are republicans apologizing for everything they say lately?
Post by: whork on July 12, 2012, 02:37:33 AM
They also made slaves of eachother (prior to the white mans arrival).

No arguing here :)