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Title: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 05:37:55 AM
You work hard, stretch every penny, but chances are you pay a higher tax rate than him: Mitt Romney made $20 million dollars in 2010, but paid only 14% in taxes—probably less than you.

Now he has a plan that will give millionaires another tax break and raises taxes on middle class families by up to $2000 dollars a year. Mitt Romney's middle class tax increase: he pays less, you pay more.

Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Hypo on August 02, 2012, 05:55:57 AM
Please timeout this turd?
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 06:04:15 AM
Please timeout this turd?
eat me, gimmick
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: flipper5470 on August 02, 2012, 06:15:48 AM
Benny...I suspect you couldn't lift Mitt Romney's tax return much less read and comprehend it.
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 06:33:28 AM
Benny...I suspect you couldn't lift Mitt Romney's tax return much less read and comprehend it.
I'm devastated.  ::)
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 02, 2012, 06:35:22 AM
This is not unique to Mitt or any American.  ALL of the rich in this country get away with murder.
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: dr.chimps on August 02, 2012, 06:39:00 AM
This is not unique to Mitt or any American.  ALL of the rich in this country get away with murder.
Exactly. The rich skewing the political dialog and economic landscape to feather their own nests is nothing new, but it is getting ridiculously pronounced. 
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 06:41:16 AM
This is not unique to Mitt or any American.  ALL of the rich in this country get away with murder.

Putting yourself at the head of a nation in order to give yourself and your buddies a gigantic tax break while screwing a 100 million plus of you fellow citizens and ballooning the deficit you pretend to care about? I'd say that's pretty unique to America...even unique to American presidents prior to Dubya.  ;)
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: flipper5470 on August 02, 2012, 06:53:06 AM
How exactly does Romney or any other "rich person" screw anyone?   What exactly is such a problem?
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: dr.chimps on August 02, 2012, 06:54:29 AM
How exactly does Romney or any other "rich person" screw anyone?   What exactly is such a problem?
Really!? You must be trolling.
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Wiggs on August 02, 2012, 06:58:26 AM
How exactly does Romney or any other "rich person" screw anyone?   What exactly is such a problem?

Clearly you have no clue what's going on...
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 07:02:58 AM
OUTRAGEOUS >:(
Thankfully, "Mitt The Twit" isn't going to win anyway. 


Stephanie Cutter breaks down what Mitt Romney's tax plan means for families and how President Obama's plan will cut the deficit while still making the investments we need to grow and keep middle class families strong.
Go to http://www.barackobama.com/TaxCalculator and use the tax calculator to see how these two very different plans will affect you.

Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: wild willie on August 02, 2012, 07:05:41 AM
Most wealthy people give generously to the sick and less fortunate.

That is how charity works.


Benny has a hard on for the rich.....he doesn't want to accept the fact that many wealthy folks in this country do wonderful things for others with their money.

Hey Benny......Will you admit that Geithner had a small problem paying his taxes???
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 07:10:47 AM
Most wealthy people give generously to the sick and less fortunate.

That is how charity works.


Benny has a hard on for the rich.....he doesn't want to accept the fact that many wealthy folks in this country do wonderful things for others with their money.

Hey Benny......Will you admit that Geithner had a small problem paying his taxes???
Charity...Geithner...What the hell does any of this have to do with Romney's tax plan?  ???


Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 02, 2012, 07:30:47 AM
Charity...Geithner...What the hell does any of this have to do with Romney's tax plan?  ???




When is your mulatto messiah going to run on his own record for once? 
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Tito24 on August 02, 2012, 07:32:06 AM
i stretch my asshole for anyone who wants it
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 07:36:44 AM
When is your mulatto messiah going to run on his own record for once? 
When are you going to keep on topic in a thread, keep your racism to yourself, and GET A JOB?  ::)



Romney didn't earn anything.   He waged a dishonest campaign and outspent everyone 20 to  1
Romney is the foil.      Anyone not seeing that is delusional.   Romney s a piece of shit.   
Because they know Romney is a time bomb waiting to blow that will give Obama a second term on a platter.

I fucking hate romney.
 




Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: dr.chimps on August 02, 2012, 07:46:21 AM
i stretch my asshole for anyone who wants it
That's because you're a people person, Mars.
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Tito24 on August 02, 2012, 07:47:23 AM
yes and a bodybuilders bodybuilder bro
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 02, 2012, 07:47:50 AM
When are you going to keep on topic in a thread, keep your racism to yourself, and GET A JOB?  ::)








I hate Snookie, J Wow, Situation, and Ronnie too.  However, i would vote for them over obama in a heartbeat as well.  

Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: dr.chimps on August 02, 2012, 07:48:44 AM
yes and a bodybuilders bodybuilder bro
;D
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Tito24 on August 02, 2012, 07:51:11 AM
;D

here take a look at this

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-F53VyVqZAZs/T6u2vg_JlzI/AAAAAAAAXAk/ElhuyLjkbQY/s1600/big_mila-kunis-13.jpg)
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 02, 2012, 07:56:33 AM
This country is in dire need of a french revolution-style purging..there needs to be at least SOME sense of balance here..
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Tito24 on August 02, 2012, 07:58:04 AM
This country is in dire need of a french revolution-style purging..there needs to be at least SOME sense of balance here..

some purging has to be done
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 02, 2012, 08:22:07 AM
Stalin would have known what to do with wall street.
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: supernick on August 02, 2012, 08:23:43 AM
beat it benny >:( you leach of society
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Tito24 on August 02, 2012, 08:25:28 AM
benny needs to get a good drink the man is not sane anymore haha
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Twaddle on August 02, 2012, 08:29:03 AM
here take a look at this

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-F53VyVqZAZs/T6u2vg_JlzI/AAAAAAAAXAk/ElhuyLjkbQY/s1600/big_mila-kunis-13.jpg)

Thank you for finally putting some sense in this thread.
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Tito24 on August 02, 2012, 08:30:23 AM
Thank you for finally putting some sense in this thread.

dont worry bro
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Migs on August 02, 2012, 09:39:35 AM
You work hard, stretch every penny, but chances are you pay a higher tax rate than him: Mitt Romney made $20 million dollars in 2010, but paid only 14% in taxes—probably less than you.

Now he has a plan that will give millionaires another tax break and raises taxes on middle class families by up to $2000 dollars a year. Mitt Romney's middle class tax increase: he pays less, you pay more.



you probably pay more that Obama.  Look the "rich" pay federal taxes AS WELL AS capital gaines taxes.  Plus they LEGALLY contribute to chariteis etc to reduce their tax liability, JUST LIKE anyone else can.  Democrats, Repubs, Libs, "rich" all do this.  Stop trying to isolate one person and not take into consideration that this option is available to everyone.  They are just smart enough to use the laws available. 
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 09:53:13 AM
you probably pay more that Obama.  Look the "rich" pay federal taxes AS WELL AS capital gaines taxes.  Plus they LEGALLY contribute to chariteis etc to reduce their tax liability, JUST LIKE anyone else can.  Democrats, Repubs, Libs, "rich" all do this.  Stop trying to isolate one person and not take into consideration that this option is available to everyone.  They are just smart enough to use the laws available. 
Do what, exactly?  ???

You are not making any sense. You obviously did not watch the video "Migs", and/or have zero comprehension skills.  ::)


Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Tito24 on August 02, 2012, 09:53:56 AM
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: RJ DRIVER on August 02, 2012, 10:17:49 AM
Putting yourself at the head of a nation in order to give yourself and your buddies a gigantic tax break while screwing a 100 million plus of you fellow citizens and ballooning the deficit you pretend to care about? I'd say that's pretty unique to America...even unique to American presidents prior to Dubya.  ;)
Translation: " I'm poor and it's everyone else's fault."

Remember everyone if you're successful it's not from hard work, it's because the governments hard work. ::)
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 02, 2012, 10:21:18 AM
Do what, exactly?  ???

You are not making any sense. You obviously did not watch the video "Migs", and/or have zero comprehension skills.  ::)




Get used to it.
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 10:27:37 AM
Translation: " I'm poor and it's everyone else's fault."

Remember everyone if you're successful it's not from hard work, it's because the governments hard work. ::)
???
This is why people vote against their own interests. "RJ DRIVER" goes straight past the merits of Romney's tax scheme and instead regurgitates a republican/FOX News talking point. Uhh...what?

dumber than a box of rocks 
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: flipper5470 on August 02, 2012, 10:30:18 AM
Typical...people shoot their mouths off about "the rich" and how they screw everyone, but when yo ask for specifics you get a lot of nothing.   This isn't about the rich...it's about your feelings of inadequacy.  You're the economic equivalent of Planet Fitness.  Mad at the people who have more...mad that you don't have it.  Congratulations, you've reached the level of emotional maturity my daughte rhad...when she was two.

Benny...the economy is dead and Obama killed it.  He's toast....the only reason this race is even close right now is racism on the part of black and hispanic voters who won't consider voting for a white man over a (half) black man.  Pathetic....
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 10:31:53 AM
Get used to it.
Get used to Mitt The Twit taking a walk with his wife?  ???

I suppose he'll have plenty of time for long walks away from spotlight come mid November, if he so chooses. The American people won't give a shit what he's doing by then.
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: bike nut on August 02, 2012, 10:35:59 AM
You work hard, stretch every penny, but chances are you pay a higher tax rate than him: Mitt Romney made $20 million dollars in 2010, but paid only 14% in taxes—probably less than you.

Now he has a plan that will give millionaires another tax break and raises taxes on middle class families by up to $2000 dollars a year. Mitt Romney's middle class tax increase: he pays less, you pay more.


The number of Americans filing new claims for jobless benefits rose last week and manufacturers suffered an unexpected drop in orders in June, suggesting the Obama economy is struggling worse than previously thought - Reuters

Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 11:00:19 AM
The number of Americans filing new claims for jobless benefits rose last week and manufacturers suffered an unexpected drop in orders in June, suggesting the Obama economy is struggling worse than previously thought - Reuters


(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m49ap31tFU1rn5g2vo1_400.jpg)
 ::)
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 02, 2012, 11:02:02 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m49ap31tFU1rn5g2vo1_400.jpg)
 ::)
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: bike nut on August 02, 2012, 11:06:27 AM
Benny B would suck Obama's cock, if the POTUS wasn't impotent.
 ::)

Obama's Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack: "This administration believes food stamps are a stimulus"
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 11:08:50 AM

Whoa, PEA BRAIN's breaking out his collection of charts again! :o

Which one of those graphs shows the impact of Willard's tax plan? I can't tell.

(http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/06/01/change_of_subject_seal.png)
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 02, 2012, 11:10:54 AM
Whoa, PEA BRAIN's breaking out his collection of charts again! :o

Which one of those graphs shows the impact of Willard's tax plan? I can't tell.

(http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/06/01/change_of_subject_seal.png)

Only subject that matters is your messiahs' failed presidency.   
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 11:11:17 AM
Obama's Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack: "This administration believes food stamps are a stimulus"
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m49ap31tFU1rn5g2vo1_400.jpg)


What is Tom Nutsack's opinion of Romney's tax scheme?
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: bike nut on August 02, 2012, 11:18:27 AM
June 2012 brought the perfect encapsulation of the Obama economy: More Americans signed up for disability benefits than got jobs. According to government statistics, 80,000 Americans found work last month, while 85,000 dropped out of the labor force altogether to collect Social Security disability payments.
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 11:18:29 AM
Let's see if I can't help some of you sad losers out. Maybe get ya' back on topic and feeling good about yourselves.  :)


When a candidate's numbers don't add up
By Steve Benen
Thu Aug 2, 2012 9:24 AM EDT

We'll know more about the electoral impact as time progresses, but yesterday's independent analysis of Mitt Romney's tax plan changed the nature of the debate. Researchers at the Brookings Institution and the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center delivered the equivalent of an electoral bombshell: the Republican's proposal cuts taxes on the rich and pays for it by raising taxes on the middle class.

It took less than a day for President Obama's campaign team to turn the revelations into an ad.

The tagline is brutal: "Mitt Romney's middle class tax increase: He pays less, you pay more." According to a campaign source, the spot will air in New Hampshire, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Colorado, Nevada.

Not surprisingly, the Romney campaign is not pleased, and spent of yesterday afternoon attacking the report. Romney spokesman Ryan Williams said Americans should question the results because the Tax Policy Center scholars who conducted the research are "liberal."

There are a few problems with this. First, this isn't an argument. Second, the Romney campaign has previously said the Tax Policy Center is "objective" and "non-partisan." And third, one of the co-authors of the report is a Bush administration veteran.

When the "liberal" talking point failed miserably, the Romney campaign tried a new tack: the Brookings/TPC analysis is flawed because the economists failed to account for "dynamic" scoring. As the argument goes, the Romney plan will produce such extraordinary results, the economy will boom, and the numbers will add up if you account for the magical awesomeness.

But here's the thing: the researchers "bent over backwards to literally give Romney every possible benefit of the doubt" and worked under the dubious assumption that more Republican tax cuts will stimulate the economy. Brookings/TPC ran the numbers while playing by Republican rules and the results were still a disaster.

There's a larger arc to this story, and it's critically important.

When it comes to taxes, Romney is effectively making two points. The first is that he can offer a 20% across-the-board income tax rate cut, while also eliminating the estate tax on millionaires and billionaires, slashing corporate tax rates, and approving a capital-gains tax cut, too.

The second part of the argument sets the parameters of his promise: he can do all of this without raising the deficit or destroying basic American institutions, simply by eliminating various tax deductions and tax expenditures.

Which ones? We don't know; Romney refuses to say. We're just supposed to take his word for it, comfortable with the knowledge that the plan will work.


But yesterday, the charade fell apart. Tax-policy experts whom Romney himself has described as "objective" and "non-partisan" ran the numbers exactly as the Republican candidate asked, using the parameters the Republican candidate created for himself.

And the results confirmed what has long been assumed: either Romney will grow the deficit dramatically or he'll have to raise taxes on 95% of the population in order to give new tax breaks to the rich.

There's no way around this; the arithmetic is stubborn.

Romney's numbers simply don't add up. Period. Full Stop.
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 02, 2012, 11:19:37 AM
Whoa, PEA BRAIN's breaking out his collection of charts again! :o

Which one of those graphs shows the impact of Willard's tax plan? I can't tell.

(http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/06/01/change_of_subject_seal.png)

This coming from Mr. Cut and Paste himself. What are the chances of you ever arguing against the facts? or do you even understand what you post and what an ass it makes you look like?
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: bike nut on August 02, 2012, 11:20:41 AM
"The federal government has so many welfare programs that a top official of the Government Accountability Office couldn’t even provide a fixed number to a House oversight committee, nor would Patricia Dalton “hazard a guess” as to what percentage of these programs are accomplishing the purposes for which they were created. What is not in doubt is the increase in funding President Obama has requested for welfare — 42 percent over 2010 levels."
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 02, 2012, 11:21:46 AM
Let's see if I can't help some of you sad losers out. Maybe get ya' back on topic and feeling good about yourselves.  :)


When a candidate's numbers don't add up
By Steve Benen
Thu Aug 2, 2012 9:24 AM EDT

We'll know more about the electoral impact as time progresses, but yesterday's independent analysis of Mitt Romney's tax plan changed the nature of the debate. Researchers at the Brookings Institution and the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center delivered the equivalent of an electoral bombshell: the Republican's proposal cuts taxes on the rich and pays for it by raising taxes on the middle class.

It took less than a day for President Obama's campaign team to turn the revelations into an ad.

The tagline is brutal: "Mitt Romney's middle class tax increase: He pays less, you pay more." According to a campaign source, the spot will air in New Hampshire, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Colorado, Nevada.

Not surprisingly, the Romney campaign is not pleased, and spent of yesterday afternoon attacking the report. Romney spokesman Ryan Williams said Americans should question the results because the Tax Policy Center scholars who conducted the research are "liberal."

There are a few problems with this. First, this isn't an argument. Second, the Romney campaign has previously said the Tax Policy Center is "objective" and "non-partisan." And third, one of the co-authors of the report is a Bush administration veteran.

When the "liberal" talking point failed miserably, the Romney campaign tried a new tack: the Brookings/TPC analysis is flawed because the economists failed to account for "dynamic" scoring. As the argument goes, the Romney plan will produce such extraordinary results, the economy will boom, and the numbers will add up if you account for the magical awesomeness.

But here's the thing: the researchers "bent over backwards to literally give Romney every possible benefit of the doubt" and worked under the dubious assumption that more Republican tax cuts will stimulate the economy. Brookings/TPC ran the numbers while playing by Republican rules and the results were still a disaster.

There's a larger arc to this story, and it's critically important.

When it comes to taxes, Romney is effectively making two points. The first is that he can offer a 20% across-the-board income tax rate cut, while also eliminating the estate tax on millionaires and billionaires, slashing corporate tax rates, and approving a capital-gains tax cut, too.

The second part of the argument sets the parameters of his promise: he can do all of this without raising the deficit or destroying basic American institutions, simply by eliminating various tax deductions and tax expenditures.

Which ones? We don't know; Romney refuses to say. We're just supposed to take his word for it, comfortable with the knowledge that the plan will work.


But yesterday, the charade fell apart. Tax-policy experts whom Romney himself has described as "objective" and "non-partisan" ran the numbers exactly as the Republican candidate asked, using the parameters the Republican candidate created for himself.

And the results confirmed what has long been assumed: either Romney will grow the deficit dramatically or he'll have to raise taxes on 95% of the population in order to give new tax breaks to the rich.

There's no way around this; the arithmetic is stubborn.

Romney's numbers simply don't add up. Period. Full Stop.


Post the link and I'm sure you'll see the source of your spin
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 11:22:45 AM
"The federal government has so many welfare programs that a top official of the Government Accountability Office couldn’t even provide a fixed number to a House oversight committee, nor would Patricia Dalton “hazard a guess” as to what percentage of these programs are accomplishing the purposes for which they were created. What is not in doubt is the increase in funding President Obama has requested for welfare — 42 percent over 2010 levels."
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m49ap31tFU1rn5g2vo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: bike nut on August 02, 2012, 11:23:28 AM
"From the beginning of the implementation of the Obama Recovery Plan, more Americans have joined the ranks of the disabled (3.1 million) than have found jobs (2.6 million). Record numbers have also filed for unemployment insurance, welfare benefits, and food stamps (which one in seven Americans now receive)."
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 02, 2012, 11:24:03 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m49ap31tFU1rn5g2vo1_400.jpg)

You're confusing fact with distraction dummy.
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 02, 2012, 11:26:03 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 02, 2012, 11:48:30 AM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443687504577564761715307088.html
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 11:52:18 AM
:)
:)

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Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 12:26:35 PM
 ;)
(http://www.winningprogressive.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/romney-obama-tax-cuts-300x300.jpg)
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 02, 2012, 12:29:20 PM
;)
(http://www.winningprogressive.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/romney-obama-tax-cuts-300x300.jpg)
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 12:33:32 PM

:P
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=410593.0;attach=453555;image)
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: flipper5470 on August 02, 2012, 12:36:10 PM
Why didn't Obama push through a massive tax increase when he took office and had a filibster proof Senate and ownership of the house?   Why did he say in 2010 that raising taxes on anyone would be bad for the economy?  The economy certainly isn't any better now than it was then.  

Only an idiot (hi, Benny) would fall for this nonsense.  
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 12:38:31 PM
Why didn't Obama push through a massive tax increase when he took office and had a filibster proof Senate and ownership of the house?   Why did he say in 2010 that raising taxes on anyone would be bad for the economy?  The economy certainly isn't any better now than it was then.  

Only an idiot (hi, Benny) would fall for this nonsense.  
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=417848.0;attach=460353;image)

 :-\
(http://cdn.theatlanticwire.com/img/upload/2012/01/17/newsweek_cover/large.jpg)
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 12:39:56 PM
 :(

As polls show most Americans support tax increases for the wealthy, how did Republicans hope to sell their plan of more tax cuts for the rich and while raising taxes for working families? It helps if, like House Majority Whip Eric Cantor (R-VA), you argue that it’s unfair for half of Americans to pay no income taxes. Never mind the fact that the working poor pay state sales taxes and other taxes and fees, or that the federal tax code is set up to exclude the working poor with programs like the Earned Income Tax Credit … a program that was created in the 1970s to subsidize low-income jobs.

It’s still unfair for those “lucky duckies” to skate by without paying taxes. Republicans are trying to paint the working poor as the new welfare queens … driving up the debt by soaking up entitlement programs while paying no taxes, protected by a president who wants to undermine America because his father was Kenyan. You don’t need canine hearing to translate that Republicans hope to sell tax increases for the working poor by telling white working class voters those tax increases will stop Those People from busting the budget … and sell tax cuts for the rich by talking about “job creators.”

When it comes to tax cuts, Republicans always want more, more, more … but only for some.
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 02, 2012, 12:43:36 PM
:(

As polls show most Americans support tax increases for the wealthy, how did Republicans hope to sell their plan of more tax cuts for the rich and while raising taxes for working families? It helps if, like House Majority Whip Eric Cantor (R-VA), you argue that it’s unfair for half of Americans to pay no income taxes. Never mind the fact that the working poor pay state sales taxes and other taxes and fees, or that the federal tax code is set up to exclude the working poor with programs like the Earned Income Tax Credit … a program that was created in the 1970s to subsidize low-income jobs.

It’s still unfair for those “lucky duckies” to skate by without paying taxes. Republicans are trying to paint the working poor as the new welfare queens … driving up the debt by soaking up entitlement programs while paying no taxes, protected by a president who wants to undermine America because his father was Kenyan. You don’t need canine hearing to translate that Republicans hope to sell tax increases for the working poor by telling white working class voters those tax increases will stop Those People from busting the budget … and sell tax cuts for the rich by talking about “job creators.”

When it comes to tax cuts, Republicans always want more, more, more … but only for some.


What are you going to do when GayBama gets sent packing? 

Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 12:46:12 PM
What are you going to do when GayBama gets sent packing? 


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Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: wild willie on August 02, 2012, 12:48:55 PM
Charity...Geithner...What the hell does any of this have to do with Romney's tax plan?  ???



Geithner doesn't pay taxes....he is your main man....and Obama's main man.....at least Romney makes his money...pays his taxes and gives to charity.....you bitch about the wealthy getting tax breaks through Romney's tax plan.....At least Romney meets his tax obligations.....Geithner doesn't.....plain and simple....cut and dry. Romney will always be a son of a bitch in your eyes.....because you are this bleeding heart liberal.
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 12:56:36 PM
Geithner doesn't pay taxes....he is your main man....and Obama's main man.....at least Romney makes his money...pays his taxes and gives to charity.....you bitch about the wealthy getting tax breaks through Romney's tax plan.....At least Romney meets his tax obligations.....Geithner doesn't.....plain and simple....cut and dry. Romney will always be a son of a bitch in your eyes.....because you are this bleeding heart liberal.
How do you know this "wild willie"?  ??? You seem to have information Willard refuses to share with the rest of America.


I don't think Romney is a "son of a bitch"...more like a phony and a clown.
(http://malialitman.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/mitt-romney-etch-a-sketch.jpg)
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 02, 2012, 12:58:29 PM
How do you know this "wild willie"?  ??? You seem to have information Willard refuses to share with the rest of America.


I don't think Romney is a "son of a bitch"...more like a phony and a clown.
(http://malialitman.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/mitt-romney-etch-a-sketch.jpg)

Benny - care to explain this? 
Title: Re: Stretch
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 02, 2012, 01:03:26 PM
Everything he did paying his taxes was legal unlike Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner who tried to get away with paying nothing. Another Obama appointment.

They have absoulutely nothing on Mitt. He revealed everything he had to under the law. Since he won't reveal more the democrats say he's hiding something. I would like to see Obama's tax return the day he brought a 4 million dollar house right out of law school. You know what? He won't reveal it.

I will give you this. Obama will win again and it's shows how many morons and goverment dependant people there are. I'm not a Mitt fan but I would vote for anyone but Obama.
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Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 01:12:16 PM
Everything he did paying his taxes was legal unlike Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner who tried to get away with paying nothing. Another Obama appointment.
You are pulling crap out of your ass. You know nothing about what Willard has or has not paid in taxes.  ::)

I suppose you too believe the middle class should pay more taxes, while millionaires and billionaires have their taxes lowered. That IS the original topic of this thread ya' know.

I will give you this. Obama will win again...
'nuff said  ;)
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Post by: King Shizzo on August 02, 2012, 01:33:33 PM
Don't atheletes get taxed out the ass?  Isn't it almost 50%?
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Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 01:38:04 PM
Don't atheletes get taxed out the ass?  Isn't it almost 50%?
dunno

What do you think of Willard's proposed deficit-exploding tax scheme?
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Post by: oldtimer1 on August 02, 2012, 01:40:06 PM
Obama  is trying to create class hate by claiming the rich don't pay enough taxes. He has no problem with 40k a plate dinners for fund raising though. Simpletons think if the rich were made to pay more this countries problems would go away. Let me tell you there aren't enough to make a dent in tax revenue. I do say tax loop holes should be taken away but the tax rate on those making 200K plus is high enough. Do you know how small of a percent of people across the country are making over 150K? It's really small.

There should be a flat tax rate for everyone with no deductions but people are just to stupid to figure it out. If everyone paid a flat 15% tax on what they made the amount of taxes the government got would go through the roof. I don't care if you make 10K or 10 million it should be the same. With a flat tax the amount paid to the government would go down for the overwhelming amount of tax payers.
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Post by: King Shizzo on August 02, 2012, 01:44:03 PM
dunno

What do you think of Willard's proposed deficit-exploding tax scheme?
I have no clue what you are talking about  :D
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Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 02:06:39 PM
Obama  is trying to create class hate by claiming the rich don't pay enough taxes. He has no problem with 40k a plate dinners for fund raising though. Simpletons think if the rich were made to pay more this countries problems would go away. Let me tell you there aren't enough to make a dent in tax revenue. I do say tax loop holes should be taken away but the tax rate on those making 200K plus is high enough. Do you know how small of a percent of people across the country are making over 150K? It's really small.
What does any of this drivel have to do with Willard's tax proposal? As you stated, the percentage of people making over $150k is rather small as it relates to the total population.

So, "oldtimer", do you feel that, oh...200+ million Americans should pay MORE taxes so that those fortunate few at the top (myself included) should pay LESS??? Seriously? You want to help pay for my next vacation (Thanks! :) I'm thinking Cape Verde), or Romney's next car elevator in one of his several mansions, with an increase in your taxes???


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There should be a flat tax rate for everyone with no deductions but people are just to stupid to figure it out. If everyone paid a flat 15% tax on what they made the amount of taxes the government got would go through the roof. I don't care if you make 10K or 10 million it should be the same. With a flat tax the amount paid to the government would go down for the overwhelming amount of tax payers.
A flat rate hammers the poor, smacks around the middle class, and is a veritable windfall for the wealthy. There is a reason why Steve Forbes never gains any traction with that idea.


“There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”
― Warren Buffett
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Post by: Soul Crusher on August 02, 2012, 02:08:05 PM
Why isnt your Gaybama Messiah running on his record? 

What does any of this drivel have to do with Willard's tax proposal? As you stated, the percentage of people making over $150k is rather small as it relates to the total population.

So, "oldtimer", do you feel that, oh...200+ million Americans should pay MORE taxes so that those fortunate few at the top (myself included) should pay LESS??? Seriously? You want to help pay for my next vacation (Thanks! :) I'm thinking Cape Verde), or Romney's next car elevator in one of his several mansions, with an increase in your taxes???

A flat rate hammers the poor, smacks around the middle class, and is a veritable windfall for the wealthy. There is a reason why Steve Forbes never gains any traction with that idea.


“There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”
― Warren Buffett

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Post by: bike nut on August 02, 2012, 02:10:08 PM
Republicans are for "the rich".

Democrats are for "the poor".

Both parties work as hard as they can to create more of their "voters".

(Think about it a little ya fackin' morons)
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Post by: wild willie on August 02, 2012, 02:13:33 PM
Republicans are for "the rich".

Democrats are for "the poor".

Both parties work as hard as they can to create more of their "voters".

(Think about it a little ya fackin' morons)

No sir.....George Soros.....Warren Buffett.....Peter Lewis......and Bill Gates are all big Democrats.....and tremendously wealthy. Some of the biggest Republicans I know.....are not very wealthy......My 2 cents.
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Post by: Benny B on August 02, 2012, 02:37:08 PM
Why isnt your Gaybama Messiah running on his record? 

PEA BRAIN...heavy on insults, light on substance.  ::)
(http://8ball-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/catalog/product/cache/1/image/200x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/_/a_team_-_PEA_BRAIN_prp_mens_cu.jpg)

Why isn't the man you are voting for PEA BRAIN, the man you call a "fucking piece of shit that will serve Obama a second term on a platter" running on HIS record? You'd never know Romney was the governor of Massachusetts or worked for Bain for twenty-five years (1977-2002) based on his stump speeches. ;) What are his goals and plans to do anything but sit in the Oval Office and rubber-stamp GOP legislation coming up from Congress?


Why are you running away from the topic of this thread? You have 500 ongoing threads you've created on the politics board to obfuscate with your bullshit and evasive tactics.  ::)
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Post by: flipper5470 on August 02, 2012, 04:23:22 PM
Benny...Obama's performance is sad...Burneika by the pool sad.
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Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 02, 2012, 11:33:50 PM
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Post by: King Shizzo on August 03, 2012, 02:38:27 PM
I don't see why you guys get so upset about politics.  They are all liars.  They will all say what you want to hear to get elected. None have any real power to get things done.  They all follow an agenda not their own.
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Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 03, 2012, 03:23:01 PM
Millionaires/Billionaires who didn't make their money scamming people and who don't live in fear don't give a fuck about what they pay in taxes. They know money isn't an object and can be created anytime, anywhere. Millionaires complaining about paying taxes most likely live in some kind of fear and secretly are afraid as being outed as a scammer or not worthy of the money they make. 
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Post by: flipper5470 on August 03, 2012, 03:41:47 PM
I love how they call Buffet's assistant his "secretary"....makes her sound like a common working gal.  Executive assistants at her level make serious coin.  If she makes less than a 150k I'd be stunned.
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Post by: flipper5470 on August 03, 2012, 03:59:07 PM
Oh...and if Buffet is so concerned about taxes, he should STFU and pay his.  He owes something like $1 billion in back taxes that he's been contesting for years.  Hypocritical old bastard....
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Post by: arce1988 on August 04, 2012, 12:24:55 AM
  thought this was about bob