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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: OneManGang on August 07, 2012, 01:20:43 AM
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Finally, the time is here. Olympic weightlifting's +105kg category for men. The favorite is this huge Iranian, Behdad Salimi. The most impressive with this guy is his height. He is 6'6, which is a huge disadvantage.
Here is is 472lbs world record snatch:
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793lbs squat in training
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His trainer doing 2 x 617lbs front squat (easy)
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how did the arabs get so strong???
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He is not Arab, he is A.ryan, HTH.
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how did the arabs get so strong???
He lacks great arab genetics
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farsi I know ... but how did they get so strong? Seems like ppl in that area are putting us to shame.
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Persians are strong, like our Xerxes......btw where is he ?
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farsi I know ... but how did they get so strong? Seems like ppl in that area are putting us to shame.
...but they don't look strong.
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Fuck those camel fuckers
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how did the arabs get so strong???
Off season testing is non-existent.
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Fuck those camel fuckers
lol
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Off season testing is non-existent.
figures :/
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If Salimi doesn't bring his A game, look for this fella to be a strong challenge -
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Albegov.
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But look at Patrick Mendes. Used everything he wanted to for years and got something like 170+210 lifts on stage with very minimal testing. Not only do you need drugs and training, but you need a huge frame with decent height, 6'2 is ideal. Mendes and crew realised that and now Mendes will be a 105 or even a 94 lifter.
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Great Arab genetics will likely prevail here.
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Johnnie Jackson is the world's strongest bodybuilder (, though Ronnie outperformed him in every lift).
That's all I need to know 8)
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Why aren't WSM competitiors like Savickas taking part?
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Why aren't WSM competitiors like Savickas taking part?
They're strong, but the form isn't there. Most would get called on all types of little rules that don't count in Strongman, but count heavily in Olympic Lifting.
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Does he enjoy the Salimi?
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214kg was his record. Didn't the chinese bitch lift 170kg.
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nubain
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214kg was his record. Didn't the chinese bitch lift 170kg.
Zhou went S - #146 kgs. C/J - #187 kgs.
Kashirina, the much lighter Russian girl went S - #151 kgs. C/J - 181kgs.
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The super heavys snatch will be arond 207 at best. Too much drug testing to go beter than that.
C&J will not go above 260kg.
Looking fwd to it.
If 100% un-drug tested, we could get to 230 snatch, and 275 C&J.
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Here are some weightlifting fails as an appetizer. Please take note of the Getbig member at 1:42
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Here are some weightlifting fails as an appetizer. Please take note of the Getbig member at 1:42
there's no snapping elbows in there is there?
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Why aren't WSM competitiors like Savickas taking part?
come on man, they don't have so harsh doping control in strongman competition (even if they say so). It's show in the first place.
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Looking forward to this
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Looking forward to this
Best weightlifting video ever, with epic music. Includes the greates lift of all time, Taranenko's 586lbs C&J
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Best weightlifting video ever, with epic music. Includes the greates lift of all time, Taranenko's 586lbs C&J
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Very nice vid, thanks, very bad music though. >:(
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Big Dan Hill would probably sweep these proceedings if he trained for strength.
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haaaa Dschinghis Khan ;D
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it's on !!!!!!!!!
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Good show so far, Russia, Iran, Iran. Russia in lead with 1kg better in snatch, #208 kgs to #207 kgs.
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oooh, that russian lift.. so close. if he got that it'd made thingsd interesting indeed..
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Iran - Gold , Silver. Russia - Bronze.
No records broken, but strong lifting.
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oooh, that russian lift.. so close. if he got that it'd made thingsd interesting indeed..
Ha.Just about to post that right now.Shame....
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Iranian power.
Time to abandon Izlam and start rightfully ruling the middle east.
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What happened with Matthias Steiner the 2008 Gold Medallist?
Think he dropped the bar on his neck during the snatch...I missed that.
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What happened with Matthias Steiner the 2008 Gold Medallist?
Think he dropped the bar on his neck during the snatch...I missed that.
Second Snatch attempt ( #196 ) he lost it behind, it smacked him on the neck and pin him to the platform for a few seconds. He walked it of and his bulk helped break the fall, but it was a scary accident. He decided to withdraw after that.
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1130833.1344366432!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/weightweb8s-1-web.jpg).
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Ta. Considering the weight,Mathias took it well. :)
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Why aren't WSM competitiors like Savickas taking part?
Because strongman is a very different sport than weightlifting.
I mean, if world-class Olympic lifters jumped into strongman they'd be fucked, as well.
The best of the best become the best because they practice something very specific for a great many years.
Why do I need to write this?
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Because strongman is a very different sport than weightlifting.
I mean, if world-class Olympic lifters jumped into strongman they'd be fucked, as well.
The best of the best become the best because they practice something very specific for a great many years.
Why do I need to write this?
These are the elite strength athletes of the world in the Olympics. They are incredibly fast and powerful. You're living in a fantasy world praising the athletes of the TV show the World's Strongest Man. Powerlifting is a joke today with the suits and the super shallow squats.
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Just to give you people some perspective. Misha Koklyaev was 3rd in the World's Strongest Man a few years ago. He hasn't even been able to qualify for the olympics in weightlifting! Now there might have been some politics that have put him in disadvantage, but many believe that he just hasn't been consistant enough in his lifting for him to get on the olympic platform.
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Ta. Considering the weight,Mathias took it well. :)
Wow rolled right forward off his neck. He walked it off pretty good but I bet he's stiff as fuck and bruised up today
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Just to give you people some perspective. Misha Koklyaev was 3rd in the World's Strongest Man a few years ago. He hasn't even been able to qualify for the olympics in weightlifting! Now there might have been some politics that have put him in disadvantage, but many believe that he just hasn't been consistant enough in his lifting for him to get on the olympic platform.
Yeah, Rigert was interviewed on this, he said the main reason was a) Inconsistance in his lifting and b) they were scared of him failing the drug tests and didn't want to risk letting him in. According to Rigert, he didn't show up for one, and it was explained to him that he had to be there when called, and when he didn't hear back, they dropped him.
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Rigert is full of shit. Just saying that because he's never trained Mikhail.
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Well Mikhail may have the last laugh, with all the pull outs and mediocre performance of many of the lifters there, I don't think Rigert will be back as a main coach.
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These are the elite strength athletes of the world in the Olympics. They are incredibly fast and powerful. You're living in a fantasy world praising the athletes of the TV show the World's Strongest Man. Powerlifting is a joke today with the suits and the super shallow squats.
Olympic weightlifters are NOT the premier STRENGTH athletes of this world. The elite POWER athletes, yes.
Strongman is not a TV show. It's a sport that sometimes gets featured on television. I mean, is weightlifting a TV show?
Now, let me attempt to clarify something for you. Strongman is not powerlifting, any more than powerlifting is weightlifting.
One more thing. You must be unaware that there are federations that do not allow support gear (just a belt ... like Olympic lifters, actually!) and adhere to very strict standards of squatting depth, etc.
When you are SO very ignorant about a subject, it's best to keep quiet.
Hope this helps you not to embarrass yourself in future discussions.
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Finally, the time is here. Olympic weightlifting's +105kg category for men. The favorite is this huge Iranian, Behdad Salimi. The most impressive with this guy is his height. He is 6'6, which is a huge disadvantage.
Here is is 472lbs world record snatch:
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793lbs squat in training
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His trainer doing 2 x 617lbs front squat (easy)
that's one powerful salami.... ;D
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Yeah, Rigert was interviewed on this, he said the main reason was a) Inconsistance in his lifting and b) they were scared of him failing the drug tests and didn't want to risk letting him in. According to Rigert, he didn't show up for one, and it was explained to him that he had to be there when called, and when he didn't hear back, they dropped him.
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His latest lifts - 200/248 kgs.
Koklyaev says that it is all politics.
But he looks like he is swimming in growth hormone for years, i think doping concerns not that groundless.
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Thanks, I hadn't seen that before.
:).
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there's no snapping elbows in there is there?
You can't have a proper fail video without flying elbow parts.
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His latest lifts - 200/248 kgs.
Koklyaev says that it is all politics.
But he looks like he is swimming in growth hormone for years, i think doping concerns not that groundless.
And he would have to have gym lifts of about 215+265 to have a tiny chance for 200+250 on platform. He has never lifted those kinds of numbers so the coaches being sceptical about his performance is acceptable. When your swimming in drugs (like you said), you better fucking deliver!
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These are the elite strength athletes of the world in the Olympics. They are incredibly fast and powerful. You're living in a fantasy world praising the athletes of the TV show the World's Strongest Man. Powerlifting is a joke today with the suits and the super shallow squats.
#1 Have you ever trained with strongman implements? I'm guessing no, it's no joke nor is it to be scoffed at.
#2 Plenty of powerlifting orgs have gone "raw", belt and MAYBE knee/wrist wraps, some belt only.
#3 You must be living in a delusional world were doing one lift good = "elite strength athletes of the world".
I like you oldtimer, but you're way off the mark here.
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#1 Have you ever trained with strongman implements? I'm guessing no, it's no joke nor is it to be scoffed at.
#2 Plenty of powerlifting orgs have gone "raw", belt and MAYBE knee/wrist wraps, some belt only.
#3 You must be living in a delusional world were doing one lift good = "elite strength athletes of the world".
I like you oldtimer, but you're way off the mark here.
No shit. His response to mine puts him in a very bad light concerning his opinions on matters of strength and power sports. He sounds like any typical doughboy off the street who doesn't even know the difference between the different disciplines.
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You can't define strongman. It's anything any one of us wants it to be. It's typically been more cardio than anything else.
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No shit. His response to mine puts him in a very bad light concerning his opinions on matters of strength and power sports. He sounds like any typical doughboy off the street who doesn't even know the difference between the different disciplines.
I believe he is "old school" and not very current with the different styles of lifting weights. I think he'll reexamine his opinion and come forth with a different outlook. ;)
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You can't define strongman. It's anything any one of us wants it to be. It's typically been more cardio than anything else.
Wrong.
Strongman is a sport. We're not talking about strong men or a strong man, but strongman. Just like we're not talking about weight lifting, but rather, weightlifting, the sport.
It is rather easy to define strongman the sport. As easy as defining bodybuilding the sport (if you see it as such), and not weight/resistance training, the physical activity. One builds his body with exercises that encompass attributes of weight lifting, but few actually indulge in the sport of weightlifting.
And to figure strongman is primarily cardio is utter ignorance. It requires more than do the other "strength disciplines", yes, but extreme strength and power are maximally challenged.
Is Getbig home to an exceptionally large group of non-lifters and folks without an even rudimentary knowledge of resistance training and its varying branches of discipline? Sure seems like it a lot of the time.
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Is Getbig home to an exceptionally large group of non-lifters and folks without an even rudimentary knowledge of resistance training and its varying branches of discipline? Sure seems like it a lot of the time.
You must be new here. ;D
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You must be new here. ;D
Not really. But it never ceases to amaze how generally ignorant so many here are when it comes to weight training, in general.
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Not really. But it never ceases to amaze how generally ignorant so many here are when it comes to weight training, in general.
For serious weight lifting discussion head to the training board, we got a good group of guys there. Also the powerlifting/strongman board. They aren't super active but the discussions are enlightening and the posters serious about lifting.
Other than that, you'll get fuck all for any kind of weightlifting/training knowledge on the G&Schmoe. ;D
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Wrong.
Strongman is a sport. We're not talking about strong men or a strong man, but strongman. Just like we're not talking about weight lifting, but rather, weightlifting, the sport.
It is rather easy to define strongman the sport. As easy as defining bodybuilding the sport (if you see it as such), and not weight/resistance training, the physical activity. One builds his body with exercises that encompass attributes of weight lifting, but few actually indulge in the sport of weightlifting.
And to figure strongman is primarily cardio is utter ignorance. It requires more than do the other "strength disciplines", yes, but extreme strength and power are maximally challenged.
Is Getbig home to an exceptionally large group of non-lifters and folks without an even rudimentary knowledge of resistance training and its varying branches of discipline? Sure seems like it a lot of the time.
Ok, define it. What must happen in a strongman competition for it to be legit?
You see, you can nitpick about any sport. Weightlifters aren't strong in the elite sense, they are just powerful. Strongmen aren't strong in the elite sense, they are just fit. Powerlifters aren't strong in the elite sense, they are just good at moving weights in dynamic fashion and only in a couple of disciplines that are the 3 lifts. We all know real strength is the peak static strength, lasting from a nanosecond to a microsecond. Otherwise it's muscle endurance. ::)
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Ok, define it. What must happen in a strongman competition for it to be legit?
Strongmen aren't strong in the elite sense, they are just fit.
WTF ??? LOL!
What do you mean "legit"?
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WTF ??? LOL!
What do you mean "legit"?
Powerlifting is only legitimate if the 3 lifts take place, with 3 attempts in each. Weightlifting, 2 lifts, 3 attempts each. What about strongman? Define it.
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Powerlifting is only legitimate if the 3 lifts take place, with 3 attempts in each. Weightlifting, 2 lifts, 3 attempts each. What about strongman? Define it.
Strongman is comprised of several different events and lifts, some of them timed, some of them max effort lifts. Max effort lifts are the only lifts were people will get 3 attempts to outlift other competitors. Other than max efforts, events will be times with all contestants using the same weight, fastest time wins.
Pretty simple.
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Ok, define it. What must happen in a strongman competition for it to be legit?
You see, you can nitpick about any sport. Weightlifters aren't strong in the elite sense, they are just powerful. Strongmen aren't strong in the elite sense, they are just fit. Powerlifters aren't strong in the elite sense, they are just good at moving weights in dynamic fashion and only in a couple of disciplines that are the 3 lifts. We all know real strength is the peak static strength, lasting from a nanosecond to a microsecond. Otherwise it's muscle endurance. ::)
I haven't the time nor inclination to debate with you when it's clear you're not of similar knowledge ... or reason.
Plus, as is, all my time would ultimately be spent correcting and educating.
Your above response is ridiculous.
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There have been plenty of strongman competitions that have had no max effort lifts.
And that is still a wide definition. Pretty much that competitors compete against each other overcoming some kind of resistance, right?
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Pretty much that competitors compete against each other overcoming some kind of resistance, right?
That could be any lifting competition. LOL
Not going to argue about competitions with no max effort lifts, most every one I have ever seen has one.
Even without a max effort lift, it's still pretty well defined.
Let me try a simpler explaination that may be easier for you to understand: Competitors must each lift a set weight with the object to be to lift said weight more times or for greater distance than the other competitors in a set amount of time.
Pretty simple huh? :)
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Too much muscular endurance involved in strongman events. Carrying 2 kegs of beer for 2 minutes, is not strength but muscular endurance.
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Because strongman is a very different sport than weightlifting.
I mean, if world-class Olympic lifters jumped into strongman they'd be fucked, as well.
The best of the best become the best because they practice something very specific for a great many years.
Why do I need to write this?
Do it like your are adressing kindergarden
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Too much muscular endurance involved in strongman events. Carrying 2 kegs of beer for 2 minutes, is not strength but muscular endurance.
Difference is most people don't have the strength to lift one keg, let alone carry two. ;)
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Strongman is
Strength
Power
Endurance
The carry, pull and drag events, most people wouldn't be able to pick up the carry object, and begin event, nevermind complete course in fastest time
First of all the competitors are huge super strong fuckers
Then they are able to utilize that strength in short bursts of power
Along with endurance to finish event quicker/longer than others
Can't believe its actually being debated
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If you combined strongman, powerlifting, & weightlifting events, the weightlifters would win that competition.
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If you combined strongman, powerlifting, & weightlifting events, the weightlifters would win that competition.
lol
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Any man who can pull along a large US airforce plane as easily as this is a Strongman
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Difference is most people don't have the strength to lift one keg, let alone carry two. ;)
Why carry when you should be drinking the 2 kegs...
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Finally, the time is here. Olympic weightlifting's +105kg category for men. The favorite is this huge Iranian, Behdad Salimi. The most impressive with this guy is his height. He is 6'6, which is a huge disadvantage.
793lbs squat in training
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Ronnies stronger ;D