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A new ad from a super PAC supporting President Obama ties former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney to a family’s loss of health insurance and a woman’s subsequent death from cancer.
It’s the fourth hard-hitting ad from Priorities USA Action that focuses on former workers at companies closed by Romney’s former private equity firm, Bain Capital.
“I don’t think Mitt Romney understands what he’s done to people’s lives by closing the plant,” said Joe Soptic, a former employee at GST Steel in Kansas City, in the ad. He says he lost his health care, and then his wife became ill.
“I don’t know how long she was sick, and I think maybe she didn’t say anything because she knew that we couldn’t afford the insurance,” Soptic adds. When she finally went to the hospital they found out that it was stage-four cancer, he says. She died soon after.
Soptic concludes, “I do not think Mitt Romney realizes what he’s done to anyone, and furthermore I do not think Mitt Romney is concerned.”
The Republican candidate left Bain before GST Steel went bankrupt; Obama’s team has argued that the story is fair because Romney was at Bain when the initial investment was made.
Romney spokesman Ryan Williams called the ad one of many “discredited and dishonest attacks” meant to “conceal the administration’s deplorable economic record.”
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LMFAO ! ! ! ! ! !
Are you fucking kidding me?
Romney was not there for 4 years at that point!
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A new ad from a super PAC supporting President Obama ties former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney to a family’s loss of health insurance and a woman’s subsequent death from cancer.
It’s the fourth hard-hitting ad from Priorities USA Action that focuses on former workers at companies closed by Romney’s former private equity firm, Bain Capital.
“I don’t think Mitt Romney understands what he’s done to people’s lives by closing the plant,” said Joe Soptic, a former employee at GST Steel in Kansas City, in the ad. He says he lost his health care, and then his wife became ill.
“I don’t know how long she was sick, and I think maybe she didn’t say anything because she knew that we couldn’t afford the insurance,” Soptic adds. When she finally went to the hospital they found out that it was stage-four cancer, he says. She died soon after.
Soptic concludes, “I do not think Mitt Romney realizes what he’s done to anyone, and furthermore I do not think Mitt Romney is concerned.”
The Republican candidate left Bain before GST Steel went bankrupt; Obama’s team has argued that the story is fair because Romney was at Bain when the initial investment was made.
Romney spokesman Ryan Williams called the ad one of many “discredited and dishonest attacks” meant to “conceal the administration’s deplorable economic record.”
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LMFAO ! ! ! ! ! !
Are you fucking kidding me?
Romney was not there for 4 years at that point!
bain took over in 1993, your worse than fox news
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bain took over in 1993, your worse than fox news
It was shut down 4 years after Romney left was gone and a current obama bundler was at the helm.
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GST Steel: a “Profitable Failure” where “Every promise they made was broken.”
Romney and Bain made millions from a steel plant that went bankrupt after Bain dramatically increased the company’s debt. Workers lost their jobs and promised health and retirement benefits. Because Bain underfunded the company’s pension fund, a federal agency was needed for a $44 million bail out.
In 1993, Romney’s Bain Capital purchased a steel company and renamed it GS Technologies. To gain control of the company, Bain put up $8 million and quickly had the company take on new debt in order to distribute dividends back to Bain and cover new expenses – helping Bain earn back part of its initial investment.
In 1995, Romney’s Bain had GS acquire another firm, adding over a hundred million in new debt. By then, Bain had forced the company to hold $378 million in debt, which was ten times the annual income of the company and “the company was not on a sustainable course.”
At the same time, Romney’s firm was ordering changes that undermined safety and productivity at the company and installing people who knew little about the steel industry. A worker remarked, “When Romney and Bain came in, it was painfully obvious that they didn’t have a clue about anything to do with a steel mill.”
From 1997 to 1999, losses at the company increased by 300% and it was clear the company could not survive.
By the time the company legally filed for bankruptcy, Romney and his firm had made at least $9 million in profit. Former company officials said the mill, which had been operating since 1888, could have dealt better with market fluctuations if Bain had not forced the company to take on unsustainable debt. A finance professor remarked that using debt to pay large dividends to Bain left the company less prepared for a downturn.
Because Romney’s firm had forced the company to take on hundreds of millions in debt to pay themselves and finance acquisitions, ultimately leading it towards bankruptcy, “GS said it was shedding the guarantees it had promised its workers in the event of a plant closure - the severance pay, health insurance, life insurance and pension supplements that had been negotiated during the 1997 strike.”
Additionally, “records show that the mill's Bain-backed management was confronted several times about the fund's shortfall, which, in the end, required an infusion of funds from the federal Pension Benefits Guarantee Corp.” A federal government agency had to spend $44 million to bail out the pension plan that had been underfunded by Bain.
Reuters called GS one of Bain’s “profitable failures” and a former worker who saw the demise of the plant firsthand said, “Every promise they made was broken. Every promise. Except the fact that they did make a lot of money off of it. They kept that one.”
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GST Steel: a “Profitable Failure” where “Every promise they made was broken.”
Romney and Bain made millions from a steel plant that went bankrupt after Bain dramatically increased the company’s debt. Workers lost their jobs and promised health and retirement benefits. Because Bain underfunded the company’s pension fund, a federal agency was needed for a $44 million bail out.
In 1993, Romney’s Bain Capital purchased a steel company and renamed it GS Technologies. To gain control of the company, Bain put up $8 million and quickly had the company take on new debt in order to distribute dividends back to Bain and cover new expenses – helping Bain earn back part of its initial investment.
In 1995, Romney’s Bain had GS acquire another firm, adding over a hundred million in new debt. By then, Bain had forced the company to hold $378 million in debt, which was ten times the annual income of the company and “the company was not on a sustainable course.”
At the same time, Romney’s firm was ordering changes that undermined safety and productivity at the company and installing people who knew little about the steel industry. A worker remarked, “When Romney and Bain came in, it was painfully obvious that they didn’t have a clue about anything to do with a steel mill.”
From 1997 to 1999, losses at the company increased by 300% and it was clear the company could not survive.
By the time the company legally filed for bankruptcy, Romney and his firm had made at least $9 million in profit. Former company officials said the mill, which had been operating since 1888, could have dealt better with market fluctuations if Bain had not forced the company to take on unsustainable debt. A finance professor remarked that using debt to pay large dividends to Bain left the company less prepared for a downturn.
Because Romney’s firm had forced the company to take on hundreds of millions in debt to pay themselves and finance acquisitions, ultimately leading it towards bankruptcy, “GS said it was shedding the guarantees it had promised its workers in the event of a plant closure - the severance pay, health insurance, life insurance and pension supplements that had been negotiated during the 1997 strike.”
Additionally, “records show that the mill's Bain-backed management was confronted several times about the fund's shortfall, which, in the end, required an infusion of funds from the federal Pension Benefits Guarantee Corp.” A federal government agency had to spend $44 million to bail out the pension plan that had been underfunded by Bain.
Reuters called GS one of Bain’s “profitable failures” and a former worker who saw the demise of the plant firsthand said, “Every promise they made was broken. Every promise. Except the fact that they did make a lot of money off of it. They kept that one.”
The obama bundler shut it down.
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bain ran it in the hole moron,why don't you start more lies,you have to be the dumbest fu@k on this site
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bain ran it in the hole moron,why don't you start more lies,you have to be the dumbest fu@k on this site
Romney was gone for 4 years at that point.
BTW - Your oreo messiah got more Bain $$$$$$$ than Romney did in 2008.
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Romney was gone for 4 years at that point.
BTW - Your oreo messiah got more Bain $$$$$$$ than Romney did in 2008.
your to stupid to deal with read the article moron,
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your to stupid to deal with read the article moron,
LOL from someone without even 1st grade spelling and grammar abilities.
BTW its "TOO" you stupid obama tampon.
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LOL from someone without even 1st grade spelling and grammar abilities.
BTW its "TOO" you stupid obama tampon.
typ. change the subject from the getbig lier,how many lies does this make that you been caught in,thats why nobody reads your bullshit posts :D
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typ. change the subject from the getbig lier,how many lies does this make that you been caught in,thats why nobody reads your bullshit posts :D
LOL - its "liar" in case you need assistance spelling.
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LOL - its "liar" in case you need assistance spelling.
i'll just use the term ,you told a 333386,everyone will know what that is. :D :D :D
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Woman mentioned in Anti-Romney Priorities ad died in '06
POLITICO ^ | 08/07/2012 | Alexander Burns
Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2012 2:01:01 PM by SeekAndFind
The pro-Obama super PAC Priorities USA Action lobbed a heavy-duty attack at Mitt Romney this morning, airing an ad that links the closure of a GST Steel plant in Kansas City to the loss of a family’s health insurance — and the death of a woman some time later.
The man speaking in the ad, Joe Soptic, says, “Mitt Romney and Bain closed the plant, I lost my health care and my family lost their health care. And a short time after that my wife became ill.” Soptic explains he’s not exactly sure when his wife became sick, but that when he took her to the hospital she had undetected, advanced cancer and died 22 days later.
The Romney campaign has pushed back on other GST Steel-related attacks by arguing that the plant in Kansas City closed after he stepped away from his management job at Bain. (Democrats counter that Romney was still listed as a top executive at Bain through 2002, and that he built up the private equity firm during the time it invested in GST Steel.)
In the case of this particularly jarring super PAC ad, it may also be relevant that Soptic’s wife died in 2006, years after the GST factory closed down.
A 2006 story in the Kansas City Star reported the death of Ranae Soptic, a former champion roller skater: “Soptic went to the hospital for pneumonia, but doctors found signs of very advanced cancer, and she died two weeks later on June 22.”
I asked Priorities USA strategist Bill Burton to explain the connection between Romney, Bain and a cancer fatality that happened near the end of Romney’s tenure as governor of Massachusetts. The lapse in time between the plant closing and Soptic’s death doesn’t mean the ad is invalid, but it raises questions about the cause and effect relationship here.
“We’re illustrating how long it took for communities and individuals to recover from the closing of these businesses,” Burton responded. “Families and individuals had to find new jobs, new sources of health insurance and a way to make up for the pensions they lost. Mitt Romney has had an enduring impact on the lives of thousands of men and women and for many of them, that impact has been devastating.”
Like most of the outside-group ads in the 2012 race, the fairness of this one is open to interpretation. But both the Priorities attack and the new welfare-themed hit on Obama from the Romney campaign are provoking more intense outrage — both publicly and privately — than most of the other spots we’ve seen this summer.
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Disgraceful how obama is willing to engage in such gutter politics
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please don't act surprised about this. You all voted Bush in 2000 after that Mccain adopted baby scandal. You don't care about anything but your party. If obama was getting railroaded by an obvious lie ad (as this one is), you'd say "So be it - anything to see that kenyan get out of office".
SO while the ad is bullshit, so is the high horse you're standing on.
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Typical. Obama should be condemning this stuff. Probably a little hard to do when he's actually supporting it. Same with the Harry McCarthy Reid allegations.
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please don't act surprised about this. You all voted Bush in 2000 after that Mccain adopted baby scandal. You don't care about anything but your party. If obama was getting railroaded by an obvious lie ad (as this one is), you'd say "So be it - anything to see that kenyan get out of office".
SO while the ad is bullshit, so is the high horse you're standing on.
Fine then when someone releases ads about people people dying off due to lack of health coverage due to no jobs in obama's depression, you should equally STFU about it.
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Typical. Obama should be condemning this stuff. Probably a little hard to do when he's actually supporting it. Same with the Harry McCarthy Reid allegations.
Its his own superpac!
Condemn it? Obama is a nastiest dirtiest lying piece of garbage ever when it comes to this. remember when Hillary warned everyone of Obama's dishonest and deceitful nature?
Team Tampon refused to listen.
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Fine then when someone releases ads about people people dying off due to lack of health coverage due to no jobs in obama's depression, you should equally STFU about it.
who the fck said it's fine when ppl release ...blah blah...
re-read what i said:
an obvious lie ad (as this one is)
the ad is bullshit
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Pretty harsh. And she was right.
She had to put a lot aside to serve in his cabinet. I bet they spent very little time together.
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Pretty harsh. And she was right.
She had to put a lot aside to serve in his cabinet. I bet they spent very little time together.
The best part is that all of the things he accused Hillary of doing to win the nomination is what he himself put into ObamaCare!!!!
Do none of you obama slaves see this?
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The best part is that all of the things he accused Hillary of doing to win the nomination is what he himself put into ObamaCare!!!!
Do none of you obama slaves see this?
you aren't going to convert a single obama voter to your side if you come at them so abrasive.
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your to stupid to deal with read the article moron,
“OBAMA MYTH: Bankrupting a successful steel mill in Kansas City, MO.
REALITY: The GS Technologies plant that Barack Obama has used to attack Mitt Romney was scheduled to be closed if Romney and his colleagues hadn’t bought the plant and tried to help turn it around.
In 1993, GS Technologies, a company Bain Capital had invested in, purchased a struggling Kansas City steel plant from Armco. Prior to this investment, Armco announced plans to close the Kansas City plant if a buyer could not be found.
This investment – and $170 million in upgrades – kept the Kansas City plant competitive in a tough international market and saved the steel workers’ jobs for eight years.
Two years after Mitt Romney left Bain Capital, the GS Technologies plant was closed because of foreign steel dumping into the U.S. market. Thirty-one other steel companies declared bankruptcy during the same period.”
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you aren't going to convert a single obama voter to your side if you come at them so abrasive.
If anyone is still supporting this ghetto street thug marxist wannabe, like you do, after all of the bullshit we have seen over the last 4 years, they are beyond being converted and deserve to be mocked, derided, and have their ignorance and stupidity rubbed in their face.
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If anyone is still supporting this ghetto street thug marxist wannabe, like you do, after all of the bullshit we have seen over the last 4 years, they are beyond being converted and deserve to be mocked, derided, and have their ignorance and stupidity rubbed in their face.
should they be thrown into woodchippers?
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should they be thrown into woodchippers?
No, they should be constantly reminded of the hypocrisy, lies, sell outs, and soul selling they do just to support a communist radical street agitator who is trying to collapse our country.
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A new ad from a super PAC supporting President Obama ties former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney to a family’s loss of health insurance and a woman’s subsequent death from cancer.
It’s the fourth hard-hitting ad from Priorities USA Action that focuses on former workers at companies closed by Romney’s former private equity firm, Bain Capital.
“I don’t think Mitt Romney understands what he’s done to people’s lives by closing the plant,” said Joe Soptic, a former employee at GST Steel in Kansas City, in the ad. He says he lost his health care, and then his wife became ill.
“I don’t know how long she was sick, and I think maybe she didn’t say anything because she knew that we couldn’t afford the insurance,” Soptic adds. When she finally went to the hospital they found out that it was stage-four cancer, he says. She died soon after.
Soptic concludes, “I do not think Mitt Romney realizes what he’s done to anyone, and furthermore I do not think Mitt Romney is concerned.”
The Republican candidate left Bain before GST Steel went bankrupt; Obama’s team has argued that the story is fair because Romney was at Bain when the initial investment was made.
Romney spokesman Ryan Williams called the ad one of many “discredited and dishonest attacks” meant to “conceal the administration’s deplorable economic record.”
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LMFAO ! ! ! ! ! !
Are you fucking kidding me?
Romney was not there for 4 years at that point!
He was there but it makes no difference. Romney's greed for money which caused that plant to close down had indirect and unforseen consequences. Those people lost their health insurance because of him and Bain Capital.
He owns it plain and simple and its fair game. He wasn't paid to say it or anything and he has an legitimate beef with Romney
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Typical.
He was there but it makes no difference. Romney's greed for money which caused that plant to close down had indirect and unforseen consequences. Those people lost their health insurance because of him and Bain Capital.
He owns it plain and simple and its fair game. He wasn't paid to say it or anything and he has an legitimate beef with Romney
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Typical.
If that guy thinks that Mitt Romney is responsible for the death of his wife because they had no health insurance and didn't get regular checkups to save money, then who is anyone to argue with him?? He wasn't compensated or anything and he's not going to get his wife back.
Its not nice to say but its a free country...just like those who say Obama was born in Kenya and is a communist and doesn't care about people.....that's politics
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This campaign is out of control. What we're seeing is utter desperation. I'm not even sure how they'll be able to deal with all this crap during the debates. But that's probably part of the strategy. Throw so much garbage out there that the opposition can't deal with all of it.
New Obama super PAC cancer ad stretches truth: Will Obama renounce it?
Share posted at 2:21 pm on August 7, 2012
by Howard Portnoy
An earlier article in this space noted that pro-Obama super PAC Priorities USA Action has released an outrageous ad that attempts to link Mitt Romney to the cancer death of a Kansas City resident. The woman who succumbed to that dread disease was the wife of a steelworker at a plant in the city that went bankrupt some years after it was acquired by Bain Capital.
The ad was a reach to start with. Romney was no longer running Bain when the company, GST Steel, filed Chapter 11. But it turns out the heartrending story in the ad plays fast and loose with the facts. (h/t reader letget).
The basic outlines of the narrative are accurate. Joe Soptic, the man the ad focuses on, was an employee of GST’s Kansas City plant. His claim that he and his family lost their health insurance when the plant closed seems plausible. It also factual that Soptic’s wife was diagnosed with stage-4 cancer, which ultimately caused her death.
But here is where the narrative runs afoul of the unvarnished truth. Soptic’s claim that his wife became ill “a short time after” the plant closed in 2002 and died “22 days later” does not comport with the facts.
As Alexander Burn writes at Politico:
A 2006 story in the Kansas City Star reported the death of Ranae Soptic, a former champion roller skater: ‘Soptic went to the hospital for pneumonia, but doctors found signs of very advanced cancer, and she died two weeks later on June 22.’
The woman’s death occurred four years after the plant was closed. It is possible that Soptic’s memory is faulty and that he simply misremembers the exact chronology of the events of that period. As Burns notes, “The lapse in time between the plant closing and Soptic’s death doesn’t mean the ad is invalid, but it raises questions about the cause and effect relationship here.”
Burns reached out to Bill Burton, Priorities USA strategist and a former Obama spokesman, about the seeming discrepancy. Burton responded:
We’re illustrating how long it took for communities and individuals to recover from the closing of these businesses. Families and individuals had to find new jobs, new sources of health insurance and a way to make up for the pensions they lost.
But it appears Burton’s “illustration” runs outside the lines. Will the Obama campaign renounce the ad?
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/08/07/new-obama-super-pac-cancer-ad-stretches-truth-will-obama-renounce-it/
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Well, at least Obama is consistent.
A few months back Osama ran an equally dishonest and contemptible attack ad against Romney which highlighted the atrocities of Capitalism and the exploitation of the 99% through Mitt's dark alliance with Bain Capital.
The ad in question highlighted GST Steel-- an outfit which closed its doors in 2001. Unfortunately for Obama (and the facts, reality etc.) Romney left his day to day operation of Bain in 1999 to run the Olympic Games in Salt Lake City. The following article from Forbes magazine describes in greater detail why the ad is utter crap: http://www.forbes.com/sites/garyshapiro/2012/05/23/innovation-and-capitalism-obama-ad-backfires/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/garyshapiro/2012/05/23/innovation-and-capitalism-obama-ad-backfires/)
But even more to the point, Jonathan Lavine was at Bain when GST was shut down. Yes, that would be the same Jonathan Lavine who moonlights as one of the biggest bundlers for team Obama.
The equally nauseating ad which aired today-- also highlights GST Steel! This time an extremely suspicious sounding (albeit sad) story is told from one of the same GST workers who appeared in a previous Obama smear job against Romney. This time he got laid off, his wife got cancer- blah blah blah-- Romney did it.
Besides the fact that the story told in the ad makes no sense whatsoever: (1) His wife knew she was sick, but didn't tell him or go to the doctor because it was too expensive?! Was she psychic? Had she never heard of medicaid? Was she not on speaking terms with her husband? (2) Romney had nothing to do with GST being shut down and now-- as the other shoe drops; the truth is revealed= http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/07/ad-linking-romney-to-death-of-the-wife-of-a-laid-off-steelworker-not-accurate/ (http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/07/ad-linking-romney-to-death-of-the-wife-of-a-laid-off-steelworker-not-accurate/)
Obviously, Romney had nothing to do with this woman's death. I'm pretty sure cancer did her in. Although, I would check the coroners cause of death. The toe tag might say "Victim of Mitt Romney and Capitalism".
It turns out that the wife of the GST worker who died didn't even depend on her husbands medical insurance. Her employer was the primary source of her medical insurance. IN addition, it wasn't until she got hurt on the job in 2003 ( at a non Bain owned entity-- sorry everyone for the bad news) that she was forced to leave her job. As a result she lost her medical insurance. The entire sob story told in this ad about being diagnosed with cancer and then dying shortly afterward didn't happen until 2006. Romney officially stepped down from Bain in 2002 and had no hand in day to day operations as of 1999. Without being redundant, guess who was at Bain during the years in question-- Drumroll....... Jonathan Lavine.
As I said, at least Obama is consistent.
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If that guy thinks that Mitt Romney is responsible for the death of his wife because they had no health insurance and didn't get regular checkups to save money, then who is anyone to argue with him?? He wasn't compensated or anything and he's not going to get his wife back.
Its not nice to say but its a free country...just like those who say Obama was born in Kenya and is a communist and doesn't care about people.....that's politics
So according to you then, it is perfectly reasonable for agents Zapata and agent Terry to blame. Obama for their sons deaths in fast n furious correct?
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Cancer Victim Had Health Insurance For Year or Two After Bain Closed Plant
By Katrina Trinko
August 7, 2012 6:24 P.M. Comments12
Earlier today, pro-Obama super PAC Priorities USA released an ad in which Joe Soptic discusses how he lost his job because Bain closed a GST Steel plant in Kansas City, Missouri, in 2001, and notes that his wife passed away of cancer not long after, suggesting that she waited to see a doctor (she had stage 4 cancer by the time she received medical attention) because of the couple’s lack of health insurance.
Well, first it turned out that Soptic’s wife, Ranae Soptic, died in 2006 — five years after the GST Steel plant closed. And now, CNN reports that Soptic told them that Ranae Soptic had health insurance through 2002 or 2003, due to her job at a local thrift store (hat tip: Greg Pollowitz):
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CNN Priorities USA Fact Check (Steelworker's wife 'killed' by Romney quit job w/ health insurance)
CNN via YouTube ^ | Tuesday, August 7, 2012
Posted on August 7, 2012 8:34:00 PM EDT by kristinn
No description at YouTube, so my write up:
CNN's Brianna Kielar spoke with Joe Soptic, a former steelworker featured in a new pro-Obama super PAC ad who was laid off in 2001 when Bain Capital closed the company he had worked at for a reported 30 years. Without directly accusing Soptic and Priorities USA of being despicable liars, CNN lets its reporting call them out as despicable liars.
Soptic told CNN his wife had her own health insurance at her own job when he was laid off. Soptic said his wife quit her job a year or two later due to an unspecified injury, thereby losing her own health insurance. But Soptic still blames her death in 2006 from a brief bout with cancer due to his lack of family health insurance because he was laid off in 2001. In the Priorities USA ad, Soptic says it was a "short time later" from when he was laid off to when his wife got sick and died. CNN reports it was actually five years.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/woman-priorities-anti-romney-ad-died-of-cancer-four-years-later-2012-8
busted.
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i saw an obama rep on cnn tonight - she would neither own nor disown this ad.
another example of why superPacs are runining this eleciton.
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i saw an obama rep on cnn tonight - she would neither own nor disown this ad.
another example of why superPacs are runining this eleciton.
EXACTLY
and given that they can collect unlimited funds from one person or more and never disclose who they are we really have no idea who is really influencing this election
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EXACTLY
and given that they can collect unlimited funds from one person or more and never disclose who they are we really have no idea who is really influencing this election
Do you agree this ad is total horesehit?
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Do you agree this ad is total horesehit?
haven't watched it
don't give a shit
Ads make no difference to me and they both bend the truth
the angle of the bend doesn't really matter to me
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haven't watched it
don't give a shit
Ads make no difference to me and they both bend the truth
the angle of the bend doesn't really matter to me
I have a bro in Columbus Ohio and he tells me it's 24 7 political ads.
in NYC we get literally nothing at all. only ads I have seen are during the olypmics. I'm sure in Cali it's the same.
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the ad is horse shit.
SUperPacs are the reason romney had to swing too far right in SC, FL and even michigan... putting himself in a shitty position with moderates for all the crazy shit he had to agree with.
superpacs are going to do this shit until november.
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the ad is horse shit.
SUperPacs are the reason romney had to swing too far right in SC, FL and even michigan... putting himself in a shitty position with moderates for all the crazy shit he had to agree with.
superpacs are going to do this shit until november.
almost all ads are at least 50% horseshit
everyone should know that
I'd like to know who is paying the freight to put these ads on the public airwaves
is that too much to ask ?
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I have a bro in Columbus Ohio and he tells me it's 24 7 political ads.
in NYC we get literally nothing at all. only ads I have seen are during the olypmics. I'm sure in Cali it's the same.
have you seen the Romney welfare ad?
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have you seen the Romney welfare ad?
nothing.
Only ads I have seen are during the NBC Olympic coverage of the Obama ad which is repeated over and over and over.
it's funny, in NYC we nave nothing p, no ads, no bumper stickers, nothing.
It's strange. Am in the middle of the Bronx, see nothing at all.
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nothing.
Only ads I have seen are during the NBC Olympic coverage of the Obama ad which is repeated over and over and over.
it's funny, in NYC we nave nothing p, no ads, no bumper stickers, nothing.
It's strange. Am in the middle of the Bronx, see nothing at all.
it definitely seems like you live in a strange world
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it definitely seems like you live in a strange world
Whatever. I'm telling you, we have no ads, nothing. If I see one 2012 bumper sticker it's a lot.
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Ad linking Romney to death of the wife of a laid off steelworker not accurate
cnn.com ^ | August. 7, 2012 | Brianna Keilar
Posted on August 7, 2012 10:22:26 PM EDT by Free ThinkerNY
A new attack ad by a Super PAC backing President Obama appears to blame Mitt Romney for a woman's death from cancer after his company, Bain Capital, shut down the steel mill where the woman's husband worked.
The ad makes it seem like Joe Soptic's wife, Ilyona, lost her battle with cancer shortly after he lost his job at GST Steel in Missouri, where he had worked for almost 30 years.
"When Mitt Romney closed the plant I lost my healthcare, and my family lost their healthcare," Soptic says in the ad put out by Priorities USA Action, the main pro-Obama super PAC. "A short time after that, my wife became ill. I don’t know how long she was sick and I think maybe she didn’t say anything because she knew we couldn’t afford the insurance."
It's a very heart-wrenching story, but it’s not accurate. Here is the actual timeline:
Romney stopped his day-to-day oversight at Bain Capital in 1999 when he left to run the Salt Lake City Olympics, though he officially remained CEO until 2002. Bain Capital shut down GST Steel in 2001, costing Soptic his job.
According to Mr. Soptic, his wife received her primary insurance through her employer – a local thrift store called Savers – and retained it even after his layoff. Soptic's policy through GST Steel was her secondary coverage.
In 2002, Mitt Romney formally left Bain. Sometime in 2002 or 2003, Mr. Soptic says his wife injured her rotator cuff and was forced to leave her job. As a result she lost her health insurance coverage and Mr. Soptic's new job as a janitor did not provide coverage for his spouse.
It was a few years later, in 2006, that Ilyona Soptic went to the hospital with symptoms of pneumonia.
(Excerpt) Read more at whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com ...
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Whatever. I'm telling you, we have no ads, nothing. If I see one 2012 bumper sticker it's a lot.
I'm sure sometime tomorrow you'll post Romney's welfare ad
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I'm sure sometime tomorrow you'll post Romney's welfare ad
Whatever. We got nothing going on election wise.
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Obama Smear Campaign On Mitt Romney Continues
Political Realities ^ | 08/08/12 | LD Jackson
Posted on August 8, 2012 6:43:23 AM EDT by LD Jackson
Just when we thought the smear campaign against Mitt Romney could get no worse, it does. I am almost at a loss for words to describe the lies that are now being told about Mitt Romney. Ridiculous and despicable are the only terms that really come close. First, we have Harry Reid and his lies about having a source who told him Mitt Romney didn't pay taxes for 10 years. Reid says it is up to Romney to prove the allegation false. That was bad enough. Now we have Priorities USA, a Super Pac supporting Barack Obama, publishing an ad that tries to tie the GOP nominee to the death of the wife of a steel worker who lost his job when Bain Capital closed the steel plant where he was working. You can read more on the story at The Lonely Conservative and WyBlog. I am including the ad in its entirety so our readers can see what Mitt Romney is being accused of.
Please visit Political Realities to see the ad.
The real story of the Joe Soptic story basically goes like this. Bain Capital acquired GST Steel in 1993. In 1999, Mitt Romney let Bain Capital to run the Olympics in Salt Lake City, Utah. Even though he remains CEO of Bain Capital, Romney has no dealings with the day-to-day operations of the firm. In 2001, GST Steel is closed and Joe Soptic loses his job, as well as his healthcare insurance. His wife still retains her healthcare insurance from her employer. Romney formally leaves Bain Capital in 2002. It is that year, or maybe a year later, in 2003, that Joe Soptic's wife loses her job and her healthcare insurance. In 2006, she was diagnosed with cancer and passes away.
As any discerning adult can see, Mitt Romney had nothing to do with the death of Joe Soptic's wife. I feel for the man, I really do. I am sorry he lost his wife, but the blame for her death does not lie at the feet of Mitt Romney. I would even go so far as to suggest Joe Soptic is not doing his wife's memory any favors by using her in such a dishonest way.
If the Obama campaign was acting in a responsible manner, they would have already distanced themselves from Harry Reid and his lies and accusations against Mitt Romney. They would have already been in the media, explaining how they disagree with the ad published by Priorities USA. But, as we all know, that isn't how Obama works. They are throwing the dirt out for all to see and hoping enough of it sticks to Mitt Romney and persuades enough voters in November.
It doesn't matter that the accusations about Mitt Romney are false. The real story of the death of Joe Soptic's wife doesn't matter to them. The only thing that matters is smearing their opponent into nonexistence. Given the dismal record of Barack Obama, it is their only hope of winning the election. Given the events of the past three years and how Barack Obama has "managed" the economy and our liberties, God help us all if they succeed.
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romney is fine with using obama quotes incorrectly when he quotes mccain, calling it 'persuasive art'. They smirk about it.
Now, obama plays the same trick, and they can't stop crying into their tampon. Cowboy up already, you do it too, you can't cry about it.
Welcome to the world of superPACs. You wanted this, right?
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romney is fine with using obama quotes incorrectly when he quotes mccain, calling it 'persuasive art'. They smirk about it.
Now, obama plays the same trick, and they can't stop crying into their tampon. Cowboy up already, you do it too, you can't cry about it.
Welcome to the world of superPACs. You wanted this, right?
Even everyone on Morning Joe agreed this is the low of the low and the Repubs have not run anything this disgusting and false.
Typical though you approve of this since you are desperate for another term of obama and know he has nothing to run on whatsoever.
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So according to you then, it is perfectly reasonable for agents Zapata and agent Terry to blame. Obama for their sons deaths in fast n furious correct?
In that logic, it would fall to Bush. Fast and Furious was started during his administration.
But my point is that he really thinks that Romney is responsible for the death of his wife. Romney is going to have to deal with his tenure at Bain Capital, he simply can't hide behind it
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This campaign is out of control. What we're seeing is utter desperation. I'm not even sure how they'll be able to deal with all this crap during the debates. But that's probably part of the strategy. Throw so much garbage out there that the opposition can't deal with all of it.
New Obama super PAC cancer ad stretches truth: Will Obama renounce it?
Share posted at 2:21 pm on August 7, 2012
by Howard Portnoy
An earlier article in this space noted that pro-Obama super PAC Priorities USA Action has released an outrageous ad that attempts to link Mitt Romney to the cancer death of a Kansas City resident. The woman who succumbed to that dread disease was the wife of a steelworker at a plant in the city that went bankrupt some years after it was acquired by Bain Capital.
The ad was a reach to start with. Romney was no longer running Bain when the company, GST Steel, filed Chapter 11. But it turns out the heartrending story in the ad plays fast and loose with the facts. (h/t reader letget).
The basic outlines of the narrative are accurate. Joe Soptic, the man the ad focuses on, was an employee of GST’s Kansas City plant. His claim that he and his family lost their health insurance when the plant closed seems plausible. It also factual that Soptic’s wife was diagnosed with stage-4 cancer, which ultimately caused her death.
But here is where the narrative runs afoul of the unvarnished truth. Soptic’s claim that his wife became ill “a short time after” the plant closed in 2002 and died “22 days later” does not comport with the facts.
As Alexander Burn writes at Politico:
A 2006 story in the Kansas City Star reported the death of Ranae Soptic, a former champion roller skater: ‘Soptic went to the hospital for pneumonia, but doctors found signs of very advanced cancer, and she died two weeks later on June 22.’
The woman’s death occurred four years after the plant was closed. It is possible that Soptic’s memory is faulty and that he simply misremembers the exact chronology of the events of that period. As Burns notes, “The lapse in time between the plant closing and Soptic’s death doesn’t mean the ad is invalid, but it raises questions about the cause and effect relationship here.”
Burns reached out to Bill Burton, Priorities USA strategist and a former Obama spokesman, about the seeming discrepancy. Burton responded:
We’re illustrating how long it took for communities and individuals to recover from the closing of these businesses. Families and individuals had to find new jobs, new sources of health insurance and a way to make up for the pensions they lost.
But it appears Burton’s “illustration” runs outside the lines. Will the Obama campaign renounce the ad?
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/08/07/new-obama-super-pac-cancer-ad-stretches-truth-will-obama-renounce-it/
Why does Obama need to renounce it???.....its not his ad.
It is however why we need to get rid of SuperPacs..they can basically attack without any care or concern
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/08/us/politics/ex-factory-worker-links-losses-to-bain.html?ref=politics
Even the NYT admits this ad is full of shit, but don't let that stop the 95ers, far leftist communists, obama cultists, lgbt crowd, and other fringe elements of society from eating these lies up like pie.
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Meet the Real Workers Obama Screwed Over
Townhall.com ^ | August 8, 2012 | Michelle Malkin
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012
Chutzpah overload in full effect: President Obama's sleazy super-PAC, run by his former White House spokesman Bill Burton, just released an ad accusing GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney of causing the cancer death of a steelworker's wife.
It's not just a slanderous and false attack. It's a foolish attempt to camouflage the administration's massive jobs death toll, politicized pension plundering and Big Labor bailout cronyism. And it will backfire big time because the thousands and thousands of true victims of Obama's economic wreckage are speaking up and fighting back.
Let's dispense with the "Romney = murderer" meme first. The warped Priorities USA ad features the claims of one Joe Soptic, a former employee at the Kansas City-based GST Steel plant. The plant went bankrupt years after Bain Capital acquired it. Soptic blames Romney for the loss of his job and health insurance -- and for the subsequent death of his wife a "short time after" the plant's closure.
But Romney stopped working for Bain in 1999. The plant closed in 2001. And Soptic's wife died in 2006. Oh, and Soptic admitted to CNN on Tuesday afternoon that the family in fact had health insurance at the time of Soptic's wife's death. But it's still all-powerful, time-traveling, omnipresent Darth Romney's fault.
Obama flack turned super-PAC slime-master Burton shrugged off the facts and doubled down on the campaign's class-warfare bloviation. "Families and individuals had to find new jobs, new sources of health insurance and a way to make up for the pensions they lost," he told Politico. "Mitt Romney has had an enduring impact on the lives of thousands of men and women, and for many of them, that impact has been devastating."
Yet, the Soptic story is the best they could scrape together? Stamp this one "EPIC FAIL."
While Team Obama promotes fables to indict Romney, the incontrovertible stories of the current administration's economic malpractice are finally getting out. In 2010, I first reported on how Obama's UAW bailout threw tens of thousands of nonunion autoworkers under the bus. It's the ongoing horror story of some 20,000 white-collar workers at Delphi, a leading auto parts company spun off from GM a decade ago.
As Washington rushed to nationalize the U.S. auto industry with $80 billion in taxpayer "rescue" funds and avoid contested court termination proceedings, the White House auto team and the Treasury Department schemed with Big Labor bosses to preserve UAW members' costly pension funds by shafting their nonunion counterparts.
In addition, the nonunion pensioners lost all of their health and life insurance benefits. The abused workers -- most from hard-hit northeast Ohio, Michigan and neighboring states -- had devoted decades of their lives as secretaries, technicians, engineers and sales employees at Delphi/GM. Some workers have watched up to 70 percent of their pensions vanish.
"I worked for 34 years at GM/Delphi Corp. When Delphi went bankrupt, we lost everything," Dana Strickland of Michigan wrote me. "Because I was salaried (middle management), we lost our pension and health insurance. I did not belong to the union, so GM/Delphi could have cared less. I have never felt so betrayed. We never hear this brought to the public's attention. People need to know how we were screwed, while the Obama administration kissed up to the union."
"I'm one of the Delphi Salaried Retirees that lost the health care, life insurance and 67 percent of the pension I was promised in retirement after working hard for 40 years," Charles Stone of Michigan e-mailed. "Words cannot describe the frustration and let down these events have thrust on my family's lives, and to have GM's rescue all sugar-coated in the current political environment is like putting lipstick on a pig. ... We will continue to fight to right this grievous wrong."
Tom Rose of Ohio added: "I am one of the 20,000 salaried retirees that lost all of my health care and -- in my case -- a 40 percent pension cut. So I am now paying increased health care costs with fewer pension dollars and contributing what is left to our lawsuit to correct this injustice. Meanwhile, the politically connected union has their full pension and 90-plus percent of their health care. You have hit upon the key question: How can our own federal government pick winners and losers amongst its own citizens?"
Through two costly years of litigation and investigation, the Delphi workers have exposed how the stacked White House Auto Task Force schemed with union bosses to "cherry pick" (one Obama official's own words) which financial obligations the new Government Motors company would assume and which they would abandon based on their political expedience. Obama's own former auto czar Steve Rattner admitted in his recent memoir that "attacking the union's sacred cow" could "jeopardize" the auto bailout deal.
In June, 20 months after a federal judge first ordered the government to cooperate, the Delphi Salaried Retirees Association broke through the administration's information stonewall and dislodged 62,000 pages of documents in their lawsuit to right the administration's wrongs. As The Daily Caller reported on Tuesday, the documents included "internal government emails (that contradicted) sworn testimony, in federal court and before Congress, given by several Obama administration figures. They also indicate that the administration misled lawmakers and the courts ... and that administration figures violated federal law."
Meanwhile, the Delphi workers who got shafted are getting in the faces of the administration and the public with a new web ad produced by conservative advocacy group Let Freedom Ring. They are asking, "Why, Mr. President? Why?" They -- and America -- deserve answers and justice, not more Bizarro World smears and fantastical bedtime stories.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/08/us/politics/ex-factory-worker-links-losses-to-bain.html?ref=politics
Even the NYT admits this ad is full of shit, but don't let that stop the 95ers, far leftist communists, obama cultists, lgbt crowd, and other fringe elements of society from eating these lies up like pie.
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Tom Rose of Ohio added: "I am one of the 20,000 salaried retirees that lost all of my health care and -- in my case -- a 40 percent pension cut. So I am now paying increased health care costs with fewer pension dollars and contributing what is left to our lawsuit to correct this injustice. Meanwhile, the politically connected union has their full pension and 90-plus percent of their health care. You have hit upon the key question: How can our own federal government pick winners and losers amongst its own citizens?"
Obama looking out for the folks
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Barack Obama is a Murderer
Red State ^ | 8/8/2012 | Erick Erickson
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012
The Obama supporting Super PAC Priorities USA yesterday introduced us to Joe Soptic. Mitt Romney killed his wife. Except it is complete and utter crap.
Mitt Romney and Bain Capital bought GST Steel at some point. Romney left day to day operations of Bain in 1999. Thereafter, Bain offered Joe Soptic a buy out and he refused. Eventually the steel plant went out of business and Joe went on the unemployment line. That happened in 2001.
In 2002 or 2003, Mrs. Soptic injured her rotator cuff and left her job. She lost her insurance. In 2006, she was diagnosed with cancer and died a few days later. It is a terrible tragedy that Mitt Romney had nothing to do with.
It seems Mr. Soptic chose poorly on the buy out offer, lost his job, and would prefer to blame Mitt Romney than anyone else. Priorities USA has set a new standard — Mitt Romney killed a woman, despite being removed from both time of death and decision making.
We need far less than the convoluted logic of Priorities USA to conclude that Barack Obama is a murderer.
He is covered in Brian Terry’s blood.
Brian Terry was a border patrol agent.
Barack Obama’s Administration — while Obama was serving as President — started Operation Fast and Furious. An American fire arms dealer, working with the Obama Administration, sold a fire arm to a Mexican gun runner who took the gun into Mexico to use in the ongoing drug/civil war.
That gun came back across the border in the hands of someone who used it to kill Brian Terry.
There is a much more direct link between Barack Obama and Brian Terry’s murder than between Mitt Romney and Ilyona Soptic’s death from cancer.
If we are playing by Priorities USA’s rules, from here on out we can refer to Barack Obama as a murderer, considering his administration made the decisions that led to Brian Terry’s murder at a time period when Barack Obama was still on the job.
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http://nation.foxnews.com/political-ads/2012/08/07/dirty-pro-obama-ad-romney-killed-my-wife?cmpid=NL_FiredUpFoxNation
BUSTED
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http://nation.foxnews.com/political-ads/2012/08/07/dirty-pro-obama-ad-romney-killed-my-wife?cmpid=NL_FiredUpFoxNation
BUSTED
I wonder how soon Fox will bust Romney for his completely 100% false ad regarding welfare
I assume it will be happnening any moment now
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Why does Obama need to renounce it???.....its not his ad.
It is however why we need to get rid of SuperPacs..they can basically attack without any care or concern
He needs to denounce it because it's false, unnecessary, and contrary to the kind of "change" he promised the American people. And he definitely owns this.
Obama campaign no stranger to steelworker in disputed ad
Published August 08, 2012
FoxNews.com
The former Kansas City steelworker featured in a scathing ad tying his wife's death to Mitt Romney has appeared in Obama campaign videos before -- despite claims by a top Obama adviser Wednesday that he doesn't know "the specifics of this man's case" amid revelations that the ad is inaccurate and misleading.
. . .
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/08/steelworker-in-super-pac-ad-previously-appeared-in-obama-ads/
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I wonder how soon Fox will bust Romney for his completely 100% false ad regarding welfare
I assume it will be happnening any moment now
Bullshit. Obama is lying about this too.
http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/07/28/opinion/doc50148f3e9a46c758922983.txt
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Obama campaign: Don't blame us for ad blaming Romney for cancer death
Yahoo! News ^ | August. 8, 2012 | Olivier Knox
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 2:51:02
President Barack Obama's reelection campaign distanced itself on Wednesday from a harsh—and misleading—ad that effectively ties Mitt Romney's business decisions to a woman's cancer death. But neither the campaign nor the White House passed judgment on the vicious commercial, which emerged from a super PAC backing Obama.
"We have nothing, no involvement, with any ads that are done by Priorities USA. We don't' have any knowledge of the story of the family," Obama campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters aboard Air Force One.
"As you know, campaign finance rules in that regard are in place for a reason," she said, referring to laws forbidding outside groups from coordinating with the presidential campaigns.
(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...
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Bullshit. Obama is lying about this too.
http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/07/28/opinion/doc50148f3e9a46c758922983.txt
false once again
The very change that Obama made was requested by, among others, Republican Governors including one Willard M. Romney
Even the GOP architect of welfare reform has called Romney a liar for this ad:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/08/ron-haskins-welfare-reform-mitt-romney_n_1755653.html
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http://www.businessinsider.com/joe-soptic-romney-obama-ad-campaign-priorities-usa-2012-8
B U S T E D
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-camp-denies-knowledge-cancer-tale-told-may-195237581.html
BUSTED.
What a joke that they are using this guy to lie in order to prop up Thulsa Doom
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A Harsh Anti-Romney Ad Sparks Criticism (New! Soptic Chose Not to Insure Wife at Post-Steel Job)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | Wednesday, August 8, 2012 | Peter Nicholas and Colleen McCain Nelson
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:30:42 PM by kristinn
...played a role in the death of Ilyona Soptic at age 55.
The ad features Joe Soptic, 62, of Missouri, who lost his job when GST Steel of Kansas City—owned by Bain and other investors for eight years—was closed. As melancholy music plays, Mr. Soptic says that when the plant closed, he and his family lost their health-care coverage and "a short time after that, my wife became ill." Her illness was diagnosed five years later. "I don't think Mitt Romney understands what he's done to people's lives by closing the plant," Mr. Soptic says in the ad.
The steel plant was purchased in 1993 and closed in 2001. Mr. Romney departed Bain in 1999 and had no role in the decision to close the plant, his campaign said.
In an interview, Mr. Soptic said he thought the ad was fair. But he also said of Mr. Romney: "I'm not blaming him for her death. I wouldn't do that."
Mr. Soptic said that his wife was receiving health insurance through her employer at the time he lost his job at GST Steel, though she later suffered an injury, left her job and lost her insurance coverage. He could not say precisely when this occurred.
Mr. Soptic said that after he lost his job, he found work as a school custodian about six months later and had the option to put her on his insurance plan. But he opted not to, he said, because he could not afford the more than $350 monthly premium on the $25,000 salary he was making, on top of paying his mortgage and a daughter's college tuition. Ilyona Soptic was diagnosed with cancer in 2006 and died that year.
(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...
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President Pays Price for Acrid Campaign Culture
By Chris Stirewalt
Power Play
Published August 09, 2012
FoxNews.com
"If [then-Obama communications director] Robert Gibbs started running a [independent political expenditure group] and I called Robert Gibbs and said, 'Stop running ads on my behalf,' are you suggesting I would have no influence over Robert Gibbs?"
-- Then Sen. Barack Obama, as quoted by Politico, in West Des Moines, Iowa in December of 2007 attacking opponent John Edwards for negative ads being run by an outside group run by a former Edwards aide.
President Obama is now starting to pay the price for his intensely negative, very personal campaign against soon-to-be Republican nominee Mitt Romney.
On Monday, Power Play predicted that the intense personal animus that Obama had for Romney as described in a forthcoming Politico book could cause serious trouble for Obama's campaign. The danger when the man or woman at the top really despises his opponent is that underlings will go too far in their attacks.
On Tuesday, the Obama-backed political action committee unleashed the nastiest ad of the presidential contest so far. The group, Priorities USA, is led by a former top Obama aide, has the president's blessing and has received fundraising help from top Obama deputies, including his campaign manager.
The new ad stars a steelworker from Obama's first attack ad of the general election, which accused Romney of being a "vampire" because of the shuttering of a steel mill in Kansas City. The PAC ad picks up the story of the steelworker after the closure and lays the blame at Romney's feet for his wife's death from cancer five years later because their health insurance had been disrupted.
The Obama-backed group can't coordinate with the campaign, but it can use the campaign's work. In this case, the campaign had already known about the cancer story since the steelworker, Joe Soptic, had already told the tale on a conference call with reporters when the Obama ad first ran back in May.
Obama's campaign knew that its opening attack on Romney would be heavily scrutinized. The highly negative and personal nature of Obama's campaign has raised eyebrows even among the most docile members of the media. The campaign also knew that the ad tugged at the truth a bit. Romney had left the firm when the plant closed, the intervention had preserved many jobs for several years, etc.
But they could walk that line and survive, given the low standards for veracity in campaign ads. Accusing Romney, with several more leaps in logic, of killing a man's wife, though, was too much for the campaign of a sitting president, even one that has decided to be nasty.
But for what is now called a "super PAC," groups that Obama once called "shadowy" but subsequently embraced in his bid to win a second term, perhaps the consequences would not be so bad.
The Obama-backed Obama backers at Priorities USA thought they were doing a favor for the president: going where he couldn't go. And given what Obama has said about Romney and the months of character attacks on the Republican, they certainly had every reason to think that the president would be pleased that they had found an even uglier way to go after Romney.
Henry II asked, "Will no one rid me of the pestilent priest?" and some enterprising knights offed Thomas Becket. Obama's campaign called Romney a possible felon and a vampire, and his former aides decided to go all the way and call him a murderer.
The Obama-backed group picked up the cancer story and ran with it. Using the campaign's legwork, Priorities USA put together an ad so nasty and so tendentious that even Democrats feel obliged to disown it.
The standard defense in politics when someone does something bad on your behalf is to, at least at first, deny knowledge or involvement and then throw your hands up at the way the political system works.
Obama surrogates tried that on Wednesday, saying they had no knowledge of the story and washed their hands of the ad. And in true political PR fashion, made the pivot to say that while they didn't know anything about the ad, it was true that Romney didn't care about workers having health insurance.
But the campaign did know the story, because they had told it first, just not through a television bullhorn.
The Pontius Pilate defense did not work because Priorities USA had so carefully hewed to the original Obama attack -- the same steelworker, the same story -- that there was no plausible deniability.
Now, Obama finds himself with his campaign having been caught feigning ignorance about an unsavory ad produced by an organization he supports. For a sitting president whose pitch is so tied to reforming politics that he forgot to take a lamentation of "super PACs" out of his stump speech amid the controversy on Wednesday, this is not a good situation.
Back when he was an underdog, Obama would have seized on such a blunder by an opponent's organization, and he did. Obama scoffed at notions of invisible walls between campaigns and outside groups and demanded that his opponents denounce the nasty tactics of their former aides.
Romney's campaign didn't pounce as quickly as Obama would have in 2008, first adopting a defensive crouch and insisting that had the woman lived in Massachusetts she would have been covered under Romney's 2007 health law.
But other Republicans got their indignation engines fired up and are prodding the political press to look at the chasm between what Obama has said about these kinds of attacks and what he is doing now. And Team Romney now seems to be moving from defense to offense on the subject.
Obama may yet be forced to denounce the ad. And if he does, he will have himself to blame because it was he who fostered the toxic attitudes toward his opponent inside Obamaland.
Chris Stirewalt is digital politics editor for Fox News, and his POWER PLAY column appears Monday-Friday on FoxNews.com.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/09/president-pays-price-for-acrid-campaign-culture/#ixzz234OddHIt
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youre complaining about broken 2007 campaign promises regarding hypotheticals?
lmao... maybe you have something 5 more years recent to complain about? Or are obama's current actions too identical to those of romney??
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youre complaining about broken 2007 campaign promises regarding hypotheticals?
lmao... maybe you have something 5 more years recent to complain about? Or are obama's current actions too identical to those of romney??
Funny - since when people bring up things your gay messiah does right now you kneepad that too.
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Funny - since when people bring up things your gay messiah does right now you kneepad that too.
are you a homophobe, 333386??
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are you a homophobe, 333386??
Most of the time. Most gay people disgust me w their behavior.
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Most of the time. Most gay people disgust me w their behavior.
See, I'm not a fan of public displays of sex/making out, but it's not just gay stuff. I dont want to see two teenagers giving each other hickeys on the playground either, ya know?
I dont care if people do what their bodies tell them is right. But then again, I dont feel the govt should invade the personal rights of individuals. Gun bans, socialized medicine, anti-gay marriage stuff... that's representative of the romney platform a government that doesn't respect the Constitution.
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Bill Burton: We Completely Stand By Our Romney 'Cancer' Ad
Townhall.com ^ | August 9, 2012 | Guy Benson
Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2012 1:30:47
Greg pulled the clip last night and Allahpundit wrote it up, but it's worth revisiting for a few reasons. I'll let AP set the stage:
The first 3:45 is just background stuff, so feel free to skip it, and (b) the rest of it represents quite possibly the most sustained bout of skepticism on cable TV towards an Obama mouthpiece that Team Hopenchange has had to endure in four years. If you can’t watch it all, just watch Burton for two or three minutes starting at 4:15.
The Obama campaign has been shamelessly lying its collective ass off about this ad, so why not allow Obama's SuperPAC mouthpiece to insult your intelligence for a few minutes? This is surreal:
Obama's Super PAC Founder: Our Ad In No Way Suggests Romney Responsible For Woman's Cancer
I could barely stomach this clip, to be honest, but I'm glad I persevered because we learned a thing or two during the interview: (1) Some MSM figures can at least feign genuine disgust with the HopenChange Brigade. All three CNN correspondents seemed truly put off by the stench of what Burton was shoveling. (2) Obama's SuperPAC is so proud of the ad that they're airing it in swing states, as part of a $20 million buy. (3) This spot is merely one in "a series of ads," meaning that the worst may still be yet to come. (4) Obamaworld not only has no regard for the truth, they also harbor precious little respect for your intelligence. It was astounding to watch Burton claim that this ad in no way attempts to link Romney to this woman's death. That "reality," Burton helpfully explained, is "clearly lost on some folks." And by "some folks" he means "every single person who isn't a paid hack." Go back and watch the clip. The whole point is to tie Romney to this tragedy and heavily imply that he was responsible by obscuring the timeline. Burton insists that the timeline isn't pertinent. The man's sleaze virtually drips off the screen with every word, especially when he openly laughs at the CNN crew for pointing out the obvious. Allahpundit notices that without the disgusting implication of Romney's culpability in Mrs. Soptic's demise, the ad has...no point at all:
The amazing thing is that the spot is completely devoid of any actual point or argument. The closest it comes is suggesting that layoffs are always unconscionable because people depend on the insurance they get from their jobs. But Burton can’t argue that; Obama has enough problems with business that he can’t afford to flirt with “only monsters lay people off” demagoguery. So he’s left here arguing … nothing. Really.
Let's recap: The Obama campaign knows nothing about a man whose personal story they've recounted in their own ads and featured on a conference call. Also, a commercial clearly designed to link Romney to a woman's cancer-related death through grotesque innuendo was actually doing nothing of the sort, despite what the pro-Rommey paranoiacs at CNN and MSNBC (!) seem to think. These people continue to out-do themselves. Three parting thoughts:
(1) Since Burton still remains deliberately unfamiliar with Romney's effective departure date from Bain Capital (February 1999, according to everyone except Obamaphiles), how would he explain the fact that Soptic's layoff -- which was delayed by eight years by Bain's attempt to save the failing company -- occurred when a top Obama donor was actively managing the company? Since Jonahthan Lavine closed the GST factory, made money for himself, then donated to Barack Obama years later, is Obama complicit in Soptic's wife's death via the blood money, or whatever? Oh right, I forgot. They're not blaming anyone for that tragedy. They're just describing it in excriciating (and incomplete) detail in a television ad, the entire purpose of which is to attack Romney. My mistake.
(2) In the original ad, Soptic says he believes Romney "isn't concerned" about the pain he, ahem, "caused" -- including the death of Soptic's wife, which was the theme of the ad. Even if you take Burton at his word that Priorities USA had no intention of tying Romney to her death (and I absolutely do not), isn't the assertion that Romney doesn't even care about that tragic outcome complete conjecture? This is vile.
(3) The top three arguments Democrats have advanced against Mitt Romney over the last few months are that he outsourced American jobs at Bain Capital ("no evidence" - FactCheck.org), that he's a tax cheat ("Four Pinocchios" - Washington Post), and that his heartless actions led to a poor woman's death ("outrageous" - CNN). As the links demonstrate, each one of these attacks has been a wholly inaccurate smears. Since they continue to lie, why should any voter believe a word Team Obama says about anything -- and isn't the fact that they're forced to invent these smears evidence of Romney's laudable character and actual record?
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Obama Knocks Republican Super PACs in Colorado(video at link)
The Weekly Standard ^ | AUG 9, 2012 | DANIEL HALPER
Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2012 1:40:28 PM by barmag25
As the super PAC aligned with Barack Obama is coming under fire for suggesting Mitt Romney might have been responsible for a woman dying of cancer, President Obama knocked Republican super PACs in a speech today in Colorado:
"Now, I have to tell you that we have less than three months left in the election," Obama said. "Less than three months. Time's flying. and over the next three months, you will see more negative ads, more money spent than you have ever seen in your life. I mean, these super PACs, and these guys are writing $10 million checks and giving them to Mr. Romney's supporters, and -- basically, they have all the same argument. They all say the same thing. They say that the economy is bad and it is Obama's fault. now, let me tell you something. every ad is the same argument."
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LMFAO!!!!!!!
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end the superPACs.
just end them. they nearly destroyed romney in the primaries, and now the candidates wreck each other with them.
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end the superPACs.
just end them. they nearly destroyed romney in the primaries, and now the candidates wreck each other with them.
Should we end union donations?
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Dishonorable and dishonest.
Romney asks where 'hope and change' went amid furor over ad, Obama aides' response
Published August 09, 2012
FoxNews.com
Mitt Romney asked Thursday where all the "hope and change" has gone, as President Obama's supporters pressed ahead with plans to air a misleading TV ad and a top campaign aide was accused of "lying" about her knowledge of its contents.
The Republican presidential candidate, in his most forceful comments to date, suggested Obama's supporters should be "embarrassed" over the super PAC ad that ties him to a woman's death from cancer. But he wasn't holding out hope that the group would pull it down, after the Democratic operative behind the ad claimed it'll be airing soon in battleground states despite the furor.
"You know, in the past when somebody pointed out that something was inaccurate campaigns either pulled the ad - they were embarrassed," Romney said on Bill Bennett's "Morning in America" radio show. "Today, they just blast ahead."
The Obama campaign has faced mounting criticism over the ad not just from Romney but independent fact-checkers, though the ad was produced by the purportedly independent super PAC Priorities USA.
Further, Obama Deputy Campaign Manager Stephanie Cutter is now being accused by the Romney campaign of lying over what she knew about the man at the center of that ad.
Cutter appeared on CNN Wednesday morning to say, among other things, that "I don't know the facts" about the case of Joe Soptic, the steelworker who appeared in the video. In the ad, Soptic, recounts how his wife died of cancer after he lost his health insurance when his plant was shuttered after a takeover by Bain Capital and other companies working with the private equity firm.
Cutter said she didn't know when Soptic's wife fell ill, or about his health insurance.
Yet in May, Cutter herself hosted a conference call in which Soptic detailed his case to reporters. During the call, as he did in the ad, Soptic explained how his wife fell ill after he lost his job, and how he lost his health insurance. The call took place as Soptic began appearing in Obama campaign ads, and was featured in a profile on the Obama campaign website.
The Obama campaign has acknowledged that conference call, but has not responded directly to allegations that anyone lied.
Cutter wasn't the only Obama campaign official caught up in the controversy.
"I certainly don't know the specifics of this man's case," campaign adviser Robert Gibbs said on MSNBC.
Campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters "we don't have any knowledge of the story of the family."
Meanwhile, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney claimed he hadn't seen the ad, though it had already gotten heavy media coverage by that point.
Former New Hampshire Gov. John Sununu, a top Romney surrogate, told Fox News that while the super PAC is defending the ad's accuracy, "the lie is in the omissions."
The ad did not reveal key details about the timeline of Soptic's case. First, Soptic's wife initially had her own health insurance after her husband lost his job. Second, Soptic's wife died in 2006, five years after her husband's company, GST, filed for bankruptcy. And long after Romney had left Bain Capital.
Sununu blasted Obama aides for denying knowledge of the case.
"First of all they craft a despicable ad full of lies," Sununu said. "And then Stephanie Cutter and Robert Gibbs and Jay Carney lie to the press that they didn't know anything that was in that ad."
Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt stressed Wednesday, in response to the criticism, that "we can't coordinate with super PACs and didn't produce" the ad.
"Joe Soptic suffered when he lost his job in the aftermath of the GST Steel plant closing, and no one is denying that he discussed that when he appeared in a campaign advertisement and on a conference call. The important point here is that Mitt Romney's campaign is based solely on his experience as a corporate buyout specialist, and while he has been quick to claim he created jobs, he refuses to accept responsibility for the jobs that were lost and workers that were impacted," he said.
In an interview with CNN late Wednesday, Priorities USA co-founder Bill Burton defended the ad and said it would be going up in battleground states across the country.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/09/romney-asks-where-hope-and-change-went-amid-furor-over-ad-obama-aides-response/
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http://www.creators.com/print/conservative/mona-charen/unfit-to-govern.html
We have reached a point in the 2012 campaign when you long for a referee — someone with a whistle to call foul and declare that one side has so discredited itself that it must forfeit points or be otherwise disqualified.
Nancy Pelosi, the leader who warned that we were losing "500 million jobs a month" without the stimulus bill and who said "God bless them" regarding Occupy Wall Street but condemned the tea party as "AstroTurf," has declared that the Republican Party supports E. coli. True, it's not news when Pelosi mangles the facts. But until her colleagues demote her, she remains the leader of House Democrats. Speaking at a fundraiser, she described the Republican Party as follows: "It's an ideology. We shouldn't have a government role. So reduce the police, the fire, the teachers — reduce their role." As a mother, she continued, "You could depend on the government for one thing — it was about, you had to be able to trust the water that our kids drank and the food that they ate. But this is the E. coli club. They do not want to spend money to do that."
In an ideal world, a loud buzzer would issue from the heavens. Foul! The Democrats have presided over an expansion of the welfare state to the point where 1 in 3 American households now receive some form of welfare. That's 100 million Americans receiving benefits — excluding those receiving Social Security, Medicare and the Earned Income Tax Credit. Yet to suggest that the federal government must reduce the rate of increase in federal spending — or even to cut back to the comparatively sane levels of spending that prevailed under Bill Clinton and George W. Bush — is to be the party of E. coli. Maybe Pelosi should stick to theology. She once explained that the Catholic Church didn't oppose abortion.
Don't look to the other body for relief. The Senate majority leader, who holds a post usually associated with at least a minimal level of dignity, has descended into outright McCarthyism — claiming that "the word is out" that Mitt Romney hadn't paid taxes in 10 years. How did the "word" get out? Some anonymous caller supposedly told it to Harry Reid. Where's that buzzer? An equivalent accusation would be for John Boehner to announce that "the word is out" that Barack Obama quietly and illegally gutted the work requirements in the welfare reform law passed in 1996. Oh, wait ...
Now, an Obama Super PAC, Priorities USA, has issued an ad that is so cartoonish that it seems to have come straight from The Onion. A former employee of GST Steel, Joe Soptic, accuses Mitt Romney of closing the plant. Actually, the plant was shut down two years after Romney left Bain. Soptic then relates that his wife became ill, but because he had lost his health coverage due to the plant closing, she couldn't afford health coverage and died of cancer. Not quite. The plant closed in 2001. She died in 2006. Ranae Soptic didn't lose health coverage because of what happened to her husband. She was covered by her own employer, until an injury caused her to lose her job. The ad closes with Soptic saying, "I do not think Mitt Romney realizes what he's done to anyone, and furthermore I do not think Mitt Romney is concerned." Buzz.
As CNN and others have noted, Soptic has cooperated with the Obama campaign before and appeared in an Obama ad back in May — though, oddly, Obama campaign advisor Robert Gibbs insists that he "doesn't know the specifics of this woman's case." Bain bought the troubled steel company, couldn't revive it and closed it. It's possible that if Bain hadn't invested in the company, it would have closed in 1993 instead of 2001. It's possible that even if Ranae Soptic's cancer had been detected earlier, she would have died anyway. It's possible that Joe Soptic might have contracted cancer if the plant had remained open, leaving his wife a widow. Who knows? The beat of a butterfly's wings in Bolivia supposedly can cause a thunderstorm in Bangor. But never let a misfortune go to waste when you can accuse your opponent of murder.
This has become the season of Democrat disgrace. Beyond running the dirtiest, emptiest and most deceptive campaign in memory, the party has demonstrated a total incapacity to govern. The Democrat-controlled Senate has not passed a budget — the sine qua non of governing — in more than three years. Under Reid's leadership, no budget resolution has even been brought to the floor. The federal debt, under Barack Obama, has increased by more than $5 trillion in less than four years. The economy is stalled. After saying (in a nonelection year) that he lacked the power unilaterally to alter immigration laws, the president did exactly that. The administration was so heedless of national security in its haste to laud Obama's accomplishments that even the usually phlegmatic former Obama administration secretary of defense, Robert Gates, felt obliged to tell the president's national security advisor to "shut the f—- up."
There is no cosmic buzzer. It's all up to us voters.
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Obama Bringing Chicago-Style Politics to Election Season
New American ^ | 8-9-12 | Jack Kerwick, Ph.D.
Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2012
It would seem that all of the optimistic talk of “hope” and “change” that marked President Obama’s campaign of four years ago is now ancient history. This election season, as the Obama administration forecasted prior to the completion of the GOP primaries, would be full of nit and grit. As the most recent Obama super PAC ad makes abundantly clear, the president is making good on his word.
Priorities USA Action produced an ad — “Understands” is its title — that implicates Mitt Romney in the death of the wife of a steelworker whose Kansas City plant — GST Steel — was closed down by Bain Capital while Romney presided over its affairs.
The ad begins with these words: “Mitt Romney and Bain Capital made millions for themselves and then closed this steel plant.” Immediately thereafter, steelworker Joe Soptic explains that it was precisely because his place of employment ceased to operate that he could no longer afford the health insurance necessary to pay the medical expenses of his cancer-stricken wife. “I do not think Mitt Romney realizes what he’s done to anyone,” Soptic says. “Furthermore, I do not think that Mitt Romney is concerned.”
In spite of the fact that Romney’s campaign spokesperson, Andrea Saul, characterized the ad as “despicable,” Obama refuses to repudiate it. Moreover, Bill Burton — a one-time White House aide to the president and a co-founder of Priorities USA Action, stood by the ad.
However effective the ad may be is anyone’s guess. But luckily for the Obama campaign, effectiveness rarely depends on accuracy.
Bain Capital took over GST Steel in 1993. In 2001, Soptic’s employer went out of business. For two reasons, these dates are highly relevant vis-à-vis Mitt Romney. First, had Bain Capital, under Romney’s leadership, not assumed control of the steel plant when it did, it would have been all but a foregone conclusion that GST Steel would have shut down shop at a much earlier date. Being the immensely successful private equity firm that Romney helped it to become, Bain Capital would invest money only in those businesses that it was either trying to get off the ground, like Staples, say, or those that it was trying to save — like GST Steel. What this means is that it almost certain that Joe Soptic would have been out of a job much sooner than he was had it not been for Bain Capital coming to the rescue of the fledgling GST Steel.
Second, in 2001, when the steel plant actually closed, Romney had already been absent from Bain for two years. While being interviewed on Bill Bennett’s nationally syndicated radio talk show, Romney was not short on words when it came to his assailant. “I don’t know what happened to a campaign of hope and change,” he said to Bennett. “I thought he was a new kind of politician.”
Obama, Romney continued, persists in running ads that numerous fact-checking agencies repeatedly expose as inaccurate. This former Massachusetts governor does not exaggerate. Obama has chosen to make Bain Capital the centerpiece of his campaign against Romney, yet beginning back in May when the attacks began, the claims that he and his supporters have made in this regard have been exposed by disparate sources as baseless.
Even some of Obama’s supporters, like such prominent Democrats as Bill Clinton, Cory Booker, Ed Rendell, and Deval Patrick, to name but a few, have categorically repudiated the president’s strategy while defending both Bain and Romney’s record as its CEO.
Yet it hasn’t been only Obama’s supporters among politicians who have renounced his campaign against Bain and Romney. Democrat-friendly CNN, ABC, and The Washington Post are among the media agencies that have revealed Obama’s allegations to be without merit.
Despite Romney’s current air of incredulity regarding the decidedly negative approach of his rival’s campaign, this isn’t the first time that Obama has gone for the jugular veins of his opponents. Indeed, there really has never been a time when he hasn’t been willing to get down and dirty in order to achieve victory. Way back in 1996, in his first race for a Chicago Senate seat, Obama manipulated election rules to eliminate from the ballot three fellow Democrats who were running against him. All of the signatures that they had accumulated on voting petitions were effectively invalidated.
As Chicago Tribune columnist, John Kass, remarked in 2008: “That was Chicago politics.” Kass added: “Knock out your opposition, challenge their petitions, destroy your enemy, right? It is how Barack Obama destroyed his enemies back in 1996 that conflicts with his message [of “hope” and “change”] today.”
Kass also mentioned that while Obama “may have gotten his start registering thousands of voters” as a community organizer, “in that first race, he made sure that voters had just one choice.”
When Obama ran against Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary contest of 2008, who can forget how nasty that competition became? Even seasoned politician Bill Clinton cried foul, charging Obama and his cronies with “playing the race card on me.” Clinton said at the time: “I think that they played the race card on me. And we now know, from memos from the campaign and everything that they planned to do it all along.”
Nor was Obama’s campaign against John McCain for the presidency in 2008 devoid of its share of below-the-belt blows. Because of the injuries he sustained while being held captive for five years in a Vietnamese prisoner-of-war camp, McCain’s mobility was considerably restricted. Among the activities that he found it difficult to engage in was that of using a computer. But this didn’t stop Obama from running an ad mocking McCain for this handicap.
Obama also encouraged his supporters during a campaign speech in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to get aggressive with their political opponents. Referring to Republicans, Obama promised: “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”
McCain’s campaign spokesperson at the time, Tucker Bounds, quickly replied: “Barack Obama’s call for a ‘new politics’ is officially over. In just 24 hours, Barack Obama attacked one of America’s pioneering women CEO’s, rejected a series of joint bipartisan town halls, and said that if there’s a political knife fight, he’d bring a gun.”
Whether Romney is really surprised by Obama’s tactics is doubtful. One thing is for sure, however: If the president’s track record is any indication of the events to come, none of us should be surprised to see Chicago-style politics dominating this election season.
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ELECTION 2012
The cost of winning ugly
Pat Buchanan: 'Obama has steadily diminished both himself and the office he holds'
This week, the friends of Barack Obama introduced into the political battle of 2012 the moral equivalent of poison gas.
In an ad produced by the super PAC Priorities USA, Mitt Romney is charged with moral, if not material, complicity in the cancer death of the wife of a Missouri steelworker.
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Speaking straight into the camera, Joe Soptic, 62, charges Romney with coldly shutting down the plant where he worked and cutting off his health insurance. This, says Soptic, left his wife without insurance to pay for her care, until, falling ill, she went to a doctor, who discovered stage 4 cancer, which killed her in 22 days.
Soptic implies a causal connection between Romney’s decision to shut the plant and his wife’s death. The ad is a premeditated attempt to murder the reputation of Mitt Romney. And from start to finish, it is a deception.
The truth.
Mitt Romney gave up leadership of Bain Capital in 1999. The steel plant was closed in 2001. Soptic lost his health insurance, but his wife was still working and had hers. She lost her job and insurance in 2003. Her illness and cancer were discovered in 2006, when Romney was ending his fourth year as governor of Massachusetts.
Was this ad the work of a rogue super PAC over which the Obama campaign had no control? Did the White House denounce the ad as unethical and malicious and wash its hands of it?
By no means. The White House, through its cynical silence, has been complicit in this moral atrocity as it reaps the benefits of it.
As for Soptic, he has been a collaborator of the Obama campaign itself, featured in a campaign ad and a conference call with reporters last May. What this smells like is a secret handoff from the Obama campaign to the Obama super PAC, which would be a violation of law.
While many journalists have denounced the ad as duplicitous and slanderous, some have hailed it. Unconcerned with its falsity, they love its message. For it mirrors what they themselves think of Mitt.
One wonders: Has the president given any thought to how he is to unite and lead the country should he win, given the character of the campaign he and his team have waged?
For a year now, the daily picture of Barack Obama most of us see is of a president heading for his helicopter for yet another rally to denounce Republicans as tea-party obstructionists and Mitt Romney as an outsourcer and a tax dodger.
A week ago, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said that a confidant had informed him that Romney paid no income taxes for 10 years. Harry repeated this accusation on the floor.
Instead of denouncing this sleazy tactic – a charge with no substance and without an identifiable source – the Obama chorus echoed Harry: Show us the last 10 years of your tax returns.
Are these not the same politicians and media who denounced as vicious wackos any who dared to ask to see Obama’s birth certificate or the transcript from his college days at Columbia?
Assume, for the sake of argument, that these tactics work, that Obama wins re-election and that he and Harry hold the Senate.
How do they govern?
Mr. Hope and Change, the figure who once inspired millions, died a long time ago. In his stead stands a Chicago pol who barnstorms the country calling Republicans political lap dogs of millionaires and billionaires who refuse to pay their fair share of taxes.
In this campaign, Obama has steadily diminished both himself and the office he holds. Remarkable what a fear of defeat and a loss of power can do to a man.
How – after you stand cynically silent while your super PAC mongrels accused Romney of throwing the Soptic family out on the street, stripping them of health care and then letting the wife die of cancer – do you then reach out to your defeated rival?
The presidency is uniquely a place of moral leadership, said Harry Truman, a “bully pulpit,” said Theodore Roosevelt.
How, after the long, low and miserable campaign he and his crowd have conducted, does Obama ascend that pulpit again without being laughed at and hooted at until he stands down?
How does he resolve the fiscal crisis looming at year’s end?
Obama says he rather would not extend any of the Bush tax cuts than extend all of them. The Republican House will give him all or nothing. Yet if Obama wins and lets all of the tax cuts expire, he will need the cooperation of a Republican House and perhaps a Republican Senate to restore the cuts for those earning less than $200,000.
Obama will have to have the cooperation of a Republican House and perhaps a Republican Senate for any budget compromise to bring an end to his debilitating string of five straight trillion-dollar deficits.
Having accomplished nothing in the past two years, how would Obama accomplish anything in the next four after such a campaign?
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/09/Top-Dem-Demands-Obama-repudiate-Ad
Even many demos are sickened by what obama is doing.
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Obama camp acknowledges knowing man's story
By BYRON TAU |
8/9/12 4:06 PM EDT
Obama campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki acknowledged Thursday that the campaign was no longer pleading ignorance about the story of a man who has appeared in both a super PAC ad and a campaign ad.
"No one is denying he was in one of our campaign ads. He was on a conference call telling his story," Psaki told reporters on Air Force One.
Missouri steelworker Joe Soptic starred in an Obama campaign ad and participated in a conference call with the campaign in May, as POLITICO reported Wednesday. He resurfaced this week in a Priorities USA Action super PAC ad, charging that his wife died of cancer after Mitt Romney's former private equity firm laid him off.
Distancing themselves from the controversial ad, Obama campaign staffers initially denied knowledge of Soptic's story — despite the fact that he was in an Obama campaign ad.
Adviser Robert Gibbs said he didn’t know "specifics," while deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter said on CNN: “I don’t know the facts about when Mr. Soptic’s wife got sick or the facts about his health insurance."
And yesterday on Air Force One, Psaki said, "we don’t have any knowledge of the story of the family."
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/08/obama-camp-acknowledges-knowing-mans-story-131577.html
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‘Disgusting’ Pro-Obama Ad Criticized by Democrat (Lanny Davis condemns Mitt is murderer)
kvor ^ | aug 2012
Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2012 5:54:29
Priorities USA Action(WASHINGTON) -- Lanny Davis, a former top adviser to President Bill Clinton, today issued a scathing rebuke to a controversial new Democratic super PAC ad that ties Mitt Romney to a woman’s death from cancer.
“I’m pretty sad for our country that we have presidential candidates engaging in sophomoric — and that’s a compliment — sophomoric name calling,” Davis said in an interview on WMAL radio in Washington.
Davis says both Romney and Obama, and their supporters, have sponsored ads “that make us all want to take a shower.” But when it comes to the cancer ad, he said the pro-Obama super PAC Priorities USA Action has gone too far.
“Bill Burton needs to go back to ethics school,” Davis said of the group’s senior strategist, who is a former Obama White House spokesman. “He knows perfectly well that the ad is misleading and disgusting and he needs to apologize for it.”
The former Clinton aide, however, says Romney and his supporters “dumped garbage” into Iowa. Davis is particularly critical of a Romney TV ad that features Obama out-of-context, citing a quote from the 2008 campaign in which he referred to John McCain’s view of the economy.
“This is disgusting on both sides,” he said.
Davis said the president shouldn’t allow his supporters to suggest that Romney is in any way to blame for the woman’s death.
“President Obama owes it to the American people to repudiate this ad,” he said.
Obama campaign officials have refused to disavow the ad, claiming independence from the outside group and no knowledge of the woman’s story. Priorities USA strategists insist the ad is factually correct and will air as scheduled later this week.
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http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/08/morning-joe-slams-obama-camp-for-scam-131563.html?hp=l19
Even mika is disgusted by this shit.
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"...Soptic appearead in an Obama campaign ad in May, and Cutter hosted an Obama campaign conference call around that time in which Soptic told reporters the same story as the one featured in the Priorities USA ad. Obama campaign representatives did not respond to a request for comment regarding the discrepancy between Cutter and Psaki's statements and the May advertisement and conference call, and have yet to provide an explanation to the media."
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Obama campaign caught in lie over Joe Soptic, possible violation of law
The Examiner ^ | 8/10/2012 | Joe Newby
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012
The Obama campaign has been caught in a lie over Joe Soptic, the man in the now infamous "Romney killed my wife" ad put out by Priorities USA.
After the real timeline of events caused scrutiny of the PAC, the Obama re-election team claimed to have had no knowledge of Soptic's story.
Deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter told CNN she didn't know the facts behind Soptic's story.
“I don’t know the facts about when Mr. Soptic’s wife got sick or the facts about his health insurance,” she said.
Robert Gibbs echoed that sentiment when he told reporters on Air Force One that “we don’t have any knowledge of the story of the family.”
But an article posted Thursday at policymic.com says that Soptic was on a conference call with Cutter on May 4, 2012. ,,,,,
Cutter was originally scheduled to appear on ABC's "This Week," but Dana Loesch wrote that David Axelrod will go in her place "as it's likely Cutter would face too many question regarding her dishonesty on Soptic and the campaign's suspected coordination with Priorities USA, which seems ripe for an FEC investigation."
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If that guy thinks that Mitt Romney is responsible for the death of his wife because they had no health insurance and didn't get regular checkups to save money, then who is anyone to argue with him?? He wasn't compensated or anything and he's not going to get his wife back.
Its not nice to say but its a free country...just like those who say Obama was born in Kenya and is a communist and doesn't care about people.....that's politics
You're buying this BS. Romney was LONG GONE, when this plant closed. Plus, Bain kept this plant open YEARS LONGER than it should have been.
Your claim about compensation is also BS. The guy was offered a buyout BUT REFUSED TO TAKE IT.
And, to top it all off, his wife died FIVE YEARS after the plant closed and she already had insurance from her own job.
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end the superPACs.
just end them. they nearly destroyed romney in the primaries, and now the candidates wreck each other with them.
I say let them stay. The only reason Obama is whining about them is because his aren't generating as much cash as those of Romney are.
He had no problem with campaign money, when he reneged on his agreement with McCain, regarding campaign financing. Now, that he's hurting for cash (especially with the union coffers going bare), he wants to blubber about PACs.
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Romney first national political ad was a flat out lie
He can piss and moan all he wants but he set the tone for the election with his first ad
It's just more sauce for the gander
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/10/star_of_obama_super_pacs_cancer_ad_says_bain_offered_him_a_buyout.html
In a January 10, 2012 interview with Amy Goodman of "Democracy Now!" the anti-Romney steel plant employee revealed he was offered a buyout when Bain decided to close the plant. Joe Soptic, the employee, has been in the news as of late due to an ad he made for the Obama-backed Super PAC Priorities USA. In the ad, Mr. Soptic says his wife died of cancer because he was laid off and no longer had health insurance.
However, not mentioned in the ad is that his wife found out she had cancer nearly five years after his departure from the plant. She died 22 days after her diagnosis. Transcript below.
AMY GOODMAN: Joining us now from Kansas City is Joe Soptic, former steelworker at Worldwide Grinding Systems, who has lost his job after a declared bankruptcy under Bain’s control. He’s speaking to us from Kansas City’s PBS station KCPT. Joe, explain what happened.
JOE SOPTIC: Well, I guess the first thing I noticed after the company was bought out by GST, they became very union-non-friendly. I mean, they started looking for ways to eliminate jobs. In my case, in my department, they actually offered to buy our jobs out from underneath us. They cut back on safety equipment. You know, the working environment just wasn’t as good as it should be.
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wow misleading campaign ads, is this really something new :D :D
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everybody still love SuperPACs?
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everybody still love SuperPACs?
That is irrelvent. You think thugbama wouldnt have run this via another outlet?
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That is irrelvent. You think thugbama wouldnt have run this via another outlet?
Before superPacs, it was more transparent 527s that did this dirty work. We knew who they were, who donated, their coordination, etc. They couldn't get too dirty.
superPACs were created to allow a select few to donate huge amounts secretly to put lies out there.
SuperPACs are why mitt is in such shitty shape right now, 33. He had to continue past iowa/NH/SC for over a month, taking horrible extreme positions to fend off batshit santorum and newt... now moderates see those positions and shake their head... and when he gets to debates, you'll really see the damages that superPACs do. All those quotes will be in the form of questions. "Gov ROmney, on march 25th, you stated...."
oh brother, he's going to be doing that awkward fake laugh then trying to play nice on both sides of all of those controversial issues. Wait and see. That's where the true superPAC damage will be done, on the national stage.
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Before superPacs, it was more transparent 527s that did this dirty work. We knew who they were, who donated, their coordination, etc. They couldn't get too dirty.
superPACs were created to allow a select few to donate huge amounts secretly to put lies out there.
SuperPACs are why mitt is in such shitty shape right now, 33. He had to continue past iowa/NH/SC for over a month, taking horrible extreme positions to fend off batshit santorum and newt... now moderates see those positions and shake their head... and when he gets to debates, you'll really see the damages that superPACs do. All those quotes will be in the form of questions. "Gov ROmney, on march 25th, you stated...."
oh brother, he's going to be doing that awkward fake laugh then trying to play nice on both sides of all of those controversial issues. Wait and see. That's where the true superPAC damage will be done, on the national stage.
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This was done by Bill Burton, Gibbs former right hand man!
why do you have to keep making up bullshit to defend this fraud?
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but it's legal. superpacs made a lot of shady shit legal. they should be repealed.
you roll your eyes when you dont have arguments dude. my point is that superpacs suck.
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but it's legal. superpacs made a lot of shady shit legal. they should be repealed.
you roll your eyes when you dont have arguments dude. my point is that superpacs suck.
You don't have a point, you have kneepads. Burton worked for obama remember?
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You don't have a point, you have kneepads. Burton worked for obama remember?
i have a great point - i dont think i assigned repubs responsibility for creating super pacs, did i?
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New Romney ad slams Obama over Soptic attack; Update: “Real buy … swing states”
Hot Air.com ^ | August 10, 2012 | ED MORRISSEY
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012
It didn’t take long for Team Romney to go on offense over the despicable attack ad from Priorities USA Action that strongly implied that Mitt Romney was responsible for the death of a spouse laid off by GST — several years before her diagnosis, and long after Romney left Bain Capital’s active management. Today the Romney campaign released a new TV-ready ad that attacks Barack Obama for “scraping bottom” and asks, “What does it say about a president’s character that tries to use the tragedy of a woman’s death for political gain?”
The ad title is “America Deserves Better,” but it could be just as easily called “The Death of Hope and Change”:
America Deserves Better
It didn’t take long for Team Romney to go on offense over the despicable attack ad from Priorities USA Action that strongly implied that Mitt Romney was responsible for the death of a spouse laid off by GST — several years before her diagnosis, and long after Romney left Bain Capital’s active management. Today the Romney campaign released a new TV-ready ad that attacks Barack Obama for “scraping bottom” and asks, “What does it say about a president’s character that tries to use the tragedy of a woman’s death for political gain?”
The ad title is “America Deserves Better,” but it could be just as easily called “The Death of Hope and Change”:
There is actually another question asked in this ad: “What does it say about a president’s character when he had his campaign raise money for the ad then stood by as his top aides were caught lying about it?” Obama campaign spokesperson Stephanie Cutter, who tried claiming that she didn’t have any knowledge of Soptic’s details even though she had hosted a conference call introducing him to the media, has canceled an appearance this weekend on ABC’s This Week. So far she’s still working for the campaign, and even today, the White House and Barack Obama have refused to criticize the super-PAC ad, or the former Obama aides Bill Burton and Sean Sweeney who ran it. Mark Knoller reported on Twitter that Jay Carney still won’t talk about the ad:
Carney remains unwilling to offer WH comment on pro-Obama PAC ad attempting to link Romney to death of steelworker’s wife.
— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) August 10, 2012
Meanwhile, BuzzFeed reported a few minutes ago that Romney had an opportunity to run a similar ad against Mike Huckabee in 2008 — and vetoed it:
And while Romney has run his share of misleading commercials, to the bookThe Real Romney the candidate himself vetoed a negative ad that linked one of his primary opponents in 2008 to the death of a woman, seeing it as “desperate.”
It was October 2007 and Mike Huckabee was on the rise in Iowa, threatening Romney’s chances to win the state’s caucuses in January. Alex Castellanos, then the chief strategist for Romney’s campaign, suggested a harsh attack ad based on a a detail turned up in opposition research: Mike Huckabee had paroled a convicted rapist who, after his release, raped and murder a woman in 2003. …
Some in Romney’s circle feared the ad would backfire on them, and the final decision to run the ad was left to Romney himself. Romney thought the ad seemed “desperate” and “created sympathy for Huckabee.” In the end, Romney killed the ad.
In December, when Huckabee’s surge was finally realized, Romney ran a softer ad hitting Huckabee for paroling criminals, without mentioning the death of the woman post-parole.
My father likes to say, “Class will tell.” It certainly has in this case.
Update: A source close to the campaign tells me that this ad will be a “real buy” in swing states.
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‘Disgusting’ Pro-Obama Ad Criticized by Democrat (Lanny Davis condemns Mitt is murderer)
kvor ^ | aug 2012
Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2012 5:54:29
Priorities USA Action(WASHINGTON) -- Lanny Davis, a former top adviser to President Bill Clinton, today issued a scathing rebuke to a controversial new Democratic super PAC ad that ties Mitt Romney to a woman’s death from cancer.
“I’m pretty sad for our country that we have presidential candidates engaging in sophomoric — and that’s a compliment — sophomoric name calling,” Davis said in an interview on WMAL radio in Washington.
Davis says both Romney and Obama, and their supporters, have sponsored ads “that make us all want to take a shower.” But when it comes to the cancer ad, he said the pro-Obama super PAC Priorities USA Action has gone too far.
“Bill Burton needs to go back to ethics school,” Davis said of the group’s senior strategist, who is a former Obama White House spokesman. “He knows perfectly well that the ad is misleading and disgusting and he needs to apologize for it.”
The former Clinton aide, however, says Romney and his supporters “dumped garbage” into Iowa. Davis is particularly critical of a Romney TV ad that features Obama out-of-context, citing a quote from the 2008 campaign in which he referred to John McCain’s view of the economy.
“This is disgusting on both sides,” he said.
Davis said the president shouldn’t allow his supporters to suggest that Romney is in any way to blame for the woman’s death.
“President Obama owes it to the American people to repudiate this ad,” he said.
Obama campaign officials have refused to disavow the ad, claiming independence from the outside group and no knowledge of the woman’s story. Priorities USA strategists insist the ad is factually correct and will air as scheduled later this week.
Good for him, but he shouldn't hold his breath waiting for the president's apology.
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Good for him, but he shouldn't hold his breath waiting for the president's apology.
Obama has always been a gutter rat and chicago street maggot. Its only the delusional fools who buy into the media made fairy tale that he is some moderate center of road guy who buy into his con game.
Look at the idiots on this site? Seriously - despite 4 years of this crap - they are ready for four more years of this nonsense.
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Romney Ad Attacks Obama’s Character Over Cancer Ad
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | August 10, 2012 | Joel Gehrke
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 1:34:45 PM
Mitt Romney’s campaign released a television ad asking what it says about President Obama’s character that his super PAC released a video suggesting that Romney caused a woman to die of cancer.
“What does it say about a president’s character when his campaign tries to use the tragedy of a woman’s death for political gain?” the narrator in the Romney ad asks. The video features still shots of the Priorities USA Action ad and of campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki claiming that she “can’t speak” to the ad during a recent appearance on CNN.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/fox-legal-analyst-obama-staffer-may-have-violated-fec-regs-by-coordinating-attacks-in-anti-romney-ads
Lock her up
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Geeze Lousie. What a hack.
RSS Feed Wasserman Schultz: Doesn't know political affiliation of Priorities USA
By ANNA PALMER | 8/12/12
Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz on Sunday tried to distance the Obama campaign and the DNC from the super PAC Priorities USA, which has come into the political cross hairs over a negative ad attacking Republican Mitt Romney.
Wasserman Schultz said on "Fox News Sunday" that she has "no idea the political affiliation of folks who are associated" with Priorities USA. The super PAC was started by former Obama aides Bill Burton and Sean Sweeney and has gotten support from Obama administration officials who have attended fundraisers for the group.
"That is a super PAC ad that is not affiliated with the campaign or the party," Wasserman Schultz said. Still, she noted that there's "no question the ad raises facts such as that Mitt Romney when he was CEO of Bain Capital bankrupted companies, laid of workers, cut their benefits and made millions of dollars in profits. that ad points out there are consequences to making decisions like that impact people's lives in a significant way."
Wasserman Schultz further said that there is a double standard on political ads, noting that Republicans have questioned whether Obama is an American.
"There are so many questions about Barack Obama's patriotism and whether he is even an American. Where is the same indignation?" Wasserman Schultz asked.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79670.html
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The best part about this ad is that it's never been aired (to the best of my knowledge) yet Repubs are giving it hundreds of hours of free publicity by talking about it
Free Advertising for Obama courtesy of the Republicans
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Wasserman Schultz said on "Fox News Sunday" that she has "no idea the political affiliation of folks who are associated" with Priorities USA. The super PAC was started by former Obama aides Bill Burton and Sean Sweeney
By getbigger logic, Obama is Bush II. So woudn't an Obama superPAC be a neocon organization?
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Bill Burton - OWNED
What a disgrace.
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Bill Burton - OWNED
What a disgrace.
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An absolute disgrace. Romeny is right. This is gutter politics.