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....tomorrow at 9est. 87% says its Paul Ryan. And scumbag Obama will start once again with more lies.
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In a few posts, coach will have a:
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I hope it's Vince McMahon
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I hope it's Vince McMahon
Excellent idea!
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Good looking dude, consistent conservative, and this pick will certainly take everyone's attention away from Romney's recent self-destruction.
NORFOLK, Va. -– Mitt Romney will announce Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) as his running mate on Saturday, according to two sources with knowledge of the decision.
Ryan is a bold pick who will energize the Republican Party, but putting him on the ticket is fraught with risk and instantly puts Ryan's budget plan front and center in the 2012 campaign.
Romney will announce his choice in Norfolk on Saturday morning at the beginning of a four-day bus tour through key battleground states, the campaign said Friday night. The Weekly Standard reported earlier Friday that Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker has been asked to be ready to make the case for Ryan beginning Saturday.
Romney's alliance with the 42-year old Ryan has become the most dramatic development of the 2012 presidential campaign. Romney had been presumed for much of the last few months to be set on a safe pick, such as Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), or former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty.
But now, Romney, who is 23 years older than Ryan, will signal that he is willing to roll the dice. President Barack Obama's reelection campaign and Democratic political groups have been eager for Romney to pick Ryan, the architect of plans to slash government spending and overhaul entitlement programs that Democrats believe are political losers.
Both liberals and conservatives will be thrilled with Romney's choice.
Conservatives believe Ryan is one of the brightest, best young faces and minds who can cheerfully articulate a case for limited government while simultaneously arguing that a less expansive bureaucracy and a revamped entitlement system is the best way to preserve government aid and benefits for the poor, indigent and elderly.
Ryan's budget and his proposed changes to programs like Medicare will now be central issues that drive the presidential campaign for the remaining three months. It is one way for Romney to turn a campaign that has turned ugly and personal, often to his detriment, into a heated debate over policy.
The battle to define Ryan and his reform plan will set off a messaging war between Democrats and Republicans, the likes of which has rarely been seen.
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Lost my vote... ;D
Voted NO on funding for alternative sentencing instead of more prisons. (Jun 2000)
Rated -10 by NORML, indicating a "hard-on-drugs" stance. (Dec 2006)
Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
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Lost my vote... ;D
Voted NO on funding for alternative sentencing instead of more prisons. (Jun 2000)
Rated -10 by NORML, indicating a "hard-on-drugs" stance. (Dec 2006)
Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
Conservatives will LOVE the guy. He's consistent (something Romney is not).
Now, a lot of his positions (particularly the ones about cutting "entitlements"), I disagree with... I mean, a guy pays into social security for 30 years... he retires and wants his money. Paul Ryan wants to push back the age where a guy can get his own darn money back. To me, that's shaky as it gets - it's not welfare, it's the guy's own money, ya know?
But the big-name repubs didn't want the slot. Jeb declined. Romney knows how tough it is to beat an incumbent president, which is why heavy hitters like Jeb, Rubio, Christie, and a slew of others sat 2012 out. He's announcing the VP pick 2 wekes earlier than Mccain or Obama did... Because he just doesn't have any other options. He's getting destoryed by republican pundits on the far-right. "Romney is losing" came from Laura Ingraham and that top repub pundit Kris something yesterday. It's sinking quickly. Ann coulter destoryed him. Losing his base.
Ryan gives him back that base. he's good looking (women who vote based on looks). He's not going to sit well with moderates.
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Why would anyone vote for someone who has ears that big?
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Romney just lost all the senior citizen votes when he chose Paul Ryan.
Ryan is going to gut medicare and social security.
"Paul Ryan is laughable"= President Obama
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Paul Ryan it is
NORFOLK, Va.--Mitt Romney will name his vice presidential running mate on Saturday. According to a statement the campaign released late Friday, the presumptive Republican nominee will announce his running mate at an 8:45am rally here on the USS Wisconsin--the first stop of his four-day bus tour of key battleground states. The campaign offered no further details, and aides traveling with Ronney declined to comment.
But Republican sources told NBC News, the Huffington Post, the Associated Press and CNN that Romney is expected to name Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin--reports the campaign refused to confirm. In addition, ABC News's Jon Karl reported that former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, Ohio Sen. Rob Portman and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio--all of whom were said to be on Romney's short list--have all been told they are not the pick.
Soon after the Romney campaign announced the Saturday appearance, speculation about the VP pick began, with Romney's choice of venue for the announcement offering a potential clue.
The USS Wisconsin is the ship named after the home state of Ryan, the chairman of the House Budget Committee who has created buzz among conservatives recently. But the announcement also takes place in Virginia, whose governor, Bob McDonnell, has also been rumored as a possible vice presidential pick.
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Paul Ryan destroyed Ghettobama in this clip.
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Paul Ryan destroyed Ghettobama in this clip.
Obama aside...Is this duo one that you would support on any other election?
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Obama aside...Is this duo one that you would support on any other election?
I like Ryan way more than Romney.
Ryan is a Ayn Randian.
BTW - I would vote for son of Sam / Charles Manson over Obama.
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Ryan is shit.
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i dont trust that bible humper
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There goes you bunch of stupid fuckers again with Coach predictably leading the pack, thinking that your vote will make a difference, thinking that Romney will take the time to spit on you, thinking that any politician, regardless of affiliation are in it for 'the people' and not themselves.
Vote Romney, vote Obama, vote for fucking Putin if it leave you fuzzy inside thinking you've made any difference. After all, ignorance is bliss AND counted upon by these fame seeking politicos the great unwashed trust and idolise.
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There goes you bunch of stupid fuckers again with Coach predictably leading the pack, thinking that your vote will make a difference, thinking that Romney will take the time to spit on you, thinking that any politician, regardless of affiliation are in it for 'the people' and not themselves.
Vote Romney, vote Obama, vote for fucking Putin if it leave you fuzzy inside thinking you've made any difference. After all, ignorance is bliss AND counted upon by these fame seeking politicos the great unwashed trust and idolise.
LOL, where you've been stud? I missed your stories ;)
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Go Mitt-suro Okabu!
Not a really good candidate(Pr is bad) but one I dislike less.
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LOL, where you've been stud? I missed your stories ;)
Burger bar keeping me busy innit. I'll have new stories soon brah
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Jon Huntsman should be where Romney is now...
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Jon Huntsman should be where Romney is now...
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I like Ryan way more than Romney.
Ryan is a Ayn Randian.
BTW - I would vote for son of Sam / Charles Manson over Obama.
You should probably start a thread about that.
Fuck work.
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Ryan wants to cut the deficit = awesome.
How he wants to do it - not cool.
He wants to raise retirement age so we get our own $ back a few years later.
He wants to privitize social security. Think about what you'd be doing with broke-ass grampa living in your living room today if he had lost his entire retirement savings in the market crash of 2008. Think about that. CEOs got $30 golden parachutes, stockbrokers lost out. This part is a real fail.
he wants to do these things - while at the same time giving the super-wealthy several trillion in tax cuts. Scary.
I like Ryan - bright dude. He is, however, very much a servant to the super-rich. I dont know what i'll do with my parents, if social security is privitized, and the market takes another downward turn.
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Jon Huntsman should be where Romney is now...
You have got to be kidding.
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Ryan wants to cut the deficit = awesome.
How he wants to do it - not cool.
He wants to raise retirement age so we get our own $ back a few years later.
He wants to privitize social security. Think about what you'd be doing with broke-ass grampa living in your living room today if he had lost his entire retirement savings in the market crash of 2008. Think about that. CEOs got $30 golden parachutes, stockbrokers lost out. This part is a real fail.
he wants to do these things - while at the same time giving the super-wealthy several trillion in tax cuts. Scary.
I like Ryan - bright dude. He is, however, very much a servant to the super-rich. I dont know what i'll do with my parents, if social security is privitized, and the market takes another downward turn.
He should fit right in.
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Quote from: James28 on Today at 02:23:10 AM
this guy gets it
to the coach.
you do realize that mormons believe god had sex with your mom
and that if you have children of your own (I dunno if you do) then god
had sex with your wife. google spirit childs
please tell us how you feel about this. and then explain how money
is created in this country and what fractional reserve banking is.
no wait you have never answered these questions and still think the federal reserve is federal.
here ya go coach and for all god gobblers. a tribute to one of your heros
and another tribute courtesy of professionalblasphemers
fuck the pope (http://www.professionalblasphemers.com/main.html)
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Stupid ass people complaining about the rich as if you'd wouldn't want to be one of them. More lies.
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Stupid ass people complaining about the rich as if you'd wouldn't want to be one of them. More lies.
like me some of us are actually ok with our standing in the world.
hey coach my buds at professionalblasphemers have just offered for free your very
own page for you including your business. just like this one of your mentor and idol rush limpballs.
waddya say.
fuck rush limbaugh (http://www.professionalblasphemers.com/fuck-you-rush-limbaugh/)
top 20 in google guaranteed like this http://www.google.com/#q=fuck+you+rush+limbaugh&hl=en&pws=0&prmd=imvnso&ei=6E8mUIjmJqrp6wGUnoG4BQ&start=10&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=6fc2be3d81197ff1&biw=1280&bih=873
just think how cool everyone will think you are.
or not
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He should fit right in.
LOL - Obama is any different? He just dropped all charges vs Goldman Sachs!
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Nothing is more laff-able than this ass-clown.
To the guy in the wheel-chair.. "C'mon, stand-up"!! What a Loser...
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LOL at the ignorant Obama drones and cult members attacking Ryan on Medicare. It was Obama who cut 500 Billion out of Medicare to get ObamaCare through to pay for the deadbeats.
more Obama bs from his ignorant base of lemmings, dupes, communists, gays, welfare brats, etc.
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I like Paul Ryan...it's a smart choice because it puts pressure on Obama to defend the upper Midwest states that he needs to carry like WI, MN and perhaps MI (the upper pennisula is almost more WI than MI). So far as social security goes...WAKE UP. We have to fix that ponzi scheme before it destroys us fiscally. You're going to have to pick one of four choices...probably more than one eventually...raise taxes, cut benefits, delay benefits or allow people to make investment choices that have a greater return. I thinkthe latter two make the most sense.
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i’ve been both a democrat and republican. both parties came out of the same corrupt, intolerant, knee-jerking, money-grubbing, power-addicted, arrogant ooze.
voters have no right to complain
I support and advocate for the zeitgeistmovement (http://thezeitgeistmovement.com/)
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Unlike pail or rubio - Paul Ryan is polished, experienced and prepared. He could be 1st on thsi ticket and nobody would be complaining. Smart guy.
I jsut disagree with giving trillions in tax cuts to super wealthy while at same time raising retirement age. That money belongs to the people who worked 40 years for it. Not right to say "sorry, you're not ENTITLED to your own money".
But they're avoiding that paul ryan plan on the romney/ryan website so far. Good call. He is prepared for the job, no doubt.
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I like Ryan way more than Romney.
Ryan is a Ayn Randian.
BTW - I would vote for son of Sam / Charles Manson over Obama.
You are such a racist twat. You've never even read Ayn Rand, so don't pretend like you know what her political philosophy was.
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i’ve been both a democrat and republican. both parties came out of the same corrupt, intolerant, knee-jerking, money-grubbing, power-addicted, arrogant ooze.
voters have no right to complain
I support and advocate for the zeitgeistmovement (http://thezeitgeistmovement.com/)
Carlin sums it up better than anyone. Gotta laugh at 33 going on and on about Obama, as it anything will change if Romney gets in. Oh, yeah one thing will change, he'll move the american embassy to Jerusalem. Yes, let's give the Arabs another reason to hate the US. America has been on a downslide for a lot of years and it makes no difference who is at the helm.
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Honestly a very strong choice. Ryan is attractive to independents because of his focus on budgetary and deficit issues and the base like him too. Ryan is known as very intelligent, even by the folks in congress that disagree with him. I can't stand the negative emotional ads that have come out of the Obama campaign recently, hopefully we can re-focus on economic and job issues now. Regardless if you like Ryan's budget plan, at least he is putting forth solid ideas to debate and brave enough to wade into entitlement reform...which is the largest driver of our debt. This administration has avoided any reform to entitlements, though medical and social security will fail in its current structure.
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I wouldn't mind seeing the ticket reversed though...Ryan is that strong.
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I wouldn't mind seeing the ticket reversed though...Ryan is that strong.
Disappointed man.
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Carlin sums it up better than anyone. Gotta laugh at 33 going on and on about Obama, as it anything will change if Romney gets in. Oh, yeah one thing will change, he'll move the american embassy to Jerusalem. Yes, let's give the Arabs another reason to hate the US. America has been on a downslide for a lot of years and it makes no difference who is at the helm.
Anyone in business , myself, my clients, their clients, their clients clients, are desperate for having a change just if we can get someone not actively attacking business at all junctures.
This economy will not even begin to improve until and unless we remove the malignant tumor at 1600 PA Ave.
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Lost my vote... ;D
Voted NO on funding for alternative sentencing instead of more prisons. (Jun 2000)
Rated -10 by NORML, indicating a "hard-on-drugs" stance. (Dec 2006)
Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
The fact that he voted no on human embryonic stem cell research makes me hate him. His religious views are halting scientific progress. FILT!
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i dont trust that bible humper
Exactly. NEVER EVER trust a politician who is a bible humper and tries to change laws based on his religious convictions.
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The fact that he voted no on human embryonic stem cell research makes me hate him. His religious views are halting scientific progress. FILT!
If embryonic stem cells are truly promising...private sector money will fund the research. I see nothing wrong with the moral views of a substantial number of taxpayers being a part of the debate re government spending.
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The fact that he voted no on human embryonic stem cell research makes me hate him. His religious views are halting scientific progress. FILT!
If he is pro steroids I will change my opinion of him. ;D
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If embryonic stem cells are truly promising...private sector money will fund the research. I see nothing wrong with the moral views of a substantial number of taxpayers being a part of the debate re government spending.
I do, especially when it is a politician. You're supposed to do what is best OVERALL for your country, not do what is in accordance with your biblical beliefs. Most republican/conservative politicians do what is in accordance with their biblical beliefs, not what is best overall for the people. How can you see that as a good thing? ::) ::)
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I do, especially when it is a politician. You're supposed to do what is best OVERALL for your country, not do what is in accordance with your biblical beliefs. Most republican/conservative politicians do what is in accordance with their biblical beliefs, not what is best overall for the people. How can you see that as a good thing? ::) ::)
And you think obama is doing what is best for america with his horrible economic and energy policies?
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Anyone in business , myself, my clients, their clients, their clients clients, are desperate for having a change just if we can get someone not actively attacking business at all junctures.
This economy will not even begin to improve until and unless we remove the malignant tumor at 1600 PA Ave.
What businesses do you think are suffering?? From banking to the oil industry, retail chains etc. are making record profits and holding on to more cash than at any time in history. They have learned to do so with less people and by reinvesting less. All those crying about jobs and the economy better get used to the way things are now because this is going to be the new normal. Mitt ain't going to do nothing about creating more jobs.
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I do, especially when it is a politician. You're supposed to do what is best OVERALL for your country, not do what is in accordance with your biblical beliefs. Most republican/conservative politicians do what is in accordance with their biblical beliefs, not what is best overall for the people. How can you see that as a good thing? ::) ::)
But it's not just "his beliefs"...it's a set of beliefs shared by many people. Some oppose embryonic stem cell research on moral grounds, others for fiscal reasons. Why shouldn't their voices be a part of the debate? And why should he pretend that his religious beliefs don't play a part in his moral compass? Why should he repudiate those beliefs....because they make you uncomfortable? Because they aren't shared by everyone? Good fucking luck finding a system of governance that by rule excludes every belief system that isn't somehow shared by everyone.
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But it's not just "his beliefs"...it's a set of beliefs shared by many people. Some oppose embryonic stem cell research on moral grounds, others for fiscal reasons. Why shouldn't their voices be a part of the debate? And why should he pretend that his religious beliefs don't play a part in his moral compass? Why should he repudiate those beliefs....because they make you uncomfortable? Because they aren't shared by everyone? Good fucking luck finding a system of governance that by rule excludes every belief system that isn't somehow shared by everyone.
Not the people. The people can vote for a politician and believe whatever they want to believe. I am saying a politician. NOT the people. A politician should try to be as objective as possible. Clearly, these bible thumpers are not objective in any way, shape or form.
Naturally, a politicians beliefs are going to influence him somewhat. However, they dont even attempt to strike a balance between their beliefs and objectivity. This is no good.
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And you think obama is doing what is best for america with his horrible economic and energy policies?
Of course not. And you will have noticed in previous debates I have stated that I think all politicians are crooks and don't care for the people. Only care about themselves and their pockets.
I chose to speak about embryonic cell research because I consider myself a scientific person, and republicans/conservatives do not seem to be the most friendly people toward science or scientific endeavors. Thus, I chose to specifically talk about that topic. This doesn't mean I think Obama is doing what's best for America either.
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Of course not. And you will have noticed in previous debates I have stated that I think all politicians are crooks and don't care for the people. Only care about themselves and their pockets.
I chose to speak about embryonic cell research because I consider myself a scientific person, and republicans/conservatives do not seem to be the most friendly people toward science or scientific endeavors. Thus, I chose to specifically talk about that topic. This doesn't mean I think Obama is doing what's best for America either.
I have no expectations for Romney /Ryan but i know staying with obama / biden is not going to do anything.
So my vote is based on the small chance they will be better since obama is a proven failure no matter what the makeup of congress is.
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Not the people. The people can vote for a politician and believe whatever they want to believe. I am saying a politician. NOT the people. A politician should try to be as objective as possible. Clearly, these bible thumpers are not objective in any way, shape or form.
Naturally, a politicians beliefs are going to influence him somewhat. However, they dont even attempt to strike a balance between their beliefs and objectivity. This is no good.
Oh..they're not objective because they don't agree with you? And politicians are elected to represent the interests of the people...they should be expected to consider those people when voting. The fact of the mtter is...there is a large percentage of the population that views human embryos as people. I will tell you this...when I saw the first ultrasound of my daughter 10 years ago, she became my daughter. I still see those miniscule limbs flapping around...I see them today when I watch her run. I had no more right to claim her life for science then than I do now. I would not favor my tax dollars being used to fund research that ends human life at any stage. I am not alone and I am grateful that there are politicians willing to represent my views.
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Oh..they're not objective because they don't agree with you? And politicians are elected to represent the interests of the people...they should be expected to consider those people when voting. The fact of the mtter is...there is a large percentage of the population that views human embryos as people. I will tell you this...when I saw the first ultrasound of my daughter 10 years ago, she became my daughter. I still see those miniscule limbs flapping around...I see them today when I watch her run. I had no more right to claim her life for science then than I do now. I would not favor my tax dollars being used to fund research that ends human life at any stage. I am not alone and I am grateful that there are politicians willing to represent my views.
Yes, but embryonic cell research will help scientific endeavors and the US progress as a nation. This is why the US will eventually take a backseat to so many countries because so many of the bible thumpers are stopping things like embryonic cell research. They don't do whats good for America, only whats good for the bible thumpers. I am not saying they have to appease me on EVERY topic, but sometimes you need to put your religious beliefs aside and do whats for the greater good. Clearly their religious beliefs forbade this. This is not good.
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I have no expectations for Romney /Ryan but i know staying with obama / biden is not going to do anything.
So my vote is based on the small chance they will be better since obama is a proven failure no matter what the makeup of congress is.
So, youre saying that we are basically screwed either way? lol :)
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So, youre saying that we are basically screwed either way? lol :)
With Obama 100% of failure
With Romney /Ryan - 75% - 100% of failure
Im voting for them based on that 25%.
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Yes, but embryonic cell research will help scientific endeavors and the US progress as a nation. This is why the US will eventually take a backseat to so many countries because so many of the bible thumpers are stopping things like embryonic cell research. They don't do whats good for America, only whats good for the bible thumpers. I am not saying they have to appease me on EVERY topic, but sometimes you need to put your religious beliefs aside and do whats for the greater good. Clearly their religious beliefs forbade this. This is not good.
Again...you are asking to accept that harvesting human lives for science is the greater good. I disagree. You are asking me to accept the notion that science trumps morality and that morality, be it personal or collective, should be set aside in favor of someone else's moral judgement. I disagree. You think that...for whatever reason...your scientific interest should hold sway over my moral objections when it comes to the expenditure of federal money. I disagree.
If the science truly is there...fund it privately. I would be truly saddened and morally repulsed if a woman were to sell an embryo she is carrying to a lab so they can harvest it...but that's her right.
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Again...you are asking to accept that harvesting human lives for science is the greater good. I disagree. You are asking me to accept the notion that science trumps morality and that morality, be it personal or collective, should be set aside in favor of someone else's moral judgement. I disagree. You think that...for whatever reason...your scientific interest should hold sway over my moral objections when it comes to the expenditure of federal money. I disagree.
If the science truly is there...fund it privately. I would be truly saddened and morally repulsed if a woman were to sell an embryo she is carrying to a lab so they can harvest it...but that's her right.
That's fine, but there are A LOT of other issues that are determined based on someones religious convictions. With bible thumpers, you cant even debate with them. If it goes against the bible, that is all that matters. Even if there was an issue that would promote this country, but it went against the bible, it would be shot down. This is not good. You cant run a country based on the bible. And what logical person would want to elect someone who would.
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With Obama 100% of failure
With Romney /Ryan - 75% - 100% of failure
Im voting for them based on that 25%.
Again, youre basically saying we are fucked. Youre just choosing the lesser of the 2 evils.
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That's fine, but there are A LOT of other issues that are determined based on someones religious convictions. With bible thumpers, you cant even debate with them. If it goes against the bible, that is all that matters. Even if there was an issue that would promote this country, but it went against the bible, it would be shot down. This is not good. You cant run a country based on the bible. And what logical person would want to elect someone who would.
You can't run one based on the communist manifesto or rules for radicals either.
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You can't run one based on the communist manifesto or rules for radicals either.
I agree. As I have said, there needs to be a balance between ones beliefs and a more objective standard. Looking at the big picture.
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Again, youre basically saying we are fucked. Youre just choosing the lesser of the 2 evils.
Its always that way
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Its always that way
Its a pretty sad state of affairs then :-\ :-\
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Its a pretty sad state of affairs then :-\ :-\
True - but some of us are long past the expectation of it being otherwise.
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That's fine, but there are A LOT of other issues that are determined based on someones religious convictions. With bible thumpers, you cant even debate with them. If it goes against the bible, that is all that matters. Even if there was an issue that would promote this country, but it went against the bible, it would be shot down. This is not good. You cant run a country based on the bible. And what logical person would want to elect someone who would.
You're attempting to get me to agree with notion that Ryan's voting record is akin to establishing a theocracy...I don't agree with that. I think he's voting in line with a moral compass that is to some extent...and I'm not in his head so I don't know to what extent...guided by his religious views. I encourage any and all politicians to do the same...by they muslin, jew, christian atheist whatever. State your beliefs and act on them...be honest and we'll be the better for it as a society. I have yet to see ANY credible candidate for public office point to the bible over the constitution as the blueprint for our governance.
So I think you're overstating your case...by a lot.
You seem to have an issue with people seeking guidance from the bible..I personally don't do that, but I'm not going to judge others for doing so. It's their life.
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What businesses do you think are suffering?? From banking to the oil industry, retail chains etc. are making record profits and holding on to more cash than at any time in history. They have learned to do so with less people and by reinvesting less. All those crying about jobs and the economy better get used to the way things are now because this is going to be the new normal. Mitt ain't going to do nothing about creating more jobs.
This is completely incorrect.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/27/business/global/royal-dutch-shell-earnings-tumble-13-in-first-quarter.htmlhttp://news.yahoo.com/analyst-view-citigroup-earnings-fall-legacy-assets-weaken-130351494--sector.html
Retail is better off then before but certainly no record profits. Energy companies and banks are certainly not posting record profits.
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There goes you bunch of stupid fuckers again with Coach predictably leading the pack, thinking that your vote will make a difference, thinking that Romney will take the time to spit on you, thinking that any politician, regardless of affiliation are in it for 'the people' and not themselves.
Vote Romney, vote Obama, vote for fucking Putin if it leave you fuzzy inside thinking you've made any difference. After all, ignorance is bliss AND counted upon by these fame seeking politicos the great unwashed trust and idolise.
X2. All politicians are whores and will bend over for the greatest paying "johns".
Vaseline and KY should be their biggest endorsers.
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You're attempting to get me to agree with notion that Ryan's voting record is akin to establishing a theocracy...I don't agree with that. I think he's voting in line with a moral compass that is to some extent...and I'm not in his head so I don't know to what extent...guided by his religious views. I encourage any and all politicians to do the same...by they muslin, jew, christian atheist whatever. State your beliefs and act on them...be honest and we'll be the better for it as a society. I have yet to see ANY credible candidate for public office point to the bible over the constitution as the blueprint for our governance.
So I think you're overstating your case...by a lot.
You seem to have an issue with people seeking guidance from the bible..I personally don't do that, but I'm not going to judge others for doing so. It's their life.
No, I dont judge people who seek guidance from the bible. I judge politicians who try to pass laws based on their religious beliefs that then impinge on the rights of others who may not have similar religious convictions. Now this can obviously apply to religious or non religious politicians. However, with religious politicians, there isn't even a balance. Its the bible or nothing else.
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X2. All politicians are whores and will bend over for the greatest paying "johns".
Vaseline and KY should be their biggest endorsers.
x3. Ive said this before. Politicians couldnt careless for the american people.
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x3. Ive said this before. Politicians couldnt careless for the american people.
Exactly! while these idiots squabble over which party is hurting the people it's both who are in the back pockets of the corporations and both who are screwing the people over in grand fashion.
Dems/GOP = cut from the same cloth
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Exactly! while these idiots squabble over which party is hurting the people it's both who are in the back pockets of the corporations and both who are screwing the people over in grand fashion.
Dems/GOP = cut from the same cloth
Yup. There are probably a handful of major corporations that run this world. Politicians are in their back pockets, repubs and dems.
Coach is too stupid to realize this.
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No, I dont judge people who seek guidance from the bible. I judge politicians who try to pass laws based on their religious beliefs that then impinge on the rights of others who may not have similar religious convictions. Now this can obviously apply to religious or non religious politicians. However, with religious politicians, there isn't even a balance. Its the bible or nothing else.
But this is true of almost ALL politicians. There's precious little room for compromise these days....can you see Nancy Pelosi deviating very far from the most strict liberal dogma? I can't...and I defy you to tell me how following that dogma differs from following religion. You can't...
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Yup. There are probably a handful of major corporations that run this world. Politicians are in their back pockets, repubs and dems.
Coach is too stupid to realize this.
They like people like him clueless who think it's actually the other side who is screwing him over when in fact it's both sides and the behest of corporate America
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Yup. There are probably a handful of major corporations that run this world. Politicians are in their back pockets, repubs and dems.
Coach is too stupid to realize this.
Some may have good intentions, but then they realize how the game is played, and who they must "bend over for", the problem is, they must convey to the public, via their "charisma" what they will do that is good for the public. So, it's kinda like convincing a child that the "bad tasting purple medicine is good for you", or that "the shot won't hurt that much, I'm right here.", convincing the public is the true politicians artform, everything else is behind closed doors.
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They like people like him clueless who think it's actually the other side who is screwing him over when in fact it's both sides and the behest of corporate America
Yup. Coach actually thinks that Republicans care about him ::).
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Corporations don't give a fuck about you or anyone else...they exist to make money.
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Corporations don't give a fuck about you or anyone else...they exist to make money.
Its been said that today's corporations have no nationality or political affiliation, they are like floating clouds or entities...would be interesting to see when a war breaks out, where their interests lie, and whom they support---the home team, the enemy, or whoever they think will win.
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Yup. There are probably a handful of major corporations that run this world. Politicians are in their back pockets, repubs and dems.
Coach is too stupid to realize this.
And you libs/atheists have it all figured out? Haha.
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And you libs/atheists have it all figured out? Haha.
Its not a lib or atheist thing, connect the dots coach, hell even the libs/atheists are being played.
As long as the public is placated with cable tv, filler tv, fast food, UFC, NASCAR, men in thongs, Superbowl, the Olympics, shit goes down more smoothly than a hot fudge sundae. Once you take away the pleasurable things in life, and God forbid, tell people that they have to work for things in life, and tell them that they are not gauranteed free shit or respect is earned, then there is a problem.
Do you know how many people are on "disability" and smoke up or drink up their money? Tons!
Do you know how many are addicted to pain pills? Tons! And the government ain't doing and won't do a damn thing about it, the latter the drug corporations have a huge hand in the politicians pockets and in fed government regulations. The former is a symtom of the governments failure to determine who is legitimately "disabled".
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Yup. Coach actually thinks that Republicans care about him ::).
Well, considering 1/2 my wife's family works on the hill and head of the RNC (I'm.not going to say where because I trust no one) and I'm sitting with most of them at this very second. I know give more of a shit than the Obama and left. Keep listing.to the left Bullshit on tv and radio, I'll continue to get mine from first hand knowledge. Thus is one of the reasons why I just back shake my and laugh my ass off.
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And you libs/atheists have it all figured out? Haha.
Spoken like the right wing puppet you are , kept focusing on minutia while both parties bend over the average American person
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And you libs/atheists have it all figured out? Haha.
Gee, you are so fucking stupid. Seriously, you are dumb.
No libs and atheists don't have it figured out. Neither do republicans or theists. Everyone is being played, you fucking illiterate, moron.
Can't you seem to understand this. You are really ignorant.
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Well, considering 1/2 my wife's family works on the hill and head of the RNC (I'm.not going to say where because I trust no one) and I'm sitting with most of them at this very second. I know give more of a shit than the Obama and left. Keep listing.to the left Bullshit on tv and radio, I'll continue to get mine from first hand knowledge. Thus is one of the reasons why I just back shake my and laugh my ass off.
haha, and you listen to them because they are family? lol. You fucking stupid man. If they are politicians, they are liars and are not telling you the truth either. You're so fucking dumb. Your first hand knowledge means shit, you moron.
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Wal-Mart is definately one of the corps. that run the world. (I work for them) We are in Mexico, Puerto Rico, China, etc..... Make 100's of billions in profits each year. Walmart = Devil.
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lol ;D
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lol ;D
haha, was that you in grade school, tito? ;D ;D
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Well, considering 1/2 my wife's family works on the hill and head of the RNC (I'm.not going to say where because I trust no one) and I'm sitting with most of them at this very second. I know give more of a shit than the Obama and left. Keep listing.to the left Bullshit on tv and radio, I'll continue to get mine from first hand knowledge. Thus is one of the reasons why I just back shake my and laugh my ass off.
Coach I live just outside of the Beltway, known people who have worked on the hill, known people who have worked under certain Supreme Court Justices, know people who have worked lobbyists...it's a system that is all inter-related.
It's all to make money, remember we live in a Capitalist society, and systems develop, evolve around making money. The human element, who really gives a damn...
I believe it was Napoleon who said, "the surest way to stay poor is to remain honest."
think of that for a moment.
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haha, was that you in grade school, tito? ;D ;D
no i played the skin flute from a very early age SF haha
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no i played the skin flute from a very early age SF haha
hahaha, a future IFBB pro in the making ;D ;D
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It's all to make money, remember we live in a Capitalist society, and systems develop, evolve around making money. The human element, who really gives a damn...
Exactly. And just as you have Beltway connections - sorry man, I edited that out - I have clients in the oil industry and I've had dealings with the Koch brothers within the past few months, and it's ALL about the bottom line. And seeing that doesn't mean that I live in a black and white world where the complete, narrow opposite viewpoint must be political alignment (hell, if I had to define myself, it'd be moderate Republican and I do want preferable changes in the business environment), but come on people. The Kochs aren't all evil, but their Heritage Foundation and the subsequent emergence of the Tea Party is all about limiting government's encroachment on their interests, namely tax and environment. Not saying that it's some horrible conspiracy, but it's not about changing America for the average man, but rather, for the average business. Anything else is just part of the organic, right wing side of the Republican party that frankly, many other Republicans dislike but are having a hard time dealing with politically.
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Exactly. And just as you have Beltway connections - sorry man, I edited that out - I have clients in the oil industry and I've had dealings with the Koch brothers within the past few months, and it's ALL about the bottom line. And seeing that doesn't mean that I live in a black and white world where the complete, narrow opposite viewpoint must be political alignment (hell, if I had to define myself, it'd be moderate Republican and I do want preferable changes in the business environment), but come on people. The Kochs aren't all evil, but their Heritage Foundation and the subsequent emergence of the Tea Party is all about limiting government's encroachment on their interests, namely tax and environment. Not saying that it's some horrible conspiracy, but it's not about changing America for the average man, but rather, for the average business. Anything else is just part of the organic, right wing side of the Republican party that frankly, many other Republicans dislike but are having a hard time dealing with politically.
Hi Coach!
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Hi Coach!
Far from it, though I live in the same county. ;)
I was criticizing the Tea Party adherents and the genesis of the movement, lol.
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Coach I live just outside of the Beltway, known people who have worked on the hill, known people who have worked under certain Supreme Court Justices, know people who have worked lobbyists...it's a system that is all inter-related.
It's all to make money, remember we live in a Capitalist society, and systems develop, evolve around making money. The human element, who really gives a damn...
I believe it was Napoleon who said, "the surest way to stay poor is to remain honest."
think of that for a moment.
You're arguing with a halfwit that proverbially have his fingers in his ears going 'la la la la la la', or up his ass, you never know with these bible fucker boys.
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Again...you are asking to accept that harvesting human lives for science is the greater good. I disagree. You are asking me to accept the notion that science trumps morality and that morality, be it personal or collective, should be set aside in favor of someone else's moral judgement. I disagree. You think that...for whatever reason...your scientific interest should hold sway over my moral objections when it comes to the expenditure of federal money. I disagree.
If the science truly is there...fund it privately. I would be truly saddened and morally repulsed if a woman were to sell an embryo she is carrying to a lab so they can harvest it...but that's her right.
Embryonic stem cells are harvested from a part of the blastocyst, which is itself a collection of ~100 undifferentiated cells. If you think this collection is equivalent to a fully-formed human being with a functioning nervous system and a mental life, then you are a very confused person with little to no grasp on the issue at hand. What's morality got to do with utilizing 100 cells for scientific research? Following your logic, isn't it immoral to scratch your arm, an act which may well destroy more than 100 cells (skin cells)?
This is why our representatives are more like stewards -- managers with some room for independent thought and action -- rather than echo chambers for their constituents' thoughts. In a country where people hold very confused and ill-informed views (1/5th believing the sun revolves around the earth, you thinking that ~100 undifferentiated cells is a being with rights) the country would collapse if leaders mimed the electorate.
You should have the right to express any view you like, but the flip-side is that everyone else should have a right to ignore it if it is terribly ignorant.
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A human embryo is the genesis of a specific life with a specific identity....to compare an entity that will develop and grow into fully formed person to the cells on your arm is absurd.
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A human embryo is the genesis of a specific life with a specific identity....to compare an entity that will develop and grow into fully formed person to the cells on your arm is absurd.
ahhh, the religious moralist, always looking for a backdoor out. Kind of like saying, "Youre interpreting the bible wrong" or cherry picking parts of the bible you want to accept and/or ignore.
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Conservatives will LOVE the guy. He's consistent (something Romney is not).
Now, a lot of his positions (particularly the ones about cutting "entitlements"), I disagree with... I mean, a guy pays into social security for 30 years... he retires and wants his money. Paul Ryan wants to push back the age where a guy can get his own darn money back. To me, that's shaky as it gets - it's not welfare, it's the guy's own money, ya know?
But the big-name repubs didn't want the slot. Jeb declined. Romney knows how tough it is to beat an incumbent president, which is why heavy hitters like Jeb, Rubio, Christie, and a slew of others sat 2012 out. He's announcing the VP pick 2 wekes earlier than Mccain or Obama did... Because he just doesn't have any other options. He's getting destoryed by republican pundits on the far-right. "Romney is losing" came from Laura Ingraham and that top repub pundit Kris something yesterday. It's sinking quickly. Ann coulter destoryed him. Losing his base.
Ryan gives him back that base. he's good looking (women who vote based on looks). He's not going to sit well with moderates.
sorry but us republicans don't have got no health problems. health problems and accidents only happen to lazy people who deserve it.
you earn everything, even your skin color. if you have it, you deserve it. this mentality also lines up with are humble, loving, christian beliefs.
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sorry but us republicans don't have got no health problems. health problems and accidents only happen to lazy people who deserve it.
you earn everything, even your skin color. if you have it, you deserve it. this mentality also lines up with are humble, loving, christian beliefs.
Good trolling, for my sake, I really hope you are! lol
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ahhh, the religious moralist, always looking for a backdoor out. Kind of like saying, "Youre interpreting the bible wrong" or cherry picking parts of the bible you want to accept and/or ignore.
You're fixation with the bible is getting tiresome....the fact remains, a harvested human embryo is not the same thing as the cells on your arm. If they were, we'd be researching cells on our arms.
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Good trolling, for my sake, I really hope you are! lol
if I had spelled "our" correctly and used proper grammar, then it would not be distinguishable from a genuine hard right post.
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You're fixation with the bible is getting tiresome....the fact remains, a harvested human embryo is not the same thing as the cells on your arm. If they were, we'd be researching cells on our arms.
They are researching the cells on our arms: embryonic stem cells are derivable from skin cells. These cells can in turn be developed into embryos. There is no principled difference between harvesting a set of stem cells from a cluster of ~100 skin cells from your nose and another set derived from the ~100 cells of a blastocyst. The two are thus logically equivalent.
Since this is the case, if you think terminating a blastocyst is somehow "wrong" or "killing human life," you logically ought to think scratching your nose is something akin to genocide. Obviously, this is a stupid belief. And thus, it is also a stupid belief in the case of blastocysts.
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http://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1006&context=bioethics_papers
Wow..there seems to be a lot of ethical concern being taken re the care and disposal of embryos...it's as if there's an understanding that they aren't just a collection of cells. You sound like a typical narrow minded scientist...unwilling to consider the ehtics behind the research. It's people like you who develop chemical weapons... :)
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http://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1006&context=bioethics_papers
Wow..there seems to be a lot of ethical concern being taken re the care and disposal of embryos...it's as if there's an understanding that they aren't just a collection of cells. You sound like a typical narrow minded scientist...unwilling to consider the ehtics behind the research. It's people like you who develop chemical weapons... :)
do ethics go hand and hand with the belief in god?
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Of course not...my belief in a higher being has wavered over the years. My personal morality has largely remained unchanged...even during the period of time that I was pretty much agnostic.
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to add to that..if all you're doing is following the dictates of others..you don't have anything. No morals...no thoughts...no ideas...question thepeople you disagree with closely. Question the people you agree with more closely