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i agree with a lot of the ryan plan - but that 4.1 trillion shoulnd't go to tax cuts for millionaires - it should go to paying off the damn debt.
he's proposing something good about slashing spending and entitlements - but squandering most of it by handing it off to the super-wealthy.
I know the standard getbig line is "everyone needs cuts", but seriously, can the millionaires hold off for a decade so we can reduce the debt completely, please?
methinks this is a case of "if obama proposed cutting tax rates on millionaires, you'd shit your pants in protest"
You claim to be a Ron Paul fan yet you consistently make comments that show your ideologies couldn't be any farther from his.
Defend your statements. Do you actually think the government will pay down any of the debt with increased taxes (or leaving them the same)? You seem to be in favor letting the Bush tax rates expire. Ron Paul doesn't advocate raising taxes on anyone yet you claim to be for him and share his ideologies.
I think you're nothing more than a chronic liar who continues to embarrass himself on a daily basis here. The overwhelming majority of your posts seem to be little more than that day's Maddow show, rehashed, of course.
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Bump.
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If he knew anything, he would know that taxing the rich is just a liberal talking point.
We dont have enough rich to tax even if we confiscated all their wealth not just their income it would only run the govt for like half a year.
but some how raising their taxes is going to solve all our debt woes....
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I dont agree with ron paul on everything. I don't think Romney will pay down the debt. Ryan, I think he just might.
I want to slash 50% of war spending. Do we "NEED" 50k men in south korea? Really?
Slash welfare. Slash UE. Leave social security alone. Cut defense spending.
Also, does ANYONE here agree with 100% of the things of the guy they support?
I mean, Romney signed an assault weapons ban, and every repub here is going to vote for him DESPITE THIS.
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If he knew anything, he would know that taxing the rich is just a liberal talking point.
We dont have enough rich to tax even if we confiscated all their wealth not just their income it would only run the govt for like half a year.
but some how raising their taxes is going to solve all our debt woes....
And cutting food stamps and welfare is gonna generate how much revenue?
A lot less. We are never gonna pay our debt anyway its just a matter if you want to use it as an excuse to fuck over people who doesnt have shit to begin with.
Watch when Romney becomes president then we wont hear much about the debt.
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And cutting food stamps and welfare is gonna generate how much revenue?
It's not about "generating revenue" (translation: government stealing the people's money) but about cutting government spending.
A lot less. We are never gonna pay our debt anyway its just a matter if you want to use it as an excuse to fuck over people who doesnt have shit to begin with.
Government handouts don't work in the first place. Ever since the War on Poverty started, the poverty rate has remained stagnant. If you want people to be prosperous and successful, then remove the taxes that take their wealth, eliminate the red tape that holds them back, and get rid of the handout system that destroys work ethic.
Watch when Romney becomes president then we wont hear much about the debt.
We probably will. I wouldn't be surprised if Democrats pulled a 180 and started pretending to be fiscally responsible when Romney becomes President.
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It's not about "generating revenue" (translation: government stealing the people's money) but about cutting government spending.
Government handouts don't work in the first place. Ever since the War on Poverty started, the poverty rate has remained stagnant. If you want people to be prosperous and successful, then remove the taxes that take their wealth, eliminate the red tape that holds them back, and get rid of the handout system that destroys work ethic.
We probably will. I wouldn't be surprised if Democrats pulled a 180 and started pretending to be fiscally responsible when Romney becomes President.
1. Agree
2. I didnt hear shit about our debt before Obama took office. Then all of a sudden it was a huge issue. Where was it when Bush gave tax cuts and started 2 wars?
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1. Agree
2. I didnt hear shit about our debt before Obama took office. Then all of a sudden it was a huge issue. Where was it when Bush gave tax cuts and started 2 wars?
I remember the Democrats bitching pretty loudly during the 2000s about how Bush took budget surpluses and turned them into deficits.
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I remember the Democrats bitching pretty loudly during the 2000s about how Bush took budget surpluses and turned them into deficits.
Did they run a campaign on it?
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WHich candidate do you agree with, 100% of the time? Which one?
None?
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Did they run a campaign on it?
Uh... yeah, 2008.
"Change we can believe in" ;)
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I dont agree with ron paul on everything. I don't think Romney will pay down the debt. Ryan, I think he just might.
I want to slash 50% of war spending. Do we "NEED" 50k men in south korea? Really?
Slash welfare. Slash UE. Leave social security alone. Cut defense spending.
Also, does ANYONE here agree with 100% of the things of the guy they support?
I mean, Romney signed an assault weapons ban, and every repub here is going to vote for him DESPITE THIS.
you don't agree with Ron paul on nearly anything.
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Did they run a campaign on it?
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Uh... yeah, 2008.
"Change we can believe in" ;)
:D
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you don't agree with Ron paul on nearly anything.
please list ron paul's position on the top 10 issues. I will tell you which I agree/disagree with.
"Nearly anything" = ?
List em champ.
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please list ron paul's position on the top 10 issues. I will tell you which I agree/disagree with.
"Nearly anything" = ?
List em champ.
We have already been down that road. Other than 2nd amendment - you disagree with ron paul on nearly everything and laughably called yourself a libertarian at one point. LMFAO!
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We have already been down that road. Other than 2nd amendment - you disagree with ron paul on nearly everything and laughably called yourself a libertarian at one point. LMFAO!
Okay, i'll research them and post them. You'll apologize if I don't disagree with "nearly everything"?
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until you QUANTIFY the numbers here, 33, you're just talking shit dude. "nearly anything"? I'm pretty sure you don't agree with ron Paul on Iran, right? I'm pretty sure you disagree with Ron Paul on that one.
So again, 33, which candidate do you agree with 100% of the time? I know you like this romney guy - he has supported gun bans, socialized medicine and even fell for global warming for a while, didn't he?
i wish i was like you, and could find a candidate I agree with 100% of the time.
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until you QUANTIFY the numbers here, 33, you're just talking shit dude. "nearly anything"? I'm pretty sure you don't agree with ron Paul on Iran, right? I'm pretty sure you disagree with Ron Paul on that one.
So again, 33, which candidate do you agree with 100% of the time? I know you like this romney guy - he has supported gun bans, socialized medicine and even fell for global warming for a while, didn't he?
i wish i was like you, and could find a candidate I agree with 100% of the time.
Bump the thread - we already discussed this. And know I never demand 100/100 out of a politician in order to vote for them, thats absurd.
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Bump the thread - we already discussed this. And know I never demand 100/100 out of a politician in order to vote for them, thats absurd.
What % do you "demand"? LOL
You've admitted that you dont agree with 100% of Ron Paul positions either. I guess you're shitting on me because your % happens to be bigger than my %?
Of course, how can I argue with that?
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What % do you "demand"? LOL
You've admitted that you dont agree with 100% of Ron Paul positions either. I guess you're shitting on me because your % happens to be bigger than my %?
Of course, how can I argue with that?
How about 51% at least.
1. SS - Paul wants to end it - you disagree
2. Paul wants to end medicare or radically cut it - you disagree
3. Paul was against obama's wars in lybia and egypt - you disagree
4. Paul wants to legalize drugs - you disagree
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How about 51% at least.
1. SS - Paul wants to end it - you disagree
2. Paul wants to end medicare or radically cut it - you disagree
3. Paul was against obama's wars in lybia and egypt - you disagree
4. Paul wants to legalize drugs - you disagree
Okay - You have delivered a number. 51%. Then you delivered 4 issues. Four that you hand-picked because I disagree with them. I guess you prove zero percent. how abouts I go find 4 issues of Ron Paul's that I agree with? Then, I can prove 100%, by your logic, right? ;)
I agree with ron paul on guns, the border, leaving all those damn overseas involvements, gold standard, abortion, marriage, crime, drug war, energy, childcare/screening, tech privitiziation on exploration, and a few other issues. That's 9 of 9 in the pre-selected issues. Remember, I went 0-for-4 by the ones you handpicked, but 9-for-9 on those you picked.
Your "rubric" used for measurement is weaker than a popcorn fart.
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Okay - You have delivered a number. 51%. Then you delivered 4 issues. Four that you hand-picked because I disagree with them. I guess you prove zero percent. how abouts I go find 4 issues of Ron Paul's that I agree with? Then, I can prove 100%, by your logic, right? ;)
I agree with ron paul on guns, the border, leaving all those damn overseas involvements, gold standard, abortion, marriage, crime, drug war, energy, childcare/screening, tech privitiziation on exploration, and a few other issues. That's 9 of 9 in the pre-selected issues. Remember, I went 0-for-4 by the ones you handpicked, but 9-for-9 on those you picked.
Your "rubric" used for measurement is weaker than a popcorn fart.
LOL. You are against legalizing drugs remember?
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LOL. You are against legalizing drugs remember?
No, I am all for making them legal and taxing them. HOWEVER, if you endanger others by driving your vehicle while intoxicated, you get one year in prison for first offense, no questions asked.
I'm FINE with people doing it inside their house. The moment you smoke crack in public, it's prison for your ass.
See, do anything you want to your body - anabolic steroids, weed, coke, smack, meth - do it behind closed doors. If you neglect your child - prison. If you drive high - prison. If you sell that shit on the street - prison.
Legalize it, but you punish the fck out of anyone who endangers others due to it.
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You claim to be a Ron Paul fan yet you consistently make comments that show your ideologies couldn't be any farther from his.
Defend your statements. Do you actually think the government will pay down any of the debt with increased taxes (or leaving them the same)? You seem to be in favor letting the Bush tax rates expire. Ron Paul doesn't advocate raising taxes on anyone yet you claim to be for him and share his ideologies.
I think you're nothing more than a chronic liar who continues to embarrass himself on a daily basis here. The overwhelming majority of your posts seem to be little more than that day's Maddow show, rehashed, of course.
Amazing... Calling someone out for being a liar but you pal up with 3333....wow.. just stunning
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No, I am all for making them legal and taxing them. HOWEVER, if you endanger others by driving your vehicle while intoxicated, you get one year in prison for first offense, no questions asked.
I'm FINE with people doing it inside their house. The moment you smoke crack in public, it's prison for your ass.
See, do anything you want to your body - anabolic steroids, weed, coke, smack, meth - do it behind closed doors. If you neglect your child - prison. If you drive high - prison. If you sell that shit on the street - prison.
Legalize it, but you punish the fck out of anyone who endangers others due to it.
Dude - really? You want me to bump those threads where you were against leghalizing pot?
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There are at least 9 positions on issues that I agree with Ron Paul on, and that was just form a quick glance at the issues site.
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Dude - really? You want me to bump those threads where you were against leghalizing pot?
sure - and I'll list all the times where I said driving under pot = prison. Since I know this won't be enforced, it is not reasonable to expect it to be legalized.
If you offered a bill saying 1) Legalized but 2) prison for smoking outdoors or driving while high, I'm all for it.
just legalizing it so ppl can smoke it at the bus stop = fck all that, because you're now violating rights of others.
33, you're not really getting this.
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Amazing... Calling someone out for being a liar but you pal up with 3333....wow.. just stunning
Amazing... Calling 333 out for being a liar but you pal up with 240...wow.. just stunning
The guy doesn't just lie, he actually goes so far as to make "facts" up right out of thin air. On a board full of retards, 240 is among the elite.
240 has absolutely nothing in common with Ron Paul, which explains why he couldn't be bothered to skip stuffing his skinny/fat face at McDonald's long enough to bother voting for the guy in his primary. It's either funny or creepy that he wants to fit in on a bodybuilding forum's politics board and lies about his view of Ron Paul.
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240 has absolutely nothing in common with Ron Paul,
I agree with ron paul on guns, the border, leaving all those damn overseas involvements, gold standard, abortion, marriage, crime, drug war, energy, childcare/screening, tech privitiziation on exploration, and a few other issues.
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If he knew anything, he would know that taxing the rich is just a liberal talking point.
We dont have enough rich to tax even if we confiscated all their wealth not just their income it would only run the govt for like half a year.
but some how raising their taxes is going to solve all our debt woes....
you keep repeating this same mantra but I've explained to you a million times that raising taxes on the wealthy has nothing to do with totally covering our debt..it has to do with not having to borrow the additional money that goes uncollected from the rich, thus lowing our deficit....I agree that spending has to be cut as well and the poor have to be taxed...but its amazing the rich have basically brainwashed people like you that they are being taxed too much...
Amazing!
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And cutting food stamps and welfare is gonna generate how much revenue?
A lot less. We are never gonna pay our debt anyway its just a matter if you want to use it as an excuse to fuck over people who doesnt have shit to begin with.
Watch when Romney becomes president then we wont hear much about the debt.
I usually agree with you Whork, but everyone has to take a hit.....we are all in this together...we should begin cutting welfare. food stamps etc, but do so slowly over a number of years...we can't keep giving out more and more benefits...
also this cuts out the argument that the rich are shouldering an unfair burden because everyone would have to take painful cuts....
However, your point about bringing up the deficit when Obama became president is totally valid
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you keep repeating this same mantra but I've explained to you a million times that raising taxes on the wealthy has nothing to do with totally covering our debt..it has to do with not having to borrow the additional money that goes uncollected from the rich, thus lowing our deficit....I agree that spending has to be cut as well and the poor have to be taxed...but its amazing the rich have basically brainwashed people like you that they are being taxed too much...
Amazing!
The reason I keep repeating it is b/c morons keep thinking that is the main issue.
THE MAIN ISSUE IS SPENDING, wouldnt you agree?
raising taxes on the rich is basically pissing in the wind yet that is the main talking point of liberals.
CUT SPENDING FIRST!!!
then worry about taking hard earned money away from ppl who worked for it.
how the FUCK DO MORONS NOT UNDERSTAND THAT???
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Uh... yeah, 2008.
"Change we can believe in" ;)
the "change" Obama ran on had nothing to do with the deficit and you know that...come on!!!!
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the "change" Obama ran on had nothing to do with the deficit and you know that...come on!!!!
thats not true at all he was going to cut the deficit in half by the end of his term.
DO YOU NOT REMEMBER THAT PROMISE???
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We have already been down that road. Other than 2nd amendment - you disagree with ron paul on nearly everything and laughably called yourself a libertarian at one point. LMFAO!
nothing wrong with disagreeing with Ron Paul..he is batshit crazy
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How about 51% at least.
1. SS - Paul wants to end it - you disagree
2. Paul wants to end medicare or radically cut it - you disagree
3. Paul was against obama's wars in lybia and egypt - you disagree
4. Paul wants to legalize drugs - you disagree
you are the biggest dick I have ever seen...if Ron Paul ends SS what are millions of seniors going to live on???
If Ron Paul ends Medicare, how are millions of seniors going to be able to go to the doctor?..they would be dying in the streets
Ron Paul was proven absolutely wrong on Libya...big Obama success with ZERO American lives lost
Legalizing drugs?......just....WOW
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No, I am all for making them legal and taxing them. HOWEVER, if you endanger others by driving your vehicle while intoxicated, you get one year in prison for first offense, no questions asked.
I'm FINE with people doing it inside their house. The moment you smoke crack in public, it's prison for your ass.
See, do anything you want to your body - anabolic steroids, weed, coke, smack, meth - do it behind closed doors. If you neglect your child - prison. If you drive high - prison. If you sell that shit on the street - prison.
Legalize it, but you punish the fck out of anyone who endangers others due to it.
Legalizing won't work due to very lax enforcement....people would be driving under the influence, driving buses under the influence, driving trains under the influence...
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you are the biggest dick I have ever seen...if Ron Paul ends SS what are millions of seniors going to live on???
If Ron Paul ends Medicare, how are millions of seniors going to be able to go to the doctor?..they would be dying in the streets
Ron Paul was proven absolutely wrong on Libya...big Obama success with ZERO American lives lost
Legalizing drugs?......just....WOW
Shouldn't you be getting pissed on right now, puta?
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Amazing... Calling someone out for being a liar but you pal up with 3333....wow.. just stunning
I have pointed this out a million times...the conservatives on here do not get it nor do they want to
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I have pointed this out a million times...the conservatives on here do not get it nor do they want to
Not a conservative. Been a registered independent since the time I registered to vote. I vote on issues I deem important and I have the economy ranked #1 while golden shower boys like yourself try to deflect and blame everyone else but your God-King for his monumental destruction of said economy.
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thats not true at all he was going to cut the deficit in half by the end of his term.
DO YOU NOT REMEMBER THAT PROMISE???
I do remember that promise..which was a dumb promise to make in the first place but it really wasn't a central theme of his campaign....all candidates say they are going to cut the deficit..its a mantra they have an obligation to say
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Shouldn't you be getting pissed on right now, puta?
I just somehow knew you would say something dumb..you never add anything smart to the debate...I should be pissing on YOU actually
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I just somehow knew you would say something dumb..you never add anything smart to the debate...I should be pissing on YOU actually
It's my thread and you're posting non-stop in it. Looks like I added something intelligent.
Why don't you wow us with another "ASS KICKING" thread. Oh, by the way, the American taxpayer is now on the hook for $25 billion thanks to that AWESOME auto bailout that robbed the pensions of 20,000 non-union workers for the UAW.
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Not a conservative. Been a registered independent since the time I registered to vote. I vote on issues I deem important and I have the economy ranked #1 while golden shower boys like yourself try to deflect and blame everyone else but your God-King for his monumental destruction of said economy.
I would love to piss on your mother in your avatar
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Legalizing won't work due to very lax enforcement....people would be driving under the influence, driving buses under the influence, driving trains under the influence...
I'm fine with people shooting smack - BUT - if you do it then drive a car, then you get 20 years in prison.
If you're a bus driver and you drive stoned, you get 20 years in prison.
Lock a few and put em on CNN. make sure everyone knows. See how quick people learn to follow the rules.
And while people will cry "that's wrong", well, don't do drugs. Follow the law if you want ot use them.. And those prisons packed with offenders will be excellent for boosting the US mnfg market :)
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It's my thread and you're posting non-stop in it. Looks like I added something intelligent.
Why don't you wow us with another "ASS KICKING" thread. Oh, by the way, the American taxpayer is now on the hook for $25 billion thanks to that AWESOME auto bailout that robbed the pensions of 20,000 non-union workers for the UAW.
Dude...what was the president supposed to do>?..let the entire U.S auto industry collapse and then there would be no American car company at all?????
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I do remember that promise..which was a dumb promise to make in the first place but it really wasn't a central theme of his campaign....all candidates say they are going to cut the deficit..its a mantra they have an obligation to say
LMFAO it absolutely was a central part of his campaign.
It doesnt fucking matter what other politicians do, that doesnt make it fucking ok....
he ran on being different, ran on cutting the deficit in half and has FAILED MISERABLY!!!!
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I would love to piss on your mother in your avatar
Yawn. Anything else, 50-year-old college boy? Shouldn't you be chasing another worthless liberal arts degree?
Dude...what was the president supposed to do>?..let the entire U.S auto industry collapse and then there would be no American car company at all?????
Gee, funny that. Letting capitalism run its course. Sick bailout, by the way. What with GM thanking America by turning around outsourcing a massive chunk of their production to China.
So they rob us for $25 billion and then they outsource their production on top of it. Smart fucking work, UAW scumbags. ::)
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I'm fine with people shooting smack - BUT - if you do it then drive a car, then you get 20 years in prison.
If you're a bus driver and you drive stoned, you get 20 years in prison.
Lock a few and put em on CNN. make sure everyone knows. See how quick people learn to follow the rules.
And while people will cry "that's wrong", well, don't do drugs. Follow the law if you want ot use them.. And those prisons packed with offenders will be excellent for boosting the US mnfg market :)
good try but the drugs stay in your system and it can be argued that they will have an affect on your judgment, reflexes, and thinking for days or weeks on end..how do you police that?
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Yawn. Anything else, 50-year-old college boy? Shouldn't you be chasing another worthless liberal arts degree?
Gee, funny that. Letting capitalism run its course. Sick bailout, by the way. What with GM thanking America by turning around outsourcing a massive chunk of their production to China.
So they rob us for $25 billion and then they outsource their production on top of it. Smart fucking work, UAW scumbags. ::)
you try to use my getting another degree as a negative, but actually you have to be a lifelong learner if you want to succeed nowadays and get promotions....I have an education at least....how's that GED working for ya???
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good try but the drugs stay in your system and it can be argued that they will have an affect on your judgment, reflexes, and thinking for days or weeks on end..how do you police that?
they you tell people to smoke pot on friday after work and walk around the block all weekend. or you make the shit less effective. or you tell pothead to get a bike or enjoy prison. emissions would go down. Or people who DONT smoke drugs could get employment driving the stoners to work. Always an opportunity ;)
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and for those who don't follow the law...
well, watch that 8.3% UE number drop to 7.3% with all the prison guards we'll need.
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and for those who don't follow the law...
well, watch that 8.3% UE number drop to 7.3% with all the prison guards we'll need.
oh great...so now we become a massive prison state because some guys smoke weed when they drive....how does that save money>???
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oh great...so now we become a massive prison state because some guys smoke weed when they drive....how does that save money>???
yes. We will be a society where one can drive without some fcked up stoner hitting you. Cause after a few years of weeding out (pun) the smokers who drive, the problem ends. And this isn't denying anyone their 'rights'. Because driving is not a right, it is a privledge. Obey the laws of the road, smoke pot at home. what's the problemO?
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yes. We will be a society where one can drive without some fcked up stoner hitting you. Cause after a few years of weeding out (pun) the smokers who drive, the problem ends. And this isn't denying anyone their 'rights'. Because driving is not a right, it is a privledge. Obey the laws of the road, smoke pot at home. what's the problemO?
will never ever happen...we already have tough prison sentences for drugs and people still do it.....America is fucked up in that regard...we will do drugs no matter what the penalty
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will never ever happen...we already have tough prison sentences for drugs and people still do it.....America is fucked up in that regard...we will do drugs no matter what the penalty
Correct. The problem is people will always want to get high. People are trying to treat the symptom not the problem. Look at alcohol, prohibition failed miserably. People were going to drink. However, the amount of drunk driving has (supposedly) gone down considerably with the crackdown on it.
People are always going to want to get fucked up. We're never going to stop people from doing it. We have 2 options - waste billions, if not trillions of taxpayer dollars on a hopeless war on drugs, or legalize certain ones and tax them. As long as there is a demand, there will be people willing to break the law to provide it for them.
You want the scumbag dealers out of the game? Legalize it and tax it. Bam, no more dealers shooting each other.
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will never ever happen...we already have tough prison sentences for drugs
Disagree. My family is full of drug abusers - They get chased, yelled at, and stuck in rehab when they belong in prison.
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Disagree. My family is full of drug abusers - They get chased, yelled at, and stuck in rehab when they belong in prison.
Ever ask yourself why they get chased? Why they're so shady? Because its illegal. You're never going to stop people from wanting to get fucked up, and if you jailed everyone that fits your families description, 3/4 of this country would be in jail.
Did they have these "massive drug problems" back in the 20-30's when Heroin and Cocaine could be bought in stores? No, they didn't. Im not advocating for the legalization of Heroin or Meth, but its stupid to think that stricter laws are going to affect this.
Hell, we spend more on fighting drugs than we spent on the Iraq/Afghan war, and we have NOTHING to show for it. Its just another crusade they can get the public on.
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Correct. The problem is people will always want to get high. People are trying to treat the symptom not the problem. Look at alcohol, prohibition failed miserably. People were going to drink. However, the amount of drunk driving has (supposedly) gone down considerably with the crackdown on it.
People are always going to want to get fucked up. We're never going to stop people from doing it. We have 2 options - waste billions, if not trillions of taxpayer dollars on a hopeless war on drugs, or legalize certain ones and tax them. As long as there is a demand, there will be people willing to break the law to provide it for them.
You want the scumbag dealers out of the game? Legalize it and tax it. Bam, no more dealers shooting each other.
tRUTH
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Correct. The problem is people will always want to get high. People are trying to treat the symptom not the problem. Look at alcohol, prohibition failed miserably. People were going to drink. However, the amount of drunk driving has (supposedly) gone down considerably with the crackdown on it.
People are always going to want to get fucked up. We're never going to stop people from doing it. We have 2 options - waste billions, if not trillions of taxpayer dollars on a hopeless war on drugs, or legalize certain ones and tax them. As long as there is a demand, there will be people willing to break the law to provide it for them.
You want the scumbag dealers out of the game? Legalize it and tax it. Bam, no more dealers shooting each other.
good post.....there is just something about the American character that makes us love to get fucked up...I don't know why that is........
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Did they have these "massive drug problems" back in the 20-30's when Heroin and Cocaine could be bought in stores? No, they didn't. Im not advocating for the legalization of Heroin or Meth, but its stupid to think that stricter laws are going to affect this.
You have the timeline a bit skewed...the era of freely available cocaine and heroin/opiates is the Victorian era from roughly the 1870's to 1914 when cocaine and heroin were criminalized...And yes,...sadly...there were massive drug problems with these two substances during this time. Read about Ernst von Fleischl-Marxow, a colleague of Sigmund Freud,...hell read about Sigmund Freud,...and about drug use during this period of history in general...Watch the movie "Topsy Turvy" about the composing team of Gilbert and Sullivan. Intravenous drug abuse was everywhere.
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The reason I keep repeating it is b/c morons keep thinking that is the main issue.
THE MAIN ISSUE IS SPENDING, wouldnt you agree?
raising taxes on the rich is basically pissing in the wind yet that is the main talking point of liberals.
CUT SPENDING FIRST!!!
then worry about taking hard earned money away from ppl who worked for it.
how the FUCK DO MORONS NOT UNDERSTAND THAT???
You wanna cut military spending? What will keep the Chinese of our backs then when they will try and collect their money?:)
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Correct. The problem is people will always want to get high. People are trying to treat the symptom not the problem. Look at alcohol, prohibition failed miserably. People were going to drink. However, the amount of drunk driving has (supposedly) gone down considerably with the crackdown on it.
People are always going to want to get fucked up. We're never going to stop people from doing it. We have 2 options - waste billions, if not trillions of taxpayer dollars on a hopeless war on drugs, or legalize certain ones and tax them. As long as there is a demand, there will be people willing to break the law to provide it for them.
You want the scumbag dealers out of the game? Legalize it and tax it. Bam, no more dealers shooting each other.
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It's not about "generating revenue" (translation: government stealing the people's money) but about cutting government spending.
Government handouts don't work in the first place. Ever since the War on Poverty started, the poverty rate has remained stagnant. If you want people to be prosperous and successful, then remove the taxes that take their wealth, eliminate the red tape that holds them back, and get rid of the handout system that destroys work ethic.
We probably will. I wouldn't be surprised if Democrats pulled a 180 and started pretending to be fiscally responsible when Romney becomes President.
Poor people dont have any wealth so how is cutting their taxes gonna make them richer?
Besides cutting spending is just another way to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
We are never ganna pay the many trillions we owe in debt anyway the republicans know this they are just using it as an excuse to rip the poor once again.
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the same people screaming 'cut spending' are usually the ones screaming 'double military spending and give the welathy tax cuts'.
Spending will be the same, just in other directions. To them, 1000 US miliary bases isn't enough. We should end welfare and medicare and social security and have 1500 bases. Baffling.
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You have the timeline a bit skewed...the era of freely available cocaine and heroin/opiates is the Victorian era from roughly the 1870's to 1914 when cocaine and heroin were criminalized...And yes,...sadly...there were massive drug problems with these two substances during this time. Read about Ernst von Fleischl-Marxow, a colleague of Sigmund Freud,...hell read about Sigmund Freud,...and about drug use during this period of history in general...Watch the movie "Topsy Turvy" about the composing team of Gilbert and Sullivan. Intravenous drug abuse was everywhere.
I was referring more to the tooth ache and headache medicines, but thanks for the history lesson. :)
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You wanna cut military spending? What will keep the Chinese of our backs then when they will try and collect their money?:)
uh huh :)
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the same people screaming 'cut spending' are usually the ones screaming 'double military spending and give the welathy tax cuts'.
Spending will be the same, just in other directions. To them, 1000 US miliary bases isn't enough. We should end welfare and medicare and social security and have 1500 bases. Baffling.
Why is it baffling? Defense is one thing the Federal Government is supposed to handle. The rest not so much.
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the same people screaming 'cut spending' are usually the ones screaming 'double military spending and give the welathy tax cuts'.
Spending will be the same, just in other directions. To them, 1000 US miliary bases isn't enough. We should end welfare and medicare and social security and have 1500 bases. Baffling.
Not really.
The spending they want to cut is poor people getting aid. Thats all.
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Not really.
The spending they want to cut is poor people getting aid. Thats all.
Show me in the constitution where that is the job of the Federal Government....
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Show me in the constitution where that is the job of the Federal Government....
This isnt 1787 anymore...
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This isnt 1787 anymore...
So what? The constitution says what it fucking says - its the law of the land.
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So what? The constitution says what it fucking says - its the law of the land.
there was no internet in the constitution as well....why are you on here then>?
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there was no internet in the constitution as well....why are you on here then>?
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there was no internet in the constitution as well....why are you on here then>?
HAHAHAH!!
Look at this fool. Unbelievable.
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HAHAHAH!!
Look at this fool. Unbelievable.
He is a typical obama drone 95er. What else do you expect?
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I'm sorry. My sincere apologies.....I forgot I have to spell everything out for an idiot like yourself....if you say something must be in the constitution to be valid, well the internet was not in the constitution yet you use it right>?
and some state governments tax internet sales....yet thats not in the constitution is it???
THINK
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I'm sorry. My sincere apologies.....I forgot I have to spell everything out for an idiot like yourself....if you say something must be in the constitution to be valid, well the internet was not in the constitution yet you use it right>?
and some state governments tax internet sales....yet thats not in the constitution is it???
THINK
You know what fuck you, talk your shit from behind a keyboard. Second, I pay for internet access from a private company not the fucking government you stupid asshole. Yeah the ability to tax is in the constitution, so yet again shut your fucking hole until you have one clue what you are talking about.
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You know what fuck you, talk your shit from behind a keyboard. Second, I pay for internet access from a private company not the fucking government you stupid asshole. Yeah the ability to tax is in the constitution, so yet again shut your fucking hole until you have one clue what you are talking about.
Andre is part of the cult of obama - he is good for a laugh and little more.
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You know what fuck you, talk your shit from behind a keyboard. Second, I pay for internet access from a private company not the fucking government you stupid asshole. Yeah the ability to tax is in the constitution, so yet again shut your fucking hole until you have one clue what you are talking about.
HA!!..keep melting down....you got cornered with your dick up your ass and of course you resort to cursing and name-calling....pull out the racial card next...
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Andre is part of the cult of obama - he is good for a laugh and little more.
wow..he with 93,000 posts with 92,000 of them on Obama...on a bodybuilding board no less
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HA!!..keep melting down....you got cornered with your dick up your ass and of course you resort to cursing and name-calling....pull out the racial card next...
Blah blah blah I'm andre, I say a bunch of stupid shit, then act like I somehow won a debate ::). Why would I need to pull out a race card? Again at least attempt to make sense.
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Blah blah blah I'm andre, I say a bunch of stupid shit, then act like I somehow won a debate ::). Why would I need to pull out a race card? Again at least attempt to make sense.
just.................... ........................ ........................ ........................ .......wow ::)
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just...................................................................................................wow ::)
Exactly, your brain dead response are that .................just wow ::)
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I'm sorry. My sincere apologies.....I forgot I have to spell everything out for an idiot like yourself....if you say something must be in the constitution to be valid, well the internet was not in the constitution yet you use it right>?
and some state governments tax internet sales....yet thats not in the constitution is it???
THINK
Im confused.... The point is that the Constitution outlines what the FEDERAL Goverment can and cant do. State and local governments get a lot more leeway. Your whole argument makes no sense.
The Federal Governments power is limited, and there is a reason for that.
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Im confused.... The point is that the Constitution outlines what the FEDERAL Goverment can and cant do. State and local governments get a lot more leeway. Your whole argument makes no sense.
The Federal Governments power is limited, and there is a reason for that.
This is what happens when the constitutionally illiterate start typing
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Andre is part of the cult of obama - he is good for a laugh and little more.
HAHAHAHA
Funny.. because thats the reason i log on to getbig. To see what 3333 has to say about Obama or his wife..
The latest one is "blasting Gabby for eating MCdonalds"
Its a joke you fuck tard... get over yourself...
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I was referring more to the tooth ache and headache medicines, but thanks for the history lesson. :)
1914 is the cut off date for those.
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HAHAHAHA
Funny.. because thats the reason i log on to getbig. To see what 3333 has to say about Obama or his wife..
The latest one is "blasting Gabby for eating MCdonalds"
Its a joke you fuck tard... get over yourself...
If it's a joke then why did Obama have to actually come out and lie defend his fat wife for her chastising a 16-year-old girl who is in 100x the shape she is?
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If it's a joke then why did Obama have to actually come out and lie defend his fat wife for her chastising a 16-year-old girl who is in 100x the shape she is?
Dude... if you cant tell thats a joke... the partisan shit has gone to your head...
They were on a late night TV show couch... 99% of the shit said on those shows are jokes..
DUDE they said some shit about a Whole Weat McMuffin.. There is no such thing... ITs a god damn joke.....
You guys talk about Dems being senative.. but look at you crying because someone made a joke on a talk show about a god damn sandwich... Soft as fuck right now
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Dude... if you cant tell thats a joke... the partisan shit has gone to your head...
They were on a late night TV show couch... 99% of the shit said on those shows are jokes..
DUDE they said some shit about a Whole Weat McMuffin.. There is no such thing... ITs a god damn joke.....
You guys talk about Dems being senative.. but look at you crying because someone made a joke on a talk show about a god damn sandwich... Soft as fuck right now
they are so caught up in their rhetoric they are reaching for anything....which is why this board has no real debate
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The Constitution was written in 1787 or something how much of the stuff is relevant today?
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The Constitution was written in 1787 or something how much of the stuff is relevant today?
Now I know why this country is on the verge of collapse
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Dude... if you cant tell thats a joke... the partisan shit has gone to your head...
They were on a late night TV show couch... 99% of the shit said on those shows are jokes..
DUDE they said some shit about a Whole Weat McMuffin.. There is no such thing... ITs a god damn joke.....
You guys talk about Dems being senative.. but look at you crying because someone made a joke on a talk show about a god damn sandwich... Soft as fuck right now
I couldn't help but to notice all your "anger" in this "venomous" post of yours. You must have be "raging" when you had to explain this to an autism carrier. Calm yourself down "Simple Jack".
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Now I know why this country is on the verge of collapse
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Because some people instead of thinking refers to a document written in another time?
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The Constitution was written in 1787 or something how much of the stuff is relevant today?
Dear God are you fucking nuts
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Because some people instead of thinking refers to a document written in another time?
Yeah thats the reason the country is fucked up, because the constitution has been followed so closely ::)
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Because some people instead of thinking refers to a document written in another time?
so you trust thugs like obama and biden to craft a new constitution?
LOL
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Yeah thats the reason the country is fucked up, because the constitution has been followed so closely ::)
Im not a 100% sure but if we have followed the constitution we never would have engaged in WW2
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Im not a 100% sure but if we have followed the constitution we never would have engaged in WW2
And how did you come to that conclusion?
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And how did you come to that conclusion?
Defeating Hitler was hardly common defense of the US.
Have you read the constitution?
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Defeating Hitler was hardly common defense of the US.
Have you read the constitution?
Yes I have, and Germany declared war on the US 3 days after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. So what is your next question about the constitution or US history, I'm here to help
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so you trust thugs like obama and biden to craft a new constitution?
LOL
And you would trust Palin Ryan and Romney to draft a constitution?
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And you would trust Palin Ryan and Romney to draft a constitution?
No - i want it left alone by all these jerks.
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Yes I have, and Germany declared war on the US 3 days after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. So what is your next question about the constitution or US history, I'm here to help
Hmm didnt know that, thanks.
I have one:
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
General welfare doesnt that include health care?
It doesnt matter if we can protect our borders if the population in bad medical condition.
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Hmm didnt know that, thanks.
I have one:
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
General welfare doesnt that include health care?
It doesnt matter if we can protect our borders if the population in bad medical condition.
The Welfare of the United States is not about the individual, its about the health of the country. Providing health care is not an enumerated power of the federal government, therefore the decision falls to the states via the 10th amendment
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If you didnt know that you are disqualified from any further debate or discussion. Talk about ignorance!
Hmm didnt know that, thanks.
I have one:
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
General welfare doesnt that include health care?
It doesnt matter if we can protect our borders if the population in bad medical condition.
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The Welfare of the United States is not about the individual, its about the health of the country. Providing health care is not an enumerated power of the federal government, therefore the decision falls to the states via the 10th amendment
But isnt the health of the country directly related to the health of its citizens?
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But isnt the health of the country directly related to the health of its citizens?
Has nothing to do with the individual, the Federal Government's obligation is to keep the COUNTRY Financially sound, protected, and uphold the laws. If free health care is to be offered, look to the states. The reason things are they way they are is because of the civil war. Everybody thinks it was about slavery, it was mostly about states rights.