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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Your Average GymRat on September 05, 2012, 07:21:25 PM
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I've met potheads that have never done heroin, coke, crystal meth, etc, but I've never met a junkie who didn't get started on weed. All crackeads, heroin addicts, tweakers started on weed. Gateway drug and I'm for stiffening the laws.
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Actually Yale did a study recently that Alcohol is far more of a gateway drug
Alcohol is by far one of the costliest drugs in terms of police and medical resources than any other drug out there
your scientific evidence is incredibly sound though ::)
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whats with the hate for weed??
I would prefer smoking then drinking anyday of the week. I have never done anything stupid that i regret smoking grass. Booze on the other hand is where all the dumbest shit came from.
Nobody starts sniffing rails high on weed its when the are drunk, then coke to crack, coke to meth and so forth.
The USA is in a downward spiral and u think they need tougher druglaws?? they need to legalize everything and put the money back into the USA instead of it going south to pay for the cartels ever expanding business.
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lol usa have their whole army in Astan and the best sattelites in the world yet cant destroy drug cultures there once and for all...funny isnt it?
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its brutal. The government spends billions on the war on drugs, and the consumption is on the rise. They need a different approach, prohibition didnt work with booze and it will never work with Drugs.
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Set up locked up colonies poulated with jigs and white junkies and let them all perish and overdose.
What does this have to do with weed? you cant possibly think the same of someone who is baked as someone who is high on meth??
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its brutal. The government spends billions on the war on drugs, and the consumption is on the rise. They need a different approach, prohibition didnt work with booze and it will never work with Drugs.
for sure. but all drugs are available if needed. I can go buy marijuana out of a medicinal store. in OR they allow you to get a medicinal card and with that card you can grow it yourself, have somebody grow it for you or just go to the many dispensarys and buy it. also if you really need cocaine they do have cocaine in hospitals. thye company mallinckrodt makes it. aso they have strong opiates when IV'ed work very similar to heroin.
The whole thing is silly though, we are making mexicans rich due to the fact they run the cocaine, crytal meth, and heroin game. sure the cocaine is from south america but they use mexico now to get it into the states instead of florida. I think weed should be available to anybody over the age of 21. and the other drugs obtained by doctors if really needed but only after a car wreck or something serious. keeping weed illegal is a joke-IMO. the whole drugs scene will never stop. It's best the US government sells it then letting mexico controll our usa streets with drugs.
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for sure. but all drugs are available if needed. I can go buy marijuana out of a medicinal store. in OR they allow you to get a medicinal card and with that card you can grow it yourself, have somebody grow it for you or just go to the many dispensarys and buy it. also if you really need cocaine they do have cocaine in hospitals. thye company mallinckrodt makes it. aso they have strong opiates when IV'ed work very similar to heroin.
The whole thing is silly though, we are making mexicans rich due to the fact they run the cocaine, crytal meth, and heroin game. sure the cocaine is from south america but they use mexico now to get it into the states instead of florida. I think weed should be available to anybody over the age of 21. and the other drugs obtained by doctors if really needed but only after a car wreck or something serious. keeping weed illegal is a joke-IMO. the whole drugs scene will never stop. It's best the US government sells it then letting mexico controll our usa streets with drugs.
And those mexicans getting rich are the cartels and they are ruthless!! the past 10yrs they have killed 50,000 people+. How about those 50 headless bodies they found a few months back?? Things are insane around the border now.
you are right the drugs will NEVER stop, only answer is legalization and taxation.
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anyone who has ever bounced in a club or worked as a cop or worked on an ambulance can tell you alcohol is a million times more dangerous, violent and life ruining drug than weed
I work on an ambulance and have bounced before
cant tell you the horrors i have seen from the results from alcohol :-\
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That's because booze is legal and therfore more prolific. Also, there is no breathalizer for weed and it's harder to detect. Weed is a negro's drug and is best left to them.
well now I can tell you're just trollin
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I've met potheads that have never done heroin, coke, crystal meth, etc, but I've never met a junkie who didn't get started on weed. All crackeads, heroin addicts, tweakers started on weed. Gateway drug and I'm for stiffening the laws.
How many junkies have you met? Alcohol & Cigarettes are normally the first drugs that people take - these are the gateway drugs - and they're legal. Worldwide, 162 million adults use marijuana at least once per year, and 22.5 million use the drug daily. To date, marijuana has never killed anybody, marijuana has many many medicinal purposes and the plant itself is a fantastic resource for making clothes, rope, paper etc.. The war on Drugs has caused far more suffering and deaths than if the drugs were legal.
If you take what's going on in Mexico as a prime example, were the cartels actually run the country and brutally murder at an alarming rate, there is now widespread corruption, also Military intervention to help police the country and the most horrendous crime rate and brutality. It is inexcusable for those in power to enforce what people ingest into their bodies - forcing your beliefs onto others on what they should ingest is Fascist nonsense. I'm amazed that people don't see the inherit violence of such an immoral ideology. Those who support such policies have a tremendous amount of blood on there hands and are responsible for untold suffering.
By criminalising marijuana, you create very powerful criminal organisations, one that operates beyond the law - the ultimate price is paid for by the taxpayer, the legal system and the average user who is incarcerated in an already overburdened jail system. Everyone loses except the Drug Lords!
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I've met potheads that have never done heroin, coke, crystal meth, etc, but I've never met a junkie who didn't get started on weed. All crackeads, heroin addicts, tweakers started on weed. Gateway drug and I'm for stiffening the laws.
Nope.
I started with E and Coke before I moved on to the (really) hard stuff.
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I can agree. I started with pot then nubain, then blow, X, K, GHB. But weed is like an appetizer. Still smoke daily
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How many junkies have you met? Alcohol & Cigarettes are normally the first drugs that people take - these are the gateway drugs - and they're legal. Worldwide, 162 million adults use marijuana at least once per year, and 22.5 million use the drug daily. To date, marijuana has never killed anybody, marijuana has many many medicinal purposes and the plant itself is a fantastic resource for making clothes, rope, paper etc.. The war on Drugs has caused far more suffering and deaths than if the drugs were legal.
If you take what's going on in Mexico as a prime example, were the cartels actually run the country and brutally murder at an alarming rate, there is now widespread corruption, also Military intervention to help police the country and the most horrendous crime rate and brutality. It is inexcusable for those in power to enforce what people ingest into their bodies - forcing your beliefs onto others on what they should ingest is Fascist nonsense. I'm amazed that people don't see the inherit violence of such an immoral ideology. Those who support such policies have a tremendous amount of blood on there hands and are responsible for untold suffering.
By criminalising purchasing marijuana , you create very powerful criminal organisations, one that operates beyond the law - the ultimate price is paid for by the taxpayer, the legal system and the average user who is incarcerated in an already overburdened jail system. Everyone loses except the Drug Lords!
it's always someone else's fault, right?
typical drug user attitude
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Oh i agree totally with you average gymrat, i will toast your name when i smoke my third blunt of the day, god bless you
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the problem with america is that it's so conservative, a country where war is glorified and holding guns is a right while smoking a bit of grass (child drugs in our free country) is been seen as a satan.
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it's always someone else's fault, right?
typical drug user attitude
Typical denial of a naive do-gooder who refuses to face facts (I also dont take drugs) just prefer someone smoking a herb rather than seeing people beheaded with chainsaws. Prohibitionists have a fucked up attitude! Keep burying your head in the sand and forcing others to believe you know what's good for them. The proof is in the pudding, How's that WAR on Drugs going! about the same as the WAR on TERROR! The war on drugs made the world a more dangerous place, and now the war on terror has made the world even more dangerous again. Gotta love those religious nutjobs running the show telling everyone else what to do, say, behave, eat, ingest - Yeah, that's working a treat! WAR WAR WAR - that's all the Americans know! The problem is, the majority of people with a Prohibition attitude have never even tried drugs, there brainwashing was so perfect, they're now afraid of even there own shadow let alone smoking some herbs.
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Your mom's a gateway drug.
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Your mom's a gateway drug.
shes addictive
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I've met potheads that have never done heroin, coke, crystal meth, etc, but I've never met a junkie who didn't get started on weed. All crackeads, heroin addicts, tweakers started on weed. Gateway drug and I'm for stiffening the laws.
so you completely contradick your self in this paragraph ..your a complete idiotic-
weed helps people with many diseases and your a typical fucked up idiot-
if your gonna do crack your gonna do it-has nothing to do with weed you tool--
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the swiss govt actually did this once in the 80s.
guess the result
Really? What happened?
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im all for legalizing it, and taxing it. And force people to have to get a RX for the heavier shit.
Cleaner drugs, less spreading of germs and diseases form sharing of needles, junkies have to get medical check ups, less crime, and the bigger reason $$$$ for the economy. Plus the $$$ wold stay in the US.
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im all for legalizing it, and taxing it. And force people to have to get a RX for the heavier shit.
Cleaner drugs, less spreading of germs and diseases form sharing of needles, junkies have to get medical check ups, less crime, and the bigger reason $$$$ for the economy. Plus the $$$ wold stay in the US.
Yup. Would eliminate the scumbag dealers and bring in a lot of tax revenue.
Unfortunately, that revenue would be spent on some stupid shit like always.
(This is coming from an ex-junkie as well. That shit (harder stuff, meth and heroin) ruins lives, but it will never stop people from using it.
Whats kind of funny, is that for Opiate addicts, they have basically legal forms of it with Methadone, that is doctor regulated, and to them, that is helping "treat" the addicts.
Which is fucking hilarious that they will let people pay a clinic to give them basically legal heroin everyday, but they throw people in jail for using Opiates outside of the "clinic". Its a fucked up system.
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im all for legalizing it, and taxing it. And force people to have to get a RX for the heavier shit.Cleaner drugs, less spreading of germs and diseases form sharing of needles, junkies have to get medical check ups, less crime, and the bigger reason $$$$ for the economy. Plus the $$$ wold stay in the US.
That would eliminate a BIG crime element to drugs. No more cartels. But then again, you eliminate all the jobs at the DEA and Border Patrol
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Yup. Would eliminate the scumbag dealers and bring in a lot of tax revenue.
Unfortunately, that revenue would be spent on some stupid shit like always.
(This is coming from an ex-junkie as well. That shit (harder stuff, meth and heroin) ruins lives, but it will never stop people from using it.
Whats kind of funny, is that for Opiate addicts, they have basically legal forms of it with Methadone, that is doctor regulated, and to them, that is helping "treat" the addicts.
Which is fucking hilarious that they will let people pay a clinic to give them basically legal heroin everyday, but they throw people in jail for using Opiates outside of the "clinic". Its a fucked up system.
as long the the $$$ stay in america its cool. hey, somebody has to buy the stupid shit ;D
but, seriously the government spent $500 per second on the war on drugs. And at the same time, cutting jobs at schools and shit.
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That would eliminate a BIG crime element to drugs. No more cartels. But then again, you eliminate all the jobs at the DEA and Border Patrol
Not really, DEA can refocus on legal drugs, and Border Patrol, will still patrol.
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"I know you dont smoke weed...I know this. But im gonna get you HIGH today. Its Friday, you aint got no job, and you aint got shit to do"
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Not really, DEA can refocus on legal drugs, and Border Patrol, will still patrol.
Yeah, somebody will have to guard the Governments crops, the DEA can do that! Either that or get a real job! I mean Hank couldn't even catch Heisenberg, his own brother in Law - the DEA is pretty useless. ;D ;D ;D
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I've met potheads that have never done heroin, coke, crystal meth, etc, but I've never met a junkie who didn't get started on weed. All crackeads, heroin addicts, tweakers started on weed. Gateway drug and I'm for stiffening the laws.
i'd say that tobacco/nicotine is a bigger 'gateway' drug than weed, and by far the bigger killer than all the aforementioned too.
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Just put them all together in locked, guarded colonies and give as much drugs as they can handle. From Advil to Weed to Crack. Round up the jigs, the trailer trash and the white whales.
lol
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i'd say that tobacco/nicotine is a bigger 'gateway' drug than weed, and by far the bigger killer than all the aforementioned too.
X2 Most addicts can quit certain drugs but most of them smoke as well, they continue to smoke its the last thing to go.
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i'd say that tobacco/nicotine is a bigger 'gateway' drug than weed, and by far the bigger killer than all the aforementioned too.
This and alcohol.
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X2 Most addicts can quit certain drugs but most of them smoke as well, they continue to smoke its the last thing to go.
drugs are only bad if you abuse them
i only abused alcohol, and it fucked me up big time, but i've also used weed, coke, x, xanax, speed, roids and none of them caught me like alcohol did
i use or have used all of those drugs, but i abused the shit out of alcohol
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drugs are only bad if you abuse them
i only abused alcohol, and it fucked me up big time, but i've also used weed, coke, x, xanax, speed, roids and none of them caught me like alcohol did
i use or have used all of those drugs, but i abused the shit out of alcohol
Alcohol is the toughest to quit as I understand.
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People who are Pro-Prohibition are the type of people that would crumble if they weren't being told what to do, they are the adult children who are afraid of themselves and grateful for Big Brother giving them orders. Some people are terrified to think and act for themselves, they prefer to hand over the responsibility for their lives to a higher authority, no matter how oppressive. Without thousands of rules, some people would just fall apart - they have a need to be TOLD what to do, mentally they never progressed past childhood, and now as adults need some type of father figure to guide their lives. Governments mentalities is one of treating the adult population like children. For the adult children this is desirable, for those who have matured, this is a nightmare.
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Alcohol is the toughest to quit as I understand.
actually man, i think that herion is
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actually man, i think that herion is
Heroin is one of the toughest from a mental standpoint, how much pain and suffering can you tolerate? I found things like Methadone were almost tougher, as they were much more drawn out (same basic substance, longer half life).
Alcohol W/D's can kill you. One of only a couple drugs that can do that, the other major one being Benzo's. They can cause fatal seizures.
Alcohol is one of the most destructive substances (to your body) that you can use.
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Yup. Would eliminate the scumbag dealers and bring in a lot of tax revenue.
Unfortunately, that revenue would be spent on some stupid shit like always.
(This is coming from an ex-junkie as well. That shit (harder stuff, meth and heroin) ruins lives, but it will never stop people from using it.
Whats kind of funny, is that for Opiate addicts, they have basically legal forms of it with Methadone, that is doctor regulated, and to them, that is helping "treat" the addicts.
Which is fucking hilarious that they will let people pay a clinic to give them basically legal heroin everyday, but they throw people in jail for using Opiates outside of the "clinic". Its a fucked up system.
prescription fraud is a big problem. It's the reason why doctors do electronic scripts now.
Doctors having their pads swiped by nurses on the take or people forging scripts and taking them to the pharmacy is so common place that it's a epidemic.
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People who are Pro-Prohibition are the type of people that would crumble if they weren't being told what to do, they are the adult children who are afraid of themselves and grateful for Big Brother giving them orders. Some people are terrified to think and act for themselves, they prefer to hand over the responsibility for their lives to a higher authority, no matter how oppressive. Without thousands of rules, some people would just fall apart - they have a need to be TOLD what to do, mentally they never progressed past childhood, and now as adults need some type of father figure to guide their lives. Governments mentalities is one of treating the adult population like children. For the adult children this is desirable, for those who have matured, this is a nightmare.
100% spot on
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There is no such thing as a gateway drug, it is just a state of mind.
Just like you can call protein and creatine the same as steroids, ei wanting that extra edge. In reality it is a state of mind.
Why do you do drugs ? To escape reality, because you hate your life, that is why.
Why do you take creatine or protein ? because you are after that "boost" same reason you take steroids, for an even stronger boost, then HGH and slin than weird research chems, then you wake up one day, as your quadriceps are being carrased by a bunch of old homos and think to your self how the fuck you got here, from a happy little kid to this fiend.
Whats the difference
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i have never heard of a pot head who gets high and beats is wife and kids everynight
ive worked as a bouncer and anyone who has seen what goes on in a club sober can tell you
FUCK ALCOHOL AND ANYONE WHO SAYS ITS BETTER THAN WEED
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i have never heard of a pot head who gets high and beats is wife and kids everynight
ive worked as a bouncer and anyone who has seen what goes on in a club sober can tell you
FUCK ALCOHOL AND ANYONE WHO SAYS ITS BETTER THAN WEED
they exist...and they are many...
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Set up locked up colonies poulated with jigs and white junkies and let them all perish and overdose.
That already exists. It's called USA.
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i have never heard of a pot head who gets high and beats is wife and kids everynight
ive worked as a bouncer and anyone who has seen what goes on in a club sober can tell you
FUCK ALCOHOL AND ANYONE WHO SAYS ITS BETTER THAN WEED
a friend of mine sold weed, and was addicted as fuck to it, and he also had violent and aggressive streaks, but be basically had these violent and aggressive streaks when he did 'srooms ie. mushrooms
another friend of mine did bout everything (alcohol, roids, weed, valium, crack (occassionally)) and weed never made him aggressive but alcohol and roids sure as hell did
once someone was tailgating him so he took an empty beer bottle and threw it out the window, hoping to smash up the dudes ride
with friends like this, who needs enemies lol
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and by the way, both of those dudes came from upper-middle class familes
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actually man, i think that herion is
Never tried that, because I hate needles. But quitting coke is a breeze compared to alcohol. Just cut yourself loose from the circle of friends that use coke. Problem solved. With alcohol, there's no escaping it. Hell, you get looked at funny if you don't have a beer with the guys! "It's just one beer, man!" And that goes on everywhere, in every social setting, every venue.
Which is why I've never fallen off the wagon coke-wise, but I do relapse once or twice per year on alcohol. Because maybe my friends and that bartender are right: it is only one beer! What harm could it do? It's not like there is a cheap and limitless supply waiting in the wings for me, available 24 hours per day with little or no social stigma... ::)
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a friend of mine sold weed, and was addicted as fuck to it, and he also had violent and aggressive streaks, but be basically had these violent and aggressive streaks when he did 'srooms ie. mushrooms
another friend of mine did bout everything (alcohol, roids, weed, valium, crack (occassionally)) and weed never made him aggressive but alcohol and roids sure as hell did
once someone was tailgating him so he took an empty beer bottle and threw it out the window, hoping to smash up the dudes ridewith friends like this, who needs enemies lol
He could have gotten shot...
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Never tried that, because I hate needles. But quitting coke is a breeze compared to alcohol. Just cut yourself loose from the circle of friends that use coke. Problem solved. With alcohol, there's no escaping it. Hell, you get looked at funny if you don't have a beer with the guys! "It's just one beer, man!" And that goes on everywhere, in every social setting, every venue.
Which is why I've never fallen off the wagon coke-wise, but I do relapse once or twice per year on alcohol. Because maybe my friends and that bartender are right: it is only one beer! What harm could it do? It's not like there is a cheap and limitless supply waiting in the wings for me, available 24 hours per day with little or no social stigma... ::)
i hear ya man
alcohol is a legal drug, so therefore it's very easily accessible
i stoped cold turkey over 2 years ago, and haven't had a drop since, and there is no such thing as "only one drink" for a true alcoholic, and it took me nearly 2 years to finally figure it out
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People who take marijuana regularly are drug addicts. Its as simple as that. I have no symphaty or tolerance for drugs or drug addicts.
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Alcohol is the devil, its fucked how bad it is compared to weed. Even I hate on weed sometimes, yet Ive done so much fucked up shit drinking. For me Ive fucked up my life worst in the last month drinking than I did being a chronic for 3 years. Thats ignoring the fact that I got two uncles, 3 great uncles, and one grandfather that were all drunks.
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People who take marijuana regularly are drug addicts. Its as simple as that. I have no symphaty or tolerance for drugs or drug addicts.
I smoke everyday and all day on the days i dont train.
Its not a drug.
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i hear ya man
alcohol is a legal drug, so therefore it's very easily accessible
i stoped cold turkey over 2 years ago, and haven't had a drop since, and there is no such thing as "only one drink" for a true alcoholic, and it took me nearly 2 years to finally figure it out
For someone to be able to stop booze and opiates is HARD! Blow is hard too. Never liked drinking and was afraid i would like heroin too much so i never tried it. Blow had me messed up for about 7 years. Did so much dumb crap that its hard to even think about
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Never tried that, because I hate needles. But quitting coke is a breeze compared to alcohol. Just cut yourself loose from the circle of friends that use coke. Problem solved. With alcohol, there's no escaping it. Hell, you get looked at funny if you don't have a beer with the guys! "It's just one beer, man!" And that goes on everywhere, in every social setting, every venue.
Which is why I've never fallen off the wagon coke-wise, but I do relapse once or twice per year on alcohol. Because maybe my friends and that bartender are right: it is only one beer! What harm could it do? It's not like there is a cheap and limitless supply waiting in the wings for me, available 24 hours per day with little or no social stigma... ::)
you drink to get drunk
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oxygen is a gateway drug
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Of course marijuana is a gateway drug. It's the first drug you try, and then realise that all the people who told you you were going to die or become a heroin addict if you were even in the same room as the stuff - didn't know what the hell they were talking about. As such, almost every piece of information given to you on illegal drugs becomes potentially false. That's a huge paradigm shift for anyone and it is the catalyst (the gateway) to seeking a more accurate representation of the "truth".
I can only speak for myself in this regard, marijuana was THE gateway drug for me because it was illegal and unsanctioned by government - alcohol was "safe" and legal. It was not a gateway drug (for me - that is, - no point dealing in absolutes)
If you're a parent, the worst thing you can do is paint an impractical picture of drugs to your child. We live in an age where they will find out that you were exaggerating (or wrong) and they will stop telling you anything about their life - because you are no longer to be trusted as a source of information - which renders your input absolutely useless. It is a fine line to walk with a kid, these days, because you might end up endorsing the use of drugs, too. I have no idea how I would deal with it, other than not bullshitting the kid.
Can't help if you're designated an "outsider mentality".
As for prohibition. E-Kul is right, but I think a generally grounded opinion on prohibition is a shrug of the shoulders. It is most definitely a restriction of our rights (those that have their own will) - but it is likely that the effects of lifting prohibition would be wide ranging and quite negative (for the idiots). I read people posting in my facebook feed of losing their car keys, finding them and then trying to tell themselves it was "god" who found their keys for them. These people do not even recognise their own capacity for choice so ahh, yeah, I'll shrug my shoulders on what is the lesser evil. If you're selfish, you're going to want prohibition lifted, but if you have a social conscience, I think you must agree that some of the idiots will not fare well under this new freedom (that's not to say it shouldn't happen - I just favour not picking a side).
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I smoke everyday and all day on the days i dont train.
Its not a drug.
fack im on the daily smoke train too. sometimes all day, but i love to smoke prior to lifting and have for years i find you get in the zone.
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i hear ya man
alcohol is a legal drug, so therefore it's very easily accessible
i stoped cold turkey over 2 years ago, and haven't had a drop since, and there is no such thing as "only one drink" for a true alcoholic, and it took me nearly 2 years to finally figure it out
Did you get the shakes/Dt's?
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People who take marijuana regularly are drug addicts. Its as simple as that. I have no symphaty or tolerance for drugs or drug addicts.
Do you drink? Just the fact you said "take" marijuana everyday tells me you're uneducated about the topic. As far as what's hardest to quit I've always said booze would be the worst can you could drive right down to the packy and get it whenever.
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Did you get the shakes/Dt's?
never
my grandad is 93 and drinks like a fish and smokes like a chimney and he's still going strong, lives on his own with no assistance of any kind and is just an angry pissed off dude lol
genetics FTW :D
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The truth of it is xanax is the most addictive drug more so than heroin. the withdrawals are absolutely awful and you can die! you can start seizuring at any point. with opiate withdrawal it is not that hardcore but still awful.
weed is not really addictive and I think when somebody gets used to smoking everyday it just comes natural and it just chills you out a bit.
there really are no withdrawals but if you are a everyday smoker for years and have to stop due to a plain trip visiting granny in vermont and dont want to risk bringing weed in your bag. you will get pissed off easier and it will be harder to sleep. But as far as withdrawals like with opiates or benzos it is nothing like that! It is good to take a week or 2 break from smoking anyway.
I used to smoke everyday and had not stopped for a day in years but I went to visit my mom on her birthday. Flew out and everything! The last thing I wanted was to get busted at the airport on my moms birthday. this was just after 9/11 too.
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Alcohol is the devil, its fucked how bad it is compared to weed. Even I hate on weed sometimes, yet Ive done so much fucked up shit drinking. For me Ive fucked up my life worst in the last month drinking than I did being a chronic for 3 years. Thats ignoring the fact that I got two uncles, 3 great uncles, and one grandfather that were all drunks.
Which means you need to stay far away from the bottle, or you'll end up like them.
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fack im on the daily smoke train too. sometimes all day, but i love to smoke prior to lifting and have for years i find you get in the zone.
Agreed.
I get a damn good pump if i smoke before i train
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xtc is heaven
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xtc is heaven
Man i miss that!
Blue Dolphins were the best