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There's probably no President in any other country that would have wished for Romney to win as much as Benjamin Netanyahu and there are very good reasons for that.
A) Both Romney and Netanyahu are business partners and worked in the same company before
B) Romney would have support Netanyahu with anything and everything were Netanyahu knows that he will have a much harder time with Obama now.
in the past few month Obama had to take all the shit from Netanyahu because he needs to keep the American Jewish lobby happy before election, now in his last 4 years what has he to loose?
I guarantee you Obama will settle some scores with Israel now, the chance that Obama will drag the US into another war with Iran are zero to none, so this is going to get very interesting indeed.
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Netanyahu will have the political clout to ignore Obama, IMO.
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Either way, that whole area with israelites and palestinians should be bombed to the ground.
No more Gaza-strip.
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Netanyahu will have the political clout to ignore Obama, IMO.
No 100% - he CANNOT ignore America, doing so would mean political suicide in Israel.
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maybe they are now ready to be nurtured off to stand on their own legs, and ready to make their own decisions
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Great post Stark. 100% True. Even through we pay child support to Israel, Obama's administration has not been as much of push overs as other presidents have been for Israel in the past.
This next four years will be very interesting (assuming December 21st, nothing happens).
Hahaha...If Netenyahu "ignored" the president, he would sign his country's political death warrant.
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maybe they are now ready to be nurtured off to stand on their own legs, and ready to make their own decisions
Lets hope not, with the current leadership it would mean a disaster in that middle east, and guess who's going to have to "clean" up the mess.
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Netanyahu always sounds total grumpy, I wonder what he sound like now talking to his advisers
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Sheldon Aldelson (Jew) gave Romney hundreds of millions to his campaign and pretty much paid for all of his commercials and publicaly stated he wanted a war with Iran. That was his sole reason.
This is a guy who made more money than any other American during Obama's 4 years. A cool $25 billion, yet he hates Obama ::)
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Great post Stark. 100% True. Even through we pay child support to Israel, Obama's administration has not been as much of push overs as other presidents have been for Israel in the past.
This next four years will be very interesting (assuming December 21st, nothing happens).
Hahaha...If Netenyahu "ignored" the president, he would sign his country's political death warrant.
I honest to god believe Israel could be dumb enough to attack Iran fooled into believing they can quick bomb the country into submission, this will NOT work and I can only shudder at the outcome - something is going to happen soon, nothing todo with 21th December tho ;D but
Netanyahu has to act at some stage, Israel can not afford an atomic Iran and a lot of people don't understand why. The reasons are not that 1 nuke can wipe out Israel they have nothing to fear from Iran since they know that Iran is not suicidal, Iran knows that if they ever nuke Israel they get wipped of this planet - even the remote chance that Iran is giving terrorists an abomb its very unlikely they do that since the makeup of the actual bomb plus the uranium etc can all be traced back to Iran.
No the reasons for Israel not being able to afford an atomic Iran is much simpler and can be described in 2 simple words.
Power balance.
Philip Zimbargo once made a great explanation: Its the same thing as if you are going for lunch with your rich uncle and you are student, its polite for you to suggest that you pay the bill even if both know that the bill will be paid by the uncle, now lets assume that the uncle all of a sudden says - Yes okay you can pay the bill - the balance is off right there.
Same happened when the russians invaded Georgia, Europe US and Russia had an unspoken agreement, Russia can pretend to be a military world power but is not allowed to act, all of a sudden they do act and all the cards are off the table and anything can happen, its makes people very nervous, are they going to move further, will they attack Nato troops next? A lot of uncertainty.
Same with an nuclear iran, it changes the power balance in the region, Israel is not the only country that has atomic weapons, were do you go next? How to you handle that, how do you negotiate?
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Sheldon Aldelson (Jew) gave Romney hundreds of millions to his campaign and pretty much paid for all of his commercials and publicaly stated he wanted a war with Iran. That was his sole reason.
This is a guy who made more money than any other American during Obama's 4 years. A cool $25 billion, yet he hates Obama ::)
That scumbag owns the Harrah's Corp. (Hotel and Casino) here in Vegas. My best friends dad complains about how absolutely scummy the corp. is and how the serfs.......I mean workers suffer because of it in the shittiest economy in the U.S.A. NEVADA.
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There's probably no President in any other country that would have wished for Romney to win as much as Benjamin Netanyahu and there are very good reasons for that.
A) Both Romney and Netanyahu are business partners and worked in the same company before
B) Romney would have support Netanyahu with anything and everything were Netanyahu knows that he will have a much harder time with Obama now.
in the past few month Obama had to take all the shit from Netanyahu because he needs to keep the American Jewish lobby happy before election, now in his last 4 years what has he to loose?
I guarantee you Obama will settle some scores with Israel now, the chance that Obama will drag the US into another war with Iran are zero to none, so this is going to get very interesting indeed.
One of the only things I like about Obama.
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I'm all for ignoring him. Guy is more trouble than he's worth. Engage with him and he'll lie to you; distance yourself and he'll pander to the hawks. Fuck him. >:(
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I'm all for ignoring him. Guy is more trouble than he's worth. Engage with him and he'll lie to you; distance yourself and he'll pander to the hawks. Fuck him. >:(
lol you talking about me, Obama or Nethanyahu?
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I'm all for ignoring him. Guy is more trouble than he's worth. Engage with him and he'll lie to you; distance yourself and he'll pander to the hawks. Fuck him. >:(
I loved when President Obama got caught talking shit about him with the French and I believe it was the Italian Presidents or Prime Ministers...
If that guy wanted peace, there'd be peace. But this scumbag and prior scumbags in his position, want to take, take, take from the people that were there and vilify them and torture them and basically enact genocide right before our eyes.
The filthy hand of the U.S.supports this by supporting Israel in the way they do. This has been going on entirely too long and Israel uses this as political capital.
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I loved when President Obama got caught talking shit about him with the French and I believe it was the Italian Presidents or Prime Ministers...
If that guy wanted peace, there'd be peace. But this scumbag and prior scumbags in his position, want to take, take, take from the people that were there and vilify them and torture them and basically enact genocide right before our eyes.
The filthy hand of the U.S.supports this by supporting Israel in the way they do. This has been going on entirely too long and Israel uses this as political capital.
Ha! It was Sarkozy. Agree.
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I loved when President Obama got caught talking shit about him with the French and I believe it was the Italian Presidents or Prime Ministers...
If that guy wanted peace, there'd be peace. But this scumbag and prior scumbags in his position, want to take, take, take from the people that were there and vilify them and torture them and basically enact genocide right before our eyes.
The filthy hand of the U.S.supports this by supporting Israel in the way they do. This has been going on entirely too long and Israel uses this as political capital.
Its sometimes hard to imagine things in the future - can you imagine the middle east to be oasis of the world? and Europe and America to be poor house of this planet?
You probably can not....
But then I remember clearly a time when I though there is no fucking way in hell that the IRA will stand down that there will be peace in n.Ireland - but look at it now, a war that has gone on for 100 of years and its peace now.
The same can happen anywhere - BUT ONLY if meaningful negotiations happen.
And in regards to N.Ireland that credit goes to the brits, they actually started to REALLY talk to the IRA - and not just to satisfy a political agenda but to actualy seek peace, and it was painful for them but the outcome can not be disputed.
If Israel would step over their own shadow and seriously reach out to the Palestinians and the rest of the world - This place would be heaven.
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Its sometimes hard to imagine things in the future - can you imagine the middle east to be oasis of the world? and Europe and America to be poor house of this planet?
You probably can not....
But then I remember clearly a time when I though there is no fucking way in hell that the IRA will stand down that there will be peace in n.Ireland - but look at it now, a war that has gone on for 100 of years and its peace now.
The same can happen anywhere - BUT ONLY if meaningful negotiations happen.
And in regards to N.Ireland that credit goes to the brits, they actually started to REALLY talk to the IRA - and not just to satisfy a political agenda but to actualy seek peace, and it was painful for them but the outcome can not be disputed.
If Israel would step over their own shadow and seriously reach out to the Palestinians and the rest of the world - This place would be heaven.
Not likely. Netanyahu makes concessionary statements here and there, hints at future negotiations if the Palestinians behave properly, all the while continuing to build settlements and further balkanizing the Palestinian people, making any really practical division of land illusory. Time is on his side and the longer he can spin it out the better.
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Not likely. Netanyahu makes concessionary statements here and there, hints at future negotiations if the Palestinians behave properly, all the while continuing to build settlements and further balkanizing the Palestinian people, making any really practical division of land illusory. Time is on his side and the longer he can spin it out the better.
All I am saying is, just because things are now fucked up doesn't mean it cannot be solved in the future - who knows it maybe takes another 100 years.
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Sean Penn's character "Kleinfeld" the greasy jew lawyer in Carlito's Way, is a perfect analogy for Israel and the US is Carlito. Kleinfeld is always talking shit and getting his ass in trouble and Carlito always has to save his ass. In the end Kleinfeld's fuck ups get them both killed .
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Israel knows that America has their back. The same reason why America won't leave Iraq or Afgan. They want their strategic position for their military. You always hear liberal Jews complain how the NRA and Big Oil are the two largest lobbyists, but they never mention that the most powerful lobbyists are the Jews. That's why any politician can't say a bad thing about them without getting nailed in the media.
The US military is nothing more than a jobs program
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Israel knows that America has their back. The same reason why America won't leave Iraq or Afgan. They want their strategic position for their military. You always hear liberal Jews complain how the NRA and Big Oil are the two largest lobbyists, but they never mention that the most powerful lobbyists are the Jews. That's why any politician can't say a bad thing about them without getting nailed in the media.
The US military is nothing more than a jobs program
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The only religion that isn't dangerous when taken to extremes in the Church of Ron Avidanism.
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The scary thing is, what will israeli scum do now?
Obama/US gov is already quite pro-israel but not 'enough'.
The zionist lobby in the US already suggested a false flag attack to instigate america into another war.
It scares the shit out of me thinking about that, what they would do as another false flag to instigate another war... these people are psychopaths.
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War with Iran on the way
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War with Iran on the way
I don't think so, I don't think the Amercian public could stomach another war right now. If Israel is smart it would start a concerted effort to get a new Govt in Iran on the inside, I don't think the Iranian govt is overly popular with a lot of its own citizens so I don't think it would take much to get another Syria happening in there especially if the revolutionaries want peace with the Israeli's which I'm sure most of them do.
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I don't think so, I don't think the Amercian public could stomach another war right now. If Israel is smart it would start a concerted effort to get a new Govt in Iran on the inside, I don't think the Iranian govt is overly popular with a lot of its own citizens so I don't think it would take much to get another Syria happening in there especially if the revolutionaries want peace with the Israeli's which I'm sure most of them do.
The israeli scum have no business inside or outside of Iran or Syria or any other sovereign nation. Israel can politely go fuck itself.
Whoever said government cares about what people want? Are you joking? I was in the anti-iraq war protests. We were literally in the multi millions, guiness world record of protests in human history. Did any of the governments involved give a shit?
Israel does what it wants, its an evil regime that knows no bounds and that's what scares me, if they cause a massive attack on the US to involve the US in yet another war. They are sick. Zionist lobbies already suggested this!
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Israel and the US will be the ones to start world war 3. It's sickening!
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Lol like you have a balanced or non biased opinion on anything that might involve Islam. You're as brainwashed as any Christian fundamentalist and have zero objectivity. Do NOT reply to my posts as I don't want to hear your muslim rhetoric and nor does anyone else.
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Lol like you have a balanced or non biased opinion on anything that might involve Islam. You're as brainwashed as any Christian fundamentalist and have zero objectivity. Do NOT reply to my posts as I don't want to hear your muslim rhetoric and nor does anyone else.
History is biased even if you don't like it. I speak facts even if you don't like them.
Israel did not exist before 1948. Today Israel has over 300 nuclear warheads, the brave man that leaked the information on Dinoma was kidnapped, tortured and imprisoned for some 20 years. Who gave them nuclear material? THE US!
Israel has attacked every single one if it's neighbours. Even just the last 5 years!
lebanon, syria, iran, sudan, iraq, you name it. Bombings and covert operations.
Does anyone know that Israel bombed Sudan just a few weeks back? Not a single shit was given by dumbstruck westerners.
I am a white European I just happen to have become Muslim and before being Muslim I was well aware of the oppression of both Christians and Muslims by Israelis. One has to know the history of how Israel came ot be to realize what an evil it is. It rules by deception and terror.
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Lol like you have a balanced or non biased opinion on anything that might involve Islam. You're as brainwashed as any Christian fundamentalist and have zero objectivity. Do NOT reply to my posts as I don't want to hear your muslim rhetoric and nor does anyone else.
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Stark I am dissapointed. You severly underestimate the power of the jews and overestimate the power of the President. Obama will continue to be the lapdog of the Jews as he was for the last four years.
(http://ionenewsone.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/jewish20obama2023jul8.jpg)
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"Bring on the money, gimmie gimmie gimmie, give it all" LOL
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I guess people are forgetting about the Jewish newspaper that suggested assassinating Obama if 'necessary':
(http://incogman.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/ADLER-OPED-HIGHLIGHT.jpg)
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I guess people are forgetting about the Jewish newspaper that suggested assassinating Obama if 'necessary':
After June 1967 what on earth makes you think Israel need America's help to turn the whole arab world into a car park?
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I am a white European I just happen to have become Muslim and before being Muslim I was well aware of the oppression of both Christians and Muslims by Israelis. One has to know the history of how Israel came ot be to realize what an evil it is. It rules by deception and terror.
Why the hell would you as a White Europen become a muslim?
I can understand those that grow up in a backwards country with no other options ie being forced to do it by stupid sheepshagging relatives, but you have had a real upbringing with choices fercrissakes!!
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After June 1967 what on earth makes you think Israel need America's help to turn the whole arab world into a car park?
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/usaid.html
http://news.antiwar.com/2009/12/18/obama-approves-30-billion-in-military-aid-to-israel-over-next-decade/
http://frontpagemag.com/2011/david-meir-levi/u-s-aid-to-israel-why-its-a-must/
Let us all not forget that it is ISRAEL who gave America the 'intel' about Iraq having NUKES!
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Why the hell would you as a White Europen become a muslim?
I can understand those that grow up in a backwards country with no other options ie being forced to do it by stupid sheepshagging relatives, but you have had a real upbringing with choices fercrissakes!!
Maybe you think that way because you are ignorant and know nothing about Islam except what your parents/grandparents/family/culture/television/some idiot islamophobes told you? There are tons of them on here.
Islam is a religion for all mankind. Being Muslim is not being Arab. Arab Muslims are the minority of Muslims today fyi.
In the US alone, there are 4 million Muslims of which 1/4 are converts not Arabs/Asians/etc...
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Islam is a religion for all mankind. Being Muslim is not being Arab. Arab Muslims are the minority of Muslims today fyi.
In the US alone, there are 4 million Muslims of which 1/4 are converts not Arabs/Asians/etc...
And why would any white male (who had a decent upbringing in a civilized country) that is decently handsome, is able get a job, can pull chicks and don't need to shag sheep convert to Islam??
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And why would any white male (who had a decent upbringing in a civilized country) that is decently handsome, is able get a job, can pull chicks and don't need to shag sheep convert to Islam??
Islam is the only true religion of God that is uncorrupted and preserved. The only religion that is of absolute monotheism today. The only religion of which we have all the details of revelation preserved. And Muhammad (pbuh) was the final messenger and prophet of God, not for a single people but for all mankind until the day of judgment.
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Islam is the only true religion of God that is uncorrupted and preserved. The only religion that is of absolute monotheism today. The only religion of which we have all the details of revelation preserved. And Muhammad (pbuh) was the final messenger and prophet of God, not for a single people but for all mankind until the day of judgment.
shut the fuck up nutcase.
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Islam is the only true religion of God that is uncorrupted and preserved. The only religion that is of absolute monotheism today. The only religion of which we have all the details of revelation preserved. And Muhammad (pbuh) was the final messenger and prophet of God, not for a single people but for all mankind until the day of judgment.
What about Buddhism?
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I guarantee you Obama will settle some scores with Israel now, the chance that Obama will drag the US into another war with Iran are zero to none, so this is going to get very interesting indeed.
Oh well... if some guy with the IQ of a lima bean guarantees it by posting on a website, who am I to argue. I'll buy 5 gallons of your finest bullshit good sir.
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A? Ahkemed
do you consider becoming a falcon 'instead'
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looks like hitler was right after all :-\
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What about Buddhism?
I studied various religions before becoming Muslim, but while having a Christian upbringing I obviously studied Christianity in depth first. As such I studied Hinduism, Jainism, Sikhism, Buddhism, Shinto as far as far eastern religions go, etc...
Buddhism? An impractical man made religion ultimately riddled with contradictions. Also denies God (saying it doesn't matter whether God exists or doesn't exist is pretty arrogant) and then there's the worship of an idol of Buddha, which makes little sense. They will say they are not idol worshippers, but then alot of things 'appear' and don't 'appear' what they are, everything is a riddle. I don't buy into it. Renouncing desires? Yet there is the need to have a desire to be good, amongst other things too. Desires should be channelled properly not just denied but understood why.
In a nutshell what Buddha himself preached seemed overall good, his journey, and revelation as a prince coming out, was all interesting. However what 'Buddhism' is today, is non-sense to me.
As a Muslim today, I don't find it hard to speculate that Buddha himself was a prophet of God who saw what was going on around him, experiencing life as a prince, then outside and trying to ascertain the truth in his life through his journey. Naturally what happens afterwards, people can pervert the message and teachings, erase and add what they want. Hence an idol of Buddha makes very little sense when he said no such thing. It's also funny that they will say well we are not actually idol worshippers, but then in it is a religion of a lot of contradictions.
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Islam is the only true religion of God that is uncorrupted and preserved. The only religion that is of absolute monotheism today. The only religion of which we have all the details of revelation preserved. And Muhammad (pbuh) was the final messenger and prophet of God, not for a single people but for all mankind until the day of judgment.
Now i know you're not white.
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Now i know you're not white.
lol I guess you never heard about white muslims? Majority of converts to Islam in europe are in France, UK, Holland, and Germany. The US muslim population of 4 million is 1/4 convert (white/black).
The majority of converts to Islam statistically are white university educated women.
Or Chinese who become Muslims:
Or buddhists who become Muslim:
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looks like hitler was right after all :-\
yes hitler was misunderstood.
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There's probably no President in any other country that would have wished for Romney to win as much as Benjamin Netanyahu and there are very good reasons for that.
A) Both Romney and Netanyahu are business partners and worked in the same company before
B) Romney would have support Netanyahu with anything and everything were Netanyahu knows that he will have a much harder time with Obama now.
in the past few month Obama had to take all the shit from Netanyahu because he needs to keep the American Jewish lobby happy before election, now in his last 4 years what has he to loose?
I guarantee you Obama will settle some scores with Israel now, the chance that Obama will drag the US into another war with Iran are zero to none, so this is going to get very interesting indeed.
Netanyahu is no different than Hitler. He tortures/murders Palestine's people and is now hungry for War with Iran. Fuck him.
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Stark I am dissapointed. You severly underestimate the power of the jews and overestimate the power of the President. Obama will continue to be the lapdog of the Jews as he was for the last four years.
(http://ionenewsone.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/jewish20obama2023jul8.jpg)
Exactly!
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looks like hitler was right after all :-\
Pure filt. They should keep it up and we'll see where the chips fall for them. That inbred character sure does look stupid on camera. Would not be hard to nail him to a post.
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yes hitler was misunderstood.
history will be kind to hitler