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Title: Mercedes lease - I am looking into a ml350
Post by: epic_alien on November 21, 2012, 01:59:39 PM
i remember there being a few knowledgeable guys here who know or worked at mercedes,

I am looking into a ml350 for my wife and  I wanted to lease but wanted to know how to approach it with the right angle, so that i dont lose to much money if i decide to buy after the lease is up

what do you think of this vehicle? maintinance ect
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 21, 2012, 02:18:37 PM
If you plan on buying at the end, or are thinking about it, don't lease.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Twaddle on November 21, 2012, 02:22:54 PM
If you're approaching it from the angle that you "don't want to lose money", then don't lease.  The only thing you'll get out of a lease is lost money.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: che on November 21, 2012, 02:24:23 PM
i remember there being a few knowledgeable guys here who know or worked at mercedes,

I am looking into a ml350 for my wife and  I wanted to lease but wanted to know how to approach it with the right angle, so that i dont lose to much money if i decide to buy after the lease is up

what do you think of this vehicle? maintinance ect

If you have to ask, you probably can't afford it  , I hope this helps fake cock.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on November 21, 2012, 02:33:05 PM
i remember there being a few knowledgeable guys here who know or worked at mercedes,

I am looking into a ml350 for my wife and  I wanted to lease but wanted to know how to approach it with the right angle, so that i dont lose to much money if i decide to buy after the lease is up

what do you think of this vehicle? maintinance ect

was going to post what irongrip400 said - the whole point of a lease is so you don't have to deal with the car after three years. 
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: the trainer on November 21, 2012, 02:39:04 PM
i remember there being a few knowledgeable guys here who know or worked at mercedes,

I am looking into a ml350 for my wife and  I wanted to lease but wanted to know how to approach it with the right angle, so that i dont lose to much money if i decide to buy after the lease is up

what do you think of this vehicle? maintinance ect

Buy i brought a 2007 s class mercedes for only 27k got a good deal cause the owner needed the cash, there are good deals out there if you are willing to look.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on November 21, 2012, 02:40:50 PM
Buy i brought a 2007 s class mercedes for only 27k got a good deal cause the owner needed the cash, there are good deals out there if you are willing to look.

why werent you willing to look?
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 21, 2012, 02:42:43 PM
Don't lease. It's a waste of money.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Nirvana on November 21, 2012, 06:58:44 PM
mercedes suck.  you'll lose money on the lease.  then pay double the cars worth getting it repaired all the damn time.

mercedes don't make you any more important so just go ahead and get a japanese
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Hulkotron on November 21, 2012, 07:10:26 PM
Leasing a nice car is a good indication that you can't afford to buy a nice car, in which case you should rethink your decision.

For example would you rather piss away an extra $30k or so on this car or just get a Ford or whatever and pay for your child's college education instead?
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: The RedMeatKid on November 21, 2012, 07:20:07 PM
I've been in automotive sales since 97, and every one of the above answers is inaccurate. If you know what elements of the deal to control you can make it work to your advantage. Personally I think long term ownership of a European car is a mistake, I would opt for a Lexus instead, but that's your business. What you need to take into consideration:
Your credit score
How many miles you need annually
How much money up front do you have budgeted
Do you have a trade?
What do you owe on the trade?
PM me and I'll help you get the best possible deal, or you can be like the other guys around here who know a lot about everything, then wind up buying tire and wheel protection policies and Simonizing.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: 240 is Back on November 21, 2012, 07:23:05 PM
Spend $1200 on a used Oldsmobile.

Then invest the $ you save in hookers and blow, and waste the rest.  
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: pluck on November 21, 2012, 07:29:20 PM
Buy i brought a 2007 s class mercedes for only 27k got a good deal cause the owner needed the cash, there are good deals out there if you are willing to look.

A 2007 s550 for $27k has over 100,000 miles.

That's retarded on so many levels.

Leasing isn't a waste of money if you plan on keeping a car for 2-3 years.
Buying a car makes sense if you're gonna drive for minimum 5 years.

Btw...having a car is NOT AN INVESTMENT. Why do people think that is beyond me.
Investments are things that you make with end goal of making more money than you put in after a set period of time.

Hope this helps...

Btw check out sites like swapalese.com. Decent deals on there for people who want to get rid of leases & sometimes you don't need money down.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 21, 2012, 07:47:46 PM
a car is an expense, not an investment...unless you have the money to buy exotic and rare cars cash on the barrel.

i don't care who you "know", the nicer the car the more you are going to pay to drive it....and not get your money back ever

like two people said....fuck European cars, expensive to repair. get a Lexus. I drive a GS 350 and i love it
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: mogulgangi on November 21, 2012, 08:34:44 PM
i remember there being a few knowledgeable guys here who know or worked at mercedes,

I am looking into a ml350 for my wife and  I wanted to lease but wanted to know how to approach it with the right angle, so that i dont lose to much money if i decide to buy after the lease is up

what do you think of this vehicle? maintinance ect

Please do this and you will be like me...driving a 2012 Mercedes for the price of a Honda

Go to lease trader or those bullshit website where you switch leases...look for advertising near you city..the independent companies...call them ask ask for a quote on what you whant..what ever they give you in the quote.(.rememeber to tell them what you wont spend max wise)tell them that you have a better offer from someone from the website you founds his advertising....this is where you control your payment..what ever he offered you..lower it reasonably 100-300 dollars..tell him not to call you back if he can't match offer..that your going to get the other offer soon if he doesn't match..do with a serious voice...99 percent of the time they will budge in their commission and lower it to whatever you told him..watch out with closing costs adds he does..minimize those with the fake other offer..the extend you want to play with this guy is up to you..have him email you this offer...take this offer to your local Mercedes Benz..let the sales guy know that you want to do business now..you have an offer..you give it to him..let him know that if they are willing to beat the offer to call you..but not to waste your time..only serious ...

In the mean time budge with the other guy for time..

Take best offer
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: The RedMeatKid on November 21, 2012, 08:48:54 PM
Dude, the advice here is not favorable. PM me.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: blinky on November 21, 2012, 08:53:03 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Schnauzer on November 21, 2012, 08:53:11 PM
Lots of false information about leasing in this thread. I wonder how many of the people saying "leasing sucks" have actually leased a vehicle.
It is a smart way to maximize your dollar and to sidestep the steep depreciation of a car's first two years.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Tapeworm on November 21, 2012, 09:03:07 PM
I've been in automotive sales since 97, and every one of the above answers is inaccurate. If you know what elements of the deal to control you can make it work to your advantage.

PM me and I'll help you get the best possible deal


Haha car salesmen.  ::) If you have Top Secret magical beans knowledge to share then spill it.  Otherwise go drip your slime somewhere else.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: The RedMeatKid on November 21, 2012, 09:47:37 PM

Haha car salesmen.  ::) If you have Top Secret magical beans knowledge to share then spill it.  Otherwise go drip your slime somewhere else.
Fuck off loser. 
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: 240 is Back on November 21, 2012, 09:53:06 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=448907.0;attach=492916;image)

amazing suit right there.  What is that style called?
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: sync pulse on November 21, 2012, 10:22:48 PM
It depends on how much you enjoy driving a fast, responsive, yet comfortable feeling car.  The Germans are unexcelled in designing cars that are pleasureable to drive.

Mercedes, Porsche are expensive to drive even if you can buy one cheaply due to the maintenance/repair.  A Volkswagen Golf GTI with a six speed manual transmission will deliver 85-90 percent of the driving pleasure of a Mercedes or Porsche at a much lower lifetime cost.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: AbrahamG on November 21, 2012, 10:25:06 PM
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amazing suit right there.  What is that style called?

Small tits, but loving the fat pussy.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Schnauzer on November 21, 2012, 10:30:07 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=448907.0;attach=492916;image)

amazing suit right there.  What is that style called?

Snatch patch
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Wiggs on November 21, 2012, 11:45:32 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=448907.0;attach=492916;image)

amazing suit right there.  What is that style called?

The peacemaker
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: epic_alien on November 22, 2012, 08:19:40 AM
thank you for the information, i appreciate it
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: G_Thang on November 22, 2012, 09:13:16 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=448907.0;attach=492916;image)

amazing suit right there.  What is that style called?

That photo just gave me a boner. Ron, you know how I can contact her, so I can sweet talk and tear that up.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: BIG ACH on November 22, 2012, 10:39:13 AM
As a side note. I own an 06 ML350. The car is really a joy to drive.  You will not be disappointed.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: dr.chimps on November 22, 2012, 11:02:15 AM
As a side note. I own an 06 ML350. The car is really a joy to drive.  You will not be disappointed.
Ah yes. I remember my student ride, too:  a RR Silver Ghost. 
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on November 22, 2012, 11:10:06 AM
Ah yes. I remember my student ride, too:  a RR Silver Ghost. 

your dad is an egyptian pasha too?  what's it like having to take the silver spoon out of your mouth every time you want to talk?
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 22, 2012, 11:31:35 AM
your dad is an egyptian pasha too?  what's it like having to take the silver spoon out of your mouth every time you want to talk?

Why do you think it's practically impossible to get under the guy's skin?  I'd be pretty unflappable, and perpetually pleasant too, if i knew that myself and the next ten generations of my family are set for life the moment they are born.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 22, 2012, 11:32:17 AM
Leasing should be called what it is, renting. Guys showing off their leased cars is like a guy saying check out my girlfriend and it's a rented prostitute.

If you are a leasing fan look at how much money you will spend in 12 years leasing cars. If you can't afford  to buy an expensive car outright and you lease them for years you will throw away a lot of money away. Buy a car that that has a great reputation for reliability and keep it for 6 to 10 years.

The worse guy to get car buying advice is a car salesman. Also sources like Consumer reports and Edmunds gives you an idea what you can get the car for but they are really off. I once did 4K cheaper on a car that consumer reports claimed a dealer paid for it. Did the dealer make a profit on me. Hell yes. Dealers do not sell cars for a $100 dollar profit. They would be better off selling cookies door to door. This nonsense that you  bought a car and they made chump change is the biggest con game going. They want you to leave thinking you beat them. They make thousands per car. What happens when they buy in bulk the get a different price depending on how many cars they buy. Car salesmen aren't privy to that information. I learned this from being involved with the government  buying Crown Vics and Dodge Durangos  under what any source on the internet said a dealer pays for the car.  Don't ask to see the tissue invoice because you will be conned by bull shit paper.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 22, 2012, 11:40:01 AM
Leasing should be called what it is, renting. Guys showing off their leased cars is like a guy saying check out my girlfriend and it's a rented prostitute.

If you are a leasing fan look at how much money you will spend in 12 years leasing cars. If you can't afford  to buy an expensive car outright and you lease them for years you will throw away a lot of money away. Buy a car that that has a great reputation for reliability and keep it for 6 to 10 years.

The worse guy to get car buying advice is a car salesman. Also sources like Consumer reports and Edmunds gives you an idea what you can get the car for but they are really off. I once did 4K cheaper on a car that consumer reports claimed a dealer paid for it. Did the dealer make a profit on me. Hell yes. Dealers do not sell cars for a $100 dollar profit. They would be better off selling cookies door to door. This nonsense that you  bought a car and they made chump change is the biggest con game going. They want you to leave thinking you beat them. They make thousands per car. What happens when they buy in bulk the get a different price depending on how many cars they buy. Car salesmen aren't privy to that information. I learned this from being involved with the government  buying Crown Vics and Dodge Durangos  under what any source on the internet said a dealer pays for the car.  Don't ask to see the tissue invoice because you will be conned by bull shit paper.

Good post.

A friend of mine owns multiple towing companies in Phoenix.  he tows repos. cars that have been seized by Police, broken down cars, etc..

Over 70% of these cars are never reclaimed. the owner got deported, went to jail, couldn't afford to fix it, whatever....and after 30 days, they are his cars...for FREE.   and guess what....it just so happens that my friend ALSO owns 6 used car dealerships where he sells these cars that he got for free for thousands of dollars at astronomical interest rates

New cars, used cars...the automotive industry is the racket of rackets.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Stark on November 22, 2012, 11:47:40 AM
Please do this and you will be like me...driving a 2012 Mercedes for the price of a Honda

Go to lease trader or those bullshit website where you switch leases...look for advertising near you city..the independent companies...call them ask ask for a quote on what you whant..what ever they give you in the quote.(.rememeber to tell them what you wont spend max wise)tell them that you have a better offer from someone from the website you founds his advertising....this is where you control your payment..what ever he offered you..lower it reasonably 100-300 dollars..tell him not to call you back if he can't match offer..that your going to get the other offer soon if he doesn't match..do with a serious voice...99 percent of the time they will budge in their commission and lower it to whatever you told him..watch out with closing costs adds he does..minimize those with the fake other offer..the extend you want to play with this guy is up to you..have him email you this offer...take this offer to your local Mercedes Benz..let the sales guy know that you want to do business now..you have an offer..you give it to him..let him know that if they are willing to beat the offer to call you..but not to waste your time..only serious ...

In the mean time budge with the other guy for time..

Take best offer




You didn't do that but you saw recently a video ( live leak I believe) where a guy precisely told the same story
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: G_Thang on November 22, 2012, 11:48:01 AM
Good post.

A friend of mine owns multiple towing companies in Phoenix.  he tows repos. cars that have been seized by Police, broken down cars, etc..

Over 70% of these cars are never reclaimed. the owner got deported, went to jail, couldn't afford to fix it, whatever....and after 30 days, they are his cars...for FREE.   and guess what....it just so happens that my friend ALSO owns 6 used car dealerships where he sells these cars that he got for free for thousands of dollars at astronomical interest rates

New cars, used cars...the automotive industry is the racket of rackets.

i hope he got you a car at cost (you said $0), or did you pay through the nose too?  now, don't lie.

the yr i got my accord ex, i knew two people with the same model.  i ended up paying $0 down and $365 a month while the other two did cash down and paid from $425 - $500 a month. now, of course the dealer made a profit off of me, but I probably got one of the better deals in a  buyers group, so i did ok.  that's a good indicator.   
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: The Scott on November 22, 2012, 11:51:14 AM
My lease on my wife's C300 is drawing to an end.  Leasing is "renting".  If you are comfortable with that (as we have been), then by all means lease.  If not, buy.
We are considering both options.   It has been a good car but she is used to a new car ever few years.  This most recent lease was for 27 months.  I will not be buying the car at the end.  She needs to decide what she wants and whether or not we an afford it.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 22, 2012, 11:53:23 AM
i hope he got you a car at cost (you said $0), or did you pay through the nose too?  now, don't lie.


I paid next to nothing for my car(s). i drive a different car every six months, i just go onto his lot and pick out what i like, slap a dealer plate on it and drive it away
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: G_Thang on November 22, 2012, 11:54:43 AM
My lease on my wife's C300 is drawing to an end.  Leasing is "renting".  If you are comfortable with that (as we have been), then by all means lease.  If not, buy.
We are considering both options.   It has been a good car but she is used to a new car ever few years.  This most recent lease was for 27 months.  I will not be buying the car at the end.  She needs to decide what she wants and whether or not we an afford it.

as long as i'm under contract for my research firm, they keep me in leased vehicle, but the brain trust on getbig would have me go out and buy and eat the difference once i drive off of the lot again.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: G_Thang on November 22, 2012, 11:55:45 AM

I paid next to nothing for my car(s). i drive a different car every six months, i just go onto his lot and pick out what i like, slap a dealer plate on it and drive it away

why are you just telling us this now?  we've had many of car threads.  you're  lying.

my sister's ex had his dealers gig, and everyone had to pay, including her.  ::)

why some man is going to keep you in a fresh set of wheels for nothing?
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: The Scott on November 22, 2012, 11:56:14 AM
as long as i'm under contract for my research firm, they keep me in leased vehicle, but the brain trust on getbig would have me go out and buy and eat the difference once i drive off of the lot again.

Yup.  A lease can be a good thing, especially so in your case.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 22, 2012, 11:57:14 AM
why are you just telling us this now?  we've had many of car threads.  you're  lying.

Really...ok  ;)

I could write a book of things i don't say here.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: The Scott on November 22, 2012, 11:59:25 AM
Really...ok  ;)

I could write a book of things i don't say here.

Yes, but would any care to actually buy it?   ;D  ;)

Happy Thanksgiving!
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: G_Thang on November 22, 2012, 12:00:43 PM
Really...ok  ;)

I could write a book of things i don't say here.

read above.  

why is another man, boy or not, going to keep you in new wheels every 6 months?  i saw guys running chop shops in the south years ago, and they still had people paying before they got busted, as usual.  You are full of shit.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Hulkotron on November 22, 2012, 12:03:04 PM
Leasing should be called what it is, renting. Guys showing off their leased cars is like a guy saying check out my girlfriend and it's a rented prostitute.

x2
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 22, 2012, 12:06:52 PM
why are you just telling us this now?  we've had many of car threads.  you're  lying.

my sister's ex had his dealers gig, and everyone had to pay, including her.  ::)

why some man is going to keep you in a fresh set of wheels for nothing?

did he get his cars for free ?....200 of them a month?

and the best thing is.... if he can't sell them, since they are towed under city contracts, AZ pays him about 600 a car, doesn't matter if it a burned out hull.

when i say RACKET, I'm not kidding.....he spits on the cars he gives me....... and he doesn't GIVE them to me...but to say i get a fucking DEEP discount would be an understatement. You wouldn't believe me if i told you how much i paid for my current car...a GS350.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 22, 2012, 12:08:47 PM
read above.  

why is another man, boy or not, going to keep you in new wheels every 6 months?  i saw guys running chop shops in the south years ago, and they still had people paying before they got busted, as usual.  You are full of shit.


chop shops and legit businesses are two different things, and I  have done my VERY good friend quite a few solids myself  ;)

are you fucking jealous or something ? jesus  ::)
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: The RedMeatKid on November 22, 2012, 12:10:32 PM
Leasing:

 Selling Price-Residual Value=Depreceation

 (Depreciation x Money Factor)÷term=Base Monthly Payment
 
 Base Monthly Payment x State Sales Tax=Total Monthly Payment
 
This is not renting. It is financing the portion of the car you are using, with the option to either turn the vehicle in or purchase the vehicle for the Residual Value. I guarantee you 70% of BMW's and Benz's are leased and not purchased. People who both make and understand money realize that purchasing a vehicle isn't always optimal. People who don't make and understand money call it "renting".
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: The Scott on November 22, 2012, 12:13:01 PM
Leasing:

 Selling Price-Residual Value=Depreceation

 (Depreciation X Money Factor)÷term=Base Monthly Payment
 
 Base Monthly Payment X State Sales Tax=Total Monthly Payment
 
This is not renting. It is financing the portion of the car you are using, with the option to either turn the vehicle in or purchase the vehicle for the Residual Value. I guarantee you 70% of BMW's and Benz's are leased and not purchased. People who both make and understand money realize that purchasing a vehicle isn't always optimal. People who don't make and understand money call it "renting".

Yes, I understand it all but simplify it by referring to it as "renting".
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on November 22, 2012, 12:13:53 PM

 I  have done my VERY good friend quite a few solids myself  ;)


everyone needs a little tv/microwave repair from time to time  ;)
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 22, 2012, 12:14:11 PM
Leasing:

 Selling Price-Residual Value=Depreceation

 (Depreciation X Money Factor)÷term=Base Monthly Payment
 
 Base Monthly Payment X State Sales Tax=Total Monthly Payment
 
This is not renting. It is financing the portion of the car you are using, with the option to either turn the vehicle in or purchase the vehicle for the Residual Value. I guarantee you 70% of BMW's and Benz's are leased and not purchased. People who both make and understand money realize that purchasing a vehicle isn't always optimal. People who don't make and understand money call it "renting".

Semantics

rent with option to buy, same fucking thing.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 22, 2012, 12:15:56 PM
everyone needs a little tv/microwave repair from time to time  ;)

If only i was a Neurosurgeon/ F1 driver like you  ::)
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: G_Thang on November 22, 2012, 12:17:51 PM

chop shops and legit businesses are two different things, and I  have done my VERY good friend quite a few solids myself  ;)

are you fucking jealous or something ? jesus  ::)

i'm not alex23, averher or whatever his username is or one of your fans on getbig .  you're not that important, but you are lying. no man is going to keep you in a new ride every 6 months unless you are gay.  it just don't work that way.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on November 22, 2012, 12:18:16 PM
If only i was a Neurosurgeon/ F1 driver like you  ::)

guess your dad wasnt an egyptian pasha  :)
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: The RedMeatKid on November 22, 2012, 12:19:20 PM
Semantics

rent with option to buy, same fucking thing.
Not even close. Go try renting a car from Enterprise for 36 months and see what you pay. The formula a rental company uses is profoundly different than leasing. Apples and oranges. For those who can't stand being wrong: too bad. You are.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 22, 2012, 12:19:57 PM
i'm not alex23 or averher or whatever his username is.  you're not that important, but you are lying. no man is going to keep you in a new ride every 6 months unless you are gay.  it just don't work that way.

Ok then  ::)
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: G_Thang on November 22, 2012, 12:21:07 PM
Not even close. Go try renting a car from Enterprise for 36 months and see what you pay. The formula a rental company uses is profoundly different than leasing. Apples and oranges. For those who can't stand being wrong: too bad. You are.

he doesn't need to know the formula because his boyfriend keeps him in a new car every 6 months free of charge.   
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 22, 2012, 12:23:34 PM
Not even close. Go try renting a car from Enterprise for 36 months and see what you pay. The formula a rental company uses is profoundly different than leasing. Apples and oranges. For those who can't stand being wrong: too bad. You are.

because they are in the short term renting business

car dealers are in the long term renting business.


I realize the financial models are vastly different, and i don't know the inner workings, but renting something..is renting something.

a night at the Marriott costs $190

if you book an extended stay hotel, you pay 40 a night
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: G_Thang on November 22, 2012, 12:24:11 PM
Ok then  ::)

i have a car from my contractor in san diego, but i still have to cover the maintenance.  they cover cost and insurance.  on the backend i make money for them.  your buddy just eats money on cars every six months because he loves you.  you're a bigger clown than that fool in canada, who was harassing you.  then again, birds of a feather flock together.  
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 22, 2012, 12:26:06 PM
i have a car from my contractor in san diego, but i still have to cover the maintenance.  they cover cost and insurance.  on the backend i make money for them.  your buddy just eats money on cars every six months because he loves you.  you're a bigger clown than that fool in canada, who was harassing you.  then again, birds of a feather flock together.  

he eats money on cars he got for free ?

and show me where i said he GIVES them to me, moron  ;)

seem to have touched a nerve here, i guess you never get the hook-up. I ALWAYS do  :D
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 22, 2012, 12:26:57 PM
Jay Cutler wishes he would have listened to people who told him to "RENT" a house in Vegas instead of buy one.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Hulkotron on November 22, 2012, 12:28:36 PM
I've never known anyone who "leased" a car who

(1) didn't try to hide the fact that they leased it
(2) wasn't at least a little bit of a loser
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: tommywishbone on November 22, 2012, 12:30:45 PM
Jay Cutler wishes he would have listened to people who told him to "RENT" a house in Vegas instead of buy one.

 ;D  How is Cutler? I heard he was in some sort of financial distress.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Tapeworm on November 22, 2012, 12:31:00 PM
Leasing:

 Selling Price-Residual Value=Depreceation

 (Depreciation x Money Factor)÷term=Base Monthly Payment
 
 Base Monthly Payment x State Sales Tax=Total Monthly Payment
 
This is not renting. It is financing the portion of the car you are using, with the option to either turn the vehicle in or purchase the vehicle for the Residual Value. I guarantee you 70% of BMW's and Benz's are leased and not purchased. People who both make and understand money realize that purchasing a vehicle isn't always optimal. People who don't make and understand money call it "renting".

Wow, gold.   You really do know all the secrets of The Brotherhood of the Plaid Jacket.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: The RedMeatKid on November 22, 2012, 12:34:44 PM
I've never known anyone who "leased" a car who

(1) didn't try to hide the fact that they leased it
(2) wasn't at least a little bit of a loser
And how many people with 800 credit scores who lease a 7 series for $1000 a month have even heard of you?
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 22, 2012, 12:36:10 PM
Wow, gold.   You really do know all the secrets of The Brotherhood of the Plaid Jacket.

yes, because when you rent a property, you don't figure out the same exact type of shit or anything..LOLOL ::)
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: 240 is Back on November 22, 2012, 12:40:11 PM
Leasing should be called what it is, renting. Guys showing off their leased cars is like a guy saying check out my girlfriend and it's a rented prostitute.

one could argue that's often the case, for both genders
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Tapeworm on November 22, 2012, 12:54:32 PM
yes, because when you rent a property, you don't figure out the same exact type of shit or anything..LOLOL ::)

Deprecation x The Money Factor, bro.  He knows sekrit knowledges. 
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Grape Ape on November 22, 2012, 12:58:09 PM
Just last month I found a gorgeous 2007 350 with only 27k miles for 19,900.  Did not buy because my wife dint like the color.  If you're patient and utilize eBay and Craigslist, you will eventually find a great deal.  Just takes time.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: The RedMeatKid on November 22, 2012, 01:02:33 PM
Deprecation x The Money Factor, bro.  He knows sekrit knowledges. 
You guys sound like hillbillies.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: bike nut on November 22, 2012, 01:05:04 PM
Not even close. Go try renting a car from Enterprise for 36 months and see what you pay. The formula a rental company uses is profoundly different than leasing. Apples and oranges. For those who can't stand being wrong: too bad. You are.

You're a fucking used car salesman......bwahahahah ahaha!

You eat shit all day to make $112/week selling Kias.

Hahahahahahaha....
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Hulkotron on November 22, 2012, 01:23:35 PM
The RimMeKid is receiving a savage owning in this thread.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Tapeworm on November 22, 2012, 01:27:19 PM
The RimMeKid is receiving a savage owning in this thread.

No trade-in for you!  >:(
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Schnauzer on November 22, 2012, 01:32:41 PM
Leasing should be called what it is, renting. Guys showing off their leased cars is like a guy saying check out my girlfriend and it's a rented prostitute.

If you are a leasing fan look at how much money you will spend in 12 years leasing cars. If you can't afford  to buy an expensive car outright and you lease them for years you will throw away a lot of money away. Buy a car that that has a great reputation for reliability and keep it for 6 to 10 years.


Yes, it is renting because you always rent items that depreciate i.e. cars; always buy items that appreciate, like property, houses, and gold. I lease not because I can't

afford to buy (because I can), but because it is financially smarter. If you don't like it, don't lease, but don't spread misinformation about it. I have leased my last 5 cars because it

works for me. How many have you leased?
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: G_Thang on November 22, 2012, 01:35:23 PM
Yes, it is renting because you always rent items that depreciate i.e. cars; always buy items that appreciate, like property, houses, and gold. I lease not because I can't

afford to buy (because I can), but because it is financially smarter. If you don't like it, don't lease, but don't spread misinformation about it. I have leased my last 5 cars because it

works for me. How many have you leased?

i wouldn't mind leasing but 15k miles won't get you through 6 months in cali, let alone 12.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: The RedMeatKid on November 22, 2012, 01:44:24 PM
The RimMeKid is receiving a savage owning in this thread.
Not hardly. I am correct about what defines an automotive lease. The more yourself and others try to appear knowledgable, the more adverse effect is realized. Nobody who understands automotive financing would agree a word of your bullshit.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Tapeworm on November 22, 2012, 01:51:35 PM
Two fuckin years I've been waiting for you already.  Gimmie the rest of the damn rabbit you son of a bitch.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Schnauzer on November 22, 2012, 01:58:02 PM
i wouldn't mind leasing but 15k miles won't get you through 6 months in cali, let alone 12.

I live in the OC and mileage has never been a problem

1. At the time of the lease you can specify how many miles you want, from 10K/year up to 30K/year.
    If you need higher than that the dealership can usually put together a high-mile lease that meets your needs.

2. If you are in a lease and exceeding your miles you can go back to the dealership and they will adjust your lease to a higher mileage.

I like leasing because it gives the consumer far more flexibility than buying and because the initial cost of entry is cheaper because you don't have to pay all the taxes up front.
You only pay tax on the part of the car you use, and that tax is divided up among your payments.

The bottom line: Is your money working for you, or are you working for your money?
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: King Shizzo on November 22, 2012, 03:50:15 PM
a car is an expense, not an investment...unless you have the money to buy exotic and rare cars cash on the barrel.

i don't care who you "know", the nicer the car the more you are going to pay to drive it....and not get your money back ever

like two people said....fuck European cars, expensive to repair. get a Lexus. I drive a GS 350 and i love it
sorry groink, but im sure a Lexus GS would cost just as much as a comparable class of BMW, Mercedes, and Jaguar.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Nirvana on November 22, 2012, 03:58:39 PM
sorry groink, but im sure a Lexus GS would cost just as much as a comparable class of BMW, Mercedes, and Jaguar.
yes but much cheaper repairs and maintenance
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: King Shizzo on November 22, 2012, 04:10:42 PM
Just do what I did. Buy a muscle car (this is Getbig) and cut the sleeves off of your small,  American Eagle polo.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: BIG ACH on November 22, 2012, 05:29:55 PM
Why do you think it's practically impossible to get under the guy's skin?  I'd be pretty unflappable, and perpetually pleasant too, if i knew that myself and the next ten generations of my family are set for life the moment they are born.

I guess that's why I'm going for my third engineering degree.  Yep.. proof right there  ::)
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 22, 2012, 05:33:32 PM
I guess that's why I'm going for my third engineering degree.  Yep.. proof right there  ::)

so it is possible, who knew  ;D

And to retort, yes that's called being a perpetual student. you are what...30?   married, own a beautiful home and drive a mercedes, and you go to college for a living....thanks for proving my point
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: BIG ACH on November 22, 2012, 05:37:32 PM
so it is possible, who knew  ;D

And to retort, yes that's called being a perpetual student. you are what...30?   married, own a beautiful home and drive a mercedes, and you go to college for a living....thanks for proving my point

OK chief,  I also work for my family's manufacturing business, own my own business on the side, and work on campus as a research assistant to cover the cost of the tuition!

So yeah moot point!
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: polychronopolous on November 22, 2012, 05:41:10 PM
Just do what I did. Buy a muscle car (this is Getbig) and cut the sleeves off of your small,  American Eagle polo.

 ;D
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Bevo on November 22, 2012, 05:41:38 PM
OK chief,  I also work for my family's manufacturing business, own my own business on the side, and work on campus as a research assistant to cover the cost of the tuition!

So yeah moot point!

Point is u wouldn't have any of that if your family wasn't well off to began with. It's much easier for someone to go to college, start a business, if your family is already rich..

Not a knock my Egyptian Jason Biggs friend
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 22, 2012, 05:42:34 PM
OK chief,  I also work for my family's manufacturing business, own my own business on the side, and work on campus as a research assistant to cover the cost of the tuition!

So yeah moot point!

wow someone is a Little sensitive about being a rich kid.  why? i would say.."that's right bitch, I don't have to work a day in my life"....i don't get people like you that try and bullshit that they don 't have it easy. i wish i had parents like that
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 22, 2012, 05:45:37 PM
Point is u wouldn't have any of that if your family wasn't well off to began with. It's much easier for someone to go to college, start a business, if your family is already rich..

Not a knock my Egyptian Jason Biggs friend

he proved my point for me with his first post, and then did an even better job of it with his second..LOL

I also like Ach, good guy
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: BIG ACH on November 22, 2012, 05:48:51 PM
wow someone is a Little sensitive about being a rich kid.  why? i would say.."that's right bitch, I don't have to work a day in my life"....i don't get people like you that try and bullshit that they don 't have it easy. i wish i had parents like that

Groink you miss my point.  I like you so I'm not gonna try to get in an argument with you.

I have never tried to act like I don't have it easy.  Yes I probably don't have to work a day in my life, but I do.  my point is that I want to go much further than what I can if I didn't try, this is why im doing a PhD now, because I want to do more than just "live" off my parents money.

And fyi my wife works a full-time job too!
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Nomad on November 22, 2012, 06:13:46 PM
mercedes suck.  you'll lose money on the lease.  then pay double the cars worth getting it repaired all the damn time.

mercedes don't make you any more important so just go ahead and get a japanese

This.

Do not buy Euro-scheisse. Instead get a nice used Lexus and save some money of the inflated brand new stick price. Ironically because Lexuses take a while to depreciate significantly you might not save much but they are also built like tanks so maintenance costs are very low compared to Euro-scheisse.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: leadhead on November 22, 2012, 08:20:46 PM
Leasing should be called what it is, renting. Guys showing off their leased cars is like a guy saying check out my girlfriend and it's a rented prostitute.

If you are a leasing fan look at how much money you will spend in 12 years leasing cars. If you can't afford  to buy an expensive car outright and you lease them for years you will throw away a lot of money away. Buy a car that that has a great reputation for reliability and keep it for 6 to 10 years.

The worse guy to get car buying advice is a car salesman. Also sources like Consumer reports and Edmunds gives you an idea what you can get the car for but they are really off. I once did 4K cheaper on a car that consumer reports claimed a dealer paid for it. Did the dealer make a profit on me. Hell yes. Dealers do not sell cars for a $100 dollar profit. They would be better off selling cookies door to door. This nonsense that you  bought a car and they made chump change is the biggest con game going. They want you to leave thinking you beat them. They make thousands per car. What happens when they buy in bulk the get a different price depending on how many cars they buy. Car salesmen aren't privy to that information. I learned this from being involved with the government  buying Crown Vics and Dodge Durangos  under what any source on the internet said a dealer pays for the car.  Don't ask to see the tissue invoice because you will be conned by bull shit paper.

Solid post. I can also say they don't make chump change no matter what they tell you. My family owns multiple dealerships and I grew up learning alot about the business. They are normally making an avg of $2k per new sale and used is much higher; 3,500 or so. Used cars is where the most money is made. Dealerships in larger metro areas with alot of overhead make much more.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: BIG ACH on November 22, 2012, 08:42:36 PM
I feel like leasing a car could be more beneficial than buying under two circumstances:

1.  You don't drive much, and thus won't go over the mileage limit and pay the ridiculous 20 cents per mile over the limit.

2.  If its a short term lease (like 2 years), and you lease a new car then you won't have to deal with too much maintenance costs.... if its a high quality vehicle, then chances are it really won't start showing major problems until 4 or 5 years in so you'd be OK.


Other than that maybe you're better off buying!
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: jude2 on November 22, 2012, 08:47:26 PM
I like the BMW three year lease, because they include all maintenance cost, even wind sheild wipers. Soon all the top cars will have this to compete with BMW.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Bevo on November 22, 2012, 11:14:31 PM
I like the BMW three year lease, because they include all maintenance cost, even wind sheild wipers. Soon all the top cars will have this to compete with BMW.

Yep but bmw cars are getting soft and losing comparos left and right, new 3 series losing to the ATS caddy and audi s4,  m5 mixed reviews and lost to S6 and e63 amg. Reg 5 series can't hold a candle to the Audi A6 or even the new lexus gs 350.

Bmws has seen better days they are geared towards luxury now more than the whole driving experience of the past. Either the competition has caught up or they shot themselves in the foot going too soft.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Rhomboids on November 23, 2012, 06:58:57 AM
I remember buying my first car: Acura Integra '97.  It wasn't 1997 though.  I was buying it outright for 15K at the time.  Before walking out the dealership, this salesguy with a pesky, 'i know something you don't know' attitude pulled me into his office.  He was like, 'let me ask you, why aren't you financing it instead?'  I was like, show me how i can save money and i will.  He had nothing to say.

I've always got cars in the 10-20K range.  Only sold them when something went very wrong.  Always Japanese.  Acura>Lexus.  The smart money is in buying, not leasing.  I know people that have money and lease.  I also know people who have a lot of money but buy.  I always rather spend 15K on a Luxury or near Luxury car that's four or five years old then a new one that is...less well built. 

With the Japanese cars, like Lexus for example, you can find great deals on parts and most mechanics can service them.  It's the Germans that are mad expensive for parts and service. 

But fuck if i care if someone thinks leasing is better.  If you're not pulling the far side of 200K with no kids, good luck with that lease.  People look at car differently from a computer, shoes or a TV.  If you don't have the money to pay for it outright, it's out of your league. 
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on November 23, 2012, 07:04:51 AM
OK chief,  I also work for my family's manufacturing business, own my own business on the side, and work on campus as a research assistant to cover the cost of the tuition!

So yeah moot point!

i think you mean to put "" around work, correct? as in, "I also "work" for my family's manufacturing business."
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 23, 2012, 07:19:53 AM
i think you mean to put "" around work, correct? as in, "I also "work" for my family's manufacturing business."

Yes, Ach is a busy boy, indeed. works for his family business, has his OWN business, works on campus, and is a full time college student. oh...he's also married and goes to the gym...where does he find the time.....LOLOL.

Ach's cool people, more power to him. just busting Ach  :D
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Raymondo on November 23, 2012, 07:44:15 AM
Why do you think it's practically impossible to get under the guy's skin?  I'd be pretty unflappable, and perpetually pleasant too, if i knew that myself and the next ten generations of my family are set for life the moment they are born.

It's far (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=435446.msg6242151#msg6242151) from impossible  ;D

Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Tito24 on November 23, 2012, 08:34:35 AM
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Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: pluck on November 23, 2012, 10:06:22 AM
Yep but bmw cars are getting soft and losing comparos left and right, new 3 series losing to the ATS caddy and audi s4,  m5 mixed reviews and lost to S6 and e63 amg. Reg 5 series can't hold a candle to the Audi A6 or even the new lexus gs 350.

Bmws has seen better days they are geared towards luxury now more than the whole driving experience of the past. Either the competition has caught up or they shot themselves in the foot going too soft.

Those reviewed are subjective & the quantitative numbers like hp/torque/0-60 are all fairly close 

There aren't many reviews on long term reliability on vehicles...you have to go on vehicle specific forums & see what sort of problems vehicles are prone to.

Also even If a new vehicle does have problems...who gives a FCk. It's called factory warranty.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: tommywishbone on November 23, 2012, 10:10:48 AM
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Tito saving us from this automotive madness. Thank you good sir.
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 23, 2012, 10:13:58 AM
Tito saving us from this automotive madness. Thank you good sir.

big natural tits are the nutriment of life
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: pluck on November 23, 2012, 10:23:08 AM
I live in the OC and mileage has never been a problem

1. At the time of the lease you can specify how many miles you want, from 10K/year up to 30K/year.
    If you need higher than that the dealership can usually put together a high-mile lease that meets your needs.

2. If you are in a lease and exceeding your miles you can go back to the dealership and they will adjust your lease to a higher mileage.

I like leasing because it gives the consumer far more flexibility than buying and because the initial cost of entry is cheaper because you don't have to pay all the taxes up front.
You only pay tax on the part of the car you use, and that tax is divided up among your payments.

The bottom line: Is your money working for you, or are you working for your money?

Plus you can write off a lease as a business expense!
No brainer there!
Title: Re: Mercedes lease - I am looking into a ml350
Post by: Red Hook on November 23, 2012, 11:27:10 AM
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Title: Re: Mercedes lease - I am looking into a ml350
Post by: Dr.J on November 23, 2012, 03:11:52 PM
epic
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: BIG ACH on November 23, 2012, 06:34:38 PM
It's far (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=435446.msg6242151#msg6242151) from impossible  ;D



Lol I surrendered there after a Brutal self owning!
Title: Re: mercedes lease
Post by: haider on November 23, 2012, 06:36:18 PM
OK chief,  I also work for my family's manufacturing business, own my own business on the side, and work on campus as a research assistant to cover the cost of the tuition!

So yeah moot point!
dang dude, you mentioned this before but still shocks me when you mention it again. Very impressive, how do you manage the workload?
Title: Re: Mercedes lease - I am looking into a ml350
Post by: Roger Bacon on November 23, 2012, 06:45:03 PM
i remember there being a few knowledgeable guys here who know or worked at mercedes,

I am looking into a ml350 for my wife and  I wanted to lease but wanted to know how to approach it with the right angle, so that i dont lose to much money if i decide to buy after the lease is up

what do you think of this vehicle? maintinance ect

Please do yourself a favor and buy a tried and true used Mercedes.  '08 or something, 50k miles or so, well maintained...


Title: Re: Mercedes lease - I am looking into a ml350
Post by: epic_alien on November 23, 2012, 07:03:38 PM
what the fuck is prime cuts doing in this thread? i thought he was all natural, and that he also quit this site and had enough?

has he gone back on his word yet again?  is he continuing his epic stories and lies even still?