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Beautiful state of the union speech.....bringing the troops home.....ending the war in Afghanistan.....and also reforming Medicare and Medicaid....immigration reform......the end of the speech where he had the entire hall going with the gun-control issue and saying that the victims of gun violence deserves a vote......raising the minimum wage....good job!!!
AMAZING!!!!!!! 8)
Another four years.....WOW!!!...take away the spending issue and he's an awesome president
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Rubio speaking to primary voters, not the full nation.
he seems vice-presidential at best. stiff, nervous, trying to please.
I want two candidates in 2016 with supreme confidence who aren't concerned with pleasing anyone. Hilary vs jeb.
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Rubio speaking to primary voters, not the full nation.
he seems vice-presidential at best. stiff, nervous, trying to please.
I want two candidates in 2016 with supreme confidence who aren't concerned with pleasing anyone. Hilary vs jeb.
Hillary V.S Jeb would be awesome.....I don't see Jeb running right now...he will wait until the Republicans fall behind early and are dissatified with their candidates and they will then beg him to run....then he will flirt with running but ultimately won't...I think if Jeb wanted to be president he would have run last time since it would have been easier to beat the bunch of crazies that did run
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Hillary V.S Jeb would be awesome.....I don't see Jeb running right now...he will wait until the Republicans fall behind early and are dissatified with their candidates and they will then beg him to run....then he will flirt with running but ultimately won't...I think if Jeb wanted to be president he would have run last time since it would have been easier to beat the bunch of crazies that did run
hilary - for all her known negatives and being such a polarizing figure...
rubio & christie - still in the honeymoon phase, not nationally vetted...
Hilary is STILL wrecking them both in polls. She's a lifetime legend in american politics and neither of them will beat her.
The repubs would need a SERIOUS heavyweight to run against her to win. Jeb or Mcdonnell or maybe rand paul due to his huge ron paul support.
Rubio, christie are Jindal in 2013... everyone blurts out their name, thne discover they are just average politicians with fewer than 5 years' experience come election time. They will both be ready in 2020. However, I'd much prefer someone who won't look like a clueless child next to hilary.
The big difference is this... we want candidates who aren't fake grinning, eager to please. We want candidates who are so experienced, that they do not give a single solitary fck. Hilary and Jeb. Period. You see lightweights who are name-dropping gun calibers, you see lightweights doing stupid stunts... no smart dem runs in 2016.
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hilary - for all her known negatives and being such a polarizing figure...
rubio & christie - still in the honeymoon phase, not nationally vetted...
Hilary is STILL wrecking them both in polls. She's a lifetime legend in american politics and neither of them will beat her.
The repubs would need a SERIOUS heavyweight to run against her to win. Jeb or Mcdonnell or maybe rand paul due to his huge ron paul support.
Rubio, christie are Jindal in 2013... everyone blurts out their name, thne discover they are just average politicians with fewer than 5 years' experience come election time. They will both be ready in 2020. However, I'd much prefer someone who won't look like a clueless child next to hilary.
The big difference is this... we want candidates who aren't fake grinning, eager to please. We want candidates who are so experienced, that they do not give a single solitary fck. Hilary and Jeb. Period. You see lightweights who are name-dropping gun calibers, you see lightweights doing stupid stunts... no smart dem runs in 2016.
I agree with you about Hillary being a towering figure in politics...and Bill and Hillary aren't gonna make the same mistakes they made running against Obama.....Bill absolutely will not let Hillary lose again!!!...and if Obama gives them access to his voter lists and organizational machine, plus gives them his blessing then Hillary's organization will be amazing
I also agree that it would be nice to have a race without a bunch of fakers who don't move their positions left or right to please particular voting blocs and wind up paying the price for it...
I don't agree with you about Rand Paul...he can't even win a race for president of the local Parent/Teacher Association..not to mention he is another guy who has weird positions once you actually listen to him
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I agree with you about Hillary being a towering figure in politics...and Bill and Hillary aren't gonna make the same mistakes they made running against Obama.....Bill absolutely will not let Hillary lose again!!!...and if Obama gives them access to his voter lists and organizational machine,plus gives them his blessing then Hillary's organization will be amazing
I also agree that that it would be nice to have a race without a bunch of fakers who don't move their positions left or right to please particular voting blocs and wind up paying the price for it...
I don't agree with you about Rand Paul...he can't even win a race for president of the local Parent/Teacher Association..not to mention he is another guy who has weird positions once you actually listen to him
Rand has name power... he'll be 3rd in any GOP primary voter without cracking a fart. Experience? no. But name power means he's viable immediately.
Geez dude... remember in 2012... how eager those candidates were to bend over for every grover norquist, etc? Signing pledges, switching positions, etc.
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Rand has name power... he'll be 3rd in any GOP primary voter without cracking a fart. Experience? no. But name power means he's viable immediately.
Geez dude... remember in 2012... how eager those candidates were to bend over for every grover norquist, etc? Signing pledges, switching positions, etc.
Rand has a name but he's another Michelle Bachmann,..crazy as fuck once you listen to him for five minutes...remember his comment that there is nothing wrong with discrimination because employers should have the right to hire who they want???.....A few of these types of comments and he will be dead in the water.....
I do agree with you about the Conservative candidates bending over and taking it up the ass for Norquist and the Tea Party.....If they make that mistake again its party time for Hillary.....
I just wonder if Joe Biden will actually run as vice-presidents are sometimes obligated to do....I like Joe but no way he beats Hillary....it will be really awkward as for who Obama endorses
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LIBERAL LOGIC:
Romney bringing up benghazi months after it happend = politicizing deaths
Obama using gun violence victims as props and using the sandy hook tragedy to push his agenda = "awesome [speech]"
LMFAO the hypocrisey is staggering....
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LMFAO!!!!
Didn't watch, don't give a shit whatsoever.
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Beautiful state of the union speech.....bringing the troops home.....ending the war in Afghanistan.....and also reforming Medicare and Medicaid....immigration reform......the end of the speech where he had the entire hall going with the gun-control issue and saying that the victims of gun violence deserves a vote......raising the minimum wage....good job!!!
AMAZING!!!!!!! 8)
Another four years.....WOW!!!...take away the spending issue and he's an awesome president
Hahaha, it's funny watching the sheeple get worked up. People like you make it easy to understand how people like Stalin and Pol Pot ended up in power.
Nothing new or impressive about that speech. Another campaign speech with rehashed idea after rehashed idea. Boring.
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Beautiful state of the union speech.....bringing the troops home.....ending the war in Afghanistan.....and also reforming Medicare and Medicaid....immigration reform......
AMAZING!!!!!!! 8)
Another four years.....WOW!!!...take away the spending issue and he's an awesome president
Wait, was this the speech after his first election or the recent one....?
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Hahaha, it's funny watching the sheeple get worked up. People like you make it easy to understand how people like Stalin and Pol Pot ended up in power.
Nothing new or impressive about that speech. Another campaign speech with rehashed idea after rehashed idea. Boring.
Thanks for the recap. Did not watch do not care. ;D.
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3333 owns the mind of the idiotic thread starter.
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LMFAO!!!!
Didn't watch, don't give a shit whatsoever.
why not?....didn't want to see Obama taking his victory lap? ;)
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Hahaha, it's funny watching the sheeple get worked up. People like you make it easy to understand how people like Stalin and Pol Pot ended up in power.
Nothing new or impressive about that speech. Another campaign speech with rehashed idea after rehashed idea. Boring.
keep melting....it was an amazing speech....I know you're hurting...but give the guy his due.....
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3333 owns the mind of the idiotic thread starter.
HA!....me thinks he owns your mind....you guys never ever disagree with him...what does THAT say???He's actually your leader....and again...what does THAT say???
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why not?....didn't want to see Obama taking his victory lap? ;)
Same old garbage cliche riddled pap and flop sweat for idiots
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Same old garbage cliche riddled pap and flop sweat for idiots
a lot of guys love that supposed garbage
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keep melting....it was an amazing speech....I know you're hurting...but give the guy his due.....
Why would I be hurting? It was a boring, rehashed campaign speech.
Polling shows something like 15% of the American populace is in favor of more stimulus spending so why is he pushing it? Because he's a naive child with no idea how to fix anything.
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LIBERAL LOGIC:
Romney bringing up benghazi months after it happend = politicizing deaths
Obama using gun violence victims as props and using the sandy hook tragedy to push his agenda = "awesome [speech]"
LMFAO the hypocrisey is staggering....
Benghazi was a non-issue is the reason. It is not clear cut like you indicated. Also, previous attacks on embassies were actually worse and the response slower. It's two different issues.
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Benghazi was a non-issue is the reason. It is not clear cut like you indicated. Also, previous attacks on embassies were actually worse and the response slower. It's two different issues.
The failure of or govt to properly protect our embassy and over sea representatives when the representatives themselves warned of the impending doom is not a non issue. How would you know what is and isn't an issue for us as Americans?
As pointed out many times gun control legislation will not work in reducing the types of attacks being used to push te agenda, so what's really the non issue?
What are some good Canadian forums I can rant and rave on about how Canada sucks and how I hate it?
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Noted investor, free market advocate, and author Jim Rogers during an interview with Glenn Beck on Wednesday said that Tuesday’s State of the Union address makes you wonder whether President Barack Obama is “delusional” or just a good liar.
Our “debt is psychically impossible to pay off,” Rogers said after Beck asked whether the country has passed the point of no return. “We are the largest debtor nation in the history of the world.”
“If everybody paid 100 percent of their earnings as taxes, we still couldn’t pay it off,” he added.
The famed investor then turned his attention to the president’s statement last night that our economy is getting stronger.
“Mr. Obama said last night that everything is great,” Rogers said, much to Beck’s amusement. He added: “He said that everything is great and that the middle class is on the way back and everything is fine now.”
“I mean, the man is delusional. I was really afraid when I saw that,” he continued on a more serious note. “It’s delusional. It was frightening.”
“I don’t know if he believed it or if he was just lying,” Rogers added.
“I don’t really care at this point,” Beck chimed in, “He’s either the best liar or he is completely delusional. I don’t know which it is, but it doesn’t matter.”
“There’s a whole crowd of good liars out there in Washington,” the famed investor joked.
Rogers and Beck continued, discussing everything from Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.)’s State of the Union response to the global decline in the number of people willing to pursue agriculture (i.e. farming) as a profession.
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Beautiful state of the union speech.....bringing the troops home.....ending the war in Afghanistan.....and also reforming Medicare and Medicaid....immigration reform......the end of the speech where he had the entire hall going with the gun-control issue and saying that the victims of gun violence deserves a vote......raising the minimum wage....good job!!!
AMAZING!!!!!!! 8)
Another four years.....WOW!!!...take away the spending issue and he's an awesome president
What?? Take away the fact he has spent/led the country to the brink of financial disaster? That's a substantial part of his job performance. That's like saying aside from the economy and the war in Iraq, Dubya was an awesome president.
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What?? Take away the fact he has spent/led the country to the brink of financial disaster? That's a substantial part of his job performance. That's like saying aside from the economy and the war in Iraq, Dubya was an awesome president.
HAHAHAHA awesome
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somebody should tell drunk guy in front of concrete wall that north korea has nuclear weapons :D :D
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somebody should tell drunk guy in front of concrete wall that north korea has nuclear weapons :D :D
Only a typical sheep liked OTHUG's speech
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67 Percent Of SOTU Viewers Approve Of Obama’s Speech
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67 Percent Of SOTU Viewers Approve Of Obama’s Speech
Could care less - more bullshit from the piece of shit obama.
Ponies and unicorns for the morons.
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His speaking skills are excellent...hence his ability to lead all these blind mice.
But the content....devoid and devisive as usual.
The guy who claimed tons of bipartisanship couldn't get shit done when he didn't own the Congress. I would like to see what he's gonna get done now.
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Benghazi was a non-issue is the reason. It is not clear cut like you indicated. Also, previous attacks on embassies were actually worse and the response slower. It's two different issues.
very nice response....deadly accurate and spot on
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Noted investor, free market advocate, and author Jim Rogers during an interview with Glenn Beck on Wednesday said that Tuesday’s State of the Union address makes you wonder whether President Barack Obama is “delusional” or just a good liar.
Our “debt is psychically impossible to pay off,” Rogers said after Beck asked whether the country has passed the point of no return. “We are the largest debtor nation in the history of the world.”
“If everybody paid 100 percent of their earnings as taxes, we still couldn’t pay it off,” he added.
The famed investor then turned his attention to the president’s statement last night that our economy is getting stronger.
“Mr. Obama said last night that everything is great,” Rogers said, much to Beck’s amusement. He added: “He said that everything is great and that the middle class is on the way back and everything is fine now.”
“I mean, the man is delusional. I was really afraid when I saw that,” he continued on a more serious note. “It’s delusional. It was frightening.”
“I don’t know if he believed it or if he was just lying,” Rogers added.
“I don’t really care at this point,” Beck chimed in, “He’s either the best liar or he is completely delusional. I don’t know which it is, but it doesn’t matter.”
“There’s a whole crowd of good liars out there in Washington,” the famed investor joked.
Rogers and Beck continued, discussing everything from Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.)’s State of the Union response to the global decline in the number of people willing to pursue agriculture (i.e. farming) as a profession.
First of all once you quote Glenn Beck you've lost me and a lot of other people...everyone knows he's nuts
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What?? Take away the fact he has spent/led the country to the brink of financial disaster? That's a substantial part of his job performance. That's like saying aside from the economy and the war in Iraq, Dubya was an awesome president.
deficits are going to pile up when you've just gone throught the worse economic meltdown since the depression..its not so much that Obama was a big spender, its that tax revenue was way way down
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67 Percent Of SOTU Viewers Approve Of Obama’s Speech
you know the right only recognizes statistics when it backs them up :D
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http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/02/obamas-state-of-the-union-lowestrated-since-156993.html
Lol.
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deficits are going to pile up when you've just gone throught the worse economic meltdown since the depression..its not so much that Obama was a big spender, its that tax revenue was way way down
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?
The "budget" (quotes because there hasn't been one in years) is approaching 4 trillion dollars w/ yearly deficits close to 1~ trillion...Obama is a big spender. Tax revenues don't alter that fact, whether this govt. can spend 4 trillion because it takes in 4 trillion in revenue or not.
We are also years since the "Recovery" began and are still in the same place economically except there are 4 million more people out of work, the Labor Participation Rate has declined further, trillions upon trillion more in debt, negative GDP, real incomes continue to decline, cost of living has increased faster than wages, savings are being eaten up by ZIRP....there's more but I don't have all day. All that and more even with the 800 billion dollar stimulus that is, hilariously, now part of the yearly "budget."
Sweet jesus, man, what planet are you on?
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He is from the planet Team Obama
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He is from the planet Team Obama
I guess so, I mean, this isn't a R or L thing, it's a reality thing.
The only segment of the population that is doing well or better than they were 4 years ago are the Top 10%, they are doing better under Obama than under any President over the last 25~ years. Yet, Obama is for the "common man" and he will tax the evil rich and win the day! All the while more and more middle class families are having to rely on Food Stamps/Govt. Programs to just make ends meet.
And guess what, if you can't cut any spending or raise interest rates without the fear of sending the economy into a death spiral, well, you don't have a real/sustainable/organic economy.
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http://www.mediaite.com/tv/stewart-tears-into-state-of-the-union-slams-obama-whos-running-this-shthole-right-people
LMFAO
Even Stewart is mocking that hideous spectacle
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?
The "budget" (quotes because there hasn't been one in years) is approaching 4 trillion dollars w/ yearly deficits close to 1~ trillion...Obama is a big spender. Tax revenues don't alter that fact, whether this govt. can spend 4 trillion because it takes in 4 trillion in revenue or not.
We are also years since the "Recovery" began and are still in the same place economically except there are 4 million more people out of work, the Labor Participation Rate has declined further, trillions upon trillion more in debt, negative GDP, real incomes continue to decline, cost of living has increased faster than wages, savings are being eaten up by ZIRP....there's more but I don't have all day. All that and more even with the 800 billion dollar stimulus that is, hilariously, now part of the yearly "budget."
Sweet jesus, man, what planet are you on?
I guess on the planet of make believe...same as you apparently
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I guess on the planet of make believe...same as you apparently
Not even an attempt to rebut my post?
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Not even an attempt to rebut my post?
why bother?....everyone here is entrenched in their positions....what I will take the time to commne ton is that food stamps have been trending upwards sine the program was incepted....as our population grows, more people will be on food stamps...its going to grow exponentially no matter what....why is that Obama's fault?...come on..lets at least be fair....but when Obama is involved, all reasoning goes out the window to try and score points against him
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why bother?....everyone here is entrenched in their positions....what I will take the time to commne ton is that food stamps have been trending upwards sine the program was incepted....as our population grows, more people will be on food stamps...its going to grow exponentially no matter what....why is that Obama's fault?...come on..lets at least be fair....but when Obama is involved, all reasoning goes out the window to try and score points against him
I think you mean proportionately not exponentially, why would thee use grow exponentially with population growth?
They have grown exponentially under Obama and yes it is relevant
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Andre and Blacken won't bat an eye and will NEVER change position on anything..........why? Because that is what they are being paid to do by their employer. It is nigh' fucking IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to hold these kinds of positions in reality........just imagine their party conversations. It would sound exactly like a campaign ad. Reality and what these two and their ilk post all day on these boards(and probably others) are two completely different things.
What decrepit, rundown office building do you guys work out of? What is the pay like? Pay me and I'll spout pro-Obama stuff all day.
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why bother?....everyone here is entrenched in their positions....what I will take the time to commne ton is that food stamps have been trending upwards sine the program was incepted....as our population grows, more people will be on food stamps...its going to grow exponentially no matter what....why is that Obama's fault?...come on..lets at least be fair....but when Obama is involved, all reasoning goes out the window to try and score points against him
Gigantor is one of the best posters here and always uses facts. Give it a shot.
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why not?....didn't want to see Obama taking his victory lap? ;)
For what, running trillion dollar deficits?
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I think you mean proportionately not exponentially, why would thee use grow exponentially with population growth?
They have grown exponentially under Obama and yes it is relevant
thank you....I did use the word exponentially wrong.....good catch....but yes as the population grows the number of people on food stamps will grow....the number of people who depend on Government will grow...we just need to keep the percentage down relative to the population...but you can't blame Obama for something that will grow anyway...and with the amount of people who lost their job in the recession of course food stamp usage will be high.......and the sad part is you guys already know this but again you'd rather walk in lock-step and denigrate Obama
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Andre and Blacken won't bat an eye and will NEVER change position on anything..........why? Because that is what they are being paid to do by their employer. It is nigh' fucking IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to hold these kinds of positions in reality........just imagine their party conversations. It would sound exactly like a campaign ad. Reality and what these two and their ilk post all day on these boards(and probably others) are two completely different things.
What decrepit, rundown office building do you guys work out of? What is the pay like? Pay me and I'll spout pro-Obama stuff all day.
poster meet mirror ::)
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Gigantor is one of the best posters here and always uses facts. Give it a shot.
no doubt about it....he is a good poster.....but my facts are solid as well..you and the others on here again refuse to look at the stats and facts rationally
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For what, running trillion dollar deficits?
again..worse recession since the great depression......combined with Bush tax cuts and Bush prescription drug coverage, plus two wars again both started by Bush....and I don't say that to bash Bush at all....I was a very big supporter of him.......but it is what it is.....
but again no one here will admit that and you'll continue to bash me because you'd rather do that than give credit where credit is due which is fine
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no doubt about it....he is a good poster.....but my facts are solid as well..you and the others on here again refuse to look at the stats and facts rationally
You've had countless example of misrepresenting facts, and even having your own data proving your argument incorrect. But Ok.
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You've had countless example of misrepresenting facts, and even having your own data proving your argument incorrect. But Ok.
wrongo......Data can present whatever facts you choose it to represent....my prsentation was fine..you guys choose to start other arguments using the same data which is fine as well
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wrongo......Data can present whatever facts you choose it to represent....my prsentation was fine..you guys choose to start other arguments using the same data which is fine as well
A week later no one gives a shit about the state of the union address. Long forgotten.
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A week later no one gives a shit about the state of the union address. Long forgotten.
only in your feeble mind it is
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LIBERAL LOGIC:
Romney bringing up benghazi months after it happend = politicizing deaths
Obama using gun violence victims as props and using the sandy hook tragedy to push his agenda = "awesome [speech]"
LMFAO the hypocrisey is staggering....
bump!!!
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again..worse recession since the great depression......combined with Bush tax cuts and Bush prescription drug coverage, plus two wars again both started by Bush....and I don't say that to bash Bush at all....I was a very big supporter of him.......but it is what it is.....
but again no one here will admit that and you'll continue to bash me because you'd rather do that than give credit where credit is due which is fine
I'm at a loss to account for anything that Obama has done that is deserving of credit.
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What?? Take away the fact he has spent/led the country to the brink of financial disaster? That's a substantial part of his job performance. That's like saying aside from the economy and the war in Iraq, Dubya was an awesome president.
hey dumbass, the vast majority of all the spending was in place long before obama ever got in office.
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I'm at a loss to account for anything that Obama has done that is deserving of credit.
I could name 10 things right off the bat but you won't acknowledge any of them so why bother?
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hey dumbass, the vast majority of all the spending was in place long before obama ever got in office.
BB's memory only goes back 4 years it seems.
You would expect better from a moderator, but oh well...
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BB's memory only goes back 4 years it seems.
You would expect better from a moderator, but oh well...
agreed :)
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I could name 10 things right off the bat but you won't acknowledge any of them so why bother?
lol. I guess your list is a work in progress.
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lol. I guess your list is a work in progress.
no..I only do stuff like that for the people who are thoughtful
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no..I only do stuff like that for the people who are thoughtful
You bitching out once again? Color me surprised.
Why don't you fuck off out of here if you're going to make snide little assertions without backing them up?
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You bitching out once again? Color me surprised.
Why don't you fuck off out of here if you're going to make snide little assertions without backing them up?
still haven't gotten your GED yet I see ::)