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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/9908260/Barack-Obama-a-dithering-controlling-risk-averse-US-president.html
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The insider-account of the damaging divisions between the White House and the State Department comes as diplomats around the world wait to see if John Kerry, the new US secretary of state, can persuade Mr Obama to greater engagement on Syria, Egypt and the wider Middle East.
Vali Nasr, a university professor who was seconded in 2009 to work with Richard Holbrooke, Mr Obama's special envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan, records his profound disillusion at how a "Berlin Wall" of domestic-focused advisers was erected to protect Mr Obama.
"The president had a truly disturbing habit of funnelling major foreign policy decisions through a small cabal of relatively inexperienced White House advisers whose turf was strictly politics," Mr Nasr writes in The Dispensable Nation: America Foreign policy in Retreat.
The book sets out in detail how Mr Holbrooke, appointed with great fanfare in 2009, was systematically cut out of decision making as both he and Hillary Clinton, the former secretary of state, tried to argue the merits of engaging with the Taliban and the dangers caused by the overuse of drones.
(AFP)
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"The White House seemed to see an actual benefit in not doing too much," Prof Nasr writes, "The goal was to spare the president the risks that necessarily come with playing the leadership role that America claims to play in this region."
Admiral Mike Mullen, who was chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff until September 2011, is quoted lamenting how little support Mrs Clinton received from the White House, even though she remained on good personal terms with Mr Obama.
"They want to control everything," Admiral Mullen is quoted as saying of a White House that Prof Nasr says was "ravenous" in its desire to manage foreign policy, even by the to-be-expected standards of turf wars between diplomatic and national security teams.
As Mr Kerry prepares to return home from his first trip abroad in his new role, Western diplomats in Washington say they are watching carefully to see whether he will be able to put meat on the bones of his promise yesterday to "empower" Syrian rebels in their fight against the Assad regime.
John Kerry and Moaz Al Khatib in Rome on Friday (AFP)
Last week Mr Kerry pledged $60m in new support, including medical kits and food aid, which will go direct to rebel fighters for the first time, but still falls far short of British and French ambitions to provide more military materials such as flak jackets and night-vision goggles.
William Hague, the Foreign Secretary, is expected to announce a British aid package this week and has done little to hide his impatience on the issue.
Diplomatic sources in Washington say that Mr Kerry had been "left under no illusion" by his European allies of the desire for greater action, but that it was still very far from clear if the White House was serious about stepping up aid. Rebel groups remain openly sceptical.
Analysts looking for signs that Mr Obama might be prepared to be more engaged on foreign policy in his second term found little to suggest a change of heart in his Second Inaugural speech and last month's State of the Union address.
"American foreign policy has been on a four-year autopilot, which I argue has been excessively risk averse and domestically focused. I don't see any clear decision yet to change that," said Mr Nasr in an interview with The Daily Telegraph.
"I wrote this book to problematise the way Obama has approached this whole region, and that it is dangerous to disengage and confuse a low-level foreign policy with success in foreign policy," he concluded.
"My hope is that Kerry will be able to do more, but it is still early. He's definitely trying to create more US engagement, but there has to be a fundamental, strategic decision in the White House to reorientate our approach."
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Aren't you worried about the gestapo knocking on your door in the middle of the night? ???
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Aren't you worried about the gestapo knocking on your door in the middle of the night? ???
In NYS Cuomo commie regime is our utmost threat
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4 more years of Obama....yahhooooo!!!!!!
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4 more years of Obama....yahhooooo!!!!!!
yahhooo!!! for people like yourself who are benefiting tremendously (from Obama) at the cost of others. :-\
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yahhooo!!! for people like yourself who are benefiting tremendously (from Obama) at the cost of others. :-\
yes I am benefitting....he's keeping me safe from terrorists, making the rich pay their fair share so I don't have to put more than I'm supposed to into the treasury, giving me universal healthcare so I can live longer and healthier, etc...
YEP.... benefitting tremendously
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yahhooo!!! for people like yourself who are benefiting tremendously (from Obama) at the cost of others. :-\
Are they benefitting? It's the Obama voters, who are yelping about their checks being smaller. Their hours are being cut to avoid the ObamaCare fines. Some are flat-out being laid off.
Premiums have shot up by over $2000, with a projected 7 million to lose their insurance (so much for, "If you like your plan, you can keep it). Then, there's that whole "death panel" thing. BTW, which group of seniors do you think are going to get the thumbs-down, to save money? Can you say BLACK seniors?
And, the pain is only going to get worse. Obama would rather have Americans suffer indiscriminately than take responsibility for his own policies. He ran from control of the sequester cuts like a scalded dog.
Yet, Andre is yahoo-ing this crap.
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yes I am benefitting....he's keeping me safe from terrorists, making the rich pay their fair share so I don't have to put more than I'm supposed to into the treasury, giving me universal healthcare so I can live longer and healthier, etc...
YEP.... benefitting tremendously
LOL!!!! Spoken like a slave
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Are they benefitting? It's the Obama voters, who are yelping about their checks being smaller. Their hours are being cut to avoid the ObamaCare fines. Some are flat-out being laid off.
Premiums have shot up by over $2000, with a projected 7 million to lose their insurance (so much for, "If you like your plan, you can keep it). Then, there's that whole "death panel" thing. BTW, which group of seniors do you think are going to get the thumbs-down, to save money? Can you say BLACK seniors?
And, the pain is only going to get worse. Obama would rather have Americans suffer indiscriminately than take responsibility for his own policies. He ran from control of the sequester cuts like a scalded dog.
Yet, Andre is yahoo-ing this crap.
HA!..we sure are angry aren't we???....FOUR MORE YEARS>>>>>DEAL WITH IT!!!!
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HA!..we sure are angry aren't we???....FOUR MORE YEARS>>>>>DEAL WITH IT!!!!
As a 94r - you should be ashamed of yourself
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yes I am benefitting....he's keeping me safe from terrorists, making the rich pay their fair share so I don't have to put more than I'm supposed to into the treasury, giving me universal healthcare so I can live longer and healthier, etc...
YEP.... benefitting tremendously
GIVE ME A BREAK!! Safe from terrorists? You mean like the underwear and Times Square bombers, who only got caught, because they couldn't detonate the bombs?
Fair share? You really are one of those "low-information voters". YOU are going to get hit harder than those EEEEEVVVVIIIILLL rich people. Either they will find a way to avoid those tax hikes or they will pass them on to YOU, via higher costs for goods and services.
Universal healthcare? Good luck with that. You may be one of those 7 million, slated to LOSE their coverage. Then, you'll still be fined for not having coverage. And woe unto you, if the government is your only option. If their care sucks or is too expensive, you got NOWHERE ELSE to go (which is precisely what Obama and the libs want).
And, as usual, you mistake pointing out the obvious Obama disasters with anger.
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As a 94r - you should be ashamed of yourself
as a 53er, you're a loser
FOUR MORE YEARS>>>>>DEAL WITH IT!!!!
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HA!..we sure are angry aren't we???....FOUR MORE YEARS>>>>>DEAL WITH IT!!!!
Your check just got siphoned....DEAL WITH IT!!!
Your hours may be cut at work....DEAL WITH IT!!!
You may not have a job, if your employer can't afford to pay for your benefits....DEAL WITH IT!!!
Gas is still well over $3 a gallon......DEAL WITH IT!!!
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as a 53er, you're a loser
FOUR MORE YEARS>>>>>DEAL WITH IT!!!!
The country is worse off due to your emotional vote
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Your check just got siphoned....DEAL WITH IT!!!
Your hours may be cut at work....DEAL WITH IT!!!
You may not have a job, if your employer can't afford to pay for your benefits....DEAL WITH IT!!!
Gas is still well over $3 a gallon......DEAL WITH IT!!!
don't get hysterical.....just relax and let Obama run things for you so that your life will become better...
FOUR MORE YEARS>>>>>DEAL WITH IT!!!
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The country is worse off due to your emotional vote
you honestly believe that Romney would have made thinss better by giving MORE tax cuts to the rich???..that was his only plan
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don't get hysterical.....just relax and let Obama run things for you so that your life will become better...
FOUR MORE YEARS>>>>>DEAL WITH IT!!!
That's what you Obama sheep said four years ago. Look what happened.
Obama doesn't have the balls to run things. That's why he ran away from this sequester thing. Instead of controlling the cuts, he want to run and hide and let the maximum pain hit, just as long as he can blame somebody else.
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Good posts MCWAY, great breakdown!
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That's what you Obama sheep said four years ago. Look what happened.
Obama doesn't have the balls to run things. That's why he ran away from this sequester thing. Instead of controlling the cuts, he want to run and hide and let the maximum pain hit, just as long as he can blame somebody else.
its not his fault the republicans don't want to negotiate......anyway I want the sequester to happen.....I'm tired of Gov't making promises it doesn't keep
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its not his fault the republicans don't want to negotiate......anyway I want the sequester to happen.....I'm tired of Gov't making promises it doesn't keep
That's funny! Obama didn't. Until Friday, you'd thought the Four Horsemen of the apocalypse were going to hit America (and I don't mean Flair, Blanchard, and the Andersons).
You're tired of government not keeping promises; yet you voted for Obama again? Who's drinking too much bad Cell-Tech NOW? ;D
Just to recap, Obama did not:
- Keep unemployment under 8%
- Close Gitmo
- Reform immigration, in his first year
- Cut the deficit in half
- Ensure people could keep their healthcare plan under ObamaCare
- Lower premiums costs, under ObamaCare
- Create all those 'shovel-ready jobs"
- Produce 500,000 jobs per month, during the "Summer of Recovery" in 2010.
I can keep going, but Christmas is in 9 months and change.
Nothing is Obama's fault. Poor little president, can't get anything done because of those mean ol' Weepubwicans. ::)
Reagan accomplished much, despite not having control of either House of Congress.
Clinton did much, despite only having Congress under his rule for 2 years.
What's Obama's excuse?
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giving me universal healthcare so I can live longer and healthier, etc...
Obama isn't giving you Universal Healthcare, productive, hardworking tax payers are. Not only are they paying for their family, they're paying for your family too.
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That's what you Obama sheep said four years ago. Look what happened.
Obama doesn't have the balls to run things. That's why he ran away from this sequester thing. Instead of controlling the cuts, he want to run and hide and let the maximum pain hit, just as long as he can blame somebody else.
That was the plan all along. Congress has become predictable. If he didn't want it, he would have vetoed it.
Meanwhile, they've got the American people yelling & screaming at each other, instead of pointing the fingers of blame at their so-called representatives who refused to work together in order to avert this. What good will yelling & screaming at Obama do? ...do you think it will hurt his chances of being elected to another term as potus? ...but blaming him could divert enough eyeballs in order to save a congressional seat, and keep people from scrutinizing various powerful lobbies.
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you honestly believe that Romney would have made thinss better by giving MORE tax cuts to the rich???..that was his only plan
I sure do. BTW, if libs are so bent on the rich paying their so-called "fair share", kindly explain Al Gore's attempt to unload his flailing cable network to Al Jazeera BEFORE Obama's tax hikes hit (after stating on camera that he and other rich folks should pay higher taxes).
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I sure do. BTW, if libs are so bent on the rich paying their so-called "fair share", kindly explain Al Gore's attempt to unload his flailing cable network to Al Jazeera BEFORE Obama's tax hikes hit (after stating on camera that he and other rich folks should pay higher taxes).
There's a big difference between being A representative of something, and being representative of something
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There's a big difference between being A representative of something, and being representative of something
Gore is hardly the first "limousine liberal", as they're known.
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GIVE ME A BREAK!! Safe from terrorists? You mean like the underwear and Times Square bombers, who only got caught, because they couldn't detonate the bombs?
Fair share? You really are one of those "low-information voters". YOU are going to get hit harder than those EEEEEVVVVIIIILLL rich people. Either they will find a way to avoid those tax hikes or they will pass them on to YOU, via higher costs for goods and services.
Universal healthcare? Good luck with that. You may be one of those 7 million, slated to LOSE their coverage. Then, you'll still be fined for not having coverage. And woe unto you, if the government is your only option. If their care sucks or is too expensive, you got NOWHERE ELSE to go (which is precisely what Obama and the libs want).
And, as usual, you mistake pointing out the obvious Obama disasters with anger.
and I guess you blame Obama for this am I correct???....loonies wake up and attempt dumb things all the time....and yes luck plays a big part in us being free from terror....
as for anger..have you actually read your one-sided posts???????????????????????????????????????
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and I guess you blame Obama for this am I correct???
I blame Obama for playing on the emotions of poor souls like yourself and getting you to abandon God and seek him as you new savior
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Your check just got siphoned....DEAL WITH IT!!!
Your hours may be cut at work....DEAL WITH IT!!!
You may not have a job, if your employer can't afford to pay for your benefits....DEAL WITH IT!!!
Gas is still well over $3 a gallon......DEAL WITH IT!!!
oh my God you're so wrong and annoying its amazing you can look in the mirror....
the 2% FICA break we got on our wages was SUPPOSED to be temporary...the % went back to 6% instead of the 4% we were getting temporarily.....for almost two years we got MORE in our paychecks....so what that the rate went back down and our checks got smaller????????..this was supposed to happen
you are now officially the looniest person on this board, surpassing even the greatest mental patient of all time, 3333.
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oh my God you're so wrong and annoying its amazing you can look in the mirror....
the 2% FICA break we got on our wages was SUPPOSED to be temporary...the % went back to 6% instead of the 4% we were getting temporarily.....for almost two years we got MORE in our paychecks....so what that the rate went back down and our checks got smaller????????..this was supposed to happen
you are now officially the looniest person on this board, surpassing even the greatest mental patient of all time, 3333.
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Good posts MCWAY, great breakdown!
oh look everyone........McWay's fag cheerleader is here ::)
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Obama isn't giving you Universal Healthcare, productive, hardworking tax payers are. Not only are they paying for their family, they're paying for your family too.
thats a good thing.....sorry you can't see that.......for all these years since the invention of hosptals who do you think has been paying for all those people in the emergency rooms who don't have Healthcare????...who do you think pays for all those people across the U.S. who are in comas, hooked up to machines, living in hospitals because they have no where to go, etc....taxpayers........ taxpayers HAVE ALWAYS paid the healthcare of those who can't pay....YOU ACT AS IF THIS STARTED WHEN OBAMA BECAME PRESIDENT
IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES AND DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THEN STAY OUT OF THE CONVERSATION, READ, AND LEARN!!!!!!!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crispus_Attucks
Why not celebrate a real black historical figure we should learn about on this March 5, 2013 instead of O-TWINK ?
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I blame Obama for playing on the emotions of poor souls like yourself and getting you to abandon God and seek him as you new savior
abandon God?????????????????????????????????
savior????????????????????????????????????????
cue the "Twilight Zone" theme
increase the dosage
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oh my God you're so wrong and annoying its amazing you can look in the mirror....
the 2% FICA break we got on our wages was SUPPOSED to be temporary...the % went back to 6% instead of the 4% we were getting temporarily.....for almost two years we got MORE in our paychecks....so what that the rate went back down and our checks got smaller????????..this was supposed to happen
Tell that to your fellow Obama sheep. THEY are the ones bleating about it.
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abandon God?????????????????????????????????
savior????????????????????????????????????????
cue the "Twilight Zone" theme
increase the dosage
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Tell that to your fellow Obama sheep. THEY are the ones bleating about it.
I guess this is the closest thing you will ever post admitting you were wrong about something
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That's funny! Obama didn't. Until Friday, you'd thought the Four Horsemen of the apocalypse were going to hit America (and I don't mean Flair, Blanchard, and the Andersons).
You're tired of government not keeping promises; yet you voted for Obama again? Who's drinking too much bad Cell-Tech NOW? ;D
Just to recap, Obama did not:
- Keep unemployment under 8%
- Close Gitmo
- Reform immigration, in his first year
- Cut the deficit in half
- Ensure people could keep their healthcare plan under ObamaCare
- Lower premiums costs, under ObamaCare
- Create all those 'shovel-ready jobs"
- Produce 500,000 jobs per month, during the "Summer of Recovery" in 2010.
I can keep going, but Christmas is in 9 months and change.
Nothing is Obama's fault. Poor little president, can't get anything done because of those mean ol' Weepubwicans. ::)
Reagan accomplished much, despite not having control of either House of Congress.
Clinton did much, despite only having Congress under his rule for 2 years.
What's Obama's excuse?
Holy Shit
if the public finds out about this Obama's odds of winning a third term will go down to about 91%
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/9908260/Barack-Obama-a-dithering-controlling-risk-averse-US-president.html
FAIL
Don't you think Obama is a ruthless thug and communist dictator
make up your mind (or is that even possible for someone with your mental issues?)
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Don't you think Obama is a ruthless thug and communist dictator
make up your mind (or is that even possible for someone with your mental issues?)
The only good thing about obama is that he is a lazy layabout chooming basehead w communist goals. Were he not so lazy we would be even worse off.
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The only good thing about obama is that he is a lazy layabout chooming basehead w communist goals. Were he not so lazy we would be even worse off.
I wish I could think of one good thing about you
I guess maybe somewhere it's considered a good thing to be a severely mentally impaired, obsessive compulsive pathological liar
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I guess this is the closest thing you will ever post admitting you were wrong about something
Wrong about what? It's the folks like you, yahoo-ing about Obama's re-election, who were wailing about their checks being short.
Heck, even the (in)famous Obamaphone lady was yelping about this mess. I posted a thread weeks ago, about that one.
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Wrong about what? It's the folks like you, yahoo-ing about Obama's re-election, who were wailing about their checks being short.
Heck, even the (in)famous Obamaphone lady was yelping about this mess. I posted a thread weeks ago, about that one.
only a tiny handful of morons who were too stupid to understand that a temporary discount had expired were "wailing" about their checks being short
most people of even average intelligence understood what a temporary discount means
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What is Obama doing today to fix the mess he created?
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only a tiny handful of morons who were too stupid to understand that a temporary discount had expired were "wailing" about their checks being short
most people of even average intelligence understood what a temporary discount means
PLEASE!!! You're going to sit here and claim that most Obama voters knew their checks would get reduced but were just fine with it?
“I know to expect between $93 and $94 less in my paycheck on the 15th.”
DemocratToTheEnd was upset over her boyfriend’s shrinking paycheck:
“My boyfriend has had a lot of expenses and is feeling squeezed right now, and having his paycheck shrink really didn’t help.”
BlueIndyBlue added his or her thoughts to the discussion:
“Many of my friends didn’t realize it, either. Our payroll department didn’t do a good job of explaining the coming changes.”
Twitter was also loaded with comments. Meet Virginia was rather calm while asking for some more Obama Bucks:
“Really, how am I ever supposed to pay off my student loans if my already small paycheck keeps getting smaller? Help a sister out, Obama.”
Nancy Thongkham was not as polite, tweeting an obscenity loaded message about more taxes:
“F***ing Obama! F*** you! This taking out more taxes s*** better f***ing help me out!! Very upset to see my paycheck less today!”
Alex tweeted the blame where he thought it belonged:
“Obama I did not vote for you so you can take away a lot of money from my checks.”
Christian Dixon was beginning to question her choice for President:
“I’m starting to regret voting for Obama.”
Dave let Twitter users know exactly who he though was to blame for the rising taxes:
“Obama is the biggest f***ing liar in the world. Why the f*** did I vote for him?”
Honeycombe8 broke the tax increase down in terms anyone can understand; item by item:
“$86 a month is a lot. That would pay for … Groceries for a week, as someone said. More than what I pay for parking every month, after my employer’s contribution to that. A new computer after a year. A new quality pair of shoes … every month. Months of my copay for my hormones. A new thick coat (on sale or at discount place). It would pay for what I spend on my dogs every month … food, vitamins, treats.”
Although Romney supporters are probably delighted to be reading all the complaints by the folks who voted for Obama, it is important to remember that there are many other elected officials in both parties who share the blame for America’s fiscal mess. How many more financial experts will have to tell Washington to stop the spending? How many more times will the nation’s credit rating be downgraded after every major bank and financial institution on the planet says America must reduce the deficit?
Our leaders, for reasons that run from the simply unbelievable to the truly insane, just don’t get it. They are almost universally unwilling to cut one red cent from the budget (if we even had an official Federal budget in the first place) and they keep kicking the can down the road. Taxes continue to go up, the nation continues to borrow trillions and the Federal Reserve (the wonderful private bank that controls the nation’s currency) continues to print greenbacks like they are going out of style.
The answer is so simple that a 5th grader could solve the problem. STOP THE SPENDING AND REDUCE THE DEFICIT!
http://www.inquisitr.com/472438/obama-supporters-furious-over-tax-increases-and-they-are-happy-to-tell-the-world/
The first paycheck of 2013 contained a nasty surprise for many workers: a tax hike that shrank their take-home earnings by 2 percent or more.
While the "fiscal cliff" compromise spared most Americans an increase in their income taxes, Congress allowed a temporary cut in payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare to expire. The tax increase comes at a time when worker paychecks are already under pressure from rising health care premiums and ongoing furloughs in the public sector. For many, it is big enough to offset any recent pay raise.
Matt Anhaiser, a Lexus of Roseville employee, said he and his wife, a nurse, are losing a combined $283 a month.
"That is my truck payment, or all of the extracurricular activities for my children, or a week and a half of groceries," said Anhaiser, 36. "That is significant to me. ... I don't know where it's going to come from at this point."
http://www.sacbee.com/2013/01/14/5112347/many-workers-surprised-by-hike.html
Guess what, guys? You're all stupid, per Straw Man's words.
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The rethuglicans lied - the women poor minorities and pets died.
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PLEASE!!! You're going to sit here and claim that most Obama voters knew their checks would get reduced but were just fine with it?
http://www.inquisitr.com/472438/obama-supporters-furious-over-tax-increases-and-they-are-happy-to-tell-the-world/
The first paycheck of 2013 contained a nasty surprise for many workers: a tax hike that shrank their take-home earnings by 2 percent or more.
While the "fiscal cliff" compromise spared most Americans an increase in their income taxes, Congress allowed a temporary cut in payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare to expire. The tax increase comes at a time when worker paychecks are already under pressure from rising health care premiums and ongoing furloughs in the public sector. For many, it is big enough to offset any recent pay raise.
Matt Anhaiser, a Lexus of Roseville employee, said he and his wife, a nurse, are losing a combined $283 a month.
"That is my truck payment, or all of the extracurricular activities for my children, or a week and a half of groceries," said Anhaiser, 36. "That is significant to me. ... I don't know where it's going to come from at this point."
http://www.sacbee.com/2013/01/14/5112347/many-workers-surprised-by-hike.html
Guess what, guys? You're all stupid, per Straw Man's words.
that's EXACTLY what I'm telling you
of course you'll post some link about a HANDFUL of morons and try to pretend that it somehow represents a majority of Obama voters but I think we've already taken this retarded merry-go-round ride
most people of even average intelligence understood it so I guess if you and a handful of other dopes didn't understand it there is not much anyone can do about it
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that's EXACTLY what I'm telling you
of course you'll post some link about a HANDFUL of morons and try to pretend that it somehow represents a majority of Obama voters but I think we've already taken this retarded merry-go-round ride
most people of even average intelligence understood it so I guess if you and a handful of other dopes didn't understand it there is not much anyone can do about it
These are hardly a handful, because it affect MILLIONS across this country.
The morons and dopes would be YOU and your fellow Obama sheep, because you either foolishly attempt to absolve Obama from being responsible for this; or, in your case, you mindlessly pretend that people are happy with smaller paychecks (after being promised FOR MONTHS that only the EEEVVVVVIIIIILLLL rich people would get soaked).
I'm sure all those people, who were cheering and singing, "Signed, Sealed, Delivered, I'M YOURS!!" November 6 were just eagerly anticipating their having less money in their pockets two months later.
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Why didn't othug fight for that to be extended.
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These are hardly a handful, because it affect MILLIONS across this country.
The morons and dopes would be YOU and your fellow Obama sheep, because you either foolishly attempt to absolve Obama from being responsible for this; or, in your case, you mindlessly pretend that people are happy with smaller paychecks (after being promised FOR MONTHS that only the EEEVVVVVIIIIILLLL rich people would get soaked).
great logic
a handful of morons complain due to their own ignorance and you apply their stupidity to everyone and assume that everyone is just as stupid as you and a handful of other morons
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Why didn't othug fight for that to be extended.
For the same reason he pushed the garbage for ObamaCare to hit in 2014 and beyond: Now, that he's politically safe, he can sodomized the American people out of their money. He doesn't have to pretend to be a moderate or a centrist, anymore.
And, the sheep, who fell for it, are bleating more by the day.
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Why didn't othug fight for that to be extended.
it was extended once you moron
maybe you recall that the Repubs were against it the first time and against extending it again
shit, why am I even wasting my time trying to explain simple fucking facts to an idiot
you and McWAy can proceed with your circle jerk
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great logic
a handful of morons complain due to their own ignorance and you apply their stupidity to everyone and assume that everyone is just as stupid as you and a handful of other morons
Nice attempt to cover your own buffoonery.
You are actually STUPID enough to think that they saw this coming and are happy with it, and that there's just a handful of people being hit by it.
I KNEW this was coming. That's why, unlike you, I didn't vote for this fraud, known as Obama.
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it was extended once you moron
maybe you recall that the Repubs were against it the first time and against extending it again
shit, why am I even wasting my time trying to explain simple fucking facts to an idiot
you and McWAy can proceed with your circle jerk
The only thing you're doing is verifying just how clueless many Obama voters are.
Your cueing up excuse after excuse for Obama's policy failures gets more comical by the second.
The Obama sheep are bleating about what 333386 and I saw coming, months (if not years) in advance.
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Nice attempt to cover your own buffoonery.
You are actually STUPID enough to think that they saw this coming and are happy with it, and that there's just a handful of people being hit by it.
I KNEW this was coming. That's why, unlike you, I didn't vote for this fraud, known as Obama.
I don't have to "think" they saw it coming
Anyone with normal intelligence knew it was temporary simply based on the fact that it was always presented that way so people such as yourself who didn't understand that have only yourselves to blame for your ignorance
If you want to pretend that the majority of Obama voters are as dumb as you then feel free
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I don't have to "think" they saw it coming
Anyone with normal intelligence knew it was temporary simply based on the fact that it was always presented that way so people such as yourself who didn't understand that have only yourselves to blame for your ignorance
If you want to pretend that the majority of Obama voters are as dumb as you then feel free
Obamaphone lady got played.
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The only thing you're doing is verifying just how clueless many Obama voters are.
Your cueing up excuse after excuse for Obama's policy failures gets more comical by the second.
The Obama sheep are bleating about what 333386 and I saw coming, months (if not years) in advance.
all I'm doing is verifying how stupid you are
keep digging that hole moron
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I don't have to "think" they saw it coming
Anyone with normal intelligence knew it was temporary simply based on the fact that it was always presented that way so people such as yourself who didn't understand that have only yourselves to blame for your ignorance
If you want to pretend that the majority of Obama voters are as dumb as you then feel free
If someone gave you a penny for your thoughts, he'd have change coming.
What part of "I KNEW THIS WAS COMING" did you not understand, Einstein?
333386 and I are laughing at Obama sheep like YOU, because the disasters that we knew would occur in a second Obama term, and tried to avoid by our vote for Romney (or against Obama) have hit hardest THE VERY BLEATING SHEEP who were cheering Obama's re-election, just a few months ago.
And, we're not even three months into his second term.
It ain't those EEEEEEVVVVIIIILLLL rich folk getting slammed. It's the "Yes-We-Can", "OBAMA!!" chanters.
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What is Obama doing today to fix theeconomy.
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Obamaphone lady got played.
BIG TIME!! She even admitted as such.
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What is Obama doing today to fix theeconomy.
You mean, other than deliberately trying to make the sequester as painful as possible?
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If someone gave you a penny for your thoughts, he'd have change coming.
What part of "I KNEW THIS WAS COMING" did you not understand, Einstein?
333386 and I are laughing at Obama sheep like YOU, because the disasters that we knew would occur in a second Obama term, and tried to avoid by our vote for Romney (or against Obama) have hit hardest THE VERY BLEATING SHEEP who were cheering Obama's re-election, just a few months ago.
And, we're not even three months into his second term.
It ain't those EEEEEEVVVVIIIILLLL rich folk getting slammed. It's the "Yes-We-Can", "OBAMA!!" chanters.
of course, if a handful of morons such as YOU, the "Obamaphone" lady and 333 were confused then it must be everyone
great logic
Dig Up Stupid
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of course, if a handful of morons such as YOU, the "Obamaphone" lady and 333 were confused then it must be everyone
great logic
Dig Up Stupid
I wasn't confused, O goofy one.
Try again!! Even in this Obama economy, clues are cheap. Buy one.
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I wasn't confused, O goofy one.
Try again!! Even in this Obama economy, clues are cheap. Buy one.
Classic
you weren't confused yet if a handful of dopes were confused it must mean that EVERYONE (except you of course) was confused
I mean how could anyone think something called the "Temporary Payroll Tax Cut Continuation Act of 2011"....was temporary
Obama is a cunning bastard but he didn't fool you yet you believe he fooled everyone else
LOL
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Classic
you weren't confused yet if a handful of dopes were confused it must mean that EVERYONE (except you of course) was confused
I mean how could anyone think something called the "Temporary Payroll Tax Cut Continuation Act of 2011"....was temporary
Obama is a cunning bastard but he didn't fool you yet you believe he fooled everyone else
LOL
Who are the ones doing the yelping? OBAMA VOTERS!
I didn't vote for Obama, genius!! So, the dopes are your fellow Obama sheep.
Again, get some of those clues, before stock runs out.
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Wrong about what? It's the folks like you, yahoo-ing about Obama's re-election, who were wailing about their checks being short.
Heck, even the (in)famous Obamaphone lady was yelping about this mess. I posted a thread weeks ago, about that one.
you see, this is why you lose credsibility....you take off on a tangent instead of admitting that the FICA tax cut we got was supposed to be temporary....instead of how you put it.... that taxes went up
SHEESH....again the hypocrisy
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The only thing you're doing is verifying just how clueless many Obama voters are.
Your cueing up excuse after excuse for Obama's policy failures gets more comical by the second.
The Obama sheep are bleating about what 333386 and I saw coming, months (if not years) in advance.
ha.. you don't realize by now that when you insert your name in the same sentence as 3333 you've just destroyed yourself
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you see, this is why you lose credsibility....you take off on a tangent instead of admitting that the FICA tax cut we got was supposed to be temporary....instead of how you put it.... that taxes went up
SHEESH....again the hypocrisy
Lose credibility in whose eyes, YOURS, those of Straw?
Sob, sniff!! ::)
How about you tell your fellow Obama sheep that. THEY are the ones, complaining about the tax hike. Did Team Obama bother to inform them about this "temporary" tax cut? Or did they give the impression that the only ones that would get hit in the wallet were those EEEEEVVVVIIILLLLL rich people?
Don't even go there with hypocrisy. You just wailed that you hated when government breaks promises. Obama broke promises LEFT AND RIGHT (I cited but a small example of such). Yet, you were daft enough to vote for him again, as were a lot of Obama sheep.
Those same sheep are now bleating about getting their checks shanked.
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ha.. you don't realize by now that when you insert your name in the same sentence as 3333 you've just destroyed yourself
You don't realize by now, that when I have a point to make, I will make it whether you like it or not. And, if someone makes a similar point with which I agree, I will reference that point and that person, as I see fit.
I don't need to get your permission or approval or that of any other poster on this or any other forum.
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Lose credibility in whose eyes, YOURS, those of Straw?
Sob, sniff!! ::)
How about you tell your fellow Obama sheep that. THEY are the ones, complaining about the tax hike. Did Team Obama bother to inform them about this "temporary" tax cut? Or did they give the impression that the only ones that would get hit in the wallet were those EEEEEVVVVIIILLLLL rich people?
Don't even go there with hypocrisy. You just wailed that you hated when government breaks promises. Obama broke promises LEFT AND RIGHT (I cited but a small example of such). Yet, you were daft enough to vote for him again, as were a lot of Obama sheep.
Those same sheep are now bleating about getting their checks shanked.
Everyone that follows politics KNEW that they were temporary...of coure you have a lot of people out there who do not and therefore they may have been somewhat surprised....but as for the widespread bellyaching that you talk about ...I haven't seen that.....most people KNEW it would happen eventually....
How about just once admiting that you were wrong about SOMETHING...instead of using tortured logic to make stupid grandstanding points with no substance.....
Quoting the Obamalady is a serious new low for you...thats like me quoting the Obamagirl on you tube ::) ??? :-\
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You don't realize by now, that when I have a point to make, I will make it whether you like it or not. And, if someone makes a similar point with which I agree, I will reference that point and that person, as I see fit.
I don't need to get your permission or approval or that of any other poster on this or any other forum.
make your point..I welcome your input...all I'm saying is that there has been a serious erosion lately in the quality of your postings....they are heading toward 3333-land with torured logic and inane banter...Obama's victory has really unhinged you.
GET HELP MAN!!!
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Everyone that follows politics KNEW that they were temporary...of coure you have a lot of people out there who do not and therefore they may have been somewhat surprised....but as for the widespread bellyaching that you talk about ...I haven't seen that.....most people KNEW it would happen eventually....
How about just once admiting that you were wrong about SOMETHING...instead using tortured logic to make stupid grandstanding points with no substance.....
Quoting the Obamalady is a serious new low for you...thats like me quoting the Obamagirl on you tube ::) ??? :-\
All taxes are temporary - o up and down. Oh-SHIT decided to raise taxes on working people and save hedge fund owners.
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make your point..I welcome your input...all I'm saying is that there has been a serious erosion lately in the quality of your postings....they are heading toward 3333-land with torured logic and inane banter...Obama's victory has really unhinged you.
GET HELP MAN!!!
No it's that Obama slaves are willing to g to further lengths than ever to defend his high treason.
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All taxes are temporary - o up and down. Oh-SHIT decided to raise taxes on working people and save hedge fund owners.
your postings on Obama have no merit and no facts.....you're like those crazy guys who stand in Times Square with a megaphone and talk about how the world is ending......no one listens anymore
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No it's that Obama slaves are willing to g to further lengths than ever to defend his high treason.
see post above :D
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your postings on Obama have no merit and no facts.....you're like those crazy guys who stand in Times Square with a megaphone and talk about how the world is ending......no one listens anymore
LOl coming from the OBsma slave plantation.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-engelhardt/an-exceptional-decline-fo_b_5583939.html
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