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I hope to God the Supreme Court strikes the racist and ass backward affirmative action disease which does nothing except put stupid people in positions they can't handle while unquestionably contributing to the dumbing down of America's stature in the world.
With that in mind, another brilliant left wing program: Overcoming White Privilege. I think i'll speak in Ebonics and start break dancing at work today ::)
Wisconsin’s VISTA Program Encourages Volunteers to Overcome White 'Privilege’
March 13, 2013
By Patrick Burke
(CNSNews.com) - The Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction (DPI) wants its white VISTA volunteers who work with low-income, racially diverse public schools to examine the “privilege” their Caucasian race confers on them.
DPI devotes an entire Web page to “Power and Privilege,” including links to racial justice workshops and online tests where VISTA volunteers can “learn about your personal bias.”
One “diversity” document linked to DPI’s Web site suggests that white people “wear a white wristband as a reminder about your privilege, and as a personal commitment to explain why you wear the wristband.”
The document -- written by a diversity resource center in New Jersey -- also suggests that white people ask themselves questions, such as: “How do I ignore privilege? What am I doing today to undo my privilege? How do I fool myself into thinking I am powerless?”
Other suggestions for white people include:
-- Set aside sections of the day to critically examine how privilege is working.
-- Put a note on your mirror or computer screen as a reminder to think about privilege.
-- Make a daily list of the ways privilege played out, and steps taken or not taken to address privilege.
-- Find a person of color who is willing to hold you accountable for addressing privilege.
The Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction is the state agency that advances public education and libraries in Wisconsin.
DPI notes that its AmeriCorps VISTA volunteers are serving in schools that are culturally and racially diverse, and therefore DPI provide “multiple opportunities for training…that help the volunteers better serve the schools and communities in which they are placed.”
(The document mentioned above is just “one strand of information” provided for Wisconsin VISTA volunteers.)
“Not only should you examine the kind of privilege you bring to your (work) site but also how power is distributed among the families, community members, and students you work with,” the DPI Web site says. “The VISTA project encourages VISTAs to think about power and privilege in the context of race, gender, socio-economic status, to name only a few.”
At the top of the DPI’s “Power and Privilege” Web page is a quotation from feminist Gloria Steinem that reads: “The first problem for all of us, men and women, is not to learn, but to unlearn.”
AmeriCorps VISTA (Volunteers in Service to America) is the national service program designed specifically to fight poverty.
VISTA members commit to serve full-time for a year at a nonprofit organization or local government agency, working to fight illiteracy, improve health services, create businesses, and strengthen community groups.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/wisconsin-s-vista-program-encourages-volunteers-overcome-white-privilege
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Anti-White discrimination is the new norm, and treasonous groups complicit with it are able to get away with it without fear of repercussion or lawsuits. There are no advocates for us, as the demographics are rapidly shifting against us, bringing loss of political and cultural power. What we are being replaced with is not anything of a superior nature, but one of great inferiority.......brough t on by the self-loathing garbage depicted in the article.
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Speechless
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Anti-White discrimination is the new norm, and treasonous groups complicit with it are able to get away with it without fear of repercussion or lawsuits. There are no advocates for us, as the demographics are rapidly shifting against us, bringing loss of political and cultural power. What we are being replaced with is not anything of a superior nature, but one of great inferiority.......brough t on by the self-loathing garbage depicted in the article.
Yeah, but evidently everybody is cool with it, because there's no revolution going on to counteract it.
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Yeah, but evidently everybody is cool with it, because there's no revolution going on to counteract it.
Well that would be racist.
Non whites (excluding Asians) are stupid and unqualified because I'm white.
The Asians have managed to somehow overcome my whiteness so they don't count.
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Lol where are all the civil rights leaders now?
Where are all their supporters?
Andre, Vince, Benny????
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I hope to God the Supreme Court strikes the racist and ass backward affirmative action disease which does nothing except put stupid people in positions they can't handle while unquestionably contributing to the dumbing down of America's stature in the world.
With that in mind, another brilliant left wing program: Overcoming White Privilege. I think i'll speak in Ebonics and start break dancing at work today ::)
Wisconsin’s VISTA Program Encourages Volunteers to Overcome White 'Privilege’
March 13, 2013
By Patrick Burke
(CNSNews.com) - The Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction (DPI) wants its white VISTA volunteers who work with low-income, racially diverse public schools to examine the “privilege” their Caucasian race confers on them.
DPI devotes an entire Web page to “Power and Privilege,” including links to racial justice workshops and online tests where VISTA volunteers can “learn about your personal bias.”
One “diversity” document linked to DPI’s Web site suggests that white people “wear a white wristband as a reminder about your privilege, and as a personal commitment to explain why you wear the wristband.”
The document -- written by a diversity resource center in New Jersey -- also suggests that white people ask themselves questions, such as: “How do I ignore privilege? What am I doing today to undo my privilege? How do I fool myself into thinking I am powerless?”
Other suggestions for white people include:
-- Set aside sections of the day to critically examine how privilege is working.
-- Put a note on your mirror or computer screen as a reminder to think about privilege.
-- Make a daily list of the ways privilege played out, and steps taken or not taken to address privilege.
-- Find a person of color who is willing to hold you accountable for addressing privilege.
The Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction is the state agency that advances public education and libraries in Wisconsin.
DPI notes that its AmeriCorps VISTA volunteers are serving in schools that are culturally and racially diverse, and therefore DPI provide “multiple opportunities for training…that help the volunteers better serve the schools and communities in which they are placed.”
(The document mentioned above is just “one strand of information” provided for Wisconsin VISTA volunteers.)
“Not only should you examine the kind of privilege you bring to your (work) site but also how power is distributed among the families, community members, and students you work with,” the DPI Web site says. “The VISTA project encourages VISTAs to think about power and privilege in the context of race, gender, socio-economic status, to name only a few.”
At the top of the DPI’s “Power and Privilege” Web page is a quotation from feminist Gloria Steinem that reads: “The first problem for all of us, men and women, is not to learn, but to unlearn.”
AmeriCorps VISTA (Volunteers in Service to America) is the national service program designed specifically to fight poverty.
VISTA members commit to serve full-time for a year at a nonprofit organization or local government agency, working to fight illiteracy, improve health services, create businesses, and strengthen community groups.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/wisconsin-s-vista-program-encourages-volunteers-overcome-white-privilege
WTF ???
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My coworkers and I haven't pulled drive bys on each other today. Nor have we broken out in kung fu fights with the management because our bowl of rice was 5 minutes late.
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silly indeed but if its not a privilage why do so many people act like they are having their privilages taken away?
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Sadly white privilege doesn't exist in my experience. It should
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but if its not a privilage why do so many people act like they are having their privilages taken away?
Interesting isn't it?
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White people created modern western society. Naturally, in the past, power (that they created) was passed on to people in their circle.
Why was that a bad thing, or a wrong?
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I just bought a makeup kit to help mask my whiteness. I'll go down to the local barbershop later today and attempt to apologize for...something.
Nevermind that despite being arbitrarily included into the 'white' gerrymander, most of my people came to this country in a post-slavery context and were treated just as poorly as blacks.
Thanks Wisconsin (or rather, a small class of self-hating persons within Wisconsin).
I'm going to guess that you are of Irish decent?
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I hope to God the Supreme Court strikes the racist and ass backward affirmative action disease which does nothing except put stupid people in positions they can't handle while unquestionably contributing to the dumbing down of America's stature in the world.
With that in mind, another brilliant left wing program: Overcoming White Privilege. I think i'll speak in Ebonics and start break dancing at work today ::)
Wisconsin’s VISTA Program Encourages Volunteers to Overcome White 'Privilege’
March 13, 2013
By Patrick Burke
(CNSNews.com) - The Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction (DPI) wants its white VISTA volunteers who work with low-income, racially diverse public schools to examine the “privilege” their Caucasian race confers on them.
DPI devotes an entire Web page to “Power and Privilege,” including links to racial justice workshops and online tests where VISTA volunteers can “learn about your personal bias.”
One “diversity” document linked to DPI’s Web site suggests that white people “wear a white wristband as a reminder about your privilege, and as a personal commitment to explain why you wear the wristband.”
The document -- written by a diversity resource center in New Jersey -- also suggests that white people ask themselves questions, such as: “How do I ignore privilege? What am I doing today to undo my privilege? How do I fool myself into thinking I am powerless?”
Other suggestions for white people include:
-- Set aside sections of the day to critically examine how privilege is working.
-- Put a note on your mirror or computer screen as a reminder to think about privilege.
-- Make a daily list of the ways privilege played out, and steps taken or not taken to address privilege.
-- Find a person of color who is willing to hold you accountable for addressing privilege.
The Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction is the state agency that advances public education and libraries in Wisconsin.
DPI notes that its AmeriCorps VISTA volunteers are serving in schools that are culturally and racially diverse, and therefore DPI provide “multiple opportunities for training…that help the volunteers better serve the schools and communities in which they are placed.”
(The document mentioned above is just “one strand of information” provided for Wisconsin VISTA volunteers.)
“Not only should you examine the kind of privilege you bring to your (work) site but also how power is distributed among the families, community members, and students you work with,” the DPI Web site says. “The VISTA project encourages VISTAs to think about power and privilege in the context of race, gender, socio-economic status, to name only a few.”
At the top of the DPI’s “Power and Privilege” Web page is a quotation from feminist Gloria Steinem that reads: “The first problem for all of us, men and women, is not to learn, but to unlearn.”
AmeriCorps VISTA (Volunteers in Service to America) is the national service program designed specifically to fight poverty.
VISTA members commit to serve full-time for a year at a nonprofit organization or local government agency, working to fight illiteracy, improve health services, create businesses, and strengthen community groups.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/wisconsin-s-vista-program-encourages-volunteers-overcome-white-privilege
A little to do about shit..... ::)
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Here's the tunny thing: the actual value of being white is eroding and people can't freaking handle it.
I wrote this here a few years ago and no one listened: The only important color is green.
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...and this couldn't possibly have anything to do with further dividing people.
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Here's the tunny thing: the actual value of being white is eroding and people can't freaking handle it.
I wrote this here a few years ago and no one listened: The only important color is green.
holy shit son, where you been?
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DOH
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silly indeed but if its not a privilage why do so many people act like they are having their privilages taken away?
silly indeed but if its not a privilage why do so many people act like they are having their privilages taken away?
You completely miss the point and have a very bizarre interpretation as to why this story irritates anyone with common sense and decency.
The only ones acting like its a privilege to be white are marxist special interest groups, academia and the Democratic Party leadership as a whole. They made up the entire fallacy of white privilege in order to continue perpetrating the myth that America is an inherently and permanently racist country and that as a result, some minorities (basically just blacks at this point) are entitled to government intervention and dependency for all time. DrKaje is right-- the only color that matters is GREEN. But that would imply that blacks can actually succeed on their own-- which squashes the myth of white privilege.
Not to mention the fact that for 3 decades there has been large scale institutionalized affirmative action in both the public and private sector which incontrovertibly tips the scales in favor of minority candidates (except asians)-- even in instances where minority recipients of racial preferences are actually harmed in both the short and long term.
Basically, this program's aim is to have a bunch of white people make jack asses out of themselves for the lofty goal of cultivating some non-existent understanding about racism. And not to point out the obvious, but why the fuck is time and money being wasted on garbage like this when Americas public education system is in the toilet? How about doing something that will really help inner city black kids-- like having workshops for teachers that are designed to improve their teaching methods and handle classroom situations.
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Here's the tunny thing: the actual value of being white is eroding and people can't freaking handle it.
I wrote this here a few years ago and no one listened: The only important color is green.
Welcome back bro--
Now we just need Hedge, Billy Minmnaugh and SAMSON to bring this board back to its heyday.
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holy shit son, where you been?
Busy with other stuff.
Sad thing is people just got intellectually lazy and freaking dishonest. All the retards who pretended they didn't even notice race can't help noticing no one gives a crap they're white. New flash: No one has noticed or cared for a long time and it has nothing to do with Obama. Sadder still? A lot of us were privately upset that Obama being president would let people finally notice.
Personally, I'm a cynic and find it amusing that some loser in a single-wide can even afford racism. I mean really... who sits around broke and can feel better by saying "At least I'm not black"?
I do miss the old days here, though. Nothing like the utter destruction of tiny tits caused by The Owning Squad or when Nick owned some queefs so bad they called his parents, LOL! I'm talking about the original Owning Squad, pre-Jake.
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Billy was the fucking man.
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When I think of Billy, I think of that story about him eating the nasty skank gash that left his upper lip smelling like rotten tuna for two weeks.
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I'm going to guess that you are of Irish decent?
Good guess, but the correct answer is Greek. Sorry about the whole Eurozone crisis thing, brah.
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Good guess, but the correct answer is Greek. Sorry about the whole Eurozone crisis thing, brah.
I only know one word in Greek. Guess what that is knowing me???
Hey Mavrakis!!!!
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Good guess, but the correct answer is Greek. Sorry about the whole Eurozone crisis thing, brah.
YA'SOU! 8)
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I hope to God the Supreme Court strikes the racist and ass backward affirmative action disease which does nothing except put stupid people in positions they can't handle while unquestionably contributing to the dumbing down of America's stature in the world.
With that in mind, another brilliant left wing program: Overcoming White Privilege. I think i'll speak in Ebonics and start break dancing at work today ::)
Wisconsin’s VISTA Program Encourages Volunteers to Overcome White 'Privilege’
March 13, 2013
By Patrick Burke
(CNSNews.com) - The Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction (DPI) wants its white VISTA volunteers who work with low-income, racially diverse public schools to examine the “privilege” their Caucasian race confers on them.
DPI devotes an entire Web page to “Power and Privilege,” including links to racial justice workshops and online tests where VISTA volunteers can “learn about your personal bias.”
One “diversity” document linked to DPI’s Web site suggests that white people “wear a white wristband as a reminder about your privilege, and as a personal commitment to explain why you wear the wristband.”
The document -- written by a diversity resource center in New Jersey -- also suggests that white people ask themselves questions, such as: “How do I ignore privilege? What am I doing today to undo my privilege? How do I fool myself into thinking I am powerless?”
Other suggestions for white people include:
-- Set aside sections of the day to critically examine how privilege is working.
-- Put a note on your mirror or computer screen as a reminder to think about privilege.
-- Make a daily list of the ways privilege played out, and steps taken or not taken to address privilege.
-- Find a person of color who is willing to hold you accountable for addressing privilege.
The Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction is the state agency that advances public education and libraries in Wisconsin.
DPI notes that its AmeriCorps VISTA volunteers are serving in schools that are culturally and racially diverse, and therefore DPI provide “multiple opportunities for training…that help the volunteers better serve the schools and communities in which they are placed.”
(The document mentioned above is just “one strand of information” provided for Wisconsin VISTA volunteers.)
“Not only should you examine the kind of privilege you bring to your (work) site but also how power is distributed among the families, community members, and students you work with,” the DPI Web site says. “The VISTA project encourages VISTAs to think about power and privilege in the context of race, gender, socio-economic status, to name only a few.”
At the top of the DPI’s “Power and Privilege” Web page is a quotation from feminist Gloria Steinem that reads: “The first problem for all of us, men and women, is not to learn, but to unlearn.”
AmeriCorps VISTA (Volunteers in Service to America) is the national service program designed specifically to fight poverty.
VISTA members commit to serve full-time for a year at a nonprofit organization or local government agency, working to fight illiteracy, improve health services, create businesses, and strengthen community groups.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/wisconsin-s-vista-program-encourages-volunteers-overcome-white-privilege
well first of all your stupid post referring strictly to blacks is a dead give-away of your racism....as if ONLY blacks have benefitted from affirmative action....the fact of the matter is that HISPANICS AND ASIANS HAVE BENFITTED FROM AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AND THAT WHITE WOMEN HAVE GOTTEN THE MOST EMPLOYMENT AND SOCIAL GAINS FROM AFFIRMATIVE ACTION...how convenient that those groups have been left out of your post to bolster your anti- black agenda...so my friend you have given yourself away yet again as pusrposely anti-black...which calls your reasoning into question....
Also its really funny that you are bringing up this issue because we all know that WHITES HAVE ALWAYS HAD AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SINCE THE TIME OF THE PILGRIMS..ITS CALLED DISCRIMINATION.....I guess in your racist mind, ALL WHITES are qualified for their jobs....and ALL WHITES are deemed competent and smart....
your racism boggles the mind..you've managed to embarrass yourself yet again with stupis idiotic posts which have no foundation..consider yourself officially in 333386 land along with tommy and Mcway
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Wwwaaahhhhhhh. Go back to bed.
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I just bought a makeup kit to help mask my whiteness. I'll go down to the local barbershop later today and attempt to apologize for...something.
Nevermind that despite being arbitrarily included into the 'white' gerrymander, most of my people came to this country in a post-slavery context and were treated just as poorly as blacks.
Thanks Wisconsin (or rather, a small class of self-hating persons within Wisconsin).
this post is beneath you..I thought you were smarter than this
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You completely miss the point and have a very bizarre interpretation as to why this story irritates anyone with common sense and decency.
The only ones acting like its a privilege to be white are marxist special interest groups, academia and the Democratic Party leadership as a whole. They made up the entire fallacy of white privilege in order to continue perpetrating the myth that America is an inherently and permanently racist country and that as a result, some minorities (basically just blacks at this point) are entitled to government intervention and dependency for all time. DrKaje is right-- the only color that matters is GREEN. But that would imply that blacks can actually succeed on their own-- which squashes the myth of white privilege.
Not to mention the fact that for 3 decades there has been large scale institutionalized affirmative action in both the public and private sector which incontrovertibly tips the scales in favor of minority candidates (except asians)-- even in instances where minority recipients of racial preferences are actually harmed in both the short and long term.
Basically, this program's aim is to have a bunch of white people make jack asses out of themselves for the lofty goal of cultivating some non-existent understanding about racism. And not to point out the obvious, but why the fuck is time and money being wasted on garbage like this when Americas public education system is in the toilet? How about doing something that will really help inner city black kids-- like having workshops for teachers that are designed to improve their teaching methods and handle classroom situations.
again mentioning just blacks in your post...keep it up..you are so proving my point ;)...you need to ask yourself why are black people on your mind so much today???
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again mentioneing just blacks in your post...keep it up..you are so proving my point ;)
Stay out da bushes.
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Stay out da bushes.
another intellectually challenged post consisting of your maximum four words....thats how you got to 100,000 posts so quickly
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actually my posts aren't for you , idiot,...your intellectual functioning can't handle this type of conversation....why don't you go to YouTube and cue up some rants by some no-nothing white guy like you usually do
You meant "know nothing?" Genius?
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another intellectually challenged post consisting of your maximum four words....thats how you got to 100,000 posts so quickly
We're you in Brooklyn rioting last night?
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Stay out da bushes.
are you always this articulate or did you make a special effort on this occasion?
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well first of all your stupid post referring strictly to blacks is a dead give-away of your racism....as if ONLY blacks have benefitted from affirmative action....the fact of the matter is that HISPANICS AND ASIANS HAVE BENFITTED FROM AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AND THAT WHITE WOMEN HAVE GOTTEN THE MOST EMPLOYMENT AND SOCIAL GAINS FROM AFFIRMATIVE ACTION...how convenient that those groups have been left out of your post to bolster your anti- black agenda...so my friend you have given yourself away yet again as pusrposely anti-black...which calls your reasoning into question....
Also its really funny that you are bringing up this issue because we all know that WHITES HAVE ALWAYS HAD AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SINCE THE TIME OF THE PILGRIMS..ITS CALLED DISCRIMINATION.....I guess in your racist mind, ALL WHITES are qualified for their jobs....and ALL WHITES are deemed competent and smart....
your racism boggles the mind..you've managed to embarrass yourself yet again with stupis idiotic posts which have no foundation..consider yourself officially in 333386 land along with tommy and Mcway
- There are more women than men in college today
- Wages are virtually identical
- Test scores are virtually identical
- Women do not need affirmative action
And by the way-- The lawsuit before the Supreme Court in the current session which will determine the future of affirmative action was brought by... (wait for it).... a WHITE WOMAN.
-Historically, Asians are actually better test takers than whites and in many instances ( especially academia) Asians do not receive any special treatment because of race.
- Asians do not need affirmative action.
It is interesting to observe your simple minded justification for racial quotas and affirmative action. It's the same childish argument liberals make for everything. You want to believe that your point of view is righteous and justified but there is no actual evidence to substantiate your position. But, instead of conceding that reality and imagination are diametrically opposed, you insist on facilitating your delusions through the use of unverifiable generalizations which concern things that you clearly don't understand. Absent evidence, your conclude by rubberstamping a one size fits all moral equivalency argument to underscore your conveniently self imposed moral high ground. Its the- "So what if OJ did it, Whites definitely got away with murder before because America is racist" argument. It's also the Obama presidency argument. It's also the (fill in the blank).
You seriously just made the argument that affirmative action should continue in 2013 because since the Pilgrims, Whites have been given preferential treatment for jobs. ::)
Does anything else even need to be said?
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Stay out da bushes.
this^^^ hahahah!!!
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Hey you greaseball wop, you must mean 'malakas' seeing as Mavrakis is a proper name.
He needs to play more GTA IV:
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He needs to play more GTA IV:
Oh yeah..... Always wondered what that meant!!
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Today, at work, a friend was concentrating on something... asked if he was contemplating his white privilege. :) He laughed and asked for a bracelet, LOL! He said the idea was so stupid that he'd love to be black to properly laugh at it. I made him an honorary black man, gave official permission to use the N-word, and gave some basic instruction on the correct inflection to pronounce properly.
It was a good day.
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Hey you greaseball wop, you must mean 'malakas' seeing as Mavrakis is a proper name.
What exactly is unintelligent about my comments? I simply find it funny that officials in Wisconsin are arbitrarily classifying my people as white and instructing us to feel guilty independent of our history and independent of the fact that historically, we've had as little access to the power structures of the country as blacks.
Mavrakis is a little ______. Malaka is a bigger ______
Right?
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Mavrakis is a surname. So, unless thousands of Greeks (like Obi Wan's wife) are titled 'little niggar,' I'm afraid you are mistaken.
'Malaka' ends up functioning like the n-word: it can be utilized among friends but is liable to end in fisticuffs if uttered to a random stranger. I'm not aware of any differentiation between little niggars and big niggars.
I learned it on the streets of Asotoria Queens from my two best friends who are Greek. Both are far more racist then I am FYI.
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I learned it on the streets of Asotoria Queens from my two best friends who are Greek. Both are far more racist then I am FYI.
You say this with such glee..glad to see how delighted you are that you fit in
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- There are more women than men in college today
- Wages are virtually identical
- Test scores are virtually identical
- Women do not need affirmative action
And by the way-- The lawsuit before the Supreme Court in the current session which will determine the future of affirmative action was brought by... (wait for it).... a WHITE WOMAN.
-Historically, Asians are actually better test takers than whites and in many instances ( especially academia) Asians do not receive any special treatment because of race.
- Asians do not need affirmative action.
It is interesting to observe your simple minded justification for racial quotas and affirmative action. It's the same childish argument liberals make for everything. You want to believe that your point of view is righteous and justified but there is no actual evidence to substantiate your position. But, instead of conceding that reality and imagination are diametrically opposed, you insist on facilitating your delusions through the use of unverifiable generalizations which concern things that you clearly don't understand. Absent evidence, your conclude by rubberstamping a one size fits all moral equivalency argument to underscore your conveniently self imposed moral high ground. Its the- "So what if OJ did it, Whites definitely got away with murder before because America is racist" argument. It's also the Obama presidency argument. It's also the (fill in the blank).
You seriously just made the argument that affirmative action should continue in 2013 because since the Pilgrims, Whites have been given preferential treatment for jobs. ::)
Does anything else even need to be said?
whether in your feeble mind they deserve it or not women HAVE BEEN AND CONTINUE TO BE, the beneficiaries of affirmative action...also its really weird how you make up assertions in your posts...which is the sign of a troll.....I never made any assertion that affirmative action should continue due to past racial bias by whites nor did I even say whether I was FOR OR AGAINST affirmative action...I simply stated facts and countered your incredibly stupiid assertion that ONLY BLACKS have benefitted from affirmative action and I pointed out past racism by whites...I wonder why you don't talk about that?
I AM SO GODDAMNED TIRED OF DESTROYING YOU
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I learned it on the streets of Asotoria Queens from my two best friends who are Greek. Both are far more racist then I am FYI.
It happens pretty often.
The children of immigrants magically become white.
Want to hear some real racism?! Find an Indian person and get their honest opinion. They darn near invented structuring society based upon skin color, LOL! Dated an Indian chick for a while and she pretty much believed any white person (in America) who didn't find a way to become rich was just lazy.
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It happens pretty often.
The children of immigrants magically become white.
Want to hear some real racism?! Find an Indian person and get their honest opinion. They darn near invented structuring society based upon skin color, LOL! Dated an Indian chick for a while and she pretty much believed any white person (in America) who didn't find a way to become rich was just lazy.
You know what's really hilarious... I myself have on many occasions reaped the benefits of "white skin privilege",
...at least until they discovered my skin was not white. I can assure you the contrast in my treatment afterwards became markedly different. Some people were able to disguise the shock they experienced, ...others were not.
There have been all sorts of studies done whereby job candidates were selected on the basis of their resumes alone. They took the resumes of foreign immigrants, copied them, and substituted the candidates name for a very WASPy name, ...all other factors were identical. (ie: education, work experience etc...) The candidates with the WASPy sounding names were at least 5 - 6 x's more likely to be called in for interviews.
When you look at the case of Abner Louima, who was gunned down on his own front porch by NYPD's finest for reaching for his wallet. Here was a man, an African immigrant, sitting on his own front porch, minding his own business, in a Black neighbourhood. These plain clothes officers thought a Black man sitting on a front porch was "suspicious" and confronted him. Due to a language barrier and the aggressive manner in which the plain clothes officers approached, he thought he was being robbed, and attempted to give them his wallet. The officers immediately opened fire on him, riddling him with 41 bullets if memory serves me correctly. The police and many white NY'ers then attempted to blame Mr. Louima because "He should have known they were police officers." When asked how he should have known this, the response was, "Because they were white, he should have known they were 'the good guys' ". ::)
Then there was the case of the brown skinned secret service agent who was ordered off an airplane shortly after 911, because the white passengers on that plane didn't feel comfortable being on the airplane with him.
How many blond haired, blue eyed, white men were kicked out of federal buildings after Oklahoma City?
When was the last time a blond haired, blue eyed white male was ordered to leave someplace because Ted Bundy had committed heinous crimes. We never see White males being ordered out of steak houses because Jeffrey Dalhmer was on a killing spree, chopping up people and using their internal organs as entrees.
The truth is white skin privilege DOES exist, ...not to the extent it did before, but it does exist, and to deny it's existence makes you either one who is ignorant, or simply disengenuous.
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- There are more women than men in college today
- Wages are virtually identical
- Test scores are virtually identical
- Women do not need affirmative action
If you consider a woman earning 77 cents for every dollar a man earns to be virtually identical, then ya. ::)
When Christine Jones gets a call for an interview, as many times as she does when submitting a resume under the name of Chris Jones, then perhaps.
And by the way-- The lawsuit before the Supreme Court in the current session which will determine the future of affirmative action was brought by... (wait for it).... a WHITE WOMAN.
So, ...Joe the plumber was campaigning for John McCain in 2008. what's your point?
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If you consider a woman earning 77 cents for every dollar a man earns to be virtually identical, then ya. ::)
When Christine Jones gets a call for an interview, as many times as she does when submitting a resume under the name of Chris Jones, then perhaps.
So, ...Joe the plumber was campaigning for John McCain in 2008. what's your point?
The stupidity of your response is a self owning by default. I could dig up some actual facts to embarrass you, but what would be the point? You're a moron. Andre is a moron. You guys will always be morons. Affirmative action was designed for people like you. No amount of facts or reality will set you straight so there is no point in wasting my time. Continue wallowing in ignorance. I'm sure there will always be a government program to pay for it.
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You know what's really hilarious... I myself have on many occasions reaped the benefits of "white skin privilege",
...at least until they discovered my skin was not white. I can assure you the contrast in my treatment afterwards became markedly different. Some people were able to disguise the shock they experienced, ...others were not.
There have been all sorts of studies done whereby job candidates were selected on the basis of their resumes alone. They took the resumes of foreign immigrants, copied them, and substituted the candidates name for a very WASPy name, ...all other factors were identical. (ie: education, work experience etc...) The candidates with the WASPy sounding names were at least 5 - 6 x's more likely to be called in for interviews.
When you look at the case of Abner Louima, who was gunned down on his own front porch by NYPD's finest for reaching for his wallet. Here was a man, an African immigrant, sitting on his own front porch, minding his own business, in a Black neighbourhood. These plain clothes officers thought a Black man sitting on a front porch was "suspicious" and confronted him. Due to a language barrier and the aggressive manner in which the plain clothes officers approached, he thought he was being robbed, and attempted to give them his wallet. The officers immediately opened fire on him, riddling him with 41 bullets if memory serves me correctly. The police and many white NY'ers then attempted to blame Mr. Louima because "He should have known they were police officers." When asked how he should have known this, the response was, "Because they were white, he should have known they were 'the good guys' ". ::)
Then there was the case of the brown skinned secret service agent who was ordered off an airplane shortly after 911, because the white passengers on that plane didn't feel comfortable being on the airplane with him.
How many blond haired, blue eyed, white men were kicked out of federal buildings after Oklahoma City?
When was the last time a blond haired, blue eyed white male was ordered to leave someplace because Ted Bundy had committed heinous crimes. We never see White males being ordered out of steak houses because Jeffrey Dalhmer was on a killing spree, chopping up people and using their internal organs as entrees.
The truth is white skin privilege DOES exist, ...not to the extent it did before, but it does exist, and to deny it's existence makes you either one who is ignorant, or simply disengenuous.
This is a truly amazing post but unfortunately only those who have actual education and an open mind to the truth will appreciate it...the idiots on here will put it down immediately of course because they don't want to hear about anything that shows how whites are really treated and how others are discriminated against....whites seem to have this thing where they are so afraid of their privilege being exposed because it puts to rest their bullshit "all people are treated equally under the constitution" bullshit.....and it would also show the true advantages they have so they can't pull that "I can do it why can't you" bullcrap either
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This is a truly amazing post but unfortunately only those who have actual education and an open mind to the truth will appreciate it...the idiots on here will put it down immediately of course because they don't want to hear about anything that shows how whites are really treated and how others are discriminated against....whites seem to have this thing where they are so afraid of their privilege being exposed because it puts to rest their bullshit "all people are treated equally under the constitution" bullshit.....and it would also show the true advantages they have so they can't pull that "I can do it why can't you" bullcrap either
Yes, your education is displayed in your outstanding grammar!
Keep up the good work Andre!
I'm sorry you're not satisfied with all that white people have provided you. Maybe you shouldn't bite the hand that feeds though?
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The stupidity of your response is a self owning by default. I could dig up some actual facts to embarrass you, but what would be the point? You're a moron. Andre is a moron. You guys will always be morons.
Only in so much that I actually took a few moments to respond to your BS!
I'd like to remind you that ad hom attacks are not supposed to occur here,
...but as usual that really depends upon whom the attack is directed right?
Affirmative action was designed for people like you.
Uh... yes, as a matter of fact it was. Affirmative action was designed for people like me, ...and others.
And it was due to those traditional barriers erected against "people like me" that spurred me to be my own boss, become an entrepreneur and rise above that glass ceiling. White skin privilege means never having to be twice as good, simply to be accepted as equal.
No amount of facts or reality will set you straight so there is no point in wasting my time. Continue wallowing in ignorance. I'm sure there will always be a government program to pay for it.
I'd be a liar if I didn't admit that the mere thought of you seething with bitterness & resentment gives me far more pleasure & satisfaction, than enlightening you would. So indulge your ignorance, stroke your ego, and console yourself by assuming you lost out to a minority due to A/A. I'm sure it's much easier on your ego than admitting you simply weren't good enough.
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Yes, your education is displayed in your outstanding grammer!
Keep up the good work Andre!
I'm sorry you're not satisfied with all that white people have provided you. Maybe you shouldn't bite the hand that feeds though?
every time someone has been owned and has no response, they comment on someone's grammar....we are all just throwing up our thoughts quickly and not paying much attention to grammar and senteence structure...this isn't school....you could not garner a response to my posts because you have been intellectually owned here...admit that and save yourself some dignity..
by the way..not only did I own you, you owned yourself by commenting on my grammar...you spelled grammar wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't think I'll be seeing you in this thread again 8)
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every time someone has been owned and has no response, they comment on someone's grammar....we are all just throwing up our thoughts quickly and not paying much attention to grammar and senteence structure...this isn't school....you could not garner a response to my posts because you have been intellectually owned here...admit that and save yourself some dignity.. by the way..not only did I own you, you owned yourself by commenting on my grammar...you spelled grammar wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't think I'll be seeing you in this thread again 8)
Self ownage!!! haha!! Almost on par with yours! 4am mistake, occasionally I have to get up early on Sunday to support your family (and mine). Exercising my white privilege a little bit.
Instead of focusing on how you've been done wrong, you people should focus on proving yourselves and building something. The way white people have since before your people came out of the wild.
How much can we give?
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Self ownage!!! haha!! Almost on par with yours! 4am mistake, occasionally I have to get up early on Sunday to support your family (and mine). Exercising my white privilege a little bit.
Instead of focusing on how you've been done wrong, you people should focus on proving yourselves and building something. The way white people have since before your people came out of the wild.
How much can we give?
if you're up at 4am posting on GetBig, then you're not supporting anybody
self-ownage again :D
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George Will taking his cue (and moniker) from the one and only GW.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-f-will-schools-push-a-curriculum-of-propaganda/2013/04/03/6d25550e-9bc1-11e2-a941-a19bce7af755_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-f-will-schools-push-a-curriculum-of-propaganda/2013/04/03/6d25550e-9bc1-11e2-a941-a19bce7af755_story.html)
Schools push a curriculum of propaganda
By George F. Will, Published: April 3
The real vocation of some people entrusted with delivering primary and secondary education is to validate this proposition: The three R’s — formerly reading, ’riting and ’rithmetic — now are racism, reproduction and recycling. Especially racism. Consider Wisconsin’s Department of Public Instruction. It evidently considers “instruction” synonymous with “propaganda,” which in the patois of progressivism is called “consciousness-raising.”
Wisconsin’s DPI, in collaboration with the Orwellian-named federal program VISTA (Volunteers in Service to America; the “volunteers” are paid), urged white students to wear white wristbands “as a reminder about your privilege, and as a personal commitment to explain why you wear the wristband.” A flyer that was on the DPI Web site and distributed at a DPI-VISTA training class urged whites to “put a note on your mirror or computer screen as a reminder to think about privilege,” to “make a daily list of the ways privilege played out” and to conduct an “internal dialogue” asking questions such as “How do I make myself comfortable with privilege?” and “What am I doing today to undo my privilege?”
After criticism erupted, the DPI removed the flyer from its Web site and posted a dishonest statement claiming that the wristbands were a hoax perpetrated by conservatives. But, again, the flyer DPI posted explicitly advocated the wristbands. And Wisconsin’s taxpayer-funded indoctrination continues, funded by more than Wisconsin taxpayers.
In Delavan-Darien High School’s “American Diversity” curriculum, students were urged to verify white privilege by visiting a Wal-Mart toy section and counting the white and black dolls. After objections, the school district is reconsidering this curriculum.
Such distractions from the study of calculus and literature are encouraged by CREATE Wisconsin (the acronym stands for Culturally Responsive Education for All: Training and Enhancement), which is funded with federal tax dollars from IDEA, the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act. The disability being rectified here is, presumably, the handicap of insufficient guilt — arising from false consciousness — about white privilege.
Today, the school systems in 20 states employ more non-teachers than teachers. The Friedman Foundation for Educational Choice reports that between 1950 and 2009, while the number of K-12 students increased 96 percent, full-time-equivalent school employees increased 386 percent. The number of teachers increased 252 percent, but the number of bureaucrats — including consciousness-raising sensitivity enforcers and other non-teachers — increased 702 percent. The report says states could have saved more than $24 billion annually if non-teaching staff had grown only as fast as student enrollment. And Americans wonder why their generous K-12 financing (higher per pupil than all but three of the 34 Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development nations) has done so little to improve reading, math and science scores.
Higher education, from which much of such diversity and sensitivity nonsense trickles down, cries poverty while spending lavishly on administrative overhead irrelevant to its teaching and research missions. The Manhattan Institute’s Heather Mac Donald notes that in 2011, while the University of California at San Diego was pruning academic offerings, it created a “vice chancellor for equity, diversity and inclusion” to augment a diversity apparatus that included an assistant vice chancellor for diversity; faculty advisers, staff, graduate and undergraduate diversity coordinators and liaisons; a director of development for diversity initiatives; the Committee on Gender Identity and Sexual Orientation Issues; the Diversity Council; the Campus Council on Climate, Culture and Inclusion; and much more. Perhaps tens of millions could be diverted from progressive gestures to academic purposes by abolishing on every American campus every administrative position whose title contains the words “diversity,” “equity,” “race,” “ethnicity,” “sustainability,” “green,” “gender,” “inclusion,” “identity,” “interconnectivity,” “globalization,” “climate,” “campus climate,” “cross-cultural” or “multiculturalism.”
No corner of the country is immune to propaganda pretending to be pedagogy. Lincoln Brown of KVEL-AM in Vernal, Utah, says one student from the University of Utah showed him required reading that told students to “list ways your family may have colluded with or benefited from the exploitation of African-Americans.” Another reading was titled “White Privilege — Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack.”
Twenty-five years ago, President Reagan, paraphrasing Education Secretary William Bennett, said: “If you serve a child a rotten hamburger in America, federal, state and local agencies will investigate you, summon you, close you down, whatever. But if you provide a child with a rotten education, nothing happens, except that you’re liable to be given more money to do it with.” But only until the soaring tuition's and taxes that fund this featherbedding for administrators of political correctness create a critical mass of parental and taxpayer disgust.
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Can't lie... as a person of interracial mixing, I appreciate the fact that I look white.
I appreciate the privilege it gives me every day.
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Can't lie... as a person of interracial mixing, I appreciate the fact that I look white.
I appreciate the privilege it gives me every day.
Because women don't cringe in fear when you approach them?
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Because women don't cringe in fear when you approach them?
They do not!
Looking like a fantastic white specimen does have it's advantages... I mean, Kim Kardashian won't touch me... but she's tainted anyway.
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They do not!
Looking like a fantastic white specimen does have it's advantages...
Like not having to endure "Stop & Frisk"?
I mean, Kim Kardashian won't touch me... but she's tainted anyway.
LOL. I'm sorry, but that made me LOL! ;D
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Can't lie... as a person of interracial mixing, I appreciate the fact that I look white.
I appreciate the privilege it gives me every day.
Such as?
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Just wanted to thank you guys for this thread.
It's provided tons of fun for me in real life. I ask a friend "Where's your white bracelet?" or "Busy contemplating your white privilege?!" and we have a good laugh.
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Such as?
you already know
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There is no such thing as black privilege. Plenty of white and Asian students get into Harvard with 1200 SAT scores.
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you already know
No. And I'm not trolling u. I've always felt I worked hard for anything I have and almost always had 2 jobs early in my career to help make ends meet.
So...stop crying racism and kindly explain why I have white privilige.
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Such as?
People don't follow me around the local convenience store waiting for me to steal stuff.
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No. And I'm not trolling u. I've always felt I worked hard for anything I have and almost always had 2 jobs early in my career to help make ends meet.
So...stop crying racism and kindly explain why I have white privilige.
It's not that racism doesn't exist. But, my attitude is that racism will find you; there's no need to go looking for it. To borrow a line from the "Josephine Baker Story", "There's no shame in being black but it can be inconvenient at times!"
In this day and age, black people need to be more concerned with the self-inflicted wounds that plague our communities, instead of obsessing with "white privilege" and what evil whitey is supposedly doing to us.
The last time I checked, white people aren't opening our women's legs, throwing black men between them, and forcing them to have sex, resulting in popping out babies.....to the point where only about a fourth of them are born in wedlock.
Yet, whenever people like Bill Cosby or Ben Carson point this out, they get reamed by so-called civil rights activists (i.e. Melissa Harris-Perry) who look for excuses and prop up failed liberal policies.
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Someone send me one of those bracelets. :)
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It's not that racism doesn't exist. But, my attitude is that racism will find you; there's no need to go looking for it. To borrow a line from the "Josephine Baker Story", "There's no shame in being black but it can be inconvenient at times!"
In this day and age, black people need to be more concerned with the self-inflicted wounds that plague our communities, instead of obsessing with "white privilege" and what evil whitey is supposedly doing to us.
The last time I checked, white people aren't opening our women's legs, throwing black men between them, and forcing them to have sex, resulting in popping out babies.....to the point where only about a fourth of them are born in wedlock.
Yet, whenever people like Bill Cosby or Ben Carson point this out, they get reamed by so-called civil rights activists (i.e. Melissa Harris-Perry) who look for excuses and prop up failed liberal policies.
Agreed. I think everyone knows that racism still exists...and probably will long after we're dead. But if my great white privilege is that somebody isn't following me around in a store, it sounds like woefully empty argument.
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Agreed. I think everyone knows that racism still exists...and probably will long after we're dead. But if my great white privilege is that somebody isn't following me around in a store, it sounds like woefully empty argument.
There's some other perks really... I was watching an expose on someone who called around looking for apartments and when they used names like Tyrone and Juaquin, they were told they had none... Same people called back and said "Bob" and "James" and they were asked to come by for a viewing.
There are some benefits to looking white in the US still.
But if a black person tells you they are "oppressed" then they are full of shit.
My mom and dad got married in the early 70s. They lived in the south... If they could deal with it, then fuck anyone's statement that they were "oppressed".
No black person under the age of 40 has been "oppressed"... They may have seen racism, but they were not under "oppression".
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There's some other perks really... I was watching an expose on someone who called around looking for apartments and when they used names like Tyrone and Juaquin, they were told they had none... Same people called back and said "Bob" and "James" and they were asked to come by for a viewing.
There are some benefits to looking white in the US still.
But if a black person tells you they are "oppressed" then they are full of shit.
My mom and dad got married in the early 70s. They lived in the south... If they could deal with it, then fuck anyone's statement that they were "oppressed".
No black person under the age of 40 has been "oppressed"... They may have seen racism, but they were not under "oppression".
Andre has been depressed, oppressed, repressed, and supressed - know what im saying? ;D
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No. And I'm not trolling u. I've always felt I worked hard for anything I have and almost always had 2 jobs early in my career to help make ends meet.
So...stop crying racism and kindly explain why I have white privilige.
not crying racism at all...and congrats on your hard work and diligence,,,but white privilege is a fact..anybody debating this is nuts
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not crying racism at all...and congrats on your hard work and diligence,,,but white privilege is a fact..anybody debating this is nuts
Maybe if you pull your pants up, drop the gold grill in your mouth, twist your hat straight, stop dealing, and stop jacking old ladies on the 4 - things will change?
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It's not that racism doesn't exist. But, my attitude is that racism will find you; there's no need to go looking for it. To borrow a line from the "Josephine Baker Story", "There's no shame in being black but it can be inconvenient at times!"
In this day and age, black people need to be more concerned with the self-inflicted wounds that plague our communities, instead of obsessing with "white privilege" and what evil whitey is supposedly doing to us.
The last time I checked, white people aren't opening our women's legs, throwing black men between them, and forcing them to have sex, resulting in popping out babies.....to the point where only about a fourth of them are born in wedlock.
Yet, whenever people like Bill Cosby or Ben Carson point this out, they get reamed by so-called civil rights activists (i.e. Melissa Harris-Perry) who look for excuses and prop up failed liberal policies.
I agree with this...good job
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There's some other perks really... I was watching an expose on someone who called around looking for apartments and when they used names like Tyrone and Juaquin, they were told they had none... Same people called back and said "Bob" and "James" and they were asked to come by for a viewing.
There are some benefits to looking white in the US still.
But if a black person tells you they are "oppressed" then they are full of shit.
My mom and dad got married in the early 70s. They lived in the south... If they could deal with it, then fuck anyone's statement that they were "oppressed".
No black person under the age of 40 has been "oppressed"... They may have seen racism, but they were not under "oppression".
This is not too accurate but I do see your point
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Andre has been depressed, oppressed, repressed, and supressed - know what im saying? ;D
;D ;D
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Maybe if you pull your pants up, drop the gold grill in your mouth, twist your hat straight, stop dealing, and stop jacking old ladies on the 4 - things will change?
That's the first thing that came to mind when Tu said being followed. Usually, Monday thru Friday, I'm in a coat & tie. If I walked into a store with my pants half way down my ass, bandana with a knot in the front, big baggy T-shirt.....they might just follow me.
But Tu's got a point about the oppression. Older black people who had to read signs saying "white only" can truly claim oppression. People our age, not so much.
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That's the first thing that came to mind when Tu said being followed. Usually, Monday thru Friday, I'm in a coat & tie. If I walked into a store with my pants half way down my ass, bandana with a knot in the front, big baggy T-shirt.....they might just follow me.
But Tu's got a point about the oppression. Older black people who had to read signs saying "white only" can truly claim oppression. People our age, not so much.
Most older black folk I know are people of respect and dignity. Thr young thugs are just all around pos
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That's the first thing that came to mind when Tu said being followed. Usually, Monday thru Friday, I'm in a coat & tie. If I walked into a store with my pants half way down my ass, bandana with a knot in the front, big baggy T-shirt.....they might just follow me.
Not every Black person walks around with his pants half way down his ass, wearing a bandana with a knot in the front, and a big baggy T-shirt.
I dunno... when Mayor Dinkins (then mayor of NYC) is unable to catch a cab... something is very wrong.
But Tu's got a point about the oppression. Older black people who had to read signs saying "white only" can truly claim oppression. People our age, not so much.
It's all relative. I'm sure people in 1950's were saying "Today's Blacks have it real good. They can march and the worse that'll happen is they get police dogs & water cannons unleashed on them... back in my day, they'd pull out a noose if I even thought about marching or protesting."
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This is not too accurate but I do see your point
What is not accurate about it?
Have you been oppressed?
How?
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Most older black folk I know are people of respect and dignity. Thr young thugs are just all around pos
The operative words being "young thugs". Stop hanging out with thugs, and start associating with people of respect & dignity. They can be found in all age categories.
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Andre has been depressed, oppressed, repressed, and supressed - know what im saying? ;D
Don't forget that he has been pissed on, as well.
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Not every Black person walks around with his pants half way down his ass, wearing a bandana with a knot in the front, and a big baggy T-shirt.
I dunno... when Mayor Dinkins (then mayor of NYC) is unable to catch a cab... something is very wrong.
It's all relative. I'm sure people in 1950's were saying "Today's Blacks have it real good. They can march and the worse that'll happen is they get police dogs & water cannons unleashed on them... back in my day, they'd pull out a noose if I even thought about marching or protesting."
I didn't say they did. Maybe that's the issue. You're so busy being defensive and worrying that someone is slighting you, that you think some special privilege exists.
If a black man or women was wearing coat and tie or business attire, I wouldn't expect they would be following him/her around the store. Anybody, regardless of race, dressed like a gang banger might just be followed.
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Not every Black person walks around with his pants half way down his ass, wearing a bandana with a knot in the front, and a big baggy T-shirt.
I dunno... when Mayor Dinkins (then mayor of NYC) is unable to catch a cab... something is very wrong.
It's all relative. I'm sure people in 1950's were saying "Today's Blacks have it real good. They can march and the worse that'll happen is they get police dogs & water cannons unleashed on them... back in my day, they'd pull out a noose if I even thought about marching or protesting."
Dinkins was a DISASTER!!!! I lkive here. He was a DISASTER
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I didn't say they did. Maybe that's the issue. You're so busy being defensive and worrying that someone is slighting you, that you think some special privilege exists.
If a black man or women was wearing coat and tie or business attire, I wouldn't expect they would be following him/her around the store. Anybody, regardless of race, dressed like a gang banger might just be followed.
Sorry, man.
Black guys get followed.
A few months ago I was at Best Buy with the kids and not one person tried waiting on us. I got annoyed and told the oldest girl "I bet someone will come to help us if I pick up a computer". Their computers are tethered but within 10 seconds of picking one up someone came over to help, despite being ignored with three kids the whole time.
At least 5 people on this site have personally met me. They'll say I don't dress ghetto and am generally what would be considered well-educated.
Things are what things are. That's not the first time I've been followed and it won't be the last. The important thing is to not let situations or some random assclown be empowered to determine what kind of day you're going to have. :)
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I didn't say they did. Maybe that's the issue. You're so busy being defensive and worrying that someone is slighting you, that you think some special privilege exists.
If a black man or women was wearing coat and tie or business attire, I wouldn't expect they would be following him/her around the store. Anybody, regardless of race, dressed like a gang banger might just be followed.
I'm not being defensive. I'm simply refusing to be dismissive of your comments.
What you would or wouldn't expect is irrelevant. Your white skin priviledge makes it irrelevant.
Ask Oprah Winfrey about being followed around in a jewelry store, ...that is... if the racist POS store clerk will even buzz her in.
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Dinkins was a DISASTER!!!! I lkive here. He was a DISASTER
Disaster or not, he was a Black man who dressed in expensive suits & ties, ...but still couldn't catch a cab.
mayor of the frikkin' city, and can't catch a cab?!!!
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Sorry, man.
Black guys get followed.
A few months ago I was at Best Buy with the kids and not one person tried waiting on us. I got annoyed and told the oldest girl "I bet someone will come to help us if I pick up a computer". Their computers are tethered but within 10 seconds of picking one up someone came over to help, despite being ignored with three kids the whole time.
At least 5 people on this site have personally met me. They'll say I don't dress ghetto and am generally what would be considered well-educated.
Things are what things are. That's not the first time I've been followed and it won't be the last. The important thing is to not let situations or some random assclown be empowered to determine what kind of day you're going to have. :)
^^^^ This!
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There are privileges for every race black included...
why dont you whiney bitches quit worrying about race and live your fuking lives
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There are privileges for every race black included...
why dont you whiney bitches quit worrying about race and live your fuking lives
What are the privileges to being Black? ...besides usually getting picked first for the basketball team?
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What are the privileges to being Black? ...besides usually getting picked first for the basketball team?
affirmative action, scholarships for blacks
being able to be racist and not get called on it, playing the race card....
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affirmative action, scholarships for blacks
being able to be racist and not get called on it, playing the race card....
Seems to me to be plenty of equal opportunity as far as that goes.
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What are the privileges to being Black? ...besides usually getting picked first for the basketball team?
Bigger penis, higher bone density, and almost always the coolest person in any situation. :)
We can freely say the N-word and all its variations.
I don't know nuthin' 'bout affirmative action and haven't benefited from it. It someone tried giving me extra money or a better job just for being black I'd take it. Everyone gets some kind of hookup for a reason like friends, family, or simply the boss feeling more comfortable because you look like they do. I think affirmative action is crap but it's been in place for the majority a long time.
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No whites or Asians are getting into Harvard or any other elite university on 1200 SAT scores. :)
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Your white skin priviledge makes it irrelevant.
Pretty sure skip is black.
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What is not accurate about it?
Have you been oppressed?
How?
if I told you, you wouldn't agree with it anyway so why bother
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Don't forget that he has been pissed on, as well.
unlike you Ive been pissed on by women, not men
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I didn't say they did. Maybe that's the issue. You're so busy being defensive and worrying that someone is slighting you, that you think some special privilege exists.
If a black man or women was wearing coat and tie or business attire, I wouldn't expect they would be following him/her around the store. Anybody, regardless of race, dressed like a gang banger might just be followed.
this is why you won't ever understand true racism......the fact of the matter is blacks who look like this DO suffer discrimination anyway......in housing, jobs, just getting a taxi....being stopped in stores.....look at Forrest Whitaker, a world famous actor being stopped on suspicion of shoplifting
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Sorry, man.
Black guys get followed.
A few months ago I was at Best Buy with the kids and not one person tried waiting on us. I got annoyed and told the oldest girl "I bet someone will come to help us if I pick up a computer". Their computers are tethered but within 10 seconds of picking one up someone came over to help, despite being ignored with three kids the whole time.
At least 5 people on this site have personally met me. They'll say I don't dress ghetto and am generally what would be considered well-educated.
Things are what things are. That's not the first time I've been followed and it won't be the last. The important thing is to not let situations or some random assclown be empowered to determine what kind of day you're going to have. :)
I agree with your post...but I don't know what is more disturbing....you being ignored because your black or you actually meeting people from this site ;)
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There are privileges for every race black included...
why dont you whiney bitches quit worrying about race and live your fuking lives
actually blacks don't really worry about it..it is what it is..we know we can deal with it...but to talk about it is not being "whiney" as you put it....
my my our panties are in a bunch today
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I'm not being defensive. I'm simply refusing to be dismissive of your comments.
What you would or wouldn't expect is irrelevant. Your white skin priviledge makes it irrelevant.
Ask Oprah Winfrey about being followed around in a jewelry store, ...that is... if the racist POS store clerk will even buzz her in.
true story.....good job
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Bigger penis, higher bone density, and almost always the coolest person in any situation. :)
We can freely say the N-word and all its variations.
I don't know nuthin' 'bout affirmative action and haven't benefited from it. It someone tried giving me extra money or a better job just for being black I'd take it. Everyone gets some kind of hookup for a reason like friends, family, or simply the boss feeling more comfortable because you look like they do. I think affirmative action is crap but it's been in place for the majority a long time.
awesome post..which is what whites fail to realize and will never own up to because it destroys their arguments....affirmative action has always been around in America..it was only for whites.....yet whites get upset that blacks are given a fair shot for the last 40 years or so
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I agree with your post...but I don't know what is more disturbing....you being ignored because your black or you actually meeting people from this site ;)
The people I met were really nice and I'd love to see most of them again.
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awesome post..which is what whites fail to realize and will never own up to because it destroys their arguments....affirmative action has always been around in America..it was only for whites.....yet whites get upset that blacks are given a fair shot for the last 40 years or so
Does anyone know anyone that the United Negro College Fund has ever helped?
I have not.
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We had a good run but it's only a matter of time before the white man gets his turn.
We're still superior in every way imaginable, so enjoy it while it lasts. Thankfully I'll be dead before anything horrible happens like having to hire white people to do my gardening.
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We had a good run but it's only a matter of time before the white man gets his turn.
We're still superior in every way imaginable, so enjoy it while it lasts. Thankfully I'll be dead before anything horrible happens like having to hire white people to do my gardening.
Check out Mugabe and the White African... White Privilege
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Does anyone know anyone that the United Negro College Fund has ever helped?
I have not.
Not personally.
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actually blacks don't really worry about it..it is what it is..we know we can deal with it...but to talk about it is not being "whiney" as you put it....
my my our panties are in a bunch today
you know what it really shows with all the black entertainment shows, radio, magazines, organizations etc....
yea your right blacks dont focus on race at all ::)
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Does anyone know anyone that the United Negro College Fund has ever helped?
I have not.
The Billionaire Annenbergs... the single biggest annual contributors to the fund. It has helped to ease their conscience. I guess after centuries of buying & selling them, they felt it was time to help educate them.
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As if you're any better. How many unsuspecting old couples have you robbed through your pyramid schemes?
I don't involve myself with pyramid schemes, ...only legitimate network mktg or affiliate mktg ventures.
I have never robbed anyone.
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you know what it really shows with all the black entertainment shows, radio, magazines, organizations etc....
yea your right blacks dont focus on race at all ::)
Blacks don't get to discuss race without being whiny, whites don't get to discuss it without being racist. :)
You really have to wonder why we've let this happen.
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The Billionaire Annenbergs... the single biggest annual contributors to the fund. It has helped to ease their conscience. I guess after centuries of buying & selling them, they felt it was time to help educate them.
But who's getting educated?!
I've NEVER met anyone who received anything from it.
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Sorry, man.
Black guys get followed.
A few months ago I was at Best Buy with the kids and not one person tried waiting on us. I got annoyed and told the oldest girl "I bet someone will come to help us if I pick up a computer". Their computers are tethered but within 10 seconds of picking one up someone came over to help, despite being ignored with three kids the whole time.
At least 5 people on this site have personally met me. They'll say I don't dress ghetto and am generally what would be considered well-educated.
Things are what things are. That's not the first time I've been followed and it won't be the last. The important thing is to not let situations or some random assclown be empowered to determine what kind of day you're going to have. :)
Yeah, I guess I don't get it. Been in Best Buy tons of times and nobody ever came up to offer me help. On occasion someone will offer unsolicited help.
Does my white privilege only work during certain times of the day?
Can you see why this sounds absurd to me?
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this is why you won't ever understand true racism......the fact of the matter is blacks who look like this DO suffer discrimination anyway......in housing, jobs, just getting a taxi....being stopped in stores.....look at Forrest Whitaker, a world famous actor being stopped on suspicion of shoplifting
I'm not saying racism is non-existent. I'm questioning this supposed white privilege.
I'm sure at some point, some called you the 'N' word, and not in brotherly fashion. I'm sure some ignorant prick judged you based solely on your skin color. But how that translates into me being privileged?
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Blacks don't get to discuss race without being whiny, whites don't get to discuss it without being racist. :)
You really have to wonder why we've let this happen.
yeah
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I was at Micro Center to buy a computer a few weeks ago and couldn't get any help for 20 minutes. I just needed someone to retrieve the one I wanted from the back room.
I'm white though, so I'm not sure what the problem was.
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Blacks don't get to discuss race without being whiny, whites don't get to discuss it without being racist. :)
You really have to wonder why we've let this happen.
LOL I have to agree but just so you know my post wasnt directed at blacks...
It was meant for all people, I do find it funny though that it was the blacks that responded....
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Andre is a twink - you should see my pm's
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you know what it really shows with all the black entertainment shows, radio, magazines, organizations etc....
yea your right blacks dont focus on race at all ::)
ha..you are so funny.....especially when you don't know what you are taking about.....name ONE black show on a major TV network.....its even worse for hispanics admittedly.....they are virtually non-existent in TV...
we focus on race as a topic..just as the Jews focus on their plight or on things related to the Holocaust....
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Andre is a twink - you should see my pm's
are you EVER going to add something substantive to conversations?
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are you EVER going to add something substantive to conversations?
Are you?
'+1', 'good post', and 'you're crazy' are hardly substantive.
How about you let you PIP and I know why it is that when we don't get service at the store, it's just bad service. But if a black person doesn't get service at the store, we have white privilege?
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ha..you are so funny.....especially when you don't know what you are taking about.....name ONE black show on a major TV network.....its even worse for hispanics admittedly.....they are virtually non-existent in TV...
we focus on race as a topic..just as the Jews focus on their plight or on things related to the Holocaust....
LOL first what constitutes a black show?
whats the difference between focusing on race as a topic and simply focusing on race?
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Are you?
'+1', 'good post', and 'you're crazy' are hardly substantive.
How about you let you PIP and I know why it is that when we don't get service at the store, it's just bad service. But if a black person doesn't get service at the store, we have white privilege?
defending 3333 again....you automatically lose
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defending 3333 again....you automatically lose
Damn, you're obsessing over this thread! ;D
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ha..you are so funny.....especially when you don't know what you are taking about.....name ONE black show on a major TV network.....its even worse for hispanics admittedly.....they are virtually non-existent in TV...
we focus on race as a topic..just as the Jews focus on their plight or on things related to the Holocaust....
Hasn't Tyler Perry all but taken over TBS?
;D
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Hasn't Tyler Perry all but taken over TBS?
;D
Tyler Perry's movies really suck
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Damn, you're obsessing over this thread! ;D
another loser
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defending 3333 again....you automatically lose
LOL - you dont even use your black privilege or AA loser
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Yeah, I guess I don't get it. Been in Best Buy tons of times and nobody ever came up to offer me help. On occasion someone will offer unsolicited help.
Does my white privilege only work during certain times of the day?
Can you see why this sounds absurd to me?
You're not supposed to "get it".
White professionals are supposed to go through life totally naive and pretend we all get treated exactly the same except for extreme circumstances. Black professionals have to naively believe reaching a certain status will mean they never have to deal with racism.
It's a game both sides play. :)
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You're not supposed to "get it".
White professionals are supposed to go through life totally naive and pretend we all get treated exactly the same except for extreme circumstances. Black professionals have to naively believe reaching a certain status will mean they never have to deal with racism.
It's a game both sides play. :)
Meh...2nd biggest conspiracy I've been accused of being part of (9/11's the biggest).
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You're not supposed to "get it".
White professionals are supposed to go through life totally naive and pretend we all get treated exactly the same except for extreme circumstances. Black professionals have to naively believe reaching a certain status will mean they never have to deal with racism.
It's a game both sides play. :)
Me thinks he needs a white bracelet. ;D
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Meh...2nd biggest conspiracy I've been accused of being part of (9/11's the biggest).
It isn't a conspiracy.
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Meh...2nd biggest conspiracy I've been accused of being part of (9/11's the biggest).
how's the story go with you being accused in the 9/11 conspiracy? I'd like to hear about that one.
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It isn't a conspiracy.
Sure seems to be.
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how's the story go with you being accused in the 9/11 conspiracy? I'd like to hear about that one.
Relayed the whole thing to you in your PM!
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Relayed the whole thing to you in your PM!
You know, if you would stop flying planes into buildings, people wouldn't connect you with it.
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You know, if you would stop flying planes into buildings, people wouldn't connect you with it.
:D
I would like to learn how to fly though. When I checked, it was just too expensive. Maybe after the kids move on with their lives.
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I'm not saying racism is non-existent. I'm questioning this supposed white privilege.
I'm sure at some point, some called you the 'N' word, and not in brotherly fashion. I'm sure some ignorant prick judged you based solely on your skin color. But how that translates into me being privileged?
Let me put it to you this way:
Say, you have two neighbors. One a black female, one a white female. They both want to be actresses.
Let's imagine you would rate them both about an 8 in terms of physical attractiveness and maybe about 7.5 in terms of talent. Attractive, but not breathtaking, skilled but not phenoms. Now, acting is a tough profession with a really low success rate, so either of these girls would be exceedingly lucky to make it in the biz. If you are being completely and totally honest with yourself, do you honestly not see how the
white actress has a distinct advantage in possibly becoming a Hollywood success story? The variety of roles available to the black actress will be a lot smaller and the quality of those roles will be inferior. Yes,
the white actress will have to work hard, but the potential returns for her are greater.
This is a simplification, but that's the essence of white privilege. It's not that all white people will inevitably be successful. Or that white people who have success don't work hard. Or that there is no way for blacks to be successful. Or that whites never have setbacks. It's just that by simply adding in that "white" factor, you gain a distinct advantage.
I used acting just because it was such an obvious example, but it's not hard to see how it pops up throughout other aspects of society.
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:D
I would like to learn how to fly though. When I checked, it was just too expensive. Maybe after the kids move on with their lives.
How much was they going to charge you? Here in South FL it is pretty affordable. (yeah... cheap ass terrorists had to come here to learn)
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:D
I would like to learn how to fly though. When I checked, it was just too expensive. Maybe after the kids move on with their lives.
I was looking into getting my helicopter pilots license.
It's about 8K when I looked. I was thinking of using a bonus on it.
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I was looking into getting my helicopter pilots license.
It's about 8K when I looked. I was thinking of using a bonus on it.
Woah Woah Woah.
Stop.
You have a job with a bonus?!
How is that possible? You're not 100% white. Did the white part of you earn the bonus, was it given to you because your "mixed", or did you earn that money because your employer thinks you deserve it regardless of your racial makeup?
(hint: it should be the last thing I said).
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Woah Woah Woah.
Stop.
You have a job with a bonus?!
How is that possible? You're not 100% white. Did the white part of you earn the bonus, was it given to you because your "mixed", or did you earn that money because your employer thinks you deserve it regardless of your racial makeup?
(hint: it should be the last thing I said).
It's definitely affirmative action bonus... No doubt.
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It's definitely affirmative action bonus... No doubt.
At least you're honest.
Vince thinks his husband Brad keeps giving him bonuses at the bee pollen factory because he's smart and hard working.
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At least you're honest.
Vince thinks his husband Brad keeps giving him bonuses at the bee pollen factory because he's smart and hard working.
Well, everyone has their skill set.
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Let me put it to you this way:
Say, you have two neighbors. One a black female, one a white female. They both want to be actresses.
Let's imagine you would rate them both about an 8 in terms of physical attractiveness and maybe about 7.5 in terms of talent. Attractive, but not breathtaking, skilled but not phenoms. Now, acting is a tough profession with a really low success rate, so either of these girls would be exceedingly lucky to make it in the biz. If you are being completely and totally honest with yourself, do you honestly not see how the
white actress has a distinct advantage in possibly becoming a Hollywood success story? The variety of roles available to the black actress will be a lot smaller and the quality of those roles will be inferior. Yes,
the white actress will have to work hard, but the potential returns for her are greater.
This is a simplification, but that's the essence of white privilege. It's not that all white people will inevitably be successful. Or that white people who have success don't work hard. Or that there is no way for blacks to be successful. Or that whites never have setbacks. It's just that by simply adding in that "white" factor, you gain a distinct advantage.
I used acting just because it was such an obvious example, but it's not hard to see how it pops up throughout other aspects of society.
That's awfully thin Al. IDK.
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How much was they going to charge you? Here in South FL it is pretty affordable. (yeah... cheap ass terrorists had to come here to learn)
It was about 10K or so for the Cessna or Piper. The school actually gives you 2 estimates. The first estimate is the FAA minimum. That cost is cheaper. Then they give you the average student, which is more expensive.
And it's fair to assume a douche like me would fall into the average student category.
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Let me put it to you this way:
Say, you have two neighbors. One a black female, one a white female. They both want to be actresses.
Let's imagine you would rate them both about an 8 in terms of physical attractiveness and maybe about 7.5 in terms of talent. Attractive, but not breathtaking, skilled but not phenoms. Now, acting is a tough profession with a really low success rate, so either of these girls would be exceedingly lucky to make it in the biz. If you are being completely and totally honest with yourself, do you honestly not see how the
white actress has a distinct advantage in possibly becoming a Hollywood success story? The variety of roles available to the black actress will be a lot smaller and the quality of those roles will be inferior. Yes,
the white actress will have to work hard, but the potential returns for her are greater.
This is a simplification, but that's the essence of white privilege. It's not that all white people will inevitably be successful. Or that white people who have success don't work hard. Or that there is no way for blacks to be successful. Or that whites never have setbacks. It's just that by simply adding in that "white" factor, you gain a distinct advantage.
I used acting just because it was such an obvious example, but it's not hard to see how it pops up throughout other aspects of society.
good post..simple and easy to understand...good job
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That's awfully thin Al. IDK.
What's thin about it? I used a pretty transparent example for the sake of discussion.
Do you honestly think that being black isn't an obstacle while trying to make it as an actor or actress in Hollywood?
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What's thin about it? I used a pretty transparent example for the sake of discussion.
Do you honestly think that being black isn't an obstacle while trying to make it as an actor or actress in Hollywood?
Being black in America is an obstacle in anything except if you want to go to the NBA
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Being black in America is an obstacle in anything except if you want to go to the NBA
FAIL
You to the welfare office you get top billin
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Being black in America is an obstacle in anything except if you want to go to the NBA
Haha, that's not 100% accurate, but it's pretty close. The reason I used the actress example is because when speaking honestly, there's no way to deny it's true.It's easy to say "I'm white and I've had bad experiences at Best Buy. There's no white privilege," but there's really no way to honestly say that an actor has the deck stacked way more in his or her favor simply by being white as opposed to black, asian, spanish, etc.
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FAIL
You to the welfare office you get top billin
Yeah, you live in the ghetto, so you'd know better than anyone. ::)
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Haha, that's not 100% accurate, but it's pretty close. The reason I used the actress example is because when speaking honestly, there's no way to deny it's true.It's easy to say "I'm white and I've had bad experiences at Best Buy. There's no white privilege," but there's really no way to honestly say that an actor has the deck stacked way more in his or her favor simply by being white as opposed to black, asian, spanish, etc.
Andre just needs to stop making excuses and actually be prepared for a real 8 hour workday. Fuck if andre can do a 2 hour work day it would be a biblical miracle.
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Yeah, you live in the ghetto, so you'd know better than anyone. ::)
Yup - never a penny of welfare EBT UE SSDI anything ever.
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Andre just needs to stop making excuses and actually be prepared for a real 8 hour workday. Fuck if andre can do a 2 hour work day it would be a biblical miracle.
He should use your M.O., stretch a 2-hour work day into a 22-hour work day by spending 20 hours trolling Getbig, Free Republic, HuffPost and Business Insider.
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Let me put it to you this way:
Say, you have two neighbors. One a black female, one a white female. They both want to be actresses.
Let's imagine you would rate them both about an 8 in terms of physical attractiveness and maybe about 7.5 in terms of talent. Attractive, but not breathtaking, skilled but not phenoms. Now, acting is a tough profession with a really low success rate, so either of these girls would be exceedingly lucky to make it in the biz. If you are being completely and totally honest with yourself, do you honestly not see how the
white actress has a distinct advantage in possibly becoming a Hollywood success story? The variety of roles available to the black actress will be a lot smaller and the quality of those roles will be inferior. Yes,
the white actress will have to work hard, but the potential returns for her are greater.
This is a simplification, but that's the essence of white privilege. It's not that all white people will inevitably be successful. Or that white people who have success don't work hard. Or that there is no way for blacks to be successful. Or that whites never have setbacks. It's just that by simply adding in that "white" factor, you gain a distinct advantage.
I used acting just because it was such an obvious example, but it's not hard to see how it pops up throughout other aspects of society.
BINGO!!! I can tell you from personal experience that there are at least 30 - 40 auditions available for white actresses, for every 1 audition available to a Black actress. That is a pure fact. The ratio may even be 50:1
There are other considerations as well... such as casting into the prejudices of the intended audience. Many times skilled & qualified Black actors are not cast because producers fear a backlash from an audience with preconceived notions. Casting a Black person as an authority figure is disturbing to a certain demographic, and producers, and sponsors fear this. As a result, many talented actors are not cast.
Three real life examples:
1) My friend was directing an MOW starring 2 actors who shall remain nameless but are household names There was an incidental wedding scene involving the sister of the female lead. my friend wanted to cast a Black actor as the groom. The studio went absolutely apeshit because it was to air in middle America. Final result, they couldn't recast the stars sister as Black because the star was not. They couldn't find a suitable white groom, ...so they simply cut the lines of the groom, and cast a white film extra instead.
2) I had auditioned for an industrial. They had storyboarded it to be a romantic thing. They selected the best actress, and the best actor. The problem was the best actress who auditioned was me. The best actor who auditioned was a white guy, and even though it was an industrial, ...the client (a government agency) refused to cast an interracial couple. Their solution... they kept us both, ...but re-wrote the script we were to use and removed the romantic angle. It was very successful, so successful infact, that rather than simply using it as the internal industrial teaching tool for their employees, ...they re-purposed it and sold it to the general public as well. This only happened because the producer stood her ground, and refused to get rid of me. She liked me because I reminded her of a woman who had been so nice to her when she was interning at her Mom's workplace during the summers when she was at college. During our 6 or 7th session in the studio... we both discovered why I reminded her so much of the nice lady who took her under her wing... turns out that nice lady was my sister. She had no idea who I was when she first cast me because my sister and I have different last names. We only found out when she accidentally called me by my sister's name. She looked mortified. I laughed and said don't worry about it, that's my sister's name and my Mom mixes it up all the time, sometimes calls her Judi, so I'm used to answering to _____. She apologized and said I reminded her so much of a woman named _____ who she knew when she was interning at _____. That's when we made the connection. I knew there couldn't possibly be two people named with the same first & last name who worked at that particular place. Here's where the white priviledge comes in... if they can't go interacial... they will take a 2nd rate white person over going all Black.
3) Star Trek originally cast the role of the 2nd in command as a woman. The test audiences went apeshit saying "Who does that woman think she is ordering a man around like that" They recast the 2nd in command as an alien named Mr Spock. Audiences would have rather seen a space alien, and were more willing to view a space alien as having authority over them, than they were to accept the notion of a woman having authority over them.
Back in 2001 the CRTC here in Canada issued a directive to advertisers that all commercials MUST reflect a true representation of the demographics within the country. That's when we started seeing commercials with leads that reflected the various ethnicities present within this country.
Another true story... a couple of friends of mine both Black film makers, each had film at Cannes Film Festival in 1996. I think it was 1996... anyway, both films were critically acclaimed, but rather curious were the words of many of the other film makers, reporters & critics who covered Cannes that year... "We didn't even know that Canada had Blacks". ::) ::)
You may say that was ages ago... things are different now... but I have to argue they really aren't all that different. Yeah... you have a Black President, but look at all the brainwashing Hollywood had to do with "24" to even get people in the frame of mind to even consider it.
And my final punctuation mark on the matter... how many of you recalled the initial reaction when it was first announced that Barack Obama was the candidate being put forth by the Democrats? How many people said "He couldn't possibly win because he was Black"... that attitude in itself whether it proved to be true or not ...right there is an example of white priviledge.
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So artsy fartsy libs are racist?
BINGO!!! I can tell you from personal experience that there are at least 30 - 40 auditions available for white actresses, for every 1 audition available to a Black actress. That is a pure fact. The ratio may even be 50:1
There are other considerations as well... such as casting into the prejudices of the intended audience. Many times skilled & qualified Black actors are not cast because producers fear a backlash from an audience with preconceived notions. Casting a Black person as an authority figure is disturbing to a certain demographic, and producers, and sponsors fear this. As a result, many talented actors are not cast.
Three real life examples:
1) My friend was directing an MOW starring 2 actors who shall remain nameless but are household names There was an incidental wedding scene involving the sister of the female lead. my friend wanted to cast a Black actor as the groom. The studio went absolutely apeshit because it was to air in middle America. Final result, they couldn't recast the stars sister as Black because the star was not. They couldn't find a suitable white groom, ...so they simply cut the lines of the groom, and cast a white film extra instead.
2) I had auditioned for an industrial. They had storyboarded it to be a romantic thing. They selected the best actress, and the best actor. The problem was the best actress who auditioned was me. The best actor who auditioned was a white guy, and even though it was an industrial, ...the client (a government agency) refused to cast an interracial couple. Their solution... they kept us both, ...but re-wrote the script we were to use and removed the romantic angle. It was very successful, so successful infact, that rather than simply using it as the internal industrial teaching tool for their employees, ...they re-purposed it and sold it to the general public as well. This only happened because the producer stood her ground, and refused to get rid of me. She liked me because I reminded her of a woman who had been so nice to her when she was interning at her Mom's workplace during the summers when she was at college. During our 6 or 7th session in the studio... we both discovered why I reminded her so much of the nice lady who took her under her wing... turns out that nice lady was my sister. She had no idea who I was when she first cast me because my sister and I have different last names. We only found out when she accidentally called me by my sister's name. She looked mortified. I laughed and said don't worry about it, that's my sister's name and my Mom mixes it up all the time, sometimes calls her Judi, so I'm used to answering to _____. She apologized and said I reminded her so much of a woman named _____ who she knew when she was interning at _____. That's when we made the connection. I knew there couldn't possibly be two people named with the same first & last name who worked at that particular place. Here's where the white priviledge comes in... if they can't go interacial... they will take a 2nd rate white person over going all Black.
3) Star Trek recast the role of the 2nd in command as a woman. The test audiences went apeshit saying "Who does that woman think she is ordering a man around like that" They recast the 2nd in command as an alien named Mr Spock. Audiences would have rather seen a space alien, and were more willing to view a space alien as having authority over them, than they were to accept the notion of a woman having authority over them.
Back in 2001 the CRTC here in Canada issued a directive to advertisers that all commercials MUST reflect a true representation of the demographics within the country. That's when we started seeing commercials with leads that reflected the various ethnicities present within this country.
Another true story... a couple of friends of mine both Black film makers, each had film at Cannes Film Festival in 1996. I think it was 1996... anyway, both films were critically acclaimed, but rather curious were the words of many of the other film makers, reporters & critics who covered Cannes that year... "We didn't even know that Canada had Blacks". ::) ::)
You may say that was ages ago... things are different now... but I have to argue they really aren't all that different. Yeah... you have a Black President, but look at all the brainwashing Hollywood had to do with "24" to even get people in the frame of mind to even consider it.
And my final punctuation mark on the matter... how many of you recalled the initial reaction when it was first announced that Barack Obama was the candidate being put forth by the Democrats? How many people said "He couldn't possibly win because he was Black"... that attitude in itself whether it proved to be true or not ...right there is an example of white priviledge.
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So artsy fartsy libs are racist?
I'm saying white skin privilege exists across the board and bleeds into every area of life.
If you take a portrait of a Black man, and lighten it so he appears white, ...and ask a group of 100 people which pilot they would feel safer with piloting their plane, ...or which surgeon they would feel safer with conducting their operation, ...or which guy they think committed the crime, ...you will understand the nature of white skin privilege.
For a longer more in depth talk on this... for those with the guts to see it:
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BINGO!!! I can tell you from personal experience that there are at least 30 - 40 auditions available for white actresses, for every 1 audition available to a Black actress. That is a pure fact. The ratio may even be 50:1
There are other considerations as well... such as casting into the prejudices of the intended audience. Many times skilled & qualified Black actors are not cast because producers fear a backlash from an audience with preconceived notions. Casting a Black person as an authority figure is disturbing to a certain demographic, and producers, and sponsors fear this. As a result, many talented actors are not cast.
Three real life examples:
1) My friend was directing an MOW starring 2 actors who shall remain nameless but are household names There was an incidental wedding scene involving the sister of the female lead. my friend wanted to cast a Black actor as the groom. The studio went absolutely apeshit because it was to air in middle America. Final result, they couldn't recast the stars sister as Black because the star was not. They couldn't find a suitable white groom, ...so they simply cut the lines of the groom, and cast a white film extra instead.
2) I had auditioned for an industrial. They had storyboarded it to be a romantic thing. They selected the best actress, and the best actor. The problem was the best actress who auditioned was me. The best actor who auditioned was a white guy, and even though it was an industrial, ...the client (a government agency) refused to cast an interracial couple. Their solution... they kept us both, ...but re-wrote the script we were to use and removed the romantic angle. It was very successful, so successful infact, that rather than simply using it as the internal industrial teaching tool for their employees, ...they re-purposed it and sold it to the general public as well. This only happened because the producer stood her ground, and refused to get rid of me. She liked me because I reminded her of a woman who had been so nice to her when she was interning at her Mom's workplace during the summers when she was at college. During our 6 or 7th session in the studio... we both discovered why I reminded her so much of the nice lady who took her under her wing... turns out that nice lady was my sister. She had no idea who I was when she first cast me because my sister and I have different last names. We only found out when she accidentally called me by my sister's name. She looked mortified. I laughed and said don't worry about it, that's my sister's name and my Mom mixes it up all the time, sometimes calls her Judi, so I'm used to answering to _____. She apologized and said I reminded her so much of a woman named _____ who she knew when she was interning at _____. That's when we made the connection. I knew there couldn't possibly be two people named with the same first & last name who worked at that particular place. Here's where the white priviledge comes in... if they can't go interacial... they will take a 2nd rate white person over going all Black.
3) Star Trek originally cast the role of the 2nd in command as a woman. The test audiences went apeshit saying "Who does that woman think she is ordering a man around like that" They recast the 2nd in command as an alien named Mr Spock. Audiences would have rather seen a space alien, and were more willing to view a space alien as having authority over them, than they were to accept the notion of a woman having authority over them.
Back in 2001 the CRTC here in Canada issued a directive to advertisers that all commercials MUST reflect a true representation of the demographics within the country. That's when we started seeing commercials with leads that reflected the various ethnicities present within this country.
Another true story... a couple of friends of mine both Black film makers, each had film at Cannes Film Festival in 1996. I think it was 1996... anyway, both films were critically acclaimed, but rather curious were the words of many of the other film makers, reporters & critics who covered Cannes that year... "We didn't even know that Canada had Blacks". ::) ::)
You may say that was ages ago... things are different now... but I have to argue they really aren't all that different. Yeah... you have a Black President, but look at all the brainwashing Hollywood had to do with "24" to even get people in the frame of mind to even consider it.
And my final punctuation mark on the matter... how many of you recalled the initial reaction when it was first announced that Barack Obama was the candidate being put forth by the Democrats? How many people said "He couldn't possibly win because he was Black"... that attitude in itself whether it proved to be true or not ...right there is an example of white priviledge.
Sounds like an awfully long winded excuse for you being ugly and untalented.
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Haha, that's not 100% accurate, but it's pretty close. The reason I used the actress example is because when speaking honestly, there's no way to deny it's true.It's easy to say "I'm white and I've had bad experiences at Best Buy. There's no white privilege," but there's really no way to honestly say that an actor has the deck stacked way more in his or her favor simply by being white as opposed to black, asian, spanish, etc.
Could it be that you were treated differently because you had half a rack of dvd's stuffed into your trenchcoat on a 90 degree day?
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"It is an open ended question whether we will choose to use unearned advantage to weaken hidden systems of advantage and whether we will use any of our arbitrarily awarded power to reconstruct power systems on a broader base."
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Sounds like an awfully long winded excuse for you being ugly and untalented.
Me being ugly & untalented is why the studio balked at casting a Black groom for a white actress?
Me being ugly & untalented is why a white woman was recast as an alien male?
Me being ugly & untalented was why I got the part and why the producer refused to recast my role?
Yeah right! the lack of availability of roles was however part of why I chose to become an agent.
I may not have been able to work everyday, ...but I could put 20 - 30 actors to work every day and get 15% of their gross. I preferred the leverage :D
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FAIL
You to the welfare office you get top billin
I guess thats why there are more whites on welfare in sheer numbers than blacks huh>?
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Andre just needs to stop making excuses and actually be prepared for a real 8 hour workday. Fuck if andre can do a 2 hour work day it would be a biblical miracle.
no excuses being made at all....thats the problem...guys like you consider talking about the reality of discrimination as "making excuses"
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Me being ugly & untalented is why the studio balked at casting a Black groom for a white actress?
Me being ugly & untalented is why a white woman was recast as an alien male?
Me being ugly & untalented was why I got the part and why the producer refused to recast my role?
Yeah right! the lack of availability of roles was however part of why I chose to become an agent.
I may not have been able to work everyday, ...but I could put 20 - 30 actors to work every day and get 15% of their gross. I preferred the leverage :D
Well, at least you have the courage to admit these things. That's the first step in making meaningful progress toward coming to grips with reality.
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Well, at least you have the courage to admit these things. That's the first step in making meaningful progress toward coming to grips with reality.
Too bad the same could not be said of you. Despite you starting this thread, ...you still appear to be unwilling to even acknowledge it's existence, ...not only ignoring it, ...but flat out denying it.
In a few years... how many... I don't know... you will be saying "I never knew how good I had it til it was gone"
To which others will reply... "Bullshit! You knew... you just never thought you'd lose it!"
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On the political right in America, honest is treasonous.
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On the political right in America, honest is treasonous.
so true...good point...I often wonder what dreamworld they are living in
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Me being ugly & untalented is why the studio balked at casting a Black groom for a white actress?
Me being ugly & untalented is why a white woman was recast as an alien male?
Me being ugly & untalented was why I got the part and why the producer refused to recast my role?
Yeah right! the lack of availability of roles was however part of why I chose to become an agent.
I may not have been able to work everyday, ...but I could put 20 - 30 actors to work every day and get 15% of their gross. I preferred the leverage :D
you realize you are arguing with McWay's gimmick, right?
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On the political right in America, honest is treasonous.
When has the left ever been honest, nitwit?
The stupid left has been delusional, but never honest.
There is no one more racist than a liberal moron. NO ONE.
Dr. Ben Carson: White liberals ‘the most racist’
The conservative rising star Dr. Ben Carson said on a Tuesday talk show that critics won’t shut him up and that among the most vicious of his attackers were white liberals.
He made the comments on Mark Levin’s radio show during a discussion of his opposition to same-sex marriage.
“They need to shut me up, they need to get rid of me,” Dr. Carson said, as reported in Newsmax. “They can’t find anything else to delegitimize me so they take my words, misinterpret them and try to make it seem that I’m a bigot.”
Mr. Levin asked: And what about white liberals — how do they treat you?
“They’re the most racist people there are because they put you in a little category, a box,” Dr. Carson said. “How could you dare come off the plantation?”
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/3/dr-ben-carson-white-liberals-most-racist/#ixzz2QXG6PcHl
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you realize you are arguing with McWay's gimmick, right?
24KT is MY gimmmick? Ummmmm....NO!!
I posted under one name and one name only, on this forum....the same one I've had here for nearly ten years.
On the political right in America, honest is treasonous.
Hardly!! That would fall on the political left, which includes a healthy dose of political correctness, as in using euphemisms to sugarcoat the truth.
For example, why is it that the left is only interested in gun control when white people shoot folks.
Black-on-black crime is at epidemic proportions in cities like Chicago. Yet, the lefty activists, especially the black ones, are all but MUTE!! WHY?
Because libs can't push their agenda with negroes killing negroes.
Or, there's the left's ultimate treehugger, Al Gore. He yaps about how EEEEEEVVVIIILLLL big oil is....until he needs someone on whom to unload his failing TV network. Did I also mention he's one of those, advocating higher taxes for the rich but tried to unload Current TV to Al Jazeera BEFORE Obama's tax hikes hit?
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24KT is MY gimmmick? Ummmmm....NO!!
I posted under one name and one name only, on this forum....the same one I've had here for nearly ten years.
He's saying that Mr Whorewell is your gimmick. The consistently and significantly different grammars and patterns of thought utilized by you and Mr Whorewell render this claim absurd, of course, but it's what he's asserting all the same.
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He's saying that Mr Whorewell is your gimmick. The consistently and significantly different grammars and patterns of thought utilized by you and Mr Whorewell render this claim absurd, of course, but it's what he's asserting all the same.
In that case, it's STRIKE TWO for Andre.
Claiming that somebody is using another person's screename on GetBig is as common as insulting someone here by calling him gay.
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In that case, it's STRIKE TWO for Andre.
Claiming that somebody is using another person's screename on GetBig is as common as insulting someone here by calling him gay.
Andreisatwink always has an excuse for his failures in life.
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So when Europeans started sailing the oceans, and inventing the modern world that we all enjoy... Was white privilege a factor?
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Me being ugly & untalented is why the studio balked at casting a Black groom for a white actress?
Me being ugly & untalented is why a white woman was recast as an alien male?
Me being ugly & untalented was why I got the part and why the producer refused to recast my role?
Yeah right! the lack of availability of roles was however part of why I chose to become an agent.
I may not have been able to work everyday, ...but I could put 20 - 30 actors to work every day and get 15% of their gross. I preferred the leverage :D
You have a lazy eye and are, for the most part, an unattractive woman. If your attitude then was anything like it is now, then I wouldn't cast you, either, as you're a complete c*nt and a scumbag, to boot.
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He's saying that Mr Whorewell is your gimmick. The consistently and significantly different grammars and patterns of thought utilized by you and Mr Whorewell render this claim absurd, of course, but it's what he's asserting all the same.
LOL
;D
Notwithstanding the fact that we tend to agree on a lot, you couldn't find two board members that were more different if you tried.
Accusing someone of being a gimmick= The last refuge of a thoroughly defeated liberal who has run out of stupid arguments.
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FAIL
You to the welfare office you get top billin
;D
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On the political right in America, honest is treasonous.
Yup even among their own. Look at Ron Paul. They fucked him at the convention.
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What's thin about it? I used a pretty transparent example for the sake of discussion.
Do you honestly think that being black isn't an obstacle while trying to make it as an actor or actress in Hollywood?
Because you're using a probability to claim white privilege. If there's one acting spot open and a majority of the applicants are white, might just go that way.
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Being black in America is an obstacle in anything except if you want to go to the NBA
So what is your solution then?
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Because you're using a probability to claim white privilege. If there's one acting spot open and a majority of the applicants are white, might just go that way.
But the majority of speaking roles in mainstream productions are written for whites and often specify white in their casting calls. It has nothing to do with the amount of whites vs. other races who show up for auditions. In most cases, non-white actors never even get as far as the audition.
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24KT is MY gimmmick? Ummmmm....NO!!
I posted under one name and one name only, on this forum....the same one I've had here for nearly ten years.
Hardly!! That would fall on the political left, which includes a healthy dose of political correctness, as in using euphemisms to sugarcoat the truth.
For example, why is it that the left is only interested in gun control when white people shoot folks.
Black-on-black crime is at epidemic proportions in cities like Chicago. Yet, the lefty activists, especially the black ones, are all but MUTE!! WHY?
Because libs can't push their agenda with negroes killing negroes.
Or, there's the left's ultimate treehugger, Al Gore. He yaps about how EEEEEEVVVIIILLLL big oil is....until he needs someone on whom to unload his failing TV network. Did I also mention he's one of those, advocating higher taxes for the rich but tried to unload Current TV to Al Jazeera BEFORE Obama's tax hikes hit?
actually I was telling 24K that SHE is arguing with McWays gimmick (whorewell)
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Andreisatwink always has an excuse for his failures in life.
says the failure with over 100, 000 posts on Getbig.....only a total loser with nothing to do would have that many posts....no one with a job could average 35 posts per day like you do
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You have a lazy eye and are, for the most part, an unattractive woman. If your attitude then was anything like it is now, then I wouldn't cast you, either, as you're a complete c*nt and a scumbag, to boot.
wow..horseface is calling someone unattractive
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In that case, it's STRIKE TWO for Andre.
Claiming that somebody is using another person's screename on GetBig is as common as insulting someone here by calling him gay.
it was a joke..you guys are REALLY taking this shit WAY too serious
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So what is your solution then?
there is no solution....but this is why a lot of blacks go into sports...because they know in sports they will get a fair shot....its always obvious in sports who can play and who cannot....so its almost impossible to discriminate because the fans and sportswriters would not tolerate a person playing before someone else due to just the color of skin...
but corporate America is not televised so no one can really see how blacks and women get treated
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there is no solution....but this is why a lot of blacks go into sports...because they know in sports they will get a fair shot....its always obvious in sports who can play and who cannot....so its almost impossible to discriminate because the fans and sportswriters would not tolerate a person playing before someone else due to just the color of skin...
but corporate America is not televised so no one can really see how blacks and women get treated
There are plenty of excellent white basketball players that were overlooked simply because they were white.
Take the best white basketball players in the world, train them with a white coach, and put them against the best black players in the world with a black coach and I guarantee the white team will win.
Blacks in the USA have been babied and lulled into a sense that they are better at certain sports. This has been done to elevate blacks and demoralize whites. Whites are stronger than blacks in general.
Jews want to paint a different picture:
http://racerules.wordpress.com/2011/12/25/the-complete-infestation-of-jewish-nba-owners/ (http://racerules.wordpress.com/2011/12/25/the-complete-infestation-of-jewish-nba-owners/)
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There are plenty of excellent white basketball players that were overlooked simply because they were white.
Take the best white basketball players in the world, train them with a white coach, and put them against the best black players in the world with a black coach and I guarantee the white team will win.
Blacks in the USA have been babied and lulled into a sense that they are better at certain sports. This has been done to elevate blacks and demoralize whites. Whites are stronger than blacks in general.
Jews want to paint a different picture:
http://racerules.wordpress.com/2011/12/25/the-complete-infestation-of-jewish-nba-owners/ (http://racerules.wordpress.com/2011/12/25/the-complete-infestation-of-jewish-nba-owners/)
Hahahahahhahaha This has got to be one of the most blatently stupid assinine, ignorant ass comments I have ever seen on these board, ...and I've seen quite a few.
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There are plenty of excellent white basketball players that were overlooked simply because they were white.
Take the best white basketball players in the world, train them with a white coach, and put them against the best black players in the world with a black coach and I guarantee the white team will win.
Blacks in the USA have been babied and lulled into a sense that they are better at certain sports. This has been done to elevate blacks and demoralize whites. Whites are stronger than blacks in general.
Jews want to paint a different picture:
http://racerules.wordpress.com/2011/12/25/the-complete-infestation-of-jewish-nba-owners/ (http://racerules.wordpress.com/2011/12/25/the-complete-infestation-of-jewish-nba-owners/)
WTF....
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there is no solution....but this is why a lot of blacks go into sports...because they know in sports they will get a fair shot....its always obvious in sports who can play and who cannot....so its almost impossible to discriminate because the fans and sportswriters would not tolerate a person playing before someone else due to just the color of skin...
but corporate America is not televised so no one can really see how blacks and women get treated
::) ::) Ypu show up to my office asking for a job smelling like booze, w wearing a hoodie, pants around your ass, terrible credit, criminal record, etc and what do you think is going to happen?
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Hahahahahhahaha This has got to be one of the most blatently stupid assinine, ignorant ass comments I have ever seen on these board, ...and I've seen quite a few.
They barely won against Spain and Lithuania. And the USA has much better training and coaching.
http://www.usabasketball.com/mens/national/12_moly_game_04_stats.html (http://www.usabasketball.com/mens/national/12_moly_game_04_stats.html)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/04/usa-basketball-lithuania-lebron-james_n_1741441.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/04/usa-basketball-lithuania-lebron-james_n_1741441.html)
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/london/basketball/story/2012-08-12/usa-gold-medal-game-spain/57009558/1 (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/london/basketball/story/2012-08-12/usa-gold-medal-game-spain/57009558/1)
http://www.sportressofblogitude.com/2010/03/24/white-basketball-players-in-ncaa-tournament-victims-of-discrimination/ (http://www.sportressofblogitude.com/2010/03/24/white-basketball-players-in-ncaa-tournament-victims-of-discrimination/)
Not Basketball but Football:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/24/doug-williams-speaks-out-about-reverse-racism-in-sports/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/24/doug-williams-speaks-out-about-reverse-racism-in-sports/)
We all know there is racism going on against White Players. Whites are the strongest as proven by the World's Strongest Man Competitions.
Look how well whites perform in Rugby. Americans have been conditioned to believe blacks are better at certain sports.
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WTF....
Rugby >>> American football times 1000. Football is stop and go. They stand around more than they play. And football was derived from Rugby but is inferior.
Some excellent white athletes showing how to play a team sport:
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there is no solution....but this is why a lot of blacks go into sports...because they know in sports they will get a fair shot....its always obvious in sports who can play and who cannot....so its almost impossible to discriminate because the fans and sportswriters would not tolerate a person playing before someone else due to just the color of skin...
but corporate America is not televised so no one can really see how blacks and women get treated
LMFAO wow, just fuking wow
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Hahahahahhahaha This has got to be one of the most blatently stupid assinine, ignorant ass comments I have ever seen on these board, ...and I've seen quite a few.
Oh, and if I want your opinion I will beat it out of you you fucking bitch!
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But the majority of speaking roles in mainstream productions are written for whites and often specify white in their casting calls. It has nothing to do with the amount of whites vs. other races who show up for auditions. In most cases, non-white actors never even get as far as the audition.
You'll need to back that up with some proof. For certain roles like Lincoln, of course that's the case. For completely fictional roles, that wouldn't be white privilege, it would be flat out discrimination and racism. And without proof, I don't buy that claim for a minute.
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They barely won against Spain and Lithuania. And the USA has much better training and coaching.
http://www.usabasketball.com/mens/national/12_moly_game_04_stats.html (http://www.usabasketball.com/mens/national/12_moly_game_04_stats.html)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/04/usa-basketball-lithuania-lebron-james_n_1741441.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/04/usa-basketball-lithuania-lebron-james_n_1741441.html)
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/london/basketball/story/2012-08-12/usa-gold-medal-game-spain/57009558/1 (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/london/basketball/story/2012-08-12/usa-gold-medal-game-spain/57009558/1)
http://www.sportressofblogitude.com/2010/03/24/white-basketball-players-in-ncaa-tournament-victims-of-discrimination/ (http://www.sportressofblogitude.com/2010/03/24/white-basketball-players-in-ncaa-tournament-victims-of-discrimination/)
Not Basketball but Football:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/24/doug-williams-speaks-out-about-reverse-racism-in-sports/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/24/doug-williams-speaks-out-about-reverse-racism-in-sports/)
We all know there is racism going on against White Players. Whites are the strongest as proven by the World's Strongest Man Competitions.
Look how well whites perform in Rugby. Americans have been conditioned to believe blacks are better at certain sports.
And stupid ass drunks are far better at playing Russian Roulette than I am, because they have far more practice at it. what's your point? no offense to Russians, ...but that is a stupid ass game. maybe quadzilla should try it. :-\
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You'll need to back that up with some proof. For certain roles like Lincoln, of course that's the case. For completely fictional roles, that wouldn't be white privilege, it would be flat out discrimination and racism. And without proof, I don't buy that claim for a minute.
Skip... that's the point. Flat out discrimination and racism (conscious or not) does lead to those NOT being discriminated against getting a privilege and an upper hand.
I may not be your favourite poster, but please trust me on this one. He speaks the truth.
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there is no solution....but this is why a lot of blacks go into sports...because they know in sports they will get a fair shot....its always obvious in sports who can play and who cannot....so its almost impossible to discriminate because the fans and sportswriters would not tolerate a person playing before someone else due to just the color of skin...
but corporate America is not televised so no one can really see how blacks and women get treated
I would argue that it's obvious in most jobs who can and who can't perform and I can tell you that I've seen plenty of non-performing whites get their walking papers.
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Even worse ... within the film industry, and due to the exigencies and particular needs of the industry, it is exempt from much legislation barring discrimination on the basic of sex, age, race etc., for very legitimate reasons, ...and sadly, this much needed exemption can, and is often exploited for reasons completely different from the reasons the legislation was put in place to begin with. It sucks for some, is an unearned benefit and privilege for others. It is what it is.
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I would argue that it's obvious in most jobs who can and who can't perform and I can tell you that I've seen plenty of non-performing whites get their walking papers.
That's because privilege can sometimes only go so far. :D
out of curiosity, ...when these non-performing whites are handed walking papers and replaced, ...who are they replaced with?
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That's because privilege can sometimes only go so far. :D
out of curiosity, ...when these non-performing whites are handed walking papers and replaced, ...who are they replaced with?
one of the 90% of applicants who were what?
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Skip... that's the point. Flat out discrimination and racism (conscious or not) does lead to those NOT being discriminated against getting a privilege and an upper hand.
I may not be your favourite poster, but please trust me on this one. He speaks the truth.
What you're effectively trying to argue is that studios OPENLY have a 'whites only' sign for completely fictional roles where the race of the individual does not matter. Not buying it without proof.
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That's because privilege can sometimes only go so far. :D
out of curiosity, ...when these non-performing whites are handed walking papers and replaced, ...who are they replaced with?
I've never kept track. I was thinking along the lines of some of the more notable fuckups that I remember getting fired. And I can remember several that were replaced with a white person. I can tell you the last one was replaced with an Asian male.
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The basketball thing was just, plain funny.
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What you're effectively trying to argue is that studios OPENLY have a 'whites only' sign for completely fictional roles where the race of the individual does not matter. Not buying it without proof.
Don't take my word for it... ask George Lucas.
It is not an OPENLY 'whites only' sign, ...but it is a LEGAL 'whites only' sign.
Mind you, it is not always intentional, but it can & often is effectively that.
Many who are unintentionally guilty of it have become more aware of what they were doing, and have been pro-active in trying to stop the practice. But it DOES occur far too frequently.
I can't tell you how many times I've gotten last minute auditions where it's "Can you get to the studio in an hour" or panicked calls from casting directors going "Oh shit, we forgot to include ethnics... how many Black / Chinese / Indian actors can you send to the studio within the next hour?" So we end up with Black women auditioning to play the biological Mothers in commercial, with no Black kids to audition with.
Alot of "minority" actors get pissed off when this occurs, when they are called in to audition to play the role of a parent to a child that has clearly already been chosen, ...but I never let it get to me. I just used it as an opportunity to shine. Most professional actors know their future jobs come from past auditions, ...and rarely from the ones they do today. Turn lemons into lemonade.
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It's a tricky situation, because due to the exigencies of story telling in 22 minutes, ...one has to convey the message instantaneously. There is very little time for character development so producers, directors, casting personnel, even actors rely on stereotypes and caricatures. These get embedded within the subconscious not only of the audiences who watch, ...but also the very people all throughout "the creative process"
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After reviewing this thread, it is apparent that the"white privilege" boogeyman amounts to nothing more than a lack of perseverance exhibited by low achieving blacks.
If the losers in this thread spent half as much time doing something productive with their lives instead of bitching about how white people get all of the good acting jobs or how white people get along with the staff of best buy because of their race, the fantasy of "white privilege" would immediately disappear into obscurity.
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You'll need to back that up with some proof. For certain roles like Lincoln, of course that's the case. For completely fictional roles, that wouldn't be white privilege, it would be flat out discrimination and racism. And without proof, I don't buy that claim for a minute.
What kind of proof would you need? And why do you think it's limited to roles like Lincoln? Why don't you think it extends to roles like Harry Potter and Tony Stark and Thor and any of the Avengers and the Twilight vampires or James Bond? The most successful movie currently in the top ten is "Oz:Great and Powerful". There were racial minorities in the film(in minor roles), but considering the story was inspired by preexisting material and featured preexisting characters, I doubt any black actresses were auditioned for any of the female leads (all played by white actresses). I don't know if you watch Game of Thrones, but it's an immensely popular show filmed on an epic scale and it is not cast colorblind.
Another HBO show, "Girls", has received a lot of criticism because it takes place in an area of New York in which the population is less than 30% white, yet during the first season, virtually every role on the show was played by a white person. The show's star/creator (who is white) has been very publicly contrite and that might account for some of the unusually open reflections she's had about the racial make up of the show:
I wrote the first season primarily by myself, and I co-wrote a few episodes. But I am a half-Jew, half-WASP, and I wrote two Jews and two WASPs. Something I wanted to avoid was tokenism in casting. If I had one of the four girls, if, for example, she was African-American, I feel like — not that the experience of an African-American girl and a white girl are drastically different, but there has to be specificity to that experience [that] I wasn’t able to speak to.
I can go on and on anecdotally, but I'm curious about what you would consider proof.
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I would argue that it's obvious in most jobs who can and who can't perform and I can tell you that I've seen plenty of non-performing whites get their walking papers.
Whether it's obvious or not, if you start out with certain advantages (money, connections,race), it's way easier to fail upwards. I think this is one of the reasons a lot of non-minorities are so vehemently opposed to even considering the idea of privilege- whether it be male, white or whatever. People feel better about their success when they believe they're participating in a meritocracy, and that's rarely the case.
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Don't take my word for it... ask George Lucas.
It is not an OPENLY 'whites only' sign, ...but it is a LEGAL 'whites only' sign.
Mind you, it is not always intentional, but it can & often is effectively that.
This is actually a great point that I was trying to emphasize with the "actresses" example.
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Whether it's obvious or not, if you start out with certain advantages (money, connections,race), it's way easier to fail upwards. I think this is one of the reasons a lot of non-minorities are so vehemently opposed to even considering the idea of privilege- whether it be male, white or whatever. People feel better about their success when they believe they're participating in a meritocracy, and that's rarely the case.
Hahaha... in 1996 I was sitting in the restaurant of the Yorkville 4 Seasons hotel having dinner with 2 Jewish princesses. I use the term as a very accurate pejorative, both figuratively and literally.
I'm so tempted to state their names because many will recognize them, but they shall remain nameless.
One girl (one of the biggest cock teases you will ever meet) out of the blue blurted out how she hated girls who sleep their way into roles because it puts her in a position of having to do the same thing. She thought given my past experiences and subsequent reactions to sexual harassment that she'd find a sympathetic ear. Boy was she wrong! Ha! I couldn't hold my tongue. I gave her such a mouthful.
I just glared at her, and said "Who the hell are you to judge? Have you ever walked a mile in her shoes? at least she's competing on an even playing field. Or do you think a system based nepotism is better?" etc., etc., etc., That self entitled little biyatch actually said she deserved any jobs she got because of who her father was. She actually believed that. I went off on her something fierce. I told her rather than blame the victims, place the blame where it squarely belonged... on the predatory bastards who prey on other people's vulnerabilities and desperation. if you've never been hungry, or had mouths to feed, don't you dare judge someone for doing what they felt they had to do in order to feed themselves or their children, or put a roof over their head. You ever been hungry? no, I don't think so. infact I don't think you've ever wanted for a damned thing in your life. I bet I even know what you got for your 16th birthday... you got a car didn't you... Infact, I wouldn't be surprised if Daddy pays the rent on your apartment? I read her like a fucking book! She was mortified at how transparent she was... and I gotta tell you it felt damned good to let her have it. she really needed it. Granted that wasn't the ONLY reason I unleashed on her. Unbeknownst to her I was very aware of how she mind fvcked my top client. He was another privileged Jewish prince, ...but at least he knew it, and didn't delude himself into thinking he got everything he did by merit. lol. He knew who is Dad and his Uncle were, as well as the fact that he was Jewish helped him considerably. She needed a good reaming and it felt good to give it to her.
But she literally couldn't fathom how she didn't deserve all the breaks she'd gotten simply because of who her father was, and couldn't possibly perceive of any unearned privileges she enjoyed. Talk about your entitled and frikkin' clueless princess! ::) ::)
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Now I gotta go to bed. g'night all ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzz
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What kind of proof would you need? And why do you think it's limited to roles like Lincoln? Why don't you think it extends to roles like Harry Potter and Tony Stark and Thor and any of the Avengers and the Twilight vampires or James Bond? The most successful movie currently in the top ten is "Oz:Great and Powerful". There were racial minorities in the film(in minor roles), but considering the story was inspired by preexisting material and featured preexisting characters, I doubt any black actresses were auditioned for any of the female leads (all played by white actresses). I don't know if you watch Game of Thrones, but it's an immensely popular show filmed on an epic scale and it is not cast colorblind.
Another HBO show, "Girls", has received a lot of criticism because it takes place in an area of New York in which the population is less than 30% white, yet during the first season, virtually every role on the show was played by a white person. The show's star/creator (who is white) has been very publicly contrite and that might account for some of the unusually open reflections she's had about the racial make up of the show:
I can go on and on anecdotally, but I'm curious about what you would consider proof.
Remember all the hoopla when they cast Will Smith as a cowboy?
Remember all the hoopla, bitching, moaning & gnashing of teeth when they cast a black actor as Thor?
Remember all the hoopla when it was suggested that Beyonce was being considered for the part of Wonder Woman?
...and Will Smith and Beyonce are stars with major box office!!!
For crying out loud... audiences were going nuts that they cast a BLOND James Bond FFS!
ok, ...now I REALLY have to go to bed. ;D
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A long video, ...but well worth watching. G'night. I really mean it this time. ;D
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Remember all the hoopla when they cast Will Smith as a cowboy?
Remember all the hoopla, bitching, moaning & gnashing of teeth when they cast a black actor as Thor?
Remember all the hoopla when it was suggested that Beyonce was being considered for the part of Wonder Woman?
...and Will Smith and Beyonce are stars with major box office!!!
For crying out loud... audiences were going nuts that they cast a BLOND James Bond FFS!
ok, ...now I REALLY have to go to bed. ;D
Brilliant!
While we're at it, let's cast Martin Short as Malcolm X!
Let's cast Tom Arnold as Shaft!
Until Anthony Hopkins is cast as George Jefferson, white privilege shall taint the dignity of all humanity!
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After reviewing this thread, it is apparent that the"white privilege" boogeyman amounts to nothing more than a lack of perseverance exhibited by low achieving blacks.
If the losers in this thread spent half as much time doing something productive with their lives instead of bitching about how white people get all of the good acting jobs or how white people get along with the staff of best buy because of their race, the fantasy of "white privilege" would immediately disappear into obscurity.
It's much more intelligent to call people names than prove them wrong or make some positive contribution to society. :)
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Typical White People ::)
What ever happened to "TNN"? White peoples BET
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But she literally couldn't fathom how she didn't deserve all the breaks she'd gotten simply because of who her father was, and couldn't possibly perceive of any unearned privileges she enjoyed. Talk about your entitled and frikkin' clueless princess!
This reminds me of something I read about the actress Gwyneth Paltrow. She gave an interview a few years ago where the interviewer asked her why there was so much animosity directed towards her on the internet. Her answer was basically people were jealous of her life and didn't understand that she worked damn hard
for everything she got. This is a woman whose father was a successful producer, whose mother was a well-known actress and whose family was so close to Steven Spielberg that she called him "uncle" and he cast her in her first film role when she was a teenager. I don't doubt she made the most of her opportunities, but the answer she gave in that interview implied that she considers herself a self-made success.
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This reminds me of something I read about the actress Gwyneth Paltrow. She gave an interview a few years ago where the interviewer asked her why there was so much animosity directed towards her on the internet. Her answer was basically people were jealous of her life and didn't understand that she worked damn hard
for everything she got. This is a woman whose father was a successful producer, whose mother was a well-known actress and whose family was so close to Steven Spielberg that she called him "uncle" and he cast her in her first film role when she was a teenager. I don't doubt she made the most of her opportunities, but the answer she gave in that interview implied that she considers herself a self-made success.
haha...
Your posts just reek of butt hurt! ;D
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Remember all the hoopla when they cast Will Smith as a cowboy?
Remember all the hoopla, bitching, moaning & gnashing of teeth when they cast a black actor as Thor?
Remember all the hoopla when it was suggested that Beyonce was being considered for the part of Wonder Woman?
...and Will Smith and Beyonce are stars with major box office!!!
For crying out loud... audiences were going nuts that they cast a BLOND James Bond FFS!
ok, ...now I REALLY have to go to bed. ;D
There's a black Thor?
Where?
There's a black Nick Fury, but that was from the Marvel Ultimate Universe and that worked with almost no one saying anything about it.
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There's a black Thor?
Where?
There's a black Nick Fury, but that was from the Marvel Ultimate Universe and that worked with almost no one saying anything about it.
I think she is referring to Idris Elba as Heimdall in the Thor movie. Here's a link:
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/12/16/racists-thor-idris-ebla-racism/
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There's a black Thor?
Where?
There's a black Nick Fury, but that was from the Marvel Ultimate Universe and that worked with almost no one saying anything about it.
IIRC, it was another Norse God in the movie.
People complained that a Norse God wouldn't be black. TBH, it was kind of dumb in my opinion.
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I think she is referring to Idris Elba as Heimdall in the Thor movie. Here's a link:
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/12/16/racists-thor-idris-ebla-racism/
I don't recall people being angry about that either.
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What kind of proof would you need? And why do you think it's limited to roles like Lincoln? Why don't you think it extends to roles like Harry Potter and Tony Stark and Thor and any of the Avengers and the Twilight vampires or James Bond? The most successful movie currently in the top ten is "Oz:Great and Powerful". There were racial minorities in the film(in minor roles), but considering the story was inspired by preexisting material and featured preexisting characters, I doubt any black actresses were auditioned for any of the female leads (all played by white actresses). I don't know if you watch Game of Thrones, but it's an immensely popular show filmed on an epic scale and it is not cast colorblind.
Another HBO show, "Girls", has received a lot of criticism because it takes place in an area of New York in which the population is less than 30% white, yet during the first season, virtually every role on the show was played by a white person. The show's star/creator (who is white) has been very publicly contrite and that might account for some of the unusually open reflections she's had about the racial make up of the show:
I can go on and on anecdotally, but I'm curious about what you would consider proof.
Here's your allegation:
"But the majority of speaking roles in mainstream productions are written for whites and often specify white in their casting calls"
Show me casting calls, where race is irrelevant (i.e. the actor is NOT playing Lincoln), that specify white only.
Can't get anymore straightforward.
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Here's your allegation:
"But the majority of speaking roles in mainstream productions are written for whites and often specify white in their casting calls"
Show me casting calls, where race is irrelevant (i.e. the actor is NOT playing Lincoln), that specify white only.
Can't get anymore straightforward.
Here's an excerpt from an article Salon did on casting calls a little while ago:
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2012/07/casting_and_race_the_tricky_business_of_writing_casting_notices.2.html
Robinson’s analysis of three months’ worth of film breakdowns found that Caucasian roles made up 22.5 percent of advertised openings. The next largest category of ethnic-specific roles was designated African-American (8.1 percent). The smallest category was made up of Native American characters (0.5 percent).
The article goes on to say this:
The largest group of roles in Robinson’s sample—46.5 percent—included no ethnic designation at all. According to most of his sources, a role with no ethnic designation would be implicitly understood by talent agents and actors to be Caucasian—meaning that, in Robinson’s final tally, 69 percent of open film roles were presumed to be reserved for white actors. (Breakdown Services has rejected Robinson’s analysis, saying they don’t know where he got the breakdowns he was reading.)
Larry Williams, founder of Williams Talent Agency, which specializes in representing African-American and minority performers, says Robinson’s interpretation tracks with his experience: Usually, he finds that a role with no ethnic designation ultimately goes to a Caucasian actor. (Meanwhile, he’s found that roles bearing a disclaimer like “submit all ethnicities” go to Caucasian actors about 60 percent of the time.)
Even if you take issue with the second paragraph I posted (and some people quoted at the source do dispute it), there is still a larger pool of jobs specifically for whites than for any other race.
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Here's an excerpt from an article Salon did on casting calls a little while ago:
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2012/07/casting_and_race_the_tricky_business_of_writing_casting_notices.2.html
The article goes on to say this:
Even if you take issue with the second paragraph I posted (and some people quoted at the source do dispute it), there is still a larger pool of jobs specifically for whites than for any other race.
Dude, those are specifically Caucasian roles. In other words....Lincoln wasn't black!
I couldn't help but notice the one talent agent: "Meanwhile, he’s found that roles bearing a disclaimer like “submit all ethnicities” go to Caucasian actors about 60 percent of the time"
So, if we use census numbers,
Whites = 78% of the population
But are only getting 60% of the jobs.
So even if there's a larger pool (i.e. more Lincoln movies than Malcolm X movies), it ends up being a push with Whites underrepresented in unspecified roles.
I'm sure numbers are off and it's probably exceptionally difficult to do these studies and make these estimates. But the privilege aspect seems to be equally daunting.
For the sake of argument, I pose the same question to you. What should be done about it?
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I couldn't help but notice the one talent agent: "Meanwhile, he’s found that roles bearing a disclaimer like “submit all ethnicities” go to Caucasian actors about 60 percent of the time"
So, if we use census numbers,
Whites = 78% of the population
But are only getting 60% of the jobs.
So even if there's a larger pool (i.e. more Lincoln movies than Malcolm X movies), it ends up being a push with Whites underrepresented in unspecified roles.
That isn't what that excerpt meant. Here is the quote in a more complete context:
Usually, he finds that a role with no ethnic designation ultimately goes to a Caucasian actor. (Meanwhile, he’s found that roles bearing a disclaimer like “submit all ethnicities” go to Caucasian actors about 60 percent of the time.)
The article makes a differentiation between a casting call with no ethnic designation and calls containing a request to submit all ethnicities. Casting calls with no ethnic designations are generally considered to be
reserved for whites, while "submit all ethnicities" usually means race is irrelevant. So, that excerpt is saying that the roles not containing an ethnic designation usually go to whites, but within that group of roles there is another subset that is generally considered more open,and those roles usually go to whites as well.
Dude, those are specifically Caucasian roles. In other words....Lincoln wasn't black!
...so even if there's a larger pool (i.e. more Lincoln movies than Malcolm X movies), it ends up being a push with Whites underrepresented in unspecified roles.
Well, I'm glad you can at least admit this. It appears that you may have misunderstood my earlier posts.
I was not making the argument that casting directors favor whites over other races. My point was that the sheer number of opportunities and the quality of the opportunities was more favorable for whites. I'm not sure why you insist that this is a phenomenon that would only occur in the shadow of hifalutin' fare like "Lincoln" or "Malcolm X". It's systemic. While there are circumstances when casting directors and producers will cast a role differently from how it's written, most mainstream productions are written with white leads. Once the white lead is cast, the love interest will be white the majority of the time. If the couple has kids, those are more job openings available for white child actors that aren't open to black child actors. If the kids are teens and the teens go on dates, those are more job openings that will almost exclusively be for whites. That is the privilege I'm talking about. The pool is bigger, the quality within that pool is superior, the chance for success is greater.
"So, Al?" you might be saying. "That's just one profession. It doesn't have an affect on the real world." Well, I would disagree. I think there is a really short jump from where white privilege ends and white preference begins. I used the acting examples because, to my eye, they're so transparent.
For the sake of argument, I pose the same question to you. What should be done about it?
For starters, actually addressing it. There will always be people who are resistant to even acknowledging the existence of the phenomenon, but there are rare examples like Lena Dunham. I don't watch that show and I'm not holding my breath in anticipation of a black "Girl" or another black love interest, but if she is actually receptive to criticism and somewhat genuinely open to analyzing her perceptions of the cultural hegemony, then that's progress. Despite some suggestions made in this thread, things don't actually just change on their own. Problems don't go away by ignoring them.
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Here's your allegation:
"But the majority of speaking roles in mainstream productions are written for whites and often specify white in their casting calls"
Show me casting calls, where race is irrelevant (i.e. the actor is NOT playing Lincoln), that specify white only.
Can't get anymore straightforward.
Sorry Skip... that's impossible to do. That fact that you even requested such a thing reveals how little you know about the casting process. I don't mean that as a flame. It's simply that the nature of these casting notices (what we refer to as 'breakdowns') are extremely confidential. Actors can't even see them. they are distributed only between Casting Directors & agents. The only way actors get access is by hacking the breakdown system and file sharing amongst other actors, or if agents give them access, but for the most part actors are kept out of the loop.
Right now the best I can give is anecdotal evidence from just a few months ago. A friend of mine facebook shared an urgent casting notice posted by one of her friends (an agent) who was desperate to find 2 little girls between the ages of 8 - 10 yrs. old to play guests for an upcoming scene in a TV show depicting a children's birthday party. In his notice, he mentioned which Casting Director he was trying to locate the children for, as well as the location (address) where the scene was going to be shot.
Well, I happen to know the Casting Director for that show and she's a sweetheart. If there was anything I could do to help her out, I would. My friend who also shared the noticed is a terrific gal, and I was only too happy to help out one of her friends who was in turn trying to help a mutual friend of all three of us. Besides, I had been in that agent's shoes, so I was more than happy to help if i could. Then it occurred to me that my own nieces are 8 & 10 yrs old, live right around the corner from the home being used for the location, and they were off school at that time, so I thought, perhaps I could help to feed a few birds with one worm.
I noticed there was something lacking about the notice he put out though. It didn't specify any ethnicity, or that all ethnicities should be submitted, so before contacting my sister to see if the girls would even be interested, i called the agent to find out about it. I mentioned there was no ethnicity specified on the little girls. He contacted the casting director for clarification, and she specified the little girls they were seeking had to be caucasian. So much for that. Their search continued. He did subsequently re-post the notice specifying the little girls had to be caucasian.
Even when a breakdown specifies a role is open to all ethnicities, invariably what often happens is that only caucasian actors are called in to audition for the role. I doubt much as changed over the years, but it was a big wake up call for a lot of people when the union actually started tracking audition rates and the ethnicities of performers being called in based on union audition sign-in sheets.
And to be honest Skip, your assuming that this type of thing doesn't occur is just ignorant. I'm not trying to insult you, you just don't know because it is a world foreign to you. Your above comment is the equivalent of someone saying to a professional bodybuilder... that's bullshit when you say you have to eat the extra lean ground beef... there's nothing wrong with you eating the cheaper ground beef with all the fat in it. Or what do you mean you have to eat all that food, or that frequently. If you don't work in that environment, you don't know and have no business assuming what is or isn't common practices with such adamance
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Here's an example of privilege unfolding on the news right before our eye...
...we have people screaming the suspected marathon bombers have disgraced and left a stain on the entire Chechyn community.
No one ever said that about Jeffrey Dalhmer, ...and he was actually charged, tried & convicted.
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Here's an example of privilege unfolding on the news right before our eye...
...we have people screaming the suspected marathon bombers have disgraced and left a stain on the entire Chechyn community.
No one ever said that about Jeffrey Dalhmer, ...and he was actually charged, tried & convicted.
You are without a doubt, the dumbest person on this entire board. Congrats!
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You are without a doubt, the dumbest person on this entire board. Congrats!
Privilege means never having to be considered a representative of your entire race.
Too bad he hadn't been a 2nd, 3rd or 4th generation American. Chechyns the world over wouldn't have a taint.
Does your above comment reveal you to be the bitterest when confronted with the truth? I think so.
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Privilege means never having to be considered a representative of your entire race.
Too bad he hadn't been a 2nd, 3rd or 4th generation American. Chechyns the world over wouldn't have a taint.
Does your above comment reveal you to be the bitterest when confronted with the truth? I think so.
Your stupidity doesn't make me feel bitter in the least. You think a little bit too highly of yourself lol. Good luck with that.
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Your stupidity doesn't make me feel bitter in the least. You think a little bit too highly of yourself lol. Good luck with that.
Of course I think highly of myself.
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After reviewing this thread, it is apparent that the"white privilege" boogeyman amounts to nothing more than a lack of perseverance exhibited by low achieving blacks.
If the losers in this thread spent half as much time doing something productive with their lives instead of bitching about how white people get all of the good acting jobs or how white people get along with the staff of best buy because of their race, the fantasy of "white privilege" would immediately disappear into obscurity.
uh huh..sure......and remember how many years ago blacks were complaining about police brutality yet everyone said "oh they are just making this up to get back at the cops for arresting them".....then the RODNEY KING VIDEO CAME OUT AND FOR THE FIRST TIME AMERICANS, especially white Americans WERE SHOCKED TO SEE THAT IT WAS REALLY HAPPENING.....AND NOW MANY YEARS LATER MANY VIDEO TAPES OF COPS ABUSING CITIZENS FOR NO REASON HAVE COME OUT and now it is accepted that the police do in fact act with brutality for no apparent reason sometimes.....
But in the world of people like you, it was just blacks whining and crying again
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uh huh..sure......and remember how many years ago blacks were complaining about police brutality yet everyone said "oh they are just making this up to get back at the cops for arresting them".....then the RODNEY KING VIDEO CAME OUT AND FOR THE FIRST TIME AMERICANS, especially white Americans WERE SHOCKED TO SEE THAT IT WAS REALLY HAPPENING.....AND NOW MANY YEARS LATER MANY VIDEO TAPES OF COPS ABUSING CITIZENS FOR NO REASON HAVE COME OUT and now it is accepted that the police do in fact act with brutality for no apparent reason sometimes.....
But in the world of people like you, it was just blacks whining and crying again
Stop thugging and dealing and you wont get jacked.
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Stop thugging and dealing and you wont get jacked.
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Here's an example of privilege unfolding on the news right before our eye...
...we have people screaming the suspected marathon bombers have disgraced and left a stain on the entire Chechyn community.
No one ever said that about Jeffrey Dalhmer, ...and he was actually charged, tried & convicted.
One of the those people was the marathon bombers' very own UNCLE.
Whorewell is right about you.
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One of the those people was the marathon bombers' very own UNCLE.
Whorewell is right about you.
The very first statement I heard like this was infact from his very own UNCLE.
And THAT's EXACTLY what I'm talking about... the pressure and expectation of having to represent an entire community. When Dalhmer committed his crimes, who claimed him to be a stain on all American Caucasian males?
The very fact that despite his growing up in the USA, and obtaining American citizenship on Sept 11, 2012, he is not referred to as an American. Over and over, he is referred to as "an ethnic Chechyn"
Reminds me of 1988 when Ben Johnson won the Gold medal. He was a "Canadian Athlete", ...but days later when testing positive for banned substances, he went from "Canadian Athlete" to "Jamaican Runner"
Are you going to answer my question from the other thread anytime soon?