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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Marty Champions on April 19, 2013, 03:22:10 PM
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if you dont even have the open mind to say "maybe" atleast god might exist
then your ability to do anything correct in this world is highly suspect
i can 'get' an atheist way of thinking but you have to be full blow retard to deny that "maybe" god exists
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Will you say "maybe" there isn't a god?
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Will you say "maybe" there isn't a god?
of course
but im challenging the logical defiance of your typical atheist
do you think an athiest will give an openminded answer such as mine?
i bet 9 out of 10 wouldnt because of some sort of attitude problem they developed as a child
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i bet 9 out of 10 wouldnt because of some sort of attitude problem they developed as a child
This is not an open minded statement and is very judgmental. You're attempting to dismiss the opposition, not by a logical counter argument, but by personal insult. Not good, falcon.
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This is not an open minded statement and is very judgmental. You're attempting to dismiss the opposition, not by a logical counter argument, but by personal insult. Not good, falcon.
no this is a realistic estimation from my studies of behavior
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no this is a realistic estimation from my studies of behavior
So, you believe that from the narrow subset of people you've had contact with, you can accurately draw a conclusion so broad?
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That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.
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That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.
this world has enough 'things' going on to be classified as 'evidence' pro mostly
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this world has enough 'things' going on to be classified as 'evidence' pro mostly
Examples?
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define god
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Examples?
the different levels of order from the macro to the micro
this would be a pro argument
but it can be twisted the other way for ex
"nothing really exists, things pop in and out of existance in retrospect in the quantam feild"
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the different levels of order from the macro to the micro
this would be a pro argument
but it can be twisted the other way for ex
"nothing really exists, things pop in and out of existance in retrospect in the quantam feild"
You're going to have to expand and be more specific on these concepts. First, define your terms. Secondly, frame your ideas into a coherent structured argument.
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You're going to have to expand and be more specific on these concepts. First, define your terms. Secondly, frame your ideas into a coherent structured argument.
the order of the planets
are they in orderly fashion? an argument for god
they are disorderly /chaotic? an argument for no god
lets not get to far ahead of ourselves shall we wilson
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the order of the planets
are they in orderly fashion? an argument for god
they are disorderly /chaotic? an argument for no god
lets not get to far ahead of ourselves shall we wilson
You can have order in the universe without the necessity of a god. Why do you think you can't? And what do you mean by order?
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the order of the planets
are they in orderly fashion? an argument for god
they are disorderly /chaotic? an argument for no god
lets not get to far ahead of ourselves shall we wilson
So you are saying the prerequisite for order is God and for disorder is no God? Surely you must have come across Chaos theory before? I don't understand why the mind links a creator to order, but not disorder, when really they are inseparable.
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You can have order in the universe without the necessity of a god. Why do you think you can't? And what do you mean by order?
order=instructions,collaboration,rule ect
someone has to give instructions
or does it have to be someone
or is that just the way it is?
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So you are saying the prerequisite for order is God and for disorder is no God? Surely you must have come across Chaos theory before? I don't understand why the mind links a creator to order, but not disorder, when really they are inseparable.
im sure of that there is an order to disorder
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order=instructions,collaboration,rule ect
someone has to give instructions
You believe this for what reason? You're argument is poor because it presupposed certain facts to be true. Unfortunately you have not proven them to be true at all.
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im sure of that there is an order to disorder
The mathematics show that disorder in itself creates apparent order.
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You believe this for what reason? You're argument is poor because it presupposed certain facts to be true. Unfortunately you have not proven them to be true at all.
an entity created the instructions
ok if you disagree then a opposite theory is needed
the answer is obvious from russelian science
that states all things (atoms and elements) eminate from the electric universe starting with light photon, then increase in energy giving you from the lightest to heaviest element on the periodic table
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Just do the right things, no harm to others. God I'm not sure could be, could not be who really has the facts?
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Just do the right things, no harm to others. God I'm not sure could be, could not be who really has the facts?
having a closed mind is worst case scenario
this goes with all subjects
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Some guy works in his fathers shop as a carpenter. During his time off he begins preaching to the locals in town. Next thing you know he has trillions upon trillions of followers. An uncountable number of books made about him. Hundreds of thousands of churches open in his name around the world. Thousands of years later hes still the most popular and worshiped man in the world. 90% of the world population believes in a higher power....That's one hell of a fairy tale.
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having a closed mind is worst case scenario
this goes with all subjects
This is true in all life. Solid post
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an entity created the instructions
ok if you disagree then a opposite theory is needed
the answer is obvious from russelian science
that states all things (atoms and elements) eminate from the electric universe starting with light photon, then increase in energy giving you from the lightest to heaviest element on the periodic table
Do you know anything about entropy or inflation theory? Order for chaos?
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Some guy works in his fathers shop as a carpenter. During his time off he begins preaching to the locals in town. Next thing you know he has trillions upon trillions of followers. An uncountable number of books made about him. Hundreds of thousands of churches open in his name around the world. Thousands of years later hes still the most popular and worshiped man in the world. 90% of the world population believes in a higher power....That's one hell of a fairy tale.
Jim Jones.
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Please have open mind about the possibility there exists giant spaghetti monster somewhere in the universe.
The mathematics show that disorder in itself creates apparent order.
hahahaha wat?
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Please have open mind about the possibility there exists giant spaghetti monster somewhere in the universe.
hahahaha wat?
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if you dont even have the open mind to say "maybe" atleast god might exist
then your ability to do anything correct in this world is highly suspect
i can 'get' an atheist way of thinking but you have to be full blow retard to deny that "maybe" god exists
As long as you promise to have an open mind that 'maybe' THERE IS NO GOD.
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having a closed mind is worst case scenario
this goes with all subjects
Believing in GOD is having a closed mind. It means you have made up your mind on the topic and are no longer OPEN to other possibilities. That's why it's called belief, the Jury has delivered it's verdict and the case closed.
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Thank God no-one listened to them. The Gun Lobby in this country are considered Nut Jobs. Between the lot of them they couldn't form a coherent argument. Thank God the rednecks and the ferrels are the minority, if they weren't we may have a situation similar to America.
straight from E-kuls mouth and qouted before he can change it
there are no real athiests in the world, just some people too arogrant to submit to God.
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straight from E-kuls mouth and qouted before he can change it
there are no real athiests in the world, just some people too arogrant to submit to God.
That's silly.
When someone says "Fuck You", they don't mean they actually want to fuck you.
It's a saying... We are raised around phrases... He is simply saying one he has heard a million times over and people understand.
I actually use the phrase "Thank goodness" in those instances, but that's because I'm very particular about making sure people understand that I do not thank any God for anything.
That said, if God proved his existence to me, I'd be fine with it.
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Believing in GOD is having a closed mind. It means you have made up your mind on the topic and are no longer OPEN to other possibilities. That's why it's called belief, the Jury has delivered it's verdict and the case closed.
As annoying as you are, I agree with you on this.
Religious people always tell atheists to have an open mind, yet they are 100% certain a god exists, they are 100% certain that only their god exists, and they are not willing to hear anything else. How is this open minded? :-X :-X
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straight from E-kuls mouth and qouted before he can change it
there are no real athiests in the world, just some people too arogrant to submit to God.
You are a strange one, lots of people say Thank God, it has ZERO reflection on their religous affiliation. It is a commonly used expression or phrase, no different than when I curse in traffic at another driver calling him a 'mother fucker', I don't literally believe he fucks his mother.(unless of course the other driver is you, then I actually believe that you fuck your mother) If that's all it takes for you to think others believe in GOD, well God help you. :o
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Just do the right things, no harm to others. God I'm not sure could be, could not be who really has the facts?
The problem is many people harm others without thinking they are.
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The problem is many people harm others without thinking they are.
BINGO, and it's almost always the do-gooders, and the righteous and the religious zealots. The majority of people would do more good by doing NOTHING, but do-gooders can't help themselves, always interfering in other people business. What's that old saying "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"
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BINGO, and it's almost always the do-gooders, and the righteous and the religious zealots. The majority of people would do more good by doing NOTHING, but do-gooders can't help themselves, always interfering in other people business. What's that old saying "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"
Yes...I'd also venture to say that alot of the so called do-gooders are passive aggressive know it alls who think the way they live their life is the best way.
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In high schools I wrote an essay about why I'm atheist. Wish I still had it, I can't remember what grade I got but since the teacher was religious I bet it got marked down some.
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I believe he exists - at least let him exist in your heart.
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Listen, I know 90% or so of this forum has no higher education, and believe whatever Google tells them... But know staticians from best universities all confirm, mathematically (a true science) proves it's impossible for life to exist without a creator. This is a fact.
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The mathematics show that disorder in itself creates apparent order.
oh brother, do go on...
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BINGO, and it's almost always the do-gooders, and the righteous and the religious zealots. The majority of people would do more good by doing NOTHING, but do-gooders can't help themselves, always interfering in other people business. What's that old saying "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"
good post, for once ;D
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Listen, I know 90% or so of this forum has no higher education, and believe whatever Google tells them... But know staticians from best universities all confirm, mathematically (a true science) proves it's impossible for life to exist without a creator. This is a fact.
What are "know staticians" or did you mean "now statisticians" and according to world renowned Theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking the evidence points towards there being NO GOD.
I am not sure what scientists you are talking about, but multiple surveys have shown that between 60% and 70 % of US scientists expressed disbelief or doubt in the existence of God,
Hawking said the following.
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Hawking said "When people ask me if a god created the universe, I tell them that the question itself makes no sense. Time didn’t exist before the big bang, so there is no time for god to make the universe in. It’s like asking directions to the edge of the earth; The Earth is a sphere; it doesn’t have an edge; so looking for it is a futile exercise. We are each free to believe what we want, and it’s my view that the simplest explanation is; there is no god. No one created our universe,and no one directs our fate. This leads me to a profound realization; There is probably no heaven, and no afterlife either. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe, and for that I am extremely grateful.”
if ever people started to forget that being good at math doesn't make someone generally intelligent, just roll stephen hawking into the room
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if ever people started to forget that being good at math doesn't make someone generally intelligent, just roll stephen hawking into the room
A foolish person is 'quick' to condemn what they do not understand. A wise person is 'slow' to condemn what they do understand
Martino, Joseph P
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I have an open mind.
Just not so open that my brain would fall out.
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oh brother, do go on...
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I don't need to, the evidence speaks for itself...
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I have an open mind.
Just not so open that my brain would fall out.
THIS.
"Open minded" and "Actively thinking" are two separate things...the people that profess their "open mindedness" the most are often the types looking for the next best conspiracy theory.
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I am the God of fuck!