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It seems that one out of two girls in America are "Bipolar"..... I dated a bipolar" chick for a while.... She will be nice a nice,friendly,polite sweet girl for 3 days.... then she will simply ignore everyone even looking down as she walks to avoid saying "Hi" to neighbors, friends etc ..... She's bipolar so deal with it....really?
But when it comes to $$$$ she's never depressed or sad... interesting
She was employee of the Month at Chilli's always happy and outgoing as long as the tip was there to be made....
So that means that she cannot only say hi but be nice and caring at all working hours time.. so you can control that ilness
Then you have the cute plastic bipolar, one that works at the front desk of a commercial gym always reading a mag and chewing gum to avoid eye contact with clients.......
I wonder what GetBiggers including Sir Sean Connery think about this "growing illness" in the US.
WoooooSHHHHHHHHH
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Yes it's legit. Run away from said women
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My mother is a psychotic bi-polar, self absorbed complete c.unty bitch.
...yes, it's real, very fucking real.
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Ouch
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Bipolar
is legit
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It is real and the term shouldn't be abused. I was in a relationship with a girl that was certifiable. Eventually she got the papers to prove it, too.
Bipolars are the ones who stand to benefit the most from medication.
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More Bullshit from the drug dealers who call themselves Doctors! Life has its ups and downs and your suppose to feel life not shut your mind and sould down with drugs!
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My mother is a psychotic bi-polar, self absorbed complete c.unty bitch.
...yes, it's real, very fucking real.
Damn, dude. :-\ :-\
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More Bullshit from the drug dealers who call themselves Doctors! Life has its ups and downs and your suppose to feel life not shut your mind and sould down with drugs!
Sounds like you haven't come to terms with your diagnoses.
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Sounds like you haven't come to terms with your diagnoses.
;D
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So called "Bipolar" people are actually the normal ones. They realise that life can be shit and good and change their moods accordingly.
The only people who aren't bipolar are the moronic kunts who are too stupid to realise what a shit depressing world we live in.
This is why mongols go thru life in a happy haze. Just like the way a "normal" person feels when they are stoned on coke or bladdered on whiskey.
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So called "Bipolar" people are actually the normal ones. They realise that life can be shit and good and change their moods accordingly.
The only people who aren't bipolar are the moronic kunts who are too stupid to realise what a shit depressing world we live in.
This is why mongols go thru life in a happy haze. Just like the way a "normal" person feels when they are stoned on coke or bladdered on whiskey.
Slit your wrist, dumb M O T H E R F U C K E R.
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So called "Bipolar" people are actually the normal ones. They realise that life can be shit and good and change their moods accordingly.
The only people who aren't bipolar are the moronic kunts who are too stupid to realise what a shit depressing world we live in.
This is why mongols go thru life in a happy haze. Just like the way a "normal" person feels when they are stoned on coke or bladdered on whiskey.
that ain't bipolar, dingus. that's just reacting to life. bipolar is a scary thing if you've ever dealt with someone who had it. seeing someone insta-flip from extreme to extreme is really bizarre.
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Slit your wrist, dumb M O T H E R F U C K E R.
I take it you're having a bipolar evening you silly wee wank.
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that ain't bipolar, dingus. that's just reacting to life. bipolar is a scary thing if you've ever dealt with someone who had it. seeing someone insta-flip from extreme to extreme is really bizarre.
We don't have bipolar in Scotland. On a Saturday night in the pub every kunt is your friend one minute and trying to shove a broken beer glass in your face the next. It's normal behaviour here.
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Yes, sex is incredible, you just have to learn to sleep with one eye open.
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It's in the DSM-IV so it's legit.
Maybe the people in your examples don't have it, and are using it as an excuse to be dicks. To be bipolar you need to be diagnosed by mental health professionals who will prescribe medications to stabilize moods.
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It seems that one out of two girls in America are "Bipolar"..... I dated a bipolar" chick for a while.... She will be nice a nice,friendly,polite sweet girl for 3 days.... then she will simply ignore everyone even looking down as she walks to avoid saying "Hi" to neighbors, friends etc ..... She's bipolar so deal with it....really?
But when it comes to $$$$ she's never depressed or sad... interesting
She was employee of the Month at Chilli's always happy and outgoing as long as the tip was there to be made....
So that means that she cannot only say hi but be nice and caring at all working hours time.. so you can control that ilness
Then you have the cute plastic bipolar, one that works at the front desk of a commercial gym always reading a mag and chewing gum to avoid eye contact with clients.......
I wonder what GetBiggers including Sir Sean Connery think about this "growing illness" in the US.
WoooooSHHHHHHHHH
Hit, get a shit load of free enchilada soup, and RUN
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It's in the DSM-IV so it's legit.
Maybe the people in your examples don't have it, and are using it as an excuse to be dicks. To be bipolar you need to be diagnosed by mental health professionals who will prescribe medications to stabilize moods.
Homosexuality was in the DSM III...
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Real bipolar is legit, when you've dealt with a real case there will be no doubt in your mind as to its authenticity.
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We once had a female pro photo shoot, she was professional sweet and kind, when asked to remove all her clothing she flipped in a quarter of a second ! she became a vulgar bitch. I thought she was joking since she agreed and took the money for naked posing,wrestling etc. but she grabbed all her stuff and was coursing hysterically With homer Simpson like eyes popping, I thought she was gonna hit me. She left the place and drove barefooted. A month later she called to apologize very sweet and educated saying she didn't take her bipolar meds" That day. But didn't say a word about rescheduling or refunding the money and yes was the kind of money you don't win in a show.. So Bipolar my ass. Just stay away from me and my wallet.
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Right here is bipolar a good range of focus.
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Real bipolar is legit, when you've dealt with a real case there will be no doubt in your mind as to its authenticity.
I dealt with the real deal for six years.
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I dealt with the real deal for six years.
Do tell.
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We once had a female pro photo shoot, she was professional sweet and kind, when asked to remove all her clothing she flipped in a quarter of a second ! she became a vulgar bitch. I thought she was joking since she agreed and took the money for naked posing,wrestling etc. but she grabbed all her stuff and was coursing hysterically With homer Simpson like eyes popping, I thought she was gonna hit me. She left the place and drove barefooted. A month later she called to apologize very sweet and educated saying she didn't take her bipolar meds" That day. But didn't say a word about rescheduling or refunding the money and yes was the kind of money you don't win in a show.. So Bipolar my ass. Just stay away from me and my wallet.
if it were up to me, you would be erased from the earth
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I dealt with the real deal for six years.
the boy's mom?
Where is she now btw?
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It's real....nm
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if it were up to me, you would be erased from the earth
What's wrong with you? One min you love me the next you want to wipe me off the face of the earth.
Oh I get it. Sticking to the topic at hand aren't we ?
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the boy's mom?
Where is she now btw?
Yes. She has been bouncing around the OC for years. About a month ago she went back to Indiana to visit family, hasn't been back since.
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Homosexuality was in the DSM III...
And the DSM IIIr
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bi-polar is an excuse to be a _cunt_.
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Yes. She has been bouncing around the OC for years. About a month ago she went back to Indiana to visit family, hasn't been back since.
Sorry to hear I'm sure you miss her.
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bi-polar is an excuse to be a _cunt_.
Thats borderline personality disorder axis II you uneducated twat
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Sorry to hear I'm sure you miss her.
I'm just happy to have lived through it.
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I believe it exists but I also believe a lot of people aren't but use it to excuse a complete lack of fucking effort on their part. Same goes for ADD, Autism, PTSD, 'anger management issues'...etc
Like I said, I don't doubt the existence of these things, just the prevalence.
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I can cure most cases of ADD and ADHD.....with a belt.
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I can cure most cases of ADD and ADHD.....with a belt.
LOL.
WoooSHHHHHHHHHH
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Bipolar is a catchall diagnosis for mental, bitchy women (which is about 90% of them.
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It might be real. FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!!! It could be legit. SUCK MY PIXIE STIX!!!!
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bi-polar is an excuse to be a _cunt_.
Oh yeah? :D
In that case I'm bi polar everybody. So don't mind when I get "bitchy". It's not me...It's my bi polar disorder.
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Legit Bi-Polar exists - these people can become dangerous and suicidal.
Having said that I am sure it is way over-diagnosed, and there are plenty or regular "idiots" getting diagnosed incorrectly.
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Real bipolar is legit, when you've dealt with a real case there will be no doubt in your mind as to its authenticity.
This, Bipolar is thrown around to much to describe every up and down in todays society!
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Life is tough deal with it and grow Stronger!
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Bipolar is similar to, but much more extreme than, moodswings.
I know one who has it for real. Scary shit, can come with hallucinations.
The doctors' in Sweden doesn't just do shock theraphy to some mixed up person with moodswings.
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Life is tough deal with it and grow Stronger!
You're the biggest fucking creep to ever hit bb'ing right after lonnie teper.
Deal with it.
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No 'disorder' is a get out of bad behavior free card. If someone is a pain in the ass, I don't really want to hear all about the reason why. I just want them gone. What someone's doctor told them doesn't make them any less unpleasant to me, so I guess I don't really care if it's legitimate or not. It makes no difference. I'm unsympathetic.
Psychiatric diagnoses are a great way to convince people they aren't responsible for their own actions. Also makes them believe they are helpless and require perpetual care to 'manage their condition.' Weak personalities welcome a diagnosis which relieves them of the responsibility of self determination.
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Bipolar is similar to, but much more extreme than, moodswings.
I know one who has it for real. Scary shit, can come with hallucinations.
The doctors' in Sweden doesn't just do shock theraphy to some mixed up person with moodswings.
I think that some of the extreme cases are not just bi-polar. Probably Bi-Polar + Schizophrena etc.
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It's legit and very easy to diagnose...
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I was together with one girl who had it too. Was with her for 6 years and she got diagnosed in first year already. I say like coach I was happy to live after those years. They were brutal! She could go episode free for quite some time but would relapse sooner or later. It would always be very dramatic and turned against me. Like she was'nt apart of the ecuation at all. She could do all sorts of bad behavouior and if I wanted to talk about it she would refuse to and would focus on my shit instead. She could easily get an oscar for irratic behavouior. Drama queen extreme.
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Yes but wayyy over diagnosed both self and by doctor. True bipolar disorder the swings are quite severe.
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Bipolar is a catchall diagnosis for mental, bitchy women (which is about 90% of them.
Bipolar disorder occurs equally in men and women. However, there are some big differences in the characterization of the symptoms of bipolar disorder in women and men.
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Its for Losers Who post under unknown names! These are WEAK people who don't understand life is a challenge and you need to face up to it! These Doctors,DRUG DEALERS,should be locked up for enslaving people!
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Oh yeah? :D
In that case I'm bi polar everybody. So don't mind when I get "bitchy". It's not me...It's my bi polar disorder.
Could be.... ;)
Women may be more apt to switch moods more quickly than men. This is known as rapid cycling and is estimated to be caused by any number of factors. Some of these factors may include differences in thyroid gland activity, changing levels of sex hormones, and the tendency for doctors to prescribe antidepressants to women.
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I've never known a bipolar girl who was NOT at one point sexually abused/molested as a child. No joke, I can count 6 just off the top of my head. Coincidence ???
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Handle your woman Fool! Theere is no excuse for acting like a girl!
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Handle your woman Fool! Theere is no excuse for acting like a girl!
You need to cool your jets, pal.
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It has been estimated as well that over 60 percent of patients with bipolar disorder abuse drugs and alcohol or are dependent on these substances.
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I was together with one girl who had it too. Was with her for 6 years and she got diagnosed in first year already. I say like coach I was happy to live after those years. They were brutal! She could go episode free for quite some time but would relapse sooner or later. It would always be very dramatic and turned against me. Like she was'nt apart of the ecuation at all. She could do all sorts of bad behavouior and if I wanted to talk about it she would refuse to and would focus on my shit instead. She could easily get an oscar for irratic behavouior. Drama queen extreme.
sex was great though wasn't it?
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The assumption on the part of the psychologically unbalanced individual is that you just have to put up with it since ['my doctor says'] it isn't her fault.
Well it certainly isn't my fault, so it's not my burden to bear. You can just go be a pain in the ass somewhere else.
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It might be real. FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!!! It could be legit. SUCK MY PIXIE STIX!!!!
That's Tourette's YOU COCKSUCKING DUCK FUCKING RETARD.
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There is no such thing as mental illness. Psychiatry is an extension of the law (not medicine) and a way to sell shit loads of drugs. It's always about behaviour that others find objectionable (generally those in power), not illness at all, real illness can be found at autopsy, mental illness is just a bunch of bullshit voted on by pseudo doctors in white coats with a vested interest in selling overpriced quackery and drugs. The DSM is now so full of invented conditions that it covers the whole planets population. The average person could easily be slotted into at least 5 Psychiatric diagnoses.
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There is no such thing as mental illness. Psychiatry is an extension of the law (not medicine) and a way to sell shit loads of drugs. It's always about behaviour that others find objectionable (generally those in power), not illness at all, real illness can be found at autopsy, mental illness is just a bunch of bullshit voted on by pseudo doctors in white coats with a vested interest in selling overpriced quackery and drugs. The DSM is now so full of invented conditions that it covers the whole planets population. The average person could easily be slotted into at least 5 Psychiatric diagnoses.
Yeah those quirky paranoid schizophrenics and their silly auditory and visual hallucinations....thats just the devil, burn the heretics.
And those PTSD pussies just need to man up.....milking it for all its worth.
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Yeah those quirky paranoid schizophrenics and their silly auditory and visual hallucinations....thats just the devil, burn the heretics.
And those PTSD pussies just need to man up.....milking it for all its worth.
Don't forget this is coming from a guy who's scared and traumatized to go outside because of a pit bull attack. What Fucking delusional turd E-kul is.
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Yeah those quirky paranoid schizophrenics and their silly auditory and visual hallucinations....thats just the devil, burn the heretics.
And those PTSD pussies just need to man up.....milking it for all its worth.
PTSD is a normal reaction to a freak event. Nothing to do with mental illness. And if by hallucinations you mean an experience involving the apparent perception of something not present, that accounts for the majority of the planet, who believe in all types of non existent phenomena, like GOD for instance.
And the drugs given to Schizophrenics actually cause brain damage. The side effects from these type of psychiatric drugs are far worse than the so called mental illness of Schizophrenia.
“If you talk to God, you are praying; If God talks to you, you have schizophrenia.”
“Schizophrenia is defined so vaguely that, in actuality, it is a term often applied to almost any kind of behavior of which the speaker disapproves.”
“If schizophrenia…turns out to have a biochemical cause and cure, schizophrenia would no longer be one of the diseases for which a person would be involuntarily committed. In fact, it would then be treated by neurologists, and psychiatrists then have no more to do with it than they do with Glioblastoma [malignant tumor], Parkinsonism, and other diseases of the brain.”
“‘Mental illness’ is an expression, a metaphor that describes an offending, disturbing, shocking, or vexing conduct, action, or pattern of behavior, such as schizophrenia, as an ‘illness’ or disease.”
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Don't forget this is coming from a guy who's scared and traumatized to go outside because of a pit bull attack. What Fucking delusional turd E-kul is.
Lot's of armchair psychiatrists in here. I have never said I was scared or afraid to go outside. Your mother really did do a number on you didn't she.
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Lot's of armchair psychiatrists in here. I have never said I was scared or afraid to go outside. Your mother really did do a number on you didn't she.
You pretend to be a know it all. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Everyone knows this around here except you.
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Lot's of armchair psychiatrists in here. I have never said I was scared or afraid to go outside. Your mother really did do a number on you didn't she.
Irony meter overload
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You pretend to be a know it all. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Everyone knows this around here except you.
What you mean is you perceive me as a "Know it all". I on the other hand feel quite the opposite, I feel there is so much I don't know. There are numerous fields of study I continue to explore and continue to learn about it. I think you may be better of talking for yourself, you seem to know what I am and what everyone else thinks. Considering your Mother has done such a number on you, it may be wise to focus on what you think about yourself and what your own feelings are. It might be time to 'OWN" your own feelings and thoughts. ;D
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what if someone had that tourettes disorder where they couldn't stop swearing or making involuntary movements? that's just made up too?
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What you mean is you perceive me as a "Know it all". I on the other hand feel quite the opposite, I feel there is so much I don't know. There are numerous fields of study I continue to explore and continue to learn about it. I think you may be better of talking for yourself, you seem to know what I am and what everyone else thinks. Considering your Mother has done such a number on you, it may be wise to focus on what you think about yourself and what your own feelings are. It might be time to 'OWN" your own feelings and thoughts. ;D
Please STFU and die.
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Irony meter overload
No need for me to be an armchair psychiatrist in this case - Psychopath has admitted it himself in the very first post in this thread.
My mother is a psychotic bi-polar, self absorbed complete c.unty bitch.
...yes, it's real, very fucking real.
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No need for me to be an armchair psychiatrist in this case - Psychopath has admitted it himself in the very first post in this thread.
You're an idiot. You claim psychiatry is a fraud, yet you diagnose me with psychiatry. I don't understand your logic.
...and i was unaffected by my mothers retardation, and i lead a normal life.
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what if someone had that tourettes disorder where they couldn't stop swearing or making involuntary movements? that's just made up too?
Tourette syndrome (TS) is more than likely a neurological disorder, If and when they get a greater understanding of the biological causes it would then be treated by neurologists. Mental illness are just made up disorders, they don't actually exist anywhere except in the minds of psychiatrists and any of the patients who are gullible enough to buy their nonsense.
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You're an idiot. You claim psychiatry is a fraud, yet you diagnose me with psychiatry. I don't understand your logic.
...and i was unaffected by my mothers retardation, and i lead a normal life.
No I merely reflected back to you what you believe. I don't believe in bi-polar, that's something you believe in. If you perceive your Mother in such a negative way you obviously have a poor relationship with your Mother. You don't need to be a psychiatrist to know that a son's relationship with their Mother is of vital importance in overall character development. Rather than suggest your Mother is mentally Ill, she more than likely lacks quality character traits that lead to a balanced personality. It would have been hard for you to not pick these traits up. (for eg. Your hypersensitivity & over-reactivity). What people refer to as mental illness is usually just a case of a shitty personality.
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So axis III diagnosis is ok ifit stems from a physical cause leading to a phycological disorder...but you claim Axis I and II are made up bullshit....so depression, anxiety, all the personality disorders are invented to sell Prozac Xanax Zoloft got it....
Catatonics are just faking it.....manic states on bipolars is red bull induced. And having Jesus speak to you on radio channel 98.9 is a miracle of the burning bush variety...
By the way nice analysing Psychos Freudian mother complex. Oh the hypocrisy is strong with this one....
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You're an idiot. You claim psychiatry is a fraud, yet you diagnose me with psychiatry. I don't understand your logic.
...and i was unaffected by my mothers retardation, and i lead a normal life.
There is no such thing as 'NORMAL', Normal is a cycle on a washing machine. That's the whole point, that's why Mental Illness is such bunk, they are trying to fit everyone into a box.
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No I merely reflected back to you what you believe. I don't believe in bi-polar, that's something you believe in. If you perceive your Mother in such a negative way you obviously have a poor relationship with your Mother. You don't need to be a psychiatrist to know that a son's relationship with their Mother is of vital importance in overall character development. Rather than suggest your Mother is mentally Ill, she more than likely lacks quality character traits that lead to a balanced personality. It would have been hard for you to not pick these traits up. (for eg. Your hypersensitivity & over-reactivity). What people refer to as mental illness is usually just a case of a shitty personality.
No man, i lead a normal life , and i'm a well balanced person. You sound like a fucking obese middle aged house wife f.aggot.
DON'T REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE OR TALK ABOUT ME AGAIN. FUCKING CREEP.
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I also dated a bipolar chick off and on for three years and it is no doubt, authentic. The wild part is that she has a master's degree in psychology.
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I also dated a bipolar chick off and on for three years and it is no doubt, authentic. The wild part is that she has a master's degree in psychology.
Most people with psychological disorders go int the mental health field...they're trying to self fix. Never works.
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Totally real. Not a lot of fun to deal with, either.
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So axis III diagnosis is ok ifit stems from a physical cause leading to a phycological disorder...but you claim Axis I and II are made up bullshit....so depression, anxiety, all the personality disorders are invented to sell Prozac Xanax Zoloft got it....
Catatonics are just faking it.....manic states on bipolars is red bull induced. And having Jesus speak to you on radio channel 98.9 is a miracle of the burning bush variety...
By the way nice analysing Psychos Freudian mother complex. Oh the hypocrisy is strong with this one....
I'm not analysing anybody, Psychopath clearly stated he thought his Mother was a bitch, he obviously has issues with his Mother. Just because I don't believe in mental illness, doesn't mean I am not practical. Poor relationships lead to stress, stress leads to poor functioning. Which you like to call depression, anxiety etc These types of emotions are normal reactions to shitty environments. You take a LION from the wild and put him in a cage, he shows signs of stress, anxiety etc. is the LION mentally ill, of course not, this is a normal reaction to a shitty environment.
Not everybody is equipped to cope with such an unnatural environment, many people live in poor conditions, have terrible relationships and few resources, this is not the way humans are supposed to live. People who react poorly to this are just showing normal reactions to shitty environments. When they first started investigating Schizophrenia, they discovered, the problem was almost always the family of origin, treating the individual like shit. Human beings aren't designed to cope with being treated like shit for long periods of time.
Anyway DR. OZ, why are you so defensive of the Psychiatric profession, are you making a fortune of conning people into believing they are mentally ill. Any profession that labelled slaves running away as mentally ill or homosexuality a mental illness has a lot to answer for. Psychiatry is an extension of the law, can you imagine someone involuntary locking you up if you were diagnosed with Cancer and refused treatment. Psychiatry has harmed far more people than it has ever helped. This is a simple fact.
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No man, i lead a normal life , and i'm a well balanced person. You sound like a fucking obese middle aged house wife f.aggot.
DON'T REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE OR TALK ABOUT ME AGAIN. FUCKING CREEP.
Say HI to your MUM for me. ;D
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I'm not analysing anybody, Psychopath clearly stated he thought his Mother was a bitch, he obviously has issues with his Mother. Just because I don't believe in mental illness, doesn't mean I am not practical. Poor relationships lead to stress, stress leads to poor functioning. Which you like to call depression, anxiety etc These types of emotions are normal reactions to shitty environments. You take a LION from the wild and put him in a cage, he shows signs of stress, anxiety etc. is the LION mentally ill, of course not, this is a normal reaction to a shitty environment.
Not everybody is equipped to cope with such an unnatural environment, many people live in poor conditions, have terrible relationships and few resources, this is not the way humans are supposed to live. People who react poorly to this are just showing normal reactions to shitty environments. When they first started investigating Schizophrenia, they discovered, the problem was almost always the family of origin, treating the individual like shit. Human beings aren't designed to cope with being treated like shit for long periods of time.
Anyway DR. OZ, why are you so defensive of the Psychiatric profession, are you making a fortune of conning people into believing they are mentally ill. Any profession that labelled slaves running away as mentally ill or homosexuality a mental illness has a lot to answer for. Psychiatry is an extension of the law, can you imagine someone involuntary locking you up if you were diagnosed with Cancer and refused treatment. Psychiatry has harmed far more people than it has ever helped. This is a simple fact.
When I reclassified from 11H (heavy anti armor weapons infantryman) in the army to 91B (medical specialist)I was given a choice to to continue and become a 91G (behavioral science specialist) which I regretfully accepted. So no I don't receive compensation, but I'm not ignorant enough to dismiss something by reading a book or some blogs online. I left psychology after less than one year of working in the field. I preferred anything other than....went back to being a medic till I ETS'ed.
Mental illness exists and is real...stating otherwise is ignorant and selfish. Schizophrenia is genetic and passed down....your lack of knowledge in this field is willfully ignorant. And I see you glossed over catatonics and manic stages of bipolar...well whatever makes your argument framed for your self benefit. LOL
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When I reclassified from 11H (heavy anti armor weapons infantryman) in the army to 91B (medical specialist)I was given a choice to to continue and become a 91G (behavioral science specialist) which I regretfully accepted. So no I don't receive compensation, but I'm not ignorant enough to dismiss something by reading a book or some blogs online. I left psychology after less than one year of working in the field. I preferred anything other than....went back to being a medic till I ETS'ed.
Mental illness exists and is real...stating otherwise is ignorant and selfish. Schizophrenia is genetic and passed down....your lack of knowledge in this field is willfully ignorant. And I see you glossed over catatonics and manic stages of bipolar...well whatever makes your argument framed for your self benefit. LOL
I don't really want to get into it, but catatonia is simply a state of extreme fear, literally scared stiff, you see this behaviour in the animal kingdom all the time when animals are presented with a serious threat (and nobody labels them schizophrenics). Life is scary and for some people they literally freeze up with fear.
As for manic phases, some people get extreme bouts of motivation and creativity, it may well be outside of the usual range for the majority, but what's wrong with that, if they aren't harming anybody. Mania is associated with extreme creativity in many famous artists, some people resist societies efforts to force them into a repetitive monotonous routines, these people probably experience more mania than most. There are also more than likely dietary and drug reactions involved as well. But what's wrong with Mania. And I dare say, If you explore humans evolution, manic phases would have been crucial to our survival.
And as for calling people who label Psychiatry as a fraud as ignorant, just show some proof. If I went to the doctor and he said I had cancer, and he could test me and show me undeniable proof of what I have, then why can't psychiatrists do this.
In spite of over a hundred years of research and many billions of dollars spent, we still have no clear evidence that schizophrenia and other related psychotic disorders are the result of a diseased brain. And yet, anyone who takes a close look at the actual research will simply not be able to honestly say otherwise. And not only does the brain disease hypothesis remain unsubstantiated, it has been directly countered by very well established findings within the recovery research, it has demonstrated itself to be particularly harmful to those so diagnosed (often leading to a self-fulfilling prophecy), and is highly profitable to the pharmaceutical and psychiatric industries (which likely plays a major role in why it has remained so deeply entrenched in society for so many years, in spite of our inability to validate it).
I think if you look at the history of psychiatry , such as labelling black slaves who ran away as suffering from drapetomania, you will get a real indication of what psychiatry is all about. It's a control mechanism to get people to conform to a rigid societal structure.
“Contemporary human problems are real enough. It is the labels we give them that concern me, and, having labelled them, what we do about them.” Ideology & Insanity, Szasz
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More Bullshit from the drug dealers who call themselves Doctors! Life has its ups and downs and your suppose to feel life not shut your mind and sould down with drugs!
You're an idiot, shut up.
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Two words, "Cartman" and "Tourettes".
It is a certainty that a medical problem or disorder may be a reason for misbehavior but it's by no means an excuse which is what the majority of people will be using this latest medical "revelation" for.
This will undoubtedly be the new ADHD. Pharmacological companies and attorneys should never have been allowed to advertise. Cigarette companies were taken out prior to the rise of the peddlers and ambalance chasers.
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Totally real. Not a lot of fun to deal with, either.
Jack Benny did not have this problem.
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Guys on here arguing about who's right with regard to mental illness diagnosis. ;D
Its like the two smelly kids in school arguing over who stinks the most/least.
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Life is tough deal with it and grow Stronger!
Hey Mayor go back to M.D. where everyone thinks you're a nice guy you ignorant fuck!
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If the chemicals in our brains become imbalanced, then we have problems.
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what if someone had that tourettes disorder where they couldn't stop swearing or making involuntary movements? that's just made up too?
That's totally different is not a growing "decease " plus people who suffer from it really go thru embarrassing situations.
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Interesting thread, and great points made by most..E-Kul is right on point with his thoughts, but they are not practical for society today...We must all remain productive...Schizophren ics were shamans back in the day which was a well respected "career" , but there is no place for that in today's world..
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That's totally different is not a growing "decease " plus people who suffer from it really go thru embarrassing situations.
yeah, cuz I was gonna say who would even try to fake tourettes. those people get made fun of more than any other illness on tv. pretty much gurantee you won't have any relationships,
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Interesting thread, and great points made by most..E-Kul is right on point with his thoughts, but they are not practical for society today...We must all remain productive...Schizophren ics were shamans back in the day which was a well respected "career" , but there is no place for that in today's world..
Mike Tyson used his Bipolar Illness in the ring! Just doesn't work out to well away from the ring ,unless you are training for a fight!
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yeah, cuz I was gonna say who would even try to fake tourettes. those people get made fun of more than any other illness on tv. pretty much gurantee you won't have any relationships,
Imagine two folks in a relationship, both with Tourette's syndrome. I think it would be better than a couple where they both have Bi-polar disorder, narcissistic personality disorder, or schizophrenia. Everyone is a little nuts sometimes....that I can live with.
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Psychiatry is hardly an exact science but crazy people still exist.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/may/12/medicine-dsm5-row-does-mental-illness-exist
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Psychiatry is hardly an exact science but crazy people still exist.
More than you know.
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There is no such thing as 'NORMAL', Normal is a cycle on a washing machine. That's the whole point, that's why Mental Illness is such bunk, they are trying to fit everyone into a box.
I like your analogy of what is normal. Mental illness is not bunk though.
My aunt was schizophrenic. She gave up her apartment to live on the streets in Venice Beach and sometimes Hollywood, CA, by choice. The interesting thing is she lived longer than all of her siblings....guess there is something to be said for street life in the right climate. Being crazy probably helps a little too.
She was my favorite aunt. She could be a lot of fun to be around. In good times, she was quite the free spirit. She didn't much like it when she was institutionalized at the California state mental hospital in Camarillo or in the West L.A. VA hospital psyche ward, mainly because they'd drug her up and she'd lose all her energy. She died a few years ago. She was 84 years old.
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was she a paranoid, catatonic, or disorganized schizophrenic?
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I like your analogy of what is normal. Mental illness is not bunk though.
My aunt was schizophrenic. She gave up her apartment to live on the streets in Venice Beach and sometimes Hollywood, CA, by choice. The interesting thing is she lived longer than all of her siblings....guess there is something to be said for street life in the right climate. Being crazy probably helps a little too.
She was my favorite aunt. She could be a lot of fun to be around. In good times, she was quite the free spirit. She didn't much like it when she was institutionalized at the California state mental hospital in Camarillo or in the West L.A. VA hospital psyche ward, mainly because they'd drug her up and she'd lose all her energy. She died a few years ago. She was 84 years old.
You answered it best, she was a FREE SPIRIT- Free spirits don't do well in an authoritarian do the fuck as your told system. Interesting you point out she lived longer than her siblings, perhaps she was unto something. And the fact you preferred her over your other Relations in also of note.
I am not saying so called 'Crazy' doesn't exist, to quote Thomas Szasz “Contemporary human problems are real enough. It is the labels we give them that concern me, and, having labelled them, what we do about them.” Ideology & Insanity
Schizophrenia to me is more of an existential crisis, people get to a point whereby there current belief systems and way of life no longer hold the value the once did, they have proven ineffective or outdated, usually exposed by some trauma and they are struggling to develop a better paradigm on how to live their life. Like a caterpillar becoming a butterfly, it needs to shed parts of itself and modify others and emerge as something different based on the original.
The recovery rate with schizophrenia is remarkably high, another argument for it not being a real brain disease. A lot of people don't realise that the drugs used to treat it actually cause some serious brain damage. Usually with a supportive environment and little to no medication so called schizophrenics fully recover. A big problem with anybody with mental illness is they lack a supportive environment, everybody is too wrapped up in their own lives. A lot of so called mental illness is nothing more than an indication of how shitty a place society has become to live in, modern society isn't normal or healthy, and the so called mentally ill are a reflection of that.
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You answered it best, she was a FREE SPIRIT- Free spirits don't do well in an authoritarian do the fuck as your told system. Interesting you point out she lived longer than her siblings, perhaps she was unto something. And the fact you preferred her over your other Relations in also of note.
Have you spent some time in the psych ward E-Kul?
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Have you spent some time in the psych ward E-Kul?
I haven't spent time in the psyche ward, but on two separate occasions I have had run-ins with the Police, mouthed off and got in verbal arguments with them. Because they were unable to charge me with a crime they slapped a Section 10 on me (in Australia that means involuntary admission), which is another form of punishment (which is worse than other punishments as you aren't even afforded the right of due process as in other criminal matters), they can hold you for 24 hours while they organise a psyche evaluation, if after that time the Psychiatrist says you are good to go and that there is nothing wrong with you they have to let you go. Both times I was held until I saw a quack, and then they let me go.
Like I said, psychiatry is another extension of the law, it has little to do with medicine or healing. Section 10's (involuntary admission) happen all the time, if the police want to punish you but have little to charge you with but still want to teach you a lesson, they slap a section 10 on you (all it takes is for a Police officer to suspect you are mentally ill). During that time the Hospital can restrain you and drug you if they like. This is just one of the reasons I am against psychiatry, Involuntary admission is a crime against humanity.
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Same thing in Florida there is The Baker Act! Where the Police can do it, or you or your family can have you held! It is for 36 hours if it is determined if you are a threat to yourself or others!
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Same thing in Florida there is The Baker Act! Where the Police can do it, or you or your family can have you held! It is for 36 hours if it is determined if you are a threat to yourself or others!
It truly is a crime against humanity, a lot of people have no idea about it, I know I didn't until the Police did it to me. After that i investigated psychiatry and was disturbed by what I found. I soon realised how it has been used as a political tool to oppress dissent and even during NAZI Germany, a lot of the horror was committed by Psychiatrists who decided who lived and who died. Psychiatrists during that time killed hundreds of thousands of people, There were six psychiatric extermination centers in Germany during the Nazi era. After the war was over, Psychiatry itself was put on trial, but the Americans were so concerned about tarnishing the reputation of Psychiatry (as well as it's use a powerful control tool) they scapegoated a few psychiatrists and Psychiatry came out relatively unscathed. It is a sick sick industry, and when you investigate it, it makes your stomach churn.
When you consider Psychiatry's history and the classification of Drapetomania which was a supposed mental illness described by American physician Samuel A. Cartwright in 1851 that caused black slaves to flee captivity. In addition to identifying drapetomania, Cartwright prescribed a remedy. His feeling was that with "proper medical advice, strictly followed, this troublesome practice that many Negroes have of running away can be almost entirely prevented." In the case of slaves "sulky and dissatisfied without cause" — a warning sign of imminent flight — Cartwright prescribed "whipping the devil out of them" as a "preventative measure". As a remedy for this disease, doctors also made running a physical impossibility by prescribing the removal of both big toes.
Not hard to see what a perverse branch of law this is, slaves running away are mentally ill, and a whipping and big toe removal is the cure. Psychiatry at it's finest. look up some of the other ingenious methods they have of treating those unfortunate enough to be labelled mentally ill, lobotomies and electric shock therapy, just to name a few. This isn't a field of medicine, it's a sadistic form of punishing those that society disproves of. It's a modern day version of witch burning.
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It also has it's good points it can be used to save lives if not abused!
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It also has it's good points it can be used to save lives if not abused!
As long as it's voluntary. trust me, psychiatry has killed far more people than it has ever helped. Far more. Don't believe me look it up, do some research. Psychiatry is masquerading as medicine, don't believe the hype. it is a political tool that Governments have constantly used to suppress dissent since it's inception. The government want you to believe it is benign and harmless (try attacking the psychiatric profession and they will conveniently label you mentally ill, once they slap that label on you, they destroy your credibility, that's the whole point) it really is a very harmful and powerful tool that Governments utilise. If you are interested in researching the issue, start with Thomas Szasz, he was Psychiatrically trained but spoke out about the industry for his whole life, well into his nineties, he wrote many books on the matter. In my eyes, people like him are heroes.
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Hey Mayor go back to M.D. where everyone thinks you're a nice guy you ignorant fuck!
I may be ignorant but I don't need no Quack drug dealer doctor to give me drugs! Life is hard deal with it! Take up a hobby and understand its a test this life!
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Mike Tyson used his Bipolar Illness in the ring! Just doesn't work out to well away from the ring ,unless you are training for a fight!
Mike Tyson is a CONVICTED RAPIST! fUCK HIM HE IS A COWARD!
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Jesus are you this much of a blowhard asshole in real life ?
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Some days I believe it's the worst illness in the world, others I don't believe it exists at all.
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Yes. I am.
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Yes. I am.
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I may be ignorant but I don't need no Quack drug dealer doctor to give me drugs! Life is hard deal with it! Take up a hobby and understand its a test this life!
Don't you have an autistic son? Have you ever taken him to a Dr ie Psychiatrist? Is that were your opinions come from?
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There is no such thing as mental illness. Psychiatry is an extension of the law (not medicine) and a way to sell shit loads of drugs. It's always about behaviour that others find objectionable (generally those in power), not illness at all, real illness can be found at autopsy, mental illness is just a bunch of bullshit voted on by pseudo doctors in white coats with a vested interest in selling overpriced quackery and drugs. The DSM is now so full of invented conditions that it covers the whole planets population. The average person could easily be slotted into at least 5 Psychiatric diagnoses.
Lol dude,
I work in a closed psychiatric hospital. Are you telling me the schizo's who are brought in on daily basis who set the neighbours house on fire, cut the power supply and hammer nail their windows shut are just playing a prank :-X??
Bipolar is very real, also stay away from any chick with a personality disorder.
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I once had a Bi-polar Boss........the job was easy, but that Boss made it a living hell, but his Superiors never knew he was Bi-polar until some people started to point it out. evidently, he seeked treatment and there was improvement, by that time, lots of people quitted..... :)...
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Lol dude,
I work in a closed psychiatric hospital. Are you telling me the schizo's who are brought in on daily basis who set the neighbours house on fire, cut the power supply and hammer nail their windows shut are just playing a prank :-X??
Bipolar is very real, also stay away from any chick with a personality disorder.
You have been very general and vague in your analysis of your so called schizophrenic patients (perhaps because you have little real information yourself). Things like nailing your windows shut is a lot of places is common place, hardly unusual, and someone burning down their neighbours house is not in any way crazy, perhaps the neighbour really pissed them off, and as for cutting off the power supply, it would be hard to comment on why someone did such a thing without more information. There is no doubt some people experience trying times in their life, and what I am saying is that at various times in a individuals life some people experience existential angst usually brought on by some crisis or trauma, I don't know that labelling such temporary states as mentally ill is an accurate assessment of the situation, and quite often the treatment (involuntary commitment, damaging drug regimes) of these so called mentally ill people is what creates the majority of distress in the person in the first place.
“Contemporary human problems are real enough. It is the labels we give them that concern me, and, having labelled them, what we do about them.” Ideology & Insanity, Szasz
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Labelling someone as mentally ill is a perfectly acceptable use of the term 'ill' E-Kul. Why do you even bother writing paragraphs of nonsense trying to go against the norm?
If someone is suffering an acute breakdown, that can be rehabilitated through rest/counselling etc it's perfectly feasible to lable them as being 'mentally ill' for that period. They weren't sick physically, so it's fine to call them sick mentally.
Obviously there are different degrees of illness.
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Labelling someone as mentally ill is a perfectly acceptable use of the term 'ill' E-Kul. Why do you even bother writing paragraphs of nonsense trying to go against the norm?
If someone is suffering an acute breakdown, that can be rehabilitated through rest/counselling etc it's perfectly feasible to lable them as being 'mentally ill' for that period. They weren't sick physically, so it's fine to call them sick mentally.
Obviously there are different degrees of illness.
I have no problem with someone being treated for any condition that bothers them, my objection is against involuntary treatment against a patients will. When the label 'ILL' is thrust upon them and a forced treatment applied. Personally I think people who PRAY to a fictional GOD as suffering from some type of mental illness, would you accept that label if me and a bunch of people with power voted on it and labelled it mental illness. Would you be happy for those who pray regularly to be locked away against their will and lobotomies performed as a cure. I give you the benefit of the doubt and accept that you believe that would be an abuse of power.
Any-time you deprive someone of their liberty under the guise of helping them it is a punishment and can only worsen any initial distress they were initially suffering. Hence the reason people who ESCAPE so called treatment label themselves psychiatric survivors. Torturing people and calling it treatment is a crime against humanity. It is ALWAYS about POWER and nothing more. Imagine I was granted the power to lock away anybody I deemed 'mentally ill', half of GETBIG would be recovering from a recent lobotomy while drooling their mashed potato down their straight jacket as we speak.
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I have no problem with someone being treated for any condition that bothers them, my objection is against involuntary treatment against a patients will. When the label 'ILL' is thrust upon them and a forced treatment applied. Personally I think people who PRAY to a fictional GOD as suffering from some type of mental illness, would you accept that label if me and a bunch of people with power voted on it and labelled it mental illness. Would you be happy for those who pray regularly to be locked away against their will and lobotomies performed as a cure. I give you the benefit of the doubt and accept that you believe that would be an abuse of power.
Any-time you deprive someone of their liberty under the guise of helping them it is a punishment and can only worsen any initial distress they were initially suffering. hence the reason people who survive so called treatment label themselves psychiatric survivors. Torturing people and calling it treatment is a crime against humanity. It is ALWAYS about POWER and nothing more. Imagine I was granted the power to lock away anybody I deemed 'mentally ill', half of GETBIG would be recovering from a recent lobotomy while drooling their mashed potato down their straight jacket as we speak.
Meltdown.
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Meltdown.
Somehow I sensed you weren't interesting in debating the topic. The average getbigger is more interested in trying to illicit a reaction from me rather than discussing a topic of Interest. Oh well. ::) If only the average get-bigger could get past their butt hurt interesting debates could be had.
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Somehow I sensed you weren't interesting in debating the topic. The average getbigger is more interested in trying to illicit a reaction from me rather than discuss the topic. Oh well. ::)
Meltdown.
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Meltdown.
I suspect you are joking so whatever dude! The labelling of anything others object with as a MELTDOWN has seriously undermined what a real meltdown is. I consider myself an honest fellow, if I was to meltdown I would have no problem admitting to it. That's fine if you choose to see my opinions as a MELTDOWN, but for me they are far from that, I simply come from a standpoint of manifesting my opinions based on what is in my own best interests, best increases my chances of self preservation. So when discussing any issue, I always imagine what would something would feel like if it were to happen to me and argue from that stand point.
I don't deliberately go out of my way to provoke anybody, it's just that the average civilian mindset is incredibly rigid and essentially deeply indoctrinated. I am always amazed how often the majority have very little insight into the deeper nature of reality and corporate and political processes. Some seem to be on the right path with their paranoid suspicions of their government, but they seem to have misdirected their energy into the wrong sphere. Sadly, this is the nature of indoctrination and propaganda, it is a very insidious virus indeed. The average indoctrinated psyche isn't equipped to deal with anything that challenges their belief structure, they find it incredibly threatening and go on the attack. I am aware this is what others are doing, getting defensive and defending their long cherished beliefs and opinions. I am always open to counter arguments, but unfortunately, most peoples beliefs are based on one sided thinking, they haven't even considered an alternative point of view, they simply don't have a counter argument to offer, so they simply resort to personal attacks.
Essentially, the majority are cowards and not prepared to say what they think, feel and believe and essentially are just doing what they are told to do. Most people just take things on face values, and never investigate the reality of something, sometimes it is only when they experience the reality of something that they are forced to learn the true nature of it. They have been conditioned well and indoctrinated to obey authority at every turn (most of the people are even unaware of this conditioning, believing themselves to be some type of independent thinker). I consider life precious, and way too short to just repeat other peoples thoughts and feelings, what is important is to be true to myself, regardless of the social cost. How I feel about me is far more important than what others think of me.
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Meltdown.
Hahaha
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is e-kul a troll
if he is well played
if he isnt
fuck :o
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I suspect you are joking so whatever dude! The labelling of anything others object with as a MELTDOWN has seriously undermined what a real meltdown is. I consider myself an honest fellow, if I was to meltdown I would have no problem admitting to it. That's fine if you choose to see my opinions as a MELTDOWN, but for me they are far from that, I simply come from a standpoint of manifesting my opinions based on what is in my own best interests, best increases my chances of self preservation. So when discussing any issue, I always imagine what would something would feel like if it were to happen to me and argue from that stand point.
I don't deliberately go out of my way to provoke anybody, it's just that the average civilian mindset is incredibly rigid and essentially deeply indoctrinated. I am always amazed how often the majority have very little insight into the deeper nature of reality and corporate and political processes. Some seem to be on the right path with their paranoid suspicions of their government, but they seem to have misdirected their energy into the wrong sphere. Sadly, this is the nature of indoctrination and propaganda, it is a very insidious virus indeed.
Essentially, the majority are cowards and not prepared to say what they think, feel and believe and essentially are just doing what they are told to do. Most people just take things on face values, and never investigate the reality of something, sometimes it is only when they experience the reality of something that they are forced to learn the true nature of it. They have been conditioned well and indoctrinated to obey authority at every turn (most of the people are even unaware of this conditioning, believing themselves to be some type of independent thinker). I consider life precious, and way too short to just repeat other peoples thoughts and feelings, what is important is to be true to myself, regardless of the social cost. How I feel about me is far more important than what others think of me.
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lol at bi-polar. It's called PMS
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is e-kul a troll
if he is well played
if he isnt
fuck :o
You can choose to see me any way you like. I like to think I am someone unafraid to be ridiculed and tormented for my beliefs and opinions. Anybody can just be one of the crowd, be one of the boys so to speak or play politics, it takes real courage to speak ones mind and go against the grain if that is what is needed.
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You can choose to see me any way you like. I like to think I am someone unafraid to be ridiculed and tormented for my beliefs and opinions. Anybody can just be one of the crowd, be one of the boys so to speak or play politics, it takes real courage to speak ones mind and go against the grain if that is what is needed.
is that your long winded way of saying you like to smoke a pole or two
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I can't help but thinking every-time a getbigger calls MELTDOWN and posts these types of pics that this is their way of expressing their extreme butt hurt at another getbigger. It appears to be the last resort of somebody who has no arguments left and a last ditch attempt to induce a genuine meltdown. I am unsure if others have noticed yet, but I am simply impervious to Getbiggers nonsense. To me a meltdown is when one constantly attacks another getbigger, issues threats and stalk them through threads and trolls their post history, that's something I have never felt the urge to do. Personally, I barely ever notice the name of a poster, I am always focused on what their message is. The only time I have remembered any names from here is when they have stalked me and constantly publicly expressed how much I have caused them excessive butt hurt.
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is that your long winded way of saying you like to smoke a pole or two
I am not gay, but I have nothing against homosexuals. Once again, if I was inclined to want to smoke poles I wouldn't have a problem admitting it. I am a believer that extremely homophobic people are repressed homosexuals. Getbig is home to many homophobes :o
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I can't help but thinking every-time a getbigger calls MELTDOWN and posts these types of pics that this is their way of expressing their extreme butt hurt at another getbigger. It appears to be the last resort of somebody who has no arguments left and a last ditch attempt to induce a genuine meltdown. I am unsure if others have noticed yet, but I am simply impervious to Getbiggers nonsense. To me a meltdown is when one constantly attacks another getbigger, issues threats and stalk them through threads and trolls their post history, that's something I have never felt the urge to do. Personally, I barely ever notice the name of a poster, I am always focused on what their message is. The only time I have remembered any names from here is when they have stalked me and constantly publicly expressed how much I have caused them excessive butt hurt.
Dude, you are a walking meltdown! I post the baby gif, because I think it is adorable. Plus my shtick is posting familiar pics.
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Dude, you are a walking meltdown! I post the baby gif, because I think it is adorable. Plus my shtick is posting familiar pics.
You obviously have a vastly different opinion to me of what a meltdown is. To me people expressing opinions that differ from my own wouldn't be considered a meltdown. You seem to find anything you object too as a meltdown. I merely expressed my opinion on the psychiatric profession and you call 'MELTDOWN', it's ludicrous, not only does it stifle any real debate and derail a thread, it's pretty juvenile. It's obviously an attempt to illicit some type of negative reaction, but that shit doesn't really work with me. You want to illicit a reaction, try formulating a reasonable and rational argument, that would be a good place to start.
Now if I went on a rant saying all psychiatrists should be killed and those who believe in mental illness should be locked up and on and on etc then I would have no objection in people claiming meltdown. But to make such an assumption because someone else is expressing their opinion is essentially laughable.
I always like to address anyone who directs a comment at me,this is how I determine their character. I like to see how people deal with conflict, what they do when others confront their accusations and crazy beliefs There comes a time though when I eventually asses someone's character and I have to wonder if the other party is on my level, if they are even worth conversing with. You have reached that point with me, you simply aren't on my level, this is not a personal attack, but a simple observation. I am still more than willing to respond to your posts, but due to your nature, they probably won't reach any great intellectual heights.
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E-Kul are you or have you ever been on any mood stabilizers, tranquilizers or anti psychotics? Just curious!
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You obviously have a vastly different opinion to me of what a meltdown is. To me people expressing opinions that differ from my own wouldn't be considered a meltdown. You seem to find anything you object too as a meltdown. I merely expressed my opinion on the psychiatric profession and you call 'MELTDOWN', it's ludicrous, not only does it stifle any real debate and derail a thread, it's pretty juvenile. It's obviously an attempt to illicit some type of negative reaction, but that shit doesn't really work with me. You want to illicit a reaction, try formulating a reasonable and rational argument, that would be a good place to start.
Now if I went on a rant saying all psychiatrists should be killed and those who believe in mental illness should be locked up and on and on etc then I would have no objection in people claiming meltdown. But to make such an assumption because someone else is expressing their opinion is essentially laughable.
I always like to address anyone who directs a comment at me,this is how I determine their character. I like to see how people deal with conflict, what they do when others confront their accusations and crazy beliefs There comes a time though when I eventually asses someone's character and I have to wonder if the other party is on my level, if they are even worth conversing with. You have reached that point with me, you simply aren't on my level, this is not a personal attack, but a simple observation. I am still more than willing to respond to your posts, but due to your nature, they probably won't reach any great intellectual heights.
I applaud you. That is also why I defend you whenever someone calls for you to be banned. You make for great conversations/debates. You are a big part of what makes Getbig a great site.
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You can choose to see me any way you like. I like to think I am someone unafraid to be ridiculed and tormented for my beliefs and opinions. Anybody can just be one of the crowd, be one of the boys so to speak or play politics, it takes real courage to speak ones mind and go against the grain if that is what is needed.
Yes. You are truly Getbig's moral champion.
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E-Kul are you or have you ever been on any mood stabilizers, tranquilizers or anti psychotics? Just curious!
I have taken anti depressants before, like most of the population, but only for a short time and they had little affect other than to make me feel agitated or hyper, they affected my sleep so I discontinued them. In my late teens, early to mid twenties I smoked cannabis daily and occasionally indulged in recreational use of stimulants. Outside of that I have been a very sober individual, I spent over a decade completely drug free, no caffeine, no alcohol, no medication and no recreational drugs. Recently I did revise my no drug policy and for a while heavily indulged in cannabis again. But it was short lived, although I quite enjoy the effect of cannabis the heavy smoke had too great a detrimental affect on my lungs, so I stopped. I have been drug free again for over a year with the exception of one coffee in the morning.
I tend to avoid drugs at all costs, even paracetamol and aspirin if I can. I still take things like anti-inflammatory if I need too, I just try and minimise it. Actually, only today I had my first cortisone injection into my shoulder. My bursa has been inflamed and hurting real bad. I even stopped training thinking it would heal, but it didn't, so I reluctantly got the jab in the hope I can return to training. I can't believe the cost of it, it cost me $190. I sure hope it does work.
Up until the last few years I had experienced exceptional good health, even through years of abuse. I guess time has a way of creeping up on you. I am 40 years old, and although still in good overall health, the aging process is starting to slowly rear it's ugly head.
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Yes. You are truly Getbig's moral champion.
Thanks ;D but seriously, morality plays little part in it, Self preservation is the main motivating factor in my decision making.
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In my late teens, early to mid twenties I smoked cannabis daily...
My nephew has gotten into the habit of smoking cannabis daily (he calls it a night time sleep aid). What long term effects did you notice from chronic marijuana use?
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I am not gay, but I have nothing against homosexuals. Once again, if I was inclined to want to smoke poles I wouldn't have a problem admitting it. I am a believer that extremely homophobic people are repressed homosexuals. Getbig is home to many homophobes :o
joking isnt the same as being phobic
i thought you copy and paste intellectual types would get that
or are you too busy playing the purple trombone
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My nephew has gotten into the habit of smoking cannabis daily (he calls it a night time sleep aid). What long term effects did you notice from chronic marijuana use?
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Did you still get him the gifts that he wanted?
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My nephew has gotten into the habit of smoking cannabis daily (he calls it a night time sleep aid). What long term effects did you notice from chronic marijuana use?
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Extreme weight gain from Cheetos.....
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Yes. You are truly Getbig's moral champion.
Ironside was a good show.
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is that your long winded way of saying you like to smoke a pole or two
E-Kul's only ever given 2 BJ's, but spent 2 years arguing online about which cock he enjoyed more and why.
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Did you still get him the gifts that he wanted?
If he works hard for them (goes to school, gets high grades and keeps out of trouble), then typically yes. If it's something too lavish, I say no.
Extreme weight gain from Cheetos.....
If that's the worst long term effect, I guess he will be fine.
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If that's the worst long term effect, I guess he will be fine.
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I do not have any experience on the matter, but many people have said that weed is a gateway drug. One, I suggest one more face to face talk. I know you are smart enough to get your point across. It is up to him to listen.
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My nephew has gotten into the habit of smoking cannabis daily (he calls it a night time sleep aid). What long term effects did you notice from chronic marijuana use?
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Definitely during the long term use, short term memory was a problem. And of course, feeling lethargic can be a problem, it really depends on the strain and the volume of consumption. But for me, it wasn't such a problem, as a younger man, I had so much nervous energy, marijuana actually helped calm me to what others would call a manageable level. I actually had no problem performing physical work when younger while under the influence, of course I learned to moderate consumption depending on what I was doing. As for now that I have stopped, I don't think it has had a long term affect on my memory when compared to those who have never smoked, I have even received compliments on my ability to retain certain information and some people have suggested I have a photographic memory (which I don't believe I have, but the compliment did surprise me) and as for my intellectual ability, it maybe knocked off a few IQ points, but I still get complimented on my mind and my ability to create a reasonable argument.
I have actually experienced psychosis once from amphetamines and another time from heavy cannabis use, but as for any long term affect on mental functioning, it is hard to say (although I am sure many a getbigger will refute this, lol). As for physically, it definitely had a damaging affect on my lungs, nothing I can confirm medically, but it took me many years to achieve a cardiovascular level of health I felt comfortable with. (many years after stopping I completed the OXFAM Trailwalker - a 100KM hike through the Mountains.). If I was to do it again, I would definitely choose another method of ingestion, like eating it or using a vaporiser at the very least.
It certainly had a negative financial cost and it severely strained relations with my parents and some of my siblings, who were very strict conservatives who disowned me because of my Free Spirited ways. Their is still a modicum of a relationship there, but there isn't much love lost. I have never liked alcohol and only briefly experimented with it. The reason I liked marijuana so much was that it really did open up my mind, it forced it to break out of rigid ways of thinking and to look at the world in new and different ways. I compare myself to some of my siblings who have taken a very sober and traditional path in their lives, and we are remarkably different people, but I wouldn't trade my experience for anything. I feel like those younger years was me venturing down the rabbit hole, it opened up my mind to really scary stuff but also a beauty or profoundness, a certain indescribable depth that I don't think I would have discovered otherwise.
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My mother is a psychotic bi-polar, self absorbed complete c.unty bitch.
...yes, it's real, very fucking real.
Bro?
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More Bullshit from the drug dealers who call themselves Doctors! Life has its ups and downs and your suppose to feel life not shut your mind and sould down with drugs!
Dumbest thing ive ever read.
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My nephew has gotten into the habit of smoking cannabis daily (he calls it a night time sleep aid). What long term effects did you notice from chronic marijuana use?
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My only concern with cannabis is when your woman uses regularly and goes clubbing ladies night....
And like someone said somewhere in this thread, most bipolar women's are potheads.
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Definitely during the long term use, short term memory was a problem. And of course, feeling lethargic can be a problem, it really depends on the strain and the volume of consumption. But for me, it wasn't such a problem, as a younger man, I had so much nervous energy, marijuana actually helped calm me to what others would call a manageable level. I actually had no problem performing physical work when younger while under the influence, of course I learned to moderate consumption depending on what I was doing. As for now that I have stopped, I don't think it has had a long term affect on my memory when compared to those who have never smoked, I have even received compliments on my ability to retain certain information and some people have suggested I have a photographic memory (which I don't believe I have, but the compliment did surprise me) and as for my intellectual ability, it maybe knocked off a few IQ points, but I still get complimented on my mind and my ability to create a reasonable argument.
I have actually experienced psychosis once from amphetamines and another time from heavy cannabis use, but as for any long term affect on mental functioning, it is hard to say (although I am sure many a getbigger will refute this, lol). As for physically, it definitely had a damaging affect on my lungs, nothing I can confirm medically, but it took me many years to achieve a cardiovascular level of health I felt comfortable with. (many years after stopping I completed the OXFAM Trailwalker - a 100KM hike through the Mountains.). If I was to do it again, I would definitely choose another method of ingestion, like eating it or using a vaporiser at the very least.
It certainly had a negative financial cost and it severely strained relations with my parents and some of my siblings, who were very strict conservatives who disowned me because of my Free Spirited ways. Their is still a modicum of a relationship there, but there isn't much love lost. I have never liked alcohol and only briefly experimented with it. The reason I liked marijuana so much was that it really did open up my mind, it forced it to break out of rigid ways of thinking and to look at the world in new and different ways. I compare myself to some of my siblings who have taken a very sober and traditional path in their lives, and we are remarkably different people, but I wouldn't trade my experience for anything. I feel like those younger years was me venturing down the rabbit hole, it opened up my mind to really scary stuff but also a beauty or profoundness, a certain indescribable depth that I don't think I would have discovered otherwise.
Thank you very much for your elaborate feedback.
I am not completely opposed to my nephew using marijuana, as all of the studies I have read surrounding its use (studies after the 1990's), suggest that it's relatively benign. Even so, the idea of inhaling smoke into his lungs, at least in my mind, leads me to believe that long term damage to his lungs could occur, so I like to keep a pulse on his frequency of use.
Because all of my knowledge regarding cannabis stems mostly from studies, I like to speak to people with firsthand experience regarding its use and what they might have noticed over the long term.
Thank you once more,
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i dated a woman with precisely this bipolar thing.
shed turn batshit insane from one minute to the other.
and by insane , i mean literaly insane, making jack nicholson in shining look like a rank amateur.
even dangerous, i always avoided falling asleep while she was anywhere near.
the girl has in a hissy fit and insanity attack done the following:
-cut her inner thighs,and the maxiumum was when she has cut open her damn own neck.no joke, she did that,right before my eyes.
lol@ekul thinking no such thing exists.
meanwhile hes an advocate for rec drug legalisation, but is afraid of sober muslims and dogs.
step out of the house once in a while, crazy things and people do exist.
one friend is in a clsed psychiatry facility since many years, and rightfuly so, hes an absolute danger to society,i best not even list what kind of studff he has done.and the docs havent even gotten as far and diagnosed him as bipolar, they say hes kinda on the verge.
but the most severe change in mood i ever seen myself was from a heroin junkie who had no access to more heroin.one of these things one never forgets.
yes, psychiatry is poking in the dark, but theyre the best experts we got and thats that.there are many absolute insane people out there.
You seem to misunderstand me, I have been out with the craziest of women, trust me, bathsit crazy, The memory of some ex-girllfriends still haunt me. I can recount countless tales of absolute psycho behaviour of women. I have been out with women diagnosed with bi-polar, I have known so called schizophrenics, one of my best friends growing up was diagnosed schizophrenic and I used to work in the addiction field, so I have met many people who have been labelled psychiatriclly comorbid.
My greatest objection to the field is involuntary admission and involuntary treatment, this is cruel and unusual treatment. And what you call mental illness, I prefer to label as existential angst, a more severe case of what we all face when asking the big questions in life. I seriously question the mindset of people who regularly pray, to me I don't understand it, I have never heard a rational explanation for it, and yet because enough people do it is is considered sane. This is the problem with psychiatry, they are not diagnosing real illness, they are voting on objectionable behaviour that they don't understand and isn't necessarily in the best interest of other people or society at large,
It has eerily similar connection to religion and forced conversions. You have to question any field of endeavour that labelled slaves as mentally ill for wanting to run away and homosexuals as mentally ill. I don't think there could be any greater evidence for what Psychiatry is really about. Like I said, imagine if I was given the power to lock up anybody I deemed mentally ill, half of getbig would be recovering from a recent lobotomy, being force fed mashed potato while restrained by a straight jacket.
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Thank you very much for your elaborate feedback.
I am not completely opposed to my nephew using marijuana, as all of the studies I have read surrounding its use (studies after the 1990's), suggest that it's relatively benign. Even so, the idea of inhaling smoke into his lungs, at least in my mind, leads me to believe that long term damage to his lungs could occur, so I like to keep a pulse on his frequency of use.
Because all of my knowledge regarding cannabis stems mostly from studies, I like to speak to people with firsthand experience regarding its use and what they might have noticed over the long term.
Thank you once more,
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i can tell you from experience in the police
that long term heavy regular users slowly change over time
in terms of their sociability and a creeping sense of paranoia that invades their lives
they tend to lose their enthusiasm for life and their get up and go
its a subtle effect that creeps up on you
i would wean him off it if you can
i am being serious
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i can tell you from experience in the police
that long term heavy regular users slowly change over time
in terms of their sociability and a creeping sense of paranoia that invades their lives
they tend to lose their enthusiasm for life and their get up and go
its a subtle effect that creeps up on you
i would wean him off it if you can
i am being serious
My brother and I tried that once, but he did not budge.
We are happy that he hasn't tried any other drugs and absolutely hates alcohol and regular cigarettes.
What I am hoping will happen is that he will meet a good girl in his university, get into a casual relationship with her and hopefully she is not a fan of cannabis and pushes him to quit. Sometimes, we inadvertently side with our partners and try our best to change for the better.
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My brother and I tried that once, but he did not budge.
We are happy that he hasn't tried any other drugs and absolutely hates alcohol and regular cigarettes.
What I am hoping will happen is that he will meet a good girl in his university, get into a casual relationship with her and hopefully she is not a fan of cannabis and pushes him to quit. Sometimes, we inadvertently side with our partners and try our best to change for the better.
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it depends on his level of dependence which will be a mental thing with canabis
problem is as you know the more you try and push stuff like this the more they rebel against you
if he is smart he will probably grow out of it when it doesnt suit his lifestyle any more
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Thank you very much for your elaborate feedback.
I am not completely opposed to my nephew using marijuana, as all of the studies I have read surrounding its use (studies after the 1990's), suggest that it's relatively benign. Even so, the idea of inhaling smoke into his lungs, at least in my mind, leads me to believe that long term damage to his lungs could occur, so I like to keep a pulse on his frequency of use.
Because all of my knowledge regarding cannabis stems mostly from studies, I like to speak to people with firsthand experience regarding its use and what they might have noticed over the long term.
Thank you once more,
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It is good you take an interest in your nephew. Be careful not to be too preachy or judgemental, imagine if I started questioning all the things you enjoyed and put a moral slant on it, it doesn't bode well for harmonious relations. If you do have a moral objection to cannabis use, I believe you should simply avoid those who do it. Personally, I can't stand drunks, so I avoid Pubs, Clubs and people with what I consider serious drinking issues, I was never a party type of guy. If a friend or family member became an alcoholic, I would simply discontinue the relationship. Don't get me wrong, I have worked in the field and have a diploma in alcohol and other drugs, it's just that I simply can't tolerate people under the influence of alcohol, but those under the influence of cannabis rarely bother me. I learned long ago it's not my job to save others from themselves.
I don't really have any regrets about my cannabis use, I always tried to remain vigilant about other aspects of my mental health, exercising regularly, eating well, avoiding using harder drugs for any period of time, getting enough sleep, not pushing myself too hard, I always continued reading and learning and if anything I think for me personally, I benefited from using cannabis, it kept me from seriously going of the rails after helped with the fallout from what I considered to be a pretty abusive childhood. Fortunately for me, I began weight training for three solid years as well as a childhood full of physical activity before I tried cannabis at 19 years old. So whenever I felt I was using too much, I would sometimes have short bouts of abstinence and some intense weight training thrown in. When I eventually kicked it full time, i weight trained pretty seriously for a good two years and did lots of cardio.
Perhaps you could suggest alternative methods of ingestion for your nephew to use, there are many good cannabis butter recipes around that can be used in cooking and produce a far longer lasting and satisfying high, or even he could try a a vaporiser, they are common now and reduce the damage produced by the heavy smoke quite a lot. This shows you are concerned about his actual health and not just being a moral crusader. Treat it in the same way you would advising someone on how to train shoulders, steer them away from say upright rows to alternative exercises that are just as productive but potentially less damaging in the long run. But remember, if someone likes upright rows, you are unlikely to change their mind. Quite often, friends or family of cannabis users are almost always more concerned about someone else's pot use than the individual who is using pot. (Quite often these people have never tried the drug and have brought into the propaganda and fear surrounding it). You could explore the reasons why you find his cannabis use distressing?
Imagine I acted all annoyed and upset if you told me you drank 4 cups of coffee a day and as a result of a decades long propaganda campaign I hysterically warned you against it, that you were seriously compromising your health, would you stop drinking coffee knowing how benign it is and how ridiculous I sound. Cannabis has proven to be one of the most benign and beneficial drugs known to man. It is far less dangerous than the majority of prescription drugs on the market, one could even argue it is safer than aspirin, which when used long term causes serious physical compilations. There are many reason that pot has been banned and stigmatised, none of them have to do with health, and more do do with politics, economics and even racism.
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it depends on his level of dependence which will be a mental thing with canabis
problem is as you know the more you try and push stuff like this the more they rebel against you
if he is smart he will probably grow out of it when it doesnt suit his lifestyle any more
This is exactly the type of judgemental attitude I would steer clear of. Imagine I started questioning your use of bodybuilding supplements like creatine or caffeine and told you I thought your lifestyle was wrong and you needed to stop. What makes you think you know better than other people? What actual real life experience do you have with cannabis other than your judgemental attitude to other people who do it. This is why you and I don't get along, you are the type to believe you know what is best for other people, while more than likely ignoring all your own failings.
And as for dependence, marijuana withdrawal is mild, I have found it less problematic than caffeine withdrawal. I have known friends who are addicted to body-building and the intake of certain supplements that would have a far harder time stopping that than going without cannabis. Alcohol and benzo withdrawal are far more dangerous, and nicotine withdrawal is definitely way more uncomfortable. Like any activity, a lot of these people are taking substances because they simply enjoy them. If they do decide to stop, it is probably their usage has run it's course, the benefits are becoming less and the benefits not so often, But this can happen with any behaviour, good relationships go sour, excessive consumption of sugar leads to diabetes, many years of weight and fitness training can contribute to chronic injuries etc etc..
I often hear the regular propaganda coming from moral crusaders about cannabis use, they rarely have even tried the drug and almost always just regurgitate propaganda circulated by the mainstream. You have the typical self righteous moralistic attitude towards cannabis users, it probably helps you to believe you are some beacon of morality, they just see you as a wanker.
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This is exactly the type of judgemental attitude I would steer clear of. Imagine I started questioning your use of bodybuilding supplements like creatine or caffeine and told you I thought your lifestyle was wrong and you needed to stop. What makes you think you know better than other people? What actual real life experience do you have with cannabis other than your judgemental attitude to other people who do it. This is why you and I don't get along, you are the type to believe you know what is best for other people, while more than likely ignoring all your own failings.
And as for dependence, marijuana withdrawal is mild, I have found it less problematic than caffeine withdrawal. I have known friends who are addicted to body-building and the intake of certain supplements that would have a far harder time stopping that than going without cannabis. Alcohol and benzo withdrawal are far more dangerous, and nicotine withdrawal is definitely way more uncomfortable. Like any activity, a lot of these people are taking substances because they simply enjoy them. If they do decide to stop, it is probably their usage has run it's course, the benefits are becoming less and the benefits not so often, But this can happen with any behaviour, good relationships go sour, excessive consumption of sugar leads to diabetes, many years of weight and fitness training can contribute to chronic injuries etc etc..
I often hear the regular propaganda coming from moral crusaders about cannabis use, they rarely have even tried the drug and almost always just regurgitate propaganda circulated by the mainstream. You have the typical self righteous moralistic attitude towards cannabis users, it probably helps you to believe you are some beacon of morality, they just see you as a wanker.
judgemental how
by telling him it will run its course
you have wasted 500 words basically saying you are a clown
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Admin should cap the amount of words E-kul can post. Good lord man.
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judgemental how
by telling him it will run its course
you have wasted 500 words basically saying you are a clown
You suggested to wean him off it, like you are some moral crusader who knows what's best for other people based on your mighty wisdom. Imagine I came interfering in your life attempting to wean you of all the behaviours I considered detrimental to your health, I couldn't see you tolerating that for too long. Joe Rogan is a massive pothead and functions at a far higher level than the majority of people, he is a Black belt jujitsu practitioner, a successful comedian, tv personality and part time actor, and has an outrageously successful career as a color commentator for the biggest martial arts organisation in the world and is very active in the online world with regular podcasts. Some people are just losers with or without pot, forcing someone who would likely never amount to anything anyway, to stop something they more than likely enjoy a lot is a douchebag act and more than likely to create more problems, It is no different than forced religious conversions, it smacks of the self righteous bullshit. You want other people to stop because you have a moral objection to it, nothing to do with some altruistic motive, that's just Bullshit.
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You suggested to wean him off it, like you are some moral crusader who knows what's best for other people based on your mighty wisdom. Imagine I came interfering in your life attempting to wean you of all the behaviours I considered detrimental to your health, I couldn't see you tolerating that for too long. Joe Rogan is a massive pothead and functions at a far higher level than the majority of people, he is a Black belt jujitsu practitioner, a successful comedian, tv personality and part time actor, and has an outrageously successful career as a color commentator for the biggest martial arts organisation in the world and is very active in the online world with regular podcasts. Some people are just losers with or without pot, forcing someone who would likely never amount to anything anyway, to stop something they more than likely enjoy a lot is a douchebag act and more than likely to create more problems, It is no different than forced religious conversions, it smacks of the self righteous bullshit. You want other people to stop because you have a moral objection to it, nothing to do with some altruistic motive, that's just Bullshit.
you have a huge chip on your shoulder i read the first sentence and got bored
chill out and have a doobie :-*
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Admin should cap the amount of words E-kul can post. Good lord man.
How long did it take you to type that wordy post. I suppose if you have a one finger approach to typing, a WPM speed of 5 and a poor vocabulary, it might be a little hard to express yourself on an online forum. I suppose we could keep limit it to several word responses, like MELTDOWN, WYHI, YES, NO, DO YOU EVEN LIFT, LIGHT WEIGHT BABY, POLE SMOKER and the posting of titties and men in thongs. I imagine that would appeal to the average computer illiterate dumbbell lifting meathead, heaven forbid a conversation of any relevance might break out.
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yes omr, get him off the drug, even if its just marijuana.
ffs the jewish ppl should know better than that.
every jewish family i know this would have grave consequences for the son.
even if it was legal amnd every moron out there consumed it, smart person would stay clear away from any rec drugs.
if he has to escape reality to have fun or relax, then its safe to say his brain is fucked over.
if one cant enjoy life while sober, how much is this life worth anymore?
same for alcohol.
alc and all drugs lead all to the same path.consistently.
Galeniko your posts have been amongst the most valuable on this site.
Lately ;)
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Lots of people self medicating with Marijuana these days,if it works for you and doesn't effect your day to day routine more power to you! What ever gets you through the day! When I was in my late teens up to about 21,I smoked almost everyday! When I started getting into bodybuilding heavily, I found it counterproductive! Same with working and getting high!
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yes omr, get him off the drug, even if its just marijuana.
ffs the jewish ppl should know better than that.
every jewish family i know this would have grave consequences for the son.
even if it was legal amnd every moron out there consumed it, smart person would stay clear away from any rec drugs.
if he has to escape reality to have fun or relax, then its safe to say his brain is fucked over.
if one cant enjoy life while sober, how much is this life worth anymore?
same for alcohol.
alc and all drugs lead all to the same path.consistently.
Don't you regularly partake in ped use as well as regularly use dangerous erection medication? You didn't strike me as a natural living type of guy. And you could say the same about any behaviour you find objectionable, imagine someone saying to you that if you couldn't enjoy life without weight training there must be something wrong with you. If you need to lift weights to enjoy life, why bother right, you are probably only wearing out your joints and just putting unnecessary strain on your body and potentially causing needless injuries. And from what I have read from your gigolo lifestyle it is all about avoiding reality and genuine relationships. I hardly think the majority of getbiggers are in a position to get all righteous about how people live their lives. It's sad and sickening to watch. It never ceases to amaze me how much pot smoking bothers other people. For a guy who uses steroids and erection meds, drugs far more dangerous than pot, it does seem hypocritical to be advising people to stop using marijuana.
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I smoked marijuana a few times when in school, the feeling you get differed quite greatly for me on the type of plant and its strength.
I've tried them rolled up, in a bottle neck, in a pipe and in a bong.
The bong hits you the hardest.
If if I was chilling out with friends, it would just make me sleepy and I would eventually pass out, but this was usually after a good night of boozing as well.
Though, I found it much easier to smoke than a cigarette which made me cough.
My observations of even teenagers who smoked a lot were this:
It does permanently affect them and make them seem slower even when not smoking, it also prematurely ages their skin and makes them look older or more dried up.
Personally, I didn't like the feeling it gave me when if I was out in town. Made me feel really paranoid and my vision was exactly how its shown in the movies, slightly stutter framed with everything in the background all burring out while everything near you is super sharp. Also you feel everything in your body so much more, for some reason I could feel liquid in my ears this one time and they started to ache.
Time goes realllly slowly and you space out every now and then and yes, you do find stuff hilarious and it can be a fun time.
But depending on the type of plant, the feeling can be mild or really really strong.
Personally, I liked the cheapest quality as it was the mildest, much milder and put you in a more upbeat mood without the paranoia.
Bear in mind that these were the types grown locally, all natural and will probably be different to whats in the rest of the world.
It wasn't really my thing though and preferred to just have a few drinks instead.
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was she a paranoid, catatonic, or disorganized schizophrenic?
My guess would be paranoid schizophrenic based on stuff I witnessed her doing and saying. She didn't have memory issues other then distorting them somewhat. What is interesting about my aunt is that she had a relatively normal life until her late 30's when he husband deserted her taking all six of their kids with him. Although my cousin said there were signs when was growing up, like delusional behavior, I think the trauma of my aunts husband leaving in the way he did triggered a psychotic break from which she never recovered.
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I need cliff notes for E-Kul's posts
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There was an interesting article in today's Oregonian regarding this subject.
Shrinks, critics face off over psychiatric manual
May 15, 2013, 11:37 a.m. PDT
Says a former leader of the group: "Normal needs to be saved from powerful forces trying to convince us that we are all sick."
For more:
http://www.oregonlive.com/newsflash/index.ssf/story/shrinks-critics-face-off-over-psychiatric-manual/82ad3f8faee04f38a968f3d3562d432e
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They just need to start lifting and it will be ok.
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You have been very general and vague in your analysis of your so called schizophrenic patients (perhaps because you have little real information yourself). Things like nailing your windows shut is a lot of places is common place, hardly unusual, and someone burning down their neighbours house is not in any way crazy, perhaps the neighbour really pissed them off, and as for cutting off the power supply, it would be hard to comment on why someone did such a thing without more information. There is no doubt some people experience trying times in their life, and what I am saying is that at various times in a individuals life some people experience existential angst usually brought on by some crisis or trauma, I don't know that labelling such temporary states as mentally ill is an accurate assessment of the situation, and quite often the treatment (involuntary commitment, damaging drug regimes) of these so called mentally ill people is what creates the majority of distress in the person in the first place.
“Contemporary human problems are real enough. It is the labels we give them that concern me, and, having labelled them, what we do about them.” Ideology & Insanity, Szasz
Ofcourse you have to seek logic behind their actions otherwise you would be forced to admit you're wrong on psychiatry.
I would like to hear an explanation from you regarding this;
The standard paranoid type schizofrenic usually has the same standard delusion; Being spied on by the CIA/the neighbours/hari krishna/aliens etc etc. There are camera's in the house, the water has been poisoned everywhere they go etc.
Because of these delusions they start doing dangerous stuff to themselves and others and the cops get involved. In the police cell they notice that the person is talking the craziest stuff imaginable and a psychiatrist gets brought in> diagnosis> psych institute and treatments begins.
There they either accept medication (usually not) or get it forced. In the department the first days/week the talk about the delusions stay but after a week of meds the person becomes more relaxed, trusts things around him again and all of a sudden the worries about camera's the cia etc etc are gone and they continu their life.
Please tell me, how is it possible?
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Ofcourse you have to seek logic behind their actions otherwise you would be forced to admit you're wrong on psychiatry.
I would like to hear an explanation from you regarding this;
The standard paranoid type schizofrenic usually has the same standard delusion; Being spied on by the CIA/the neighbours/hari krishna/aliens etc etc. There are camera's in the house, the water has been poisoned everywhere they go etc.
Because of these delusions they start doing dangerous stuff to themselves and others and the cops get involved. In the police cell they notice that the person is talking the craziest stuff imaginable and a psychiatrist gets brought in> diagnosis> psych institute and treatments begins.
There they either accept medication (usually not) or get it forced. In the department the first days/week the talk about the delusions stay but after a week of meds the person becomes more relaxed, trusts things around him again and all of a sudden the worries about camera's the cia etc etc are gone and they continu their life.
Please tell me, how is it possible?
Once again you are being very vague, to really address the issue you need to maybe cite a specific case. And delusion doesn't seem to be grounds for Involuntary commitment. Personally I find those who believe in a god and talk to him regularly are incredibly delusional. Should those people be locked away, or because this delusion is so commonly shared, is this why it is considered OK. And as for feelings of paranoia and being watched, their are legitimate concerns for this in our modern society that is now heavily littered with CCTV's, Internet activity being watched and illegal phone taps being regularly used. Same with the water, it has been fluoridated for a long time, and depending on what research you want to believe, it may not be such a good thing for human health. This types of issues when they become distressing speak volumes about the patients feeling of having little control over their environment and little to no choice in such matters. These issues are of great importance in the scheme of existential questioning. I am not saying those claiming they are being watched or spied on are correct or not delusional, but their thinking is based on some truth. There are plenty of things that need to be explored deeply to get to the root of it, simply dismissing people as crazy because you don't understand what they are trying to communicate is a big part of the problem.
And often those who are institutionalised do whatever it takes to get out, so they learn to play the game and tell the Psychiatrist what they want to hear. If they commit a crime they should be afforded due process like anybody else. To be locked away for talking nonsense to themselves is a crime. Like I said, if talking nonsense to ones self was a mental illness, the majority of the worlds religious people would have to be locked up. It never occurs to the powers that be that the so called mentally ill person is displaying a normal reaction to being overpowered with force, held and drugged against their will and not given due process in regards to their involuntary incarceration. You attempt this type of display of power with any so called normal person and watch them meltdown dramatically. Let me judge you mentally unwell and then force-you at gunpoint away from your home, deliver you handcuffed into a psyche ward, strap you to a restraint bed and then drug you up if you don't comply with my diagnosis and then hold you indefinitely. I guarantee I could have you babbling bullshit to yourself by the end of the day.
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The mentally ill are everywhere. One may be posting in this very thread. Stay vigilant.
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The mentally ill are everywhere. One may be posting in this very thread. Stay vigilant.
Are you OK Tapeworm, it sounds like you might be suffering from paranoid delusions again. :o ;D
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Once again you are being very vague, to really address the issue you need to maybe cite a specific case. And delusion doesn't seem to be grounds for Involuntary commitment. Personally I find those who believe in a god and talk to him regularly are incredibly delusional. Should those people be locked away, or because this delusion is so commonly shared, is this why it is considered OK. And as for feelings of paranoia and being watched, their are legitimate concerns for this in our modern society that is now heavily littered with CCTV's, Internet activity being watched and illegal phone taps being regularly used. Same with the water, it has been fluoridated for a long time, and depending on what research you want to believe, it may not be such a good thing for human health. This types of issues when they become distressing speak volumes about the patients feeling of having little control over their environment and little to no choice in such matters. These issues are of great importance in the scheme of existential questioning. I am not saying those claiming they are being watched or spied on are correct or not delusional, but their thinking is based on some truth. There are plenty of things that need to be explored deeply to get to the root of it, simply dismissing people as crazy because you don't understand what they are trying to communicate is a big part of the problem.
And often those who are institutionalised do whatever it takes to get out, so they learn to play the game and tell the Psychiatrist what they want to hear. If they commit a crime they should be afforded due process like anybody else. To be locked away for talking nonsense to themselves is a crime. Like I said, if talking nonsense to ones self was a mental illness, the majority of the worlds religious people would have to be locked up. It never occurs to the powers that be that the so called mentally ill person is displaying a normal reaction to being overpowered with force, held and drugged against their will and not given due process in regards to their involuntary incarceration. You attempt this type of display of power with any so called normal person and watch them meltdown dramatically. Let me judge you mentally unwell and then force-you at gunpoint away from your home, deliver you handcuffed into a psyche ward, strap you to a restraint bed and then drug you up if you don't comply with my diagnosis and then hold you indefinitely. I guarantee I could have you babbling bullshit to yourself by the end of the day.
Ok, let me clarify one thing; people will not be locked up against their will for simply having delusions or hallucinations. They HAVE to engage in either self harming behavior or be violent/dangerous to others in order to be locked up against there will. We have even send patients home untreated because they like the voices in their head (a guy heard five girls talk to him the whole day long for example which he found pleasant and didnt make him engage in behavior which is forbidden by the law).
Let me then describe you a case;
Paranoid schizofrenic woman has been admitted over 30+ times. Always the same story; the neighbours break in, she has poisoning delusions, smells gass everywhere. The woman has moved a gazillion amount of times yet these ''problems'' always come back. When things get so bad she usually try's to burn the neighbours house down or something like that and gets brought in by the cops.
The first few days she's completely out of it; cant differentiate night and day thinks everyone is telling lies when we say its 8am or something. She has smelling hallucinations; smells gas and dead bodies everywhere (let me assure you, there are no gas leaks and no dead bodies in the department). She doesn't trust anyone thinks people are going to poison her; food water etc (even though that hasnt happened the past 30 stays at the hospital). She has strange body sensations; thinks people can control her hands (haha try rationalizing that one).
Anyways the dangerous behavior continues and she gets forced medication (because she refuses pills). A good week later she doesnt have ANY of the above described symptomns anymore is super relaxed leaves the department during the day and comes back. Week later is fired from the hospital and continues life. This will go all good for a month or three untill she stops medication (she thinks they are not necessary) and the cycle starts over.
Ofcourse this is an extreme case of a chronic patient who will never have insight to her own sickness. There are people who have one psychotic episode and realise they will need the meds for life when they are better. Those live a happy life and will not be found in a clinique anymore.
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Ok, let me clarify one thing; people will not be locked up against their will for simply having delusions or hallucinations. They HAVE to engage in either self harming behavior or be violent/dangerous to others in order to be locked up against there will. We have even send patients home untreated because they like the voices in their head (a guy heard five girls talk to him the whole day long for example which he found pleasant and didnt make him engage in behavior which is forbidden by the law).
Let me then describe you a case;
Paranoid schizofrenic woman has been admitted over 30+ times. Always the same story; the neighbours break in, she has poisoning delusions, smells gass everywhere. The woman has moved a gazillion amount of times yet these ''problems'' always come back. When things get so bad she usually try's to burn the neighbours house down or something like that and gets brought in by the cops.
The first few days she's completely out of it; cant differentiate night and day thinks everyone is telling lies when we say its 8am or something. She has smelling hallucinations; smells gas and dead bodies everywhere (let me assure you, there are no gas leaks and no dead bodies in the department). She doesn't trust anyone thinks people are going to poison her; food water etc (even though that hasnt happened the past 30 stays at the hospital). She has strange body sensations; thinks people can control her hands (haha try rationalizing that one).
Anyways the dangerous behavior continues and she gets forced medication (because she refuses pills). A good week later she doesnt have ANY of the above described symptomns anymore is super relaxed leaves the department during the day and comes back. Week later is fired from the hospital and continues life. This will go all good for a month or three untill she stops medication (she thinks they are not necessary) and the cycle starts over.
Ofcourse this is an extreme case of a chronic patient who will never have insight to her own sickness. There are people who have one psychotic episode and realise they will need the meds for life when they are better. Those live a happy life and will not be found in a clinique anymore.
I have been involuntarily admitted for simply arguing with the police when they were called over a neighbourhood dispute. I verbally gave them a hard time, but I believe it was warranted (long story). Of course I was released the next day with the psychiatrist shaking his head and obviously sick and tired of the police abusing their powers. My partners sister is a psychiatric nurse, and she often complains that involuntary admission is regularly abused by the Police. She claims a large percentage of people committed have done nothing more than piss off the police and they had little to charge them with so they involuntarily committed them. Of course I live in Australia and the system is more than likely different were you are. But after my experience of being restrained to a restraint bed and drugged I no longer have any faith in the system.
Of course the cops tried to load me up with some charges (I have a history with the police) that they had to drop them because they were simply made up. Over here the police try and intimidate the fuck out of you if you show them any attitude (stand up to them), hoping you will just roll over and plead guilty to whatever charges they throw at you. I refuse to be intimidated and stood up to them every step of the way. They try and break you and get you and plead guilty, they think they are teaching some type of school-yard bully lesson. In the end it was a stalemate, I told them to go fuck themselves, charges were dropped and they didn't break me.
I have met some of the hopeless cases you are talking about, and in some cases the current way of dealing with them will have to do. My objection is using involuntary commitment as a tool to deal with political dissent or when police misuse there power to so called teach people a lesson. After I was interviewed by a psychiatrist and I told him what had happened (it's an ongoing issue I have with local government and certain laws not being enforced for political reasons), the psychiatrist was appalled by the police's actions and 100% took my side in the matter. of course this pissed the Police off and that's when they decided to trump up some charges which they never followed through with when they realised I would fight them tooth and nail.
So like I said, it isn't always being used as some therapeutic tool, put a punitive measure when the authorities have no legal reason to detain you. Many years ago I researched the police culture here in Australia and am well aware of some of the more controversial shootings and deep in-bedded corruption and they didn't take to kindly to me reminding them of some of their own sins.
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I have been involuntarily admitted for simply arguing with the police when they were called over a neighbourhood dispute. I verbally gave them a hard time, but I believe it was warranted (long story). Of course I was released the next day with the psychiatrist shaking his head and obviously sick and tired of the police abusing their powers. My partners sister is a psychiatric nurse, and she often complains that involuntary admission is regularly abused by the Police. She claims a large percentage of people committed have done nothing more than piss off the police and they had little to charge them with so they involuntarily committed them. Of course I live in Australia and the system is more than likely different were you are. But after my experience of being restrained to a restraint bed and drugged I no longer have any faith in the system.
Of course the cops tried to load me up with some charges (I have a history with the police) that they had to drop them because they were simply made up. Over here the police try and intimidate the fuck out of you if you show them any attitude (stand up to them), hoping you will just roll over and plead guilty to whatever charges they throw at you. I refuse to be intimidated and stood up to them every step of the way. They try and break you and get you and plead guilty, they think they are teaching some type of school-yard bully lesson. In the end it was a stalemate, I told them to go fuck themselves, charges were dropped and they didn't break me.
I have met some of the hopeless cases you are talking about, and in some cases the current way of dealing with them will have to do. My objection is using involuntary commitment as a tool to deal with political dissent or when police misuse there power to so called teach people a lesson. After I was interviewed by a psychiatrist and I told him what had happened (it's an ongoing issue I have with local government and certain laws not being enforced for political reasons), the psychiatrist was appalled by the police's actions and 100% took my side in the matter. of course this pissed the Police off and that's when they decided to trump up some charges which they never followed through with when they realised I would fight them tooth and nail.
So like I said, it isn't always being used as some therapeutic tool, put a punitive measure when the authorities have no legal reason to detain you. Many years ago I researched the police culture here in Australia and am well aware of some of the more controversial shootings and deep in-bedded corruption and they didn't take to kindly to me reminding them of some of their own sins.
They should have never let you out of the loony bin.
Evidently.
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They should have never let you out of the loony bin.
Evidently.
If the police had their way they wouldn't. Not my finest moment, but I don't believe I am crazy in the traditional sense. As yet I have never been given some label that defines how society views my particular brand of disapproving anti social behaviour. You can rest assured if they did I would be asking for proof, no different than if a doctor diagnosed me with cancer.
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Yes, I do believe that bipolar is serious. And those cases need to be taken seriously
I also believe that people can be "conveniently" diagnosed as that...
For instance, a lot of attorneys in court will tell the judge that their client is bipolar. To the point where some judges wonder sarcastically, that everybody who commits a crime is bipolar.
I also believe that many of these people use being bipolar as a excuse for their actions when they assault people, specifically their signif others or family members. Never mind the fact that they have had a history of domestic violence abuse, or assaults or thefts (like stealing people's cars because you feel like it).
I have seen it where people have been diagnosed as bipolar, but have declared that the judge is wrong---and then have gone off into a world of delusion where major recording artists want to deal with "their" production studio, which exists only in their heads. Is this more than bipolar activity?
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Bipolar people often times cheat on spouses as well. During mania, many experience hypersexuality.
RUN.
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I have been involuntarily admitted for simply arguing with the police when they were called over a neighbourhood dispute. I verbally gave them a hard time, but I believe it was warranted (long story). Of course I was released the next day with the psychiatrist shaking his head and obviously sick and tired of the police abusing their powers. My partners sister is a psychiatric nurse, and she often complains that involuntary admission is regularly abused by the Police. She claims a large percentage of people committed have done nothing more than piss off the police and they had little to charge them with so they involuntarily committed them. Of course I live in Australia and the system is more than likely different were you are. But after my experience of being restrained to a restraint bed and drugged I no longer have any faith in the system.
Of course the cops tried to load me up with some charges (I have a history with the police) that they had to drop them because they were simply made up. Over here the police try and intimidate the fuck out of you if you show them any attitude (stand up to them), hoping you will just roll over and plead guilty to whatever charges they throw at you. I refuse to be intimidated and stood up to them every step of the way. They try and break you and get you and plead guilty, they think they are teaching some type of school-yard bully lesson. In the end it was a stalemate, I told them to go fuck themselves, charges were dropped and they didn't break me.
I have met some of the hopeless cases you are talking about, and in some cases the current way of dealing with them will have to do. My objection is using involuntary commitment as a tool to deal with political dissent or when police misuse there power to so called teach people a lesson. After I was interviewed by a psychiatrist and I told him what had happened (it's an ongoing issue I have with local government and certain laws not being enforced for political reasons), the psychiatrist was appalled by the police's actions and 100% took my side in the matter. of course this pissed the Police off and that's when they decided to trump up some charges which they never followed through with when they realised I would fight them tooth and nail.
So like I said, it isn't always being used as some therapeutic tool, put a punitive measure when the authorities have no legal reason to detain you. Many years ago I researched the police culture here in Australia and am well aware of some of the more controversial shootings and deep in-bedded corruption and they didn't take to kindly to me reminding them of some of their own sins.
In this post you definitely sing a different song and i can only agree with it.
I find it very sad that the police in your country abuse their powers in such an extreme way. If they are against you there is basically no way of fighting back (physical or in court), you'll always lose. Very sad.
In my country police won't arrest you with such false accusations. However they are abusive in their own way.
Many times i've seen patients who have physical damage from an arrest which seem sketchy. But a police officer can justify many injuries with ''he slipped on a puddle''. When they are brought in on a stretcher handcuffed and all we always immediately say you can make them lose and well see what happens. 9 out of 10 times they are very calm and tell their side of the story.
Im glad you agree that for the truely sick (not police victims) psych is not that bad.
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thread recap- ekul is crazy and passive/ aggressive.
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I wonder what GetBiggers including Sir Sean Connery think about this "growing illness" in the US.
It is legit, but frequently misdiagnosed. The girls you describe are more similar to emotional unstable personality disorder (borderline personality disorder). True bipolars can be stable for months or years, at least on mood stabilizers. Borderlines may be purely reactive, especially to rejection.
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thread recap- ekul is crazy and passive/ aggressive.
I wouldn't describe myself as passive aggressive, I am pretty overt with my aggression. As for crazy, I don't know that there is a way of actually determining such a thing. The maverick psychiatrist RD Laing once described insanity as "a perfectly rational response to an insane world".
There is also a famous a study known as the Rosenhan experiment - Rosenhan's study was done in two parts. The first part involved the use of healthy associates or "pseudopatients" (three women and five men) who briefly simulated auditory hallucinations in an attempt to gain admission to 12 different psychiatric hospitals in five different States in various locations in the United States. All were admitted and diagnosed with psychiatric disorders. After admission, the pseudopatients acted normally and told staff that they felt fine and had not experienced any more hallucinations. All were forced to admit to having a mental illness and agree to take antipsychotic drugs as a condition of their release. The average time that the patients spent in the hospital was 19 days. All but one were diagnosed with schizophrenia "in remission" before their release.
The second part of his study involved an offended hospital challenging Rosenhan to send pseudopatients to its facility, whom its staff would then detect. Rosenhan agreed and in the following weeks out of 193 new patients the staff identified 41 as potential pseudopatients, with 19 of these receiving suspicion from at least 1 psychiatrist and 1 other staff member. In fact Rosenhan had sent no one to the hospital.
The study concluded "it is clear that we cannot distinguish the sane from the insane in psychiatric hospitals" and also illustrated the dangers of dehumanization and labeling in psychiatric institutions.
More on that study here: quite interesting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment)
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yes, a guy in hs had it.
Out of no where he started talking shit and calling me racist terms ( we where talking about what we where doing after HS )
Basically just ceat the shit ouf of him then and there and avoided him forever. Still see him now and then ,but avoid being around him for too long.
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i dated a bipolar chick once, nice girl, very smart but short-tempered. it was manageable though, she didn't need meds for it or anything. she had social anxiety though so maybe that's a part of it. i think there are varying degrees of it. my mom on the other hand, i'm pretty sure she'd be diagnosed as bipolar if she every went to a doctor, you say the wrong thing to her and she'll flip her shit.
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They just need to start lifting and it will be ok.
Good point....I know it completely cured me. That's actually a joke since I am still crazy as a loon.
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Ok, let me clarify one thing; people will not be locked up against their will for simply having delusions or hallucinations. They HAVE to engage in either self harming behavior or be violent/dangerous to others in order to be locked up against there will. We have even send patients home untreated because they like the voices in their head (a guy heard five girls talk to him the whole day long for example which he found pleasant and didnt make him engage in behavior which is forbidden by the law).
Let me then describe you a case;
Paranoid schizofrenic woman has been admitted over 30+ times. Always the same story; the neighbours break in, she has poisoning delusions, smells gass everywhere. The woman has moved a gazillion amount of times yet these ''problems'' always come back. When things get so bad she usually try's to burn the neighbours house down or something like that and gets brought in by the cops.
The first few days she's completely out of it; cant differentiate night and day thinks everyone is telling lies when we say its 8am or something. She has smelling hallucinations; smells gas and dead bodies everywhere (let me assure you, there are no gas leaks and no dead bodies in the department). She doesn't trust anyone thinks people are going to poison her; food water etc (even though that hasnt happened the past 30 stays at the hospital). She has strange body sensations; thinks people can control her hands (haha try rationalizing that one).
Anyways the dangerous behavior continues and she gets forced medication (because she refuses pills). A good week later she doesnt have ANY of the above described symptomns anymore is super relaxed leaves the department during the day and comes back. Week later is fired from the hospital and continues life. This will go all good for a month or three untill she stops medication (she thinks they are not necessary) and the cycle starts over.
Ofcourse this is an extreme case of a chronic patient who will never have insight to her own sickness. There are people who have one psychotic episode and realise they will need the meds for life when they are better. Those live a happy life and will not be found in a clinique anymore.
One little correction, there are sometimes unpleasant side effect to the meds given to calm schizophrenia. I think this also has a lot to do with why so many schizophrenic folks stop taking them once they are back out on their own and not in the hospital. My aunt had a lot of good energy except when she was medicated and then she was like a zombie. Unless a person is actually dangerous to others, they should be allowed to make their own decisions about meds. Also, I have problems with locking people up who are suicidal or otherwise might do harm to themselves. If I want to kill myself, it is my business and not the government's....in my opinion. There should not be laws against suicide.
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If the police had their way they wouldn't. Not my finest moment, but I don't believe I am crazy in the traditional sense. As yet I have never been given some label that defines how society views my particular brand of disapproving anti social behaviour. You can rest assured if they did I would be asking for proof, no different than if a doctor diagnosed me with cancer.
I assume you do not live in Portland, OR. Unfortunately, their hyper aggressive police force has killed at least three or four folks in the past few years for doing nothing more than acting a little crazy while hanging out on the streets, which is common since there is often nowhere for them to live. They have also injured a fair number of folks. Fortunately, I live in a suburb of Portland, so I have little opportunity to interact with the Portland police. But, if I am ever stopped or questioned, I will play whatever dumb games they want, since I would rather be a little humiliated then dead.
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One little correction, there are sometimes unpleasant side effect to the meds given to calm schizophrenia. I think this also has a lot to do with why so many schizophrenic folks stop taking them once they are back out on their own and not in the hospital. My aunt had a lot of good energy except when she was medicated and then she was like a zombie. Unless a person is actually dangerous to others, they should be allowed to make their own decisions about meds. Also, I have problems with locking people up who are suicidal or otherwise might do harm to themselves. If I want to kill myself, it is my business and not the government's....in my opinion. There should not be laws against suicide.
Yes i fully agree. The side effects are in many case disastrous; impotence occurs a lot, extreme uncontrollable weight gain, over all lethargic and shitty feeling. No young guy (or girl) wants to deal with that. I have full understanding for people who say fuck it, im going to try without and enjoy things again for a while (untill the bubble bursts).
The best thing for someone with schizofrenia is to stay away from drugs and build the meds down to the lowest workable dosage with a med that gives them the least side-effects.
The suicide thing im a little twisted on. My experience is that the people who really want it will succeed. Its the people with the personality disorders who do these half hearted attempts of taking shitloads of pills and call the ambulance themselves to get there stomach pumped out.
If a person who did a good attempt with ''bad luck'' gets admitted they usually play the ''i did it in a panic, im fine now, cured will never do it again card'' leaves the clinique relatively quick and does it again (this time good). Safety is relative even in the clinique. Many hang themselves in a unseen moment on year basis.
You can make an attempt succeed if you really want to, the law doesnt stop you.
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The mentally ill are everywhere. One may be posting in this very thread. Stay vigilant.
Specially the few females that post here...I'd say maybe one is not bipolar from I read from them so far.
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Specially the few females that post here...I'd say maybe one is not bipolar from I read from them so far.
Thank you Dr. Hipolito Mejia. The emotional highs and lows normally associated with a woman's menstrual cycle are not usually considered as bi-polar disorder. Some men also suffer from bi-polar disorder. I read that crazy people rarely think they are the one's who are crazy; it is always everyone else who is crazy.
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Everyone else IS crazy.
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Homosexuality was once labelled a mental illness...Tom Cruise doesn't believe in mental illness...
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Scientology will resolve this.
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Everyone else IS crazy.
My thoughts exactly!!!
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Thanks for all the comments a lot of interesting remarks...
One more thing...(this is not joke)
What about hypomanic episodes ?
I heard that if the girl suffers from Hypomania (bipolar2) she can meet a stranger at a club, dance with him kiss, buy him drinks be VERY SLUTTY...to the point she would give him a BJ at the parking lot ....
then the next day you try to contact her and she's gone forever like she never met you....... Creepy stuff....
Hypomanic? or just a whore?
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH