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I have never been able to do it. Any elite benchers here able?
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I definitely can't do it. Never been a strong bencher. Best I could ever do was about 1.5 :-\
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i did 315 for two+three reps, am at 185 lbs. i guess i could do 370, but i'm not risking a pec tear, have nothing to gain, so i will never know.
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It really is a Midget, Manlet Exercise.
405@165 here
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i did 315 for two+three reps, am at 185 lbs. i guess i could do 370, but i'm not risking a pec tear, have nothing to gain, so i will never know.
Totally does not translate, Sanchez.
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I've gotten close, but no cigar.
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Totally does not translate, Sanchez.
of course, it does chimps. i could power out one rep, but it ain't happening. if i can't get 2-3 relaxed reps, i don't touch the weight.
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ROFLMAO 3 times body weight Bench Press
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of course, it does chimps. i could power out one rep, but it ain't happening. if i can't get 2-3 relaxed reps, i don't touch the weight.
Fair enough. Call me a disbeliever. I'll let the BP mathematicians work on it. Where's 'The Luke' when we need him?
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I did it once. In 1975 when training for the Mr Australia contest and dieting I did 400 pounds while weighing 200. Strict bench with butt on the bench with no bounce. Ah, the good old days. Left shoulder has been sore for decades so I don't bench anymore.
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for a honest powerlifting counting rep with no shirt, i cannot do this.
You dont have one rep with 340lbs in you? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Once... I was 24 I was lifting heavy training...6'0 225-230 did my absolute max ever 455 for 1, clean no other hands on bar...with lift off and set without help...never went over or at again...
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I can't bench press 390lb. Am i suppose to?
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of course, it does chimps. i could power out one rep, but it ain't happening. if i can't get 2-3 relaxed reps, i don't touch the weight.
According to this, you wouldn't even be near 370.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/1rm.htm
same result here:
http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html
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(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_HbaApmpa-Po/TEaFU99SDFI/AAAAAAAACxw/E4-gokVPMzc/s1600/five+firdt.jpg)
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According to this, you wouldn't even be near 370.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/1rm.htm
same result here:
http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html
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didn't i just say i ain't trying to FORCE one rep with that much weight, risking a potential pec injury?
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I have never been able to do it. Any elite benchers here able?
If you can bench your bdy wt x 20 is a legit challenge
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No, but I have a nice cock
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Once... I was 24 I was lifting heavy training...6'0 225-230 did my absolute max ever 455 for 1, clean no other hands on bar...with lift off and set without help...never went over or at again...
I was 22 in these pics sorry about shitty quality... Only pics I had when I deployed Mom asked for photos so I sent these back...no cell phones with cameras in 94
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;)
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Was about 200-205 maxed out natty two years later at 225-230...
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Solid pussy slaying face ted. Props
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didn't i just say i ain't trying to FORCE one rep with that much weight, risking a potential pec injury?
It doesn't matter if you FORCE it or not, if your 315 max is 2-3, you wouldn't be able to move 370.
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Solid pussy slaying face ted. Props
That "face" was useful for another 7/8 years after those pics....then declared useless by a small round gold ring
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Did a legit 440 at 210 years ago. Now I can't do 210 at 440. :P
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At 46 I can still hit double my BW which is only 340. It impresses the young guys at the gym.
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Several times in USPF competition. 419 @198lbs. 451 @220 pounds. 501 @242 pounds. All in competition wearing a wrestling singlet and Hanes Beefy T T-shirt. Remember, we lifted in kilograms as opposed to pounds because at the time Powerlifting was trying to unify meets world wide and everyone except the US uses kilos. You would request your attempts in kilos and the conversion to pounds was almost always an uneven number.
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I have never been able to do it. Any elite benchers here able?
My best ever was 405 clean no spot at 227 bodyweight.
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505 at 198 competing for Army in the 80's. Wore a single ply shirt. Don't flat bench any longer but an easy ten with eight plates on hammer incline at age 52.
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Fair enough. Call me a disbeliever. I'll let the BP mathematicians work on it. Where's 'The Luke' when we need him?
Chasing Bigfoot in the Smokies.
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It doesn't matter if you FORCE it or not, if your 315 max is 2-3, you wouldn't be able to move 370.
225-5
275-5
295-5
315-5 fairly easy
295-5
275-5
my last workout, bench being my first exercise.what do you think my max is??
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225-5
275-5
295-5
315-5 fairly easy
295-5
275-5
my last workout, bench being my first exercise.what do you think my max is??
360-375?
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225-5
275-5
295-5
315-5 fairly easy
295-5
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my last workout, bench being my first exercise.what do you think my max is??
400, assuming you can do 315 8-10
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Done it many times. It's a good feat if you can do it raw.
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http://70sbig.com/blog/2013/05/ryan-carrillo-at-ipf-bench-worlds/
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Could probably never do it since i suck at bench (shitty long arms)
Had a friend train with me for about a month and within a few weeks he could bench around 10kg over his bodyweight for 12 to 15 reps. Had he stuck with it he probably could have done it within his first year.
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505 at 198 competing for Army in the 80's. Wore a single ply shirt. Don't flat bench any longer but an easy ten with eight plates on hammer incline at age 52.
impressive
who was the bench king back then?
was it this guy?
(http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/6892/700/1600/580223/ted2.jpg)
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My best bench was 475 at 215lb, even at my heaviest body weight of 255 could still double, always been able to do double body weight
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Does a Cswol rep count?
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Does a Cswol rep count?
LOL,
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505 at 198 competing for Army in the 80's. Wore a single ply shirt. Don't flat bench any longer but an easy ten with eight plates on hammer incline at age 52.
We're you still in the Army early 90's....I worked out with Army powerlifter and he got me to 455 at Ft Drum he was a mentor, cured me of suicide grip lol.. I can't remember his name short 5'6 260+ HUGE...great guy (NO HOMO)... Sgt First Class.
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NFW. I might be able to hit BW x 20 with some work. Can probably get 15 now.
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I have managed it in a powerlifting comp and come frustratingly close many times.
I think it very much relates to your bio mechanics. Arm length etc. I was always naturally a good bencher and a crap deadlifter.
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I can't do it benching normally, but if I lift my legs in the air and have Arce spot me, I could probably rep it for 50.
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Can anyone here do 10 correct pushups?
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My best bench was 475 at 215lb, even at my heaviest body weight of 255 could still double, always been able to do double body weight
That is impressive.
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Can anyone here do 10 correct pushups?
My max is 50 push ups before i start cramping like I'm having the best orgasm of my life.
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If I was going to bench press twice my bodyweight, I should have done it a long time ago. At 68 years, this isn't likely to happen any time soon. My excuse, besides being old is that my arms are 36" long (sleeve length). This is a heck of a long ways to push up that weight when you are only 5'11" tall. I see guys at the gym lifting amazing amounts of weight in the bench press all the time. Invariably, they are stubby little fellows with short arms.
I gave up trying to be the strong man at the gym a long time ago. I am consistent, I don't take 500 trips to the drinking fountain, I don't chew the fat with my friends for 20 minutes between sets. I come to the gym to workout. That's what I do, get in and get it done....boom!
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one of the best benchers to ever walk the planet
(http://www.hadels.com/kraftsport/pics_articles/bridges_kh_wm1980.jpg)
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New to the forum. I came across this thread and thought it pretty interesting, lots of responses. I can currently do a 2 x body weight bench press raw. I am 46 and weigh in at 212. My son made a youtube video of me on my last set of benching a while back. I had done a lot of reps at 225 before the 405 single, so my strength was tapped somewhat, not a lot, but enough to make a noticeable difference.
Vid below:
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New to the forum. I came across this thread and thought it pretty interesting, lots of responses. I can currently do a 2 x body weight bench press raw. I am 46 and weigh in at 212. My son made a youtube video of me on my last set of benching a while back. I had done a lot of reps at 225 before the 405 single, so my strength was tapped somewhat, not a lot, but enough to make a noticeable difference.
Vid below:
Props.
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My excuse, besides being old is that my arms are 36" long (sleeve length). This is a heck of a long ways to push up that weight when you are only 5'11" tall.
(http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2010/241/f/d/white_cheeked_gibbon_by_micwits101-d2xinky.jpg)
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I haven't stood on a scale in probably three years. I'm guessing 210-220. So 440 around. I tried 405 about a month ago and struggled. So I would most likely fail this challenge.
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It really is a Midget, Manlet Exercise.
405@165 here
We had a bench contest in college and a dude, who wasn't fat, but his arms were probably 15" tops and he was short, did this same lift. It was very impressive.
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New to the forum. I came across this thread and thought it pretty interesting, lots of responses. I can currently do a 2 x body weight bench press raw. I am 46 and weigh in at 212. My son made a youtube video of me on my last set of benching a while back. I had done a lot of reps at 225 before the 405 single, so my strength was tapped somewhat, not a lot, but enough to make a noticeable difference.
Vid below:
Two Thumbs up...
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Thanks gents
Honestly, I think the bench press is the hardest lift to get really good at for most people -myself included
(Elite level I am talking here) - what IS elite level differs for some people I am sure- for me squats and deads just seemed to grow without nearly the effort required for bench pressing - again just me talking here
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Thanks gents
Honestly, I think the bench press is the hardest lift to get really good at for most people -myself included
(Elite level I am talking here) - what IS elite level differs for some people I am sure- for me squats and deads just seemed to grow without nearly the effort required for bench pressing - again just me talking here
I agree with what you are saying here. It certainly has been my experience that making gains bench pressing are very difficult. Congratulations on your success. I like using the smith machine for benching too because I am less likely to drop the weight on my neck. My grip is poor due to arthritis in my hands and the cramping that occurs there. My favorite machine is the ISO lateral flat bench press. It is virtually impossible to drop the weight on oneself using this equipment. I find that removing this fear allows me to take more risks as to the amount of weight I will use.
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my best was about 1.5 but i stopped doing flat bench. shit exercise, impinges your shoulders, doesn't do any good for chest, all front delts with some triceps. i'm starting to do decline though, much better imo.
dorian yates is of the same opinion, he talks a lot about benching forms here
can't embed unfortunately because it's MD
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/md-tv/lifestyles/2010-md-spring-seminar/2660-gaspari-nutrition-presents-the-md-seminar-dorian-yates-chest-training.html
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my best was about 1.5 but i stopped doing flat bench. shit exercise, impinges your shoulders, doesn't do any good for chest, all front delts with some triceps. i'm starting to do decline though, much better imo.
dorian yates is of the same opinion, he talks a lot about benching forms here
can't embed unfortunately because it's MD
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/md-tv/lifestyles/2010-md-spring-seminar/2660-gaspari-nutrition-presents-the-md-seminar-dorian-yates-chest-training.html
I am concerned about doing declines only. Being old, my pecs are fuller at the bottom than higher on my chest. This is the effect of gravity I suppose. I don't have tits like some old guys do. Thank goodness.
Have you seen photos of Arnold in recent years when he's been photographed completely out of shape? Was a time when he had pecs that were admirable. In fact some contend it was his best body part. The sure as heck aren't that anymore. Last photo I saw, it looked like he needed a pec lift.
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I am concerned about doing declines only. Being old, my pecs are fuller at the bottom than higher on my chest. This is the effect of gravity I suppose. I don't have tits like some old guys do. Thank goodness.
Have you seen photos of Arnold in recent years when he's been photographed completely out of shape? Was a time when he had pecs that were admirable. In fact some contend it was his best body part. The sure as heck aren't that anymore. Last photo I saw, it looked like he needed a pec lift.
dorian argues that the bench variation doesn't have any effect on where your chest fills out and that's all genetics. if you look at arnold in his heydey, he definitely seems to have a rounder fuller "boob" chest at the bottom than on top, unlike a guy like franco who has a massive upper chest split but not much in the way of a lower chest. not sure if it's true or not. as someone who wants to build an insane franco-esque split i hope not, but it seems that way.
i think posture has a lot to do with the sagging you describe, back then (and still today) everyone focuses on chest and arms and end up getting massively overpowered anterior delts which leads to that hunched over, shoulder girdle protraction posture, which in my opinion allows the chest to sag over time as opposed to keeping your shoulders back and standing straight up which tightens and lifts it.
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dorian argues that the bench variation doesn't have any effect on where your chest fills out and that's all genetics. if you look at arnold in his heydey, he definitely seems to have a rounder fuller "boob" chest at the bottom than on top, unlike a guy like franco who has a massive upper chest split but not much in the way of a lower chest. not sure if it's true or not. as someone who wants to build an insane franco-esque split i hope not, but it seems that way.
i think posture has a lot to do with the sagging you describe, back then (and still today) everyone focuses on chest and arms and end up getting massively overpowered anterior delts which leads to that hunched over, shoulder girdle protraction posture, which in my opinion allows the chest to sag over time as opposed to keeping your shoulders back and standing straight up which tightens and lifts it.
Like you suggest there many things that affect how one's pectorals develop and appear. In my case, bad posture plays a big role. Although I don't have deltoid development which probably leads to that hunched over posture.
I matured young in that I was a lot taller than my fellow classmates when I was as young a 12 and still in grade school. I was this tall skinny kid who hunch over because I wanted to look more like my classmates. This bad posture stuck with me long after my classmate started to surpass me in height. My maximum height being at 17 or 18 years when I was 5'11". There are probably medical reasons why I didn't continue to grow, but they were undiagnosed. After all 5'11" was taller than the average back then. However, my father was 6'5" so clearly something was wrong. My mom wasn't short either at 5'8".
I have a good sized hump at the top of my spine which I first noticed decades ago. Perhaps if I were to spend a year or two in traction, I might be able to change this some. At my age, I am not about to devote that much time to anything that isn't fun. I think I will just have to work with the bad posture because it isn't going to change much now.
Perhaps one of the reasons some people like me get into bodybuilding is to improve on our natural genetics. That being the case, I prefer to believe I can develop the pectorals of my dreams if I just work them long and hard enough, employing the right exercises. I'd prefer to hold on to this fantasy, if that is what it is, rather than give up. My center insertion is wide. I can accept that, although I would prefer a nice tight line there.
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this was more than twice my BW :P ;D
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Like you suggest there many things that affect how one's pectorals develop and appear. In my case, bad posture plays a big role. Although I don't have deltoid development which probably leads to that hunched over posture.
I matured young in that I was a lot taller than my fellow classmates when I was as young a 12 and still in grade school. I was this tall skinny kid who hunch over because I wanted to look more like my classmates. This bad posture stuck with me long after my classmate started to surpass me in height. My maximum height being at 17 or 18 years when I was 5'11". There are probably medical reasons why I didn't continue to grow, but they were undiagnosed. After all 5'11" was taller than the average back then. However, my father was 6'5" so clearly something was wrong. My mom wasn't short either at 5'8".
I have a good sized hump at the top of my spine which I first noticed decades ago. Perhaps if I were to spend a year or two in traction, I might be able to change this some. At my age, I am not about to devote that much time to anything that isn't fun. I think I will just have to work with the bad posture because it isn't going to change much now.
Perhaps one of the reasons some people like me get into bodybuilding is to improve on our natural genetics. That being the case, I prefer to believe I can develop the pectorals of my dreams if I just work them long and hard enough, employing the right exercises. I'd prefer to hold on to this fantasy, if that is what it is, rather than give up. My center insertion is wide. I can accept that, although I would prefer a nice tight line there.
yeah i was hunched over too, my growth spurt happened early and i got to my current height (6'3") at like 15 or 16, so my posture suffered. coupled with clueless weightlifting in high school (chest and biceps allday errday), it got worse, but working my upper back has helped immensely.
you might have some luck with various site injection routines if you're that determined. some people swear by various peptides like MGF for achieving this purpose, but i've never seen it done for specific parts of the chest as far as i'm aware
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yeah i was hunched over too, my growth spurt happened early and i got to my current height (6'3") at like 15 or 16, so my posture suffered. coupled with clueless weightlifting in high school (chest and biceps allday errday), it got worse, but working my upper back has helped immensely.
you might have some luck with various site injection routines if you're that determined. some people swear by various peptides like MGF for achieving this purpose, but i've never seen it done for specific parts of the chest as far as i'm aware
Thanks for the tip. I will check this out.
I think we all were clueless when it came to weight training when we were still kids. I did have the benefit of an experienced bodybuilder to mentor me for a few years. Even so, that was over 50 years ago and we've all learn a lot that we didn't know about proper lifting techniques over the years. I do still see many younger and older folks doing some pretty odd looking lifts at the gym though. So maybe not everyone has progressed.
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It really is a Midget, Manlet Exercise.
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i did 315 for two+three reps, am at 185 lbs. i guess i could do 370, but i'm not risking a pec tear, have nothing to gain, so i will never know.
Sure you did.
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I did 455x2 at about 235 a few years ago... I don't flat bench almost ever anymore, and I changed my lifting to more bodybuilder since then
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I did 455x2 at about 235 a few years ago... I don't flat bench almost ever anymore, and I changed my lifting to more bodybuilder since then
I was just about to make a thread tomorrow asking where you went but now I don`t have too, lol. ;)
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I think as you get heavier it's gets somewhat harder to bench 2 x bodyweight -been my experience anyways. When I first doubled my body weight on FB it seemed a lot easier at 175 than it did at 215, again just me talking here.
I think it's harder for a 250 lb. guy to hit 5 bills than it is for a 200 lb. guy to hit 4 bills
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Don't bench press anymore and I see no point in bragging about the past. :D
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I'm getting close, I think I'll be able to do that in a year or two.
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I've done 350 at 185 a long time ago! Never did singles or max's!
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I've done 350 at 185 a long time ago! Never did singles or max's!
impressive
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360 is Big Dicked Bob's warmup set.
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I was just about to make a thread tomorrow asking where you went but now I don`t have too, lol. ;)
Just moved to Columbus for an awesome new job. Working kind of a lot, and don't feel comfortable yet to go on getbig at work ha.. although I am sure its ok.
So I have been busy with adjusting, training(best its been in a long time), and using online dating to find a massive amount of whores.
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"Don`t Bench Press Anymore" = Embarrassed to do it in front of anyone because I don`t want them to think I am weak, my gym peers expect more out of me than I can deliver at the moment. :D
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haha yes.
they expect me to move brutal weight and then i go and use less weight than some of the smallest twinks there ;D
I love it. I can`t tell you how many times I have heard the "I have bad shoulders" excuse, or "I use to bench a lot for 10 years now I just do Dumbbells", only to find them using a military press on shoulder day. ???
How does that work out? :D
Anyone who tells you that they don`t bench press anymore or can`t is just embarrassed and not confident enough to do it in front of anyone.
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To be honest, I could give a flying fuck how much I can bench press. What interests me more is how to grow some slabs of muscle on my chest. If anyone has any ideas about doing this, I am all ears (or eyes as the case may be).
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I had some decent growth using a GVT type of workout a few years back
Also did some cambered bar benches supersetted with high rep flyes and got some decent results, but I definitely felt it on my rotators if I went too heavy
Just my 2 cents bro
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Bench pressing twice your bodyweight in IPF sanctioned competition is a feat that only top-elite can do. Now when it comes to gym-bench that's different story. I benched 140kg in the gym at around 78kg and 130kg in competition at 73.9kg. I honestly believe I could bench more than 140kg if I didn't have to worry about my feet staying on the floor, 1 sec pause, strict movement and so on. Pause vs touch and go is about 5kg. Touch and go vs bounce is another 5kg. If you lift your ass then you have another 5kg or even more if you abuse it...
I've finished my bench with 125kg in previous competition coz my 130kg got red flagged due to my left foot being slightly eleveated during lift.
Squat comes easy for me because I'm confident there, bench is very hard and deadlift is tactical. You can never "fight" more than once during competition on deadlift. If you go too high during 2nd attempt you won't lift shit in third attempt. If you fail during 2nd attempt after a fight then you're done. I attempted 220kg, barbell was slippery and my grip failed when I was dropping the bar. In the third attempt (220kg again) I haven't even lifted the bar off the floor...
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Bench pressing twice your bodyweight in IPF sanctioned competition is a feat that only top-elite can do. Now when it comes to gym-bench that's different story. I benched 140kg in the gym at around 78kg and 130kg in competition at 73.9kg. I honestly believe I could bench more than 140kg if I didn't have to worry about my feet staying on the floor, 1 sec pause, strict movement and so on. Pause vs touch and go is about 5kg. Touch and go vs bounce is another 5kg. If you lift your ass then you have another 5kg or even more if you abuse it...
I've finished my bench with 125kg in previous competition coz my 130kg got red flagged due to my left foot being slightly eleveated during lift.
what's your training like for the bench?
is it twice a week with one day focused on the bench and then another day focused on tri work?
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what's your training like for the bench?
is it twice a week with one day focused on the bench and then another day focused on tri work?
Twice a week heavy bench. Now I've switched and squat 4 times a week and bench 3-4 times a week and switched from preplanned progression to intuition and daily max. I'm still experimenting alot.
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Twice a week heavy bench. Now I've switched and squat 4 times a week and bench 3-4 times a week and switched from preplanned progression to intuition and daily max. I'm still experimenting alot.
but you're not benching heavy each workout are you?
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I definitely think volume work for the bench press is important, more so than for the other lifts
Gotta have freakish strong tri's too !
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but you're not benching heavy each workout are you?
Yes, I am.
Pre contest was like - 2.5kg each week more on the bar, twice a week same weight, accessory lifts as needed if recovery was good.
Top benchers bench 3-4 times per week with 2 days for heavy bench.
With squat it is even more crazy, top olympic lifters squat 6 days per week, about 2 days going for max (even 1 rep max). This is brutal but sure as hell works for them. Light olympic lifters squat more than any powerlifter could imagine.
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Yes, I am.
Pre contest was like - 2.5kg each week more on the bar, twice a week same weight, accessory lifts as needed if recovery was good.
Top benchers bench 3-4 times per week with 2 days for heavy bench.
With squat it is even more crazy, top olympic lifters squat 6 days per week, about 2 days going for max (even 1 rep max). This is brutal but sure as hell works for them. Light olympic lifters squat more than any powerlifter could imagine.
most top benchers in the jew s a train it twice a week
for example: sunday is heavy bench day and wednesday is heavy tri work ie. floor press, jm press, etc
but dudes in the 70's and early 80's did train heavy bench 3 times a week, like this fella 8)
(http://general-stuff.38656.n3.nabble.com/file/n4025113/dougyoung-395x400.jpg)
(http://www.crossfitworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/5075_100174186661627_100000071370228_1414_5239246_n.jpg)
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Hepburn,Pacifico, McDonald ,Williams ... all trained bench multiple times a week and went very heavy
Had pretty good results too
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most top benchers in the jew s a train it twice a week
for example: sunday is heavy bench day and wednesday is heavy tri work ie. floor press, jm press, etc
but dudes in the 70's and early 80's did train heavy bench 3 times a week, like this fella 8)
(http://general-stuff.38656.n3.nabble.com/file/n4025113/dougyoung-395x400.jpg)
(http://www.crossfitworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/5075_100174186661627_100000071370228_1414_5239246_n.jpg)
That's american style, suitable for very big guys who rely on their insane muscle mass. Russians train more often, most of medium-weight guys train very often. Training 1-2 times per week came from powerlifting suits (it's impossible to squat daily in a suit or bench daily in a shirt) and bodybuilding influence.
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Nope and as the years go by it gets farther away as I get fatter ;D
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By the way, many casual lifters who have daily job don't think they're good because they compare themselves to other casual lifters. Like me - I deadlift 220kg (missed attempt but we can count it - my grip failed when dropping the bar), bench 130kg (with pause) and squat 180kg (in competition) all at below 74kg. Compared to other gym rats, I'm good. Compared to professional athletes like olympic lifters... I'm nothing. Stoitsov squats 300kg at around that weight, Tokola squats 250kg, many guys on youtube who squat daily and follow structured olympic lifting programme squat over 220kg at this weight. Your response prolly will be - oh steroids, oh, they look like shit... Well, nobody gives a fuck and trust me, in the end it's all about hard work. I was unable to admit it for years but now I understand that.
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There was a good series on chaosandpain regarding benching:
http://chaosandpain.blogspot.nl/2012/05/stop-bitching-and-start-benching.html
http://chaosandpain.blogspot.nl/2012/05/stop-bitching-and-start-benching-2.html
http://chaosandpain.blogspot.nl/2012/06/stop-bitching-and-start-benching-3-more.html
http://chaosandpain.blogspot.nl/2012/06/stop-bitching-and-start-benching-4-my.html
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I did it once. In 1975 when training for the Mr Australia contest and dieting I did 400 pounds while weighing 200. Strict bench with butt on the bench with no bounce. Ah, the good old days. Left shoulder has been sore for decades so I don't bench anymore.
You didn't bench that much you old lying sack of shit