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What's up fellas, I've been MIA for two weeks but just stopping through. I have my arthroscopic surgery scheduled for tomorrow. It's for a labral tear in my shoulder. Surgery will be done by an orthopedic surgeon of a national hockey team who specializes in shoulders and knees only. This is an old injury from 7 years ago at the gym from doing behind the neck barbell presses heavy without a spotter. But I'm getting a second chance here to fix the partial tear, and be back in the gym down the road. Hope all's well with the rest of ya'll.
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All the best
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From a guy that just went through his 6th failed major back surgery, good luck to you. I hope you come out better than ever!
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did you feel hardcore when you used too much weight too handle on a basicaly useless exercise?
good luck with the surgery, try other sport after it
Thanks, but what can I say bro? I was young and dumb, and to this day I remember I was too angry that day too from getting into it with my old man. As far as another sport, working out will always be there but i want to get back to swimming again too.
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All the best
Thanks bro
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Good luck!! And do ur rehab. Do not do ranges that dont feel right. Pain will be the indicator of wat u can and cant do. Listen to ur body
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From a guy that just went through his 6th failed major back surgery, good luck to you. I hope you come out better than ever!
Thanks, and damn sorry to hear that. Why 6 times? I do know back surgeries are more complex than my type of surgery. But what caused the back injury, and did you not find a reputable back surgeon and also find a good physical therapist.
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Had mine done in Jan 2013....good luck, recovery is hell...at least for me.
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Good luck!! And do ur rehab. Do not do ranges that dont feel right. Pain will be the indicator of wat u can and cant do. Listen to ur body
Well said. Although right now I have no pain and great range of motion, but the shoulder isnt stable enough to handle medium weights or stress from exercising without causing pain in the shoulder. Otherwise for somebody who doesnt work out, the condition my shoulder is now would be good enough for that only.
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Had mine done in Jan 2013....good luck, recovery is hell...at least for me.
Thanks and sorry to hear about the recovery time. What type of injury did you have. And how reputable or good was your orthopedic surgeon and physical therapist.
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Thanks and sorry to hear about the recovery time. What type of injury did you have. And how reputable or good was your orthopedic surgeon and physical therapist.
Slap tear 9-2 ortho does the falcons and braves players
I wrote a detail account under training...in injuries section
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=189633.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=189633.0)
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Speedy recovery iron brother. Wear that sling post op. Just before you go under, grab one of the nurses boobs and blame the anesthetic- that's what I always do. :D
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Thanks, and damn sorry to hear that. Why 6 times? I do know back surgeries are more complex than my type of surgery. But what caused the back injury, and did you not find a reputable back surgeon and also find a good physical therapist.
Thanks BigN, I have 2 degenerative diseases in my spine. I have had 2 fusions, plates put in, plates taken out. I just had a stim nerve stimulator put in 2 weeks ago, it did nothing and they have already taken it back out. I have had over 40 injections, every type of therapy you can think of. The stimulator I just went through was the last option for pain relief. Now I just have to rely on the morphine sulfate I take for pain relief.
You should fly through yours with great success. Please keep us posted. I am 54 so I have that against me too. But I have been dealing with this back since I was 22.
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Thanks BigN, I have 2 degenerative diseases in my spine. I have had 2 fusions, plates put in, plates taken out. I just had a stim nerve stimulator put in 2 weeks ago, it did nothing and they have already taken it back out. I have had over 40 injections, every type of therapy you can think of. The stimulator I just went through was the last option for pain relief. Now I just have to rely on the morphine sulfate I take for pain relief.
You should fly through yours with great success. Please keep us posted. I am 54 so I have that against me too. But I have been dealing with this back since I was 22.
Sorry to hear bro. I messed mine up once doing deads but a chiro showed me twists to do works every time I always have people to do them before training them. I hope it does not get worse down the road. Good luck.
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Speedy recovery iron brother. Wear that sling post op. Just before you go under, grab one of the nurses boobs and blame the anesthetic- that's what I always do. :D
Haha I will keep that in mind whenever I go under again!
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Good luck man. I fear I may have a similar injury. :( I injured my shoulder back in October and its still bothering me.
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I have a 2 year old SLAP lesion. Luckily, smarter training and low dose nandrolone keeps it feeling healthy and pain free. Good luck broham.
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Had mine done in Jan 2013....good luck, recovery is hell...at least for me.
august 2012. Still not right. Although I had other stuff in there too. Good luck!
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Both my brothers fucked up their shoulders doing sports, and they never fully recovered afterwards.
Pain, limited range of motion, and weird cracking noises still haunt them.
Good luck, phaggot.
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Thanks, but what can I say bro? I was young and dumb, and to this day I remember I was too angry that day too from getting into it with my old man. As far as another sport, working out will always be there but i want to get back to swimming again too.
I have been doing that and it feels awesome. My shoulders ache but in the water they are great.
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Thanks BigN, I have 2 degenerative diseases in my spine. I have had 2 fusions, plates put in, plates taken out. I just had a stim nerve stimulator put in 2 weeks ago, it did nothing and they have already taken it back out. I have had over 40 injections, every type of therapy you can think of. The stimulator I just went through was the last option for pain relief. Now I just have to rely on the morphine sulfate I take for pain relief.
You should fly through yours with great success. Please keep us posted. I am 54 so I have that against me too. But I have been dealing with this back since I was 22.
Woah. That sucks. Makes me feel like a chump for complaining about my two bulging discs. :-\
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What's up fellas, I've been MIA for two weeks but just stopping through. I have my arthroscopic surgery scheduled for tomorrow. It's for a labral tear in my shoulder. Surgery will be done by an orthopedic surgeon of a national hockey team who specializes in shoulders and knees only. This is an old injury from 7 years ago at the gym from doing behind the neck barbell presses heavy without a spotter. But I'm getting a second chance here to fix the partial tear, and be back in the gym down the road. Hope all's well with the rest of ya'll.
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You needed 7 years to gather the money for the surgery ?
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I had an MRI on my shoulder in 2009, dislocated both several times - it showed an anterior labrum tear.
Been trying to rehab it myself, not too successfully, may have to take the plunge and get surgery too.
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Good luck - incredibly frustrating when you're hurt and not running on full steam.
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i sounded more harsh than i meant it, i had my share of self inflicted surgerys myself ;D
but yes, this "sport" has some dangers to it, many ppl quickly think the steroids are dangerous, haha, whats far more dangerous is the own ego leading to training injuries.
steroids will give acne, maybe limp dick for a month when coming off and elevated blood values, but an injury will be with you for the rest of your life.
today i was bit overly motivated during benchpressing and the rotator cuffs are already "thanking" me for that :-X
good luck, man prepare some books for recovery, eat the best foods during recovery, make yourself feel as good as possible 8)
Lol! Thanks bro will take your good advice.
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Slap tear 9-2 ortho does the falcons and braves players
I wrote a detail account under training...in injuries section
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=189633.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=189633.0)
I read it and I think you just have to give it time and go based on how your body responds to the recovery phase. Dont set up pyramids of a set time of when things must be good. The body is a healing process, not a machine. But wish you the best hope all's well soon. And remember surgery and physical therapy is very psychological.
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Speedy recovery iron brother. Wear that sling post op. Just before you go under, grab one of the nurses boobs and blame the anesthetic- that's what I always do. :D
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Will do thanks bud!
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I hope they wipe all the Crisco off you first so the knife doesn't slip and cut you in the wrong place ;D
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Thanks BigN, I have 2 degenerative diseases in my spine. I have had 2 fusions, plates put in, plates taken out. I just had a stim nerve stimulator put in 2 weeks ago, it did nothing and they have already taken it back out. I have had over 40 injections, every type of therapy you can think of. The stimulator I just went through was the last option for pain relief. Now I just have to rely on the morphine sulfate I take for pain relief.
You should fly through yours with great success. Please keep us posted. I am 54 so I have that against me too. But I have been dealing with this back since I was 22.
Thanks bro. And I understand where you coming. The pain and suffering isnt easy to deal with, but its part of life and just have to accept the facts. I think your circumstances shouldnt phase you too much due to the knowledge, and understanding you have of what you're going through. As you know, it could always be worse which is something I tell myself too, it somewhat helps keep me grounded and acceptive towards pain and suffering when it comes to injuries and rehabilitation. Good luck.
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Good luck man. I fear I may have a similar injury. :( I injured my shoulder back in October and its still bothering me.
Thanks bro. Sorry to hear about your injury. Give us some insight on how it happened, the specific type of injury and what not. That way we could try to help as much as possible.
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I have a 2 year old SLAP lesion. Luckily, smarter training and low dose nandrolone keeps it feeling healthy and pain free. Good luck broham.
Thanks bro, sorry to hear about your injury too. But it's all about the iron training, trials and errors.
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Both my brothers fucked up their shoulders doing sports, and they never fully recovered afterwards.
Pain, limited range of motion, and weird cracking noises still haunt them.
Good luck, phaggot.
Lol thank you sir, wish a speedy recovery for your two bros too.
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I have been doing that and it feels awesome. My shoulders ache but in the water they are great.
How long has it been since you had your shoulder surgery and physical therapy done.
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Hang in there Big N you will recover, it might take about about 6 weeks.
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good luck homie.
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Hang in there Big N you will recover, it might take about about 6 weeks.
6 weeks from a slap repair?!?....yeah.....if he's Wolverine
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You needed 7 years to gather the money for the surgery ?
Lol! Not exactly. At first it was suggested to let the injury heal and make the shoulder better the natural way by tightening up the surrounding muscles to keep the shoulder tight and stable in the socket through PT. That did work, but partially. Plus shoulder wasnt strong enough for exercising more than 15-20lbs dumbbells, or going to the gym 3-4 times a week or doing chest or some shoulder exercises. Then also taking into consideration my hectic job schedule, expensive insurance, never had surgery before and other life related issues which prevented me from doing surgery and the whole post PT process. So i'd say about 6-7yrs.
-If you need surgery and make sure you do your homework, its better to get the surgery done while you're young to get a speedy full recovery.
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Managing Expectations When Recovering from a Labral Repair
http://www.physiodc.com/managing-expectations-when-recovering-from-a-labral-repair/ (http://www.physiodc.com/managing-expectations-when-recovering-from-a-labral-repair/)
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Injuries are frustrating and depressing. Luckily bodybuilders are the best at rehab. Most slugs just go through the motions at rehab but if you lift you know how to work. Just wait until you get the doctors okay before you add onto your physical therapy. Once the doctor gave me the okay I went to rehab and every day tried to increase my range of motion. I eventually used little midget dumbbells you can buy at walmart. I had a different injury. A complete bicep rupture. It took me 6 months to regain my upper body strength. Some guys with partials are back way quicker. I bet the first couple of weeks after surgery you will feel like your lifting is completely over. Then gradually the strength and mobility will start returning. With the doctors okay start trying to get mobility back in the shoulder. Then use imaginary air weights. Then one pound dumbbells and so on. Work hard at the physical therapist office.
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I think deadlifting is a dangerous exercise for biceps, that's why you should do them with dumbbells instead of barbells so the arms can adjust to their natural position over the whole lift.
Come to think of it, why use barbell for anything, arms are made to operate independently in all directions.
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I had an MRI on my shoulder in 2009, dislocated both several times - it showed an anterior labrum tear.
Been trying to rehab it myself, not too successfully, may have to take the plunge and get surgery too.
I hear that. Make sure you follow up with two different type of orthopedic surgeons. One who specializes in shoulders/knees only and one who specializes overall for the body as an orthopedic surgeon. If PT didnt work, and its a tear whether its small/big then i'd suggest possibly looking into surgery after doing your best with the natural way of rehabilitation. Good luck bro!
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I think deadlifting is a dangerous exercise for biceps, that's why you should do them with dumbbells instead of barbells so the arms can adjust to their natural position over the whole lift.
Come to think of it, why use barbell for anything, arms are made to operate independently in all directions.
Deads are only dangerous for biceps if you use a supinated grip for one arm.
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Good luck - incredibly frustrating when you're hurt and not running on full steam.
Thanks bro. Absolutely, it is frustrating especially when its a tear and cant heal without pretty much surgery. PT did help stabilize, strenghten the surrounding areas of the injury. But thats only good for average joe who doesnt lift, or engage in stressful physical activities.
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Hang in there Big N you will recover, it might take about about 6 weeks.
Thanks bro. Yes, the healing from the surgery with the incisions might take 4-6 weeks to heal. Then PT will do the rest.
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good luck homie.
Thanks bro
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Thanks bro. Sorry to hear about your injury. Give us some insight on how it happened, the specific type of injury and what not. That way we could try to help as much as possible.
Lol of all thing it was playing disc golf! Hurt real bad when it happened sent a jolt through my body almost like getting the wind knocked out. During normal activities there is no pain. Pain only when lift arm above head like working shoulders or shooting g basketball. After I get warmed up I can play basketball pretty painless.
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I think deadlifting is a dangerous exercise for biceps, that's why you should do them with dumbbells instead of barbells so the arms can adjust to their natural position over the whole lift.
Come to think of it, why use barbell for anything, arms are made to operate independently in all directions.
I would disagree (to a point). When I see the average person deadlifting they are set up, grab the bar, apply some tension to it and the shoulders come forward slightly (along with some scapular protraction). Then they start to lift and the weight obviously will want to accentuate the movement I just talked about. The lifter then tries to pull their shoulders back and retract the scapula. Remembering that the bicep tendon becomes part of the labrum your bicep is then susceptible to injury. Thats why its important to keep that good scapular retraction with this movement (among other things).
Try this...take a single handle and attach it to a pulldown machine. Reach up with your shoulder relaxed and sit down. Now, try and just pull your shoulder down by depressing the scapula. Hard as hell to do. Now, reach up with your shoulder/scapula already in the depressed position and you will probably be able to use a heavier load. (hope that makes sense)
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Managing Expectations When Recovering from a Labral Repair
http://www.physiodc.com/managing-expectations-when-recovering-from-a-labral-repair/ (http://www.physiodc.com/managing-expectations-when-recovering-from-a-labral-repair/)
I've read it, good read and informative. But as you know each patient recovers differently, which is why its important to see how your body is responding.
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I've read it, good read and informative. But as you know each patient recovers differently, which is why its important to see how your body is responding.
Agree...but having as much good info as possible can only help. Good luck.
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Injuries are frustrating and depressing. Luckily bodybuilders are the best at rehab. Most slugs just go through the motions at rehab but if you lift you know how to work. Just wait until you get the doctors okay before you add onto your physical therapy. Once the doctor gave me the okay I went to rehab and every day tried to increase my range of motion. I eventually used little midget dumbbells you can buy at walmart. I had a different injury. A complete bicep rupture. It took me 6 months to regain my upper body strength. Some guys with partials are back way quicker. I bet the first couple of weeks after surgery you will feel like your lifting is completely over. Then gradually the strength and mobility will start returning. With the doctors okay start trying to get mobility back in the shoulder. Then use imaginary air weights. Then one pound dumbbells and so on. Work hard at the physical therapist office.
Thanks for taking the time to write this solid post. I agree, have to do things the right way as far as recovering, gaining range of motion, mobility and then strength. How's your bicep now? And how many years has it been since the injury happened, also what injured it.
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I think deadlifting is a dangerous exercise for biceps, that's why you should do them with dumbbells instead of barbells so the arms can adjust to their natural position over the whole lift.
Come to think of it, why use barbell for anything, arms are made to operate independently in all directions.
You do have a point, but personally I'd say any improper form or too much useless heavy weight would cause injuries. I'd say best approach is moderation, good form and focusing on contracting the muscle tissue with muscle and mind connection.
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I am pretty sure I have minor anterior labral tears on both shoulders from prolonged wear and tear, but I am still able to crank out moderate to heavy weights without suffering from any subluxations or dislocations.
My biggest fear (besides going under Anesthesia - which should be the biggest fear as it can lead to death) is that not all shoulder surgeries are successful. Some end up with complications like infections, chronic pain, further reduced range of motion and/or an inability for the shoulder to be restored to its original form.
While many people have experienced great results from undergoing shoulder surgery for an anterior, posterior or even SLAP tear, I still worry about the pain not going away and whether it will become a revolving door for us patients.
Best of luck either way man, I wish you the very best!
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I am pretty sure I have minor anterior labral tears on both shoulders from prolonged wear and tear, but I am still able to crank out moderate to heavy weights without suffering from any subluxations or dislocations.
My biggest fear (besides going under Anesthesia - which should be the biggest fear as it can lead to death) is that not all shoulder surgeries are successful. Some end up with complications like infections, chronic pain, further reduced range of motion and/or an inability for the shoulder to be restored to its original form.
While many people have experienced great results from undergoing shoulder surgery for an anterior, posterior or even SLAP tear, I still worry about the pain not going away and whether it will become a revolving door for us patients.
Best of luck either way man, I wish you the very best!
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all I can say is at 5 months post op I am happy with my slap repair surgery....granted mine was a major tear so I had to have it repaired. The difference is immeasurably positive from prior to surgery.
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all I can say is at 5 months post op I am happy with my slap repair surgery....granted mine was a major tear so I had to have it repaired. The difference is immeasurably positive from prior to surgery.
Same here. Had the surgery done and I am very pleased with the results. I'm very happy I had the surgery.
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Lol of all thing it was playing disc golf! Hurt real bad when it happened sent a jolt through my body almost like getting the wind knocked out. During normal activities there is no pain. Pain only when lift arm above head like working shoulders or shooting g basketball. After I get warmed up I can play basketball pretty painless.
Lol! Disc golf? Shit i guess you never know when you can injure yourself, not neccessarily with weights either.
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Agree...but having as much good info as possible can only help. Good luck.
Thanks. For sure, its never too much info when you do surgery on any part of your body.
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Good luck with the surgery!
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I am pretty sure I have minor anterior labral tears on both shoulders from prolonged wear and tear, but I am still able to crank out moderate to heavy weights without suffering from any subluxations or dislocations.
My biggest fear (besides going under Anesthesia - which should be the biggest fear as it can lead to death) is that not all shoulder surgeries are successful. Some end up with complications like infections, chronic pain, further reduced range of motion and/or an inability for the shoulder to be restored to its original form.
While many people have experienced great results from undergoing shoulder surgery for an anterior, posterior or even SLAP tear, I still worry about the pain not going away and whether it will become a revolving door for us patients.
Best of luck either way man, I wish you the very best!
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Thanks bro. As far as you having concerns with surgery, that's understandable. Infact for any surgery, any type of possibilities of something going wrong is possible. But you'd also have to look at things on a brighter side, such as will it be worth it, will i gain more with surgery than the current physical state i'm in now. Also, the type of shoulder surgery that i had or one that you might consider at least its not heart or brain surgery, or shoulder or hip replacement for example. Either way best advice i could give you is, have surgery as a last resort only if you think your body needs it and knowing it'll make your body physically stronger. And do some solid research for a great Orthopedic Surgeon and Physical Therapist! You can get their opinions too prior to having any kind of surgery done, doesnt hurt.
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Thanks bro. As far as you having concerns with surgery, that's understandable. Infact for any surgery, any type of possibilities of something going wrong is possible. But you'd also have to look at things on a brighter side, such as will it be worth it, will i gain more with surgery than the current physical state i'm in now. Also, the type of shoulder surgery that i had or one that you might consider at least its not heart or brain surgery, or shoulder or hip replacement for example. Either way best advice i could give you is, have surgery as a last resort only if you think your body needs it and knowing it'll make your body physically stronger. And do some solid research for a great Orthopedic Surgeon and Physical Therapist! You can get their opinions too prior to having any kind of surgery done, doesnt hurt.
Agreed!
If I go under the knife for my shoulder problems, I would have had to exhaust both physical therapy and use of anti-inflammatory meds (just short of developing stomach ulcers or kidney problems).
As you get older though (for us guys in our 40's), these injuries don't typically go away or get better.
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Agreed!
If I go under the knife for my shoulder problems, I would have had to exhaust both physical therapy and use of anti-inflammatory meds (just short of developing stomach ulcers or kidney problems).
As you get older though (for us guys in our 40's), these injuries don't typically go away or get better.
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This is true. But do keep in mind as you get older the surgical aspect, and recuperation wont be as easy as when you're younger. Either way, ultimately it'll be a decision that only you know when your body's ready when the time is right.
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how´s your shouder brah??
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how´s your shouder brah??
Good thanks. Seem to be getting better by the day. Right now just trying to focuse on minimizing as much scar tissue as possible through physical therapy. Keep the shoulder mobile and not let it "freeze" to avoid limited range of motion. It's been 23 days since the surgery, and happy so far with the outcome pretty much.