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Title: Just found out a good friend committed suicide.
Post by: Wiggs on June 11, 2013, 11:22:43 AM
I've delt with depression in the past and have even had some dark thought cross my mind in the past so I know all about depression but it just sucks that when someone does this and you were good buds that you wish you could have at least said or done something.  The guy had a beautiful mind and was a good man. R.I.P. :'(

*steps off soapbox.
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Post by: OneMoreRep on June 11, 2013, 11:28:41 AM
Sorry to hear brother.

I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers...

"1"
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Post by: Wiggs on June 11, 2013, 11:32:26 AM
Sorry to hear brother.

I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers...

"1"

Thanks bro.
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Post by: bigmc on June 11, 2013, 11:41:06 AM
i would never post news like that on this forum

i hope people respect the news

i have a feeling they wont

i would ask mods to delete this thread if it was me there are better ways to pay your respect
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Post by: BDsauce on June 11, 2013, 11:46:52 AM
R.I.P

Sorry for your loss.
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Post by: chaos on June 11, 2013, 11:52:34 AM
PIP
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Post by: Powerlift66 on June 11, 2013, 11:52:42 AM
I've delt with depression in the past and have even had some dark thought cross my mind in the past so I know all about depression but it just sucks that when someone does this and you were good buds that you wish you could have at least said or done something.  The guy had a beautiful mind and was a good man. R.I.P. :'(

*steps off soapbox.

That sucks, sorry to hear that Wiggs...
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Post by: stuntmovie on June 11, 2013, 12:00:00 PM
Sorry about the loss of your friend, Wiggs. I know how you feel right now as I've been there twice myself.

Lincoln wrote something once that really prove to be helpful.

It was some very wise and helful words that he wrote after the loss of his young son.

I'd like to send it to you if I can find it.

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Post by: bradistani on June 11, 2013, 12:00:54 PM
ah that's shit man.. sorry to hear. mental illness and depression claims a lot of people one way or another.. something you start to notice more as you get older/hit your 40s
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 11, 2013, 12:07:27 PM
I've delt with depression in the past and have even had some dark thought cross my mind in the past so I know all about depression but it just sucks that when someone does this and you were good buds that you wish you could have at least said or done something.  The guy had a beautiful mind and was a good man. R.I.P. :'(

*steps off soapbox.

That sucks , sorry to hear.
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Post by: Pray_4_War on June 11, 2013, 12:10:55 PM
I've been there Wiggs.  Grieve but try not to take on the problems of that person.  Nothing you could have done.  It's a fucked up world we live in and not everyone is cut out for it.   
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Post by: _bruce_ on June 11, 2013, 12:14:53 PM
Tragic.
R.I.P.
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Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 11, 2013, 12:27:46 PM
How close were you?  Did you see any signs that would make you think he was suicidal?
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Post by: bebop396 on June 11, 2013, 12:35:02 PM
Sorry for your loss Wiggs...And no you do not see the signs unless you been through it before...

A dude I knew that committed suicide asked me if i wanted some cash...I said no...Looking back, he was getting rid of everything before he committed the act..He jumped off his balcony..
Title: Re: Just found out a good friend committed suicide.
Post by: Wiggs on June 11, 2013, 12:36:44 PM
People are going to be assholes if they're assholes no matter what. I'm not going to stop posting how I feel to protect my ego.

He was a young man (would have been 26 next week) a white fellow. I hired him at a job I used to have. He was very quick witted, very bright and fun as hell to be around. He went into the Air Force about two years after I got out. He came down with an illness and was medically discharged a couple years later. We stayed in contact through facebook.  Quite honestly I'm shocked, hurt and sad all the same time. I can honestly say I loved the guy as my brother.
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Post by: Mr Nobody on June 11, 2013, 12:41:04 PM
Sorry to hear Wiggs, humans are the only ones that have this choice.
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Post by: King Shizzo on June 11, 2013, 12:41:30 PM
 My condolences Wiggs.
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Post by: sync pulse on June 11, 2013, 12:47:40 PM
People who commit suicide only want to stop the pain...either mental or physical.
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Post by: King Shizzo on June 11, 2013, 12:50:25 PM
My brother recently had suicidal thoughts. He even told my mother that he didn't want to live anymore. Scary shit.
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Post by: Mr Nobody on June 11, 2013, 12:51:28 PM
People who commit suicide only want to stop the pain...either mental or physical.
This ^^.
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Post by: Ronnie Rep on June 11, 2013, 12:57:49 PM
Sad, I have had people very close to me deal with clinical depression, and cry out for help! Sorry for you're loss Wiggs!
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Post by: Seven Copper Coins on June 11, 2013, 01:00:05 PM
Damn shame...sorry to hear Wiggs.
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Post by: no one on June 11, 2013, 01:02:07 PM


gotta wonder how much pain a person has to be in to take their own lives. a lot of people would get angry and say they are selfish for doing that etc. stop and think for a minute how much pain that person had to be in.omg im sorry to hear wiggs. horrible news.
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Post by: FitnessFrenzy on June 11, 2013, 01:06:19 PM
I've delt with depression in the past and have even had some dark thought cross my mind in the past so I know all about depression but it just sucks that when someone does this and you were good buds that you wish you could have at least said or done something.  The guy had a beautiful mind and was a good man. R.I.P. :'(

*steps off soapbox.

Sorry about your friend Wiggs. That sucks big time. Are you ok?
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Post by: MORTALCOIL on June 11, 2013, 01:12:19 PM
Been there twice already. Both times, it toik me some time to get it out of my head and not completely. You suddenly ask yourself if you could do it, is it worth it, do your loved ones really understand it when you need them, etc....hang on, Wiggs. It's not going to be easy for a while.
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Post by: Archer77 on June 11, 2013, 01:12:38 PM
My condolences.  
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Post by: Disgusted on June 11, 2013, 01:21:40 PM
Rip
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Post by: arce1988 on June 11, 2013, 01:23:43 PM
  RIP


  I too have thought about Harakiri
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Post by: Parker on June 11, 2013, 01:26:03 PM
sad to hear that Wiggs. Sad for his family.
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Post by: King Shizzo on June 11, 2013, 01:27:03 PM
I think everyone has a what if I....... moment in life. Part of being human I guess.
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Post by: AVBG on June 11, 2013, 01:59:22 PM
Sad to hear this Wiggs. RIP.
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Post by: anabolichalo on June 11, 2013, 02:26:18 PM
ballz of steel

hats off


sad tho
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Post by: BigCyp on June 11, 2013, 03:00:15 PM
Sorry to hear of your loss Wiggs, keep your head up bro.
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Post by: illuminati on June 11, 2013, 03:15:57 PM
People are going to be assholes if they're assholes no matter what. I'm not going to stop posting how I feel to protect my ego.


Quite honestly I'm shocked, hurt and sad all the same time. I can honestly say I loved the guy as my brother.


My thoughts And Best Wishes To you.

i have recently lost my Best friend, how you feel & felt about your friend is who i am & felt for my friend.
I just wish i could of helped / done more for him.

sadly tho i have to accept he was grown man & choose to do what he wanted.
it don't make me feel any better.
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Post by: Option D on June 11, 2013, 03:19:34 PM
sorry to her that big dog
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Post by: Princess L on June 11, 2013, 03:31:39 PM

i hope people respect the news

i have a feeling they wont


People are going to be assholes if they're assholes no matter what. I'm not going to stop posting how I feel to protect my ego.

He was a young man (would have been 26 next week) a white fellow. I hired him at a job I used to have. He was very quick witted, very bright and fun as hell to be around. He went into the Air Force about two years after I got out. He came down with an illness and was medically discharged a couple years later. We stayed in contact through facebook.  Quite honestly I'm shocked, hurt and sad all the same time. I can honestly say I loved the guy as my brother.

Sorry for your loss.

Disrespectful comments have been and will be removed.
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Post by: Earl1972 on June 11, 2013, 03:32:38 PM
do you know of any issues he was having?

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Post by: Roger Bacon on June 11, 2013, 03:40:36 PM
I've delt with depression in the past and have even had some dark thought cross my mind in the past so I know all about depression but it just sucks that when someone does this and you were good buds that you wish you could have at least said or done something.  The guy had a beautiful mind and was a good man. R.I.P. :'(

*steps off soapbox.

Sorry to hear that Wiggins!  Sending positive vibes your way...
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Post by: DanielPaul on June 11, 2013, 04:34:08 PM
Sorry for your loss wiggs , I went through this with my grandmother as a teen then my dad in my early twenties, it seems that side of my family suffers severe problems with depression.  I was lucky enough to take after my mom's side so I'm pretty much emotionally bullet proof.  Looking back on both situations I feel like they both took a cowards way out, but I've never had to live a day in there shoes so aside from my comments on this anonymous board I'll try not to judge, my condolences to you friend.
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Post by: Costanza on June 11, 2013, 04:42:33 PM
Hang in there man.

I remember years ago a work colleague took their own life and even though I wasn't close to them it still really rattled me, can't imagine how you must be feeling.
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Post by: DroppingPlates on June 11, 2013, 04:45:12 PM
That's very sad news Wiggs, esp at a relatively young age...  :-\
My condolences for his family and friends.
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Post by: Marty Champions on June 11, 2013, 04:55:15 PM
wiggs sorry for your loss brother

maybe you wouldve kept him alive longer if you introduced to him the brotherhood that is GETBIG.com
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Post by: Nomad on June 11, 2013, 05:02:02 PM
Sorry to hear that Chief Wiggins

PIP
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Post by: Psychopath on June 11, 2013, 05:11:53 PM
@Princess, can you please relax with the post deletion. This is getbig after all.

@Wiggs, how did your friend commit suicide?
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Post by: YngiweRhoads on June 11, 2013, 05:31:32 PM
Suicide sucks for the family and friends still living. Condolences man.
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Post by: oldtimer1 on June 11, 2013, 05:56:30 PM
I hope his family and you will find peace in time. It's tragic when someone has no hope in their life. You wish you could have been there to say hold on for 1 more day. Then try to make it a week and so on. When you see no way out you can't see that things can get better with time. It's a reminder to keep hope in our own life. May God have mercy on his soul. He is kind and merciful.
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Post by: jephrius on June 11, 2013, 06:08:04 PM
Why all the sympathy for the unemployed pothead? Because an acqauintance died?
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Post by: Marty Champions on June 11, 2013, 06:17:04 PM
Why all the sympathy for the unemployed pothead? Because an acqauintance died?
wiggs just checking to see if he has any friends thats all

this is the brother-"hood" of getbig
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Post by: Rudee on June 11, 2013, 06:28:32 PM
Sorry to hear.
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Post by: RagingBull on June 11, 2013, 06:31:59 PM
Sorry about your loss!

I've delt with depression in the past and have even had some dark thought cross my mind in the past so I know all about depression but it just sucks that when someone does this and you were good buds that you wish you could have at least said or done something.  The guy had a beautiful mind and was a good man. R.I.P. :'(

*steps off soapbox.
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Post by: BikiniSlut on June 11, 2013, 06:36:39 PM
@Princess, can you please relax with the post deletion. This is getbig after all.
@Wiggs, how did your friend commit suicide?

This. Or if you are going to moderate those comments please do it in EVERY thread similar to ones like this instead of picking and choosing.

Wiggs....I hope your friend is truly out of his pain wherever his soul may be now. So sad to hear.  :'( Just know you did all you could, even if you feel you didn't.
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Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on June 11, 2013, 06:36:56 PM
RIP PIP
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Post by: WalterWhite on June 11, 2013, 07:58:40 PM
Lost a couple friends the same way and it's horrible.  God Bless..
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Post by: Papper on June 11, 2013, 08:02:39 PM
This. Or if you are going to moderate those comments please do it in EVERY thread similar to ones like this instead of picking and choosing.


Aha I wondered where all the funny posts where
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Post by: SF1900 on June 11, 2013, 08:06:34 PM
Sorry, wiggs :(
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Post by: 99 Bananas on June 11, 2013, 08:12:03 PM
You're assuming whatever comes after clinical death isn't fucking awesome. It might be. Don't hate.
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Post by: Everhard on June 11, 2013, 08:13:10 PM
Close friend of mine committed suicide last year. She had just graduated college and started doing her dream job teaching, but just could not defeat those mental demons.
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Post by: Natural Man on June 11, 2013, 08:36:19 PM
7 billions + people dont care.
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Post by: Earl1972 on June 11, 2013, 08:37:56 PM
7 billions + people dont care.

funny coming from the most "christian" guy here

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Post by: Natural Man on June 11, 2013, 08:40:46 PM
Quote
funny coming from the most "christian" guy here

It s a fact, and if you actually knew what you were talking about, you d knew suicide is a sin. Stupid asshole.
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Post by: HockeyFightFan on June 11, 2013, 08:44:16 PM
Sorry to hear Wiggs, stay strong during this trying time.
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Post by: Earl1972 on June 11, 2013, 08:53:08 PM
It s a fact, and if you actually knew what you were talking about, you d knew suicide is a sin. Stupid asshole.


that's the only thing that stops you from offing yourself "fecesinurface" and you know it

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Post by: Slik on June 11, 2013, 08:56:31 PM
I've delt with depression in the past and have even had some dark thought cross my mind in the past so I know all about depression but it just sucks that when someone does this and you were good buds that you wish you could have at least said or done something.  The guy had a beautiful mind and was a good man. R.I.P. :'(

*steps off soapbox.
sorry. Man. My best friend since childhood, the guy I shared everything with, the kind of friend u can sit n watch TV with n not say shit cuz ur that comfortable, he just died in a freak accident last week.ive been a mess since. I know wut ur going thru.  Sorry to hear Wiggs. Tragic for sure.
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Post by: Psychopath on June 11, 2013, 09:52:07 PM
Is is a sad truth that so many desire to know how the person died and could not care how they lived.  Perhaps this is why some take their own life.  

This is not meant to belittle you in any way but rather to make a valid point based upon your question as quoted above.

To Wiggs I would offer my condolences and if the opportunity arises, please pass them on to the family.

Be well.


I don't know man, lots of people who commit suicide have a good relationship with a sexual partner or with friends and family. It's not always "i could've told you so" scenario with stuff like this.

Contemplating suicide, and coming close to it is very common i would assume.

I troll and talk shit on this forum, so i rarely delve into my personal life, but i came very close to ending it with a heroin overdose.

I don't look for sympathy from others, that's the worst thing you can aim for in life.

People simply don't give two shit, and if they do, it's superficial at best.

You have to be your own rock, then you build your life around that.

People often assume, "only if i knew, i could've done something", or "he was a great, happy guy, wonder what went wrong".

Everyone shares similar biology, but people often project their world view onto others, neglecting the fact that everyone's experience in life is unique, no matter how much you can relate to one person, they are still different in more ways than you can imagine.

People who use the "coward" explanation, are either religious and regurgitate their faith's teachings, or they assume this position as a way to deal with grief, or the grim side of life.

In a way, they are more juvenile and emotionally stunted than the person who committed suicide ever was, if at all.



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Post by: diamondcut on June 11, 2013, 10:15:36 PM

I don't know man, lots of people who commit suicide have a good relationship with a sexual partner or with friends and family. It's not always "i could've told you so" scenario with stuff like this.

Contemplating suicide, and coming close to it is very common i would assume.

I troll and talk shit on this forum, so i rarely delve into my personal life, but i came very close to ending it with a heroin overdose.

I don't look for sympathy from others, that's the worst thing you can aim for in life.

People simply don't give two shit, and if they do, it's superficial at best.

You have to be your own rock, then you build your life around that.

People often assume, "only if i knew, i could've done something", or "he was a great, happy guy, wonder what went wrong".

Everyone shares similar biology, but people often project their world view onto others, neglecting the fact that everyone's experience in life is unique, no matter how much you can relate to one person, they are still different in more ways than you can imagine.

People who use the "coward" explanation, are either religious and regurgitate their faith's teachings, or they assume this position as a way to deal with grief, or the grim side of life.

In a way, they are more juvenile and emotionally stunted than the person who committed suicide ever was, if at all.







Holy hell, another human being capable of understanding the thought process of someone who is actually enduring pain and wanting to end it all.

For fucks sake, I thought the world was plagued with mental midgets who think they can make another persons world so drastically different by saying "it's a selfish act"

Bravo to you, good sir
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Post by: Ron on June 11, 2013, 10:38:46 PM


Depression in people is so hard to help sometimes.  Sometimes people think life is so bleak out there, that they don't even try to talk to someone, because they think no one will care.  Some people think they are all alone out there.

Sorry for your loss.  It will stay with you for a while, then pushed away in the back of your mind, but on those quiet nights when you reflect, you go back and think about the good times... and the bad.
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Post by: Wiggs on June 11, 2013, 10:49:51 PM
I gotta say I'm impressed with all the positivity. Thanks for your input. He went down by a lake in Dallas county in Texas and blew his head off. I never sensed anything was wrong but you never know a mans deepest thought.

Again, thanks for all the love! 8)
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Post by: Master Blaster on June 11, 2013, 10:55:16 PM
Thanks for all the love?

Any way, sorry to hear about your friend. The thing about suicide I find so scary is that it's breaking a societal bond that says "We all agree life is worth living."

Once someone breaks that agreement, it calls everything into question.

I will always be here, though. Never surrender.
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Post by: Wiggs on June 11, 2013, 11:09:51 PM
I'm not new to this. My best childhood friend. Half Asian-Half White kid. He got As all the time ever since we were in 4th grade. By the time we were seniors in high school, we went to different high schools but still kept in touch. It is he that got me into bodybuilding and gave me my first roid books. Anabolic Reference Guide and World Anabloic Review by Bill Phillips (yes, that one).  Anyway he was always great at anything in books or video games. But he loved bodybuilding. He was the valedictorian that year and got like a 1510 on his SATS out of 1600. I'll never forget that, I was proud of my score. lol. 

Well he met a girl at the gym. He was head over heals with her. He'd talk about her all the time. But I found out she didn't feel the same way. In essence, he went nuts and disappeared police concluded including the family that it was a suicide I would agree. He gave away his Rolex his dad gave him for graduation, his computer (big deal back in 1997lol) and his car. He left his wallet.

The last time I saw him he asked me, "what is your deepest darkest secret"? I told him I didn't have one and that I thought it was an odd question. That was pretty much it.
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Post by: Radical Plato on June 11, 2013, 11:33:27 PM
My good friend killed himself a few years back, we trained together for years.  He was a good man, stable as a rock, worked hard, was successful, had a wife and two kids.  Not a hint of mental illness, could be pretty angry at times, but nothing out of the ordinary.  Then one day, I get a phone call from my brother, tells me he hung himself from a tree in the backyard.  Turns out his missus was fooling around and he found out about it and he snapped.  His good friend was a policemen of twenty years, he told him he was going to kill himself and the policemen friend didn't take it all that serious and said he would ring him in the next day.  he never called and a few days later my mate was dead.  He killed himself on the first day of Winter!
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Post by: AbrahamG on June 12, 2013, 01:53:12 AM
I'm not new to this. My best childhood friend. Half Asian-Half White kid. He got As all the time ever since we were in 4th grade. By the time we were seniors in high school, we went to different high schools but still kept in touch. It is he that got me into bodybuilding and gave me my first roid books. Anabolic Reference Guide and World Anabloic Review by Bill Phillips (yes, that one).  Anyway he was always great at anything in books or video games. But he loved bodybuilding. He was the valedictorian that year and got like a 1510 on his SATS out of 1600. I'll never forget that, I was proud of my score. lol. 

Well he met a girl at the gym. He was head over heals with her. He'd talk about her all the time. But I found out she didn't feel the same way. In essence, he went nuts and disappeared police concluded including the family that it was a suicide I would agree. He gave away his Rolex his dad gave him for graduation, his computer (big deal back in 1997lol) and his car. He left his wallet.

The last time I saw him he asked me, "what is your deepest darkest secret"? I told him I didn't have one and that I thought it was an odd question. That was pretty much it.

I wonder if he was pining for your love and when he realized he was chasing an impossible dream, he just couldn't take it.  Just a thought.
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Post by: Rami on June 12, 2013, 02:52:30 AM
I wonder if he was pining for your love and when he realized he was chasing an impossible dream, he just couldn't take it.  Just a thought.

The impossible dream of being in love with Wiggs? Maybe that's why he asked him about dark secrets. That's tragic.
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Post by: Quickerblade on June 12, 2013, 02:59:31 AM
I gotta say I'm impressed with all the positivity. Thanks for your input. He went down by a lake in Dallas county in Texas and blew his head off. I never sensed anything was wrong but you never know a mans deepest thought.

Again, thanks for all the love! 8)

Fuck, poor guy, he had to be going through some crazy madness in his head.
You say you never sensed it, many dont, i think its normal, they function like nothing is bothering them then there gone. Ron is right, if theres a issue in your life, just talk about it to someone, even pay someone if needed.
sorry to hear this Wiggs. I feel for his family and close friends, RIP
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Post by: whitewidow on June 12, 2013, 03:22:29 AM
I've delt with depression in the past and have even had some dark thought cross my mind in the past so I know all about depression but it just sucks that when someone does this and you were good buds that you wish you could have at least said or done something.  The guy had a beautiful mind and was a good man. R.I.P. :'(

*steps off soapbox.

I have had to deal with that and it is horrible! That might take some time to get over but if you did not know the guy was having problems there is nothing you could of done. It sounds like a old friend who you lost contact with for awhile and then just found out recently. To me a friend is like family and we stay in touch almost daily! So if a friend of mine is in trouble mentally I know when to step in and get him help. I had a friend who was a heavy heroin addict.

He was also just a average suburban white kid where you would not guess he was into junk, and even looking at him he never looked like he was shooting up like he was. he also went crazy and went through withdrawals all the time when he ran out, then he would threaten suicide and that is when you have to step in and get them help. But you can get them help after help after help and they will still go back to drugs. He was always honest about his drug usage to me and I did the best I could to help him out. The best thing to happen to him is he got locked up for 45 days and came out just looking great and acting normal and actually had some fucking hope but he screwed up his probation and before he went to check back into jail the next day(turn himself in on a warrant) he bought some heroin and since his tolerance was low he overdosed. Only 30 years old and four days before christmas.

What sucks is I met him in middle school and knew him years before he started using hard drugs, sure i saw and smoked weed with him many times and on certain holidays we got high on ecstasy, or did a little coke but that was maybe a few times a year, Then he got addicted to oxycontin and benzos and when they changed the oxycontin formula so it was non abusable and due to price he started smoking heroin and shortly after he started shooting heroin. I did everything I possibly could! I gave him money to get help and he blew it on drugs. I helped him get a job. But a addict is a addict. If he wouldn't listen to me there was no way he would listen to anybody.I called old friend to call him and go hang out with him as he kept talking about how he lost all his old friends.

 I always keep in touch with my friends because if they get in a tough spot I am one person who will do anything to let them  know they still count. Sometimes there is only so much you can do. I know your situation is diffrent but try to stay in touch with all your friends almost daily. It is weird some of the biggest toughest guys I have ever met have died due to suicid some because they were to drugged out and were so sick of life. I mean these were some tough guys and I cannot believe they took that way out.
Title: Re: Just found out a good friend committed suicide.
Post by: Rami on June 12, 2013, 04:49:10 AM
I have had to deal with that and it is horrible! That might take some time to get over but if you did not know the guy was having problems there is nothing you could of done. It sounds like a old friend who you lost contact with for awhile and then just found out recently. To me a friend is like family and we stay in touch almost daily! So if a friend of mine is in trouble mentally I know when to step in and get him help. I had a friend who was a heavy heroin addict.

He was also just a average suburban white kid where you would not guess he was into junk, and even looking at him he never looked like he was shooting up like he was. he also went crazy and went through withdrawals all the time when he ran out, then he would threaten suicide and that is when you have to step in and get them help. But you can get them help after help after help and they will still go back to drugs. He was always honest about his drug usage to me and I did the best I could to help him out. The best thing to happen to him is he got locked up for 45 days and came out just looking great and acting normal and actually had some fucking hope but he screwed up his probation and before he went to check back into jail the next day(turn himself in on a warrant) he bought some heroin and since his tolerance was low he overdosed. Only 30 years old and four days before christmas.

What sucks is I met him in middle school and knew him years before he started using hard drugs, sure i saw and smoked weed with him many times and on certain holidays we got high on ecstasy, or did a little coke but that was maybe a few times a year, Then he got addicted to oxycontin and benzos and when they changed the oxycontin formula so it was non abusable and due to price he started smoking heroin and shortly after he started shooting heroin. I did everything I possibly could! I gave him money to get help and he blew it on drugs. I helped him get a job. But a addict is a addict. If he wouldn't listen to me there was no way he would listen to anybody.I called old friend to call him and go hang out with him as he kept talking about how he lost all his old friends.

 I always keep in touch with my friends because if they get in a tough spot I am one person who will do anything to let them  know they still count. Sometimes there is only so much you can do. I know your situation is diffrent but try to stay in touch with all your friends almost daily. It is weird some of the biggest toughest guys I have ever met have died due to suicid some because they were to drugged out and were so sick of life. I mean these were some tough guys and I cannot believe they took that way out.

Wow, that seemed like extremely poor planing on his part, to start using drugs without understanding what happens next.
Title: Re: Just found out a good friend committed suicide.
Post by: whitewidow on June 12, 2013, 05:21:36 AM
Wow, that seemed like extremely poor planing on his part, to start using drugs without understanding what happens next.

well he overdosed it wasn't suicide but yes if you have to rely on the blackmarket for drugs there are going to be times you cannot find it and you have to suffer and go through withdrawals. I cannot count the time he had to go through opiate and xanax and other benzo withdrawals. I gave him money to go get help but he blew it on drugs. We got his family to put him in rehab many times but he always stayed 10 days and checked out. He looked very good when he got out of jail and he was pretty much sober till he had a probation violation and had to go back to jail the next morning and he just decided to get high before he went back in and his tolerance was nothing at the time. He just could not handle those big shots he used to take and he died.

Like I said he knew what he was dealing with he struggled with oxycontin and heroin for 4-5 years and this as just a good ole suburban white boy who just went down the wrong path. Once you start using heroin for years you are pretty fucked! nothing helped the guy suboxone would not help him, methadone did not help him, he was just fucked. 90% of people who fuck with heroin do not get off of it forever many relapse or struggle with it. very few actually clean up and stay off the drug. Those who clean up usually are the ones who have to do years in jail or they join the army. If you stay in your environment you are used to you are looking at a relapse.

This seems to be a bad pattern it starts with opiate painkillers like oxycontin or these days roxicodone and they wind up not being able to find it one night or find heroin is cheaper and BOOM just like that they turn into heroin addicts. His death wasn't that surprising but it did hit me hard! Maybe not the day I found out but after some time I started to really mourn. I started thinking what else I could of done but there was really nothing more i could of done! I wasn't his dad! If I were his dada I would of kicked the shit out of him and threw his ass in the army.His dad was to easy-going though. he didn't want to believe there was a serious problem!

I knew there was a serious problem because he almost killed me one night when we were driving,he totally passed out at the wheel going down a hill at a relatively fast speed and went totally of course and almost slammed into a big parked car.I gave him some of my own money to see my dr. and get some help. some of the meds he was getting off the black market like the xanax ,valium or klonopin I really do think he did need them but he needed to get a legit precritption. I also thought he was Bi-polar due to drug use and maybe my dr. could of helped him with that or maybe prescribed some subutex instead of suboxone. sometimes the naloxone in suboxone does not settle right with some people.Anyway I could say his dad should of done this or that but that does not bring him back and it as a awful loss! He was more then a frined he was like my brother. I am 31 and we were friends since we were 13 and we just clicked like a magnet to a fridge we were def family. All his family is like my family. It was def a huge blow and this happened 5 days before christmas and i am still not 100% over it. It rocked me pretty hard.
Title: Re: Just found out a good friend committed suicide.
Post by: Rami on June 12, 2013, 05:40:20 AM
Close call how his drug abuse nearly killed you as well. That's crazy. Seemed like he wasn't even close to be able to change.

well he overdosed it wasn't suicide but yes if you have to rely on the blackmarket for drugs there are going to be times you cannot find it and you have to suffer and go through withdrawals. I cannot count the time he had to go through opiate and xanax and other benzo withdrawals. I gave him money to go get help but he blew it on drugs. We got his family to put him in rehab many times but he always stayed 10 days and checked out. He looked very good when he got out of jail and he was pretty much sober till he had a probation violation and had to go back to jail the next morning and he just decided to get high before he went back in and his tolerance was nothing at the time. He just could not handle those big shots he used to take and he died.

Like I said he knew what he was dealing with he struggled with oxycontin and heroin for 4-5 years and this as just a good ole suburban white boy who just went down the wrong path. Once you start using heroin for years you are pretty fucked! nothing helped the guy suboxone would not help him, methadone did not help him, he was just fucked. 90% of people who fuck with heroin do not get off of it forever many relapse or struggle with it. very few actually clean up and stay off the drug. Those who clean up usually are the ones who have to do years in jail or they join the army. If you stay in your environment you are used to you are looking at a relapse.

This seems to be a bad pattern it starts with opiate painkillers like oxycontin or these days roxicodone and they wind up not being able to find it one night or find heroin is cheaper and BOOM just like that they turn into heroin addicts. His death wasn't that surprising but it did hit me hard! Maybe not the day I found out but after some time I started to really mourn. I started thinking what else I could of done but there was really nothing more i could of done! I wasn't his dad! If I were his dada I would of kicked the shit out of him and threw his ass in the army.His dad was to easy-going though. he didn't want to believe there was a serious problem!

I knew there was a serious problem because he almost killed me one night when we were driving,he totally passed out at the wheel going down a hill at a relatively fast speed and went totally of course and almost slammed into a big parked car.I gave him some of my own money to see my dr. and get some help. some of the meds he was getting off the black market like the xanax ,valium or klonopin I really do think he did need them but he needed to get a legit precritption. I also thought he was Bi-polar due to drug use and maybe my dr. could of helped him with that or maybe prescribed some subutex instead of suboxone. sometimes the naloxone in suboxone does not settle right with some people.Anyway I could say his dad should of done this or that but that does not bring him back and it as a awful loss! He was more then a frined he was like my brother. I am 31 and we were friends since we were 13 and we just clicked like a magnet to a fridge we were def family. All his family is like my family. It was def a huge blow and this happened 5 days before christmas and i am still not 100% over it. It rocked me pretty hard.
Title: Re: Just found out a good friend committed suicide.
Post by: whitewidow on June 12, 2013, 06:11:04 AM
Close call how his drug abuse nearly killed you as well. That's crazy. Seemed like he wasn't even close to be able to change.


Yes! I had to yell and I had to correct the steering wheel! otherwise he would of hit a big truck! I couldn't belive he just passed out like that while driving! One second he was up and talking the next he was comatose! It would of been a horrible wreck as we were going downhill and he was drifting to the left side of the street were there was a big huge parked truck. I was fired up and could of protected myself better if he would have hit the truck but I was lucky to have grabbed the wheel and yell at him real loud and correct the wheel so we were going straight. It did piss me off. But it was something I could bitch to him about and it was proof he needed help! NO he wasn't going to change because he did not want to change his environment,plus he was states property! once you get on probation the state owns your ass!
Title: Re: Just found out a good friend committed suicide.
Post by: Childish///AMG on June 12, 2013, 06:16:45 AM
Wow, thats sad. A military friend left the service, because they were dealing with a lot of issues. I pray each day that they do not take their own life. Because they said that they know they are going to do it. It just brings back memories of people who you never thought would take their life, but did. Stay strong
Title: Re: Just found out a good friend committed suicide.
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on June 12, 2013, 06:19:56 AM
I gotta say I'm impressed with all the positivity. Thanks for your input. He went down by a lake in Dallas county in Texas and blew his head off. I never sensed anything was wrong but you never know a mans deepest thought.

Again, thanks for all the love! 8)

We need to get all the negativity away from Getbig. Waste of time.
Title: Re: Just found out a good friend committed suicide.
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 12, 2013, 06:20:42 AM
Except for the few examples of generation nothing posts I'm really surprised by the good will expressed here. Maybe there is hope.
Title: Re: Just found out a good friend committed suicide.
Post by: King Shizzo on June 12, 2013, 07:01:56 AM
This should show the power of clinical depression. I'm sure plenty of suicide victims were believers in god. However, they're earthly pain was so great, that they were willing to take the chance of eternal hell.

It is obviously very real.
Title: Re: Just found out a good friend committed suicide.
Post by: MikMaq on June 12, 2013, 07:50:32 AM
A true suicide is a paced, disciplined certainty. People pontificate, "suicide is selfish," while career churchman like Pater call it a coward's act typically because they lack the necessary suffering to sympathize. Couldn't be further from the truth; suicide takes tremendous courage.

-Best movie quote ever.


Anyways it'll be exactly six months on tuesday since my friend did that shit, had a nice little reminder at work yesterday as a squad of cop cars spent the day looking for a body near my work(timing eh?)


That shit is fucked, it's like discovering a friend of yours is a murderer, dead, and spreading a contagious disease(depression) all at the same time. It's a total head trip, it's not fun realizing virtually everyone you know is capable of murder, worst yet taking pretty much anyone away from you.
Title: Re: Just found out a good friend committed suicide.
Post by: King Shizzo on June 12, 2013, 07:53:11 AM
A true suicide is a paced, disciplined certainty. People pontificate, "suicide is selfish," while career churchman like Pater call it a coward's act typically because they lack the necessary suffering to sympathize. Couldn't be further from the truth; suicide takes tremendous courage.

-Best movie quote ever.


Anyways it'll be exactly six months on tuesday since my friend did that shit, had a nice little reminder at work yesterday as a squad of cop cars spent the day looking for a body near my work(timing eh?)


That shit is fucked, it's like discovering a friend of yours is a murderer, dead, and spreading a contagious disease(depression) all at the same time.
The King calls you for execution. You have too many shit threads/posts.
Title: Re: Just found out a good friend committed suicide.
Post by: Papper on June 12, 2013, 09:18:06 AM
We need to get all the negativity away from Getbig. Waste of time.

yes. getbig needs to embrace things like love, kindness and positivity. maybe start a fundraising for underpriviliged youth?  ::)
Title: Re: Just found out a good friend committed suicide.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 12, 2013, 09:30:05 AM
I gotta say I'm impressed with all the positivity. Thanks for your input. He went down by a lake in Dallas county in Texas and blew his head off. I never sensed anything was wrong but you never know a mans deepest thought.

Again, thanks for all the love! 8)

For some people this world just sucks.  Lots of ugliness in human nature and some people just don't want to live to see it.  Some people are blessed with riches and can never find happiness, others are born in shit and poverty and have a smile on their faces daily.  Hard to tell what makes people happy or not.  Some depressed people feel the need to kill others, some themselves.  This world is just nuts.  It continues to move at breakneck speed with no signs of slowing down.  Human compassion is at it's lowest and getting worst. I don't even want to know what this world will be like in 50-100 years.
Title: Re: Just found out a good friend committed suicide.
Post by: bebop396 on June 12, 2013, 11:46:48 AM
Happiness in people depend on Seratonin levels, so happiness really does come from within...
Title: Re: Just found out a good friend committed suicide.
Post by: Natural Man on June 12, 2013, 04:15:29 PM
there are three kind of adults, those who realize life is about killing or getting killed, those who cant deal with it, and those who never grow up to avoid facing it. Humans are animals who are conscious of being animals. It s called maturing, reaching adulthood.