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Title: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Fury on June 14, 2013, 12:12:43 PM
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Note: One of the non-Islamist groups is dedicated solely to fighting in the Kurdish areas in north Syria.



Great work, Obama!!!!  ::)
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: 240 is Back on June 14, 2013, 01:34:09 PM
It was inevitable.  Obama sucks for this, but Romney supported it too.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/08/mitt-romney-arm-syrian-rebels

Pres McCain would be doing it too...

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/mccain-graham-urge-arming-of-syrian-rebels

SO yes, obama sucked donkey dick, no arguing that.  But this is just one of those things that isn't a dem thing - either president would be doing it right now.
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: 240 is Back on June 14, 2013, 01:49:31 PM
You truly are incapable of criticizing Obama

???

Obama sucks

obama sucked donkey dick
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Shockwave on June 15, 2013, 09:57:03 AM
???

One or two quotes does not  just suddenly negate years of gargling obamas balls.
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: tonymctones on June 15, 2013, 10:00:04 AM
One or two quotes does not  just suddenly negate years of gargling obamas balls.
thats what he doesnt understand....

moron will make one comment about obama and then a paragraph about how bush, mccain, romney
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Straw Man on June 15, 2013, 10:05:51 AM
It was inevitable.  Obama sucks for this, but Romney supported it too.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/08/mitt-romney-arm-syrian-rebels

Pres McCain would be doing it too...

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/mccain-graham-urge-arming-of-syrian-rebels

SO yes, obama sucked donkey dick, no arguing that.  But this is just one of those things that isn't a dem thing - either president would be doing it right now.

completely valid point yet willfully ignored by those that truly want nothing more in life than to hate Obama

Any vehicle to promote that hatred is all they require

the hate is the starting point, the journey and the destination
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: 240 is Back on June 15, 2013, 10:06:45 AM
thats what he doesnt understand....

moron will make one comment about obama and then a paragraph about how bush, mccain, romney

my overall point is that arming the syrian rebels is what our govt wants to do.  It's inevitable.   It's not an obama thing, it's a government thing.  

pundits saying we're too late to make a difference - BUT if we're admitting to giving them guns, body armonr, and night vision goggles, then we're probably secretly giving them some badass shit.  In the end, the rebels will be mostly killed, the govt leaders will be outed... and what, we'll install a puppet?
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Straw Man on June 15, 2013, 10:37:44 AM
my overall point is that arming the syrian rebels is what our govt wants to do.  It's inevitable.   It's not an obama thing, it's a government thing.  

pundits saying we're too late to make a difference - BUT if we're admitting to giving them guns, body armonr, and night vision goggles, then we're probably secretly giving them some badass shit.  In the end, the rebels will be mostly killed, the govt leaders will be outed... and what, we'll install a puppet?


Obama is the last one on board that train too and delaying has almost certainly made our now inevitable involvement more challenging (i.e. going to cost more and be less successful).   

Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: 240 is Back on June 15, 2013, 11:16:04 AM
Obama is the last one on board that train too and delaying has almost certainly made our now inevitable involvement more challenging (i.e. going to cost more and be less successful).   


obama is being criticized for not making this bad decision soon enough.


And being late to the party only means more of the rebels have been killed off.  That's probably one of our goals too - you don't want the govt toppled when there are 100k rebels... you want the govt toppled when there are 10k of them left lol...

They're pretty much all bad guys over there - we're helping them kill each other then maybe installing a bad guy that will play ball with us better than the last one.
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 15, 2013, 02:58:41 PM

obama is being criticized for not making this bad decision soon enough.


And being late to the party only means more of the rebels have been killed off.  That's probably one of our goals too - you don't want the govt toppled when there are 100k rebels... you want the govt toppled when there are 10k of them left lol...

They're pretty much all bad guys over there - we're helping them kill each other then maybe installing a bad guy that will play ball with us better than the last one.

Obama is the idiot who originally drew the line
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: whork on June 16, 2013, 08:31:38 AM
One or two quotes does not  just suddenly negate years of gargling obamas balls.

To be fair the donkey has taken over soo..
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 16, 2013, 04:06:23 PM
Skip to comments.

Putin: Syrian Rebels Are Cannibals; Don't Arm Them
Arutz Sheva ^ | 17/6/13 | Elad Benari
Posted on June 16, 2013 6:27:35 PM EDT by Eleutheria5

The Syrian rebels are “cannibals” and should not be given arms, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Sunday.

"I think you will not deny that one does not really need to support the people who not only kill their enemies, but open up their bodies, eat their intestines, in front of the public and cameras," Putin said at a joint press conference in London with British Prime Minister David Cameron.

Putin was referring to video footage posted on the Internet last month of a rebel fighter eating the heart of a government soldier.

"Is it them who you want to supply with weapons?" he said, adding that this behavior does not correspond with international humanitarian norms.

Putin’s comments mark the first time that he has publicly responded to a decision by the United States last week to provide arms for the rebels fighting to oust Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad. Russia is an open supporter of Assad and has indicated that it plans to provide him with advanced missile systems.

The U.S. government announced on Thursday that the Syrian army used chemical weapons against rebel forces on multiple occasions, adding that America will increase the “scope and scale” of its assistance to rebels in Syria in response.

.....

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: 240 is Back on June 16, 2013, 04:28:40 PM
I think Obama would arm zombies if Mccain told him to.
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: andreisdaman on June 16, 2013, 06:02:02 PM
No one cares about Romney or McCain, you fucking c*nt. This is about the man in the white house calling the shots right now, you pathetic drone. The man you voted for.

It's fucking embarrassing watching you try to rationalize and deflect this. Twat.



You truly are incapable of criticizing Obama or talking about him from a mutually exclusive viewpoint. Pathetic.

please reflect on this statement my friend....you are calling yourself out
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: andreisdaman on June 16, 2013, 06:04:55 PM
Obama is the idiot who originally drew the line

you know whats weird about you???.....its's that you never take a position on anything having to do with policy....you wait to see what Obama does then you criticize him for it....you are the worse self-described "patriot" I have ever seen

you're so afraid that if you take a position beforehand that Obama will then in turn do what you have proposed then you would have nothing to criticize......

JESUS
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 16, 2013, 06:06:52 PM
you know whats weird about you???.....its's that you never take a position on anything having to do with policy....you wait to see what Obama does then you criticize him for it....you are the worse self-described "patriot" I have ever seen

you're so afraid that if you take a position beforehand that Obama will then in turn do what you have proposed then you would have nothing to criticize......

JESUS

Obama and rubio and mccain et al need to but out of this civil war
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Skip8282 on June 17, 2013, 05:31:56 PM
Obama is the last one on board that train too and delaying has almost certainly made our now inevitable involvement more challenging (i.e. going to cost more and be less successful).   






Last on board my ass.  Even with the SFR vote, there's still plenty of division in the Congress and plenty who don't want to arm these douchebags.

He backed himself into a corner.

Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Straw Man on June 17, 2013, 05:59:06 PM



Last on board my ass.  Even with the SFR vote, there's still plenty of division in the Congress and plenty who don't want to arm these douchebags.

He backed himself into a corner.



such as ?

certainly no shortage of prominent Repubs who have been championing this
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Skip8282 on June 17, 2013, 07:03:25 PM
Lynch, Paul, Udall, Murphy.  Hell even Corker - flip flop - so it's one of those even though he's pushing it NOW...gotta wonder what he'll do with the actual vote.

I sure haven't heard what I would consider strong support from Reid or Boehner.  Maybe, but I ain't heard it.

Hell yes there's prominent lawmakers pushing this shit.  And it's pathetic.  Haven't we learned a fucking thing?

Do you realize they are pushing for or should we say trying to force a 'democratic' system over there?


Barry can press equally hard to stay the fuck out.

Grow some balls.  Show some leadership.

Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Straw Man on June 17, 2013, 07:39:32 PM
Lynch, Paul, Udall, Murphy.  Hell even Corker - flip flop - so it's one of those even though he's pushing it NOW...gotta wonder what he'll do with the actual vote.

I sure haven't heard what I would consider strong support from Reid or Boehner.  Maybe, but I ain't heard it.

Hell yes there's prominent lawmakers pushing this shit.  And it's pathetic.  Haven't we learned a fucking thing?

Do you realize they are pushing for or should we say trying to force a 'democratic' system over there?


Barry can press equally hard to stay the fuck out.

Grow some balls.  Show some leadership.



Maybe he actually wants to get involved and just used the "red line" as his excuse so that he could say he wasn't caving to pressure by Republicans.

I think this is a "no win" situation for him (and us).   If we stay out we look like shit and if we get involved then everything becomes our fault

Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Fury on June 17, 2013, 07:42:03 PM
Maybe he actually wants to get involved and just used the "red line" as his excuse so that he could say he wasn't caving to pressure by Republicans.

I think this is a "no win" situation for him (and us).   If we stay out we look like shit and if we get involved then everything becomes our fault



How is it a no win for us? 80% of Americans want us to stay out.

He put himself into this position by making the red line comment. All he had to do was stay quiet and he wouldn't be forced to act now.


And for what it's worth, the UN initially reported that it was the REBELS who used the Sarin and the US rejected that claim. Obama's been itching to get involved in this beyond secretly shipping Al-Qaeda weapons for a while now.
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Straw Man on June 17, 2013, 07:48:12 PM
How is it a no win for us? 80% of Americans want us to stay out.

He put himself into this position by making the red line comment. All he had to do was stay quiet and he wouldn't be forced to act now.


And for what it's worth, the UN initially reported that it was the REBELS who used the Sarin and the US rejected that claim. Obama's been itching to get involved in this beyond secretly shipping Al-Qaeda weapons for a while now.

please post link for your 80% claim and then explain why that matters (try to keep in mind the 90% support for background checks for guns when you answer)

please also post link to claim about rebels using Sarin (which I think is very interesting if true - I have not heard this before)

it's a "no win" because if we sit out we'll be criticized for doing nothing while this guy slaughters his own citizens (whether it's fair or not) and if we get involved then we're going to get painted as being responsible for anything that happens

Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Fury on June 17, 2013, 07:58:31 PM
please post link for your 80% claim and then explain why that matters (try to keep in mind the 90% support for background checks for guns when you answer)

please also post link to claim about rebels using Sarin (which I think is very interesting if true - I have not heard this before)

it's a "no win" because if we sit out we'll be criticized for doing nothing while this guy slaughters his own citizens (whether it's fair or not) and if we get involved then we're going to get painted as being responsible for anything that happens



So what you're saying is that polls don't matter. Thanks for proving my point on the background check issue, dipshit. As for the poll, go find it yourself, you lazy fuck.

But the horror!!!!!! We'll be criticized for sitting it out while he slaughters his own citizens. Oh no!!!!! You apparently think America is the world police.  ::)

Saddam Hussein slaughtered his own citizens, too. Thanks for admitting that you supported George W Bush's invasion of Iraq, also.
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Straw Man on June 17, 2013, 08:01:26 PM
So what you're saying is that polls don't matter. Thanks for proving my point on the background check issue, dipshit. As for the poll, go find it yourself, you lazy fuck.

But the horror!!!!!! We'll be criticized for sitting it out while he slaughters his own citizens. Oh no!!!!! You apparently think America is the world police.  ::)

Saddam Hussein slaughtered his own citizens, too. Thanks for admitting that you supported George W Bush's invasion of Iraq, also.

I'm amazed that you were able to do one single post without engaging in a personal attack

that's got to be a record for you

post your links or I'm done wasting my time with you
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Fury on June 17, 2013, 08:13:54 PM
I'm amazed that you were able to do one single post without engaging in a personal attack

that's got to be a record for you

post your links or I'm done wasting my time with you

I couldn't care less. Get the fuck out of my thread then. You continue to be under the impression that I (or anyone else, for that matter) give a fuck about your opinion on here.

Protip: no one does.
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 17, 2013, 08:28:52 PM
Someone explain why we're really arming the rebels?  What's the deal?

???


I can't imagine any decent, moral, logical human being supporting something so despicable.  What's the true motivation?  ???
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 17, 2013, 08:30:58 PM
Someone explain why we're really arming the rebels?  What's the deal?

???


I can't imagine any decent, moral, logical human being supporting something so despicable.  What's the true motivation?  ???

Simpe - Obama is trying to create a radical islamist whabbist caliphate run by SA across the ME.
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Fury on June 17, 2013, 08:31:35 PM
Someone explain why we're really arming the rebels?  What's the deal?

???


I can't imagine any decent, moral, logical human being supporting something so despicable.  What's the true motivation?  ???

The Sunni Arab oil states have quite a lot of influence over us. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and co. have been pushing for this for nearly 2 years now.
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 17, 2013, 08:32:56 PM
The Sunni Arab oil states have quite a lot of influence over us. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and co. have been pushing for this for nearly 2 years now.

I know that, so is al-Assad not playing ball the way they want him to or something? ???
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Fury on June 17, 2013, 08:40:43 PM
I know that, so is al-Assad not playing ball the way they want him to or something? ???

Al-Assad is an Alawite, which is an off-shoot of Shia Islam and considered heretical by the Wahhabis and the rest of the Sunni world. They're kuffars and there are many videos showing Syrian rebels indicating that kuffars are apostates who are to be killed.

At the end of the day this war boils down to the same thing these morons have been killing each other over for 1500 years now - Sunni vs Shiite. You have the Sunni Arab states on one side and the Shiites (Iran, Syria, Hezbollah) on the other. Sunnis and Shiites hate each other as much as, if not more than, they hate Jews/Christians.

Just look up some of the things the Sunni clerics and rebels have been saying about Hezbollah and the Assad regime / Shiites. This war has devolved into a completely sectarian conflict.


Sunni Al-Qaeda versus Shiite Hezbollah. We couldn't ask for more so I don't understand why Obama insists on sticking his nose in.
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 17, 2013, 08:43:05 PM
Al-Assad is an Alawite, which is an off-shoot of Shia Islam and considered heretical by the Wahhabis and the rest of the Sunni world. They're kuffars and there are many videos showing Syrian rebels indicating that kuffars are apostates who are to be killed.

At the end of the day this war boils down to the same thing these morons have been killing each other over for 1500 years now - Sunni vs Shiite. You have the Sunni Arab states on one side and the Shiites (Iran, Syria, Hezbollah) on the other. Sunnis and Shiites hate each other as much as, if not more than, they hate Jews/Christians.

Just look up some of the things the Sunni clerics and rebels have been saying about Hezbollah and the Assad regime / Shiites. This war has devolved into a completely sectarian conflict.


Sunni Al-Qaeda versus Shiite Hezbollah. We couldn't ask for more so I don't understand why Obama insists on sticking his nose in.

Unbelievable, this makes our involvement even worse.

Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Fury on June 17, 2013, 08:50:04 PM
Unbelievable, this makes our involvement even worse.



There are reports that last week Al-Nusra massacred 60+ Shiites (men, women and children) in a town they had control over as revenge for having been defeated in the battle for Qusayr. That's a pretty good indication of what this war has devolved into. It's only going to get worse as it spreads into Lebanon and elsewhere.



For another example:

Syria: Sunni Rebels From Al-Nusra Front Blow Up Shiite Mosque

AMMAN, Jordan (AP) — Sunni extremists blew up a Shiite mosque in a village in eastern Syria stormed by rebels earlier this week, another sign of the growing sectarian hatred in the country’s civil war, activists said on Sunday.

They said al-Qaeda’s affiliate in Syria carried out the destruction. It showed the determination of extremists to drive Shiites out of the village of Hatla in the Deir el-Zour region near Iraq. Last week rebels battled pro-regime militiamen there, killing more than 60 Shiite fighters and civilians, according to activists.

In Lebanon, gunmen deployed in the streets of the northeast and set up roadblocks in protest following the killing of four Lebanese Shiite men in an ambush, security officials said today.

The security officials, speaking on condition of anonymity in line with regulations, said the four were found dead in the Wadi Rafeq area between Ras Baalbek and al-Qaa near the border with Syria.

They said the men were from the powerful Jaafar and Amhaz clans, triggering fears of retaliation.

It was not immediately clear how they were killed or what the motive was, but today’s ambush is believed to be related to sectarian tensions related to the Syrian civil war.

Tensions between Sunnis and Shiites in Lebanon increased after the Shiite Iranian-backed Hezbollah openly joined the fight in Syria on the side of President Bashar Assad.

http://news.yahoo.com/syria-sunni-extremists-blow-shiite-mosque-110200570.html



One of Shia Islam's holiest shrines is in Syria and is currently being guarded by Hezbollah. If that were to go down it would be akin to when Al-Qaeda blew up those shrines in Iraq and all hell broke loose. Shit would completely hit the fan.
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: andreisdaman on June 17, 2013, 09:23:21 PM
I couldn't care less. Get the fuck out of my thread then. You continue to be under the impression that I (or anyone else, for that matter) give a fuck about your opinion on here.

Protip: no one does.

Unfortunately this is the problem with you that I pointed out years ago..you don't care about anyone's opinion and you never admit when you are wrong about anything or concede that someone else might have a point....which Is why I have always said that explaining things to you or showing evidence to the contrary is pointless...

now go ahead and call me a twat and puta like always
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Skip8282 on June 18, 2013, 04:27:30 PM
Someone explain why we're really arming the rebels?  What's the deal?

???


I can't imagine any decent, moral, logical human being supporting something so despicable.  What's the true motivation?  ???




In addition to the destabilization that Fury noted, they are 'presumably' worried about Assad chemical weapons falling into the wrong hands, Syria becoming a hot bed for extremists, interfering with Iran helping Assad, and pushing a 'democratic state'.


All, IMO, a bunch of non-sense.

Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Skip8282 on June 18, 2013, 04:29:38 PM
Unfortunately this is the problem with you that I pointed out years ago..you don't care about anyone's opinion and you never admit when you are wrong about anything or concede that someone else might have a point....which Is why I have always said that explaining things to you or showing evidence to the contrary is pointless...

now go ahead and call me a twat and puta like always




Hey Twat,


Nice try, typical fail.

You NEVER back up your bullshit.

NEVER.

Every time you're called out on your bullshit, you run like a bitch.

EVERY TIME.

Want somebody to concede something?  Try arguing with facts.  Your word is not gospel and it's not like anybody asks you to put up academic journals.

Understand?  Puta.
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Straw Man on June 18, 2013, 04:43:45 PM
I couldn't care less. Get the fuck out of my thread then. You continue to be under the impression that I (or anyone else, for that matter) give a fuck about your opinion on here.

Protip: no one does.

LOL @ Fairy thinking he owns a thread

I guess since you live with your parents and probably drive your parents car you need to feel you own something

If you're going to make claims then try posting links otherwise I will assume you just made them up which is your usual MO
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: andreisdaman on June 19, 2013, 12:25:35 AM



Hey Twat,


Nice try, typical fail.

You NEVER back up your bullshit.

NEVER.

Every time you're called out on your bullshit, you run like a bitch.

EVERY TIME.

Want somebody to concede something?  Try arguing with facts.  Your word is not gospel and it's not like anybody asks you to put up academic journals.

Understand?  Puta.

you're no genius yourself , Gloria.....I didn't know fairy needed an attack dog......you go out of your way to pick fights with me.....are you an attention whore.....or just a whore?
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: andreisdaman on June 19, 2013, 12:28:03 AM
Oh no! The 46-year-old shut-in stalker thinks I made something up. Whatever will I do knowing one of the more intellectually-challenged people on this board think I made something up?

Fucking retard, haha.

Can't believe you used this phrase to describe someone other than yourself, horseface.
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Fury on June 19, 2013, 05:02:40 AM
Can't believe you used this phrase to describe someone other than yourself, horseface.


You're 50-years-old and still working on your first degree.  :-X
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 19, 2013, 05:05:32 AM
its amazing how leftists almost always make excuses for radical muslims
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 19, 2013, 05:13:40 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/19/us-syria-rebels-islamists-specialreport-idUSBRE95I0BC20130619


A lot of details
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Skip8282 on June 20, 2013, 03:58:49 PM
you're no genius yourself , Gloria.....I didn't know fairy needed an attack dog......you go out of your way to pick fights with me.....are you an attention whore.....or just a whore?



Translation = still can't back up your bullshit.

Keep trying.

Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 21, 2013, 08:59:29 AM
Syria's Rebels Received New Arms, Commander Confirms


06/21/13 08:26 AM ET EDT AP


 

BEIRUT -- The commander of Syria's rebels confirms they have received new weapons, giving his forces more power in battles against government troops and Hezbollah fighters from Lebanon.

Gen. Salim Idris refused to say in an interview with Al-Jazeera TV Friday where the weapons came from.

This month U.S. officials said President Barack Obama has authorized sending weapons to Syrian rebels for the first time. Gulf states have long been funneling weapons to the rebels.

While refusing to disclose the sources, he said, "I would like to thank the brothers and the friends whom I don't want to name," he said.

Pressed to disclose whether the weapons came from the U.S., Idris said, "We are waiting, and we urge them to hurry up in supplying us with weapons and ammunition."
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: andreisdaman on June 21, 2013, 10:46:18 PM


Translation = still can't back up your bullshit.

Keep trying.



I haven't seen many footnotes or references from you either genius
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: 24KT on June 22, 2013, 07:42:55 PM
please post link for your 80% claim and then explain why that matters (try to keep in mind the 90% support for background checks for guns when you answer)

please also post link to claim about rebels using Sarin (which I think is very interesting if true - I have not heard this before)

it's a "no win" because if we sit out we'll be criticized for doing nothing while this guy slaughters his own citizens (whether it's fair or not) and if we get involved then we're going to get painted as being responsible for anything that happens


That's what happens in a civil war, ...countrymen kill countrymen.
The difference here is WHO was it that encouraged the rebels (terrorists by definition) to take up arms against the legitimate government in the first place?

Isn't your country broke enough as it is?

You can't find money for meat inspectors, or proper border security, ...but you've got the money to arm cannibal terrorists?  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: George Whorewell on June 22, 2013, 09:08:14 PM
That's what happens in a civil war, ...countrymen kill countrymen.
The difference here is WHO was it that encouraged the rebels (terrorists by definition) to take up arms against the legitimate government in the first place?

Isn't your country broke enough as it is?

You can't find money for meat inspectors, or proper border security, ...but you've got the money to arm cannibal terrorists?  ::)  ::)

Hell hath frozen over. Jag is 110% correct about something.

Straw, you may want to consider conversion to a third party or something. You are officially on the fringe.
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Straw Man on June 23, 2013, 04:07:14 PM
Hell hath frozen over. Jag is 110% correct about something.

Straw, you may want to consider conversion to a third party or something. You are officially on the fringe.

what is she right about

who does she or you think encouraged the rebels to take up arms?
do you or she think somehow everything was perfectly stable and somehow the US or Western influence was the catalyst for this situation

btw - I don't agree with the Dems (or Repubs) on all issues and would be happy to see a few or many more political parties
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: whork on June 24, 2013, 11:54:07 AM
That's what happens in a civil war, ...countrymen kill countrymen.
The difference here is WHO was it that encouraged the rebels (terrorists by definition) to take up arms against the legitimate government in the first place?

Isn't your country broke enough as it is?

You can't find money for meat inspectors, or proper border security, ...but you've got the money to arm cannibal terrorists?  ::)  ::)


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Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Skip8282 on June 24, 2013, 05:01:42 PM
I haven't seen many footnotes or references from you either genius


Because you can't read.  Feel free to show me when I get called out that either don't back up my shit or admit when I'm wrong.  Or is this yet another bullshit claim from you that you'll run from?

Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 24, 2013, 07:02:37 PM
http://beforeitsnews.com/middle-east/2013/06/horrifying-picture-child-chained-up-forced-to-watch-parents-executed-by-obama-backed-syrian-rebels-2452386.html?utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fb4in.info%2Fh94s&utm_medium=facebook-post&utm_source=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fl.php%3Fu%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fb4in.info%252Fh94s%26h%3DPAQH6gC2n%26s%3D1&utm_content=awesm-fbshare-small&utm_campaign=

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Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Teutonic Knight on June 24, 2013, 07:27:46 PM
What about well documented "Cannibalism in Stalingrad during WW2" Mr.Putin  ???
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Teutonic Knight on June 24, 2013, 07:33:23 PM
Logic says, because of Hezbollah involvement in Syria's war Israel must
get in this conflict too, and already is  ;)
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: andreisdaman on June 24, 2013, 08:09:07 PM

Because you can't read.  Feel free to show me when I get called out that either don't back up my shit or admit when I'm wrong.  Or is this yet another bullshit claim from you that you'll run from?



Ive been here for years....I never run from threads.....why should I...its not like you're my intellectual equal
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 24, 2013, 08:33:39 PM
Ive been here for years....I never run from threads.....why should I...its not like you're my intellectual equal


LMFAO  - ypou still crying im tears over obamas actions in Egypt moron?
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: andreisdaman on June 25, 2013, 07:16:20 AM

LMFAO  - ypou still crying im tears over obamas actions in Egypt moron?

whatever action he takes would be wrong in your opinion anyway..
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 25, 2013, 07:18:19 AM
whatever action he takes would be wrong in your opinion anyway..

The actions he has taken have proven wrong as an objective fact
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: andreisdaman on June 25, 2013, 07:28:13 AM
The actions he has taken have proven wrong as an objective fact

what should he have done?..you never have an opinion...just criticism after the fact
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 25, 2013, 07:30:08 AM
what should he have done?..you never have an opinion...just criticism after the fact

Stay out of it!  Mubarack was better than the radical islamists and so is Assad who Hillary called "A Reformer"
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: andreisdaman on June 25, 2013, 08:13:03 AM
Stay out of it!  Mubarack was better than the radical islamists and so is Assad who Hillary called "A Reformer"

I agree with that but Mubarak fucked himself out of the job
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 25, 2013, 11:49:14 AM
Obama’s Libyan War Feeds Guns into Al Qaeda’s Syrian War
FrontPage Magazine ^  | June 24, 2013 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2013 7:52:12 AM by SJackson

- FrontPage Magazine - http://frontpagemag.com -



Obama’s Libyan War Feeds Guns into Al Qaeda’s Syrian War

Posted By Daniel Greenfield On June 24, 2013 @ 8:17 pm In The Point | No Comments




As Obama rushes to dive into a second war, the outcome of his first disastrous war has already badly destabilized the region. And is feeding weapons into his second war.

Obama’s attack on Gaddafi spread Libyan weapons even farther afield and with more devastating consequences than Gaddafi was ever able to do on his own.


Evidence gathered in Syria, along with flight-control data and interviews with militia members, smugglers, rebels, analysts and officials in several countries, offers a profile of a complex and active multinational effort, financed largely by Qatar, to transport arms from Libya to Syria’s opposition fighters. Libya’s own former fighters, who sympathize with Syria’s rebels, have been eager collaborators…

Extremist fighters, some of them aligned with Al Qaeda, have the money to buy the newly arrived stock, and many rebels are willing to sell.

And why do the rebels have so much money? Because they have some really wealthy sugar daddies. Or oil daddies.


… Those weapons, which slipped from state custody as Colonel Qaddafi’s people rose against him in 2011, are sent on ships or Qatar Emiri Air Force flights to a network of intelligence agencies and Syrian opposition leaders in Turkey…

Qatari C-17 cargo aircraft have made at least three stops in Libya this year — including flights from Mitiga airport in Tripoli on Jan. 15 and Feb. 1, and another that departed Benghazi on April 16, according to flight data provided by an aviation official in the region. The planes returned to Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar. The cargo was then flown to Ankara, Turkey, along with other weapons and equipment that the Qataris had been gathering for the rebels, officials and rebels said.

And Qatar has been playing this game for a while. One front is Al Jazeera. The other is Al Kaboom.


One former senior Obama administration familiar with the transfers said the Qatari government built relationships with Libyan militias in 2011, when, according to the report of a United Nations Panel of Experts, it shipped in weapons to rebel forces there in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973.

As a result, the Qataris can draw on their influence with Libya’s militias to support their current beneficiaries in Syria. “It’s not that complicated,” the former official said. “We’re watching it. The Libyans have an amazing amount of stuff.”

But don’t worry. Obama Inc’s crack security establishment is on it. And by on it, I mean in on it.


The movements from Libya complement the airlift that has variously used Saudi, Jordanian and Qatari military cargo planes to funnel military equipment and weapons, including from Croatia, to the outgunned rebels. On Friday, Syrian opposition officials said the rebels had received a new shipment of anti-tank weapons and other arms, although they give varying accounts of the sources of the recently received arms. The Central Intelligence Agency has already played at least a supporting role, the officials say.

But what could possibly go wrong?


Last week the Obama administration announced that it had evidence that Mr. Assad’s military had used sarin nerve agent in multiple attacks, and that the United States would begin providing military aid to the rebels, including shipments of small arms.

In doing so, the United States could soon be openly feeding the same distribution network, just as it has received weapons from other sources.
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Skip8282 on June 25, 2013, 04:50:37 PM
Ive been here for years....I never run from threads.....why should I...its not like you're my intellectual equal




100% agree, I'm your intellectual superior, not your equal....not even close.



So, once again you made a dipshit claim.

Once again, I've called you out on it.

And, once again, you've failed to back it up as usual.


Go back to crying like a bitch that nobody concedes anything to you.  ::)
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: andreisdaman on June 25, 2013, 11:30:11 PM



100% agree, I'm your intellectual superior, not your equal....not even close.



So, once again you made a dipshit claim.

Once again, I've called you out on it.

And, once again, you've failed to back it up as usual.


Go back to crying like a bitch that nobody concedes anything to you.  ::)


no one's crying but you, Meltdown King ::)
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 26, 2013, 02:56:36 PM

no one's crying but you, Meltdown King ::)

Hey F you asshole - this is who your gay mocha hero is arming

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/06/obama-backed-syrian-jihadists-behead-people-in-front-of-large-cheering-crowd.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook



SICK!   F OBAMA!
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Skip8282 on June 26, 2013, 06:12:03 PM

no one's crying but you, Meltdown King ::)



Still dodging pussy.

Back up your claim like a fucking man.

Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: tu_holmes on June 26, 2013, 06:49:09 PM
Stay out of it!  Mubarack was better than the radical islamists and so is Assad who Hillary called "A Reformer"

Truth.




100% agree, I'm your intellectual superior, not your equal....not even close.



So, once again you made a dipshit claim.

Once again, I've called you out on it.

And, once again, you've failed to back it up as usual.


Go back to crying like a bitch that nobody concedes anything to you.  ::)

Damn... Woah.

(http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i57/5/8/18/frabz-WHOA-6848eb.jpg)
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Fury on June 26, 2013, 07:00:32 PM
Let's not forget the topic of this thread: Obama has allied us with Al-Qaeda and is arming the same people we've been fighting for the last decade.

Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Skip8282 on June 26, 2013, 07:07:13 PM
Let's not forget the topic of this thread: Obama has allied us with Al-Qaeda and is arming the same people we've been fighting for the last decade.





Failed leadership, IMO.

He's got pressure from the Congressional tards along with the peripheral countries sweating him.

He ought to just stand up to him and let this shit ride.  Hell, they all hate us and right now they're killing each other.  Let it be.

Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: andreisdaman on June 26, 2013, 08:30:28 PM


Still dodging pussy.

Back up your claim like a fucking man.



I guess youre the "pussy" that I'm dodging?
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: andreisdaman on June 26, 2013, 08:31:26 PM
Hahaha, he'll never back it up. That clown loves making bullshit claims and then running from threads when challenged on them.

run from you??????????????????????????....... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 7 of the 9 main fighting groups in Syria are Islamists
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 27, 2013, 10:46:19 AM
(http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/20130518_gdc631-550x538.png)

Note: One of the non-Islamist groups is dedicated solely to fighting in the Kurdish areas in north Syria.



Great work, Obama!!!!  ::)

Bump for the Obama apologists.